>>573419 Why do you think european culture would have died islam is not a monolith every region kept its old customs aside from a few which were too haram. There would just develop a new hybrid islamic French culture.
It saved a Christian Western European culture, so yes absolutely.
People shouldn't be so quick to say this battle wasn't a big deal. It's like they don't even know how important the Frankish kingdom was, or what Islam did to the Christian Middle East, Egypt, Anatolia, Greece, etc.
>>574053 Well, I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that you're of European descent, in which case supporting the Ummayads would be to betray your ancestor's struggle. If you are indeed Muslim, or just of non-European descent, then you aren't a cuck
>>574139 >this is a relatively new phenomenon >he fell for the "Muslims were peaceful during medieval times until ebil Christians came" meme As long as there have been religions, there have been extremists. And you're deluding yourself if you think that the Muslims somehow had less extremists than the Christians had
>>573419 No, it preserved Europe from Islam. But Christianity isn't any elss foreign to Europe.
Had Islam replaced Christianity we would still have European culture, just more Muslim themed and rather than Christian identity faggots larping as crusaders we would have Muslim identity faggots larping as Jihadis.
>>574150 As long as there have been humans, there have been "extremists". Blaming extremism on religion is laughably myopic. As for me falling for a meme, that's not what I was implying. I was merely highlighting the fact that few "Muslim" rulers that committed abuses generally didn't care about properly practicing the religion themselves, and were usually drunkards.
There is such a thing as Islamic military jurisprudence, and those that break the laws therein cease being Muslim.
>During his life, Muhammad gave various injunctions to his forces and adopted practices toward the conduct of war. The most important of these were summarized by Muhammad's companion and first Caliph, Abu Bakr, in the form of ten rules for the Muslim army:
>"O people! I charge you with ten rules; learn them well! Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone."
>>574182 >There is such a thing as Islamic military jurisprudence, and those that break the laws therein cease being Muslim.
Except literally the same thing also existed in Christian Europe. Did that change anything about the way Christian war was fought? Not really, and the Islamic equivalent didn't stop war from being war either
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