>"philosopher" is a positivist/atheist

>nah man I'm a nihilist nice try though

>>673030
>band has two drummers

>>673030
>""""""philosopher""""""" holds beliefs he could not possibly substantiate

>>673085
Melvins r gr8 tho

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>he's a "christian philosopher"

>>673030
What is this positivism boogieman that you are all afraid of?
You have to keep using ritual meme offerings to the gods (or perhaps more literally, your Christian God) to drive away the evil demons of positivism or something.

>>673030
>I don't like it when people hold beliefs different than my own

>>674787
/his/ hates empiricism and all related philosophies such as positivism and scientism because they're purportedly self-refuting.

>>674809
>purportedly
They are.
Positivist doctrines say that the only statements worth talking about are ones you can empirically and/or scientifically test. Positivists have notably failed to be able to put that statement through any sort of empirical and/or scientific testing.

>there's no such thing as consciousness
>the well-being of conscious creatures is what defines ethics

t. Sam Harris

>>674787
Didn't positivism get btfo by popper?

>>675170
If it's untrue, there's no reason to bother testing it.

If it's true, then you don't need to test it.

>>675170
Fuck off, and go actually read Quine.

>>673030
Atheism is the only defensible position in 2016.

>>675269
I thought Popper was the kind positivist?

>>675269
Not singlehandedly, Quine for example helped.

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>>675291
>caring about what autists who can't into beauty or faith have to say about the nature of reality

I shiggy, I diggy, I shiggy diggy doo

>>675308
>>caring about what autists who can't into beauty or faith have to say about the nature of reality
Christians have absolutely no experience with beauty, in even the most primitive sense.

God's shadow, God's shadow, you can't see past it. I've left the cave and seen God himself, and then said, "look at the sun, you aren't shit without me here".

>>675323
>implying true religion isn't leaving the cave of materialism, hedonism, and servility to our lower nature

Most Christians are as bad as fedoras, you're right, but no one sees Plato's Sun without coming away with a belief in what is beyond the human

>>675333
>but no one sees Plato's Sun without coming away with a belief in what is beyond the human
You're right, that's why Zoroaster saw the last man, the ubermensch, and other visions.

Except, beyond the human and the otherworldly are not one-in-the-same. You're probably confusing that.

>>675343
You mean Zarathustra? He wasn't supposed to reflect the beliefs of the historical Zoroaster.

That said, otherworldly or not, we're both talking about a state of being/consciousness that transcends the material

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>>673030
>He's a rationalist

>>675354
Zoroaster and Zarathustra are the same person.

>He wasn't supposed to reflect the beliefs of the historical Zoroaster.

No, but the historical account is that he actually spent 10 years in a cave.

>That said, otherworldly or not, we're both talking about a state of being/consciousness that transcends the material
Which you can find without God, Christianity or anything else. In fact, without God and Christianity you're destined to find a superior transcendence.

>>675381
Why are we arguing? We p much agree family

Positivist philosophy i.e. science, has so far been the most successful branch of philosophy in terms of allowing us to understand and manipulate the world. Nothing else even comes close.

Work on your bait a little harder next time.

>>675398
Nice bait

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>>675388
high-five senpai.

>>675398
How is positivism applied when doing science?

>>675408

Define for me real quick what you think positivism is.

>>675398
>Politics doesn't exist
>Civilization doesn't exist

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>Philosopher is an analytic utilitarian positivist Jew who only talks about issues relating to money

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>>675457
>my rigorous and definite understanding of human relations has no issues

>>675460
That's just called an economist.

>>675655
Then why did I just describe my philosophy professor?

>>675674

Because your philosophy professor is a closet economist

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>>675686
Have I been deceived by the American education system once again?

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>>673030
>"philosopher"
>doesn't even lift

>>674747
^yes

>>673030
"Philosopher" believes in any form of mysticism

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>>675291
>It's [current year]
You can't make this shit up.

By the way, what was the year atheism switched to being right?

Pic related because it's the face of 2016.