>>511123 >For what purpose? To remind people how much an incapable tyrant can fuck up a country. Russia lost in a few weeks of terribly handled protests more land and industry than any other country in a comparable amount of time. Even Alexander's successors did better.
>>511466 That if he were in charge of the transition of the Soviet Union from communism to capitalism Poland, Ukraine, Finland, Belarus and all the Baltic states wouldnt exist, and Russia would be bigger today.
>>511123 All the memeing aside, Belarus is a really sad country.
>Be an integral part of Lithuania >Lithuanian dukes were still Lithuanian so you don't have any national elites at all >Not even eventually polonified Ruthenian szlachta and cossacks like in Ukraine >Develop to be a definite separate nation, with its own territory and language >Yet have absolutely zero national self-awareness, perhaps even worse than Bosnia, and unlike Ukraine which has always been fighting for self-determination in some way or another >Short period of national revival in the early 20th century gets rekt by Russkies >Short period of national revival in the 90s gets rekt by Russkies, retarded commie elites and your own citizens not having any feeling of national belonging >Belarusian language is nearing Gaelic in its spread >Life off refining cheap Russian oil and slowly wait for the end >Official history basically starts with WW2 and ends with WW2 >Unofficial is claiming WE WUZ LITVINZ and trying to find great Belarusian people besides Kalinovski
It's like watching a small constantly sick child dying of cancer.
>>511473 Isnt modern Belarus practically owned by Putin? And I dont mean Russia, I mean Putin personally, and his "government" oil companies and other businesses that he created by confiscating mob property.
>>511478 It's really hard to tell with Belarus. It's definitely completely dependent on Russia because
1. Most of exports is refined oil and fertilizers. 2. Its gas pipeline is owned by Gazprom.
On one hand, however, some say that Lukashenko has a degree of freedom in his actions. For example, he shared maps of planned Russian offensive into Ukraine to Turchynov in 2014 and basically told no to any military action from Belarusian side.
Some, on the other hand, say Lukashenko can't do anything significant because the country is essentially sold out already. Russian-financed organizations are like cockroaches there and people can get jailed for original state symbols.
Whichever the truth is, nobody fucking knows. Belarus is a very closed state and as of now, Belarus is Lukashenko and Lukashenko is Belarus. Doubt even he knows, in fact.
>>511521 Hopefully he grooms his son well, else Russia will swallow it whole. On the other hand, Putin himself will be evacuating soon, and he still hasnt produced any apparent "heir" to his neo-Russian empire. Medveev isnt anywhere near hard enough, and that other mongol looking military guy is mostly used to talk to other asian countries, he isnt familiar in the west whatsoever.
>>512123 Yes. The problem is, their national self-awareness is so fucking weak it's heart-breaking to see. Belarusians as a proper nation formed perhaps the last in Europe, and almost immediately after they did 1917 came so they don't have shit for classics or historians save for a select few Russians deemed acceptable to have around and not exterminate.
>>511466 >>512128 Basically when the Soviet Union broke up, megalomaniacs stole what there was to steal, they didn't care for other people and the Russian economy drastically decreased until putin got Russian shit together.
>>512128 There was also a union-wide plebiscite that voted in favor of preserving the union in a different form, and at this time the democratization reforms of Gorbachev more or less made it clear that the plebiscite was democratic. Yeltsin forcing a dissolution was essentially a coup.
This obviously doesn't account for the Baltic States, who wanted to leave ASAP.
>>515476 We live in the era of nationalism senpai, not dualism or dual monarchy.
>literally nothing stopping them there is. once you establish a state with its own administrators and its own class of elites with economic interests, these forces will always have a stake in maintaining the status quo. The prospect of polish-lithuanian union benefits nobody on each side of this scenario, except for emotional ones. Remember that the only reason Poland and Lithuania united in the first place was because the elites in those two states realized their union would make them stronger against foreign armies; first the teutonic knights, then then muscovy. Unless Putin does some insane move like invade Latvia and Estonia (without taking Lithuania) would the prospect of union ever be taken up again. In other words, the two nations face no existential threats strong enough to unite them.
>>515837 >Międzymorze I hadn't known about him before, interesting. His idea for resurrecting the Poland-Lithuania seems romantic to me, because like the articles says: >Intermarium was, however, perceived by some Lithuanians as a threat to their newly established independence, and by some Ukrainians as a threat to their aspirations for independence Multi-national entities died with the First World War. Many people rightfully predicted beforehand that giving everyone in eastern and central europe self-determination would weaken them against foreign powers at the end of the day. And as the second part of the sentence indicates and [intermarum] was opposed by Russia and by most Western powers, except France, who backed it. indicates that Russia knew that a strong east-central european state would not be in its interests. This is exactly why Prussia and Russia kept Poland-Lithuania weak throughout the 18th century before annexing it. They recognized that the centralized commonwealth was all too easy for them to manipulate and that a strong Poland-Lithuania might be a threat to them both.
>>516019 True. To be more precise, multi-national empires headed by a monarch died with WWI. The USSR made a claim to internationalism and so justified its claims to rule various nationalities, but many nationalities did not willingly join until the Red Army crushed them at the end of the Civil War. The central asians, Georgians, Cossacks and Armenians were a few examples of this. Ukraine and Belarus left with the fall of the USSR and the Chechens put up strong resistance against Yeltsin and Putin. Other national populations underwent Russification during the USSR and the central government tended to discriminate against minority populations.
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