/pcbg/ PC Building General

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Sup /pcbg/, got the design I posted a few backs made into stickers, they're going to go up on my site on the 7th at 6pm est if anyone is interested.

Anons, anyway to make this build better?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jPYkNN
At least the monitor.

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From dead thread:

Currently using an i5 2500k and gtx 970, can't decide on either a 1080 or a 1700x mainly for having discord/Firefox on one monitor, guild wars 2 in the other.

>>62236228
What's the link? Look pretty nice desu

>>62236268
I'd get the Ryzen, that GTX 970 is pretty strong.

>>62236228
I like them, Link?

>>62236228
Nice, I'm going to need a link.

>>62236268
ryzen 5 1600 is more than enough for your usage

>>62236328

That's another thing I'm at a crossroads with, mostly because the 1700x got brought down to 299 again. I may get 1600 then instead.

If i want to use the 144hz meme in my new monitor, the R5 1600 will be enough? Or I must stick with 7700k?

should i OC my vega 64 if im stuck with a 750w psu right now?

>>62236367
no

>>62236386
well how much more headroom should i give myself?

>>62236254
You can get faster ram for the same price, and you might want to check out a Phanteks P400

1500$
Gayming
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KxCHHN

>>62236444
You dont need a 1700 for gaming senpai. Save some money and go for 1600

>>62236038
Not from the US and I don't want to wade through unfamiliar sites but your build should look like something like this:

Antec GX500
ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS
AMD Ryzen 5 1500X 3.6 GHz 18MB
EVGA GQ 650W
Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2400MHz CL14 Vengeance LPX
ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Dual OC
Samsung 850-Series EVO 500GB

This comes in under 1000€, and without EU existential taxes and currency compensation, it should be at around $900. Either treat yourself to a a 2-3TB HDD or a standard IPS 24" FHD monitor.

You should see what deals you can score first, not necessarily copy and paste this list.

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>>62236280
>>62236287
>>62236323
Google patch dynamics, I'll be the first result.

They'll be tree fiddy each at 3" long. I going to stick one to the inside of my case personally.

who likely is it that a lot of devs will start optimizing for 6 cores since a lot of new pcs will have ryzen 1600s?

>>62236486
Amazing, saved for future usage

>>62236444
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qFM9M8

>>62236479
And I forgot about a CPU cooler, but that should just be an extra $50 or so.

>>62236487
AAA games already use 6+ cores and with Kaby Lake release (6 cores i5/i7) it's going to get more common, no one actually gives a shit about AMD users.
Indie garbage and games from smaller devs will continue to use 2-4 cores and rely on single threaded performance, because they're too retarded to optimize their shit for 6+ cores.

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Looking to buy a new monitor for making games/watching movies/ps4.

Is the BENQ GW2470H any good? I see it's on sale for £100 from £180.

>>62236479
terrible build.
>shit case
>1500x instead of 1600
>psu could be better
>slow ram
>3gb 1060
>prioritising ssd instead of cpu/gpu
i hope no one takes you seriously

>>62236670
Then make it better with a monitor and for less than 1000 dollars.

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Good deal?

>>62236774
Fucking hilarious

>>62236774
yeah jump on that right now

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>>62236774
Ahahahahahahaha no.

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>>62236774
I thought I was in a ylyl thread for a moment
You can't be serious

>>62236670
Anon is a casual gamer on a budget.

Even the 1500x is overkill for his usage, and he wont be playing anything over 1080p@60hz anytime soon, so the 1060 is just right and anything over it is a waste.

>this $40 case is shit compared to this $80 case, even on a budget, duh

And no one else replied to the guy, stop being a cunt.

>>62236774
Worth $500.

>>62236585
Contrast isn't amazing and colours aren't great but for the price its alright, if I where you I'd spend 220 on a nice Samsung monitor.

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>>62236774
Did they mention their free 1 year warranty is included for a limited time as well?

>>62236774

I hope someone unironically buys this

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>>62236774

>>62236806
I actually not only game, but also program and edit videos.
I think I will kill the budget shit.
This is how it's going: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Yjvyf

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>>62236774
Dear lord, wew.

>>62236774
This should be an OP image at some point

>>62237540
I vote next thread

>>62237089

>Getting the Budget 1440p/165hz Gsync monitor

At least get the XB271HU or PG279Q

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anyone have a recommendation for a 1 to 4k computer that can screen record? I'm knew to this pc stuff since I trade crypto only and I don't really care about the parts I just was wondering if anyone already has a premade list of parts for a computer like this in the 1 to 4k range ty

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Opinions on my build?

>>62237089
>>62237621
>165hz
Why though?

>>62237661
kys

>>62237688
>40GB
um

>>62237089
>start off with poorfag neetbudget
>ends up with a youtube pro gamer setup

meh, I'm not about to nag, did the same thing with another hobby this year

>>62237711
Old 4gb cards + two new 16gb cards
They're fully compatible and all the memory benchmarks show a good increase in performance.

which GTX 1080 is the best in case of temperature, noise and performance.

Want to order one soon & dont know with which custom card i should go

>>62236986
i am sure there are kids who beg their parents to buy this piece of shit

Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG2 Pure Black
MoBo: MSI B350 PC MATE
CPU: Ryzen 7 1700X
Cooling: SilentiumPC Fortis 3 HE1425 v2
PSU: SilentiumPC Supremo L2 550W
GPU: MSI(?) Geforce 1060 (1070 if I do well this month)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 Mhz 2x8 GB
SSD: GoodRam CX300 240GB SATA 3
HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 6Gb/s SATA
Optical Drive: Asus BW-16D1HT

Whew, that should do the trick. What do you think, /g/? Also, Win7 or Win10?

>>62236228
dude I'd totally order one. They look really nice.

>>62236219
I'm wanting to have a Linux host, then GPU passthrough to a Windows guest for all my gaming needs.

I'll also be trying my hand at game/app design with Blender, Unity, etc.

Should I go Ryzen 7 or ThreadRipper 1900?

>>62237688

>why though

Smoother? It allows you to fully utilize your gpu. You already have a 1080, why bottleneck your experience with your monitor.

You know how playing at 60fps makes 30fps look choppy? Same thing happens when you consistently play at 100+fps and move back to 60. I have a 60hz monitor next to my XB271HU and even while browsing it looks like my cursor is getting caught on something and bouncing around.

>>62237824
Probably Ryzen 7, I doubt the extra PCIe lanes would be useful to you for those workloads.

>>62237841
He might be wondering why 165hz instead of 144hz because even the latter is very difficult to maintain at 1440

>>62237842
What would require the extra PCI-E lanes?

>>62237744
bump?

>>62237824
Depends entirely on if you need quad-channel memory or the extra PCIe lanes.

>>62237856
High I/O workloads that can use SSD RAID configurations like 4k/8k video editing, some machine learning, in-memory databases, big data, etc.

>>62237841
I don't know, I tried a 144hz monitor at my friends place and I just didn't feel like it was significant enough of an improvement from 59hz to justify the huge price difference. But that could be just my personal preference and the fact I'm a starving poor uni student.

Also what >>62237852 said, I have a 1440p monitor and my GTX 1080 dropped from 160fps in bf4 on a 1080p to 80fps on my new 1440p.

>>62237841
>tfw have to make the choice between 144Hz or 4k

I'm probably going to go 4k. I'd rather have moar pixels.

>>62237690
stay mad nocoiner i made over 80k from this in 3 months, you'd have to be daft to trash talk crypto

>>62237852

Honestly I'd say most can't notice the difference between 144hz and 165hz even side by side, but overclocking those 2 monitors is as easy as turning up your brightness. So no reason not too.

Plus I imagine the high end Volta cards will probably easily hit that rate. Especially in titles that aren't demanding like esports or older games.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9bfTLD
What should I cut back on?

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Ryzen 5 1600
GTX 970
ASUS STRIX B350-F
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15)
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
WD 4TB hdd
EVGA Supernova 750W B2
NZXT S340

The gpu I already own and it doesn't seem worth upgrading it currently. Where does one go to get a copy/repository of W10 nowadays?

>>62237948
The 1600 is overkill, but you wont need to upgrade it in several years which leaves more room for gpu+psu upgrade then.

>>62237948

Uh how much are you trying to cut back by...

I'd probably say drop to Ryzen 1400 if I had to. 4c/8t is still pretty damn good.

If anything I'd advise saving a bit more if you can. Also consider a small ssd for your OS just to enhance your experience.

>>62237969
>Where does one go to get a copy/repository of W10 nowadays?

https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

May find it cheaper somewhere else, or pirate it for free, I dunno

>>62237948
just get a 1200

>>62237772

Well ryzen doesn't natively have W7 support so I'd say 10 just so you don't run into any headaches or issues.

which GTX 1080 is the best in case of temperature, noise and performance.

Want to order one soon & dont know with which custom card i should go

>>62238087
Probably the ASUS Strix one

>>62238087
stop fucking posting the same thing
go look at reviews online

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EIGHT HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO DOLLAROS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
FUUUUCK

>>62238087

They'll all perform similar and no card is best at all 3. If you have a windowed chassis go with one that looks best really, or maybe like evga since they have best warranty,

>>62238140

How'd you end up paying that much shipping

>>62238154
Not in US
local price is like 950 USD

>>62237132
Who is this smug lord?

>>62238171

that sucks anon, hope you enjoy that motherfucker

Is 1k a lot for a cpu, case, mobo, ram and ssd?

>>62238268

Depends on exact components, but generally yes. Considering that doesnt include the video card.

Highest end Cpu a consumer would buy would be ~$300

Mobo ~$100-$150 to support above cpu

Case you can get really nice ones for like $50-80 now days

Ram 3200 16gb which is most you'll prob need is like $150-$180

SSD could vary by size but a 256gb ssd is like $80-90

This is all high end shit and would still only total to like $800 at most.

>>62238365
Alright I'll look into it a bit more, thanks for the actual response

>>62238407

if you got a budget or list man, im sure myself or someone else can help you out.

>>62238476
Nothing at the moment beyond some estimates, it's appreciated though

need a second opinion, my options for current upgrades are
option 1:
240mm+280mm i7+1080 custom loop
option 2:
280mm cpu loop + air cooled 1080 TI

using a 1080p/144hz monitor and 1440p for single player games but i'll likely sell the 1440p monitor for a proper 4k monitor.
considering i'm not planning to upgrade for at least 3 years, what should i go for?

Any good, aesthetic case?

>>62238525

Not sure if you messed up, but option 2 has a 1080ti and option 1 is a regular 1080. At 4k your GPU will be the main component that determines your performance, so I'd go with option 2.

>>62238548

Budget/Form Factor?

>>62238616
ATX and less than $150.
If there's something retro It would be gorgeous.

>>62238604
i'm aware, it's just the price difference is either getting a second radiator and adding the 1080 to the loop or just keeping a single cpu loop but leaving the 1080 TI air cooled.
both upgrades are like $30 off from each other, but option 2 will probably better in the long run.

>>62238671

I don't see anything inherently wrong with an aircooled 1080ti. It won't look as cool or run colder, but the difference bewteen a 1080 and a 1080ti at 4k could be the difference between maintaining 60 fps or dipping into the low 50s/high 40s.

>>62238648

Prob won't find any modern retro style cases, you could try finding an old chassis and modifying it to ensure good airflow and compatibility,

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r8
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vR8VNN

Gaming PC with Linux dual boot. Would also like to know if I would be able to set up a PCI pass-through with this Hardware. Not sure about the motherboard, case and PSU. would like to keep the budget within $1,000 to $1,500. If it's more than that it better be able to do something amazing like rain VR that makes me feel like Hatsune Miku really is sleeping with me.

>>62238934
Motherboard is good, case is up to you, and PSU could be considered underpowered.

Quick. How do I turn $200 into $500?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9LsdkT

>>62239129

At least get a Z series mobo dude otherwise whats the point of the 7700k? Not like it matters anyways with your budget,

>>62239174
The 7700k came to me for free and I don't care about overclocking it because I don't want my house to burn down.

best b350 board? light overclocking only

>>62239599
wtf is light overclocking nigger

are you slightly overclocking your cpu? are you only overclocking your gpu?

>>62239579

Your computer will shut off before anything burns down.

>>62239715

cpu dumbfuck

>>62239744
fuck you faggot, get a tomahawk

>>62236219
just finished my new build whatws some good fan management software?

I ordered my parts, how do I overclock the time so it goes by faster?

>>62239773
Your BIOS? Afterburner?

>>62239776

Sleeping pills and knock out. Like a time machine.

>>62239788
yes msi

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>>62236774
FX-8350 a cute but that's really pricey.

>>62239006
>Motherboard is good, case is up to you, and PSU could be considered underpowered.
Okay, but how do I check if the motherboard and GPU support the kind of virtualization I want? I like to have the option to set up what happens in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLeWg11ZBn0
My concern with the case is that it may not have room for the drives I want to mount. I intend to reuse a 2 terabyte hard drive for mass storage. I'm also unsure about it's air flow since the intake grills on the front door on the sides and it has a grill on the top where dust can settle in from or I could accidentally spill something. I drink water at my desk a lot so this is a concern. the power button is also Italy deal it. This computer is going to be in the same room I sleep and I'm very sensitive to light pollution when sleeping. I really only like it because it's nice and simple looking with no silly "gaymer" embellishments or weird postmodernist looking design.

After joking about it, I I'm sure the CPU and GPU I'm looking at will do great for VR if I ever decide to get a headset.

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Is this a good deal for a Broadwell-E?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117649&ignorebbr=1

>tfw halfway through a test you realize why the RAM isn't working properly
>have to wait for the test to finish so you don't fuck it completely

>>62240198
What did you do

>>62240206
Do you want the full story or just a summary?

>>62240216
full story.
with pics of build, with Trump looking retarded shopped into random places

>>62240127
Bump

>>62240127

its 20 dollars more for a 7700k

not seeing the point

>>62240240
not really. consider this:
The AMD Ryzen 5 1600 has near identical performance to the Broadwell E 6800K.

Why bother when the Ryzen chip is over $100 cheaper?

>>62240252
Wouldn't a server part have features a consumer part doesn't?

>>62240258
I'm not going to go MAD

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>>62240238
>build Ryzen PC
>install Windows 7
>a huge hassle, unstable as fuck
>get multiple bluescreens
>give up and install 10 LTSB
>working great, playing Crysis 2 on 1440p 144Hz
>suddenly bluescreens
>start Windows memory test
>suddenly remember turning XMP on in BIOS
I'm pretty sure trying to run my unsupported 3200MHz RAM at 3200 is the problem. Then again, the test is saying there's a hardware problem, so I may have to RMA the sticks.

>>62240266
>2017
>not buying AMD
I see, you're a fanboy/retard.

>>62240293

ryzen does not officially support win 7

>>62240303

So they've made a chip that doesn't suck; I'm supposed to go wild for AMD?

The PC I'm building will mostly be used for twitch shooters like counter strike.

I have noticed some monitors have multiple response times with GTG always being the lowest but sometimes the monitor will have 5ms GTG and as high as 17ms for the other listed response time. Seems like Grey to Grey isn't representative of what gaming will experience so should I be looking at the higher response time?

If so, how do I find that response time usually as most monitors only display GTG..

is there a xeon 8 core comparable to ryzen 7 in price and performance? what about a xeon 4 core i could get 2 of?

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>>62240252

What does a 7700k have that a Broadwell-E doesn't?

does anyone know how long approximately until prices for graphics cards will go down

>>62240266
>I'm not going to go MAD
why would you go mad? Your wallet would still have money in it and you'd have the same performance.

>>62240337
Bampus

>>62240366

You're right; why would I?
I won't so that's a moot question.

>>62240304
Try rereading the post.

>>62240323
You're supposed to take the best CPU for your situation. That happens to be AMD this time.

>>62237718
I want to neet, anon.
Anyways the only person I'm going to spend my tax revenue is me so why not?

>>62240332
You need one that advertises 1ms

>>62240393

>Haven't offered any information about my situation
"Buy AMD goyim, it's what fits your situation"

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What do?

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>>62240435

Really makes you think...

Off topic but you guys have any recommended desks and chairs or what brands I should be looking at? Obviously there's a bunch of cheapo shit I can get for less than $100 but I'd like something nice. Something big enough for two monitors plus a steel series QcK+ mouse pad.

>>62240435
Whatever man, throw away your money on being a retarded fanboy if you want.

>>62240475

>what is framerate interval mismatch
>what is 3,5

It will be an investment in my gaming future

>>62240466
Get something that has alot of depth and has a height where yours eyes are looking at the top of your monitor, I use a kitchen table I saw for free outside the apartments.

>>62240436
looks gay

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>>62240475
You really blew him the fuck out

>>62236486
I would totally buy one of these.

>>62237688
Nice, 40GB RAM.
You using RAM Disk for anything?

>>62240436
Not bad.
IDK if I trust the seller, though


We also have a sort-of unified /g/ Discord Server, where you can get more real-time opinions and discuss your builds:
https://discord.gg/wXGrJ7q

But also, all technology-related stuff is welcome.

>>62240436
What the absolute fuck happened to RAM prices in the last year? Last August I bought 16GB of DDR4 3000MHz for $65 and now it's pretty much double that and more in some cases.

>>62240556
>tfw bought a 2017 manufactured ddr3 16gig for $124
They (((inflated unexpectedly))).

>>62240304

software supports hardware, not the other way around

>>62236486
If only the /g/ were lower case

You dun goofed. /G/ irredeemably ruins it.

>>62236774

I built my nephews dad a pc with a i5-7500, 1080, ssd, hdd and 8gb of ram for $1240 after tax...

So wait. How does DDR4 above 2400mhz work? It says 2400mhz is the max supported on Newegg, yet higher exist. I'm confused.

>>62240686
Do you mean a motherboard you're looking at only supports up to 2400mhz?

>>62240686
Anything above 2400 is considered an OC because DDR4 is a little baby, kinda like how anything above 1066 was overclocked and you were the shit if you had 2000mhz on your X58 platform.

Speaking strictly in gaming FPS benchmarks here;

Fuck you guys for trolling me, I've been wanting an excuse to build an AMD system for years just to support the other guy and with all this AMD is better talk in the thread you had me excited.

Go look at benchmarks and see that 1700 is worse and 1700x is exactly the same as the 7700K but slightly more expensive..

What is with all the AMD shilling, in what respect is their chip better?

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>get to the point where i'm finally able to buy an RX 580
>Its $100 more and is out of stock

>>62240730

multithreaded applications

price

AM4 is guaranteed to be around for the next 4 years and zen 2 will be on it, while intel changes sockets and or chipsets every single year

>>62240730

It's about price anon we all know the 7700k has the highest single core performance for games. But now people can get an R5 1600 for ~$100 less that gets like 90% of the 7700k. Plus it comes with a cooler than can support a decent OC, so it potentially saves you money there too. On top of that you still get 2c/4t more than the 7700k for multithreaded performance. The R7 1700 is about the same price as 7700k, has twice the cores/threads while also maintaining 90% gaming performance.

7700k is basically only better if you use your PC as a dedicated gaming console.

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>>62240731
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>62240304
Works fine on asrock boards

>>62240752

Multithreaded applications, sure. Price? Clearly not as I said in my original thread the cheaper one under performs an the expensive one is on par. Also LGA 1151 is currently in it's second year of use is it not?

Now as for multithreaded use, I haven't looked into it a whole bunch but it looks like Intels old 7900x still outperforms 1950x and if we're talking multithreaded then we're talking business and enterprise level stuff here where production time outweighs cost so these are the CPU's we would be looking at not the 1700-1800/7700 series and even still the 7900x is cheaper.

Multithread in the 1800 would only be something that appeals to novice video makers or game streamers that aren't making any or much money from their content and is an extremely niche market, but I guess that's nice for them but for the vast majority they're going to be better off with Intel still..

Adding to all of this we're comparing Intel's old tech with AMD's latest.

I want AMD to succeed, but lets not murk the waters with bullshit.

>>62241008
>Intels old 7900x
The 7900X is brand new you faggot.

>>62241008

Intel is switching chipsets for coffee lake

also every ryzen is unlocked, while you have to buy a K if you want to overclock an intel


ryzens ac tually come with a pretty good cooler as well

>>62240849
Alright actually fair enough, I wasn't looking at performance to price if you're willing to sacrifice performance for price. Does it really equal out though? The performance lost to dollars saved that is.

I still think the multithreaded performance is a meme unless you're an enterprise developer pumping out processing every day though, in which case you wouldn't be looking at this tier of CPU's.

>>62241036
Sorry had the 7700 in my mind, you're right but my whole point there is that no one but enterprise is buying 7900/1950 so who cares about them.

>>62241063

more and more games are being optimized for multithreading, the biggest game on pc right now (PUBG) just added optimization for 6 core processors

>>62241083
>>62241036

Yeah I'm talking shit sorry.

>>62241088
That is good to hear about a popular game but multicore optimization has been "happening" since before AMD's last "More Corez" release and here we are today with only the slightest of movement in that direction.

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Buddy tossed this together for me as a gaming rig. Thoughts?

>>62241162

Powersupply is overkill as fuck, you can run a 1080 and R7 1700 on 450w. Save some money or put it towards a cheap ssd for your os.

Everything else looks in line, what's your performance goal/budget?

>>62241162
I'd spring for the R5 1600, much better value than the 1400 unless you're on a super strict budget.

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GPUs at reasonable prices yet?

>>62241264
Prices won't ever be what you eant them to be, and won't hit a low for a long time.

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I currently have an e3-1245v2 and a gtx 970, Should i upgrade to a R5 1500x or just keep my current platform?

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>>62241355
Of course the one part I'd skimp on 4 years ago was the fucking gpu.

>>62241162
No case?

>>62241364
What goal do wou want to accomplish?

>>62241162
Get an SSD, and you're golden.

>>62241372

says carbide 400c

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>>62240556
Everyone, their brother, and their grandma started going after DDR4 to build their fucking mining rigs.

Market was raped to death by greedy normies trying to outheckle the shekel.

>>62236355
1600 has a wraith spire included. You can get a 1700x, but I'd recommend a noctua d15

I want to get an R5 1600 and overclock. Is it worth going for a 1600x even though you're able to overclock the standard 1600? I intend to buy a NH-U12S to cool it anyway, so the included cooler with the 1600 won't be any use.

>>62241515
I mean the 1600 and the 1600x are virtually the same. You could keep the 1600 cooler and just toss it. I bought the 1600x and have no regrets with it. Overall AMD built a strong CPU this time around.

>>62241217
Having os on ssd just means faster boot time right? Doesn't really do much other than that?

My goal is being able to run anything the new generation of consoles will be able to run. Not really caring about playing on maxed out settings. Budget is 1200$ish.

>>62241515
No

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bR7thq

I'm going to re-use my current GPU. I intend to upgrade GPU and add another 2x8gb ram kit at a later date. Any problems with this build? Is 550w going to be enough to support a single GPU going forwards?

>>62241559

you can get a beast computer for 1200

ryzen r5 1600 - 210
good gold rated psu 650w - 90 bucks
16gb ram 3200hz - 160
gtx 1070 - 420
1tb spinner - 70
250gb samsung 850 ssd - 90
cm 912 case - 60
b350 mobo - 90

this shits all off the top of my head but it should be fairly easy to match those prices and its about 1200 added up

>>62241515
Yoh would have to ask somebody with a 1600x. I got 4 GHz on the 1600, but if you can get a difference worth the price then the x would be worth it.
As far as I know they are virtually the same and you can just sell the cooler if you get the 1600.

First time doing a custom loop, but not in a rush. Hard or soft tubing?
Also, besides remembering to buy/install fill and drain ports, anything else to make sure I do?

>>62241605
And speaking of which, what would be a good cooler for my OC? What I really care about is noise level.

>>62241673
Don't be this goy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LjqCoVbZ_g

What noticable performance difference would I notice if I ran a 7700K in a cheap-as-fuck mobo w/ a single 8gb stick of DDR4 @ 3000mhz vs 2 4gb sticks?

Can I buy 1 8gb stick to coast until memory prices come back down? Or should I stock up to safeguard against the potential of total war breaking out in Asia?

>>62241559

ssd makes your whole pc experience smoother, just look up some vids on youtube.

>>62241367
What are you using right now and what's your budget? 1050ti is a good but not great 1080p choice if you need something now but dont want to invest much. 1060 3gb is a better bang for buck but less return on investment because of the ram and for higher resolutions.

It's really a weird market. I wanted a 570 but im probably gonna settle for a 1050ti because im tired of waiting

>>62241768
Why you would buy 8GB if you have a 7700k is what confuses me.

>>62241785
I bought an rx480 before everything went to shit. For my little brother I had to settle on the 1050ti since it's impossible to get any mid-range Polaris card.

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>>62241815
I won a 7700K in a raffle. I am trying to part together a new computer w/ a very small budget.

The 7700K is really beyond my ability to care for or manage, but I want to at least try. So I'm going for a stock motherboard with no frills as cheap as possible to begin with, and with the savings there I'm planning on getting a nice CLC instead of a fan for the 7700K to keep it healthy at stock.

So I figure a $50 motherboard, 8GB of RAM, cooler. I'm then at $150. And then I can buy a proper case with the remaining $50, since I don't even have a real case at the moment.

>>62241884
Do not fucking do that. Sell the 7700k and save up for something without crazy bottlenecks.

>>62241604
What are the main differences between our two builds?

>>62241904
>without crazy bottlenecks
What do you mean bottlenecks?

>ryzen cpu
Grow up

>>62241913

much better cpu, much better gpu, and 8gb more ram

in laymans terms theres probably about a 60fps difference between the builds if playing at 1080p

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Are WD Reds still the go-to for mass storage drives?

>>62241913

Twice as much ram, much better GPU, cpu that can OC really well, ssd

>>62241917
A $50 motherboard is a one way ticket to not being able to do shit, and you should really be doing 16GB@3200MHz for that level CPU. Building a PC is all about respecting balance, and unless you also won a 1080ti in that raffle you will have an unbalanced computer.

>>62241913

your build is a 1080p machine, the one he listed could play 1440p easy.

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>>62241917
Like, do you mean bottlenecks as in the motherboard? The motherboard is just intended to run it at stock. It''s a motherboard just to have a motherboard. It's to spec.

I mean, how fucking much do you actually need to pay for a motherboard just to have a motherboard that fucking does the thing a motherboard is supposed to do? Why do companies even have 500 fucking models and variations of the same fucking products that just confuse the fuck out of consumers and lead to them buying from competitors?

Are the marketing stooges really that terrible at their jobs that they think killing people with variety is a good idea? Are they high? Are they insane?

>>62241963
I don't even have a functioning video card at the moment. I'm just trying to bare bones things until I have more money.

Also, having a 1080 Ti is silly unless you're trying for 1440p or 144hz. I just want 1080p @ 30FPS @ 60hz. I can't even get that.

>>62241917

what he's saying is you'd get better performance selling the cpu and splitting the money between other components since your pc will be hindered by its weakest component.

>>62242002
>@ 30FPS @ 60hz
60hz is for 60fps gaming.
Get a way less expensive CPU and invest in a video card.
Do not fuck yourself over like this if you do not want the performance this CPU gives.

>>62242002

>Sell cpu for $300

>Get Ryzen 1400 and 1050ti

boom dude

>>62241963
3200mghz 16gbs for a Kabylake lmao.

>>62242037
I'm highly tempted to just tell the people who held the raffle that I don't want it at this point. This is too much stress and drama.

Fuck it. I can't deal with this.

>>62242052
Nigger, this is simple shit. Take the CPU. Sell it. Buy some less expensive Ryzen CPU like a 1400. Then buy or save a little for a 1050ti or 1060.

Good small ATX cases?

>>62242052

Not sure if you're baiting dude, just trying to help you out.

Why you stressing out over some fucks on an anonymous board

>>62242089
Get a corsair 100r, great case that is small if you don't need a lot of 5.25 bays.

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>>62241944

Inside your main computer, you want a 7200rpm drive.

For mass cold storage, or a NAS for redundant slow storage, you want to rip apart 8tb seagate externals for the archive drives inside.

For an home NAS, you might as well just go to regular 7200rpm drives to get maximum performance since your drives aren't going to be spun up 80% of the times anyways.

If you're REALLY going to have your entire array spinning 24/7 and consistent and heavy workloads, you're already on a xeon platform running ZFS, money's no object, and your buying enterprise drives.

What CPU coolers are best for heavy overclocks?

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>>62242193

>>62242212
Thank you.

>>62242092
I've been stressing out over this shit all day.

I basically won the one thing I really didn't need.

As for selling it, good luck. I live in the worst part of the country.

>>62242280

Then fuck it dude, use it. A basic motherboard and 8gb of ram will work fine. Will you be able to overclock it and use it to it's full potential? No, but you'll still get good performance cpu wise. If you can later save up for a 1050ti or a 1060 you'll be able to play well at 1080p.

>>62242115
>Parity
>PAIRITY
Holy fuck

Can't spell parity correctly.
Obviously doesn't understand what distributed parity means
That, or running RAID 3 which is incredibly stupid.

No matter how you slice it, this is proof that home servers are a meme.

>>62242377
Not an argument

>>62242343
Well, my current system is a 3.2ghz i5 4460. In comparison, a Ryzen 1200 is better than the i5 4460. My original plan was to keep using it until it stopped working and to keep my money safe until video card prices normalized so I could replace my GTX 745. But that's never going to happen. And then this happened. And what should've been a moment of joy turned to absolute fucking terror. Because there's no intercompatibility with parts.

I can sell the 7700K for $300, but I'm not even sure I'd use it to invest back in my system at this point. I don't see the point. PC gaming is pretty much just repeating the same shit cycle that I grew up through. It's dead. PC gaming is dead. There's nothing new. There's just a smugness hanging over everything as shit is rehashed to death but this time requiring 10,000% more processing power.

My mind is full of fuck.

Alright /pcbg/. Poorfag here. I made my build over 4 years ago and my video card is starting to give out. I'm nowhere near in a place to get a new card, so I need to know if a fix is possible here.

My Radeon MSI 7850 has two fans. One of them has stopped working. Temps go up to 80C and idle at 42C. Is there any way to fix this?

>>62242193
Water CLC with 280/360mm radiators

>>62242377

Its unraid. slow as shit, but cheap as fuck as you can throw in all the random drives you have for the lowest cost solution I could think of.

>>62242393
>Not an argument
Fuck you molyjew
I got dubs

>>62242428

I think you're stressing too hard dude, you're overthinking it. Worst comes to worst, you sell the cpu and pretend you won a $300 raffle.

>>62240619
The point is for it to fit in with the whole tech design
I would've made the /g/ lower case but it just looks like shit in context to the design.

>>62236486
Looks very nice.

>>62236219
>g4560
its $150

>>62242002
>Why do companies even have 500 fucking models and variations of the same fucking

There's differences between them, you dolt. You should only pay for what you're going to use.

>>62240534
>discord
fuck off child

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So let me run down a line of questions as I try to decide what to do with this 7700K.

1. Will the 7700K help me in regards to streaming performance?

1a. More than a 1600X?

2. What features should I be looking for on a motherboard to ensure I can use the CPU to its fullest potential? I don't need RGB or any dumb shit like that. I just need a reliable, fully-featured board.

3. Is a Corsair H55 good enough to cool it?

4. What frequency RAM should I be going after to just have something to tide me over during the shortage?

Is there any problem with using RAM speeds in between A boards recommended sppeds? for example, If a boards supports 2666 and 3200, Would I be in the clear to use RAM set at 3000.

Sorry I'm retarded.

>>62243422
You'll be absolutely fine.

>>62236774
That is just highway robbery.

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7700k is the only option for a high refresh build and if you're still at 60hz a bentium is the way to go. :)

>>62243483
Nah, 1600/1700 is fine with an OC and decent RAM.

I am using a Radeon 6870 and it's been acting up. If I only have 1080p/60hz then it looks like the 1050 TI is enough. Does that sound right?

>>62243547
yeah

>>62243547
You don't have a lot of reasonably priced options atm but it should be ok.

>>62243547
You ideally want a 1060 6GB for 1080p/60hz. A 1050 Ti will float you. But the prices on everything are through the fucking roof and retarded as hell.

A 1060 6GB in a sane world is under $200.

>>62240337
Bump for answer

>>62243558
>>62243569
>>62243581

Alright thx

>>62241603
bump

>>62240293
From what I've seen, Ryzen won't run most RAM at 3200. I have 3200 sticks that can maybe do 2800 (blue screened once). Currently running them at 2666. Ryzen 7 1700 on an MSI Tomahawk with 3200 Ripjaws.

>>62243656
Aren't you supposed to get fast ram for ryzen?

>>62243656
Gotta adhere to the QVL, because reasons
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232530
This stuff is pretty much 99% guaranteed to work, but you're gonna pay handsomely for it

Intel/Nvidia are the price/perf leader right now

You may not like it, but this is what peak fps/$ looks like
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QKswBP

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I've sunken to trying to exploit Reddit to get extra entries into an online contest. If I win I'll give away a GTX 1080 Ti here or something. Or 3 of them. Depends what happens. You guys will get something, though.

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Hi /pcbg/,
So here's my current rig.
>https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/BmNrkT
I'm looking to downsize a little for a mATX board and case while looking to keep most of what I have (including the optical drive). Any advice on good mATX boards and cases?

>The price of my RAM has doubled
Seems I've been sleeping under a rock for a while.

>>62243713
>H series chipset
Gross.

>>62243695
>Intel
>Price/perf
Ryzen is like 95% of Intel for considerably less money

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1080 ti overkill?

>>62243744
The only reason to get both a 7700K and a 1080Ti would be to have a nice enough screen, which means 4K/60Hz or 1440p/144Hz. If you're in that case, then no it's not overkill.

>>62243717
Sweeeeet

>>62243695

>Being forced to buy certain RAM due to QVL
>Some of them are absolutely disgusting with those tacky heatspreaders

Besides that, aren't some of the RAM listed on the QVLs might not even work either due to the actual chips got changed?

>>62243818
you can cast your net a little wider if you know what you're looking for:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1627555/ryzen-memory-ic-collection-thread
even so, I'm pretty sure it's because Ryzen uses the RAM to help bridge the 4-core complxes, that's why it's so fucking particular about what RAM to use

>>62243844
So corsair vengeance 3200 ram sticks will work?

>>62243890
pretty much all 2 dimm CL15-16 3000 and 3200 ram kits will run at XMP with speed set manually to 2933 on ryzen after agesa update, possibly higher after some tweaks. CL 14 kits are the only ones confirmed to run at specified clocks out of the box.

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>>62243941
>mfw my board hasn't had a BIOS update since June

>>62236219
I'm planning on building a pc and installing windows on a ssd. I'm lazy as fuck and have an old hard drive from an old build, can I just use it as a storage drive without wiping it? Too lazy to wipe and transfer my files and reinstall programs from an external HDD.

>>62244005
You don't have to wipe it, but you'll have to reinstall the programs there's on it.

>>62244005
does the old drive also have Windows on it? be damn careful which drive you specify as your boot drive
if not, it's perfectly fine

>>62244017
Sounds good then.
>>62244020
>does the old drive also have Windows on it? be damn careful which drive you specify as your boot drive
Yeah, I heard that could cause problems. If I set it to boot from SSD would it still cause a problem?

>>62244033
you should just save anything you want from the old drive and then wipe it and re-load it before re-using it

>>62244033
>Sounds good then
Oh wait, you had Windows on it? Then I would wipe. I though you already were using it as a storage drive before.

>>62243695
Would this Corsair Ryzen shit work 99% like the Gskill equivalent?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236214&cm_re=CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16-_-20-236-214-_-Product

>>62244097
yes

>>62243315

1. Yes more than a 4core processor

1.a 1600 has more cores/threads so it can stream better

2. Z series motherboard, like Z270. Look around for stuff like proper heatsink placement. Just check around for reviews.

3. 7700k is a notoriously hot chip. Probably be fine at stock speeds or a mild/moderate overclock at the most. Higher overclock will probably require a better cooler or deliding(Voids warranty).

4. Get fast ram, the 7700k isn't as picky about it's ram frequency as Ryzen, but it does make a difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43g3OTK2AbE&feature=youtu.be&t=317

skip to about 5 min mark

My recommendation is to get single 8gb stick of at least 2800mhz, then eventually grab a second one for dual channel when you can afford it.

If I'm poor and planning on running a Ryzen build should I invest into ram or the GPU for performance? R5 1600 btw.

>>62244203
Get adequate ram (do a fast 8GB and buy another of the same model later if you have to) but the video card is the most important component for gaming performance.

>>62244203

Gpu, but apples to oranges really. The price difference in price between low frequency and high frequency ram is small, don't cuck yourself and make sure you get at least 2800mhz+ ram(3200 preferred). Start off with 8gb, then focus on which gpu you want, then eventually go to 16hb of ram when you can afford it.

My mother board is relatively old. It's cpu socket size is AM3+. Would AM4 processor work in this? Or should I just try and replace it with AM3+?

>>62244332
I wouldn't recommend getting something like a 9590 if you have an FX-8000 and the performance isn't enough anymore, just go AM4.

>>62244332

Not sure what you just said, but AM4 chip won't work in AM3 mobo or vice versa.

>>62244332
AM4 chips won't work with anything besides AM4 boards
You should upgrade to something AM4

>Wait to see if Newegg puts anything good on sale to help with that new budget build
>$160 Gigabyte motherboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsLmQF29OgU

>>62243722
No one has got any idea on good current mATX cases and Z170 boards?

>>62244471
>Labor Day special
>6gb 1060 for $289.99

Wow. It's worse than fucking nothing.

Ready to pull trigger on a gaming rig. Want to build before i head back to uni in a few weeks. Is waiting for coffee lake instead of a 7700k really worth it? I dont want to fuck myself over but I also dont want to wait too long to build.

>>62244513
RYZEN
Y
Z
E
N

>>62244513

It'll probably be worth the wait, since it's the first time intel is raising their core/thread count on consumer chips in a long time. Basically the 8700k would make the 7700k look like a chump since it'd have 2c/4t more.

>>62244534
I'm tempted, but the ryzen chips dont come close to the 7700k in gaming or overclocking at the moment. I want to push the most frames possible and i dont stream/render anything plus the extra cores dont help in most games.

>>62244562
Hmmmm. While i would rather build now, it definitely seems like a good move to wait. Im just worried about prices on the other parts rising (looking at you, jewcoin miners) plus im extremely impatient.

>>62244564
Putting a PC together is really fucking easy even if you're retarded. You can make a few small mistakes and all you have to do is take something off and put it back on.
If you want to know how good a component is, search "GTX xxxx vs GTX yyyy" and click the uservenchmarks link.

>>62244564

You missed the boat on gpu prices. Once the miner craze hit, gpu prices skyrocketed.

You don't have any friends that'll help you build? It'll save you a lot of money bub.

Either way, I found this

https://www.maingear.com/boutique/pc/configurePrd.asp?idproduct=2746

Lets you go without a gpu, I recommend posting the build here before pulling the trigger though. You're gonna get jewed, but maybe we can help you not get super jewed.

>>62244604

I'd just build an r5 1600 build then dude, after overclocking you'll only get slightly worse performance but you'll save like $100.

>>62243656
Yes, but in reality your 3200 memory likely won't be supported as it's still new architecture. I'm sure eventually every Ryzen motherboard will run most 3200 rated memory as companies get their shit together.

>>62243695
I need 32gb memory, and this set seems to cap at 2400. Could just buy four sticks of 8gb but that's just more shit that can potentially brick to me. It's all pretty much a crap shoot right now anyways. I'm sure the differences between 3200 and say, what I'm running now, 2667, aren't drastic.

>>62244564
Why was this post deleted?

>>62244689
Self deletion, maybe?

>>62244669
>>62244669
Budget really isnt too big of an issue, but doesnt the 1600 get dicked in most gaming benchmarks? I do like the idea of an AMD chip since the upgrade path is pretty visible however

>>62244703
What do you mean "dicked"? Optimization could be quite a bit better but it's still really solid.

>>62244697

No the 1600 is good at gaming, it's just not the top dog in single core performance like the 7700k. Basically it comes down to whether the bit extra fps is worth $100 to you.

>>62244730

whoops meant this guy
>>62244703

>>62244649
>You don't have any friends that'll help you build? It'll save you a lot of money bub.
>tfw live in the boondocks
I did, but they moved away. I maybe could track down someone that could, though.

And miner craze? As in bitcoins or whatever? Thanks for the link though, I'll try it out.

>>62244623

I did this for GTX 780 vs GTX 1050. GTX 780 performed better. And cheaper. For some reason. I saw one on Walmart.com for like $130 but Idk if it has the right connections and shit. My friend that helped me with this before knew all about this stuff and I know about enough that I probably wouldn't be able to do it on my own. I might consider asking him to buy the parts and build it, then send it to me, if I can't find a good deal on these sites.

>>62244689

I deleted it. I was worried I'd just get my ass chewed out or banned.

>>62244513
>>62244587
It's never a good time to buy new tech. If the 7700k does everything that you want it to in games, and I'm sure it does, at least it's a tried and true platform. I doubt any many games will utilize more than a quad core for a while. If gaming is your only concern, I wouldn't personally have an issue with building one at the moment. I'm sure a 7700k will still be "good" 5 years down the line.

>>62244755
Motherfucker if you have the internet then you can build a computer. Install your motherboard standoffs and make sure your cpu/heatsink is seated and thermal pasted properly (if your using a stock cooler it'll already be applied). Everything else is slamming shit in and plugging wires.

>>62244755
What's your budget?

>>62244730
From what ive seen if you want to game at 1440p 144hz Ryzen is either just behind the 7700k in well threaded games or 10-20% behind.

>>62244816
At 1440p 144hz you should really be comparing chips in similar price ranges. The 1700x at the same price range performs basically the same in games.

>>62240849
>R5 1600 for ~$100 less
If it was only $100 I wouldn't bother with ryzen but it's closer to $300 and that's a huge difference for similar performance.

>>62244864
>>62244864
And i would go with the 1700 anyways because i would OC. Im slowly starting to think Ryzen may be the move now.

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>>62236219
My new components arrive today, /pcbg/,
I'm so excited!

>>62244890
>tfw waiting until Friday

>>62244867

>$300 difference

R5 1600 ~$200
7700k ~$300

Where can a nigga save more? Even if you use the stock Ryzen cooler, you're only saving like $30 there performance wise.

I have a feeling buying into Ryzen would end into me having the same regrets I had when I bought into the Q6600. More cores doesn't mean better. Like, even under optimal testing, it doesn't mean better. I fell for that trap once.

>>62244896
Ganbare, anon. You'll be fine!
I've been waiting for a week.

Bought a new 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor but its flashing back whenever its set above 60hz.

Its the Asus pg279q. I hear the model has some bad quality control but some searching says the DisplayPort cable that shipped with it is shit and may be causing it.

Anyone had a similar problem?

>>62244812
Eh, I've got like $3200 but I don't wanna go wild spending. I might just talk to my friend when I can get a hold of him. I'm a little scared to spend more than that, just in case. I'd rather not buy a new PC at all, this one seems to work just fine, but a few days ago my video card decided to begin artifacting under load in games (screen turns brown / red and sometimes locks up PC) and it can't seem to run Furmark for more than 30 seconds before doing this. I know this place isn't tech support so I'll just leave it at that. I need a new PC anyway, as this one is almost 7 years old now.

>>62244755

I checked that site and I don't think I'm going to use them, I'll talk to my friend and maybe I could get something decent for under $1500. $1500 is enough for a GTX 1080 and i5 included, right? If not I might just get a 980. But I figure if a 1080 is only a few hundred more, might as well, right? He lives across the state now though, so he'd have to build it and ship it to my house.

>>62244810
To be honest the thing I was worried the most about installing was the thermal paste, I'd be more inclined to buy something that has a CPU and motherboard already installed.

>>62244919
No one saying buy the 1700 for just gaming. The 1600 is the price/performance chip for gaming and the cores aren't going to waste there..

>>62244942
>$3200
Yeah you cab get basically anything for that. If you need a good PC but don't want to go overboard ryzen 1600 and gtx 1070 are great.

>>62244939
Displayport is digital so a signal will always be a signal. You can try buying another one which is good to have anyway but I don't see how that would be the issue.

>>62244899
>>>62240730
Different countries, different prices. In my country 7700k is about $450 and I bought r5 1600 for $250 and good ryzen motherboard are for ~$90 While for 7700k you need z270 for about $170.

>>62240730
1700 and 1700x are cheaper in my country than the 7700k

>>62239776
I've been watching pcpartpicker videos all day since I ordered my parts. Still two more days for everything to arrive.

>>62244960

I mistyped

I meant I had that much but I didn't want to spend more than $1500. I might consider a GTX 1070, "some" future proofing would be nice but I'd like playing FO4 at 60 FPS. I could probably do this with a 980 as well, but its getting hard to find them, especially at reasonable prices. And the one's Im finding, might as well spend an extra $100 - $150 for something that might play TES 6 maxed, too...

>>62245006
>Fallout 4
You could buy a toaster at K-mart that could max that

Ive heard things about Ryzen gradually becoming better for gaming as time goes on. Any tangible evidence to really support that? Im assuming this is reliant on game devs making games utilize more cores.

>>62244942

Don't get the i5 dude, get a Ryzen chip unless your going balls the wall, then get an i7 7700k. Also get a 1070 before considering the 980.

What's preferred resolution/framerate? If you only want to game at 1080p/60fps you don't need anything more than a gtx1060, no need to buy a 1070/1080

Basically speaking

1080p/60hz Gtx1060/Rx480/Rx580
1080p/144hz or 1440p/60hz Gtx 1070
1440p/80-120fps gtx 1080

>>62245006
Yeah, I know what you meant.
Newer card technologies will last longer since they are nade for applicationa today and not applications a few years ago, so a 1070 is a gpod card if you have the money for it but also don't want more.

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>>62245092
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>>62236808
Could be sold in a shop for 700 desu

>>62245040

I'll probably give away who I am if I mention my resolution, but its...

>2560x1600

>Also get a 1070 before considering the 980.
Okay

Preferred framerate is basically just a playable framerate. I can live with 30, but having 60 FPS would be nice. I have a GTX 780 and it seems to be fucking up under load, and my current CPU is definitely bottlenecking the fuck outta it, so I'm sure I'll get 120+ FPS in the games I like to play.

Also dumb question but would a backup battery potentially cause issues to a PSU? My video card may simply be not getting enough power, perhaps? I've had a video card go bad before, but it was way worse than this. It was artifacting even while browsing firefox. This one seems to artifact 20 minutes into a game, then lock up / have to be force closed. I know this isn't tech support but its still odd. And the card's too old to be returned now.

Meh, I could probably buy some cheapass PC at Wal-mart that functions about as well or better as what I have now, but I still think I might want to get something that will be good for down the road.

>>62240730
>Go look at benchmarks and see that 1700 is worse and 1700x is exactly the same as the 7700K but slightly more expensive..
You're supposed to look at the 1600.

>>62241162
This is one of the very rare times when someone's friend actually seems to know what he's doing.

>>62241559
>Having os on ssd just means faster boot time right? Doesn't really do much other than that?
It makes everything load up faster. It's really nice for multiplayer games.
I got my first SSD when Battlefield 3 came out, I was able to get the vehicles I wanted every time because other people hadn't loaded in yet.

>>62241603
B350 will be fine, you could be spending half as much on the motherboard.
And you could get a 650W gold PSU for that price if you want to be really sure. The highest end AMD GPUs will always use a ton of power. But 550 should be fine.

>>62241768
Dual channel doesn't fucking for what you're going to be doing. It's only useful in benchmarks and specific productivity tasks. Go for 1x8.

>>62242280
ebay

>>62242431
Yeah, find out why it stopped. If the fan is toast, replace it.

>>62243713
But that's wrong. A 1200 is as fast or slightly faster than a 6100, stock. And it can be overclocked on a $70 motherboard to be even better. And you'd only need 8GB RAM in that build. And the 1060 3GB is not a very good card. And you forgot to get a PSU.

>>62243722
>buying a brand new board for a dead platform

>>62244203
You can often find single 8GB 3000MHz sticks for the same price as 2666, so there's no real investment there, get the faster one. No need to go for that expensive Flare X or whatever if you're on a budget. Spend money on the GPU.

>>62244890
I'm getting my PSU and additional case fan today. RAM tomorrow. CPU and GPU wednesday. I'm going mad with every new part I get while I still can't build.

>>62245036
>Im assuming this is reliant on game devs making games utilize more cores.
Yep exactly. But we've been saying devs will optimize their shit for 10 years now, and they're taking their sweet time about it. They always seem to be 3 years behind CPU technology.