Ontological arguments are defined as those made from logic alone

>>512819
>i just discovered new atheism and don't know what the word ontology means

If I were to assume a worldview of secular humanism, nobody would be able to deny it, given that I add that rejecting such a worldview makes you unreasonable, religious or discriminatory.

if however, the existence of such a worldview were affirmed throughout media, taught as sacred truth on the internet and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to accept it would become a mark of eccentricity and backwardness.

>>512831
All the ontological arguments are pure logic

>>512953
You need to brush up on basic metaphysics.

>>513560
He needs to do more than brush up on it, he needs to fucking roll around in it

>>513560
Metaphysics have been replaced by physics.

>>513615
Top cuck
Why are you even here?

>>513560
>>513610

Is /his/ really this stupid?

>>513624
3/10 made me reply as i was scrolling down the board.

>>513615
You clearly don't even know what physics is, much less metaphysiscs

>>512819
Such a stupid fucking picture to use, Russell was making a point about theology, not metaphysics.

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>>513615
>mfw

Any thread or post that starts with 'x is defined by y' is defined by faggotry.

Ontological arguments are a certain CLASS of arguments that deduce x by way of 'necessity'. They are nut 'defined' by anything other than that.

The axioms of mathematics do not require empirical evidence for their validity. Are mathematics therefore pointless?

>>513808
>Ontological arguments are a certain CLASS of arguments that deduce x by way of 'necessity'

Didn't Hume prove that all things are 'neccary' in the ontological sense, effectively destroying the entire filed forever.

>>514967

No.

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>>512819
>>513683

Though to be fair, there could be a teapot in space. If alien species and what not is to be concerned, through millions of years of history there is bound to be a species who had created the equivalent of and it is floating around in space for reasons unknown.

>>512819
>Therefore, all ontological arguments are pointless.

All arguments are ontological.

fixed.

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What's going on in this thread, guys?

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>>513615

>>515383
Go jack off onto the theologica, Bill.

>>513808
>Are mathematics therefore pointless?

It can be depending on what premises you choose. For example, if they poorly model what we observe in reality

>>512877
>taught as sacred truth
Bad selection of words to begin.

>>515692

That's a problem with the model, or more likely the modeler, not maths.

>>515383
Is there anything he can't do?

>>515941
You mean besides butchering the 'cosmological' argument :^)