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Why are people still falling for the Loomis meme in 2016? Loomis books are objectively boring and useless. Want to learn fundamentals? Get the Scott Robertson and Feng Zhu Gnomon dvds. Want to learn to construct the figure? Get the Michael Hampton book and subscribe to Proko. Want to improve your figure drawing? George Bridgman and Burne Hogarth. Want to broaden your knowledge of anatomy? Glenn Vilppu and Scott Eaton's videos. There is literally not a single reason to be reading Loomis in the year of our lord 2016.
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>>2380534
Loomis is supposed to be a simple introduction for all the topics he covers. If you think it would be wise for a beginner to to jump right in to bridgman and hogarth, then you've never read either of them
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>>2380553
Notice how the order of recommendations went from fundamentals to basic construction, to figure drawing. Bridgman and Hogarth are not what I recommended for fundamentals, so who didn't read what?
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>>2380534

> Get the Scott Robertson and Feng Zhu Gnomon dvds

Which ones?
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>>2380571
I said "introduction of all the topics he covers" i.e. simple intro to figure drawing as opposed to bridgman's books which are designed for somebody with decent knowledge of basic figure drawing. Also 'fundamental' doesn't mean 'simple', you can have simple fundamentals, and advanced fundamentals on a variety of topics.
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FWAP alone literally smokes all of those meme authors and their books up like a fat blunt and dumps their ashes in the trash where they belong, stay mad nigga
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>>2380643
b8
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This board jacks off to drawing books way too much in general
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>drawing on the right side of the brain
>all this bullshit talk
>2016
>finally get to the lesson
>oh BTW you'll need pen, pencil, eraser, some plastic to make a view finder, rubberband and a ruler
>2016
Is there a modern version? I mean who the fuck has these in their house? And that view finder? Holy shit that's impossible to make.

By "is there a modern version" I mean is there one that the only tools you need is a wacom tablet? Because I just got a tablet and I've been practicing it after not having used a pencil to write for a decade. (I was in a coma)
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>>2380700

how was the coma would you recommend one
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>>2380700
> was in a coma for a decade.
> starts shitposting by the time he wakes up.

Seriously, anon?
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>>2380704
I dunno man, when you're in a coma you don't really feel anything since you're basically a veggie.

>>2380710
I'm waiting for a call back from a job, chill.
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>>2380690
Bridgman objectively teaches less about figure drawing and anatomy than Loomis does, the people asserting that he's some kind of authority on these subjects despite his drawings more often than not being incomplete and ill-conceived do so only because it makes them feel more 'advanced' than they really are. 'well these drawings sure are fuckin' ridiculous but if I say anything about it other people will ridicule me.'.

Bridgman is the Emperor with no clothes and three jointed thumbs.
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>>2380700
keys to drawing lol
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>>2380710
A real hero.
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>>2380726
>Bridgman objectively teaches less about figure drawing and anatomy than Loomis
What
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> Want to learn fundamentals? Get the Scott Robertson and Feng Zhu Gnomon dvds.

but i dont want to draw cars and spaceships
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>>2380739
You heard the man. "Objectively"
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>>2380748
While I don't agree with the overall statement, it's no exaggeration to say that 1 of Loomis' worst drawings is worth 10 of Bridgman's best.
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I've studied every source you've listed. Loomis' name might have devolved into a meme over the years, but the joke here is that it's also one of the most legitimate resources available for learning your stuff. There is no instructor I've learned more from or prefer to revist more often. I bought his books back when they were practically impossible to find, used them until the spines separated and the pages fell out, then continued to use them purely out of preference for his methods and explanatory style.
I saw your opening image in the 'what I read' topic in lit, and was embarrassed that the only art book the guys there would see posted was categorized by someone who, it felt, must not have had a very rich background in the business.
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>>2380700
Dude what?
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>>2380700
Just get pic related, I wish I had found it when I was starting
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>>2380944
Guess I'll pirate it now that it was mentioned twice. Thanks.
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>>2380700
I know this isn't really the best place or time, but can you tell us what happened? You don't have to if you don't want to. Also Keys to Drawing is probably better than Loomis. It's what I used.
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>>2380700
>drawing on the right side of the brain
Don't even get me started on this meme book.
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>>2380943
You are never going to make it, bro. Bridgman is being studied at any reputable atelier in the world. The artist who made those rendered anatomy studies almost certainly studied Bridgman.
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>>2380959
>Also Keys to Drawing is probably better than Loomis. It's what I used.

You probably suck ass though.
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>>2380534
Post your work
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>>2381273
Yeah, but I haven't been drawing for that long, I have a lot more to improve on.
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>>2380710

Incredible
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>>2381332
To say "xy is probably better than Loomis because it's what I used" sounds fairly arrogant. Just saying. The implication being that you are so good, the fact that you learnt from book xy is proof enough that it is better than Loomis.
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>>2381346
Sorry for sounding arrogant, just saying as someone who's been trying to get good, in my opinion Keys to Drawing is superior.
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if i'm never gonna get good because i'm trash and don't practice enough what book should i get
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>>2381377
A book on the best ways to commit suicide.
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>>2381326
no u

>>2381346
I used a bunch of other books than Loomis because his books are boring and I could never finish them. Looking back I regret nothing.

>>2381377
Just subscribe to proko and get the drawing perspective basics with Scott Robertson. It's easier to learn to draw when you see some one else drawing, rather than making it up yourself based from looking at a book. For figure drawing get Michael Hampton's book. You might also want to watch Vilppu's videos but they might be too advanced if you're a complete scrub, idk.
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draw from life if you want to improve your figures

draw from life if you want to learn and broaden your knowledge of anatomy

draw from life

just draw from life
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>>2380943
I don't think you understand the point of constructive anatomy or rendering.

You're not very deep into this hobby yet are you friend?
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>>2380700
>Haven't used a pencil in a decade
>Painting on a meme device

Pick up a fucking brush, cut a square in some paper and lrn2measure.
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>>2380534
>Reading Fun With a 'Pencil'
>Expecting the wet-on-wet painting techniques of venerable artistic television personality Bob Ross

I think I see why you may have been a little disappointed in the book.

That said, getting someone to draw mr. Potato Head from different directions sounds like an interesting way to teach construction, forms and so on. Coming to understand the simple and stylized - yet recognizable - shapes of the potato man would aid the beginner in understanding the more complex forms of the human bean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qQQTkIUwH0
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