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Why, and how, did Anarchists lose the Spanish Civil War? They had early successes, but lost a major series of battles after that, only to be finally crushed by Franco.
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>>575357
Franco had allies with significant material. The Republicans' only ally was the USSR which was at too great a distance to respond with ease, had to provide this support covertly, and naturally had its own problems.
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>if we seize the cattle itll look bad
Name one leader from that era who gave a damn about human life, let alone cattle.
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>>575401
>material
materiel
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>>575357
>They had early successes, but lost a major series of battles after that, only to be finally crushed
Basically a microcosm of anarchism in general. It's a philosophy and way of life that's only suited to the small scale. The larger the war, the worse off anarchists are, because of their very nature as anti-authoritarian.
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>>575406
You obviously didn't read the title of the comic, friend.
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>>575414
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asturian_miners%27_strike_of_1934
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>>575426
That Franco sounds like a harsh guy
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>>575401
>The Republicans' only ally was the USSR which was at too great a distance to respond with ease, had to provide this support covertly, and naturally had its own problems.
and they also refused to supply the anarchists and pressured the Republican government and Communist party to criminalize anarchist militias
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>>575401
>which was at too great a distance to respond with ease

The truth is Stalin didn't want to overstretch. He was already expecting a WW2 against Germany (or Britain and France). Stalin also didn't care much about international communism, his idea of international communism was the Soviet union slowly swallowing the world.
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>>575531
Never mind the 'great' solidarity that the anarchists had for the POUM.
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The fact of the matter is that the anarchists can't fight for shit, forever proving that a stateless society is pure jej.
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>>575553
they held pretty well for untrained, undersupplied militias fighting against a real army. They just couldn't handle their own allies attacking them too
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>>575574
>untrained, undersupplied militias
That kind of goes hand in hand with anarchism don't you think?
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>>575578
yes, and they fought well despite the disorganization inherent in that until their allies betrayed them
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>>575531
When the Republicans were clearly losing the war the USSR gave most of its backing to the Communist Party and groups that weren't ideologically opposed to Stalin/USSR, but the USSR continued to supply the Republic as a whole throughout the war. And you're thinking of Orlov.
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>>575627
>yes, and they fought well despite the disorganization inherent in that until their allies betrayed them
They also forced people to work and fight for them at gunpoint, a betrayal of the basis of Anarchists ideas
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>>575357
because they fought each other while fighting franco.
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>>575700
>a betrayal of the basis of Anarchists ideas
You might want to learn more about the history of class struggle anarchism before opening your septic arsehole in public.
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>>575739
>It's totally anarchists to create new power structures and force people to fight and work for us (at whatever pay we determine) because we're the good guys

Eat lead, commie. If you say "power structures are bad, guys, and we need to abolish them" then you don't get to keep them while fighting. Otherwise, you're admitting that they're good or at the very least useful, undermining your point.
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>>575752
>If you say "power structures are bad, guys, and we need to abolish them"

Class struggle anarchists rarely, if ever, say this and it isn't the central point of their ideology.

Thanks for playing.
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>>575357
Read "Homage to Catalonia" by Orwell. It's obviously biased, and it admits its bias, but it offers a nice interpretation of the war.
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>>575789
>the problem with fighting a war in Spain is that the Spanish are always late to everything, including a battle
>when watching artillery fire from a safe distance, it's difficult to not wish for it to hit its target, even when its target contains several dozens of your comrades, and your dinner
Orwell's little asides are the best part of that book
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>>575772
Whatever you say, Red
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>>575401
>The Republicans' only ally was the USSR
Yes and no. USSR did supply some arms and other goods, but there support was directed almost solely to the Stalinist factions that were in line with Comintern. That faction would, later in the war, turn their arms against the other factions in the Republic, which hastened defeat.
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>>575810
I like when he describes the Spanish police searching his room, and they don't look under the bed because his wife is in bed.
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>>575426
Looks like those commies got BTFO
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>>575991
They usually do, when they go up against people who can fight back
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>>575810
>>when watching artillery fire from a safe distance, it's difficult to not wish for it to hit its target, even when its target contains several dozens of your comrades, and your dinner

Orweill was based af
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>>576063
That or autistic as fuck.
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>>576064
thats not how you use the term autistic.
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>>576067
Right. Let me fix that for you
"thats not how you use the term autistic" said the Autistic person
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>>575357
>How did a bunch of undisciplined edgelords lose to an actual army backed by the Nazis

Gee I wonder
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>>575357
Commies backstabbed them
/thread
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>>575883
Nice comeback, arsewipe. Were's it from, "How to win a discussion without arguments" by the /pol/ collective?
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>>576071
Stop capitalizing in the middle of sentences.
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>>576252
I will Not stop doing That ever
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>>576216
> backed by the Nazis
Backed by the paragon of military adequacy that are the nazis. Who won every war they fought. FFS the only thing they did right was raise the scale of hit and run tactics, except they ran the other way.
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>>575357
t. Hemingway
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>>575789
Yeah, it was a fun read.
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>>575548
Nah, POUM and CNT/FAI were on relatively good terms. You're thinking of the PSUC.
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>>577616
Keep believing that, it is a good lie.
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>>575810
>that part where he can't bring himself to shoot an enemy soldier whose pants are falling down
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>>575357
As far as I've read, the anarchists had an excellent platoon level organization and morale (you fought with your pals and friends from the factory, and democratically elect the one that was more trusted to be your platoon leader), but lacked in communication, logistics and technology, not to mention the complete absence of a proper CoS. Their armored vehicles were repurposed trucks, depended on the communists (their ideological opposites) for aerial support an other resources, and barely could move. That's why you have them winning spectacularly at the beginning of the war, then getting stuck after trying to cross the lines towards Madrid. Not to mention infighting.
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