>>2372234 I think OP is asking for Methods. Since there's many ways to approach anatomy, there's a lot of methods/techniques to choose from. Personally, I'd like to know the method used in OPs image. Looks interesting.
>>2372003 I like those repetition challenges. I think they help.
I saw that draw 1000 challenge posted on /ic/ I knew I wasn't going to make 1000 drawings, but it still gave me an idea of what I could do, lately drawing eyes/heads has been bothering me. So I try to draw the eyes+eyesocket+nose+brow+side of head. As I draw them I invent my own, make cartoon versions, realistic, different angles, then draw my own eyes as a benchmark and note patterns, I carry it over and over and find new things. Now some of the stuff I drew just last week looks reallllly poor, in comparison.
I only regret I'm not drawing as frequently as I should be. I'm also misguided on what to work on. What direction to go in. I've also become unfamiliar with drawing on the computer. I practically dread it. Just talking aloud, my own issues.
OP here, just wondering what other methods are used in order to find anatomy. Currently doing proko mannequins, and I like doing them, but I was wondering if there were any other methods like that? It'd be neat to explode other techniques that others here find fun/interesting.
As for the image used at the beginning, not sure what method he's using, but judging from the outlines, it's obvious what landmarks he's going for. Copying just that, his method seems really cool.
>>2373023 The 1000 challenge is what got me to make this topic.
>>2373331 Study form and basic shapes. Then practice a little bit a gesture, then landmarks, some basic anatomy, and learning how to construct a human figure. THEN, attempt the image OP posted 1,000 times, and hopefully your 1,000th one will look somewhat close to what is posted.
>>2373344 Well, judging from OP's image, that's my guess on the road map to approach said image. The inside faded lines look like there connecting to specific landmarks and gesture the outline of the muscles. Then, he'd contour over to create the skin. The contour he's using is very related to that of Vilppu's method, but more simplified.
The more you now anatomy, the easier it is to find these contour lines and landmarks. Gestures will help in trying to simplify these lines.
Copying OP's image is something that can be done relatively easily. If you had a decent amount of experience and some patience you'd be able to replicate that stuff relatively quickly. It's having the understanding of anatomy to be able to create something like OP's image yourself that's the problem. Take for example the various studies of Bridgman we saw on this board with that Franzetta challenge. People were doing quite well at them, but it's highly unlikely they'd be able to draw like Bridgman without copying something directly from the book, because there's far more to the process.
I think "draw the OP image 1000 times" is really, really bad advice. After the third or fourth go you'd be better off studying something else.
>>2373404 You misunderstood the post. The purpose of studying the things before "THEN" was so get an understand of what OP's image was going for. Once you have that understanding, mimicking this technique won't hurt you simply because you know what the person is trying to draw in the image.
>>2372496 This doesn't work for everyone. I could never draw figures as boxes, it made things a lot harder to grasp for me. I found it easier to draw gestures as they were instead, learning the reason the body makes those shapes and forms from the underlying structures, etc.
OP, try the boxes and cylinders if you haven't already but don't be discouraged if it doesn't seem to help because for me it made things worse and harder to visualize.
>>2373023 I've just been doing gesture drawings for that, sometimes focusing only on the body part i'm having trouble with rather than the whole figure, and I've amassed 60 drawings in two days, some better than others. Find a good site for gesture, even better if you can find one that can do specific body parts (or at least a setting for hands, heads, or body whcih I've found before,. Dunno the site now). I set it for the longest setting it had (6 hours) and just drew until my hand felt like it was going to fall off for the past two days. I take small breaks between and have done a couple of doodles between too and already see a huge difference in my understanding of the form which is encouraging.
>>2372003 learn all of the muscles from ecorches or medical books/website. then start by drawing poses from life in ecorché without looking at the ref, just try to replicate it with imagination and your previously acquired knowledge. and then you can draw from life to see how the skin reacts to the muscles under it, the bumps, the holes, the foldings etc.
Thinking of becoming Krenz Cushart's Patron to get his homework on anatomy. It looks really neat (pic related).
>>2377271 To be honest family, the best way I learned it was via Peter Han's exercise. Drawing random blobs and placing contour lines on them. However, be sure to make the blobs smooth, and make ones that Will challenge your mind. Make sure to make blobs that make you look at the blob for a good 45 seconds, thinking "how the fuck should I contour this?" and go on from there. Do like.... I dunno, 100 of them? This should train your eyes more to "see" form.
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