/hpg/ - Headphone General

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR49yQ9crug

>>62204473
Good film. My fav is laputa though.

>>62204493
>literally naming a film "the whore"

>"Modi 2 Multibit: 16/44.1 to 24/192 via USB. 16/44.1 to 24/192 via Toslink* and Coax, with 24/176 and 24/192 being NOS (non-oversampled)"
What does "non-oversampled" mean?

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Post your headphones anons

Daily reminder that all you need for perfect audio experience is $3 earbuds and EqualizerAPO + PeaceGUI.
Anything more is for retarded audiophools who love falling for snake's oil scams.

>>62204509
Not in gods english m8

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The Oppo PM3 has 10 more DB of sub bass and almost 20 db less treble at some points. How the fuck?

>>62204536
>Expecting /hpg/ to be able to eq properly

>>62204536
can't have good bass without a decently sized chamber

>>62204536
Fool. Why spend all that money on expensive earbuds when you can get the exact same sound with tin can and a string?

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>62204598
Pic + timestamp

>>62204536
He thinks a $0.15 4mm dynamic driver wont shit it's self under more than 3db of EQ.
n-nice

>>62204536
>equalizing frequency response nulls
>equalizing distortion
>equalizing discomfort

>>62204598
Why are you not using a cute anime girl with a question mark over her head picture?

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>>62204536
Wow soooo cool anon! Can you take a picture and timestamp of your next level setup so all of us idiots can get on the patrician train? Thanks!!!

>>62204536
>$3 earbuds
Most earbuds including Senns and Yuins are already approaching or over 100% THD under 100 Hz and would need heavy equalization to meet any reasonable target curve, so this isn't true. You have the right idea though, something inexpensive with extremely low distortion and high sensitivity could be used like you describe. I'm not sure that product actually exists though.

>>62204536
lmao

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>>62204526
ldol trash here.
What's your pizza like, Anon?

>>62205032
I can't afford pizza. :(

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>>62205046
If you still don't have the HD600, then it is accurate that you shouldn't be spending money on pizzas, Anon.

>>62205079
I am hungry but all that matters is fidelity
4 more weeks!

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>>62205106
>no food
>only water
>and meditation
I respect how you're preparing body and mind for the HD600.

>>62205169
there are better headphones for anime

>>62205079
She came there, right?

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>>62205207
Idols are pure, Anon.
>>62205183
>not care about
>the seiyuu's voices
>economical choices
Making yumemi sad.

>>62205106
Don't forget to also purchase expensive /hpg/ approved DAC/AMP Schiit Fulla 2™. There are other DAC/AMPs but you are not allowed to use, discuss or even consider those, unless it's Schiit Modi+Magni™ which is also /hpg/ approved.
Remember anon, make right choice. You already disappointed your parents, at least don't disappoint your /hpg/ bros.

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patrician pleasure dome stimulators right here

anyways, what should I impulse buy next?
I already own a few sennheisers (hd 598, 598se, 598c, and a few misc somewhere in the basement) so no 600's

>>62205395
>I already own a few sennheisers (hd 598, 598se, 598c, and a few misc somewhere in the basement) so no 600's
Christ. Sell all of these, get the HD600.

>>62205395
Sell your crap sennheisers in exchange for HD600s. Then sell your crap planar for a real planar (LCD-2/3/4/X).

>>62205368
Sorry. I'm buying the fx audio dac x6

>>62205429
You should apologize to your future self, not to myself. You are not going to be welcome in those threads anymore.
This just kind advice from me, buy Schiit Fulla 2™. You will regret it otherwise.

>>62205429
That's /csg/ approved™. Still ok.

>>62205416
>>62205424
but I've played with the 600's and they aren't worth it, these cheap planars sound much better in all aspects. Maybe one day, but I want something not sennheiser.
>selling anything
ishygddt

>>62205429
Then pay with your blood!

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>>62205368
>fulla 2
>expensive
Get a job, Anon.

>>62205416
>>62205424
the hd 600 is only 2 better than the hd 598 retards

>>62205485
I agree on the better than hd600 statement. Planars are god tier

In fact take their advice and combine it. Sell the shitheiser stuff and buy lcd-2's or a pair of stax.

>>62205569
But if I get a job how am I going to 24/7 listen to anime music on my Sennheiser HD600™ and Schiit Fulla 2™?
I could work from home I guess but last time I checked they don't allow home office in McDonalds.

>>62204523
I'm not an expert but from what I understand most DACs will oversample to make the reconstruction filter simpler. So the modi might oversample 44.1khz to 176.4khz (4x) and 48khz to 192khz (4x)

Since the filters are running at 176.4khz and 192khz if your source is 176.4khz and 192khz it would be non-oversampling.

>>62205485
But your cheapshit sennheisers are far less "worth it" and you can sell them to get memephones at no net cost to yourself. Either you should sell all the crap you're not using.

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>>62205625
>I could work from home I guess but last time I checked they don't allow home office in McDonalds.
Christ. Get some marketable skills.

>>62205622
How do the lcd-2's compare to the he400i's?
And selling anything is a mistake, its better just to make more money.

>>62205685
Reina a best. A best!!

>>62205685
I already have marketable skills. I'm very knowledgeable about Sennheiser™ and Schiit™ products.
Do you have any idea what career opportunities I could make out of this?

>>62205712
You could email them to offer some part time schilling.
But I somehow know they do have enough schills already.
We live in harsh times, my friend.
Just use 4CHSCHILL code on checkout next time, for a bro.

>>62205625
How to get filthy fucking rich:
>buy bitcoin
>do nothing
>profit
there is no excuse for being poor in 2017.

>>62205693
Deeper bass extension, flatter mids but the highs are rolled off so they sound darker. Best bet is buying them used at a substantial discount.

>>62205735
I spent all my allowance money on bitbeans already. I think I'm going to make it.
I hope Sennheiser or Schiit make audio systems for cars, because I would love one for my lambo.

>>62205752
If they're so great why would anyone sell them?

>>62205735
>Taking a gamble in bitcoin
>Having to predict the future
Kek. Too much of a risk, dude. I suggest either make a machine to do that for you first, or hire yourself a fortune teller

>>62205752
Just ordered them off Amazon, already excited!
How much harder are they to drive?

>>62205779
>be ancient audiophile senior citizen
>About to be placed in a nursing home
>"Sorry we don't allow expensive headphones here, also they make lots of noise."

Or
>Upgrade to other audeze headphones
>Sell old ones

Or
>Ear injury/deafness
>Can't enjoy them

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>>62205752 >>62205693
I'm not touching the hifiman because of the infamous QC and support, and these trashy mids. Pretending they hold a candle to HD600 is irresponsible at best.
I'm looking into planars, and LCD-2 seems an option as, at least, the midrange isn't a clusterfuck in these.

>>62205796
Compared to the he-400i? Not that hard. A decent dedicated amp will get them loud.

>>62205395
mmmm that lofi/midfi hell. good job anon

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>>62205735
Got NASDAQ:AMD instead, early last year.

>>62205831
The midrange in mine are pretty damn straight, but I've listened to others and I know what you mean. It's a gamble but its worth it for the price in my opinion, just don't go cheap on shipping and buy through Amazon.

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>>62205831
Well, there has been three anons over the past few claiming the opposite. I've only seen one anon say otherwise that actually owns at least one of those headphones.

>>62205875
>few
few weeks
>only seen one anon
over the past two months

>>62205863
hello cutie

>>62205831
be warned that audeze has an inside-your-head style of signature. this means that female vocals are in your face and no little depth. most cans have this issue it's just more apparent on audeze. it does female vocals amazing it's just it sounds like women are singing 2 feet from your face

>>62205863
amd was a good buy, but no where near as good as crypto. Also you better be careful with that legacy market. It's due for its next recession real soon.

>>62205875
Some anon actually has both. Prefers HD600 for the mids.
Personally, I'm mid-centric. Voices + most of the instruments do live there. Forward bass just gives me a headache. I'm not even considering the HE400i because of that.

>>62205902
>in your face
I was told that of the HD600. Turns out, it's totally fine; People were exaggerating.

>>62205918
Yup. Headphones are subjective! I say we set aside your differences and hug it out :)

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Me waiting for my student loan disbursement to buy my he400i, hd600, and msr7

>>62205917
I've also got crypto, but slowass (not a multi-gpu dedicated mining rig).
It's so much better than using a heater, in the winter.

>>62205934
>People were exaggerating
they weren't exaggerating, it just doesn't bother you. And yeah it happens to the HD600; there's only a handful of cans that don't do that: HD800, T1, MA900, orpheus, he-6 (maybe), AD1000X (not sure), etc. Anything with a wide presentation but does mids well.

>>62205685
>sell the best 2/3rds of your life to buy better headphones
nah I'm good man
the way I got it set up uncle sam is giving me 8920 in cash a year, paying the rent, paying the electricity water and oil, and throwing me an extra $1956 in food stamps a year just for shits.
Not worth the effort of getting "marketable skills".

>>62205972
It's ok, it doesn't sound typical in-your-head closed.
And that's with me being used to HD598's exaggerated soundstage.

>>62205985
if you learned a trade you could be making 6x-10x that number. While being a productive member of society.

>>62205985
>leeching on taxpayers
Disgraceful.
Fuck welfare, with a cactus.

>>62206027
yeah but then I have to work

>>62206042
>>62206027
and people say socialism doesn't work :^)

>>62206042
>not finding satisfaction in work
If you have a disability I understand your position but when I finish a speaker cabinet and solder a crossover together it feels like bliss.

>>62206079
I assure you no job is as good as sitting in a comfy chair on your ergonomic computer shit posting with you nice people and listening to super comfy headphones.
Is there a headphone more comfortable than a beyerdynamic dt? I think not!

>>62206067
Socialism works in the sense that it provides the middle class with a safety net. Communism doesn't work because it doesn't give people an incentive to at least provide to an economy.

I'm all for one payer healthcare, disability services, and financial assistance but I feel that unless you're crippled or disabled you should at least work part time to receive those things.

>>62206104
Wrong! K712 have the comfiest god-tier pads

>>62206107
>it provides the middle class with a safety net
I don't want to get into a politics debate on /g/ but no, it made the middle class NEED a safety net. there's a HUGE difference.

>>62206116
I will have to buy some then. Thank you for the rec Anonymous!!

>>62206127
Shame all the other AKGs aren't as comfy. Q701s would have been nice too if the headband bumps didn't dig into you so much

>>62205985
>>62206104
I make more leftover money every paycheck than you do in a year
and I work 3 days a week (3x12 hours) at home in my comfy chair choosing between whatever headphones I feel like.

Life is so much better after I stopped being a NEET, more material possessions mean more happier.

>>62206079
This guy gets it!

>>62206174
Jesus christ three peroids of 12 hours of straight up work? That's not worth the extra money. Once you get to the point I'm at more money doesn't make you any happier. All you need is enough to eat and maintain your computer, as well as it's peripherals.
I wouldn't trade 36 of my hours for more money.
It's the same thing in headphones.
Once you get past the $300 range the return for your money falls off rapidly. Most people say that if you start off with an hd600 you'll save yourself a ton in the long run.

>>62206204
you are delusional and trying to rationalize why you don't spend time bettering yourself and your career

>>62206235
I guess but why does it matter if the end result is still the same?
Instead of looking forward to coming home from work all day, I'm already here! The reason you go to work is to have a place to come home to, I got that with out working so fuck yeah.
Is the IE800 any good? The design is really nice and seems pretty unique in the midrange IEM category.

>>62206204
It's not bad, I have incredible insomnia anyways. My coworkers also enjoy it, you still have plenty of time to sleep and eat since there's no commute time to work.

Hell, even when I have to work in the office, we spend most of our time comparing and sharing headphones and lice

I love my job, and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone to be stuck as a NEET

>>62206127
If you can tolerate dealing with Assdrop the K7XX is pretty much identical sound-wise to the K712 and costs a fair bit less. The drivers and pads are both from the K702 anniversary edition and they are indeed extremely comfortable.

>>62205395
HD600

>>62206275
This
>>62206127
Am >>62206116. I forgot about those. They're a nice deal if you can wait, but I can never wait for headphones that long. The stress of waiting will kill me

Should i get the gr07 bass edition? Anything better in the price range?

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$699??

>>62204680
>Why are you not using a cute anime girl with a question mark over her head picture?
I did, but I got hit with the image replacement bug.

>>62206269
I wish I was NEET still. Born poor die poor since I material objects really never make me happy just a moment of joy. I wish I was born not content with what I have so I'd feel a reason to try.

>>62206333
>gr07 bass edition
check the iem basshead list

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/head-fi-basshead-iem-thread-lists-page-1.761433/

>>62206396
utopia has a $1000 price slash lmao.

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Does anyone know of a pair of earphones that are almost invisible? I've looked before but can't find any.

>>62204523
>>62205648
Does not internally increase sample rate for signal processing.
Baseband reconstruction of discrete samples has two key issues intended to be addressed by oversampling.
One is quantization error. Quantization artifacts are spread out beyond the range of the original signal. Another is the analog filter.
A more relaxed analog filter (usually Bessel) can used to remove ultrasonic spurious solutions that come out from analog reconstruction. The "images" are pushed further up so that a low order filter can suppress them fully.

>>62206116
Wrong, the sound isn't the best but the SHP9500 is the comfiest set of headphones so far, with the AudioQuest NightOwl/NightHawk Carbon coming second on comfy. So far in my comfy quest I've tried the following other ones at home, from friends or in store:

Senn 598Cs/HD380/HD650//HD700
Monoprice M1060
AKG K550/K7XX
Fidelio X2
Phillips A5Pro
Oppo PM3
BeyerDynamic 770/880
Grado SR80e and many more Grados
ATH m50X
Sony MDRV6/MDR1A
Bose QC35

I stand by the SHP9500 for comfort. If there's a comfier one, I'd be happier to hear of it.

>>62206737
>If there's a comfier one, I'd be happier to hear of it.
that would be the ma900

>>62206753
>>62206737
SHP9500 is 325g with a 50mm driver (?) while the MA900 is 195g with a 70mm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Ntgc_79XQ

>>62205902
>this means that female vocals are in your face and no little depth
Really, sounds great for me, I love when female vocals hump my head as long as imaging is precise. I don't mind small soundstage but I would like for some depth, I am completely fine with how vocals are on my HD600 altho I dialled down 1db at 3.5k because with some not so well recorded songs it's a bit too much at certain moments.

>>62207280
lcd-2 is your upgrade then unless you want stax

>>62207295
I was wanting to try out stax and might in a month or so but what is so special about them? FR wise they look ok to weird, what is the meme of EAR SPEAKURU?

>>62207325
I honestly wouldn't know other than what other people have said, I almost bought some once but my area gets pretty dusty because of how dry it is and how much pollen.

What is the best under $50 wired headphones from Amazon?

I don't shop on Ali.

what headphones won't make me hot as fuck

>>62207408
the general consensus would be the Koss Portapros
Shop around though

>>62207478
I think wearing pretty much any headphone makes you look like a dork, so you can take any you please.

>>62207408
Philips SHP9500S, however it's on newegg.
It's worth it going through newegg for these, they are by far the best performance & comfort for the cost

>>62207478
unironically Sennheiser HD598

> get new headphones
> can't tell if the drivers are imbalanced or if my right ear hears slightly better

fug

>>62207720
put them on backwards, does it happen on the opposite side now?

>>62207478
SHP9500, Sony MDR1A are what I break out when it's hot.

>>62207478
Any shit one. This hobby Isn't for you.

>>62207485
>>62207592
I can't decide.

>>62207943
SHP9500S, but if you must go Amazon, then Koss

>>62207943
buy both

>>62204447
So, how good are the focal utopia (fucking mental price) and the 800 S, compared to the 600? I love my 600's, but I'm guessing the other two are cleaner with more bass? If not, what's the fucking point at that kind of money?.

>>62208000
Get the best of both and get HD800 used. EQ's like a champ.

>>62206104
ma900s are more comfortable (:

is the schiit stack really worth it?

>>62208038
mine are in the mail :)

>>62208048
Possibly, but it depends on your headphones. Start with the fulla 2 first, then get a magni if you want

>>62208079
Try them and give us those first impressions, anon!

>>62208017
Are you saying that the 800 is the best headphone, with the correct EQ? what is bad about the utopia and the 800s?

>>62208142
I don't get them until monday which is very sad. I have some spare sz1k pads I'm gonna slap on and probably solder balanced jacks on it just so I can reuse cables

>>62207747

They sound more centered when I put them on backwards, but then I mess around with foobar and reverse channels and there's no discernible difference on a track where the vocals are supposed to be centered.

Dunno what it is. Could be OCD and unbalanced ears.

>>62208203
douche out your ears

>>62208178
I just think HD800's very versatile with EQ in which you can basically do whatever you want to it. I've only heard mixed things about Utopia from a few people I know who've tried it.

Fellas I gotta get a better pair of iems, right now all im using are the apple earpods and they suck, im considering these KZ Zs5 but worried about the comfort, any recommendations are appreciated

Is there a better closed headphone than the DT770s at that price point? Only downside seems to be the attached cable.

>>62208443
i love em, ive had m50x, and shure840......dt770s were much better imo

>>62208443
Custom Studio's a tamed DT770 with a detachable cable

Whoever suggested the Beyer Custom Studios for portable listening,my pair comes Tuesday.

>>62208436
bump

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>>62204447
>no one on earth sells replacement headband cushion for hd380 pros

I am SOL I guess? I still have my original but it's shedding extremely bad. Should I just remove all the old cover and make my own for it?

What is the difference between dt880s and dt880 pros?

>>62208699
I'm glad you fell for the trap

>>62208841
buy some pleather sheets and memory foam off amazon, stitch your own, not that difficult

I have the Sennheiser game zero headset and I am really happy with the sound quality. My question is what would be the closest as a Bluetooth option? Going to be used primarily for gym work and maybe when playing poker.

>>62208860
What trap?

best / cheapest place to buy hd600's?

>>62208853
https://support.beyerdynamic.com/hc/en-us/articles/201451831-What-is-the-difference-between-Pro-and-Edition-models-of-DT-770-DT-880-and-DT-990-

Basically Pro has a tighter clamp and coiled cable, standard has a straight cable.

>>62208853
Clamp and headband I believe. Pro clamps more at I think 3.5N over premium's 2.8N.
>>62209029
I've seen a some go used on r/AVExchange for ~$200ish

>>62209029
>>62209092
>$200
https://www.reddit.com/r/AVexchange/comments/6xeje7/wts_sennheiser_hd600_and_hd650_austin_tx_190210/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AVexchange/comments/6xhd54/wts_hd_600_200_with_little_dot_mkiii_200_w_paypal/

>>62209106
>paintballer1488
I don't know where this nigga gets all his used headphones but he sure sells a lot of them

>>62209123
there's a fuckton of hd650s and 600s selling on /r/avexchange right now for <$200/250, lol wth

https://www.reddit.com/r/AVexchange/comments/6xhn64/wtsusoh_hd650_wpackaging_230/
>Great cans in great condition. I prefer the sound of the r70x, so these have to go.
kek.

>>62209123
He also sells on Ebay

>>62209106
did he steal these out of flood houses

>>62209191
Just going from house to house like "Shit, everyone really does have HD 600"

>>62209191
He's been selling long before then

>>62209236
he flips a bunch of sennheisers without pads, for whatever reason

>the HD600 were first introduced in 1994 as the HD580
>it is 23 years later
>they are still the best full-sized headphones in the world
Why?

>>62209284
Can't improve on perfection

So basically, buy the hd600s?

>>62209356
only worth it for $200-$250

>>62209356
Yes.
>>62209388
They're worth it at $400.

>>62209029
Some pairs are also being sold on eBay for $200.

>>62209405
No they aren't, you can get them at $200 easy, there's ten here for $190
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-Sennheiser-HD-600-Open-Back-Over-Ear-Headphones-Good-Shape-/122455635260

At $400-$500 you start stepping into used summit-fi range.

>>62208973
There's no trap. They're great headphones. He's just fucking with you.

>>62209419
HD600 is summit-fi.

>>62209437
hd600 used to be summitfi but now we have fucktons of kilobucks, so now summitfi is elear, hd800, lcd-2, etc. Not that it matters because summit-fi is kind of a stupid term anyways

>>62208203
I know what you're talking about even the switching it around and hearing in the center. I think part of it is your brain trying to get used to something new. Maybe the old one was off and you were used to it.

>>62209452
>HD600 is still summit-fi even though we now have fucktons of kilobucks which are worse than HD600
FTFY.

>>62209492
>I'm a poorfag who is new to the headphone scene and hasn't tried any kilobucks
ftfy

>>62209507
>hurr, durr
http://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.4984044

>>62209419
would they be a giant increase in quality from hd380s? I've had these for so long I'm just kind of interested in something else. gotta spend my scholarship money on something

I got the Massdrop HD6xxs. Was that a mistake? Should I just have gone for the regular HD600s?

>>62209530
>would they be a giant increase in quality from hd380s?
Yes.

>>62209526
you are aware that two headphones can measure exactly the same and sound completely different, yes?
>>62209530
is this b8?

>>62209538
HD6XX are recolored HD650s.

>>62209546
answer my question fuck face :^)

>>62209554
Yes I know. But a lot of people seem to prefer the HD600s over the HD650s.

>>62209568
go to a headphone store and audition some, you'll have your mind blown

>>62209569
And the fartsniffers over at superbestaudiofriends go blind jerking themselves over how good the HD650s are. the difference is pretty minimal.

Just be happy you got a new HD6?? pair for cheap.

>>62209583
ok thank you

>>62209609
OK

I need a headset for general purpose gaming. Don't feel like putting anything together.

Are they any standouts in terms of value that are less than $150?

>>62209628
headphone general not headset general

Are those wool headband covers on ebay a meme or are they actually comfy?

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>>62209323

>>62209628
SHP9500 with boom pro. AD700/900x with mod mic

>>62209628
Custom Studio + BoomPro for a bit more. Basically a big boy Cloud.

>bought a pair of AKG K52s

Did I fuck up?

Will the HD 600 ever go on sale? Shit's 530 Canadian!

>>62209770
Wow, really? Shit is only $320 domestically in Australia. We usually have much worse markups than Canucks.

>>62209852
canadian market is in a bubble

>>62209663
Headsets are headphones with an accessory
I hope you guys don't every talk about headphone accessories

>>62209990
headsets are shitty headphones with a shitty accessory
although, we do seem to love talking about shitty headphones around here, considering all the HD600s and HE400is.

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help me decide /hpg/, LCD-X or Mr.speakers Aeon?
i'll be using them mostly for casual gaming and some movies/porn (i have the hd650 for music already)

>>62209998
so there you go
it's like if the mech keyboard general wouldn't let you talk about external mechanical numpads

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Alright, here's the deal: it's almost the end of 2017 and I've been using strictly only wireless Bluetooth headphones for the couple last years, simply out of principle and to gather all the needed first-hand experience on this entire "wired VS wireless" debacle. So, after using strictly only wireless headphones on a daily basis for almost two-and-a-half years, I can definitely without any doubt openly state that the "always pro-wired only" and "only highly expensive portable players, no pleb-tier smartphones" pseudo-audiophilic FAGGOTS are completely and absolutely FULL OF SHIT. I won't argue with anyone here that wireless headphones in general and wireless sound technologies in overall were utter garbage just 5-or-so years ago, but nowadays it's NOWHERE even remotely close to being as bad as it was in 2012 and further down the line. Everything (literally EVERY THING) the so-called self-proclaimed pseudo-audiophilic kiddie shithead trolls are openly and absolutely brainlessly proclaiming loudly everywhere about MODERN wireless sound technologies being "bad" or "not on par with wired" is COMPLETE, 100% BULLSHIT. Abso-effing-lute LIE. These retarded deaf kiddies clearly never used any modern wireless headphone piece that cost more than 50$ (and actually good/worthwhile wireless headphones start from the 140$ mark AT THE VERY LEAST) and/or they never tried Apt-X LL or ESPECIALLY the GODLIKE LDAC. The fags basically don't know jack about any of this, but they act like they're the hottest and most knowledgeable shits around the block while in reality they not hot shits, but just shit. Modern wireless sound IS actually very good and does NOT lose to wired at all by the sheer quality of sound and latency (if it's apt-X LL or LDAC), WHILE being WAAAY more convenient and comfortable to use due to headphones being completely (WELL, DUH!) wireless. Fuck all those pseudo-audiophilic pseudo-elitistic sudo-entitled "pro-wired" shitheads, I say. They know fucking NOTHING.

>>62210056
butthurt wirecucks incoming

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>>62210056
You're wrong. Bluetooth is shit.

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>What ~50$ range wireless headphones would /g/ recommend?
Unfortunately, there are almost no actually decent/good models in that price range. The closest one you can get to be of a "decent sound quality" is Rombica's "MySound BH-10 2C", but they have extremely crappy Bluetooth range and they usually tend to bug out and turn off even if slightest electromagnetic interference is nearby (like, for example, when you're in a convenience store and standing near a commercial fridge). Also note that the are literally "Chinshit Wireless" headphones. If you never ever had a pair of wireless Bluetooth headphones before and you wish to get ACTUALLY worthwhile device from the first attempt - you'd have to spend AT LEAST 120$ and these will be MEEElectronics' "Air-Fi Matrix 3" model. This is the EXACT very point where actual wireless QUALITY starts.

>Have they also opened it up for non-Sony headphones or do I need a Sony wireless?
That we don't know yet, as there are simply no massive amount of Android 8-based smartphones on the market so far, but I personally highly doubt that this will be Sony-only when it becomes mainstream, simply due to default LDAC implementation in all Android 8 devices making no logical sense in the case if Sony decides to not license this to other wireless headphone manufacturers. They've already licensed this to Android 8, so why the hell will they restrict it only to their wireless headphones now? That will be an asshole move and will undoubtedly garner a lot of critique on Sony's ass. I don't think that Sony's THAT stupid as to not provide other wireless headphone manufacturers with a LDAC license. And even if (and that's a very big IF) they actually in all seriousness restrict LDAC usage only to their wireless devices, this still at least leaves us an option to not use a Sony smartphone for it if we wouldn't want to, so there's at least that.

>>62210056
Low efford bait, copied and pasted from the previous thread.

>>62210078
>Bluetooth is DA shit
Yeah, exactly.

>>62210078
Satania a cute. A cute!!

>>62210090
This is written by me, you dumb underage wired cuckold sucky boy fag. I'm just reposting it as a daily reminder.

Which Schiit or other DAC/AMP should I get for a 600 or 650? Currently using Fiio E17... is that enough?

>>62210108
Budget?

What's a good upgrade after owning 558's? Are there any options in the $150 range?

>>62210108
>Fiio E17
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-600/with/fiio/alpen-e17
111dB... would work, but doesn't reach 115dB, which is the desired target as per.
https://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/09/more-power.html
>which schiit
Fulla 2 doesn't make sense as you already have the e17.
Either Magni 2 (using your existing dac) or Jotunheim.
>do I need
No, the e17 will work. It won't show the 100% of your headphones, but it will work more than reasonably enough.

>>62210108
E17's nowhere near enough. Magni2 amp would be more than enough for a lot of headphone.

>>62210137
For $200 you can buy the monolith m560 or wait for the he4xx to drop again

>>62210108
Buy the emotiva a-100 and install the jumpers

>>62210166
These are both downgrades and shitty Chinkshit with shitty Chinkshit build quality.

>>62210166
>Monolith M560
Shit's getting a replacement, M565.

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>Name one worthwhile wireless headphone that isn't shit-tier or overpriced for what it sounds
Plantronics BackBeat Pro 2 SE (monitor, closed, neutral, medium price segment)
MEElectronics AirFi Matrix 3 (monitor, half-open, bright, very start of the actual quality in wireless headphones so this is as low as you should go if you're planning on using LDAC or at the very least Apt-X LL)
Marshall Monitor Bluetooth (monitor, closed, V-shape, medium price segment)
Master & Dynamic MW60 (monitor, closed, V-shape, high price segment yet not ineptly overpriced)
Bang & Oulfsen H9 (monitor, closed, neutral)
Sony MDR-1000X (monitor, closed, warm-to-neutral, mid-to-high price segment)
Onkyo W800BT (IEM, closed, neutral)
JVS HA-S90BN (monitor, closed, V-shape, mid-to-high price segment)

All of these currently available headphones are absolutely worthwhile wireless solutions. The most expensive one in that list is Master & Dynamic MW60 and even it is not really overpriced (usually sells for 600$, but can be found for a cheap as ~420$ at some places during sale-off days).

P.S.
Answering the question that was made in the previous thread: "open" structure is not actually common in the wireless segment, at least when it comes down to monitor headphones, but if anything - you could always try MEElectronics' AirFi Matrix 3, they're partially open. Also please don't ever lump "closed" design and "bad" together all the time, because this is simply not true. All of the closed monitor headphones mentioned above are absolutely top-notch pieces of hardware and sound very good for their respective pricing segments (Master & Dynamic MW60 having the best materials and sounding phenomenally even in artificially created bad conditions, but it's sound curve, which is very clearly V-shaped, is definitely not necessarily for everyone. I personally prefer absolutely neutral sound, so my personal wireless headphones of choice for everyday usage are Plantronics BackBeat PRO 2 SE and Onkyo W800BT).

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I just bought(literally a couple of minutes ago) a $6K CD/SACD player.
Ask me anything.

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what DAC/Amp should i get to pair with my dt880 600ohm

>>62210225
Why? I fail to understand what six grand buys you in a CD/SACD player.

>>62210196
Nice, I wonder if we'll see a m1065, maybe one with fuzors or velour pads

>>62210258
he fell for the cd player meme
>>62210225
be honest, do you sharpie the edges of your cds?

>>62210225
are you into multi channel music and what transducers and amp will you be using?

>>62210078
You're not trying hard enough, wired sucky boy cuckold kiddie. Listen to any wireless headphones that cost more than 50$ (and actual quality starts only from 120$ at the very least), then shitpost.

>>62210250
You should get the best you can afford.

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>>62209628
HyperX Cloud Core, its basically a Takstar Pro 80 with a detachable mic.
Got mine for $40

>>62210250
One that'll give them mids, so none.

>>62210142
>>62210148

I don't quite understand the amp thing. Would I plug the headphones directly into the Magni or would I combine the current DAC I have with it? Wouldn't it be easier to just connect to the amp?

>>62210402
computer -> dac (computer's own or the e17) -> amp (magni2) -> headphones.
>>62210250
If you've got nothing atm, I'd suggest getting a Schiit Fulla 2. Best starter amp there is. Excellent dac, if you ever decide you need even more power or gain than that.
>>62210225
All you need is dsd files, or a way to get them, such as https://sacd-ripper.github.io/
>but I want a DSD dac!
There's cheap (<$100) usb ones that will be as good if not better than that $6K player.

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>>62210439
>usb ones that will be as good if not better than that $6K player.
> if not better

>>62210439
Thanks for the connection summary

>>62209284
Pic + timestamp

Are there any decent headphones that can switch from wired to bluetooth?
Yeah, there are beats, but is there anything else on the market?

>>62209538
it was a huge mistake for me since the long wait ended up with me buying an SRH1540 and THX00 Ebony so far within several months despite being content with just a K702 for a couple years.

i thought i would be ok with my K702 for the 6 months i was waiting for the HD6XX, but no, i needed some self gratification right away.

DHL pls hurry up.

>>62210547
>DHL pls hurry up
DHL HAHA

>>62210190
>Downgrades
Try again, Sennshill

>>62210361
>DAC

>>62210555
it only took 3 days last time I used massdrop, fuck this long weekend

Are DT770s comfortable headphones for long sessions? They seem to have a relatively high clamp and I have a giant head

>>62210699
i dunno myself what is up with headphones like AKG and Beyerdynamics that insist on having perfectly circular earpads instead of oval ones

but whatever, if you want comfort, it's more important to ask if the earpads use memory foam or not. They can make a better seal and fit much more naturally around your head regardless of its shape unlike cheaper earpads. so more comfortable.

Torn between the 600 and 650. Which one, lads? I listen to a lot of Nujabes and hip hop if that helps

>>62210783
650

>>62210783
I prefer the 650, it just had me wanting to soak in the music a bit more but I found the difference real subtle. 600 might be the safer money, you can't really go wrong either way though

>>62210783
easy choice for hiphop, 650

>Budget
$100-$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone, Laptop
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Comfortable but doesn't matter, only performance/longevity
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter
>Past headphones
Klipsch S4

>>62210439
>USB
>Better than anything

>>62204536
Which $3 earbuds? You mean $3 IEM?

>>62204536
It's okay anon, once you get a good job you can start buying nice things.

Where get Fulla 2 in EU or something similar?
It's pricier than in US

>>62211741
Get a job.

>>62211755
I have one you faggot. Just don't like spending much

Help me out /g/

Jaybirds Bluebuds x3 or Advanced Sound's Model 3?

ADVsound model 3
>Save $40
>Not have to fiddle with the stupid Jaybird app
>Can switch to wired mode, but this means more crap to carry around.

Jaybird
>longer battery life by 3 hours
>Bluetooth doesn't cut out for first ~15 sec

I already have a pair of Audio-Technicas that I use generally, so this is just something for commuting and lifting weights.

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https://canpicker.com/

Thinking of replacing v-moda m100 with crossfade LP2, listing both, or removing them entirely. The list is for headphones that are generally good value. Thoughts?

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>>62211988
They are very good value though. Good build, very portable + nice case, included 2 year warranty, 50% discount on replacement pairs after warranty is up. Sound is fun and great if you listen to contemporary music (hip hop, pop, electronic, etc). One one of the best portables along the MSR7

Not sure what the difference is between the m100 and lp2 besides the collapsing earpads, which make the m100s more portable

>>62210887
GR07 Classic

>>62211988
>https://canpicker.com/

Huh, someone actually suggests UltraSone

>>62211733
Buyer's remorse.
It's okay anon, one day you will learn how to EQ like a professional (myself)

>>62212418
Is the GR07 2017 edition worse in any way? Detachable cables are a must for me.

audio-gds' website is so off-putting I'm honestly considering the jotunheim at twice the price
I'm worried about the drivers too
Anyone have experience with them? How was it?

>>62213066
Nope, the wire's a bit different. There's detachable versions of both Classic and Bass editions.

>>62213198
ordering process is a bit strange but its very easy. If you are considering the nfb11.28, it has a newer amanero usb interface which fixed the previous driver problems

>>62213587
Really? That sounds really good then
NFB11.28 is $400 and the jotunheim is $799

>>62213641
>$799 for a jot
where do you live ?

>>62213723
Australia

>>62213737
im aussie too.
i checked around sites for the cost.
nfb11.28 is around $450 with shipping
and the jot is about $600 with shipping from schiit's website.

>>62213789
>nfb11.28 is around $450 with shipping
Ah okay, I didn't take shipping into account
>600 with shipping from schiit's website
I'm not waiting 2 months for it to be shipped over, I only order from addictedtoaudio.com.au

>>62213789
actually with the jot with dac/phono is ~ $700 with shipping

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>>62213808
>2 months
Yeah nah

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>>62213909
Really makes me think huh? $499 USD base price + $100 shipping
rack off

>>62213936
That's $878.26 btw

>>62213947
$752* My bad, even then It's still going to take ages to get here, I've never had anything from America arrive in under a month

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>>62213971
Well if you do decide to get a NFB. Here is what the quote/invoice looks like. My order had the TCXO upgrade (+20usd) probably makes no difference to sound. And the shipping by DHL. You can opt for EMS/auspost shipping for ~$35 usd instead. :)

>>62214117
Good stuff anon, thanks a bunch
I probably won't order anything for a few more paychecks but the NFB is looking like the winner for me.

>>62214135
no worries

I got a fiio K1 because my PC's onboard broke and I wanted to use it on my ps4 as well but the surround audio is backwards
Sounds coming from left come from the right and stuff

VTECH KICKED IN YO

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>>62214765
What headphones would this handsome man wear?

What's a decent portable amp that can get hd600s loud enough not ear piercing levels but comfy levels. I want one so I can use it with ny 3ds

>>62214845
Check out the new portables from topping. I was shopping for a portable recently too and found they had the best output power for the money but I no longer have my numbers.
They're on ali and amazon iirc

>>62214852
Thanks

Hey, /hpg/. Recommend some good portable players. Something that isn't bloody expensive. I got a FiiO Q1 to partner it with, just need a nice player

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>>62215155
Whats wrong with a cheap phone with a SD card slot? I have a dragonfly(don't buy this is shit) that I use with a moto e 2nd gen and a 64gb sd card. This way you'll have way more control over the UI and software that you use. Shit like AIMP, USB Player Pro($), Foobar2k are all nice. I got my specific model for $12 on sale new in box and it has god tier battery life and it's small.
I suppose a dedicated media player is good too but if you already have the source I don't see the point. That is the main upside to dedicated players, they have good dac/amp chips.
With the dirt cheap price of 64gb cards right now I think it's something worth considering.
If you still want to go dedicated pmp I suggest going to /csg/.
Pic related(it's before i got the moto e)

I have an O2/ODAC and LCD-2. I really have no complaints but I have money I can blow. Debating getting LCD-3 and/or HD800s. Should I keep my amp and upgrade or is the amp holding me back? My experience is low, I just bought a good setup and have been enjoying it a lot for a couple years now.

Can you help me decide on some speakers, looking for £50 or under ($65), with some good bass.

>>62215214
I like my products doing only what theyre supposed to do. Kinda like how buying one thing that only does one job but does it job well is better than getting an all-purpose device, just for music. The Moto E4 Plus is a nice device though, I'll look into it.

>>62215278
I actually have the moto e from before that, the e lte. I just bought that because it was on clearance for literally $12. My point was that a(any) cheap phone with an sd card slot will probably give you a good experience for cheap.
Either way I think PMPs are strictly the domain of /csg/ at this point, chinks are making them by the million.

>>62215301
Alright, will do some research and ask there

>>62215260
From that tier upwards most amps and DACs are better only on an inaudible level and the land of make believe. Go for the headphones, and if you still have money to blow a couple hundred on snake oil, buy a new amp.

>>62215406
That's what I was thinking but like I said, I am an amateur. I didn't want to ruffle autism by posting a "cheap" amp with headphones that are 5x the cost. Thanks.

I've read that for optimal quality you should set your system sound level to 100% volume and control the volume with your amp, but the volume is so loud that way that it becomes too loud for me if I barely even turn the knob. Am I being memed? Should I set my system volume to something lower?

What are entry level/average earbuds that would survive exercise, and preferably stay in your ears, constantly shoving them back in while running sucks.

>>62215717
apple earpods i mean it seriously their cable and build quality is robust

>>62215689
http://www.esstech.com/files/3014/4095/4308/digital-vs-analog-volume-control.pdf
Should have bought an amp with a low gain switch.

>>62215717
Kz zs5 with the Bluetooth cable. I use them for cardio

Can you guys recommend me an amp with a fixed rca output

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I'm getting this A1 24bit DAC, what headphones should I buy to complement them?

I have QC35 but they are mostly for wireless noise-cancelation. I don't think they will do good here over the wire, or will they?

>>62215260
Go for a different sound, HD800 + Valhalla 2

>>62217076
How much do you want to spend? Do you want open or closed? What kind of music / audio do you listen to most?

What amp do i need for the T50rp MkIII

>>62217171
I'd say not more than 350 EUR on the headphones.

I mainly listen to everything - hip hop, house, drum and bass etc..

>>62217205
The monoprice desktop amp provides the juice. Either that or a magni 2. They're pretty inefficient

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>>62204447
What are some good high quality noise cancelling earbuds that you guys would recommend? Any in particular that are good for working out with? Pic definitely unrelated.

>>62217224
Monolith M1060, HE-400S/400I, PM-3, ATH-R70X/AD1000X, K712, and HD 600/650 are some of your options at that price point. Not anon

>>62217533
Okey, HD 650 seems pretty good. Thank you.

>>62217076
>I'm getting this A1 24bit DAC, what headphones should I buy to complement them?
You're doing this the wrong way around.

>>62217710
Have fun, anon

>>62217710
But HD600 is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaR34WTjYt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Es9S9tXTY

>>62217224
HE400i

>>62217784
Some people prefer different sound signatures. Same reason why some people go for the HD 650 instead of the HD 600. If anon can though, he should listen to each headphone

>>62217812
Sure. Some people prefer beats, too.
But between 650 and 600, most seem to prefer the latter.

>>62217875
I'd like to see that one kid who didn't buy Beats for its brand recognition

>>62217784
From the review it seems for me 650 is actually better because I don't listen to a lot of rock/vocal tracks.

>>62218046
Neutral headphones are best for all genres. If you listen to primarily bass-oriented music and you get bassy headphones the music and the headphones stack the bass and you end up with a boomy mudfest.

The difference between HD650 and HD600 is minimal, and both are pretty good, so you won't end up with trash even if you make the mistake of getting the lesser yet more expensive HD650.

how does SHP9500 compare to Shb9850nc/27?

>>62218063
Doesn't the HD 600 have a noticeable bass roll-off

>>62218122 new thread

>>62216149
>>62215689
>meme
For the most part yes. Quantization error is already really, really low, so using some of it for volume control has no real drawback. Actually, leaving the digital volume control at full scale induces its own problems in the real world.
If you want to satisfy that irrelevant audio itch, get a digital volume control that operates at 24 bits or more.

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>>62218115
HD600's 30 Hz response is even with its 1 kHz response when it is measured with a good seal. Most music doesn't even have fundamental tones as low as 30 Hz. This is more than adequate bass extension. They are not noticeably lacking bass response. In fact, to my ears, which are used to completely flat, Etymotic-like bass, they sound slightly bass-heavy.

>>62218155
Still a bass roll-off

>>62218155
Those graphs are poorly sealed and have incorrect volume.

>>62218406
You are an accident which occurred because your mother is poorly sealed.

>>62218455
Nice argument

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>>62218406
>>62218455

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Is multibit a meme?

>>62218509
Summgerfag get out

>>62218063
What if it's made with bassy playback in mind?

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Is there something better at around $90? I want:
>slightly V sound
>closed
I like the cable being detachable too.

>>62219357
New thread
>>62218126

>>62219357
DT 770 but no detachable cable

>>62219357
>Is there something better at around $90?
>shows pic of random shit value gaymer headset
Well, of course. Fill the form @ new thread.

>>62219357
CAL 1 > CAL2