I this noticed the trend in recent years. Censorship is getting stronger than before. Anyone knows the reason behind this?
those are some pretty bullshit laws given the content and the fact that anyone can look in the mirror and knows exactly what a naked human looks like.
The laws make no sense and are entirely rooted in mcarthian japanese being too heavily influenced by american censorship.
That kind of censorship really doesn't show up in Murrican porn, the more common situation is that either the stuff is allowed in a locale or it's banned outright. (Covering does turn up, but it's when the material is generally not intended as smut, more just incidentally "racy".)
The Japanese approach is really a home grown phenomenon.
Hentai, as an entire genre of porn, has come up with some of the BEST fapping material in the world, as well as shit i wouldn't even watch for giggles. But some of the really good stuff is just marred by this ridiculous censoring. god fucking damnit Japan. In a country that invented tentacle porn, why the fuck do you have to harsh my wank with your weak-ass mosaic and black bar bullshit?
This can be true saying that the studio un-censoring doesn't have access to the source material. Most often the censorship is on a separate layer. Also sometimes uncensored can still look like garbage because the artist has no clue about what a vagina actually looks like.(most likely because most everything's censored)
This shit got way worse during the whole Rapelay fiasco.
Basically SJWs found out about a game about rape in Japan and made a shit storm. Japan got talked down to on the international table. Japanese companies like Minori stopped all traffic from non-Japan IPs on their websites.
To appease foreign interest groups Japan cracked down harder on their censorship laws and now we get shit like this.
>Can someone spoon feed me because I'm a fucking babby
This is probably my favorite form of working around censorship, not only does the person look naked but it appeal to my skin tight fetish
Fuck Americans, man. I'm sure the laws were written in to fuck with the Japanese for generations down as a kind of small kick to the balls. But I'm sure they never expected that generations down the line we'd love in a lot more of a globally connected society where we share the same media with one another and Americans get fucked over by it as well.
Incorrect. Pic related.
nah, but its like if we were at a long ass dinner table and I didn't have sauce and you were at the other end of the table with it. hopefully I would be able to convince you and anyone else at the table to pass the sauce.
Don't be a dick. It's always been reasonable to ask for sauce in a thread, it's just cancerous when you make a thread specifically for the purpose of finding sauce on something.
If posted that single page earlier. I don't mind telling him where I got it from, and he's have an easier and faster time just asking me since I posted it.
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Actually, disregard that, I suck dicks.
found that shit, thanks for the help getting sauce, B0ss
Most of this recent rise is in response to 156-kun, AKA "Healthy Development of Youths"
It has absolutely nothing to do with SJWs, and everything to do with the re-emergence of the hardline National Right/Imperial Revival movement, you tits.
for more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Metropolitan_Ordinance_Regarding_the_Healthy_Development_of_Youths#Bill_156
>Its purpose is to promote the healthy development of people under the age of 18 by restricting their access to published material that is considered harmful. The restrictions are primarily carried out through self-regulation by the publishing industry.
>The Ordinance was controversially revised in December 2010 to expand the definition of "harmful publications" and to give the Metropolitan government greater powers to enforce the law's provisions.
So we'll have pervert terrorist soon?
It's not complicated. A couple years ago, the Comic Megastore offices got raided for not censoring their stuff enough, which was probably more of a mobster thing than a legal thing. It spooked the other companies to censor their stuff more. They've actually been getting a little more lax lately - compare some of the tanks that came out right after the raid from MSC, which got mega-pixellated, and now they're back to using bars (though a bit thicker than it used to be.)
Keep "huurr hurr SJW" you basement dwellers.
What if we could get someone in a higher power in on this issue. Like if we can get someone to spout some nonsense about how their declining birth rates are due to their harsh censorship. Something really believable, and just start spreading this shit everywhere. Could this work?
"Nobody is going to take your ______ away!" is always a lie when it comes out of a millennial's mouth. Meanwhile China is turning it's citizens credit scores into a "citizen score", doing shit like buying hentai or games will lower your score making you less able to live a civilized life where you get into schools, get loans, get rented to, etc. Don't be fooled, this is how the SJW want everyone to live. The japanese SJW are just also Japanese nationalists (aka racist) but because of the Internet they're really not much different than SJW elsewhere. SJW is a stand alone complex caused by us being the first generation to grow up online and not a conspiracy with leaders or a structure. SJWism is the essence of the millenial generation's hatred and fear at being the first generation to communicate without identity or pretext.
True, but it's based on old christian values imposed by America and other westernizers, such values aren't even seen in the "christian world" these days, so it's kind of a moot point.
>China is turning it's citizens credit scores into a "citizen score"
In America, you can be denied a job position due to a low credit score and no one seems to have a problem with this. It's very common among government workers that want to move up into middle and upper management.
China is still a totalitarian shithole that has adopted jewish greed.
Everyone involved would go to jail. There'd also be hell to pay in fines. Without the political clout to make such a thing worth it and not get any backlash beyond someone calling you out on it, there is no way around it beyond moving out of the country. And no one's that passionate about some porn to piss away their livelihood or their freedom. People have bills to pay and lives to lead. And getting tossed into the clink for some unmarred dick and pussy drawings isn't worth it.
This might work if they worked together as a collective, but they don't, any more then we do. Just small or single person groups doing stuff that they like.
And lets say they did that, collectively.
You think that'd make it harder for the fucknuts in charge to go after them? They'd just go down a list and bust each and every one of them.
Why is it when we take one step forward, we take two steps back.
Thought it was bad when HF had to start censoring their works...
Guys I've read the whole thread but may have missed something... Because I'M A SHITTY RETARD. Anyway, don't japanese people have access to our western internet? I mean is their traffic blocked? Does their pc stop working if they write "uncensored"?
They can download uncensored stuff just fine, but publishers who produce products for the Japanese market can face legal consequences if they don't censor their work. It's perfectly legal for Japanese companies to license uncensored versions to foreign publishers, and Nobody cares if Japanese people download those, but there might be a problem if Japanese publishers were obviously doing that specifically to circumvent censorship laws for Japanese customers. Ultimately it's the companies that are held responsible, not the customers.
It's illegal to "import" obscene (i.e. uncensored) porn. That might apply to downloads as well, especially if they want to make an example of someone.
They can't even buy uncensored DVDs abroad and try to bring them back, they'll get fined and/or arrested. Customs can and will search and open DVDs. I even heard of a couple who got arrested for trying to import their own homemade amateur porn, because it wasn't censored.
It's fucked up, but it's not going to change except for the worse. Even if it's literally the only thing that could save Japan's economy, they're not going to change this law. It's the only way Japan as a whole can keep pretending that it's not the most obscene country on Earth.
Admittidly, this was done back in aug of 14, and I only recently just noticed it, but they had someone complain about 'loli' artwork to someone else, who bitched at their host provider, so the admin declared all shota, loli, and any charas under 18 IN APPEARANCE, to be verboten.
HF still survives, and you're still seeing art coming out of there, but little shit like that is just making the last two years major suck, and this coming year, even more so.
I remember seeing this trend back when it was called the Moral Majority, but this time around, it's different. there's no one person or organization trying to push this agenda on us, it's a result of the internet, and like the net, it's not focused in one place.
As for censorship from japan, it's like what was posted earlier. It comes and goes in stages. Someone gets busted, the collective go into butt clench mode, and go lightsaber dick and pussy bars all over the place.
After things calm down, they go back to gray bars.
The only time the art is kept uncensored for later use is if they have reason to believe they can get published in the west.
That's a very small group of them.
Kind of the point, do the minimum you can get away with.
Whoever would rid Japan of censorship.
Here's what you must do first: Make it so people can say "fuck" on TV here without censoring, and not getting fired for it.
Once you have accomplished that feat, you will understand the magnitude of your chosen task, for it will be more than ten times harder.
>Only thing to save their economy
...I think you're overestimating importance. If a country relies on porn that much for GDP then they fucked up somewhere along the line, and I don't mean WW2 decisions.
that i know they don't rely on it really but it is a good portion of the deal man, not just that but imagine, you give the people porn for decades to relieve stress or whatever else, they accostume to using the porn and then you take it away, what's going to happen? not something catastrophic but something no bueno, it's like the alcohol dilema in new york, the didn't went well at fucking all but humanity will never ever learn to deal with their shit, even less this generation where everyone thinks they have THE right to speak, at the pace we're going the generation that's growing right now could very well start another world war
>that i know they don't rely on it really but it is a good portion of the deal man
>you give the people porn for decades to relieve stress or whatever else, they accostume to using the porn and then you take it away, what's going to happen?
Japanese people watch western uncensored porn on western porn sites.
>it's like the alcohol dilema in new york, the didn't went well at fucking all but humanity will never ever learn to deal with their shit, even less this generation where everyone thinks they have THE right to speak, at the pace we're going the generation that's growing right now could very well start another world war
WHAT THE HELL are you even talking about?
>Japanese people watch western uncensored porn on western porn sites.
we know they arent stupid, they can block that just as they are blocking porn on england and how they pretty much block most of the outside ethernet in china, i used the alcohol restriction as reference to what could end up happening (when the alcohol was ilegalized people started doing clandestine brew productions with harmful chemicals or they just plane drank ethilic alcohol, many people had lethal intoxications and car accidents rised a fuckton so they had to legalize alcohol again), oh and i forgot to mention, yes, they fucked up really nice somewhere else that being their exchange market, many people see japan as a successful country because of their determination and pride to do things but we know how things are, the righteous stay in the bottom while the corrupt go up so any progress that could be done with their "honor" would be abused by the fuckers in the government, leaving in japan is hard, everything is expensive and cramped but at least they know how to keep it somewhat together unlike china
Lol, these idiots can't even see that what they're doing is hurting them.
Censorship seems to be having a detrimental effect on the birthrate.
No censorship = higher birthrate
Suddenly they censor everything = birthrate plummets like a peregrine falcon diving after a mouse.
These people aren't making these laws based off of rational reasoning.
Either they're making them based off of personal feelings or to appeal to older people who think porn is terrible and evil.
I hope one japan will stop censored hentai and porn.
You're really hell bent on this point. However the fact that the Japanese have a cultural belief regarding sex that may or may not have been influenced by "Western" whatever that means is truly what is moot. They have a practice that is relatively unique to them and their contemporary attitudes. Gef over it weeb.
He mischaracterized it. Look it up and you'll get a better idea of how disturbing and Orwellian it is. Also it's the other way around they're using "citizenship scores" like credit scores. Read CCP loyalty rewards points.
This is from before the early 1900's when the obscenity censorship law was instated. Also, fortunately pubic hair isn't illegal. However until recently it was considered "obscene" so it had to be censored. Nowadays it can be shown freely.
In the US, credit scores are used to determine if a person can be trusted to be honest/responsible if they are in government or business positions where they deal with money or run the risk of being bribed.
For example, if you are always borrowing money and your finances are a mess, can you be trusted to always turn in the drug money you recover during arrests? What if they are offered money to turn a blind eye to certain criminal activities?
I don't even understand censoring, it's such a ass backwards way. It's like saying you know your kid is going to find porn, so we'll just censor it instead. Instead of just taking responsibilty and just making the shit harder to get access to.
And honestly who cares if someone sees porn at a "young age"? If the person is willing to seek it out, maybe they're the age where they need to be talked to about it. Or they're old enough to view it.
Instead of just hiding it and censoring it.
It's illegal to import uncensored porn and you can go to jail for it. So better encrypt that shit in case they open your luggage, and don't have any incriminating covers or books in it.