/tpg/ Thinkpad General

when a nigga bust a nut on that soft rim

>>62332668
shutup

Are the thinkpad tablet models any good? I kinda want one.

How T440/T450 compares to T420/T430 in terms for performance, heat, battery life?

I guess all the /TPG/ people are off to school.

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>>62332659
A couple of days ago I posted about buying a T60 that appeared to have a T7300.
As far as i can tell, it was originally a T61 CTO model that someone put a T60 SXGA+ lid / screen on.
The fan sounds like death and the frame is cracked near the left hinge, but it's pretty neat otherwise.

>>62332685
They're alright if you're talking about the old -t models. Work like any normal pressure-sensitive tablet.
If you're talking about the "thinkpad" tablets lenovo put out, they're shit.

>>62332796
I'd take a T430 over a T440 unless maybe you get a T440P. So basically I'd go T430 or T450 if you want to spend more.

Or you could go T420 if your an autist about the keys and layout and don't mind sandy bridge.

my condolences to the thinkpad ptsd guy who's dad died trying to keep it pure

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this won't work on the x200 tablet will it? The seller has it listed as if it will, but it seems like it definitely won't.

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>>62332881
He fought well against the chinks

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reposting from last thread
got it today and I'm in love.
the lid is scratched and worn but the overall condition is pretty good and considering I got it for 20€ I'm extremely happy. DOS games are so fucking comfy on this.

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This arrived and I can't find any of my bloody isopropyl to clean off my CPU. Oh well, I'll swap in a couple days and post results.

>>62332873
Shit, sorry about that opinion bud

>>62332925
X200T = X200 tablet.
Although I thought the batteries didn't interchange between the 200 and 200t. Might want to look up the fru's

>>62332925
batteries are NOT compatible between X200 and X200t. Defilinty

>visit /tpg/
>sell MacBook Air (at a ridiculously high price, fucking eBay peasants...) to get some money to buy a used ThinkPad
>Fall for the meme
>Buy a T440s with Core i7 4600U, 8GB Memory, 256GB SSD, Full HD IPS panel, WiFi ac network, UMTS, smart card reader and what not for a measly 350$
>Machine is in excellent condition
>Hate the thing at first
>Now love it.

Seriously, this is one of the best decisions I have ever made. I managed to sell my MacBook air which was twice as old and cost half as much for more money than I paid for the ThinkPad. I've used the difference to buy more RAM (It now has 12GB which is the max supported) and I swapped the ISO keyboard for an ANSI one.

The machine is fucking excellent. Love the screen, love the keyboard, the only thing about it that sucks is the touchpad, but that's fine since I use a mouse whenever I can anyway.

>>62333157
>touchpad
you can put in the T450 touchpad with dedicated buttons

>>62333157
iirc, you can swap the touchpad for one from the T*50 series that actually has usable trackpoint buttons.

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>>62332659
Sorry for the dumb question.
Why it is always the X220 and the T420 being recommended, rather than the xx30's?
From what I gather the latter have largely better hardware and I/O.
Is the new keklet keyboard that much of a dealbreaker? Are there anymore issues that should change my mind about looking for an X230?

>>62333200
No, get the x230

>>62333200
>better hardware
yes
>better I/O
I/O is almost identical except all 30 series models have USB 3.0. You decide if it's worth it.
>keyboard dealbreaker
not really. the layout is completely fucked up but the typing experience is pretty much the same. Also you can swap is with a 20 series keyboard and use a modded BIOS to get everything to work.

If you want a Thinkpad from that era, I'd say you should get a 30 series. You're not gonna regret choosing better graphics and USB 3 over the original keyboard.

>>62333244
Agreed. The biggest problem I have with the 30 keyboard is that the function keys aren't grouped in four so it's really hard to find them in the dark without backlight or thinklight. On the 40 series they started grouping them again.

>>62333244
Not him, but I'm trying to justify saving $100 on a t430 rather than spending it on a t450. Any reason why I shouldn't go for the 450?

My x201 lcd panel is broken. I already changed the keyboard and the battery so I feel like I've already "invested" some bucks in this machine.
I find replacement parts for around 70USD (converted from my local currency)
However, for 2.5 times the price I can safely land an honest thinkpad x220 (not counting the battery change and the newer keyboard I'd buy for comfiness).
Should I repair my current one or is it a dead horse (b-but muh 16:10) and I'd be better off getting the last generation of real thinkpad with a decent keyboard?

>>62333244
Does the 20 series keyboard mod fix the ctrl and fn keys placement? iirc that was an issue with it a while a go.

>>62333303
>less stable chassis
>ULV CPU
>no dedicated volume buttons (though there's more than enough room to fit them so removing them was a completely unjustified decision)
>grey chassis instead of proper thinkpad black (I know, that's subjective but I think it looks like shit)

>>62333322
I think there are 2 different versions of the BIOS mod, one that switches them and one that doesn't.

>>62333339
AFAIK it's a bios option.

How important is a finger print reader to you?

>>62332824
It's Saturday. No classes. Time for Chem 201 homework.

>>62333369
I heard it's fixed in the mod BIOS so you have to decide before you flash the BIOS

>>62333379
Not very, I got one on my P40 Yoga and I havent used it.

>>62333395
That sucks.

Would a x60 be a good pickup? Can it run most daily tasks?

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>>62333244
Interesting.
But in that case, why would the OP say xx20 rather than xx30? Asking because I do believe I will fuck around with parts and I somehow got the impression that the xx20 are the ones for which there's the biggest second hand parts market.
Is that true?

>>62333438
The 20 and 30 series use the same chassis except for the palmrest. Most parts are interchangable so the market for used parts is basically the same for both of them. I don't know if you can swap boards between them but the internal components that are swappable will work on both gens.

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Although this looks tempting^

>>62333422
Libreboot it and install gentoo

>>62333477
T430 has different port layout, needs its own chassis

Probably a dumb question, but a friend recently gave me his T60 and kept the hdd. So now it doesn't have any. Can I use any 2.5 inch sata hdd to replace it?

been looking for a PC3-14900 1866mhz 16gb kit for my x220 for under 90, anyone find any?

>>62333422
Just got an X61 and I can tell you, laptops from that generation are still very capable. If you can deal with the 1024x768 resolution, go for it. It feels like it was made from Duke Nukem's balls and it runs Xubuntu 32bit just fine. Also you get your freedumbs back if you want to.

>>62333635
Didn't know that. I got both an X220 and an X230 and as far as I can see the I/O layout is identical.

>looking at t430 on ebay
>notice some with nvidia 5400
>at least $200 more
y

>>62333641
yes

>>62333641
Yes. Use an SSD. It's gonna be faster.

>>62333339
>>62333395
Thanks I'll order the x230, what would be the easiest way to ask the seller to see if it has an IPS screen?

>>62333690
Something like
"Hey, does this have an IPS display?"

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>tfw you run your finger around the soft rim trackpoint

which gen of processor should I take with the thinkpad? I will play League of legends and normie stuff.
don't need great graphics a intel hd graphics would run league at low setting which is enough for me

>>62333766
You're late...

>>62333772
Probably to be on the safe side, at least for a few years, probably a Core iX processor. i5 will be enough and an i7 will definitely keep you going. But the i7 will get hotter and use more battery and that might be a concern. I wonder if a Core 2 Duo would suffice. It can handle my emulators so I don't see why it couldn't run Lol.

>>62332958
Is that what people talk about when they say "intelligent design"?

>>62333772
Gen 3, Ivy Bridge. X230 is most likely gonna satisfy you.
>>62333766
mfw you aren't the first post
>>62333641
yes
>>62333200
xx30 series is superior honestly especially because USB 3.0, you can still install the classic keyboard after a little modding

>>62333826
i bought x220 because it can support classic keyboard. 230 can not support it fully which pisses me off, modding gets you an only partially functioning classic keyboard.

>>62333805
So are you advising against getting an i7 in a t420/t430?

What's /tpg/'s opinion on the T440p

I'm about to pull the trigger

>>62333883
Do it, I want to hear from someone else about the trackpad who isn't a thinkpad purist

does 9cell in respect to a thinkpad x220 mean the extended one. a listing says it comes with 9cell battery so i am wondering if it is extended. And if so how many cells is the none extended.

>>62333883
>>62333906
Replace the track pad if you're going to use the track point at all. It's completely unusable otherwise.

>>62333866
Not entirely. It will be stronger but the battery life might not be as good. If you travel a lot, that might be a concern but if you get a really good genuine battery, it might not be an issue.

I have an i7 in my W520 but I haven't put it through it's paces yet. Also the battery is only 50% of it's original capacity.

anyone know of any actually ibm branded thinkpads that had a 16:9 display.

I changed the shit trackpad of my T440p and now the fucking thing won't boot. It just beeps. What could it be?

Also in case the thing is dead, is a x220 with an i5 still cutting it?

>>62333987
I will be using it at school quite a bit. I suppose I'm wanting an i7 more because it's already an older computer and would like to get the most out of it.

>>62332873
this

>>62334091
I say go for it. Pretty much all the i7 line will have hyperthreading. So even a dual core will be a quad core and a quad core will be an eight core. It's more complicated than that of course but you get the idea. Depending on what school work you need it for, an i7 will serve you well for pretty much anything ordinary and probably extra ordinary too.

any links to the people that put modern thinkpad hardware into old ibm thinkpads. A perfect 16:9 one to put into would probably be the z60t

>>62334131
You don't think the heat and battery life from the i7 will be problematic compared to the i5?

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>>62333883
If you don't use the clitmouse, it's absolutely great.

Last Thinkpad with a swappable CPU, too.

Looking for a charger. Will one from eBay do fine ?

>>62334178
Most likely yes. If you can, try to find a genuine one. Chink fake chargers tend to get hot. I used one and it almost set my carpet on fire.

>>62334060
no

>>62334169
I'm so used to using trackpads, especially trackpads without actual buttons, I just don't know how I feel about the full click/depression of the entire trackpad

Help me out here, I'm on the verge of the t440p and the t430

>>62334208
Thank you

>>62334163
I honestly couldn't say as I don't have an i5 ThinkPad model. I have a dual core i7 and a quad core i7. The dual core has pretty decent battery life and it's a tablet version so it might be draining the battery more. But my x200 tablet, which is a Core 2 Duo, can last for 5-6 hours on a chink battery.

The i7 does get a bit hotter. I notice it when sitting on the toilet and it's on my bare legs. The thing is that it gets to a base heat and stays there when doing browsing the web or doing some picture editing and only goes down if you go idle or set it to sleep. It's not like burning my skin but it's hot enough to make me break a sweat. Then again it could be from shitting too

>>62334248
z60t

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So the T440p has two M.2 ports, one is for the Wireless card with 1x PCIE connection and the other (for SSD) is SATA based. The latter cannot run an eGPU but the other potentially can. I was thinking about trying it out and seeing if it will work and if it will I will 3D print some components and cut a hole into the bottom plate and have the eGPU socket mounted on the bottom like how the dock socket is then incorporate the eGPU connection into the docking station. I haven't seen anybody trial and error it and an eGPU kit is only around $80 so I think I will try it, worse case scenario I can repurpose the kit to my X220. Anyone else considering or done any mods?

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>>62334288
Just swap it. I like this one, but there's nothing wrong with the other style. I came off a 2010 Macbook Pro.

You can also shove a quad core processor in this one, plus I think it's easier to get the 1080 screens for this one.

It's also bigger, which might be a negative for you.

Anything else?

>>62334307
>z60t
No, that's 1280x800 16:10

>>62334307
lenovo ThinkPad

they already took over at x40 and t40 iirc
which means z60t was manufactured by lenovo but had IBM branding

>>62334336
Thanks, you've assured me then. I'm used to a 2010 macbook pro as well which is what I'll be replacing. Would you say it's pretty comparable? If so then I'm going to lean more towards the t440p and just opt for a mouse most of the time.

The t440p is bigger than the t430 though?

>>62334327
egpu killed my southbridge on my w530 motherboard, had to reflow and replace it, not worth risk. Buy desktop for pcie graphics cards.

>>62334400
what was your setup exactly?

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>>62334336
Yeah, I meant that mine was bigger. It's completely usable, as long as you install the Lenovo drivers for the trackpad. It lets you set up what areas activate what, so you can screw around a bit.

In terms of overall feel, I love having a trackpad that needs the same force to press in anywhere on it. I definitely wouldn't trade it for the x50 model, but it was a weird switch at first. That option is always open though, so if you don't like this one you can just use the classic style instead.

How much should I pay for a T440p?

Planning on bidding on one but I don't wanna pay more than I should

>>62334589
300 tops

>>62334589
List of shit worth keeping an eye out for;

Obvious ones, RAM/storage/Windows key.

6cell vs 9cell battery

One M.2 slot for SSDs, one internal SATA + disk drive SATA for HDD/SSD. Sellers normally don't list what type their storage is, might be worth asking.

Two RAM slots, neither are soldered.

1080 IPS option, rare but worth getting. Screen swaps are possible though.

Backlit vs nonbacklit keyboard, backlit one apparently has less travel so I'd avoid it.

CPU is swappable, 4700MQ and up are best. If not, get anything and swap it for a quad if needed. Dual i7s are a waste, 4712MQ or something like that has the same wattage as the i5s but has quad cores.

GT730 is an option, but it's not worth bothering.

If you have an i7 and it runs hot, you can swap the heatsink for the dGPU model.
>>62332968
Should help, I'll know for sure in a couple of days.

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I just bought a thinkpad. Is this really associated with owning one? I think I made a mistake and maybe should return it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVrQdz_x9hs

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>>62334679
Hits me hard in the feels, I'm fat, friendless, thinkpad user, virgin, woman, nolife, mac hating, retarded, small dick, masturbated, machating dog shit mother of toilet.

>>62334671
Thank you so much!

>>62334747
>woman
>small dick
wait a sec...

best thinkpad for programming?

>>62334679
>host name is name of OS
>sudo apt-get love
>apt on gentoo
>no install command
>"repository "love" not found"

animator is obviously a macfag

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>>62334776
>>62334776
thinkpad x220

>>62334776
ThinkPad X220 Tablet

>>62333883
Tbh 90% of the responses you'll get will shit on it for the trackpad. But it seems moot considering it is replaceable. I'd like to hear the criticisms of the T440p after the trackpad swap.
Anything else is effectively strawmanning the machine.

>>62334754
No problem, I wish you the best of luck in your search.

>>62334879
The viewing angles on the IPS screen are bad, and the screen bezel is a bit flimsy. It's not going to break or anything, but it flexes. I don't really have any other complaints, it's a lovely machine.

>>62333883
I want the T440s even though I already have the T430.

I like that it's slimmer and the clicky trackpad looks neat. Only concern if it moves around to much while trying to tap to click and battery life.

>>62334830
>>62334847
>1366x768
LUL

>>62334879
The only caveat on the 440p is the track pad. It's a damn good machine otherwise.

>>62334925
>>making fun of x220 screen res in /tpg/
LUL

>>62334925
>complaining about 768p
>on a 12.5 inch screen
>in a laptop so inexpensive I would not care if I left it on a park bench in the noggiest part of town

>>62334951
>>62334925
There wouldn't be a reason to make fun of that resolution anyways. That's 120PPI and it requires no scaling on a 12" screen. A higher resolution would lead to scaling and no more screen real estate.

It's shit for programming though. 14" 900p would be better.

i paid $508 for an x220 today, ama.
Specs: 2640 i7, 8gb ddr3, 320gb 5600rp , 9cell, camera

>>62334991
I just have the one question, fuck off.

>>62334991
why the fuck

>>62334987
>14" 900p
Then get an i7 T410 and add more ram

>>62334991
Is that $508 US?
Are you in the US?
If both of those answers are "yes", you fucked up.

>>62334987
>not 14" 1080p

eyelets, baka

>>62334776
any with 14" 1600x900 screen, so T420/T430

>>62335084
Scaling makes Linux shit so it's not worth it.

>>62334991
did it because all the 2640s on ebay were gone in the non tablet form. Defeats purpose of it being cheap ik.

>>62335084
losing eyesight before 30 is not fun

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Guys help, this is the third thinkpad I've gotten this year, and the second one this week. Surprised how good of a condition it is in for 65 bucks. Installed the ssd I found in the X200t and kept the other hdd I bought. What is this smart card thing? It looks like a card reader.

>>62335107
100% scaling at that size/res is completely readable.

I ordered an x230 and was seemingly on time to its destination until it stopped in a warehouse in Florida, now it's been stuck there for two days... Is it fucked?

>>62335107
Scaling?

>>62335135
sim card modem

>>62335132
I got shit eyesight from birth but I'm gonna laser the shit out of my eyes next year to get 20/20

>>62335175
usually the resolution and display size in combination determine the size of text, icons, etc on your screen. with scaling you run a high resolution screen at native resolution but make everything larger to be sharper and more readable. it's shit on linux though and windows lags behind too

>>62335161
The hurricane. Hopefully it isn't near the coast. Pretty much everything is stopping today and people are hunkering down just to stay alive so there probably isn't anything leaving that state except people

>>62335135
http://www.identiveusa.com/express-card-reader-scr3340.htm
Looks like one of these.

>>62335161
anon i'm so sorry

>>62335205
smart card reader*

>>62334671
>>62334589

As someone who bought a barebones T440p (TN, 1366x768 panel), 4GB ram, 500GB HGST TravelStar drive, i5 4300M. It might be worthwhile buying a very low spec one then upgrading it. The 1080p IPS panel can be had for $60-$130 easily and is ridiculously easy to replace. The main thing for a T440p I'd say to be a deciding factor is whether you want the GT 730M or not because the rest is a very easy and cheap swapout. If you're after good performance and good battery life consider sticking it an i5 model and getting a 9cell battery. BE WARNED: Genuine batteries manufactured by Sanyo for the T440p are garbage and the cells die quick.

Who have that meme with a t430 and t230 burning and 2 pepes (t420 and t220) laughing.

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>>62335356

>>62335409
>>62335356
I don't understand

>>62335409
Thank you, anon.

>>62335409
I don't get it

>>62335415
What you don't understand, my nigga?

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In process removing bios pw from toughbook cf52. This is what the pos looks like inside.
Removed cmos battery and about to put it all back together, hopefully without pw.

>>62335409
Is the second one down an issue with battery DRM?

And you can just swap the keyboard anyways

>>62335336
Are there any good genuine/knockoffs? I'm using a genuine 9c from Lenovo that I got off Amazon UK.

>>62335336
Thanks, I think I'm about to do the same thing. As much as I would love i7, I'll take the battery life of i5 and swapping out the 500 gb hdd for a ssd and maxing out ram

>>62335451
The joke.

>>62335506

Yes, it happens with non genuine batteries and when people replace the cells inside of the battery incorrectly which blows a fuse in the circuit inside the battery rendering it inoperable permanently.

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>>62332873

>>62335572
What's the price of the one you're looking at?

>>62335740
$250 locally

>>62335534

For the price of a 9cell I honestly prefer to just buy them genuine from Lenovo during their coupon sales, I picked up a 9cell genuine 57++ for $130 recently. I know the price is steep but I rather pay that than to pay $50-$90 for one that's most likely had it's cells replaced with inferior ones or it's a straight up knock off. At least with the Lenovo one you have warranty with it. 6 cell ones are cheap enough to take the risk IMO

>>62335758
Good I thought you were looking at the same one I was

>>62335788
How much is the one you're looking at? Lower?

>>62335495
Only problem is, AFAIK BIOS password is stored in non-volatile

Does anyone have any other recommendations other than the x230? Or should I just buy one? My main use is for reading PDF files, coding, and web browsing. Preferably all at the same time.
Keyboard layout looks horrid compared to the x220. I'm open to swapping it, but I'll mainly be using an external keyboard.
It seems that swapping out the screen would be a benefit, however I was reading that some people had problems with the resolution of the screen for coding.
Any advice would be appreciated. My budget is around $200. Battery life is definitely a concern as well.

>>62335772
Mine was £73, the reviews said it was legit and the packaging all looked legit to me as well. No issues so far.

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the resolution on my x220 is anus. convince me not to buy a t440s

>>62335961
i own a 4k p51 and an x220, use x220 more for fun.

>>62335961
Correction: The screen real estate you get is anus. The resolution is 120ppi which is a decent density.

>>62335909
Bought one. Can confirm 1366x768 is ass for coding and web browsing. Unfortunately I had to settle with it since it's IPS, otherwise I'd have to deal with the T430's piss TN screen.

Keyboard is great though desu, you're still doing better than most modern laptops.

>>62335913

Got a link to it? How many cycles has yours done so far? Wear percentage? watt hours?

>purchase ThinkPad T430 from eBay on Sep 2
>seller still hasn't shipped
>contacted three times, no response

Is it time to report fraud to eBay and PayPal and try to get money back?

The seller had 100% rating from several hundred buyers, yet this still happened.

>>62332968
I just use cologne lol

>>62336207
what's the estimated shipping time/date?

>>62336235
Estimated arrival was Sep 8.

>>62336193 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00FJA3KPS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_t8dTzbY7QWYHP

Price has gone up a bit. Can't remember off the top of my head, but >50 cycles and it's lost about 1% total iirc.

>>62336258
Yeah, it's worth a shot, eBay pretty much always sides with the buyer

>libreboot for X220 on the horizon
>T440p slowly creeping down to around 170$, with a massive dump around the corner

we live in a wonderful time

>>62336260

Nice, would you mind screencapping the battery values in lenovo settings/battery gauge or in hwinfo64? if it's not to much to ask I just like to pull together resources for legitimate products

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>tfw no fucking libreboot or even coreboot for X61
why... why?

new thinkpads being bad is a meme, T470s is so much fucking better than the x220

>>62336387
ULV CPUs are a scam

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>>62336364
Because the superior T500/W500 exist.

>>62336431
that looks like cancerplated tank desu

>>62336431
The only thing I can say against this generation is that the audio jacks are in front. Just terrible design choice.

>>62336431
>unused buttplug
>keurig

try getting some taste

>>62336431
How the fug do you get Linux to look like that

Also what distro

>>62336517
I can't tell you what he's using but it's pretty easy with XFCE and the Chicago 95 theme. No big deal.

>>62335961
The T440s is actually a pretty nice fucking machine. Make sure to get the Full HD panel. I have the LG panel which is supposedly worse than the AUO one and, while it does have some brightness and light bleeding (typical IPS style) issues, they are nowhere near as bad as some people on the lenovo forums make them out to be and the display is actually pretty fucking good. I'd say about as good as a retina MBP display. Resolution might be lower but damn that color accuracy.....

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>>62336467
Thanks?

>>62336495
True, however, the X200 doesn't have this problem.

>>62336513
It was new at the time of taking that picture, now it's well used (By my girlfriend). I don't see the problem with keurigs tho.

>>62336517
>>62336534
OpenBox, LXPanel, and a lot of custom themeing. Will say I pretty much just stole Chicago95 and modified it slightly for my GTK3 theme. GTK3 is a bitch...

Is the x60 worth it? I just hope I don't inhibit myself from doing stuff on it because it's old

So I'm guessing the question would be is can an x60 do normal day shit?

>>62336346
Sauce on the dump?

>x220 screen has weird resolution but can have IPS display
>x201 screen has normal resolution but stuck with TFT display
Which option is worse? bad display or bad resolution?

I am confusedguys....

Want to use eGPU setup in the future due to traveling a lot and the cables don't look like a total bomb in my handluggage.

x220 with i7 - shit express card?
x230 with i7 - better express card later panel 1080p swap
or T420 - moddable to death, panel swap, bios mod, cpu ti ivy QM
or T430 - simple cpu swap and panel

They are all in the same price range. I know the T420 and T430 can get their CPU upgraded... to a 35W i7 36xxQM?
Is it worth the hassle with the bigger models for the real Quad upgrade or not?

I use IBM SPSS, browser, PDF reader, Radio, mediaplayer on shared tablet

or should I just calm my tits get a x230 with a nice i7 8GB 128GB SSD, change the panel in the future to 1080p and buy the eGPU now?

>>62336697
you can mod 1080p screen to the x220, nitrocaster

>>62335849
I'm looking at one for $200

Any Euros (preferably French) have experience with importing one from Merica? How hard did they fuck you on customs?

>>62336771
your better off going there on holiday and getting a second hand one...

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>X60 now costs as much as X220

WHERE DID I GO WRONG I LOST A FRIEND

T440 master race COMING THROUGH.

>>62332659
do you guys use smoothscrolling?

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Just bought this T440p for $200 how did I do?

It's my first pad. Also tfw my sticker might come in on the same day too

>>62334769
triggered

>>62335135
why do amerifats get thinkpads so cheap FUCK

>>62336846
>1366x768

you dun goofed.

I got a T440s with a Core i7 4600U, Full HD display, 12GB of Memory and 256GB SSD for 350 shekels.

>>62336864
Most americans are brainlets and think thinkpads are worthless

>>62336864
they spend their money on 200k ambulance rides

>>62336787
gonna fucking KILL myself, fdp want 350 euros for a refurbished T420 here

>>62336868
>t440s
>not t440p
You done goofed

Does the Thinkpad 390 keyboard buttons work on the x200 keyboard?

I wanted to replace some buttons.

>>62336145
Do you think doing the FHD mod on an x230 would be worth it? I'm going to look into the T series since it has the better resolution and better battery life. Really trying to keep the screen under 15". Then figure out which would be best.

>>62336868

>T440s
you dun goofed

>>62336846
you dun well anon. putting a 1920x1080 IPS panel in it is a 5 minute job and can g et the panel for $60-$130. it can take up to 16GB DDR4L 2133MHz ram and down the road you can throw a quadcore 4700MQ or 4800MQ into it.

>>62337027
ayy

I'm so excited to join this cult. Can Windows 8 be upgraded to 10 still for free?

I'm planning on dual booting until I get the hang of Linux

Can I use EasyBCD to dual boot a thinkpad with a locked BIOS?

>>62337057
Also how good is the T440p for light /g/ayman

>>62335336
I would go for the bare bones then upgrade if I wasn't after the GT730m for light gaymen.
Market for those are smaller and among them are largely higher spec. So I've found that it's more competitive to try find a fully kitted out one at a good price.

I'll be looking for IPS, 9 cell and 8GB (min). I think all dGPU SKUs have an i7. I'm looking to ultimately put a lower watt quad-core in it though.
As for HD, probably seek an SSD out myself to buy separately.

Might be worth considering to get a HDD fitted T440p because it might come with some mounting brackets that could be of use in the future.

Want to get an x61t because of the 4:3 screen and the twisty touchy, but the lack of power in the CPUs scares me. Should I still buy it?

>>62337075
HD4600. I'm playing Flatout 1 comfortably at 1080p on mine, and you can emulate pretty well too.

>>62334671
>One M.2 slot for SSDs, one internal SATA + disk drive SATA for HDD/SSD

You're saying that they tend to omit the nature of the interface on their SSD or HDD T440p listing yeah?

>Live in india
>people know the worth of these god tier machines
>have to pay almost double of what I'd pay in 'murica to get one
shitsux lads

>>62337057

Yes: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade You may as well upgrade it because Windows 8 is a piece of crap anyway.

>>62337075

It's perfectly adequate for simple games. Just google HD 4600 and the game. Bonus is the iGPU is incredibly efficient so even gaming on the 9cell battery provides ample gaming time.

>>62333200
My boss bought an X230 on my recommendation.

Yesterday he thanked me by saying "It has proven itself in battle"

...he spent 7 hours a day on his holiday on that laptop. So aggressive typing and mouse usage.

Personally, I'm getting an X200 soon, """downgrading""" from my X220, but I don't need the trackpad (only use the trackpoint) and I only work with WPS (word alternative) and zathura to work

>>62337156
Yep.

>>62332659
i replaced my thinkpad 420 screen with an IPS display and it still looks like fucking ass compared to my macbook or chromebook pixel

time to switch back i guess

>>62337176
Thank you!

/tpg/ is a lot more helpful than I thought it would be.

>>62337164

Just steal one in a designated shitting street while someone is taking a designated shit

>>62335107
Linux is already shit.

>>62336938
just buy it of ebay famaln. Fuck refurbished. get it with the lowest hardware at the lowest price possible then upgrade bit by bit.

>>62337202
>i replaced my thinkpad 420 screen with an IPS display
>ips
no you didn't

>>62336795
>soldered ulv shit
>master race
xdd

I have fucked up, /tpg/

>buy X220
>think it'll be my daily driver
>it is my daily driver
>get plan for 10GB and 2 sim cards
>"Welp, one will go into the laptop!"
>order a WWAN card
>look on eBay the next day
>"X200 for sale"
>no touchpad
>no bullshit
>safe processor
>want it
>buy it
>WWAN card won't fit in it (source: thinkwiki)

Wat do? Should I find another WWAN card? Will the Gobi3000 work?

>>62334069
You need to flash a different BIOS. I'm not sure which one, someone will know. Also, yeah probably. The X220s are great.

>>62337107
Please /g/
I would probably be using it mainly for programming in node.js, but also for some occasional 3D modeling and gaming

>>62337460
>You need to flash a different BIOS. I'm not sure which one, someone will know.
stop spreading fud fagboi, the touchpad mod just werks without needing to do anything aside from replacing the touchpad and drivers so he probably fucked up a connection or a cable.

t. fgt who did that mod

Is it possible to upgrade a T420 with coreboot to i7-3632QM? and is it worth it?

>>62337525

yepp

>>62334069

you most likely haven't plugged it in properly. try reseating it's connections.

>>62337540

yes and it is worth it if you need the better iGPU and CPU power.

>>62337513
>programming
OK
>3D modeling
Nigga I don't know if this shit will work well.
>gaming
Naaaaah. Unless you understand gaming as Dwarf fortress and WarGames (for that leet haxor feel), you're fucked.

Where do I find someone that can flash my T420 to coreboot in the UK South-West

And how much should it cost?

>>62332659
where do you fags buy your replacement nipples from? are soft rims worth it?

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>>62337197
Why not X201 with an x201 palmrest? I just converted my tablet today.

>>62337698
Aliexpress or eBay and yes soft rim is the best cap. Everyone who disagrees is a massive faggot.

>>62337107
You do realize that the X61t is a ten year old business device, right?
It's not a gaming PC. You will not be doing 3D modeling, and there's no way in hell that you'll be playing any games newer than 2000.

>>62337718
>converted
Don't understand that.
>why not X201
Because I found the whole set (laptop, charger & ultrabase) for 98$. Best deal of my life (if the laptop is in good condition)

>>62337767
>converted
Exchanged the trackpad-only X201t palmrest for a non-trackpad x200t palmrest.

>>62337784
Oh, I see. Wow, didn't know that was possible.

Still, I snapped the thing for 98$ with shipping of everything, so I'm feeling good.

>>62336579
I see you upgraded the RAM since the last time I saw a post of yours

A question to all you happy X200 campers:

What does AFFS stand for? Is it worth the upgrade if I work outdoors a lot?

>>62337974
Also, what is the SATA interface like? Will an SSD boot fast? I saw Luke Smith's video on them and it looks snappy, but if it's sata2, it should be a little slower, shouldn't it?

>>62337974

Advanced fringe field switching

>>62337974
>AFFS

Advanced Fringe Field Switching is a technology similar to IPS offering superior performance and color gamut with high luminosity. Color shift and deviation caused by light leakage is corrected by optimizing the white gamut, which also enhances white/grey reproduction.

Advantages
Excellent colour performance
Wide viewing angles
Selectronic picture required


Disadvantages
Complex production process.
Higher production costs.

>>62338066
>>62338064
Love you guys! Thank you!

>>62338066
Thanks for the write-out! AFFS it is, then! It's not even that expensive where I see it (from China for 1000CZK - ~50$)

What is the comfiest trackpoint cap to use, /tpg/?

>>62338154
Soft rim

>>62338154
Don't listen to >>62338178
Listen to >>62332873

>>62338061
It barely makes a difference in day to day use. The reason why SSD feels so fast is low access times, not transfer speeds.

>>62338198
OK, so it will be similar to my X220, from what I gather.

I don't plan on turning the X200 off that often, so boot times are null.

>>62338061
>but if it's sata2, it should be a little slower, shouldn't it?
please stop spreading this retarded normalfag shit, you only need sequential transfers when moving or copying files from an ssd to another ssd or something that can handle sata3 speeds. >>62338198 is right

>>62338154
soft rim

>>62338221
Well that's why I'm asking, to stop being a normie piece of shit. Thanks!

>tfw 3.0Gbps = ~400MBps

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>tfw bought a T420
>cheap as fuck, reliable, customizable
>turned it into a monster ultrabook for way less than half the price

Feels good falling for the meme

>>62336795
>T440
>literally the shittiest thinkpad excluding budget L, E, Yoga and shit
>master race
condescending_anime_girl.webp

>>62337283
ha i wish, sons of whores dont have it like that, it's always some overpriced turd with 5000 bios passwords/dead pixels

>>62338304
what are your specs now? Did you go for real Quad?

>>62338319
What's wrong with it?

Also who are you quoting?

>>62338304
>T420
>turned it into a monster ultrabook
>t420 ultrabook
wut

>>62336579
Can you share the wall ?
Gtk theme is Windows Classic or Chicago95 ? And for openbox ?

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>mfw finallygot around swapping the chinklet keyboard on my T430 to xx20 one
I feel at home again
Why are older thinkpad keyboards so comfy?

could someone link me a video that shows you how to disassemble an x60t? I need to find out if mine is librebootable

>got used to my FHD IPS T440p
>anything lower than FHD on 14" looks like shit
fug i guess i made a mistake getting used to fhd when everyone in this third world shithole is using 1366x768

>>62338474
Why not use a manual?

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How much should a FHD IPS T450s cost?

>>62338571
because i'm a retard who will fuck it up if I don't have a visual guide

>>62333845
Only the caps lock light doesn't work due to the xx30 no having the pin for it
That's it really

>>62338584
get a t440p and swap out the panel

>>62338592
Oh no you won't. It's just turning screws, seriously. I managed to unscrew my X220 down to the Wifi card without a guide.

>>62333668
Idiots think housefires sell
Don't buy into the 40nm gpu meme

Are the USBs active on the laptop itself when connected to a dock?

I'm trying to figure out the reason why someone would want a Pro Dock over a Basic dock.

>>62338623
I don't know the construction of an X220, but isn't a wifi card usually the first thing that comes out excluding a keyboard?

>>62338636
Depends on the laptop model, as for myself, yes, the USB ports on my X220 work great.

What's the difference between a pro and basic dock?

>>62338636
>only a vga and no 3.5mm jack
yeah nah

>>62338651
I think I had to remove the palmrest as well. But after that it's smooth sailing. Where do you need to get to to find out if it's librebootable?

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>x230

Tell me how badly I fucked up...

>>62336579
Flash the bios remove password ?

On Britbong Amazon:

"Lenovo ThinkPad T430 i5-3320M 2.6GHz 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD DVDRW 14.1 WXGA++ 1600x900 Webcam Windows 10 Pro 64 bit WiFi Grade A (Certified Refurbished) "

Is this good value for £330?

>>62338784
fuck no, they should be 250 dollars best, pass hardcore

>>62338559
I know that feel. It makes me want a higher res desktop monitor.

>>62338784
I got a nicer T440p for £240.

Need a thinkpad to:

>college things
>3D modelling (solidworks, AutoCAD and photoshop)
>videos

If they come with a Graphics and a NVidia Quadro it's a great think.
Screen with a good resolution.
Can upgrade the cpu and ram (32 or 64gb)

Price: < $500

T420 with a 128gb SSD and an Alienware screen replacer would cost me around 300 Euromonies, but a W520 with the SSD would cost me 500. I got the budget, I play vidya and I do programming. Still not sure which one to pick...

>>62338907
dGPU versions of the t420, t520, w520, t430, t530, w530, t440p, t540p or w540.

>>62338935
i'd go with the t420 because i don't like laptops above 14" but that's just a personal opinion

>>62338935>>62338935
It looks like you get more options with the W520. That being said, I own a T420 and I am quite pleased with it but I only have the dedicated intel chip. There are variants of the T420 with NVIDIA graphics but, again, most variants of the T420 have only the intel graphics.

TLDR: whichever has the best graphics and processing module. Do your research before you purchase on ebay.

>>62338784
pass. Can get shittier ones for 150. You supposed to upgrade them anyway

>>62338935
I was in the same position.

I went with a W520. Not by choice over the T420, but because it was the only auction I won.
Managed to get it for €320 after weeks of fucking about on eBay.

Is a T420 good enough for my chinese cartoons and CSGO? Also how shit is the display?

>>62339658
T430

>>62339658
>chinese cartoons
yes
>CSGO
no
>how shit
very shit unless you do the alienware mod

What's the better sites to buy a thinkpad?

I only know ebay.

>>62339685
>>62339766
Guess I'm going with the T430, got my eyes on one for $130. There's also a t440p up for $180, I'm not sure if those are any good though.

>>62339861
I just bought a T440p today because of these guys

I saw that one for $180 if you're on Ebay. The keyboard can be replaced but I don't think it comes with an OS or hard drive

>>62339766
get a w530 and keyboard mod it, make sure to get nvidia quadro k2000m version with i7 extreme 3940xm which took me a bit to find but ended up finding, also 32 gb of ddr3 and ssds for both sata and msata. this means it would have the best screen offered also.

>>62339685
Whats the difference besides the T430 having the worse keyboard?>>62339766

>>62339891
The one I'm looking at has a hard drive but no OS. Looks like a pretty good deal actually.

>>62339658
The standard display is extremely shit.
The HD+ display is usable.

>>62339958
Superior GPU, both iGPU and dGPU are a lot better suited for gaymen

>>62336401
Why?

>>62340024
Because you pay more for less power and the gains in battery life aren't exactly huge.

So is the T440p worth getting instead of a T430?

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>>62322502
>>62322566
Here's the end result if you're still here but it doesn't look that great imo, the 30kb limit for the bios boot logo restricts a lot.

>>62337355
ULV is unironically the best in a laptop, you will never get your desktop CPU to give you the kind of battery life that ULV provides.

Are the X1 carbon and yoga series any good or should they be avoided?

>>62340173
>cucked to shit performance forever
>when throttling your processor to get the same 15w tdp at 100% load is a thing

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Why the FUCK are all most of the new ones grey instead of black? You've gotta go T460s or newer to get normal black

>>62340196
You will never throttle a full desktop processor and get the same battery life as an ULV.

And for that matter you can throttle an ULV as well, and get even more battery life.

I think what you're looking for is a desktop, champ.

>>62340211
>"Hurr we're Lenovo and we truly have to make ThinkPad our own because we can't seem to step out of IBM's shadow. If we can't do it as well as they did we might as well ruin it"
Fucken Chinks

>>62338154

Soft rim by far

just a reminder that the anniversary thinkpad will have no mouse buttons, will have shit mousepad single physical click meem. and trackpoint buttons of course.

>>62337027
Where would I get the 1080p panel?

>>62340326

ebay or amazon. Get the fru number. 1.2 and 1.3 are matte displays. 1.1 isnt

>>62340326
There's a seller on aliexpress that sells those new for $65 and has good feedback

Using a Hackintosh on my T420. Can the VGA port be used in 1080p at the same time as the Display port with the lid closed? I have Windows connected to my two monitors for gaming (predates my Hackintosh setup), when I want to game I'll just flip the inputs. Using MacOS with just one Monitor is such a pain in the ass when used to multi monitor.

>>62340385
>>62340367
>>62340326

B140HAN01.1 glossy
B140HAN01.2 matte
B140HAN01.3 matte

Hi fellow ThinkPad users!

Don't forget to stop by Libreboot General Thread if you have a compatible model and are interested in flashing your BIOS.

>>62302453

>>62340455

I actually want my thinkpad to be functional. No ty retard

>>62340403
>>62340367
What's the difference between 1.2 and 1.3?

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I can install a Japanese keyboard in my T500 and it would function exactly the same, correct?

>>62340472

Identical apparently it's just a revision of 1.2. Probably streamlined its production.

>>62340466
How does Libreboot make it less functional? It keeps the NSA out of your computer since it also removes the Intel ME

>>62340472
0.1

>>62340480
but why you weeaboo

>>62340480

yes the keyboard is just aesthetics. youd need to setup language input in your OS to type wapanese

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>>62340385
This the dude?

How do I tell them which one I want? All three of them are listed in the title.

>>62332659
what the hell happened to that thinkpad EC flash where you could flash the EC in xx30 thinkpads for either keyboard swap only, keyboard swap and battery whitelist removal, or both (and I think some others)
the one on the wiki is not the right one.

>>62340532
Yeah that's the one. I think it says something like "pls ask me for your exact model stock before buying" on the item description, try asking him for the b140something version.

Guys I just farted and I think some of the brown stuff came out my poo poo

>>62340603

NOT ON MY STINKPAD !!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9PHywuB3dI
Can we make this the official ThinkPad hymn? Make it autoplay on every TPG!

Is the thinkpad x60 still good today?

>>62340687

Instaboner wtf

If I do a clean windows 10 install on my x230 do I need to install any Lenovo software?

>>62340798

No. Wangblows 10 does a better job at managing everything

>>62340769
It's good. It's not blazing fast of course but it's a good browsing machine for maintaining freedumbs. To be honest, I'd still put my X60 on my lap and type on it, maybe feel and touch it all over, even if it was broken just because it feels so premium.

>>62340815
So all the necessary drivers will already be installed?

>>62336714
To get the best performance out of the eGPU you're going to want to hook an external monitor to the video card anyway. Otherwise you suffer from a pretty severe performance drop due to sending the signal back and forth across the limited expresscard bandwidth. It'll still be leagues better than the integrated GPU, but not nearly as good as with an external monitor.

Can I do anything other than surf the web on a x60?

>>62341129
I run GIMP, stellarium, and VLC on my X60s without any issues, so there's that.

Anyone here have the w530?

Is it really too heavy?

Is 77 degrees celsius a normal temperature for an X220 under ~90% load? I repasted the CPU.

>>62341183
>>62341183
>>62341183

NEW THREAD

>>62341129
Can it watch YouTube videos with no problem?

If I get one I plan on installing a lightweight distro of course

>>62341206
Yeah, it'll do 480p youtube and radio streaming no problem

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>>62337933
Yep! My 8GB sticks came in the other day. Today my 1TB HDD came, but my ultrabay caddy hasn't come yet.

>>62338372
Sure! The theme is one I made myself a while ago, but my GTK3 theme is basically just chicago95. Yeah, openbox.

>>62338780
I flashed Libreboot and have since removed the BIOS password from the eeprom. The unit was listed "parts or not working" because of that, but it's actually brand new!

>>62341497
Sticks? It shows that you only have 8 gigs or am I missing something?

>>62341562
Sorry, 2x4GB lol. If it supported more I'd put more in.

>>62341576
No problem! Your rig is bretty gud I'm looking forward to seeing more of it