Hey /his/, want to talk about psychology?

Sure.

Behaviorism is the most retarded shit ever. And it's all that those pop-psychology twats ever talk about. Go on reddit and ask for a "good social manipulation/trick" and you read the most retarded shit. Repeating the name of the person. Or reproducing their gestures and body language.

It's such 19th century bullshit. Even Freud has a more modern grasp of the human soul than those retards.

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>>543142
I want to analyze the psychology of pornstars.

Why would they take hundreds of dicks for probably less than $900 at a time? Do they think about the fact that children are watching them get rawdogged by other dudes? Are the complacent with the fact that their videos are giving people ED, cuckold, and disgusting fetishes?

How do they still have normal friends when they're getting pounded like every week? Does this strain their family's relationship? Why are they smiling and laughing on their social media pages when their profession is arguably the most frowned upon in the entire world?

I would like to sit down with one of them and ask them this and see how'd they respond. It's interesting, but I mainly want to get down to why it seems like the people involved in that industry are so indifferent to the suffering they cause.

>>543142
I want to study psychology. Can psychologists give me some advice?

>>543191
If you study it, make sure you get a license or a degree in Industrial and organizational (I/O) psychology. The market is oversaturate with psychologists.

>>543191

what kind of things do you have in mind when you think about psychology

>>543218
No jobs except that? Pity.

>>543181
They're mentally ill rejects dumbbass.

>>543228
Interested in human motivation, desire etc. Intend to study philosophy along with it.
But really it is the only viable non-natural science (very good at them, but utterly uninterested) high education career choice in my nation. That was my original motivation.
t. Croatian

>>543244
While I have no doubt thats true about some (stoya for instance), i imagine that some do it as it is the best paying job they can hope to get.

>>543181
Perhaps they just don't think of it as disgraceful. Perhaps for them it is just a shot at money, fame, success. A career.

>>543244
Mentally ill, probably. I think mentally people would probably still have sympathy for others. Hence why I want to know how they feel about how their videos affect others.

Also, check out the story of Mika Tan. She went through college and landed a good job. Yet for some reason she decided that porn would be better. Isn't this a phenomenon that should be analyzed?

>>543291
Think about what most of those girls have to do for porn. They essentially make themselves objects, letting heinous things be done to them. I don't see how they could not feel shame or regret about those things.

>>543366
>I think mentally people would probably still have sympathy for others.

They're not even aware of how their actions effect others in the first place. They're mentally ill, their brains are broken.

So what do we think about different types of psychology?

>Psychoanalysis
>Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT)
>Mindfulness


Personally I like reading Freud and Jung for shits and giggles but accept the criticisms and limitations.

I'm doing CBT at the moment, finding it extremeley helpful in reducing anxiety.

I meditate every day and also find the practice + mindset extremely enriching/liberating.

>>543366
She was a meth addict.

>>543485
She was?

I thought she worked for a travel agency or something.

>>543142


Psychology is what psychology does, in a pragmatic sense. What good is a geologist in a tornado . . .unless they are trained to deal with tornadoes for some reason. I.E. knowledge is as good as its function.

What good is a computer programmer at the end of the world? Dietary supplement?

It's a silly question.

Psychology is as good as psychology can come to explaining behavior and the brain in deduction, and the mind and behavior in induction. There is the concept of the field.

Its failure, then, is one of funding, therapeutic use as a science, and bias in one area but not others.

examples of the last proposition are:

polygraph but not hypnosis?

everyone directed, male tested, psychotropics?

In what manner do the general public experience psychology? and is it helping the public or personal good?

The biggest problem to psychology is bureaucracy. After that, its psychologists self-importance.

>>544018
>The biggest problem to psychology is bureaucracy.
This.

Also, pharmaceuticals. Many psychologists will prescribe pills at the bat. Their job is to identify and help remove problems of the patient, not to make them a walking pharmacy.

Corporatism at its finest.

>>544018
>>544070
What would the solution to this issue be?

>>544070

that's the job of a psychiatrist, at least in my country

psychologists here are more connected to cognitive studies and research, and therapists to the clinical side of it.

psychiatry is a joke. i went for a session, got 15 minutes, some shitty unmotivated young woman pretending to care, and just gave me anti depressants without me needing it.

with therapy i actually made progress. one our session, caring and sensible male therapist, total bro.

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>>543181
most of them are broken individuals from broken homes raped several times before even reaching adulthood
the others are just greedy cunts that see riding dicks as a good way to get money and (in)fame

but answering to your question in how do they keep living while showing off what should be kept in their closest intimacy - well a simple word: drugs.

>>543142
I'd love to but half the moralfags on this board would accuse of being a madman, edgy or some combination of the two.

Best place of psych dicussions is /adv/

I have a friend doing his PhD in psych at the moment. He's very intelligent, but becomes fucking insufferable when he drinks or during serious conversations, because he breaks any topic of conversation down to a psychological discussion we can't compete with/don't have the patience for. Do all psychologists think their field is the crucial area of academia underpinning all others (law, international relations etc), or is it just this guy?

>>543179
you never had a dog have you

>>543191
yes
dont

>>543470
psychoanalisis is not considered psychology anymore thank galilei
cognitive psychology is the only way

>>544018
i got schizophrenia reading this post

>>545619
>Do all psychologists think their field is the crucial area of academia underpinning all others (law, international relations etc), or is it just this guy?

Everyone I've met that's been doing a PhD think their field of study is a special snowflake other fields don't know enough about.

But you're a cunt if you're using the jargong of your discipline when speaking to people outside of it. Studying an inter-disciplinary subject, it's a bitch because more times than not you end up with people talking past each other.

t. Post-grad

>>544070
PSYCHOLOGISTS CAN'T PRESCRIBE MEDICINE, that's the PSYCHIATRIST job
also
>muh medicine are bad

>>544070
this
also infighting, money, polypharma, bias, money, lack of research, too much research, money, journalism, reliance on statistical theory, money, reactance to experiments not directly based off someone else's research, anti-psychiatry movements, money, business practices, a flawed "standard" of ethics, certifications, and cash
>>545619
law students and just about everyone else does it too, it's just that psychology branches into so many things
>>547417
kinda yeah, it depends. the problem mainly lies in the success rate. yes, its effective in about 50% of instances and logically makes sense. problem is, just because it's logical doesn't mean it'll end up working. plus it too often has caveats hard to get past. Plus when should it be applied?
for example, those that have HSDD. would you force them out of their thinking that they are asexual? would you force them to have treatment?
plus psychoanalysis is often useful for somatization disorders
>>544372
this is the experience of far too many

overall psychology has the power to do wonders

>>547431
no i get drugs i do, in fact i use'm myself
just keep a few things:
A: research on certain drugs are manipulated fairly often by outside forces
B: data from pharma trials are often manipulated, biased, and selective. many such as Phizer will do a meadly of experiments until they get one with a decent success rate and throw out most of the data from the rest
C: marketing of pharma is often manipulative, such as the term "side-effect." its as if there aren't merely drugs and their affect and that intended effect matters next to the actual affect.
D: drugs in your body often react with each other, and rarely are there experiments showing long term effects of multiple drugs at once rather than the long term effects of one drug. what we do often get is alcohol + a certain drug
E: i worked for a pharma company once as a research tech and no one in pharma besides the higher up business people made any money or got anything out of it. also the healthcare plan was shit besides dental
F: much like oil companies Pharma often impedes advancement of others in order to advance their own agenda and goals. this is done mainly through lobbyists, lawyers, money, blackmail, and intimidation, but occasionally is conducted with some muscle bought for insurance. i also got to work for a vitamin supplements company for a week and after a few guys with guns stood in front for half a day the office literally got ransacked by some guys from Walgreens Boots or Phizer.

>>545619

psychology is crucial starting point for many more departments also, I would argue even mathematics and especially philosophy, the book that I will write will be dealing with these aspects indirectly.

The truth is, academia will just become more obtuse until psychology can command the respect in becoming the foundation of all academia, by its proper and convincing development!

Although I know this is the only viable future, my work is probably the only thing capable of bringing us closer to this, and as psychology is still probably 200 years behind reaching this point, neuroscience has no hope of directly aiding [the real work for] it's development.

When I say psychology, it is probably better to describe it as psychology that displaces every possible fragmentation in the philosophy department, which as a byproduct makes linguists obsolete, when linguists becomes perfectly accounted for by that abovementioned knowledge.

I'm sad to say that people (at university) really just aren't intelligent enough to ever solve these hurdles, I consider myself a genius, and I can't even get a sit down with anyone at a psychology department, and even if I could, perhaps their aversion is justified, because what would be the point of trying to explain trigonometry to a culture that has yet to discover algebra (this is a metaphor).

I'm in Cape Town South Africa, gonna go see if I can find some support from the Jungians or Theosophical society to develop the presentation of the theses, but its hard since I devoted so much energy into this study, at the expense of so much in my personal domain.

>>543181
i hate you for derailing this thread

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>>550508
hearty kek
7/10

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