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When did the Old Frankish language disappear from what's now modern France?
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>>574313
About as soon as every Frank learned Latin.
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>>574313
>>574335

Didn't it pretty much turn into Dutch?
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Parisian
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>>574614
From Wiki:
>Between the 5th and 9th centuries, the languages spoken by the Salian Franks in Belgium and the Netherlands evolved into Old Dutch (Old Low Franconian), while in Picardy and Île-de-France it was eventually eclipsed by Old French as the dominant language.

Absolutely correct.
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>>574313
JUST
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>>574313
Was Frankish ever the dominant language of France or was it always just the elites?
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Because Frankish never became spoken by more than the Franks.
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Did Charlemagne speak French or did he speak Old Frankish? What was his first language?
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>>575257
His native language was Old High German.
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>>574614

>unlikey, Dutch is almost identical to German and Danish. At best, frankish may have modified the exsisting language.

>>574978
>Citing wikipedia

fuck off, scrub
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>>575509
>almost identical
To german as a west germanic language but hardly comparable to danish. Face it; Dutch evolved from Frankish
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>>575509
>frankish
Is a german dialect...
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Weren't they Gauls there anyway? What language did Gauls/French (as in the territory) Celts speak?

I realize France comes from Frank.
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Mediterranean France and the Rhone's trade networks were a quick sail to Rome, practically closer than Taranto and north eastern Italy. A further short land route to the Garonne and its tributaries and the Atlantic coast is accessible. Over the centuries latin filtered down through the upper classes to the peasants and slaves resulting in the romance Occitan language which seems to have more in common with Modern French than Germanic languages.

When the Franks took northern France, ambitious eyes started to look south at France's natural borders with the Alps and Pyrenees. Again the elite imposed their language except this time the motivation was purely diplomatic, nobles had to learn Latin if they wanted to get anywhere in life, the Franks were willing to ditch their savage barbaric primitive course Germanic roots in favor of sophisticated intelligent superior imperial Latin, kind of like the Mongols adopting Chinese culture.
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>>575263
Wouldn't it have been something more like low saxon or old dutch?
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>>577200
The Gauls spoke Gaulish. The Romans invaded, and eventually the Gauls came to speak a sort of vulgar Latin (local dialects of Gaulish+Latin). Then the Franks moved in, and added their germanic twist to the vulgar Latin, and this eventually became French.
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>>577317
No, it's recorded that he spoke Old High German. Why would a Frank who's most likely birthplace is Aachen in the modern day Rhineland-Palatinate even speak low saxon?
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>>577900
*whose
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>>575509
that's because they're all three germanic languages, retard
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