/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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first for ergonomics

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It's one bit creeepy and one bit serendipitous that the moment you learned about the CM MasterKeys Pro M and seriously considered getting one, people in the last thread also started talking about it and other "compact" with-numpad boards like the Leopold FC980M.

And so: Is the MasterKeys Pro M a good buy? This would be my first time buying from this brand.

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>>62259884
>mechanical keyboard general
>OP image is a rubber dome

>>62259987
>starting this shit up again
Topre is considered "honorable" mechanical keyboards years ago already. Can't we get over this shit already? What a boring topic.

I spilled some sody pop on my HHKB many years ago and even though I tore it all the way down and cleaned everything out the left shift still feels a bit... off? do I need to oil it or something? Not sure what's causing it. haven't used the keyboard in a few years

I have just bought the KBDfans Dolch PBT keycaps 145pcs for $55, how did I do? And how is it's quality and thickness compared to GMK DSA Dolch keycaps?

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best thing about how HHKB2 Pro is how the keys feels. They're absolutely perfect.
The profile and the plastic itself is just amazing. It's like sex for your fingertips. It's always textured and does't get smooth. The keys themselves don't have any raised edges like lastered legend keys do so it's all just perfect to the touch.
I got it last week and I just keep my fingers on it since it feels so damn good.

10/10 keyboard all around. would buy again.

>>62260068
What keyboard were you using all this time?

>>62259987
>OP image is a rubber dome
>/mkg/ - Rubberdome edition

>>62260039
I think the word you're looking for is honorary.

>>62260068
if its squeaky try lube on stabilizers.

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Which keyset looks better?

>>62260317
>not buying chink topre clones to save yourself $200

>pretending your keyboard matters

Nigga I have a MagicForce68 and a Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum with the best mech keys on the planet (Romer-G) and I still think my MacBook Pro keyboard is the most comfortable typing experience you can get

>>62260602
>wasting money on chikshit
that shit's garbage anon. if you get bored with it tomorrow, you can't even resell it since it's shit.

only buy brand names and high-end shit.

>>62260602
I would if they felt like topre, but they don't.

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Anyone wanna sell me their NavaTouch?

It's normal for the left control key on a realforce to be wobbly right?

This is all memeshit.

After my Das Keyboard II (cherry mix blue), I’m back to my iMac stock keyboard, shits good!

>>62260602
linku

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too bad it's pink.

>>62261729
Are you gay?

>>62261737
no.
also, have no need for wasd/arrow keys either. it's a waste to pay $16 if the only thing that kinda interests me is the spacebar.

>>62260601
top

Is the Tada68 a meme?
It looks so nice...

>>62260317
They definitely do get smooth. My pro 1 from 2003 is very shiny

>>62260601
Is the bottom one maxkey dolch? Remove the red accents and it's better.

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>>62261877
It's /our keyboard/.

>>62261928
>2003
They're not PBT.

>>62261978
could do without the leds though

/mkg/ Topre farts edition.

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>>62259978
First for Reganomics.

>>62260601
Bottom

>>62260944
Nova touch boards were never good, people always said they felt like shit until they got discontinued and fancy aluminum cases came out for them.

>>62262417
Spotted the edgy teenager.

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I've been thinking about getting the WASD Code 87 keyboard. I've hard good things about their keyboards, but have also heard people say how wasd keycaps are crap. How true is this?

>>62262450
Top looks like fucking puke. The white and beige do not go well with dark grey - if the modifiers were light grey or darker beige, it would work as a retro scheme. Right now it just looks out of place and horrible

>>62262436
>Nova touch boards were never good, people always said they felt like shit
these people you speak of... who are they? kek
I love mine. I'd like to buy the second one so I can use it at work.

> until they got discontinued and fancy aluminum cases came out for them.
there's no need for Al cases. cases they come in are nice and the steel plate is heavy.

after trying so many keyboards, I still come back to it.

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>second day of using mixed switches
>already want to order more
welp, looks like I'm converting my first mechanical keyboard in some kind of frankenstein that'll look like a switch-tester bracket. Thinking about getting clears for the 2nd row and a hand full of meme switches for the far right column.

>>62262659
>I am really happy with my $150 purchase, I have never touched another topre board in my life but trust me this one is great.
Before the novatouch got discontinued there were more people buying them to put the sliders in their hhkb than to actually use the board.

>>62262785
I have an HHKB2. I miss arrow keys and the layout is shit.
Anyway, you sound like an idiot who's never even tried good boards. You just speak of 'other people'.

>>62262689
Are the kailh golds decent quality? I'm intrigued but wary, still chink shit and all.

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so I ordered this with colemak layout and monochrome modifiers

>>62261978
I wish I could justify getting the aluminum case for it, but it's more expensive than what I paid for the actual keyboard.

What's the cheapest board with clears I can get, up to a TKL? Already own all of the 3 lighter switches, but I can't find any of the medium weight ones apart from blacks, and I'd like to try out clears considering Gateron browns are one of my favorites. Don't really care about the size, as long as it isn't full-size.

>>62263050
They feel more solid than the gaterons, less wobble, the click isn't as high pitched
That said the kailhs are new, the gaterons are a year old

>>62262864
>I miss arrow keys and the layout is shit.
Why did you buy it then ? The Layout is one of the best things about it.

The 1800 layout has ruined small keyboards for me, I used to love 60 and 65% boards but now when I use one I just keep missing my numpad and the extra keys above it. The only thing better about the 60/65 is having the esc key on the numrow making it easy to reach without having to shift my whole hand.

>>62263079
Just so you know, you won't get it until 2019, there's a good chance Massdrop will cancel your order and they also might accidentally ship your caps to someone else and only offer you a refund

>>62260944
EU?

>>62263411
that's fine. they're keycaps, not oxygen

>>62263492
Alright, your choice. I just wouldn't support a company with a track record that bad since they're only keycaps.

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Just ordered this set of IKBC (and Vortex?) double-shot PBT for my RGB meme board for $10 off Taobao/Tmall, while they seem to be around $30 everywhere else. Am I going to get chinked?

>>62263387
>That Scitex version
God damn. Does this layout exist anymore? Leopold FC980 is pretty close but their switch selection is kinda minimal.

>>62259979
The 980M is a better deal.

>>62259979
>Is the MasterKeys Pro M a good buy?
Depends on what you're caring the most about: that keyboard comes with shit keycaps and cherry mx switches, but admittedly has a great form factor and layout.
The Leopold FC980M has better keycaps, and an arguably better layout, that manages to retain some more keys, especially the arrows, with only an extremely minimal increase in size.

They both come with a limited selection of cherry mx switches, that for some might be a deal breaker, although it is also true that you either build your own keyboard at unearthly costs, or come down to heavy compromises in terms of layout and/or build quality in the case of a pre-built one, if you want non-mainstream switches mechanical keyboard in general.

>>62263079
>premium ABS
Every time

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>>62263520
I love this thought process so much
>knew that these keycap usually sets cost $30
>still decided to buy cheap ones
>from unofficial Chinese sources
>because he's fucking cheap
>still give himself the victim complex, "Oh no somebody save me from these chinks who are scamming me into spending less money"

>>62263430
Yep, UK

>>62264735
I have no idea where you got 90% of the stuff you're implying, but regardless.
The older set cost about $30 on Massdrop, and you can probably attribute some of that to shipping. Also wouldn't call it "unofficial Chinese sources". Tmall is more strict than Taobao, the seller is well reviewed and it has a shit ton of reviews with pictures. Worst case scenario I paid $20 for shit caps, so who cares. Just thought it was funny to see this stuff so widely available in China for so cheap.

>>62264791
Dude, I'm not gonna argue with you about a difference of twen-fucking-ty dollars.
I'm just gonna sit here and laugh at you, is all.

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>>62264838
Have fun?

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>>62264791
>Asks if going to get chinked
>Someone says yes
>Spergs out

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>he doesnt have a detached numpad so he can have it on the left where it belongs

>>62264729
there is literally nothing wrong with ABS

>>62265068
>there is literally nothing wrong with abs

How do i fix the spacebar being louder than the rest of the keys? it sounds like shit

>>62265132
lube the stabs

>>62265141
what are the stabs?

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>>62265173

>>62265185
oh i've seen those things when i take the spacebar off. i dont understand how they work

>>62265249
they stabilize the very large key when it's pressed down
you usually don't put equal pressure when you're pressing down a large key so of course something to help that would make the key press easier

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>>62265275
so just put lube on these things??

>>62265381
You lube up the sides and the housing, not the actual stem, dumbass.

I want to build a keyboard but can't decide on a switch should I buy a switch tester?

>>62266259
Absolutely, especially since you're gonna spend a good amount of money to build one.

>>62266259
nah all switches feel the same. Just buy the color you like the best.

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Spring'n'rubber

>>62263079
Why would you pay 200 bucks and wait 10 months to get this crap when maxkey ashen/portland is exactly the same thing, costs half and is already avalible?

>>62263235
Ganns 87 at aliexpress, 90 bucks or so. Its bretty gud also.

>>62266244
>lube everywhere around the stem
what the fuck is the difference? I dont want to desolder them and shit

>>62266470
That's a very cute wallpaper or whatever image it is.

>>62266521
Those are stabilizers, not switches. You don't have to desolder anything. Also it makes a huge difference

>>62260601
top board, bottom keys

>>62266544
so what the fuck do i put the lube on without lubing the actual stem part???

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>>62266537
You have won a wallpaper!

>>62266635
You can't be that retarded anon?

>>62266635
pour melted butter on your spacebar and then it will be lubed

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>>62266659
Oh, thank you. Here is one from me in turn.

>>62266635
Another anon here. You can find plenty of information just by searching from the web. Deskthority, geekhack and reddit's mechanical sections are filled with information.

>>62266710
you're right, coming to a thread specifically for mechanical keyboards is definitely not the right spot to ask.

>>62266818
Oh please, use your fucking brain dumb ass. If you can't figure out how a stabilizer works by looking at it, then you have no hope. Stick to reddit if you don't want to be bullied for acting like a retard.

>>62266861
why are you getting so worked up anon? im just trying to figure out how to make my spacebar a little more silent thats all.

>>62265068
There is plenty wrong with ABS, it's a pile of shit in front of PBT

>>62266897
He's right, you are retarded.

I have no practical need for a keyboard, but I have some money to spare. What keyboard will give me a sense of fullfilment as a mindless consumer? Preferably girly, I don't like overtly masculine tech.

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>>62266936
get this

>>62266935
>>62266861
how am i retarded when someone on here told me not to lube the stem but everything around it? wont the stem inevitably be lubed at that point?

>>62266957
Is that even mechanical? Looks a bit tame.

>>62266959
Fine here's how to lube it
http://bfy dot tw/DkuK

>>62266959
Ok genius how does a stabilizer work?

>>62266991
do i replace the "dot" with the .? like a website?

>>62267035
yes

>>62267032
im assuming it stabilizes the longer key so it presses the switch wherever you hit the key.
btw, i never claimed knowing how one worked. but my spacebar is loud as fuck

>>62267054
See that's the problem. The stabilizer is so simple, yet you can't figure out how it works because you're retarded.

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>>62267050
pic related??? seriously i just need to fucking make my spacebar more quiet, its really not that hard why cant someone answer me!

>>62267081
i've never seen one that wasn't attached to a board

>>62267090
You're trolling right? No one can be this retarded.

Anne Pro updates when

>>62267116
i guess you'll never know

Anybody own a realforce rgb?

Is there a keyboard with the following four dedicated keys?
>play/pause
>mute
>volume down
>volume up

>>62267330
Yes plenty of keyboards have all of those features. das. corsair, azio, ducky, etc.

>>62262229
Leds can be turned off

>>62267330
Just get a programmable board and assign those keys.

Thinking about getting a realforce w/ 55g topre electrostatic capacitive key switches. Is it a waste of $250?

>>62268622
Don't get the rgb one. Save the 100 bucks and get a normal one.

>>62268768
Where can you get a realforce for $150?

>>62267396
>das
Bulky, ugly, ABS caps
>corsair
Gayming shit
>azio
Pants-on-head retarded design
>ducky
The extra four keys are dedicated to something completely useless

>>62268346
Like? Also, I'd need the caps, and I haven't seen PBT sets with those specific keys, not at human prices.

>>62269408
Ducky keyboards are programmable you mong. You can set dedicated media keys however you want. Also why the fuck do you need matching keycaps. If you can't memorize were the keys are, then you might be retarded.

guys can you recommend me a keyboard? I like dicks in my mouth and ass

>>62269655
Any 75% would be fine. preferably with POM keycaps

>>62268869
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Noppoo-new-108-electrostic-capacitive-pro-mechanical-keyboard-topre-clone-switches-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-detachable/818123_2039433313.html

>>62269787
>https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Noppoo-new-108-electrostic-capacitive-pro-mechanical-keyboard-topre-clone-switches-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-detachable/818123_2039433313.html
>its not topre
why even bother

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Anyone know where I can get keycaps for a TADA68? I've been looking around and the best option I've found so far is to buy the non-standard keys individually from WASD.

>>62269968
aliexpress, kbdfans, massdrop, originative, ukkeycaps, keyclack, taobao, etc.

>>62259884
>$60 - $80
>Red (Less tactile, the better, less noise, also slightly better)
>Full
>ANSI (US english)
>Backlight (Doesn't matter, but preferable some light)
>Redragon Davarajus (brown)(shit) and Dell normie board $10

The redragon felt scratchy and plainly shit.

What buy, /g?

>>62269524
>Also why the fuck do you need matching keycaps.
For the same reason as the rest of this damn general: heavy autism.

>>62259884
would anyone sell me a Bro Pharoah Reaper cap?

>>62261978
i had to send my kbd75 back when i found out they accidentally gave me ISO layout, but i keep coming back to this board every time.

>>62270654

lol this fag is buying overpriced "artisans"

>>62270654
>muh artisans
kys

>>62270829
only artisans i've ever cared for were the skull wars. aside from the marble vader one, i got every one to date.

dont think i'll ever use em though.

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>>62270829
They aren't overpriced tho. They cost like 15-20 bucks. Its just that people use them to launder money
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cf5f_sku_3blk

Is anyone buying that tada68 from massdrop? i'm kinda worried about buying since massdrop usually fucks everything up.

>>62270829
fuck off, neet virgin.

>>62270849
i don't own any artisans and it's the only one i want and could stand putting on my keyboard.

you're irrelevant, but you made me reply, so you have that going for you.

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>>62259884
Only good rubberdome keyboards

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>>62261978
Yeeeeeeeee

what is the cheapest place to get a tada68 besides massdrop?

>>62271217
originativeco

you can get them fitted with their MOD switches too, which feel smoother and snappier than Zealios

>>62271007
Wow, I'm using one of those right now

>>62271217
taobao has them for $59

Looking for my first mech kb: under $150, cherry mx blues, full size standard layout, preferably white. Does this exist?

>>62271611
Ducky One
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1629
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2628
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2616

>>62266476
It's available in colemak?

>>62271710
no all-white version :( love that it also has LED backlights though. any similar alternatives with LED backlighting and have white case + white keys?

>>62271710
Any sites to get a Ducky One with a more forgiving return policy than mechincalkeyboards.com? 10% restocking fee + return shipping + $9 original shipping fee is fucking nuts.

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>Hear about how great topre is everyday
>Decide to give in and buy a $200 HHKB
>Feels just like my old rubber dome

>>62272296
i'll take it brev

>>62272209
ncix

>>62272296
>$200 HHKB
Look at this dumb dumb.
He didn't import them for half the price.

>>62272415
Where do you get an HHKB for $100?

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For anyone considering buying the Drevo Gramr keep in mind that you can't turn off all the leds on the keyboard.

Even if you turn the light setting to the lowest the leds on F12, PrtSc, Pause and Caps Lock will always be on.

It's obviously not the biggest problem but sucks that such a basic thing isn't included in the keyboard settings.

>>62272415
>paying $100 for rubber dome

meming aside, I think full height, full travel rubber dome keyboards are nice to type on

>>62266922
how are they worse? I've had ABS for years, it doesn't break or wear out, so what is the issue?

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>>62272884
This is why

>>62273037
semen <3

>>62273037
What if you like the look of a well-used keyboard?

>>62273139
Then OK I guess. Note that the shine actually changes the texture, even if you keep it perfectly clean it will feel oily. In my opinion that's disgusting.

You could always go for yellowed plastic, faded legends, etc. I get where you're coming from, I would consider pad-printed legends just so I could fade then to get a retro look. But I would never type on a shiny ABS keyboard.

>Budget
50-150€
>Location (continent at least)
Northern yurop
>Preferred switch type
Red/brown/Topre(-clone) or similar
>Layout / Form factor
TKL or smaller with ESC/function keys right next to the number keys, no gaps
>Backlight
whatever

There's Plum84 at least. Can anyone recommend other similar-ish boards?

>>62273190
I've managed to remove that gross oily feeling for a few days at a time by washing my caps in luke-warm water with denture tablets

Coworkers are complaining that my keyboard is too loud. It has MX blues. I don't want to cause any problems with my coworkers so I want to get a quieter one. But is there a good quiet switch?

>>62273260
>removing, washing, then putting back your entire keycap set every few days
You do you, man. But PBT is objectively better quality. If you like the way ABS deteriorates, and are willing to put up with all the hassle, good, but it doesn't change that it's deteriorating where PBT would still be good as new.

>>62273305
MX clear or zealios

>>62273327
Don't get me wrong I prefer PBT but I have a set of GMK that I paid a silly amount for so I use it on the board I take around with me so I don't actually wash it all that often maybe once every few weeks or so

>>62273305
topre
>>62273344
Either of those unlubed won't solve his problem

>>62273371
He might as well get a cheap rubber dome keyboard

>>62273386
thats what I recommended?

>>62273305
In order, from worst to best:
>tactile MX switch with O-rings
By that I mean mostly browns or clears. The easiest choice, but not exactly silent (though definitely quieter than undampened blues), and unless you find yourself liking that particular setup (which does sometimes happen) it will feel like shit (which is the more common opinion by far).

>silenced reds/blacks
These are properly silenced, but they're also linear, so they're definitely not for everyone.

>topre
You have two options: silenced topre, or normal topre with kbdfans silencing rings. Topre in general is pretty quiet, so when silenced it really isn't loud. But again, the switch itself means this isn't for everyone.

>Matias Quiet Click
Matias/alps switches in general are much more tactile than MX switches - some consider them almost on par with buckling springs. Matias's quiet switch is, again, properly silenced, so it's really very quiet, while barely sacrificing any tactility. The downside is that right now it's very difficult to find PBT keycaps, so you'll likely have to settle for ABS until Matias starts making their own PBT sometime next year.

>>62273412
No you recommended an overpriced rubber dome

Just bought a cooolermaster masterkeys pro L that unfortunately has abs keycaps. What pbt keycaps can I buy that will work with the backlight?

>>62273465$100+ for a keyboard with ABS...

Should have just gotten a cheaper one and replaced the keycaps. Or gotten a better keyboard with pbt already

>>62273483
Link me a better one under $150 and I'll cancel my order.. needs backlight, full size and cherry mx blues

>>62273502
And not on mechanicalkeyboards.com. I need a more forgiving return policy than that site

>>62273502
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=679

All i did was google

Wasnt that hard. And its pbt.

>>62273502
just get the cooler master with PBT keycaps if you like that keyboard so much. Any Ducky or Leopold with PBT is fine too.

>>62273502
Ducky shine

>>62273567
Haha I have no attachment to that kb, just only one I could find not on mechanicalkeyboards.com (used Newegg) that has backlight, full-size and under $150.

>>62273538
Fuck their return policy

>>62273628
>complains about mechanicalkeyboards return policy
>used newegg which has an even worse one
make up your mind

Fuck, should I get the Preonic drop? I've never soldered anything in my life before, am I likely to fuck things up?

Am I falling for a meme? It looks really nice - a compact comfy board with matias quiets, perfect for taking with me to work and stuff.

>>62273305
either of these keyboards
>>62271007

Logitech K310
Dell Quietkey RT7D5JTW

>>62273695
oh shit just saw newegg charges fucking 15% restocking fee. gonna try to cancel my order

can you guys suggest a tenkeyless under $140 with cherry mx blues and an RGB backlight?

>>62274298
ducky one rgb

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>>62272841
I agree.
Just need some non-shit rubber and they're actually decent.

>Was told blue switches are heavy and tactile
>Bought a keyboard with Gateron blue switches
>It's very light and barely tactile
>Find out about Buckling springs
>Am told they're even heavier than blue switches and way more tactile
>Buy a Model M
>it isn't heavy at all but is tactile

What switch should I get now? I want it to be tactile like the model m but heavier

>>62274444
Tactile switches don't exist

>>62274075
I've been too spoiled by amazon's return policy that I forgot stuff like restocking fees and partial refunds are standard throughout the industry. I bought a wireless adapter off newegg and it was too big to fit in my laptop. When I returned it they said the packaging was damaged so they could only give me a partial refund. It was total bs, but I can't do anything about it.

>>62273190
This is literally the nicest reply I've ever seen on /g/.

>>62274444
280g APC switches

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>>62259884
MACBOOK PRO HAS THE BEST MECH KEYBOARD ON THE MARKET WITH ITS 2ND GENERATION BUTTERFLY KEYBOARD, ALL YOU STUPID KEKS HAVE TO USE A WIRE TO CONNECT YOUR INFERIOR PERIPHERAL, AHAHAHAHAHA!

>>62274855
But my filco minila air uses bluetooth

Are there any good keysets coming out?

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Tell me why this hobby is worth getting into pls

>>62275955
because it makes your finger feel good when typing. its tough finding what switch is right for you so buy like 3-5 different keyboards at first to see.

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This is what I think of you guys

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Just missed 6 model m's with the silver badge on the right for $60

>>62276288
I was really worried that video wasn't going to be real.

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Thoughts on the [spoiler]very camera-shy[/spoiler] MK Fission?

>>62275955
Because you have too much money, you stupid goy.

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ive got 27 bucks left on my amazon gift card can anyone suggest some keycaps. im a fan of pastel color.
Thanks

>>62272711
I actually was gonna pick one up and swap out the switches for kailh copper/burnt oranges. Still a solid use case?

>>62277219
why not buy a kbd75 kit and assemble it with those in the first place

Does every mechanical keyboard comes with anti ghosting technology? I was about to buy a tada68 keyboard for gaming, but I need to make sure first.

>>62277296
Yes. Anti-ghosting is gamer marketing speak for high key rollover, and almost all mechanicals made these days have diodes for each switch giving 6KRO (Over USB by default) or NKRO (Over P/S2 by default, over USB through hacks and tricks).

>>62277322
Oh, thanks anon. Would you mind telling me what's the best switch for a person that likes the sound of silence but still games a lot?

>>62277296
yes, you shouldn't have much an issue with 2key either really, but yeah mechanical usually has 6key plus, just get a nice kb

>>62277360
not him but
gateron black/red or cherry black/red or any cherry clone in that order
or you could go fun mode and get a matias quiet click, but I personally didn't like them and I'm a fan of the switch type

>>62277076
NPKC Rainbow

>>62262450
Spotted the hipster who jumped on the "old lookin keyboards are in" bandwagon.

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>>62277418
>>62262450

>not just having old keyboards to begin with
I am laffin

>>62277360
The black cherry switches is your friend in that situation :)

>>62277405
>NPKC Rainbow
Thanks for the suggestion.
The ones i see are going for 45 is there a cheaper one.

>>62277360
Light linear switches (cherry mx red) are often marketed towards gamers, since you're going to bottom them out anyway while gaming thus having a switch that doesn't oppose any resistance reduces the time it takes to activate the switch. This in theory. Practically it doesn't really matter the kind of switch you choose for gaming except, maybe, cherry mx blue because activation and deactivation points are located at different points in the key travel; moreover you don't want any click sound so you'll want to avoid these. You will also find that cherry mx brown, so called "tactile" switches, are marketed as jack of all trades, good for both gaming and typing; most people here consider them just bad because they're not good for nothing, except feeling like dirt got between the switch plunger and the shaft inside which it rides.

The best silent tactile switches might currently be matias quiet click, or some chink knockoff of the cherry design, but they're just impossible to find in pre-built cheap keyboards, so your choice is either cherry mx red, black (the difference is in the weight), or brown, since these are the mainstream ones.

If you have the chance go in a brick and mortar store, find a mechanical keyboard and try the switches out.

Okay guys, Im looking to buy my first mechanical keyboard. I live in the USA, have a budget of less than $170, would like a 60% keyboard with quiet switches that also provide tactile feedback. What should I get?

>>62277810
KBParadise V80 TKL w/ Matias quiet click switches

>>62277865
>KBParadise V80 TKL
Is there any reason you recommend a tenkeyless over a 60% form factor?

>>62277241
Cheaper than PCB + case honestly.

>>62278615
i think he's either retarded or thinking of the KBP v60 with the same switches. just get the v60

>>62279051
Yeah but desoldering is difficult if you're not experienced and don't have the right equipment, and could fuck up the Gramr's PCB

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>>62279190
>desoldering is difficult
no

>>62278615
nah sorry I meant V60 but had a brain fart

Is there something wrong with duckey keyboards as a brand? I dont see anyone here recommend them but they are the cheapest PBT+Cherry MX option available

>>62266470
Which monitor is that ?

>>62279506
You're looking in the wrong places, Ducky is one of the most, if not the most recommended brand among mechanical keyboard communities.

>>62275955
To search for the perfect tool to shitpost on 4chan.

>>62276608
What's there to say? If you want Ducky quality, RGB accent lighting, and floating keys, it's the keyboard to get.

I'm basically retarded when it comes to keyboards. Which of the mx switches is the most quiet one?

>>62280142
The ones called silent.

>>62280142
Silent Reds

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>>62280151
>>62280152
Thank.

Did I fuck up getting a board with outemu board?

Should have just got a membrane desu

>>62280366
wat. they're pretty standard for clone switches. definitely not as bad as most memebrane boards.

Hi fellows

I haven't used a mechanical keyboard since I was like 3 or 4 years old, I want to buy one.

Prefer:
- Detachable cable
- Removable switches (In case I decide I want to try other switches)

Based on descriptions I think I would like MX Browns the most but I have no fucking clue what I'm doing, does anyone have any suggestions or any can't-go-wrong recommendations for which keyboard I should buy?

>>62280442

Sweet. I had the feeling that I had wasted my money before I even received my board.

Does exist any Dampers guide for mech kb?

>>62280567
No there's no guides for making Australian bush bread out of mechanical keyboards.

>>62280602
cheers!

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>>62280528
Go to a store and try out switches if you can. all switches are "removable" by desoldering them afaik - and if you are confident enough to solder on your own switches you'll also be able to convert any keyboard to have a detachable cable, it's pretty easy and you can look up guides.

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I have no practical need for a new keyboard, but I have some money to spare. What keyboard will give me a sense of fullfilment as a mindless consumer? Preferably girly, I don't like overtly masculine tech.

>Checking out keysets
>$200 sets
>Premium double-shot
>Highest Quality
>ABS
What the fuck

>>62280528
There's a chinese keylogger that has knockoff switches where the terminals are friction/contact fit instead of soldered on. I've clearly forgotten the name, but I found it on newegg then checked a video on youtube.

Probably better to learn how to desolder and get a proper keyboard.

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Is 45 bucks too much for doubleshot pbt from Taihao?

>>62267125
I just want to fucking know what LED the board uses so I can buy them myself and fix the couple dead LEDs on it. I know the board itself is cheap but I'm autistic as shit and just want this board fixed.

>>62281001
I think I saw some of those keyboards, too, labeled as "hot swappable" feature. I wonder how reliable they are

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/e-element-rgb-keyboard

>>62281755
>>62281001
Is it this one?
https://youtu.be/lSKLwOPGw0I?t=119

>>62279438
>single sided PCB

Yeah, just try desoldering 200 points on a filco.

>>62281848
Might be annoying and not for impatient people but it's not difficult

>>62260601
top, dark for dark environment

so I had to leave behind my CM Rapid-i w/ Browns and I'm looking to replace them, which is the closest /g/ can get me. I want mx browns with the rubberised texture, don't give no shits about keycaps or leds

>>62282031
>I want mx browns with the rubberised texture

Do you mean O-rings?

>>62281755
>>62281806
Oh, must be what that specific brand does. This was the one I saw:
https://youtu.be/HimmtxHGHnk?t=5m

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>>62282043
Probably talking about shitty rubber case.

>>62281617
Is this you https://www.reddit.com/r/AnnePro/comments/6xsj78/has_anybody_had_experience_replacing_dead_leds/

>>62281617
Usually it's some off-the-shelf rectangular SMD. Put a multimeter on it to get the pinout and voltage, measure the size, look for markings, and see if there's anything that looks similar.

>>62259884
I would murder for a HHKB with bong layout and blank caps

>>62282045
I have the full size version from the other video. Mainly I got it to mess with the RGB lighting and to test out the switches. The micro usb cable port underneath doesn't feel like it really fits snug and you can kinda see it in the video but there are two plastic protrusions that sit on the sides of the usb plug that can prevent you from using wider micro usb cables with the keyboard. It sometimes seems to disconnect if you pick up the keyboard but the keyboard itself is built very solid it's pretty heavy and the rubberized feet prevent it from moving by itself so it's not really a huge problem for me personally. It really doesn't feel cheap but the keys are loud as shit and the font choice is just crap.

>>62277219
I would definitely say so, the bezel around the keyboard is a bit plasticy and not super solid but i havent found it a big issue.

>>62271007
what is this and where can i get it?

>>62266818
>>62266818
>>62272711
Please post key cap link
Also anyone know where I can get some keycaps for the tada68 it has that weird shift and small alt keys

>>62282196
I was interested in the 75% version because it had the dedicated F-keys and still had arrow keys despite removing most of that cluster.
I'm pretty close to getting meme'd into buying a Saber 68, but the number row is the only row I can't blind-poke accurately, so trying to FN it for F-keys is a worry. The separations between the F-key clusters really help, so other 75% with F-keys right above the number row don't alleviate the problem.

>>62282196
I just discovered a glitch in this keyboard's firmware. Apparently if you set it to rainbow fade and then switch to one of the game mode presets it changes the colors of the presets. If you do it correctly you can get colors that are not typically selectable like dark green, pink, or orange. Apparently changing the brightness reverts it back to the normal colors though.

>>62282189
Then just get a JIS HHKB

>>62268622
Don't underestimate 55g, it does get heavy for long hours. I like 45g on Leopold boards best desu. Whatever you do, install the kbdfans silence-x rings.

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Daily remainder: Pok3r is only 60% you need.

>>62282836
>ISO
Yuck

>>62279522
Ah, Dell's ultrasharp U2414H.

>>62282836
>>62283122
>they don't use the focus layout

>>62282836
protip: you never need a 60%

>>62282082
Yes, and I've been looking for days now

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Question on Ducky One RGB color programming - Can you program which colors you want to cycle through on the color cycle? (e.g., if I just want to fade between red, yellow and orange)? I haven't seen anything online -- it seems the RGB programming options is the weak point of the Ducky One RGB (no software )

>>62281848
It's not bad once you get a rhythm going with a desoldering pump. Hell I took apart an NMB board to make a custom space invader board, and those have 4 pins soldered per switch.

>>62284107
>a desoldering pump
Isn't it easier to use a solder wick?

>>62272209
maybe mechanical keyboards aren't for you after all.

where do all of yall niggas get your cables for the keyboards?

I'm talking about the non-stock braided cables with the cord loops.

Is it worth lubing vintage blacks?

>>62262003
Yes they are lmao... hhkb caps have not changed

>>62262003
Besides what the fuck does the year of the board matter? PBT caps have been a thing since the early 80s

>>62284659
>>62284676
>complains about caps not being the same after 15 years of use
kys

>>62284545
Yeah

>>62259884
Fucking ANSI everywhere... Can you fucking shit eating amerifags start following proper standards? Or do you've to do your own shit to feel special? You guys are the definition of special education...

>inb4 eurofag

Fuck off nigger lover

What equipment would I need to get to assemble the preonic kit from massdrop? The PCB is pre-soldered, but I still need to solder the switches, right? Will like a $50 soldering station from amazon be all I need?

Also given that I have to ask this, how long would you expect assembly to take, and how likely am I to fuck up badly?

>>62285348
An american invented the keyboard you dumb sandnigger

>>62285348
Every country just copies America, so whatever 3rd world country you're from isn't following proper standards.

>it seems the perfect keyboard for me doesn't exist
>but maybe older ones...
>check deskauthority
>mmmh this one might do it
>check ebay
>there's nothing
How the fuck does that balding brit manage to get all those keyboards for fuck sake?

>>62285441
You can get keyboard implants so you don't need to solder anything

>>62285567
Go to an electronic recycling center. Thats how I got a model F for 5 bucks

>>62285567
What keyboard are you looking for?

>>62285567
live near a recycling center
you do this by living near any city with a pop bigger than 5

>>62285673
Anything with complicated alps and decent caps in ISO UK layout. Matias Quiet Pro would do it if it didn't have shit caps with awful lettering and well documented QC issues.

>>62284339
No, wicking is slower and more of a pain in the ass. It's largely reserved for cleaning up stubborn spots that refuse to come clean with a sucker.

>>62283847
also, can you slow down the speed of the various effects?

>>62284826
I never complained about it you silly sausage! I see it as an achoevement with PBT

>>62285468
You stupid shit eating sandfucking nigger... The person that invented the keyboard was actually from England... It was invented in the 1700s and used the all familiar QWERTY layout... Know your facts before you shitpost you over privileged cis male

>>62285588
Is that actually practical? It sounds like it would achieve a subpar result, and be marketed towards people who don't really want to type a lot but want to say they assembled a meme.

>>62286426
>>62285468

UK and US had the best newspapers of the 1700s and 1800s
why can't we just be friends

Filco. Are they good. Gonna get majestouch2 or the Bluetooth one. Brown switches. Thoughts?

Thinking about sending back my vortex race 3 w/ mx clears and trying out a realforce 87u. What should I do?

>>62279506
Are you blind?

In this thread alone, see:
>>62267396
>>62269524
>>62271710
>>62273567
>>62273577
>>62274348

>>62286426
>the keyboard was actually from England
This is factually inaccurate guy. Lookup silicon valley buddy, you're welcome for all of the world's greatest tech innovations you piece of shit.

>>62287085
b-but muh acorns

>>62287085
>Silicon Valley
Did you just cuck yourself you fucking retard? You know when our lord and saviour Terry Davis screams CIA nigger right? He screams at people like you.

Anyway SV wasnt shit before ~1970... The keyboard was made in the 1700's buy some britbong... Get your facts straight ameritard.

>>62287168
>keyboard in 1700s
>uses 'buy' instead of 'by'
>tells me to get my facts straight
whatever you say man

>>62287238
Ever heard of Remington or any other typewriter? Or maybe you're to much of a manchild to accept that kind of tech?

>>62287375
remington makes guns you pleb. read a book for me one time?

>>62287462
fucking gook...

E. Remington and Sons (1816–1896) was a manufacturer of firearms and typewriters. Founded in 1816 by Eliphalet Remington in Ilion, New York, on March 1, 1873 it became known for manufacturing the first commercial typewriter.

>>62287473
Remington, LLC is an American manufacturer of firearms and ammunition in the United States. It was founded in 1816 by Eliphalet Remington in Ilion, New York, as E. Remington and Sons. Remington is America's oldest gun maker and "It's America's oldest factory that still makes its original product-guns."
B T F O

>>62287473
I thought you said the keyboard was made in 1700s? If you're saying remington is responsible then credit to the U.S.A.

>>62287473
>modern keyboard made by IBM
>IBM is here in the USA
>Lists an american company as the maker of old typewriters
>Claims its British
ANSI is better for programing then ISO, so it's no surprise that people who use computers to program prefer to use it.

>>62287577
The british fag is still upset about getting cucked in the revolution and can't deal with the fact that his country hasn't done shit for decades

>>62280918
Didn't you already ask this?

Also Magicforce with rainbow/Taihao Miami caps.

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>>62259884
Does keycap thickness really matter if you use o-rings or don't bottom out when you type?
I know about PBT and their durability and texture over ABS, but I noticed a hardly ever bottom out while I type. Would the cap thickness even really matter in that instance? There's no sound or feel of the cap hitting the board and that's what I mostly see changes with thickness.

>>62287577
ANSI enter is better but ISO left shift is superior. Life is suffering.

>>62287612
Not true. They decided to become the biggest cucks in the world, and that takes skill.

>>62287670
Yeah look at what happened to the british in world war 2 before we got involved. RAN OUT OF EUROPE. Sad! Always winning when the USA is involved

How do you not bottom out? It is physically impossible to not bottom out unless i type extremely slow

>>62287736
Excercise and lose weight. Or get a heavier switch.

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>>62287736
Use heavier switches. My MX-Clears don't bottom out unless I use an exceptional amount of force that wouldn't be practical to type with to begin with.

We need a new thread. This one hit the bump limit.

>>62287957
You know you can make one right?

>>62287955
Atreus or Preonic?

Get the ninja version of the MJ2 if you want a keycap remover. Normal MJ2 doesn't come wi th one. I had to order one from Japan and it will take 30 days to get here. The keycaps I ordered didn't come with one either!

Quick question, I know that cherry greens are pretty much just blues but stronger. Is there a switch that is basically blues but slightly weaker actuation force?

>>62287955
I'm using buckling springs

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>>62288056
Both are memes, why do you want either?

>>62288129
I want an ultra-portable meme, and I also feel like I will like the ortholinear meme.

>>62288084
Buckling springs are only 10g heavier then blacks. Get a stronger switch like clears or grey

>>62286802
get leopold.

>>62286897
Sure, but get silence rings with it.

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>>62288149
Just get a Planck then?

>>62288288
The number row barely adds to the size, but the plank costs a lot more unless I wait for another drop which can take months or years.

Preonic is on assdrop right now, I can get it for $200 with matias switches

>>62287654
ISO with big ass enter and focus layouting of the slash is the true patrician layout

>>62288149
lets split, at least when you get bored of it they double as macropads.

>>62288129
post the pexon image

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>>62288329
If you're sure you can get used to otholinear, then I think the metal case and more keys make the Preonic a better option from a functional standpoint

>>62288417
Sure

>>62288461
Quick question before I meme myself: is it possible to efficiently switch between ortholinear and traditional, or is it like switching to Colemak and will fuck up your typing on normal keyboards?

>>62288343
Is it possible to get them at a reasonable price and effort with a good case and matias switches? Though either way, in this particular case I'd prefer non-split as it makes it easier to carry around, and I want it to be portable.

>>62288461
thanks bud, we miss you over in telegram

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>>62287375
>>62287462
>>62287473
>>62287519
>>62287529
Can't we all just get along?

>>62289032
Stop posting the same pics in every thread

>>62289099
post keyboard or stop complaining faggot

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>>62289099
With absolute certainty I know that you haven't taken or posted as many keyboard photos in /mkg/ as I have, so that seems not just a little bit hypocritical.

>>62282222
One is a dell quiet key from the early 2000's, his black keyboard is a logitech waterproof washable k310

>>62289214
thats better fag

Why would anyone defend their country? Both the UK and the US are shit, get over it.

>>62289445
Do you happen to be a liberal and live in the US?

>>62289465
I live in the UK, I just see no point in trash talking any country when the entire world is a shit hole. And no, I'm not a liberal.

>>62289486
>entire world is a shit hole
American here. Having lived in the UK, I can understand why you would think that.

Protip: My part of the world isn't shit.

Also
>UK
>not liberal

>>62271007
I dunno, the domes on the thinkcentees at my college are pretty snappy, even if a bit squishy at the very bottom if the press

>>62289522
I've lived in the US, I have friends in the US, and while I love visiting, it's a shit hole just like the UK.

>>62289572
>I just see no point in trash talking any country
>it's a shit hole just like the UK
lol typical hypocritical ukuck