Judas comes to mind (if Gospels were real to begin with)
So does Brutus.
Nixon and Kissinger for ruining the '68 peace-talks through promising South Vietnam they'd get a better treaty once the Republicans had the white house
War drags on for 5 more years, eventually US and SV have to settle for a worse peace treaty than they would've got in '68
Jesus needed to die if mankind was to be redeemed. Judas played a vital role in that. His account of the Gospel asserts that Jesus told him to give away their location and Scorsese's film depicts him as the most loyal disciple and the only one who could be relied upon to do what was necessary.
Judas was Snape.
I think you mean "better" traitor.
The guy's a legend.
Can you explain why Sulla is a traitor? He was with the Republic.
You mean occupying rome? He did try to restore power to the senate and nix the tribunes and all afterwards. His purges were no joke and he set precedent for the triumvirate, but how is he a traitor?
Sulla was a badass, capturing jugurtha was an action movie. He was an optimate and didn't care about the roman people at all or something, maybe that's what you mean?
>legally elected Consul of the year, in and during his term of office, is stripped of his army by some fag
>a mentally handicapped troglodyte mongrel on a Philippine CD Burning Forum almost 2100 years later has the audacity to call him a traitor
>didn't care about the Roman people
Yep, trying to give them good government, actually managing and investing in the provinces instead of raping them for taxes like the Gracchi instituted, and refusing the continue economically unsustainable institutions sure isn't careful and caring.
>His purges were no joke
>How was he a traitor
He created the first coup in the Roman republic. He set the precedent that destroyed it, and there was no reason to do this at all. He should have just stepped down. I don't see how you could argue that he wasn't a traitor.
At least all of Toronto got a good laugh out of it f.am
I used to live in the Greater Toronto Area. I found it both hilarious and horrifying that he was the mayor.
I figured if I lived in Toronto proper I would have voted for him out of amusement, then promptly moved somewhere with a mayor who could keep his Mandatory Canadian Crack addiction a secret like the rest of the political fat cats in this country.
Edgy. Please explain how declaring independence for your colony from the country that owns and exploits it is treason.
Maybe if the colonists had a stake in British government to begin with it could be considered treason, but they didn't.
The American colonists loved the expensive wars against the injuns and French that won them all that territory and protection. However, the raising of taxes on certain luxury goods in order to pay off the considerable debt those wars incurred was enough to awaken their inner "patriot".
When Rome turned on him and its own legally elected government, what choice did he have but to turn on Rome?
The continued and unprecedented virility of the Roman state and military was in part a direct result of its constitution and the mos maiorum. Any tampering with this was retarded beyond all relief. Especially when it gave command of the army that was supposed to defeat Mithridates the Great, slaughterer of over 100,000 Roman and Italian men, women, and children throughout Greece and the East, to a senile old man over 70 years of age who had already suffered two strokes.
Marius was the fucking traitor; Sulla was a glorious hero of the republic who restored order then stepped down. Fucking disgusting populares deserve to be drowned in the fucking Tiber.
We did that when i was that age. We visited a protestant church, an eastern orthodox church, a buddhist temple and a mosque.
The buddhist were cool. They had a shit ton of food and soda. They knew how to convince the kids.
Franklin in particular convinced Parliament that the unrest in the colonies was nothing serious and should pay it no mind despite the fact that Parliament was more than willing to resolve most of the grievances and complaints of the colonists.
Winston "The Navy Needs Its Glory Too" Churchill.
Winston "Who Cares, Its Only Colonial Troops" Churchill.
Winston "Keep Sending Ships To Death To Conceal That We Have The Code" Churchill.
Half the land seizures of native lands were to raise cash to pay of the rebellion because once they got free they realised oh shit we do need taxes
But if they had imposed the needed taxes they would have had another war of independent independence so they paid it off by stealing land and then selling it
So do Puerto Rico or Honduras or all those American colonies have a stake in American politics? But if they wanted to be free you would be calling them militant terrorists
Look at the Americans in 19th century phillipines
That hypocrisy is why so many people laugh at clapistan
stop treating personal relations religiously
Am I a hypocrite for thinking that Quisling is the worst traitor in history, but that Pétain simply did what he had to do to save his country?