Most of the core population of Ancient Macedonians became either

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Prof. G. Wiegland (Die Nationalen Bestrebungen der Balkansvölker, Leipzig) German, 1898

Total: 2,275,000 (100%)
Slavophone: 1,200,000 (52.7%)
Greek: 220,000 (9.7%)
Turkish: 695,000 (30.5%)
-- All Muslims,
incl. Albanians under Turks


Richard von Mach (Der Machtbereich des bulgarischen Exarchats in der Türkei,
Leipzig - Neuchâtel) German, 1906

--Christian population only--
1,334,827 (100%)
Slavophone: 1,166,070 (87.4%)
Greek: 95,005 (7.1%)
Albanian: 6,036 (0.5%)

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Robert Pelletier (La verité sur la Bulgarie, Paris) French, 1913

--Christian population only --

Total: 1,437,000 (100%)
Slav: 1,172,000 (81.5%)
Greek: 190,000 (13.2%)
Albanian: 3,036 (0.2%)


Leon Dominian (The frontiers of Language and Nationality in Europe, New York) U.S., 1917
--Christian only--
Total population: 1,438,084 (100%) Slav: 1,172,136 (81.5%)
Greek: 190,047(13.2%)

What is this retarded thread about?

The Vlachs came from further north, the Turks of Macedonia were mostly settled there from Anatolia in the first centuries of its Ottoman occupation and the Albanians expanded massively throughout the region in late Medieval times.

The statistics you're citing are for a region that extends all the way to the Šar mountains (compare it to the Macedonian kingdom of your first pic which looked like that after expanding and incorporating non-Macedonians too) and included Paeonians, Illyrians, Dardanians, Thracians etc.

Finally, populations weren't static but moved from place to place in times of upheaval so the people who lived in a certain, small area in the 4th century BC didn't live in the exact same small area in the 19th.

What's up with all this Vardar propaganda coming from the 19th and early 20th century. Because some fucker believed something 200 years ago that doesn't mean it's true.

Well most of these maps include large parts that weren't actual Macedonia like today's fyrom/Macedonia and all Muslims were counted as Turks even Muslim Greeks and Slavs. Thessalonica was indeed a very mixed place were even the Jews held the majority at some points. But what is your suggestion? That the city shouldn't belong to Greece today?

Did the golden horde influence the eastern european languages in any way?

>>565524
Not really, Mongols in general weren't influential at all and no one liked them, the only thing that can maybe be described as a golden horde successor state is Kazakhstan.