/TPG/ THINKPAD GENERAL RENAISSANCE EDITION

thoughts on the x62?

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2nd for SimCity

>>62242793
Simcity is god tier.

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First for X40 master race!
>no hardware backdoor
>super efficient processor
>best keyboard
>near-retina screen
>10+ hour battery life with wireless, 14 hours with it turned off (with new chink battery)
>no homosex trackpad
>no need to install transexual boot shit
>gigabit ethernet
>tiny and sexy
>proper aspect ratio
>internal roll cage to protect drive (no screen / lid cage but IDGAF)
>actual IBM logo
>no built in camera or mic, stymies CIA niggers
>only $30 or so
>cute docking station and extended battery available
>*yellow* thinklight to preserve night vision
Why don't you own the finest laptop ever made?

Photogenic weekend pic included.

>>62242816
SimCity 3000 is still my favorite, but the original is special in its own way, no other game "feels" like it

>>62242793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwCS0trIo4w I prefer the sequel

Does the x230 have drainage holes? What about the x240 and above?

>>62242833
>That screen ratio
Yuck

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What are you gonna put your sticker on, /tpg/?
Are you worried that someone might recognize you as the 4chan browsing goblin that you are?

>>62242792
Cool but for a niche market and the concept of a modern 4:3 laptop with mid 2000's business design is not going to come back. Its great that someone is bothering to do it all for the few people who truly want one though.

>>62242888
Millennial newfag detected.

>>62242888
Please leave forever

>>62242893
Post pic of stickers?

>>62242893
Damn, that's a cute round white ball of fluff. You got anymore?

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>>62242905

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Help please m8s

My Thinkpad doesn't go into sleep mode after closing the lid regardless of the OS. Thought the PCB with the camera and microphone above the screen had something to do with it so i did some tests and noticed that the camera does while the microphone does not. How is this possible if both use the same cable? is that pcb even related to my issue? Any suggestions?

>>62243030
power management settings?
try that

>>62243064
Already tried on Windows and also booting Linux, as i said it happens regardless of the OS.

It does the same thing if i turn it on while docked and with the lid closed, the screen turns on and everything.

>>62243101
go into bios maybe? I dont know if your model controls your screen that way.

>>62243273
I'm sure it's hardware related because it used to work fine and i never touched the BIOS.

What I'm confused about is why the camera works but the microphone (and probably the lid sensor if it's there) doesn't since they share the same cable. And no, the mic isn't disabled in the OS or the BIOS.

Fuck yeah, new thread! Quick question: my brother's going to be doing some work with Source Filmmaker (I'll have to check Wine compatibility, otherwise RIP the Linux dream) and an anon helped me narrow it down to an X240 for him. Anything better under $350?

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This will all work together right? (I already made sure the battery will work)

>>62243679
Can't you find a cheaper battery?

>>62243461
w530 if you want a GPU. Can find one with a k2000m

>>62242610
Pls responde.

Welp, the deep dive into my Thinkpads has begun. Just bought 2 SSDs and 2 msata drives today.... That $448 better be worth it...

>>62236758
wait a fucking minute, how did you get that an x230 with that keyboard? Did you switch it out or did you get a x230 screen???

x230 $200
i5 / 8gb ram / 32gb ssd / ips display / 9 cell battery

How did I do for my first Thinkpad?

>>62243845
dude
you can swap out for old keyboards on the tx30 series
its crazy

>>62243937
I knew you could for the non tablet versions but I had never heard anyone report back about the tablet x230. I have a fetish for the tablet versions... I have an x200t and x220t. I want more but honestly I don't need more. I have a W520 on the way right now

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>>62242875
X230 does have drainage holes

>>62243461
You might also be able to get a refurbed t430/440 with a gpu, but they are somewhat more rare than the integrated graphics versions (in bongland at least)

>>62243030
I think your screen position sensor is bad. I'm not sure if it's on the camera/thinklight PCB but it is in that area, I think.

There should also be a strange magnet in the left side of the palm rest I think. That's what the magnet is for.

The magnet could be missing or moved.

https://www.amazon.de/Lenovo-ThinkPad-2447-A12-Zertifiziert-General%C3%BCberholt/dp/B07414SQ11/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504499359&sr=8-1&keywords=W530


Is this worth it?
I trying to find a laptop for my normie sister, who fucked her previous one up.
She wants it for college and playing the sims.


I mean you should have seen the previous one, her boyfriend """fixed""" the screen by putting screws in it. I dont know how that fucking retard gor so lucky and diddnt damage any chips with the drill he used.

>>62244026
I'm in the same situation.

>normie sisters first laptop dies after she manages to melt the plastic vent covers over the CPU fan exhaust.

>normie sisters second laptop dies after repeated and violent abuse. Unlike minorities, beating it won't make it work faster.

So, currently have a t430 on its way. I'd guess that battery life is important for college, so maybe go for a tn / non ips or whatever the current screen equivalent is. Also, just look up the minimum requirements for whatever sims game it is and go from there.

Know that it will break eventually, but you will be safe in the knowledge that the thinkpad died a warriors death.

>>62244089
I really dont want to buy used because I will hear it from my sister if she finds out.

Should I continue with a thinkpad or something else?Can you give me some general advice I dont have a clue about thinkpads, I only lurked here for 30 minutes and then went to amazon.

Also I got to give it to my sister, I would have thrown that piece of shit laptop out of the window ages ago, it was restarting on its own (propably from all the dust and hair) once every 4-5 hours and she still kept it for a year.

Ok faggots, got myself a t420 with an i5.

what is the best processor I can put into this thing?

You might be able to sway her opinion a little if you tell her how much it was worth new. If you have to go for something new,

otherwise, take a look at https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Thinkpad-14-Inch-Notebook-Black/dp/B07253HMXC/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1504507493&sr=1-3&keywords=thinkpad+-refurbished

from what I can tell from the one you posted, it is cheaper, trades the HDD for an SSD but it has no dedicated graphics, so you would have to check what the requirements are for running the sims.

>>62243734
Not a mint condition 9 cell one
>>62244200
If you upgrade it to an i7 prepare for 95+ c idle temps

>>62242833
Fuck, now I can't decide between one of these of a T420. Which one is honestly my best choice (using it for college)?

>>62244238
Get a new Chinese battery anon.

>>62244283
>get a new housefire
Show me a chink offbrand battery that can get me 7+ hrs on a t420

>>62244270
T420 or better. X40 is for enthusiasts to collect, not to use daily.

>>62244317
Literally all of them that don't cost $5 shipped
anything that's roughly the same size should get the same battery life
Shit I've had Chinese batteries that are slightly bigger and get me even better battery life.
>>62244270
I've got a t40 and outside of typing things into note pad (doubt it could run a modern version of word) it's god awfully slow.
>>62244200
anything dualcore will be fine, but not worth the upgrade
quadcores will work, but you better not even think about stressing the cpu and gpu at the same time unless you want to burn your house down.

>>62244345
Is there any aftermarket solution for heating? I got one with the nvidia gpu hoping to play light TF2/doom mods when my studies are light yet im away from home.

>>62244379
a cpu upgrade won't help with games
you are by far limited by your gpu.
only way to get better performance is through an egpu, or by getting a new laptop entirely.

>>62244410
Eh, thats were you are wrong with the source engine(TF2), still I just mostly wanted to best cpu for the thing because of modern programs being bloated(that and I like fucking around with my hardware).

I decided on a i7-3540M. Dual core and draws as much power as my current cpu.

>>62243994
Fug, tried with a speaker magnet on the pcb area and on the palmrest to no avail, maybe the magnet was too powerful? i don't know what else to do.

>>62244317
I would advise against this.
The individual batteries within the cheap laptop batteries start to fail and you can't easily tell which ones use lower quality internal batteries.
I've seen some 25 Eur batteries that had help only 40% of designed after a year.

>>62244430
ivy bridge wont work in *20 series thinkpads
and trust me that piss ant gpu is what's holding you back
even with the new fucked up source engine going from a t420 to a t430 makes a huge difference and the only real upgrade there is the gpu.

>>62244317
Ive heard some good things about greencell

>>62242893
>>62242957
Where to buy? I remember the guy posting about these before had the name AI, so I checked Patch Dynamics but there wasn't anything there.

Is it possible to do T420 weight mod?
Like remove some heavy shit from inside?

>>62244484
no the magnet is in the palm rest, the sensor is in the screen lid

>>62242833
>>only $30 or so
yeah I wish it was like this in Germoney. I saw one go for 130€ on ebay yesterday

>>62242893
>implying I ever leave home

>>62244720
I am from Croatia, we buy shit from Germany and then pay another 15€ for shipping

>>62244617
He's gonna sell them on patchdynamics next Thursday 6PM EST as far as I know. There are only limited numbers so you gotta be fast.

I just bought a W530. Unfortunately getting Linux working with Nvidia Optimus is really difficult and not fully supported. So it's going to run Windows 10 for a while.

Is waiting for the T480 or Retro worth it or should I just blow on a T470 now?

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Who else enjoys running their finger around the soft rim trackpoint?

>tfw you run your finger around the soft rim

>>62244847
You should wait; it won't be long now.

>>62244700
P-pls respond

>>62244767
He said the 7th, so this thursday.

>>62244961
"This Thursday" would mean that today is Thursday. The 7th is the next Thursday to come.

>>62244996
No???

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I found a T40 with this CardBus WiFi card. There seems to be drivers for Windows but I can't get it to work in Linux for the life of me. It lights up orange but clearly is not working. Does anyone have a clue what drivers I might need to get it to work?

>>62244908
Any chance of the Retro coming with a dedicated gpu?

>>62245083
Retro is most likely going to be a T470 with the old keyboard and a fancy logo so use your noggin

>>62244957
open it up and see if there's shit to remove

got a list of distros that work perfectly with x60? so far only deb and void work imo

Gonna get an X61t with 2GB RAM this week. Can't find any info on how many RAM sockets it has. Is it only one or does it have two?

>>62245120
Slackware is great for it.

>>62245154
It has two sockets and can use up to 8GB DDR2

>>62243771
Okay yeah I did
I was using them but I uninstalled them for a reason? I should reinstall them again

>>62243949
They all use the same keyboard assembly so yeah go nuts

>>62245094
T470 can come dedicated gpu where I live at least

>>62245188
>two sockets
thanks mate. I guess I'm gonna use a 64bit system then.

>>62242875
Yes >>62243955
And no lmaonovo dropped them on the newer models for some really good reason
They instead decided they knew better than IBM and said "I'll make the keyboard more water resistant so less water leaks in" although it was a retarded idea that

>>62245214
Oh, you should look up compatible RAM and stuff because I think Lenovo says only up to 4GB but you can use 8GB anyway.

>>62245235
If I can only manage to get 4GB working it's fine. I'm not gonna do extensive multi tasking. This thing will be more like a toy. I got it dirt cheap for European standards and I'm not gonna put too much time and effort into optimizing it.

>>62244026
>W530
>for sims
My dude
What?
You do realize the system requirements for sims 3 is a pentium 4, 2 GB of ram and a 128 gpu
Just a get a T420 or X220

>>62244879
I enjoy your presence my dude

>want to upgrade x230 ram, buy a new keyboard and battery
>sick of putting money into this because i hate its screen

reeeeee. too bad I'm too stupid to do that 1080p mod, what a great machine otherwise.

>>62245188
>8 GB of ddr2 sodimm
>in a two slot machine
??????????????

>>62245235
Lenovo says 4 because it is 4 you idiot
There are no 4gb sticks of ddr2
They only come at 2 max

>>62245332
Kingston actually sells 4GB DDR2 SO-DIMM sticks

>>62245394
Okay then my bad

>>62245427
I think they haven't shipped those in years though and they were insanely expensive. I think I'm gonna roll with 2x2GB. That's more than enough for an X61t anyways.

>>62245440
I've also never heard of 4gb ddr2 sticks too so I was a bit shocked myself

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>>62245350
Ignore me I'm a fag

>>62245457
Obviously uncommon and honestly, I probably wouldn't want these in my computer. 4GB is extremely big for DDR2 and I don't think they're very reliable.

>>62245576
That's way too expensive anyways. I can get 2x2GB for like 30€. 8GB for at least $140 is just insane.

Should I get this for alienware mod?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/nigger/401102839119
it's cheapest one on ebay for EU delivery, but it's probably fake

hows arch on x60?

>>62244791
Keyword: PRIME

>>62242833
Is there a difference between x40 and x60 keyboard?

>>62246501
The overall feel of the keyboard differs from generation to generation, and even within the same generation because the keyboards were made by up to 3 different manufacturers. It's hard to pinpoint what exactly the differences are though.

Dunno if you can help here but I'm confused with a refurbished laptop I'm buying. It's some older Latitude with a first gen i5. The guy said the battery is missing but he already planned to put in a new one. It's currently at 2GB RAM, Win7 Pro and I'm planning to use it for stuff like PSP emulation. Translated into CZK is 4000.
Is it a good buy? The guys also had some T420s but they said they were all fucked.

>>62246817
Imo not worth more than 150 USD with no battery

>>62246922
Wait, I got it now, it's a Latitude E6410.

>>62246938
7 year old hardware
If it caught fire how much are you willing to lose

How can you support Lenovo after superfish?

>>62246991
well not much because I keep my shit off and I'm in a pretty damn cold room. It's missing the fucking drivers for an internet connection.

Should I get an E570 or a T460? Both with an I5 and ssd.

>>62244497
>ivy on t420
Coreboot bitch

>>62247021
>superfish
Only ideapads and other budget chink shit..... Also are you that much of a pleb to not do a fresh install of whatever the fuck normie OS you run?

Lenovo Thinkpad T430 Business Notebook (Intel Core i5 Dual Core 2.6GHz, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, DVD Writer, 35.6 cm (14) 1366 X 768, Danish Keyboard, Windows 7 Professional)

Is this a scam?

Looks too good

>>62247727
How many snowshekels?

>>62247727
https://www.amazon.de/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Dual-Core-DVD-Brenner-Betriebssystem/dp/B011C7H76O/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1504529090&sr=8-18&keywords=thinkpad+refurbished

I fucked up with the link.

>>62247043
T460. E series is pure consumer garbage. T series is at least somewhat stable.

>>62247811
Hm.. they're offering two models, one in good condition, the other on acceptable. To be honest, the good condition one is too expensive. You can get a refurbished T430 for less than 280 Eurobucks.

>>62247835
Where?

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Help

Do I need to buy new hinges too or just a rollcage?

>>62247816
But the T460 as a 738p screen.

>>62247847
Are you German? The ones on Amazon had German keyboards. If yes, try out Luxnote.

https://www.luxnote-hannover.de

I've been shilling them for quite some time here. Their laptops are professionally refurbished and the prices are not too bad by European standards.

T430
2.6GHz i5
4GB RAM
320GB HDD
1600x900

265€

Americans will reeeeeee but this is just how expensive it is in Europe. At least you get good quality here. I've bought a T400, an R400, an X220 and an X230 there and I've never had a reason to complain.

>>62247897
The crack is not in the hinge. Go figure.

>>62247727
>1366 X 768
>too good

lel

>>62247937
Just noticed, they're shipping to most EU countries.

T420 without Nvidia,
Is it normal that the Displayport isn't working under Windows 10?

This is gf's laptop, if I hookup my own Ganoo/Loonux T420/X220 to the same adapter/hdmi/display it works, but hers doesn't.
Tried troubleshooting everything I could think of.
Looking up online, all I'm seeing is "PM sent ;)" and "This product is not supported anymore by Intel, thus is not compatible with Windows 10, please install a compatible OS"

I'm confident that the port works, as I've already used it in the past. Now it seems like it won't detect anymore, for some reason.

>>62247963
Yeah Im gonna order a T 440 from there, thanks mate.

Although its too bad they dont have keyboards in more languages or offer to order without os for less money.

>>62248247
>without os for less money
exactly this.

Is the Intel Pentium Quad Core N4200 better than the I5 3320 M?

>>62248357

Surprisingly, no. It's significantly worse. Only difference between N3700 and N4200 is 100Mhz more speed + better iGPU.

See: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-N3710-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3320M/m141841vsm402

>>62243929
Get the keyboard for the x220 and swap them. I think they're compatible. And if you need get a larger ssd, then you'll have a really nice machine.

>>62248590
They are compatible but on the old keyboard 2 pins have to be taped over (the ones that carry current for backlight LEDs on the new keyboard) and a modified BIOS has to be installed to get the function keys to work.

>>62248241
install gentoo

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I've been thinking lately.
The original VW Beetle is kinda the ThinkPad of cars, isn't it? Maybe not beautiful to a young beholder but
solid, reliable and it feels nice. There's one major difference though: The Beetle was concieved as a car
for Joe Workingman. ThinkPads are a bit too expensive to be the Volkscomputer. So, if you had to design said
Volkscomputer, what would it look like? What would the features be?

My concept:
The two different models of the Volkscomputer should be based on the T40 and X40. By that I mean, the case
should be equally sturdy and well made. Of course, when it comes to I/O and computing power they should
be more capable than laptops were back in the day. Now, keep in mind this concept would only work in an
ideal world. A non-botnet modern dual core CPU should be sufficient. Core2 CPUs are aging, which is why the
CPU should rather be comparable to a current gen i5. 8GB RAM should be standard with an option for a 16GB
upgrade. dGPU must also be an option on the larger model. Ports should include USB type A, Ethernet, digital
video out, maybe eSATA and Expresscard. As for displays, resolution should be first priority. 3:4 on 12" and 14"
models and a 16:10 option for 14" models.
If I had to list all available configurations, it would go something like this:

12" 1400x1050, 2x2GHz or 2x2.5GHz, 8GB RAM or 16GB RAM, eGPU support
14" 1600x1200, 2x2.5GHz or 2x3GHz or 4x2.5GHz, 8GB RAM or 16GB RAM, iGPU or dGPU, eGPU support
14" 1680x1050 or 1920x1200, 2x2.5GHz or 2x3GHz or 4x2.5GHz, 8GB RAM or 16GB RAM, iGPU or dGPU, eGPU support

They wouldn't be the most powerful laptops on the market but I'd rather save some money on power than on
overall quality.
The main problem is that most people don't know what's good for them. This will stay a concept because the
average consumer won't ever buy a 4:3 laptop that looks like pic related.

Tomorrow, I'm getting my new T470s.
First time with a ThinkPad. Any tips? Recommended distro? (Gentoo excluded)

(Btw, got the i7-7500U, 8GB ram edition, for 990€)

I can find my x240 Windows serial key, is it alright if I sell laptop with Windows LTSB?

>>62248883
But I did Anon, I used Gentoo for a while, I'm running Arch right now on all my machines, it's more comfy to me.

This laptop however, has to run Widows for work specific software.

Anyway, does anyone run Win 10 on a T420 with HD3000 graphics? If so, could that Anon confirm that the displayport does work?

I have an L420 that's been running pretty well for me for a long time and I've heard from a few friends of mine that it can be upgraded with different parts. Would any of you happen to know what I should look out for?

>>62245725
You should ask the seller if he has LP140WD2 (TL)(G1) in stock. And probably has not.

T440p with physical button trackpad swap.

Criticise this machine. Seems pretty good to me.

Good battery life
Strong processor
dGPU
1080p IPS
Very modular
Solid construction

Cons seem to be keyboard layout, but that's the case with anything post 2011.

>>62244718
The magnet is there and everything but the laptop doesn't react when moving the magnet next to the camera.

>>62248971
>Tomorrow, I'm getting my new T470s.
>First time with a ThinkPad. Any tips? Recommended distro? (Gentoo excluded)
>(Btw, got the i7-7500U, 8GB ram edition, for 990€)
Brand new?

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I bought an X220, and was a fucking idiot, and didn't actually create a recovery disk or anything for my computer, now it's running Linux Mint, but I want the option to switch back to windows if my heart desires.
How the fuck can I get back the factory OEM iso and driver disk? I tried entering the S/N on Lenovo's site, but they said it wasn't eligible or something

>>62249933
Drivers are available from the official website.
You can install Windows using any retail disc/iso.

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>>62249334

It's pretty good.

I just wish they made a trackpad with the physical buttons from the xx50 and the trackpad feel from the xx40.

>>62249972
Doesn't it have to be an actual ISO from lenovo though?

>>62249933
>install Windows
>install .NET Framework
>Install Lenovo SystemUpdate
>drivers get installed automatically
>profit

>>62250000
See >>62250004
All you have to do is download the SystemUpdate setup from Lenovo and it will detect your system and install all the drivers

>>62250000
There's no such thing as an actual ISO from Lenovo.

>>62250004
Ah, makes sense.
Thanks.

>>62250000
Nah, just download an iso from msdn or wherever the fuck people download clean iso files nowadays and activate your OS using the key that came witk your 'pad
After that, just do this >>62250004 and you'll be ready to go.

>>62249933
use the model number not serial number

>How the fuck can I get back the factory OEM iso and driver disk?
you can always buy it for like $20 or whatever

but you can always get Windows iso's for free from Microsoft and Lenovo should have the drivers up still, just make sure the Windows version is the correct version for your key

>>62249988
What does the construction feel like? I read that it's all plastic unlike a lot of the models. This would concern me a bit if it compromised it's durability.

Does coreboot work well with x220? What are the benefits?

>>62250064
I wasn't aware it was any different to other models. It's still got an inner metal frame, it's as tough as any other nu ThinkPad. Arguably tougher, it's a bit thicker and heavier than most.

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>>62250054
Tfw Digitalriver just opens up this now.

>>62242864
I think 2000 is better. The unremovable landfill in 3000 is very annoying.

is it possible to run any thinkpad with eGPU inside VM (KVM)?

>>62249933

on thepiratebay there is a T420 OEM recovery installation. Any xx20 or xx30 series OEM installation will work and it will auto activate via slic 2.1 OEM activation

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>>62250491
sim city got nothing on heroes

So I have been using my t520 for a couple days now, but I still don't know what these clickers above the trackpad are. Are they just extra mouse buttons? Seems redundant.

>>62251382
So you can point and click with the red nub without moving your hand at all.

>>62251382
that's because the touchpad and touchpad buttons are for retarded normalfag plebs

trackpoint master race

>>62251382
If you use the trackpoint you use these to click with your thumb. You should disable the trackpad anyways.

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>>62251354
Can't disagree with that.

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post em

>>62251478
How are digitizer and screen rotation working for you?

>>62251489
they aren't
I haven't tried though tbqh, i'm sure there's a workaround using i3 but I can't be fucked to fix it right now
Everything works on ubuntu and fedora but ubuntu makes it run slow as fuck whereas void feels like an SSD, especially if you're like me and you want to use it just as a 4chan machine

>>62251410
>>62251422
>>62251433
What's wrong with the trackpad? I don't want to use that red button anyways. I have to slow down whenever i get close somewhere I want to be on the screen and I can't tap it to click. If anything, I'd disable that.

Hi Guys, I want a laptop well suited for my homosexual tastes. Dell seems the best solution for me as it is subtly inferior to but bears the strongest resemblance to ThinkPads that heterosexuals use.

What would be Dell equivalent of a P51?

>>62251478
What OS is that? Looks fancy. I'm using Linux Mint MATE right now, how can I get that fancy leet hax0r looking terminal up?

I have to use a cheap made super slow non-ssd dell for work and I really wish they'd just wipe my thinkpad and run their OS on it just so I could work better and faster.
>Slow dell versus thinkpad upgraded ram+ssd
>The keyboards are out of this world on TP
>Makes me so angry

>>62251547
>>62251547
kek my friends just bullied me for how ugly my rice is, i'm surprised you like it
it's just void with i3, I hid the status bar, used terminus because it's easy to make transparent and fucked with the colours a bit

Wallpaper courtesy of the current art thread on /wg/

>>62251523
The trackpoint is the superior input method. I'd use it over a mouse any day. You got to set the sensitivity as high as you possibly bear and after a few days of getting used to it you increase sensitivity again. Do this in steps and once you reach maximum sensitivity it's gonna be the best user experience ever. You should never have to take your fingers off the home row. That's the fundamental design flaw with every single mouse input method except the trackpoint.

>>62244270
The X40 will run all your office software but if you're using (((courseware))) it might be too slow.

>>62244720
>>62244750
I feel sorry for you fags, but I want Japanese Thinkpads next.

>>62246501
X40 has a slightly softer touch keyboard than the X60, I like it better. The only way to figure out if you do too would be to try one but the action is positive.

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>>62251478
winfaggot coming through

>tfw your ssd runs hotter than your processor

>>62244996
No?
Next Thursday suggests you skip the Thursday THIS week, and go to next week's Thursday

>>62251523
>What's wrong with the trackpad?
you have to remove your fingers from the home row to get to it

Can I put a T410/X201 keyboard on a T430?

>>62249684
Yup, brand new, out of the box

Getting it from my school, which have huge discounts, thanks to partnership and bulk price

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Whats the better deal? Help me /tpg/ you are my only hope!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T530-Laptop-2-9GHz-i7-8GB-500GB-2394-DQ4-1920-x-1080/232471115214?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

or

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T530-Laptop-2-9GHz-i7-8GB-500GB-2394-DQ4-1920-x-1080/232471115214?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

>>62251992
the t530

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>be me
>major autist
>get Thinkpad on eBay
>gotta pay via bank transfer
>write payment data down
>off to the bank
>at bank terminal, typing in payment data
>notice something
>forgot the € sign on my handwritten note
>instead of 50,00€ it just says 50,00
>triggers my autism so bad I run home and make a new note
>formatting has to be perfect
>off to the bank again

>>62252065
I feel you my man
but it's read by a machine anyways so it doesn't really matter, if you feel better redoing it over such a small mistake do it
I am autistic about sheets though, I hate having them in bad condition and it honestly triggers me to no definitive end

>>62252109
It's not read by a machine. The bank terminal has a keyboard that you have to use to type everything in manually. It just triggered me that I fucked up my note.

>>62252125
btw I know that online banking is a thing but to activate it for my account I'd have to talk to a bank employee and I can't possibly do that

>>62244317
I've bought a number of semi-generic Chinese batteries and they have all held up well.

If you drain your battery deeply every time no batteyr will last very long. For optimal life don't drain a bettery below 30% or so.

>>62252125
where are you living?

>>62251992
>>62252033

whoops im a fucking idiot

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-128GB-SSD-Intel-Core-i5-2nd-Gen-2-5GHz-4GB-Notebook/142238872304?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649#rwid

>>62244879
I like the feel of the soft rim but it seems to be harder to control than the dome.

>>62252258
The t530 ofc. Hows that even up for debate? The screen is the sole deciding factor.

>>62242780
desu if the retro is literally a rebranded t470 i'm just going to buy a 15'' mbp (with function keys).
I'm tired of waiting around for a nice looking ultrabook if there isn't going to be any

>>62252372
>If "A" turns out to be a bucket of shit, I might as well buy "B", truck of shit, instead.

>>62252415
As opposed to "C - Z" piles of shit

Bros I downloaded Vim on my T60. Now what compiler do you recommend so I can do some C++ coding?

>>62252258
>>62252301
On another note, t530 is big and a bit heavy, so size might be a let down. Now the innards would be a good determinant. Those depend on your needs. I would've gone with t530, even if t420 comes with a monitor.

>>62252453
GCC can compile C++

>>62252518
I googled and I see it's for linux. Got windows 7 on this old thing. Too broke to afford an external hard drive to store my shit to make the change.

>>62247021
I don't, but how can you support Intel after the Management Engine debacle?

>>62248898
I like how you think. I think it would be best done without Intel-compatible CPUs, maybe Risc-V or ARM, and include two hot-swap batteries, a real serial port, a couple USB ports, GigE, and Wifi / BT with hardware kill switch (physically powers down the radios and disconnects antennas).

>>62252569
>find free cloud service
>upload your data
>install Linux or BSD
>re-download data

>>62252776
Thanks, half of the shit is porn though lol. I'll just have to save up before getting linux.

cunts

>>62252687
>without Intel-compatible CPUs

I'd like the machine to run on free software only of course and having free hardware is an absolute must here. I wouldn't mind if there was a free x86 CPU though.

I think the real flaw in my idea is, that the average consumer doesn't know about free software and will probably avoid it when presented with its limitations.
People want Netflix, Amazon, Facebook etc. while my concept assumes that the users will primarily use a computer to practice free speech and maybe to gain
knowledge and improve themselves but I guess that's just somewhat delusional.

The conclusion is that the target group exists but is too limited to actually make money with that product. Only a non-profit organization backed by people with
piles of money and even bigger piles of good will could pull this off. But serving such a limited target group would defeat the purpose. It's supposed to be the
Volkscomputer after all.

How much do you think this W530 is really worth?

goo DOT gl/JHv7tL

>>62242833
This dude again...

>>62245060
Try on the "Linux Friendly" threads

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>>62251890
Please respond

>>62247101
The T420 is Sandy, not Ivy

>>62252883
You had your trannie shit / HP / Dell ads and links to your gay ass site up in the OP long enough you faggot trannie.

>>62251890
>>62253127
no

>>62253167
Fuck you too

>>62252972
The target group is mainly neckbeards who want a practically indestructable laptop, not normies who (((consume content))) like sheep.

It's more than possible to make money selling low-production high end items, read HIGH-MIX by Mahoney.

Frankly the Volkscomputer is a phone these days.

>>62253180
Fuck yourself, that was an actual reply. You can't use a T410/X201 keyboard on an X230. It has to be from an X220 or T420. Generations aren't typically compatible.

>>62253208
isn't the t410 the same as the t420 thus also compatible with the t430?

>>62253141
it'll work anyway if you have coreboot

>>62252569
You can get a GCC for windows.

Boys, if you had to chose, which one would you get?
1) Thinkpad W550s (15.6", 2880x1620, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, Intel Core i7-5600U, NVIDIA - Quadro K620 2GB)
2) Dell Latitude E5470 (14", 1920x1080, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, Intel Core i7-6600U, AMD Radeon R7 M360)
3) Dell Latitude E5570 (15.6", 1920x1080, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, Intel Core i7-5600U, AMD Radeon R7)

>>62253245
Following your logic, you can put an X60 keyboard on a T430

>>62253298
Oh ok, got windows 7

>>62253317
W550s or E470

>>62253317
>dual core ulv shit
none

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>>62253317
>dell

>>62244270
Get a T420 or T410 if you want an Intel Core CPU. I had a T420 with an i7 CPU and it ran beautifully, even running virtual machines. It should suit your needs unless you're doing very heavy encoding or something. It can also run Windows 10 without any problems or hiccups, if you're into that.

If you're just using it for note-taking, productivity software (spreadsheets, word processing, presentations, etc.), light browsing, even a T400 or X200 will be more than powerful enough. I used an X200t (with a low-voltage Core2Duo) in university and it worked perfectly Linux. I still use it to this day.

This guy recently made a video about using an X61 for college (using a lightweight Linux distro):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCOEGWxPfMA

It really depends on your budget and how much computing power you need.

>>62253384
ULV is perfect for a laptop.

If you want a desktop CPU in a laptop get one of those homosexual Alienwares.

>>62252372
It is literally a re-branded t470. The 15" MBP is a decent enough machine if you can tolerate the shitty, shitty keyboard.

>>62253261
>coreboot
>closed-blob software
>possible botnet
hm

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>>62251478
Fuck yeah, X-series tablets.

>>62251713
>*40 series
>msata
what

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>>62242780
Hi /tpg/ help me decide wich thinkpad should I buy (as a secondary TP)

What would you choose and why?

X61 ~$90 USD
Core2 Duo @2.1 GHz
2GB RAM DDR2
80GB HDD

X200 ~$100 USD
Core2 Duo @2.4 GHz
2GB RAM DDR3
80GB HDD

>Pic from Wikipedia for ilustration purposes

>>62253820
X200. It's better in every way except aspect ratio, and both are libreboot-capable.

>>62253820
X61, much better keyboard feel.

>>62253503
>t470
>not an original machine by itself
>not even a t470p
Fucking lelnovo, can't they do anything right?

>>62253820
X61 because 4:3

I'm not a freetard so trannyboot isn't a bonus for me though, maybe it is for you and x200 would be a better choice.

>>62253960
>2017
>1024x768

>>62253538
I was under the impression that Chicago95 wouldn't work with mate.

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I finally librebooted my X60 and it feels soooooo good.

>>62253413
Budget's not really a problem. I think I'll go with the T420, and do some upgrades to it.

>>62253947
Somehow business users keep buying their chinktops, I guess that's what matters to them.

>>62254043
fuck you
my sides have left the realms of men but at the same time this fucking hit me hard

>>62253971
On a 12" screen that's retina resolution, my math-challenged friend.

>>62253971
comfy as fug

>>62254103
Nah, It's 106PPI but it's OK.

>>62254126
At a typical viewing distance it's retina resolution.

>>62254103
from what? 7 feet away?
people hate lenovo for putting a 1366x768 screen on the x230
you'd have to be absolutely blind to actually want a 12" 1024x768 screen in 2017

>>62254354
>from what? 7 feet away?
What's the smallest angle the eye can subtend at about 2 1/2 feet?

It's retina resolution at a typical laptop viewing distance.

>>62254354
>from what? 7 feet away?
PPI isn't dependent on distance. it measures the number of pixels per diagonal inch.
btw I'm not saying I could use this resolution as my daily driver but it's comfy for shitposting and reading PDFs.

>>62254375
a retina screen is typically viewed from the same distance. PPI is significantly lower on the Thinkpad. that's just a fact.

>>62254410
Retina means your eyes can't see individual pixels from a typical viewing distance. It is not a constant but depends on screen size.

>>62254475
Of course it depends on screen size. But the lowest PPI retina screen available is that of the 15" MBP. That's 220PPI. More than twice as much as 12" 1024x768 screen.
Both are viewed from the same distance. You don't put an X60 twice as far away from you as a MBP, do you?

>>62254515
OK actually the lowest PPI apple offers is the 5k 27" iMac (217PPI)

>>62254515
Retina simply means your eyes can't discern individual pixels at a certain viewing distance, which of course depends on screen size and viewing distance.

I'll ask again, what's the smallest angle the eye can subtend?

People who can't do math believe 4K > 1080 > 640 but they don't realize that viewing distance is what matters most.

For a person with 20/20 vision to see the difference between 640 and 1080 they'd have to site closer than two screen diagonals, and for that person to see the differenc between 1080 and 4K they'd have to sit closer than ***1/2 the screen diagonal*** and similar math can be applied to computer screens.

It's pretty easy math after all.

>>62254013
It does, although IIRC there were some issues.

>>62254704
So you're telling me you can't tell pixels apart on a 12" 1024x768 screen at arm's length. That's concerning. Are you allowed to drive?

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>>62254704
>People who can't do math believe 4K > 1080 > 640

>>62253503
>It is literally a re-branded t470
and how do you know this?

What thinkpad has the best gpu?
At least 1080p.

>>62254786
Lenovo said their prototype is based on the E470. The hardware is identical to that of the T470. If they incorporate T series features, it is a rebranded T470.

>>62254814
what does GPU have to do with resolution

>>62254814
almost anything made in the last 10 years can power a 1080p screen

>>62254820
Even if it was using the internals, a new keyboard and potentially a new panel would not qualify as a "rebrand". it would be functionally different.
and a keyboard is definitely worth waiting a month, unless you are a millionaire.

>>62254834
>>62254840
I didn't think the question was too difficult. I added the 1080 part because I know they had nvidia gpu's in thinkpads below 1080p resolution.

>>62254767
What's the smallest angle the eye can subtend at a typical laptop viewing distance of 2 1/2 feet?

>>62254768
Learn math, it'll help you in life.

>>62254786
Lenovo admitted it newfag.

>>62254908
>Lenovo admitted it newfag
source?

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Another night chilling with my T430 in bed. Gonna watch The Hobbit and go to sleep.

Buying a T430 was one of the best decisions I have ever made.

>>62254908
>What's the smallest angle the eye can subtend at a typical laptop viewing distance of 2 1/2 feet?
That sentence makes absolutely no sense. There's no angle here. It's just a fact that I can see individual pixels on my X61t at arm's length and my vision isn't the best by far.

>>62254927
>>62236708

What's the best Thinkpad (in terms of technical specs) that's compatible with Libreboot? The W500?

What is the best thinkpad for gaming and is it the quadro ones?

>>62254973
>There's no angle here.
Confirmed for retarded math-disabled pilpul practitioner.

>>62254978
Pretty much. But I think the W700 can be specced a bit higher.

>>62254977
There's a huge leap from "based on" to "rebrand". Not everyone cares too much about the internals, there are other options if the only important part is that it has to serve a poweruser. For me it's entirely interface and keyboard layout that draws me, that's what I need in my laptop.

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>Lenovo in charge of making an actual """retro""" ThinkPad

Meanwhile, some small Chinese company is modding the T60 ("T70") to include modern components:
>15 inch IPS screen with a resolution of 1400x1050
>Intel Core i7-7700HQ CPU
>32GB-DDR4 RAM

Why are you going to buy a "retro" ThinkPad based on the T470 when you can buy a used T70 in a few years? Pic related.

>>62254996
why would you get a thinkpad for gaming?

>>62255044
Business users don't care about the keyboard and /g/ doesn't want a typical chinkpad.

They failed to identify their real market and go after it. They should fire their market research Jews and listen exclusively to /g/ next time.

>>62254996
You'll be lucky if you can get 30fps out of Gamecube games from 2002 on a Thinkpad.

>>62255061
I wish they'd do one with RiscV when it comes out. I'm sick of this Intel botnet.

>>62255072
>why would you get a thinkpad for gaming?

Why else would I buy a computer?

>>62254908
I'm pretty good math and 4k > 1080 > 640 is definitely true

>>62255061
We need a major company to actually make a modern tall panel though.

>>62242833
I have one. the fan is so loud. i only run linux on it though.

>>62255084
I'm a business user, I want a better keyboard. Do you think work prohibits a need for a functional keyboard and ergonomics? it's all about a good workflow.
Solid internals are all well and good, but I need a tall screen and a seven row keyboard to optimize my productivity far more.

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Does your thinkpad enjoy it when you play with her clitmouse?

What's a good price for a W500? Is Ktgee's guide still reliable?

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>>62254997
english isn't my native language so maybe you mean something entirely different from what I think you mean, but to me pic related is an angle. so where's the angle when looking at a screen? I mean, there's a viewing angle but that doesn't have anything to do with distinguishing pixels

>>62255139
My thinkpad is is male you gaywad.

>>62255133
Business users by and large don't care about chicklet chinkboards, otherwise Lelnovo wouldn't have put them in everything.

>>62255157
>how does the eye work
>what is vision
You're not very good at pilpul.

>>62254908
I like my X60 and X40 but I gotta say, you're a massive retard. Or blind. If you really can't see the pixels from a typical viewing distance, something is seriously wrong with you.

>>62255153
It depends entirely on what country you're in and what features the W500 has.

>>62255132
>fan is loud
That's hard to believe, my fan almost never turns on with tlp.

Have you installed and configured tlp, anon? If so, what settings did you change?

>>62255199
What's the smallest angle the eye of a person with 20/20 vision can subtend at a distance of 2 1/2 feet?

>>62255163
I don't care about chicklet keyboards either. I care about the layout. And business users stopped using them because the option simply stopped existing, not because the new layout sold better.

>>62255226
I don't know, what is it?

>>62255226
>t. someone who is out of arguments so he just has to copy paste the same shit about visual angles again and again
seriously dude, take a look at your 1024x768 screen. if you can't see the pixels, you need glasses. it's as easy as that

>>62252065
i thought that jewbay accepts only paypal? when did that change

What are some good sleep options for the X230 with a 9cell?

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New bread!

>>62255276

Classic format.

>>62255276

>>62255284
I transferred the money directly to the seller.

If you people don't game on them, then what do you use thinkpads for?

>>62255243
Do the math yourself and discover that retina isn't determined by a specific PPI in isolation. Viewing distance is critical to consider.

>>62255259
I have 20/20 vision. Why aren't you doing math right now instead of practicing your pilpul?

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>>62255276

>>62255276

>>62255276

>>62253503
>shitty keyboard
>2017 having a brand new laptop with a good keyboard
At least I would be getting a decent screen, hope applel doesn't fuck up and get rid of the function keyed mbp when updating the processors to the latest intel

>>62255337
I just measured my typical viewing distance, which appears to be somewhere between 60cm and 65cm. Doing the math right now with 63cm.

>>62254767
the real problem with this resolution would be that no content would fit on the screen. modern responsive design pages are so big that just the menu buttons would fill the screen.

>>62255435
I haven't come across a website that wasn't usable

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N E W
E
W

Tranny-free thread.

>>62255276

>>62255276

>>62255276

>>62255310
People game on them all the time, it's just that post-SJW games are total shit and everything from before that era began will run great on an older Thinkpad.

>>62255422
OK at that distance the angle one pixel produces is roughly 0.025 deg
can't find information on what is minimum for the human eye though.
still, the fact remains that I can see the individual pixels, for example on the diagonal line of the mouse cursor (windows 7, standard size cursor)

>>62255302
60€ ChinkSSD 240gb
+4gb Ram (now 8gb)
Not going to spend a cent more.

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>>62255545
You're almost there!

>>62254996
If you want to do gaymen on a Thinkpad, get one with an express card slot and get an eGPU. X220/30 and T520/T420/30 all have a bunch of documentation on how it's pulled off.

The W series though lacks documentation, though I got a 1050 Ti working on mine with relative ease. It was more or less plug and play.

>>62255703
By the time you've done all that you've bought a desktop though.

Thinkpads are for older gaymes and emulation.

>>62254103
>Anything less than 140ppi
Get the fuck out of here

>>62254704
Did I mention MATH
yeah it's just some MATH my dude, heh, pretty easy for a someone with my calibre of intelligence. Do the math KID

>>62255061
Yeah it sucks that Lenovo doesn't go find shady backdoor dealers to by hi-res 4:3 displays. Why can't they just look on eBay for some?

>>62255840
Lenovo could easily custom-order some 4:3 screens. People make custom screen orders all the time, have for decades. Surely a multi-billion dollar company could do it if fucking Adafruit can.

>>62255864
>Adafruit moves the same amount of units as Lenovo
>Adafruit has the same quality scrutiny as lenovo

>>62255895
Neither one of which were claims, merely that if a fly by night garage operation can make a custom screen order, Lelnovo can too.

Whenever I play games on my laptop (T430, W10) lately left clicks are not being recognized about half the time. On two different mice and the trackpoint buttons. It doesn't seem to happen in normal usage. Do you guys have any suggestions?

>>62255912
But in order for Lenovo to order screens the supplier has to meet their standards. A company refused to commission a job from us because we had a cable on the floor that didn't meet h&s standards, now imagine that with a company the size of Lenovo

>>62254939
Too bad you didn't get a T420s, T400, X200, X220.

>>62255963
>But in order for Lenovo to order screens the supplier has to meet their standards.
Yep, I never claimed otherwise. Certainly a company like Lelnovo making a large contract with a screen manufacturer would stipulate that the screens meet a certain level of quality.

Expand your mind and think before you post kid.

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>>62255963
>chink standards

>>62255766
>By the time you've done all that you've bought a desktop though.
It's substantially cheaper than buying a desktop, and can more or less be "plug n played". You just have to shut down your thinkpad each time you want to take it on the go with you.

Unless you're point is you want to game on the go, in which case you've picked the wrong machine for the job.

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>>62242780
ok bois
I bought a T410i for very cheap... very... very cheap
Might dual boot with Windows XP or 7, due to the old age of the thinkpad, and also Debian or Ubuntu
thoughts?

>>62245094
>>62252372
>literally a rebranded t470
Yeah but the t470 doesn't have the "classic" keyboard. Also, if you care about keyboards so much, why on earth would you purchase a macbook?
>>62252415
This
>>62255061
I think thinkpad users were the Enterprise crowd. Why would the Enterprise crowd purchase modified ten year old laptops? Not even American public schools are that desperate. They'd sooner purchase Chromebooks (in-fact, some have).

>>62255072
>>62254996
>>62255072
>>62255107
While there are laptops that are well suited to gaming, generally Thinkpads are not among them. There are thinkpads that are very high-end and can be quite suitable for gaming but let's be real: Thinkpads (at least the T and X series) are designed to be durable, not xxxgamingxxx machines.

With all that being said, the Thinkpad P50 would probably make a decent "gaming computer." At its price on Amazon, I suggest you build yourself a desktop PC and you will not only save money but probably have better hardware in the long run.

>>62257170
Debian is a pain in the ass. I suggest going with Ubuntu or a variant thereof. There really isn't much that is special about Debian anymore.

>>62257231
Oh, ok, personally I like the way the debian desktop looks, but Ubuntu seems easy to manage.

>>62257170
what do you consider cheap

>>62257702
it was $60 so....

Why do you people keep shilling fullhd screens?
Even with 15 inch everything is tiny as fuck and scaling is shit and not a solution.