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/tpg/: ThinkPad General

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IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net

Previous thread:
>>62351240
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN P, T, X, and W SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™

Recommended IBM models:
X60, X61, T60, T61, 860, Transnote, PC110

Recommended old models:
X200, W500

Recommended modern models:
X220 - 12", 768x1366, cheap and light
T420 - normal size, 14", 900x1600
T520 - 15", 1080p, Quadcore-CPUs
W520 - desktop replacement, 15", USB 3.0

Last good models:
X230 - 12", USB 3.0, IPS option avaiable, classic keyboard installable
T440p - 14", last ThinkPad to have replacable CPUs, 1080p IPS displays avaiable
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Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com

ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/

ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
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I'm looking for a laptop with a good 1080p IPS screen and maybe a backlit keyboard.

What should I do /g/?
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>Tfw you rub your penis on trackpoint
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Are all the SATA HD caddys pretty much interchangable?
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>used thinkpads for over a decade
>avoided visiting tpg due to its popularity with autistic penniless teenagers in other threads
>finally decide to check it out
>no X1C, no T470 in recommended despite being the best modern laptops by a mile
>fucking W520 that is probably the worst piece of shit known to man surpassing even its contemporary dell precision antics
>all the antiquated IBM models that should be of no interest to anyone who does anything besides watching anime and browsing 4chan on a computer
>mfw it's literally 14 year old 1337 h4xx0r poorfag central
>yfw no face
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>>62366323
XX50.
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reminder that people who like softrim suck dells dick
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>>62366364
nic bait 14yo kiddo but you must be 18 to post here enjoy reddit
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>>62366364
>t.millennial newfag tumblrina named Stacy
Tits or gtfo
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>>62366348
Seems like the drive itself is, but the plastic piece that goes on the outside is what differs per model.

Source: The caddy I have for my t420 fits my a660 satellite but the outter plastic doesn't match.
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>>62366243
>Last good models:
>T440p - 14", last ThinkPad to have replaceable CPUs, 1080p IPS displays available
So... Apparently last good ThinkPad will soon be a 5 year old machine.
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>>62366420
>>62366433
>cookie cutter preteen responses
The sad part is they're not even ironic. Nu-4chan... why am I autistic enough to still be here.
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>>62366470
And?
.....unless chinks start manufacturing new mobos for xx20/30
>>62366493
>Doesn't understand the purpose of /tpg/
>Nu/fag/ acts like nu/fag/
>expects autists here to entertain her dumb opinion
Baka....lurk moar. Also, tits or gtfo
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>>62366493
indeed bye
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>>62366469
yeah I've got a bevel rather than the glorious rectanguar prism, I guess I'll just have to deal with it.
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>>62366580
>literally an autistic buzzword salad
>newfag/oldfag obsession
>it's a babby tries to fit in on this cool ebin meme club
go away
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>>62366243
Ugh! You nerds still like that old laptop anon? Just get an apple you virgin :^)
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>>62366635
didnt she become some slut and sell nudes or something
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T440p for 500$. Is it good deal?
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>>62366580
>And?
It's still usable but it's inevitably getting old.
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>>62366715
Don't worry m8, chinks will save us.
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>>62366243
since I cannot find a good value 14'' Thinkpad in my region, I started looking into some other options.

Would a HP Folio 9470m for 300 euros give me the proper business experience and bang for my buck? Will use it for GIS and programming so will probably run some Linux distro.

Curious what you guys think
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>>62366688
Paid $200 for mine.

If you're looking for a 1080p screen buy a low res T440p and replace the screen yourself it's cheaper
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I found the x250 for very cheap at a local store, is it worth it? Is it a complete meme?
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Any reason to not get a X1 Carbon 5th gen besides the price?
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>>62366873
keyboard probably
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>>62366613
i think you can swap the bezels over with a little superglue if you can get the original off in one piece
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>>62366887
I haven't heard anything bad about the keyboard, and i was totally ok with the chiclet keyboard on my x230
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>>62366936
yeah I was referring to chiclet in general, if you're fine with it go for it.
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>>62366946
I probably will. I need a laptop for university and I really don't feel like going for a used one a third time.
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Why does my x220 go to 96C instantly when I open youtube?
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are the T43s any good for day-to-day use?

what distro would be best for these specs?

Intel Pentium M 750 (1.86GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB)
14.0″ SXGA (1400 x 1050) display
60GB, 7200RPM Hard Drive
512MB DDR2 SDRAM
CD-RW/DVD-RW (CD 24x Read, 16x Write) (DVD 3x Read, 2x Write)
Standard 6-cell battery and optional 9-cell extended life battery
Ports: 2 USB 2.0, 1 ExpressCard slot, 1 PCMCIA card slot, 56K Modem, Ethernet LAN port, PS2 port, headphone jack, microphone jack, parallel port, VGA out port
Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2
ATI X300 Graphics Card with 64MB RAM
Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 802.11 a/b/g internal wireless card
Fingerprint scanner for security

what would be a fair price for this?
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Why does my x220 go to 96C instantly when I open youtube
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>>62367245
Who do you bet?
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>>62366635
thanks /pol/
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>>62367267
Repaste.
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where is the album with bios boot logos
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>>62367642
i have a few i can dump that i made yesterday
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>>62366391
That is an exceedingly good laptop with which modern thinkpads can't compete.
...but yes, softrim is crap.
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>>62366364
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Thats all. may make more later this week if the mood strikes, not much of a graphic designer
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what do you guys keep in those expresscard slots?
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>>62366243
What can I do to improve my T500? Buying an SSD, adding more RAM, etc.

I am on GNU/Linux.
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>>62368214
If you want to improve on hardware, your OS doesn't matter

If you want you could get a better CPU
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>>62368163
weed
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Will a TN screen give me better battery life as opposed to an IPS screen?
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Who else uses their ThinkPad as their main machine?
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>>62368214
T9900, and non-whitelisted bios fir wifi cards
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>>62368486
Sexy setup

What model?
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>>62368498
It's not my pic, but IIRC it's a T430.
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What is the difference between the W500 and T500?
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>>62368486

not me...
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>>62368486
Me. 440p on docking station and two monitors.
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>>62368578
Chassis is more or less the same, the Motherboard is more performant in the W series (better GPU, better heatsink, 4 RAM slot, 2 HDD on newer models...)
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>>62368486
I do, but fuck that setup, I prefer the portability a laptop gives
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>>62368251
>a better CPU
>>62368492
>T9900
Is it librebootable?
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>>62368667
Libreboot is dependent upon the mobo, not the CPU
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>>62368624
W500 only has 2 RAM slots
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>>62368701
Oh, thought it had 4 slots, just as my W510
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>>62368214
Get one of those fancy W500 displays. Better res, better colors, it's a fucking dream come true.
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>>62368659
how much portability do you need? you literally press one button and you can remove your laptop and leave.
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>>62368618
Mind posting a pic of your setup/upgrades?
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>>62368486
i love that aa guys setup and yes its a t430

>>62368659
it has a docking station you blind retarded retard its more portablr than hooking shit up to your laptoo directly
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>>62368746
Just this >>62352209 with the pro docking station and two shitty FHD monitors, nothing fancy or worth taking a photo of.

Getting the quad core upgrade as soon as i find a 4800mq for cheap.
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>>62368624
Thanks friend
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>>62368486
SIX FOOT FOUR
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Suggested screens for a 1080p W520 swap? Or OEM?
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>>62368685
>>62368715
Thanks
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>>62367243
Free
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>>62368163
Nothing, except when I want to connect my eGPU.
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>>62367243
>day-to-day use
nah man, at least not if you want a daily driver. having one is nice though because reading and editing documents is awesome on the 4:3 screen

$30 max, if you're in Europe 60€
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Are aliexpress cpu fans reliable?

Does it even worth to change the fan of a 4 year old x220?

Low number orders doesnt look promising

https://www.aliexpress.com/s/item/32379195957.html?spm=a2g0n.search-cache.0.0.7f25570fWO2lCi
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-F1fotVDfc
Sing along with following lyrics:

>Travelling with an Acer laptop
>With cheap looks and full of botnet
>I met a black beauty, with Core 2 Duo
>Red-Green-Blue, a sexy logo

>Now I'm a ThinkPad user
>It's just the comfiest computer
>Appreciate my four by three screen
>Fuck off normie Apple pre-teens

>Sitting in a Starbuck's cafe
>With a blonde lady next to me
>She said 'What a dinosaur laptop'
>But I just smiled and continued ricing my dekstop

>And I said
>'I am a ThinkPad user
>It's just the comfiest computer
>Appreciate my four by three screen
>Fuck off normie Apple pre-teens'


Make more verses and post to create the ULTIMATE /tpg/ hymn.
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>>62369113
Are eGPU compatible with Libreboot if you use open source GPU driver?
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>>62366364
if you want to meet thinkpaders with jobs visit /r/thinkpad, here are just basement dwellers that rub their ding dong to anime on X220
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What's the best way to preserve a 9cell battery if I plan to keep my laptop plugged in all the time at home?
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>>62369472
Take it out.
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>>62369544
Doesn't it need electricity to keep it fresh?
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>>62369570
It stores energy in the lithium cells. Unless it's in extreme heat, it will not degrade any faster than if it was in your computer all the time.
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>>62369472
If you keep it plugged in, just remove the battery. If you at least occasionally pick your laptop up and unplug it, keep the loading thresholds around 50% - 60%
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is there any reason i should get 1x16gb stick of ram for my t420 vs 2x8gb? hypothetically same speed/brand
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>>62367642
I've got a dozen or so, I'll throw them up when I get home.
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>>62369622
because it doesn't support 16gb sticks
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>>62369622
well since 1x16 gig wont work 2x8
and it wont be the same speed since 2x8 would be working in dual channel
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Just ordered a T440p, feelsgoodman.
What could I put in the drive bay? I don't need a DVD driver.
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>>62369696
empty hdd caddy

it's useful as weed storage
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>>62369706
Won't it make the whole notebook reek of weed?
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>>62369684
>>62369688
shit. thats important
thanks dudes
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>>62369696
Another drive. I've got an SSD and HDD in mine.
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Didn't there used to be a 1080p panel mod for the T420?
Is it dead?
I heard the 1600x900 panel makes you miss the 1366x768
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>>62369826
it didnt work, electrical interference and sheit made it flicker
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>>62369739
>not using a chink msata ssd
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>>62369729
blaze it

also nah, that thing seems to have pretty good cooling just look at this shit >>62352209
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>>62369845
I see.
Is the 1600 one as bad as they say?
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>unpacked E570 today preparing it for a customer
>shocked seeing silver hand rest but whatever
>shocked as display panel is meh in brightness and contrast
>after 1 hour of getting it ready being pissed that at seriously underwhelming display I realize its running on battery
>power plugged in, brightness and quality appears

this guy runs a company, drives BMW, but I am kidding you not they needed two people to convince him not to buy the shittiest cheapest thing around, and he is still opting for libreoffice
and he is asking about the cheapest 90€ monitors when for 130€ (no vat) he would at least get HP VH240a, ips...
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>>62369846
Haven't gotten around to that yet. It's a separate slot to the wireless card, right?

>>62369868
It can handle a 47w quad core at max load, it's pretty good.
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>>62369883
it sucks but its usable. feels like shit when watching 1080p tho
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refurbishers are going to replace my thinkpad for having a locked bios :)
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>>62369913
my fucking man, not wasting money except on the things that matter
I wanna meet him
>>62369940
or just keep it and tell them to refund
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>>62369940
Congrats! I know you've been at it with them for a few days right?
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How much RAM should I put in my T440p?

Shitposting/Gaming/Programming mostly. Laptop ram seems inflated atm
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so I need a laptop for uni and want to buy new, currently considering the x250 and the carbon x1 3rd gen.
are any of those two decent or should I get a refurbished x230?
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>>62369955
>or just keep it and tell them to refund
supposedly they don't sell them with locked bios's and this is a fluke
>>62369979
yeah, I almost opened it up too
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hey so my laptop dGPU on my Mac is busted, I ran calculations it would cost about the same as a chinkpad. What are the upsides to a T420 over X220? Is the upgrade for T420 to T430 noticeable? Same with X220 to X230. The laptop I currently got is a used MBP2011 from. my sister any help is appreciated but it's looking like either a xx20 or xx30 series. Use case is just programming and music and I don't mind using a linux distro.
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>>62370008
8GB is fine.
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Business Experience™?
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>>62370173
>What are the upsides to a T420 over X220?
1600x900 instead of 1366x768, upgradeable processor and can use 3 drives at the same time instead of two but on the other hand the x220 has an IPS screen option instead of the t420 TN shit.
>Is the upgrade for *20 to *30 noticeable?
usb 3.0 ports, ivy bridge instead of sandy bridge, better iGPU and the new chiclet keyboard.
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>>62370278
>>62370278
There seems to be about a 20-40 dollar difference between the two, however I have used both, I do prefer the *20 keyboard to *30, can I swap? also does the T430 have an IPS option?
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>>62370318
>I do prefer the *20 keyboard to *30, can I swap?
yes, the keyboard swap mod is a pretty common one.

>does the T430 have an IPS option?
no, same options as the t420 but there's a mod where you can use an alienware screen with better colors and angles, the screen is somewhat hard to find now though.
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>>62369913
he's living the business experience
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my X220 just died, it has been only 3 months since i bought it. Seems like there is a motherboard issue on Thinkpads made in September-December 2011

I feel like shit, it was my main computer
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snatched a T420 what do I have to do to run ivy bridge on it? Is there a special BIOS or will Coreboot just make it work?
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>>62370359
just coreboot

or resell it and get a t430, they cost around the same
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Is there a difference between the T420 and T430 expresscards? I can't find any info on this
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>>62370335
I'll keep that in mind. Which would you prefer of the four options?
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>>62370356
send to rossmann
>>62370381
no, you know why? ExpressCards arent for specific systems, they're an universal standard, but there are different sizes
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>>62370389
t420 + alienware mod because that thing is a perfect compatible candidate for a hackintosh with latest macOS so i can triple boot for maximum memes
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>>62370400
ok the sizes makes sense. I was thinking about lanes etc. I might be getting confused looking at different thinkpads concerning the lane support they provide.

thx

How do you snatch away a good thinkpad on ebay for cheap... people always outbid me on the good ones in the last second
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>>62370451
do you still get the mousepad swipe features? also would i still be able to do IOS dev on it if hackintoshed?
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>>62368486
I'm soon to use my T420 as primary machine and gonna buy an X61 as secondary.

> Already I have an HP Pavilion desktop as primary machine.
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>>62370460
No idea about the touchpad features because i'm a trackpoint user and the trackpoint worked perfectly on macOS.
>would i still be able to do IOS dev on it if hackintoshed
Xcode ran fine but further than that i have no idea about Apple's policies and whatnot, might want to google a bit if you can fully develop for iOS on a hackintosh.
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>>62370520
aight will do thanks for the info
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>>62366635
she sold nudes to buy a macbook
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Picked up a "9 cell"/""""7800mAh"""" for my X230T off ebay from China. I'm feeling like I got chink'd since the max Lenovo makes for this model is a 6 cell, although half the labeling is in German so I guess it could possibly be an aftermarket custom 9 cell or something. It's noticeably heavier than my 6 cell.

Does anyone have any experience with this weird surplus stock? I'm unsure if I just installed a timebomb, but it does seem like it works since it's charging
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>>62371278
and openly admits it what a
superslut
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>>62370269
WTF does Dell expect me to believe that is a ThinkPad?
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>>62370269
so close, but they swapped the fn and ctrl key on the left and the menu and ctrl key on the right.
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>>62370457
I get the feeling that the T430/X430 get PCIE 3.0 instead of 2.0 therefore double the bandwidth with the same 1x lane, but don't quote me on that. Shouldn't be too hard to look up.
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>>62371305
use some battery testing programs, I cant name any atm but there are some iirc
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shit I forgot wasn't there an issue with the xx30 series regarding heating? or is that a meme?
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>>62371523
nani

never heard of it
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>>62366364
>all the antiquated IBM models that should be of no interest to anyone who does anything besides watching anime and browsing 4chan on a computer
>anything besides watching anime and browsing 4chan

Where do you think you are?
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last month I finally put on the black...

got the X1Y2 ... and I will never be able to go back since the feel is just to comfy
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>>62371538
meme it is.
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>>62371523
Nothing in particular. There was the issue of Ivy Bridge desktop CPUs having shit TIM and needing to be delidded to get good temperatures, but laptop CPUs are already bare die so it doesn't apply.

An i7 X230 will be a bit of a housefire, as would a quadcore+dGPU T430, but no stock configuration should ever hit real problem temperatures. My 3720QM+K2000m W530 stays comfortably below 80C all the time.
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>>62371523
That would be the i7 ones
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>>62371610
>>62371601
aaaaaaah ok, so if I wanted a i7 T430 it would be a house fire, but if it was in a W530 it wouldn't. What about a T530 would it still be a housefire?

also what fuck puts a full i7 in a x230?
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bought a T420 with a busted hinge for $36. Got a new lcd back cover w/ hinge for $14.99 and also a new cpu heatsink/fan for $6.44. Working gud now! Really gud.
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>>62371652
That trackpad truly looks disgusting, you can actually just remove that thing like a sticker and replace it. But I'm glad you made such a nice purchase, anon-kun! I hope you enjoy using your ThinkPad to the fullest.
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>>62371629
You can't put a quadcore i7 in an X230, since it's soldered, but the dualcore i7 models will still get pretty toasty. T430 can handle a quadcore if it's an iGPU model with a dGPU heatsink. T530 wouldn't have a problem with a quadcore CPU since it was a stock configuration.
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The wait is real now, I had to order the new keyboard for the x220 because I made that rookie mistake of putting too much rubbing alcohol on it and broke it

Not I gotta wait a week for a new one to arrive, but the new one has a soft rim trackpoint and in the mean time I just swapped the keyboard from my t420 and can use that for now. I was surprised to find one for twenty dollars even though.
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>>62371694
ok that makes sense thanks for the info on T530, can I replace the keyboard with a T520 or nah?
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>>62371723
You can. You have to flash the EC to make it work fully (or at least almost fully, there's maybe two fn key combos that don't work), but I don't think you need any special hardware to do that.
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Thoughts on Lenovo Chromebooks? I kind of want a 4chan dedicated web browsing machine so I can post on /tpg/ all day long. I don't want to use whatever Chrome OS comes with it, I'd probably put Gallium on it.
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>>62371652

yeah that's the next thing i'm going to do is clean it up. I just clorox wipe the entire machine, but haven't done any deep cleaning.
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>>62371585
btw... the oled screen is a life changing experience at night
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What you think about the X230 ??? i bought one used with a 120gb ssd for traveling. My T420 with 9 Cell is just too heavy
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>tfw comfy x220 posting from bed
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>>62371922
230 is way too small. T430 with 9 cell never was too heavy. Just get a bag or backpack.
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>>62372132
i will carry it around all day cause of daytrading
the t420 breaks my bag if i carry it 16 hours with other stuff in backpack as well
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>>62366364
Only thing my x220 tablet can't do is graphically intense gaming. Its perfectly fine for anything else
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>>62369363
Fucking kek
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>ordered a T420 two weeks ago
>still hasn't arrived
Why even live
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>>62372439
>ordered an X61T last night
>isn't here yet
guess i'll kill myself
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>>62372492
>ordered X220 a minute ago
>still isn't shipped
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>>62372550
>ordered X200 a second ago
>still at sellers place
why do I still exist
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I still want a T440s but I don't need it.
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>>62372575
>ordered a X220T a week ago
>posting this two months ago today
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I work with a lot of spreadsheets, any affordable used thinkpads with a full keyboard including numpad? I enjoyed my x220 but a bigger screen and full numpad would be really beneficial to my productivity
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>>62372645
A31p with Ultrabay numpad
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>>62372665
I think using that thing genuinely might give me cancer
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Need a new chromebook, which is the best thinkpad chrome model?
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>>62372713
I was looking for an answer to this as well but it looks like the ThinkPad Chromebook models don't have TrackPoint
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>X61s arrives tomorrow
YES
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So I used the method mentioned here about rejuvenating the battery of a chinkpad by draining it 100 percent, charging it, leaving it to sit for 2 days, draining it to 40 percent, and repeating that whole operation twice

Seems like it only gave me about a half an hour more battery life, should I use the freezer method to rejuvenate it? Will I see the "massive boosts" that were claimed.
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>Went to r/thinkpad for the first time
>Give good advice and shit on the x230 and point of the flaws of the thinkpad
>/g/ praises thinkpads and don't take any criticism
Really makes you think
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>>62372725
That's alright with me.
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My university Is giving me 800 USD to buy a notebook, it's te thinkpad 13 Worth it? It has to be new
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>>62373218
Does refurbished count as new?
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>>62373218
>it's te thinkpad 13 Worth it?
no

I would get an L series.
Not as good as T of course, but pretty close and a lot cheaper.
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>>62373218
I have a first gen one from last year

The chassis has somehow bent...
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>>62373244
I got a refurbished T420 last month.
Honestly, if I didn't know its refurbished I'd've assumed it was new.
Literally zero wear.
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>>62373440
Yeah it costs a bit more but the seller really takes care of the item if they are reputable.
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Is there a way too make the display brighter? On max my T430 is too dim.
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>>62372665
That thing is turbo autism
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>>62373804
Autism is a serious illness and you should not joke with it like that.
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did you remember to walk your thinkpad today anon?
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>>62368486
X220, one monitor, keyboard and mouse. It's nice.
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eGPUs for an X220 with the i5 2520m?
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>>62374579
Yes.
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>>62374671
But which ones?
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>>62374712
Ok.
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Never got our bios logo dump
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>>62373288
I get:
{"success":false,"error":404,"message":"Not Found"} 
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>>62373244
yep,is this ok?
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ultrabook-20F9004FUS-Professional-Refurbished/dp/B01IZACBDU/
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>>62367228
it shouldn't, have you cleaned the fan and vents? reapplied thermal grease recently?
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>>62374790
just made this with paint. im noob at photo editing though
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>>62375048
Someone was talking about making a library of them

If I dont see movement on it soon I'll start putting a showcase together myself.
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How did I do /tpg/?
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>>62375435
how much did you pay for it? What are the specs?
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>>62371687
My W510s looked as bad when I got it, I didn't realise they were supposed to come with the textured surface because of how disgusting my one looked. Ended up scraping all of the nasty shit off with a knife which took all of the original textured surface too.

trackpad still works perfectly but it's silky smooth, best mistake I made with this thing.
>>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122700959009

Decent priced msata if anyone wants to put it in their x230 or whatever. I have the 80gb one.
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>>62375048
i like shinobu, post the original pre-640x480ied

>>62375105
check the previous thread, it's full of bios logos
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>>62375544
>no worldwide sshipping
ree
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>>62375572
try a proxy shipper if you find a cheap one
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>>62375552
here you go anon
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>>62375597
Yeah i have one which also imports my memepads but they're based in Miami, Florida and everything's fugged up over there right?
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>>62375625
my.mixtape.moe/uojvox.gif logo
my.mixtape.moe/futvmp.gif w/o logo
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>>62375751
thank you
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>>62368486
Mine accidentally became my main machine, whenever I started working a lot more using my desktop just got impractical, plus I really like the trackpoint.
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what would be better a hp 2570p with a i7 , a 8770p with a i5 or a x230 with a i5?
the x230 is used and the other 2 are refurbished
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>>62375834
doesn't matter, mobile dual core i5s and i7s are the same shit
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>>62375834
you can replace the cpu in those elitebooks fyi, not in the x230
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>>62374712
750ti or RX 550
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>>62372748

Why would you purchase an X61s when you could get an X60 that has Libreboot via a 10 second software flash?

t. X61s and X60 owner
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>>62375526
None, this was my father's back then and then he gave when I was a kid. Also holy crap I forgot how good this keyboard was, way better then my t560 that I use for work.
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This is my first memepad. I'm a third world poor fag so I really don't have a choice. Is t430 a better purchase than t410 for $40 dollar difference?
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>>62376857
way better
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>buy t420 for $140
>replacing the keyboard costs 30% of it
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Hello, /tpg/. I want to buy a ThinkPad, but have no money. I know many of you are college students and I wanted to ask you how is it working and studying going for you? What is your experience?

I need me a ThinkPad, my current computer is so shit it's actually making me age faster.
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>>62376903
You gettin' a jap keyboard or something?
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>>62376944
no the regular one. current keyboard is in decent condition but keys have noticeable shines on them

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-New-IBM-Thinkpad-T420-T520-T520i-W520-W520i-Black-US-keyboard-45N2211-/302005081114?hash=item4650e7d41a:g:yqsAAOSw42dZCo8a
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>>62366873
have one myself, it's pretty neat but the case gets easily stained by fingers
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>>62376944
tfw all the jap keyboards for the t440p are sold out
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>>62376899
Thnak you anon. I read the guide but how much should a t430 with basic specs (4 ram, i5, 320g) be worth.
>>
max upgrade options for a t420?
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>>62377022
depends on where you live, also don't worry the t430 is upgradeable as fug so even if you get an i3 version you still have the option to end up with a quad core i7 on it.
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>>62377014
Where are you from? I have an unused weeb 440p keyboard laying around.
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>>62377164
japan
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>>62377167
fug it's $32 in shipping fees alone sending it to Japan.
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How are the x1 carbons? LIke the thinner laptops just wondering if it has good battery. Heard it charges 50% in half an hour, crazy.
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>>62377164
I'm from the US

Idk who the other anon is lol. How much do you want for it?
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Daily reminder to buy IBM ThinkPads only.
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>>62377014
there are two on aliexpress for $50
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what are the specs of an X61( 776254M) ?
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>>62377492
I live in Japan (Missouri)
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I bought a Thinkpad off Ebay from a top rated seller and he hadn't sent me any updates or tracking at all for a couple days. I contacted him and after a day he got me my tracking information.

It's been 3 days since and my tracking has been stuck at "Shipping Label Created, USPS Awaiting Item". The seller isn't in a hurricane area or anything and the item is apparently being shipped from literally the state right next to mine.

I feel like I'm being scammed, I bought it a week ago and his page said he'd ship within a day of purchase, I paid immediately. At the same time, he's a top rated seller so how can that be? I bought a bunch of shit for my Thinkpad to upgrade it after I bought my laptop and literally all of it has shipped and/or arrived before the laptop itself which I bought first with faster shipping, allegedly. Am I just really unlucky? The fuck is happening? I just want my memepad.
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>>62377819
Wait until the estimated delivery date passes then file a claim with Ebay.
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>>62377819
fill his inbox with pepes
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>>62377819
Spam that inbox bro, it could be the post office's fault. Sometimes they just don't scan packages properly.
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>>62366243
Hey everyone I need a bit of help in deciding. I'm planning on upgrading my i3 X240 to either an i5-5200U from an X250 or an i7-4600U from an X240. I do understand that the i7 would be about 10%-15% more powerful.

The thing is, I'll be using this primarily for audio production, and therefore the i7 with more threads would be obvious. However, the issue here is power consumption + RAM. Will the i5 last longer on battery compared to the i7, and also, can I upgrade to 16GB of RAM on the i5-5200U? I know the X240 motherboards top out at 8GB of RAM. Thanks TPG!!!
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>>62377888
Just to touch up a bit here, audio production is just what will need the most processing power. HTML and Java obviously don't really need much at all so that isn't a concern
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>want laptop
>find /TPG/ a week ago
>get x220 tablet
>install arch
>prepare anus to get touchscreen and sound and everything working
>it just werks, no real effort
>even autorotate works using the first script I found on AUR
Amazing. What do you guys have the thinkvantage button set to open?
>the only correct answer is a terminal
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>>62377888
all those processors have a tdp of 15w so battery life should be about the same

by the way can you even put a 5200u x250 motherboard on a x240? all these ulv processors are soldered to the boards
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>>62377937
>thinkvantage button to open terminal
bruh
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>>62377958
Yeah by replacing the mobo you're also replacing the processor. I'm not physically replacing the processor, fuck that lol. And you answered my question about battery life, thanks. Now it's just a matter of figuring out whether I want more RAM or more processor sigh
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>tfw using Telemetry 7 on my thinkpad
>tfw to dumb too ween off m$ dependence and into l337nux
time to kys myself
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>>62377994
I like Windows 7 so I'm fine with that tbqh.
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>>62377753
[email protected]

Email me when you get the chance so we don't shit up the thread
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>>62377971
I'd assign higher priority to getting an IPS or FHD IPS screen instead of processor or RAM though.
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>>62377819
It could be anything.

1. He's a lazy fuck and printed out the shipping label but hasn't given it to the post office.

2. They gave you the wrong tracking number.

3. The post office has the item but they have not scanned it. (This is kind of unlikely though considering it would go through at least 2-3 checkpoints before it got to you so there would be at least some change.)

4. It is a scam.

Listed in order of likeliness.
>>
>tfw nobody uses thinkpads in your computer science class
What happened to our youth?
>>
Why does no one talk about the W520? Isn't it the old school version of the P series? Do people not like them because of their large screens? I can generally find them around the price of if not cheaper than the T420 and the X220 is more expensive than that.
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>>62378039
I already have a 1080p screen :)
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>>62370043
Get a X230
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>>62371493
You're wrong though
It's all expresscard 2 which is pcie 2.0
Also
>X430
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>>62378466
that's because your school is shit

my school is top 5 in CS in the US and there's tons of Thinkpad users
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>>62377937
I did that too but I just can't unlearn my ctrl+alt+T reflex
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>>62378472
But anon we do talk about the W520
Just not as often as the smaller models
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>>62366243
>/tpg/: ThinkPad General
get AIDS and die faggot
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>>62378826
>Tfw most people in my cs class use gaymen laptops
>Tfw this one guy I know doesn't even gaym
>he just bought it for memes
Do I kill myself or does anyone wanna for me?
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>>62377819
I don't remember this frame from the show
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>>62378874
hello newfag please kindly kys
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Anyone here with a T440p running Arch or another distro? Are all the problems in pic related real? wtf?
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>>62379485
Just buy a macbook bro
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>>62379543
(You)
>>
What's a good linux distro for an X230. Thinking of moslty using it for VN reading on wine, playing old games and maybe emulation. Also I'm gonna install the distro in an SD Card since the HDD would be reserved for windows for work purposes.
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>>62380522
You do know the X230 has an mSATA slot?
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>>62380547
Yeah that was the plan originally but I'm strapped for cash right now so I'm using a 64 gb MicroSD lying around till I can get enough for an mSATA SSD.
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>>62380607
>current state of thinkpad owners
you can get a cheap one for like 50 bucks. You don't need a 500gb one, 64 is enough
>>
Guys I can't decide between a 15.6 and 17.3 screen.

What would you get? Please don't say neither, no other options available right now.
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Got some bios images here, will putting them in an imgur album fuck them?

If so, what host should I use?
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>>62371559
M-mind posting it?
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>>62380865
15.6".
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>>62380863

I know. I'll get one later if I find one locally. shipping and customs is a bitch when your from a 3rd world country. Anyway back to the distro.
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So i just got an x220, my first thinkpad

Gonna prob install gentoo unironically

Anything else i should do?
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W520 came without sound. Any place that stocks replacement internal speakers or do I just say fuck it and grab external ones/external sound card? I dont think I can get this fixed anywhere.
>>
Hey, I just got a refurbished ThinkPad and it has Intel AT and Computrace both set to "enabled" but "not activated". What exactly does that mean?
>>
>tfw third worlder
>friend scored a nice job with an American company
>they shower them with sick nasty T series thinkpads

Jelly.
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>>62381176
>Anything else i should do?
Learn the grammar?
>>
What kind of laptop should I look for to have the best processor for cheap? By best I also mean recent to have the best integrated graphic
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>>62381602
T570 costed 670$ with corporate discount(see OP) a while back. Check if the offers still available.... Other wise, just get a t430/x230 and enjoy.
>>
>go to an online store
>see the laptop I like
>says it's the last unit
>order it
>after they complete the order it doesn't say it's the last unit anymore

Did I just fuck myself over with a fucked up unit some nerd returned?
>>
>>62381736
Damn I'm still not sure I want to put so much money just for that hd620.. Maybe thinkpads are not a good choice for that now, since they're too expensive if not bought used etc..
At that price there's also the dell latitude and hp elitebooks to consider
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>>62366391
What is this? Looks solid
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>>62381509
Sry english is my third language
>>
>have a Surface Pro 4
>want a TP for toying around with kali

(cheap) recommendations?
>>
>>62382328
X220
>>
what's the opinion on the T5xx series thinkpads? Is there a reason to buy that over a T4xx?
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>The retro thinkpad is just going to be a t470 with a better keyboard
>it will still be 16:9
>apple, google, samsung, huwai, and microsoft all have god tier displays and aspect ratios
>lelnovo even has a 3:2 fucking thinkpad tablet
>no, your laptops are ok at 16:9 1080p in 2017 :^)
>>
>>62378472
You can't find them cheaper than the T420. Don't lie.
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>>62366243
>5 years old
>modern
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>>62382412
forgot to mention
>A475 and A275 aren't even going to be Ryzen/Vega based
>we have to wait until 2018 for that
>>
Just got a T470 with 72Wh battery. Feels good man.
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>>62380952
a booru? dunno

try uploading one, then downloading and flashing it to check if they get altered
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>>62382360
FHD
>>
I'm having what I believe motherboard problems with my T420 (fails to boot sometimes, turns off randomly, no logs, etc). I read somewhere that some Thinkpads have manufacture problems if they were made between September and December 2011.

Where can I find the date my Thinkpad was manufactured? Also if mine wasn't one of the unlucky ones, what could cause board issues? I've never treated my laptop badly. Also checked for battery and PSU and they're just fine.
>>
>>62374954
>>62381093
Try this one
https://mega.nz/fm/EzIxwQ6A
>>
My T430 has been doing great since I got it a month and a half ago. Only issue is the battery has really rocketed down charge-wise but I think thats because I left it in sleep mode too often.

Anyway, I was wondering what I could change/add/do to my Thinkpad to ""upgrade"" it. I have a shitty Sandisk SSD around but i'm not sure its worth the hassle of installing.
>>
>>62382815
post current specs or speccy if running windows
>>
I ordered a T470s a few days ago with the 1080p display. Is the color gamut really that bad or am I not going to notice it? I don't plan on doing photo/video editing or anything.
>>
>>62382412
> >The retro thinkpad is just going to be a t470 with a better keyboard
It'll be ULV?
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>>62382860
>>
>>62382901
https://www.notebookcheck.net/ThinkPad-25-Retro-ThinkPad-will-be-based-on-the-ThinkPad-T470.246216.0.html
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>>62382928
9cell battery
quad core processor
16gb ram
alienware mod for better viewing angles and colors
double or triple drives setup

Also yeah install that ssd, any ssd even a shit one will make a difference as the OS drive compared to hdds because of the faster access times.
>>
>>62382975

I was lucky enough to get the 9 cell included with the thinkpad so thats sorted until it dies on me.
I've been trying to find the Alienware and other alternative screens but best I can get is compatible so i've left those for now (not sure if its just a UK/EU lack of stock?)
>triple drives setup
tell me more
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>>62383078
msata ssd + hdd/ssd on main drive bay + hdd/ssd on optical drive bay
>>
>>62383097
ah, I forgot about msata, thanks for the help anon
>>
Should I disable CPU Power Management in the BIOS to fix my fan?
>>
What's the best 14 inch thinkpad for $300-500 with a 1080p screen?
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>>62383372
T440P.
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>>62383618
Does the display get bright and how is the battery life
>>
>>62383633
1080P IPS. It's not particularly good by IPS standards, but it's pretty bright and it'll smash a good TN out of the water.

Battery is good with 6cell, very good with 9cell. If you tinker a bit you can pull 8h from it on the i5s, and 6ish on the quadcores.
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>>62383689
I'll czech it out. Thanks homie
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>>62382005

Dell latitude E-series, shitier keyboard but always better screen than most thinkpads
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>>62366243
Are there black trackpoint caps available? I'd love to have a full-black keyboard
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>>62383714
I can't find my old post, but in a nutshell;

CPU - i5 dual, i7 dual, i7 quad. Middle is pointless, latter is marked with MQ. Easy to swap.

RAM - DDR3, two slots, both swappable.

Storage - one internal SATA 2.5 bay, one internal M.2 2242 SSD slot, optional one 2.5 drive in the DVD drive bay. It might not be clear where the drives in the one you're buying are, ask if you want to know.

Screen - 766p/900p TN, 1080p IPS. 1080 swap is cheap, not a big deal. B140HAN01.1, .2 or .3 are recommended. IIRC it's matte/glossy/semi-matte in that order.

Battery - 6cell or 9cell, later has a rear bulge. Worth it.

Trackpad - if you want the classic style, swap it for the T450 one.

Keyboard - modern Lenovo chiclet, can't be swapped unlike xx30 series. By chiclet standards it's pretty damn good though.

GPU - GT730M. Pretty much pointless, I'd avoid it. Can't be swapped without swapping the motherboard.

Anything else I'm missing? Going to format this into a nice copypasta at some point.
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HWG replacement 9-cell for the X220 or the 2x as expensive Lenovo OEM model?

Lenovo model seems to have slightly better wattage overall but the reviews are basically the same.


Anyone have any experience? My 9-cell that came with the thing is 30% healthy.
>>
for maximum autism, X60 or X200 or X220 ? already own T420.
>>
Where is the anon with the unused T440P japanese keyboard?

Still looking to buy it
>>
>>62383878
Not the same anon but thank you! I'm waiting on my T440P to arrive.
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>>62383817
no but you can color them baka
>>62383933
X200 is most comfy, X60 doesn't even hit 720x1280
>>
whats last thinkpad with ibm logo on it, X60 or X61?
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>>62384171
What should I use for coloring? spray?
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>>62384171
thx. just wanted that sweet IBM logo. reminiscent of my old T41
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>>62383937
That's me but i live in a third world shithole where shipping overseas is expensive so it wouldn't be worth it for you imo, see >>62377241

btw >>62377753 isn't me
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>>62384179
60
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>>62384214
くそ

I don't want to pay fiddy dollars for a keyboard but I guess I'll have to
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>>62384225
is there any way to put more modern mobo inside of X60 chassis?
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>>62384248
I put an X61s mobo in my X60s, I have no idea if the standard models are a drop in fit or not, but the s ones are for sure
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>>62384241
Sorry, i posted in the small chance you were an anon from this shithole as well posting here.

>I'll have to
is the weeb keyboard that important for you?

>>62384248
x62
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>>62384248
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Enthusiasts-bring-classic-ThinkPad-designs-to-the-modern-era.194630.0.html
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>>62383897
bls bespond

Current battery can't even handle light web browsing and text editing with wifi on - two hours of life w/ minimal screen brightness.

I can't even take it through a lecture.
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>>62383933
X60 for the 4:3 resolution and libreboot.
If you already have a T420 and use that as a daily driver, then theres no point getting the more powerfull devices.
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>>62384284
>>62384296
>>62384310
thanks goyim

>>62384332
yeah i think if i were to get x60, it would be for autism. but i feel like getting x60 and just using its chassis to get x62 mobo wount get you libreboot anyway. hmm

thanks goyim
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anyone tried one of those frankenpads? x62?
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>>62384296
It's not overly important but I want one.
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I just found out that the T440p I just bought has a charger with American plug, but I'm in Europe. Can I just buy the cable that goes from the plug to the "bulky" charger?
>>
what's the Thinkpad fan control equivalent on Linux?
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>>62385106
Yup, the brick can take 240V
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>>62385106
How much did you pay in burger bucks?
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>>62385451
Thanks!
What can I search if I want to buy that cable? If I search "thinkpad charging cable" I find all kinds of fucked up shit.
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>>62385606
aliexpress.com/item/cable/32570583379.html

this thing?
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>>62366470
Fin my how they shill the 440p while everyone knows that the 40 series had the worst touchpad lol.
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>>62385720
>i can't do a touchpad swap that requires removing four screws
brainlets go and stay go
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>>62385671
yeah, thanks!
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>>62385720
Because you can just swap it out for the one on the xx50, baka.

>>62383878
https://www.camerongray.me/2015/02/fitting-physical-trackpoint-buttons-to-a-lenovo-thinkpad-t440s
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>>62385825
>https://www.camerongray.me/2015/02/fitting-physical-trackpoint-buttons-to-a-lenovo-thinkpad-t440s
That shit sounds like an entire disassembly.

On the T440p is way easier, just remove the backplate (2 screws), the palmrest (7 or 8 screws) and replace the touchpad (4 screws) which is a component of the palmrest. Reassemble and done.
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>>62386019
Thanks anon, wasn't aware of the difference. Thrown that in the pasta.
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What am I looking at as far as battery life for 6 cell vs 9 cell for T440P
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>>62387221
about three extra cells
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>>62387221
2.5 hours vs 4.5 hours
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>>62386851
>Thrown that in the pasta.
make it cute like this one >>62318690
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