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/tpg/ - Used, ugly dinosaur laptops general

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IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

>New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice? (hint: use the advice request template, it makes life easier)
https://pastebin.com/nBqTEbHn

>If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).

>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P SERIES, HP Elitebook (2570p, 8770W, 2170p), and Dell Latitude/Precision (E6430, E6440, E7440) if you want the Real Thinkpad Experience™

>Recommended models and mod guide:
https://pastebin.com/jVSuE175

>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

>xsauc buyers guide:
http://www.dankpads.com

>EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW

>Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):
http://pastebin.com/DYjEnVq1

Previous thread: >>62078645
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Daily reminder that only virgins who think they're hackers for using Arch buy used thinkpads.
Daily reminder that people with normal sex lives buy a mac.
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>>62093377
Reminder that people with "normal sex lives" are vapid and std-ridden.
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>>62093386
How's that virginity at age 28 working out for you, Sven?
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>>62093397
my thinkpad got me laid (;
i'm gay though
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>>62093397
Not a virgin, just don't base my self-worth on how frequently I get Wilson wet.
Nor do I enjoy being pegged by Apple with their $2499 flimsy aluminum cock :^)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/362079004208?_trksid=p2046732.m570.l5998&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI362079004208.N35.S1.R1.TR1#viTabs_0

Is this a good deal for an X230? What's the max I should bid on this?
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>>62093397
Feels like I don't have herpes. Or gonorrhoea. Or one of the other 20 STDs that normies get.
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>>62093494
>normies
>muh STDs

Are all thinkpad virgins that mad they can't get laid?
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>>62093560
Rhetorical questions make you seem smarter without actually being smarter. They also help to cover up emotions like "I wish I wasn't a STD breeding ground"
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>>62093577
>STD breeding ground
>top kek lel le epic memay

Dude, just because I do get laid while you don't does not mean that I have any STDs. I've never had any because I don't fuck cheap sluts.
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>>62093577
if you think a laptop is the dividing line between you and getting laid you should re-evaluate your priorities
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>>62093611
You have STDs. Unless you've never had sex (which is seeming increasingly likely), you have STDs.

>>62093659
I would like to point out that it was the STD-riddled virgin that said that the laptop was the defining factor.
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>>62092769
It works great for me. I run Linux on mine and it works great for the most part. Only a few comments to make:

>If you buy a used one on ebay, make sure to bid on auctions instead of buy it now. Within a week you should be able to get a great one at a much better price than buy it now (I got one with an i7, discrete video card, 500 GB hard drive, 16 GB ram, 1600x900 matte screen).
>Don't expect the battery life to be amazing unless you buy a new one directly from Lenovo or something. These are older laptops and most used ones will come with used batteries (mine came with an extended battery pack and it was still pretty worn).
>I believe the default screen is 1366x768 but there are screen upgrades out there for 1600x900 and if you look around you'll find many T420's with screens that size.
>There are also both wxga and matte screens (wxga has better blacks but can be more prone to glare).
>On Linux you will need to manually set some key bindings for some of the special buttons (eg. volume up/down) if you want them to work.
>You can manually tweak the touchpad configuration for it to work to your liking (personally I'm not a touchpad kind of person anyways so I just carry around a small wireless mouse).
>I believe you can remove the disk drive and add another hard drive into the bay if you want. Some on ebay will have this setup.

Personally the only major problems I had with the T420 are mentioned here: >>62092652
I am not sure if they're unique to my setup or if they're common to other T420 Linux users who want a discrete only setup.
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>>62093397
I'm actually 20, thank you very much.
And I feel normal.
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>>62093386
Just because you contract aids from a crack whore doesn't mean you're any better than any virgin.
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>>62093363
/tpg/ BTFO
When will thinklets ever learn?
2560p Master race reporting in.
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>>62094332
I'm not trying to be a dick but any HP product I've had was shit. Thinkpads and macs(when I used to be a mactoddler) were the only laptops I've had that held up for more than 2 years. Buy what you want competition is what makes our shitbooks great.
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This is the laptop from 2011 I still use today.

I actually kinda wish Sony still made laptops.
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>>62094420
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>>62094332
it's shit
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>>62093363
Oh shit, I had one of those back in highschool.

Good laptops, lasted some 4 years of school day abuse and incompetent IT dumbasses.

Was great having a laptop to game on until the school installed spyware that let teachers look through the webcam when the students were connected to the internet, even when at home.

Got worse when I barely dodged Federal charges for removing the spyware.
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Why shouldn't I buy L440 instead of T440p?

>both have socketed upgradeable CPUs
>both have similar dGPU options (720M and 730M)
>both have batteries that extend out the back instead of down
>both can handle tasty 1080p IPS panel

But, the L440 has an Express card slot while the T440p has no means for connecting an eGPU. The L440 just has an uglier bezel.

Thoughts?
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>>62094332
There are hardly any pros compared to x220

>Ugly TN screen with no swappable alternative
>Socketed CPU is nice in theory but cooling is too shit to not throttle quad cores in practice
>chiclet shit keyboard

2560p...for what purpose?
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>>62094638
T440p probably has better cooling so handle quad cores better
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Would it be good screen for my T420? (Now I have 768p one) It would cost me 80$, tho.
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>>62094420
I bought one recently for 80 bucks. VPCE823FM. Sound card needed replacing (2/3 USB ports were smashed) - 30 bucks. Upgraded the RAM to 16GB - 50 bucks. i7 (620m) -25 bucks.

Battery is dead, but I consider that a security feature. Dies the second you unplug it, which is nice for boot encryption. Could have replaced it for 30 bucks though.

All in all, I got a Vaio, which I always wanted for some reason, and made it pretty nice for under 200. Of course, I could have just gotten a fairly decent, similarly specced elitebook for around that price
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>All those raging virgins in this thread


lel, you'll never get laid, brehs.
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>>62094810
>dead pixel policy
what does this mean?
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>>62095816
Their threshold before they consider a panel faulty.
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>>62094425
I almost bought one of those. I really liked how it would integrate into the PS3.
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>>62093363
>paying for education
American """freedom""" everyone!
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>>62093363

I scored 5x perfect dell latitude d830 for free last year

1) installed atheros wifi card for airmon out of my old asus - installed 480gb ssd and run meme of the month linux distros
2)put 1tb hdd and run windows 7 as my portable audio machine with 2x batteries and firewire soundcard (love the mini fw on mobo)
3)gave one to my dad for his retirement office
4)gave (lent) one to a roomate (deadshit) - broke power plug at back - crashed hdd -stepped on machine lid smashed screen getting out of bed on way to take a piss one night (all within a month)
5) spare battery for 2) and general parts bitch

also (pic related) i7 server, macbook air 256gb, macbook g4 ppc, behringer deq2496, behringer dcx2496 (dsp can computer too)
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>>62093363
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>>62096207
those speakers are shit
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>>62096260

tannoy mx2 with ribbon tweeter ?
600 watt class b sub that measures 115db ?
room eq ? digital crossovers ?

you are a massive fucking pleb fuck off
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>>62096207
Good work, anon. no sarcasm.
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>>62093483
no. shit deal. go hunting late at night when the auto listing posts go up.
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>>62096313

thanks ! my main point is that thinkpads are getting memed very heavily supply is finite and prices are bound to keep going up...

i have been poor and know what its like... so if anyone is intetested i can heavily recommend the lattitudes (830) as lesser known just as bulletproof thinkpad alternative... also 5 out of 5 of my machines had excellent batteries and i got mine for FREE. Worth looking into desu.

also just an observation... i think some IBM spergs are treating the thinkpad badge just like apple logo
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Looking for advice on buying a laptop for uni. Old one gave up on me (9 years old dell studio).
Budget: €400-500
Location: Italy
Size: Doesn't matter
Performance: not clogging up when I boot visual studio
Other requirements: none
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>>62096207
Newtonian telescope on a GoTo mount? Astrophotography?
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>>62093611
You let yourself be controlled by women, you are a Slave to them. You worry about them, change your life in order to please them; they occupy your time preventing you from reaching your True potential.
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>>62094547
>installed spyware that let teachers look through the webcam when students were connected to the internet, even at home
I don't want to believe you.
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What's the best Thinkpad if I'm looking for a machine that will be docked 90% of the time?
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>>62096207
>futon matress
neck yourself my dude.
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>>62097536
W-Series workstation. W520 if you like old-style thinkpads, W530 if you can deal with chiclet and don't plan on changing much.

Or a W700ds if you can get your hands on one.
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minimal usable hackintosh thinkpad?
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>>62097557
w530 would be best docked desu

w700ds is just cool
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>>62094429
that's because you didn't buy the brushed metal one anon :^)
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Kek at my offer message from seller.
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>>62098334
>X220t
Be prepared for some mad coil whine. Also, the screen isn't that good at tracking.
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>>62098144
t420
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Is 280 a good price for an x240 with an i7 4600u? Or should I keep waiting
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>>62098591
28 isn't a good price for a **40 series, let alone 280.
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>>62098385
He denied it anyway, I just bought an x200 as well.
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>>62098617
Why do you say that? Is the x230 a better choice even though the CPU is older?
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>>62097362
Italianon here. Pretty much same situation. I've been lurking every single tpg post for like 10 days so I made myself a little culture.
I was originally considering something around €500 but in the end I decided to opt for something cheaper and sturdier, so I could play around with it swapping components and learn GNU/Linux without fear. At first I wanted to get an x230 for the better screen and battery life, but I felt like 12 inches were too small. I ended up buying a t430 base model for €150 so I could taste the last tpg meme. I'll obviously add ram and an SSD and maybe in the future I'll upgrade the CPU.
I bought it some days ago from subito.it and I'm waiting for it to arrive.
That was my choice but if you want something that works out of the box I got suggested some threads ago to go for a t450 or x250.
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>>62096945
What do you mean? Won't auto listings be bad deals too?
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>>62093436
Why, did you knock someone out with the Thinkpad?
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>>62098662
The **40 series is a dumpster fire. Haswell-U, poor heat management and a bad trackpad make that series the single worst thinkpad T- and X-Series laptops in my humble opinipon.

Yes, the X230 is a better choice.
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How good is i5-3320 for normie usage?
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>>62096003
Even if you get it for free, you are paying for it with your taxes retard.
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>>62098662
I'd go for the X240 if you want portability, the touchpad is a big issue but it's replaceable easily and you're not going to get heat issues with a mere 15W TDP ULV processor which will give you better battery life too.
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>>62098864
If you're just browsing the internet and writing word documents, then it's perfectly fine.

It's pretty hard to find an i-series CPU that will be inadequate for normie shit. Buy an SSD and you'll be blazing fast.
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x230i?
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>>62098882
This. At least Americans have the option not to pay for college if they don't go. Brits pay for a college education whether they get one or not.
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>>62097362
Get a W530 and make sure the motherboard has 4 DIMM slotsand the quad core CPU. If you want to compromise for space get an X220/230. Buy an SSD for either. If you get an X make sure the SSD is msata.
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>>62093377
I have a girlfriend and a job, and bought a used thinkpad because it met my needs.

Nice digits

Captcha: MEXICO THIEL
You heard it here first, Peter Thiel is going to buy Mexico
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>>62098864
I'm using it to play Dolphin emu so it will be perfectly fine for facebook or whatever.
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>>62093674
>You have STDs. Unless you've never had sex (which is seeming increasingly likely), you have STDs.
That's not how reality works
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thinkpads are God's greatest gift to mankind.
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>>62096223
nice
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>>62096304
>I paid a lot therefore they arent shit
kys my nigga
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So X240 has a shittier cpu than the X230?
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>>62099614
In raw performance, yes. In battery life the x240 wins because of ULV 15W processor. Both are soldered anyway so you can't upgrade them like the Ts.
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>>62093674
As a thinkpad owner who's had sex and is STD-free, stop being a retard.
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do the dual-core and quad-core t510s have different pin layouts on the cpu? i have an i5- 520m in mine right now and want to upgrade to the quad-core for cheap, but i'm getting conflicting answers on the thinkpad forums
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>>62096207
hm, i recognize this place.
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>>62096223
Is this loss?
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Heya fellas
I'm deciding between an X230, T420, and T430
All the ones I'm looking at are in my budget and have nearly identical specs. The T420 is in the best condition with a 2nd-gen i5 running at 3.5ghz and 4gb of ram, and for worse condition, the X230 and T430 have identical specs (8gb of ram, 3rd gen 2.6ghz i5 (They might be different generations though)) except for the X230 having a 128gb SSD.
I've never owned a Thinkpad before, so I don't think I'll miss anything from the T420 that seems to be such a big deal.

>Budget: ~$300 USD
>Location: Southeast USA
>Size: Small enough to fit in a bookbag with textbooks and shit
>Performance: Would prefer it to be able to handle any bloated IDE I throw at it while also keeping 10 or so Firefox tabs open at the same time under Ubuntu
>Other requirements: Going to be using this for CompSci in college, so it being durable enough to last 4 years of whatever is important. Decent battery life (~6 Hours or so) is important, but I figure a refurb might not have a good battery, so I'll buy a new one if Lenovo still sells it. If Ubuntu out of the box has drivers that are compatible with everything inside, that's a gigantic plus. I don't know enough about Linux to be fucking around with that. I'll settle for following tutorials tailored to specific machines, though.
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is the L-series any good or are you better off buying an older used T-series?
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>>62093363
That image literally makes me see red.
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>>62099978
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X220-12-5-Core-i7-2-8GHz-4GB-500GB-Laptop-Adapter-WiFi-Web-Cam-/311945003575
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My x220 tablet has some dirt cake on it. Is a cotton pad and rubbing alcohol safe to use on it? I don't want to cause irreversible damage to it
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>>62100075
yes
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>>62099978
Xs are for portability and locked to 1336x768 screens but with the option to use an IPS one, meanwhile the Ts support up to 1600x900 but with shitty TN panels that can be solved somewhat with the alienware screen mod, have an upgradeable processor and can use up to 3 drives.

Both as far as i know work instantly out of the box on Linux distros.
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>>62093377
I'm going to go with "deeply immature people who need to bring up their penises even when considering something as utterly nonsexual as their technology choices" are easily swayed by shiny advertising.
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>>62099978
>3.5ghz
No it fucking isn't.
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>>62100086
>>62100075
Saw this on /r/thinkpad:

>A can of compressed air may be useful too, and a bottle of isopropyl alcohol and cotton buds are good for cleaning, but not on the screen.
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>>62099369
>nothing opened
>2gb ram
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>>62100130
>r/thinkpad
get out
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>>62100096
How many drives can you put in an x?
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>>62100074
I see that you're recommending a laptop with an i7, but will I be missing any extra features or functionality from an X230?
Thank you very much
>>62100096
I don't really care about the color accuracy or whatever as long as it gets bright enough to see inside a classroom with fluorescent overhead lighting.
I guess an X-series is better for my usage.
Thanks for the info on Linux. I shouldn't be expecting any strange component incompatibility? Having working wi-fi out of the box is especially important to me.
>>62100110
*2.5ghz
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>>62099708
pls respond
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>>62100150
kys newfag
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>>62100188
Just put a 940xm in it, you'll be FINE.

>>62100182
>I see that you're recommending a laptop with an i7, but will I be missing any extra features or functionality from an X230?
>Thank you very much
You will not be missing any features or functionality from an X230.
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>>62100206
>Defending Leddit
>Calling someone else new
Pick only one
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>>62100206
wew
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>>62100169
Usually two, an msata ssd + ssd or hdd in the main drive bay.

>>62100182
>I shouldn't be expecting any strange component incompatibility? Having working wi-fi out of the box is especially important to me
Nah, intel wlan cards just werk.
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>>62100227
go back to /b/ my dude, rmd threads are more suited for you intellectual level
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>>62100221
940xm? it'll take one of those?

if you aren't pulling my leg i'm pretty darn excited
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>>62100279
Try it. I've been wanting to put on in a T410, and someone said a few threads ago that it would work but maybe get a little hot.
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>>62093377

>Daily reminder that people with homosex lives buy a mac.

ftfy
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>>62099341
His company just makes drones patrol the border
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>>62100286
hmm interesting

i'll get one eventually and give it a shot, i'm poor rn but i'll post in like 2 weeks when i can afford to get one
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Thinking of buying a t440p and upgrade to 1080p ips and change the trackpad. Going to use it for compsci at uni. I've found a t440p for 300 euro, it's used for 1 year, and it says it has 2.5/3 hour battery life. Is that normal? If not, does it just need a new battery?
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>>62100254
Is there a way to replace the optical drive with a hard drive?
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>>62100393
Xs don't have an optical drive, Ts do thus being capable of using three drives simultaneously.
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Why the fuck are the x260/x270 $1k+? It's literally retarded
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>>62093363
What are the best ChinkPads?
X220 is one one them I guess? What's the other good one? I know two get praised the most.

I'm just looking for a bed shitposting machine after a while of not having had a laptop.
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>>62100286
>maybe get a little hot
>a little
The T410 comes with 35W dual cores, if you put a 55W quad core in there it works but with its default cooler it'll be either a massive housefire or end up in macbook-tier throttling. Or both.
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Where can I get a replacement light cover for my T420?
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>>62100254
>>62100221
Thanks again, fellas.
I think I'll spring for that X220 and a new battery
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>>62100501
>bed shitposting machine
Buy a Chromebook
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>>62100588
Get a 9-cell for it. By the way the t420/30 also have 9-cells and use the same M processors as their X counterparts if for some reason you can't find an X.
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>>62100477
How often do the prices change and is there a time of year that's best to buy a thinkpad?
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Which thinkpad has the best battery life? Not really worried about specs that much. If it doesn't have an i7 that's okay. I'm thinking it's like an x200s or something? I'd like something that lasts a long time and has a 9 cell battery option.
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>>62100684
Ye, I'm gonna buy a 9-cell for muh battery life.
Is $60 a good price? That seems to be around what they're going for on Newegg and Amazon
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>>62100714
i got a new OEM 9cell on ebay for 30
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>>62093377
i'm gay and i have a boyfriend and i have a t470
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>>62100768
i'm gay and single and i have a decked out t420

is there room for a third
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>>62095816
Means if your screen has 5 or less dead pixels they wont accept returns.

e.g. it's a shit deal dont buy it
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>>62100182
>I see that you're recommending a laptop with an i7, but will I be missing any extra features or functionality from an X230?
Only better iGPU and backlit keyboard (useless if you can touch type), also usb3.0 ports if the x220 isn't an i7 one.
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>>62093377
>>62093397
but I already have a boyfriend and he bullied me into purchasing a t420
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>>62100713
Something with an ULV processor probably.
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>>62099300
Why do you recommend an msata ssd? That port only has SATA II IIRC. I heard that the IOPS are better, but is it really worth it?
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>>62098895
This. Also, with the 6 cell battery, the thing is going to last all day.

The newest thinkpads use the same design, so replacement parts are going to be readily available for a long time also.
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>>62101089
Its fast enough and you get to throw a huge traditional HDD in the 2.5in bay if you want
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>>62101089
>Why do you recommend an msata ssd? That port only has SATA II IIRC.
Not him but you won't be able to tell the difference in daily usage anyway. Also he probably meant to have an ssd + storage hdd setup.
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>>62100936
Girl or gay?
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about to order one of these. Is it worth it to replace desktop keyboard? Currently using a Dell PS/2 keyboard from 2004.
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>>62094429
why are 2007 era laptops literally the last actualy laptops? now all we have is thinshit with weak ass processors. The only way to get a decent laptop now is fork out the money for an alienware.
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>>62101138
THanks. That is actually a really good idea, thanks.
>>62101126
Thanks. How much are these small msata ssd's anyway? What length does fit?
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>>62101193
This is what I bought

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147410
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>>62101175
Because pre-2007 laptops were designed with business and work in mind. After 2007 with the introduction of smartphones laptops started to shift towards gay thin shit in an effort to bank off the smartphone craze by getting normalfags to also buy laptops.
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>>62101193
>How much are these small msata ssd's anyway?
Roughly the same as a typical 2.5" HDD now that everyone is going with m.2 ssds.

>What length does fit?
Whatever length the samshit msata 850 EVO is, i have one on my T420.
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>>62101205
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147410
The prices are actually good. 250 GB for 94€ and 149€ for 500GB. With 51nb's mod for SATA III you can add one drive more.

On that matter, would it be better to install that mod and use the drive fully. That cuts one SATA port from the dock though.
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>>62097502
It's real. A few schools got in a fuckton of trouble for recording underage students in their homes undressing.
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>>62101256
Thanks. The prices are actually good.
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>>62100603
Why should I? Chromebooks are great portable machines, I don't need it to be portable, I just want it to be on the nightstand when I need it.
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Is there any chance of the retro coming with a dedicated GPU or should I just shell out for a T470 now?
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why is this the state of current Lenovo marketing?
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i posted in the last thread and didn't really get a reply

has anyone tried replacing their thinklights with a brighter LED? the one i have is adequate but i'd like something just a little bit brighter (and less yellow)
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>>62101480
You should look if the used LED is an SMD one. You would need to replace the resistor too if you want it to be brighter. You could try out a new LED too
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>>62101405
because they can't even make a decent docking station
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>>62101499
kinda thinking about putting a custom color in there but i don't know how garish that would be in reality

i never considered replacing the resistor, small electronics aren't really my forte
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>>62101530
Make it pink and cute
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Just ordered a T420 with an i5-2520M for about 127 dollaridoos. How did I do?
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>>62101530
You would need to measure the resistance and replace it with 330, or 220 Ohms. The same SMD size obviously
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>>62101564
upgrade the screen and processor now
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>>62101540
that was the plan :3
i wanted to get an extra keyboard and see about changing the coloring on the letters to make it match

>>62101582
will keep this in mind ty anon
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>>62101600
Just remember that different LED colors have different forward voltages and thus need different value resistors
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What mods did 51nb make. I know of the pepe FHD board and the SATA III board
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>>62101624
good to know

i'll probably write all this stuff down and have someone more confident in tearing this thing apart do it for me honestly
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>>62101648
Yeah. Working with SMD parts only with a soldering iron is a pita. You would need a soldering hot air station. They are somewhat expensive. It is absolutely possible with a normal soldering iron, but it takes a LOT of patience.
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I've been issued this laptop at work for my next assignment (geodata management). A Fujitsu E556, 7500U, 8GB, 250GB SSD.

But holy hell does it feel cheap, the plastic is just some hard, creaking stuff, it's matte, but it still get marks like a shiny plastic would. Plus the trackpad and keyboard are awful.

Good thing it's gonna be docked most of the time.

I checked the Fujitsu shop, in this config, except for the 1080p screen I couldn't find, it's a 2300$ laptop, yet it feels like I'm holding a 400$ acer laptop.
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I need a laptop that I am only going to use for writing documents. It will not be used for anything else. It'll basically be a portable typewriter. Which thinkpad has the best keyboard?
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>>62101678
eugh i seriously don't trust myself with small components and a soldering iron lmao

unrelated, what's a good (cheap!) egpu to attach to a docking station? i don't do much aside from cs:go and second life so i don't need anything crazy
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>>62101705
Maybe a T60? It is cheap and enough for Libreoffice
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>>62101591
I think the processor will be more than adequate for my use. My shitty old Acer laptop with a Core 2 Duo was good enough for me the 7 years it lived. I'll look into getting a new screen, though.
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>>62101696
fujitsu still makes computers?
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>>62101724
Yeah, I can't imagine using anything more than an i5 in my x220. I already have enough thermal issues as it is, even with new thermal paste
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>>62101711
exp gdc + cheap atx psu + used 950 or 960
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>>62101161
it depends

if you're typing up essays each day its probably worth it
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>>62101711
>>62101769
Just don't go chink PSU shit. Puy beQuiet or Corsair if you don't want your house to burn down.
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>>62101769
was looking at these, wasn't sure if it was good or not
i have a 1050ti already laying around, will it handle that card or is it 2much?

>>62101788
noted
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>>62101696
Give it back and tell them to get you a T936
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>>62101788
Posts like these are funny when you're used to assemble builds with $10-$15 cheap knockoff PSUs since forever and they just werk. Same with my old eGPU setup, a $10 or so 500W PSU and it got the job done.

Not insulting or anything, i just find funny the radical difference between two points of views.

>>62101805
>i have a 1050ti already laying around, will it handle that card or is it 2much?
It'll work, but from personal experience it was very unstable with Pascal. The 950 i had before worked flawlessly.
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Is it really worth having 1600x900 resolution over 1368x768 when programming?
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>>62101838
It's not like every chink PSU is gonna burn your house down. It's just something you don't wanna think "What if " if your house burns down. It's not helping that it is using mains voltage. There are good ones though. I just don't know any brands.
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>>62100515
eBay.
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>>62101725
Yup, but afaik they only supply businesses now. Their stuff is quite unimpressive in general, we have some deskops too at work, and they're just as disapointing, noisy (the laptop is too), lack of ports, no dust filtering at all.

The E556 has a tool-less removable dust filter though.

>>62101820
Well you know how it works with big companies, they pick one supplier, and they go all in.

A tablet wouldn't make much sense either, this laptop is gonna spend most of its life docked with 3 monitors, except for some business meetings and such.
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Can someone post a link to the T420 modded BIOS?
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>>62101947
Which one?
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>>62101947
my.mixtape.moe/yvasab.zip
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>>62101978
The one that lets me have a custom boot screen.
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>>62101980
Arigatou, Akarin!
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>>62101981
This is what you're looking for:
https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-REQUEST-Whitelist-Lenovo-T420-BIOS-v-1-22-83uj05us?pid=95857#pid95857
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>>62101981
That's not a feature of the modded BIOS though, the original ones let you change the boot screen as well.

The point of the modded BIOS is removing the pci whitelist, unlocking extra settings and 1866MHz ram.
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What's up with everyone getting buttblasted about chiclet keyboards? It is amazing for my gorilla tier hands and the fact it has bit spacing. I understand not everyone has big hands
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>>62102099
I have small fagboi hands and i like the chiclet keys better, it's subjective.
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How do I remove the boot text?
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>>62102130
Ayy dude i made that one a couple of threads back, gimme the original .png again because i didn't save the .psd and i'll do it.

>>62102150
check the last thread
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>>62102167
Sweet, thanks.
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>>62102130
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>>62101838
interesting. i'm gonna buy it anyways and give it a shot

>>62101899
it's a shame that laptops are so shit tier nowadays. i'm no thinkpad shill but i'm starting to think that nobody even really compares
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>>62102180
my.mixtape.moe/vmccll.gif
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>>62101564
I just ordered a T420 off Newegg for $115. Installed a 120GB of ram, and another 4gb of ram. Shit is running pretty smooth fampai. Just waiting on the battery cause the refurb one is shit only last 90 minutes top. All the upgrades cost less than 100 bucks and I will only be using it for school.
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>>62101947
does the t510 support custom boot screens? i looked on thinkwiki but maybe i'm retarded
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>>62102325
120gb SSD not ram* :-)
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>>62102319
Cute!
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>>62102319
bigger and less choppy logo my.mixtape.moe/imhgkg.gif

>>62102333
It should, it was a thing in c2d thinkpads as well.
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>>62099369
My windows 10 install has better idle ram usage. Probably better functionality too :^)
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Does it matter which slot I install my RAM in or is either fine?
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>Want to buy X220
>Don't want to be stuck with 768p cancer
What do?
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>>62101525
I have a t410 running an i5 520m and I have to crank the clock speed down to 85% unless I get one of those vacuum coolers otherwise it throttles at 180°F (80°C). It sucks, but otherwise it's never died on me.
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>>62102468
768p is literally perfect for 12-inch screens.
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>>62102465
occupy the slot closest to the surface of the mobo if theyre stacked
the one on the left-hand side if they're next to each other
the one on top if theyre parallel
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>>62102468
If you're so concerned, order a compatible 12" 1080p panel and insert it in the laptop.
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>>62102493
Which side is the bottom, the battery or the touchpad?
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>>62102448
Low Quality Bait
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>>62102487
Windows is shit for scaling and everything looks big, it's unusable.
>Install Linux

>>62102508
I didn't knew there were compatible FHD panels for X220.
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>>62102509
refer to the labels
make sure they are not upside-down
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>>62102468
There is a 51nb fhd mod. It uses a board with pepe on it
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>>62102550
We'll it's more of a mod, but yeah.
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>>62102383
Yuruyuris make everything comfy.
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>>62102605
I would rather not cannibalize the VGA port.
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>>62102550
It looks fine at 100% scaling, pic related.
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>>62102681
>1366x768
How much is LASIK in your area?
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Should I use it on the laptop I take to classes too?
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I've been hunting for a T440s with a GT 730m dGPU in it but searching has proved futile. Only T440p's come up.

As far as I know, this was only sold in europe and I'm from the UK. Anyone got any suggestions on how to locate one of these or is it just a scarcity problem?
Also I'm assuming it can't be retrofitted since wasn't the design modified to accommodate the dGPU?
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>>62099690
This.
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>>62102813
???
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>>62102878
>wanting a T440s
literally why
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Is the x220 for 180$ a good deal, it's refurbished
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>>62102940
Fuck no
Refurbished means dusted off and checked to make sure it boots.
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>>62102987
Then how much should I pay for it the x220 seems to be the best fit for my taste
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>>62102901
Swap the trackpad for a t450s which has buttons and you've got a thinkpad with swappable batteries, strong FHD IPS screen, long battery life, good port selection and a dGPU that's fit for casual gaming.
My only gripe would be the keyboard layout.

I have an x220 at the moment and I'm a software dev, I code on this a lot but as nice as the screen is, 720p is too small for productivity.

So why not?
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>>62103053
>trackpad
shiggy diggy
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>>62103008
Mine was $100 off eBay, spend some time looking around.
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>>62102487
No way. Its not suitable on any size screen if your eyes work.
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Can someone link the modded BIOS for the X220? Is it the same as the T420 one here
>>62101980
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>>62103072
What? The point in replacing it is so you don't have to use the shitty touch buttons when using the trackpoint. If it weren't possible to swap in the physical buttons it'd be in the trash.
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>>62103117
Ah, I misunderstood and thought you were actually using the trackpad. Can't you install a 20 series keyboard and palmrest with an EC flash?
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>>62103097
No it's not the same, flash that and your x220 will crash with no survivors.

I only have the modded bioses for the T420 and the T520, sorry.
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>>62103136
I know you can on the t430, not sure about the t430s. I'd hazard to guess you probably can't.

For all the other benefits and the fact I'd have a 20 series as a second machine I think I could live with it. The giant delete key and the ergonomics around that cluster plus the browser nav buttons being swapped for pgup/dn is what I'd miss the most. But fuck it.
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I'm planning on getting my first thinkpad, an x230.
This:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X230-12-5-INTEL-CORE-I5-3230M-2-60GHZ-8GB-128Gb-WINDOWS-10-PRO-/222499822453?hash=item33ce05db75:g:ml0AAOSw42JZC8lT
this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230-2325JQ8-12-5-2-90GHZ-CORE-i7-3520M-8GB-320GB-WEBCAM-/372056185444?hash=item56a046da64:g:qY8AAOSwZetXPJVr
Which one, /g/?
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>>62102681
Completely subjective, my friend.
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>>62103253
>>62102813
>>62103094
>needing more than 130ppi on a travel laptop
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>>62099057
the "i" stands for inferior senpai
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>>62103289
I need more than 130ppi to stop my eyes from bleeding. Also there's no reason besides the screen to stop me from being as productive as I'd like
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>>62102487
1440x900p is literally perfect for 12-inch screens
Fixed it for you
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>>62102543
Do you want me to post a screenshot just for you anon kun?
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>>62103342
This.
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>>62103289
The x201s doesn't have this problem
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>tfw x220 tablet so I can't replace the screen
Guess I should just git gud at alt-tabbing
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>>62099369
I'm jealous that you can run Gnome 3 on your iGPU. My Sandy Bridge one shits itself because of heat issues that I can't seem to fix when I have external monitors connected
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>>62093377
i lead a normal life and i have a mid range dell, why would i spend a fuck ton of money on an internet machine.
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Purchase request template:
Budget: $1000/£800
Location: UK
Size: 12-13 inch
Performance: needs to be able to run two monitors, upwards of 20 tabs open, not shit the bed when i open slack, firefox, discord and multiple flash/html5 websites
Other requirements:Battery life > 6 hours with moderate-heavy single screen use.


I have an old X201 now. its getting pretty laggy, it has 4GB ram and an i5 processor

I like the size of it, the touch pad is shit, but the trackpoint is godly
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>>62103516
>Windows 10
?
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>>62103516
FHD x240 + touchpad swap or FHD x250
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Get an x220, put more RAM and an SSD in, and and clean the heatsink. It will cost a lot less than your budget
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>>62093377
Daily reminder that obvious bait is obvious
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>>62103560
Intended for >>62103516
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x200 with more ram and an sdd
would this be ok for babby's first thinkpad?
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>>62103560
Will a stock i5 or i7 be fine and at least last a couple of years?

>>62103555
Do you mean retrofit an FHD screen to a stock 240 or 250, touchpad i dont care about, I use a mouse at a desk and the trackpoint when lying down


thanks
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Is there any chance of getting a decent battery for a T60?
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Hey niggers, I bought this old t400 for cheap to use in uni for making notes during lectures and other low resource stuff. What's the most power efficent retard friendly linux distro I should install on this? Lubuntu? Currently has w7 and only 2 hours of battery life on it. I also heard it has a free slot for SO-DIMM ram. Can I buy pic related, smash it in there and be good?
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>>62103726
Touchpad swap is for buttons, you don't want shitty buttons for you track point do you?
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>>62103726
>Do you mean retrofit an FHD screen to a stock 240 or 250
If you can't find one with the FHD screen already, sure why not.
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>>62101161
I would say no
Trackpoint is nice but it's not better than a fuckin mouse
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>>62103738
New battery.
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is the i7-940xm a worthwhile upgrade? i've heard it works in the t510 but i don't know if the added performance would justify the cost
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>>62101405
I thought this commercial was cool
>thinkpad so tough you can bust open a wall with one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_0YhRac2tk&feature=youtu.be
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What's the cheapest ThinkPad that can do 1920x1080 IPS and isn't a housefire?
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>>62103756
that costs money and installing lubuntu or some other meme does not
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>>62103824
I saw a T440p on my local craigslist for $120
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>>62103806
Try the 920xm then, it's cheaper and comes by default with some W510s so i guess the similarly sized T510 could use it fine.
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>>62103860
there's also the cheaper 820qm and 720qm if you just want a quad core.
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>>62103836
Have you done a battery reset
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>>62103860
>>62103890
went ahead and bought a 920xm. i figure with that and an egpu i can be an effective degenerate on second life
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>>62104040
Post again when you get it, I'm curious about how a T510 will handle a 55W TDP quad core.
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>>62104078
i was worried about cooling at first but the cpu i have in here right now is producing basically no heat at all

i'm hoping it works alright but we shall see
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>>62093363
Bought a "refurbished" thinkpad t420 from Amazon last week for $200. The screen and the keyboard are pretty new looking. Everything works pretty swell, with a few exceptions which I will explain.

I have FreeBSD 11.1 installed and I also tested out Windows 10. The DVD-rom drive doesn't work well. It's hard to get it to read anything. I just ordered a hard drive caddy and a hard drive to replace the optical media drive entirely. I'll probably put Windows 10 on the older hard drive (it has 3 years of life on it already) and then install FreeBSD again on the new harddrive.

The battery only has about a 3rd of the Watt hours it's supposed to have when new. So I'll probably have to buy a new battery before I go on a trip with it.

Next time I want to buy a used laptop I'm definitely going to consider craigslist. I'd hardly consider this "refurbished" laptop in like new condition.
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>>62093377
I fuck women every weekend, am ripped, tall and attractive.
I'm also a systems architect who uses a ThinkPad with Gentoo.
>the chad developer
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>>62099217
they are retarded for not going then.
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>>62104108
complain to amazon about it, if you haven't already bought anything, may get a partial discount
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Does anyone know how to disable the super obnoxious beeping that happens with this shit?

In the bios the only options under beeps and alarm are keyboard and password beeps, both of which make no difference. Everytime I turn on my laptop with critical battery it attempts to deafen both me and anyone else within a 50m vicinity.

It's a thinkpad 13, but I imagine other models might have the same issue.
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>>62104308
mute button
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>tfw waiting for thinkpad to arrive
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>>62104331
Doesn't do anything in the bios
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>>62104308
Keep your laptop charged then dumbfuck
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>>62104354
Works on my machine
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>>62104396
You mean the mute light comes on?
When I try it literally nothing happens.

Also, everytime I press an invalid key in the BIOS it beeps at me again.
I think I'm just gonna open it up and unplug the speakers at this point.
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>>62104336
>tfw waiting for six thinkpad upgrades to arrive
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>>62104530
i don't even know why i keep doing it. i don't even use any of them, i just keep buying new thinkpads and upgrading them

the anticipation of waiting for parts to come in the mail just feels too good
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>>62104565
I'm stuck with a 1366x768 t440p with HDD in 2017 though, fucking awful.

When everything arrives this thing will be pretty much an entirely new machine, with the FHD IPS panel, quad core cpu, decent touchpad and SSD among other things.
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>>62104603
i want to get a new touchpad for my t510 i think, i took the sticker off but it's a little shitty even without it

what's the best one?
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>upcoming Thinkpad A275/A475 isn't raven ridge but bristol ridge
I am so fucking disappointed
Why would they even bother
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>>62104603
Why shouldnt I get an L440 and do the same upgrades?

The L440 has an expresscard on top of all of that so I could use it as an EGPU

It doesnt even barely look any different and even supports the same battery as T440P
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is this a good deal?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/322674211563

if it is someone can buy it, i'm too poor right now but it looks tempting
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>>62104336
>>62104530
>tfw waiting for thinkpad AND upgrades to arrive

I got a BIOS-locked W500 I'm going to libreboot and install a better processor in. ;D
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>>62104668
I don't think you need another touchpad and don't even know if there's another one available for that model.

I don't even use the touchpad, just want to transplant the T450 touchpad on my T440p so the trackpoint becomes usable with separate physical buttons instead of the clickpad abomination this thing has.

>>62104752
No idea really, i just know that this thing had a 47W quad core processor option as default processor instead of the L440's 37W so probably it has better cooling, aside from that i don't know if there's more significant differences.
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hai, i recently installed void + i3 on my x220t.
for some reason the mute button is lit up, and when i press it nothing happens. Im assuming this is why i cant get any sound.

I added
bindsym XF86AudioMute exec $mute
set $mute --no-startup-id amixer sset Master toggle

but it doesnt do nothin.
what do? thanks !
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>>62103428
I actually just replaced my X220 tablets screen recently. It is in fact possible, just a lot of screws compared to the bezels that just snap off.
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>>62104966
fixed it by installing alsa-util :)
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is there a pdf or something that shows which screws go in which holes ? i have an extra two, but they dont fit.
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>>62105058
I'm worried about the digitizer working properly with a higher res screen
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>>62101276
Citation needed
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>>62105431
Not him, but that kinda thing was all over the news a few years ago here.
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Fuck me dGPU models are non existent. I've spent 3 hours looking for one and nothing. I guess that's that then
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>>62093377
>sex
Look at this fucking nerd lol
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>>62100374
bump

its going to be 400 euros for the base t440p with a 1080p. is that worth it?
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>>62093377
>Daily reminder that only virgins who think they're hackers for using Arch buy used thinkpads.
Daily reminder that only virgins who think they're hackers for using Arch buy used thinkpads.
>Daily reminder that people with normal sex lives buy a mac.Daily reminder that people with normal sex


Why do i get the feeling that you're a virgin?
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>>62105465
Then get an older model (**20 is popular) and hook up an eGPU
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>>62104108
>paid $200 for a T420
lmao
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should I customize my thinkpad to have the SSD and max RAM when it's built or is it better/cheaper for me to upgrade it myself
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Will a battery slice make my X220 too thick to be convenient? Which one should I buy?
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>>62093377
Lol, sounds like you have buyer's remorse. How are those dongles working out for you?
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>>62106012
don't know which slice you should get, but it does make the computer EXTRA THICC
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>>62105998
Not a terrible deal. You can spend close to $100 just on a hard drive these days. I've spent far more on strippers on a night out.
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>>62106309
Mine was $60, just because other things cost more doesn't mean anything about the price of the laptop.
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>tfw getting amazing laptops at 1/13th the original price
wew
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>>62102220
used it as my coreboot splash ;)
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>>62106391
Use the better one
>>62102388
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>>62106403
>my.mixtape.moe/imhgkg.gif
okay, recompiled. thanks!
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>>62106364
I got Bomberman 2 on NES for $4. Doesn't mean I can just walk into a store and do it again.
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>>62106391
post pics
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>>62106424
You can buy a T420/X220 from a real store for less than $200, usually sub-$150.
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>>62102857
If it's another laptop use a Kyouko one.
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>>62106456
Yeaaaa...I saw one on craigslist that was around $150, but I was working that week and I wanted one from Amazon prime without having to do much for it. No regrets.

In the time I would have spent fucking around with setting up a craigslist deal, I probably made enough money to make up for it.
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>>62106461
That's a cute idea, I can hang out and play with Kyouko all day and come back home to best girl Yui.
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>>62106456
It's not really usual anon.
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>>62106698
It is, anon.
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>>62106430
cant fit it to 3 MB, but, here...
https://my.mixtape.moe/wnqryg.webm
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>>62093377
why do normies care about sex so much? seems like a thing that only younger under 30 year old people care about.
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>>62105431
How about being in one of the schools that had it? I should know because I was OP.

It was barely on the news but because the company that technically owned the laptops and had the software installed was a multi billion dollar firm and was essentially keeping the city alive, it never reached outside of the city.

I talked to friends not even 50 miles out of town and nobody in the next city over had even heard of it. Here at least, it was kept with a tight lid on it.

The software itself was some parent computer monitoring bullshit. It was really sketchy because there was little to no information about it online. You couldn't even buy a license or copy online,. You had to order it through the phone. And what made it really sketchy was the fact that it not only allowed access to webcams, but turned off the light that lit up when the camera was on. It did other stuff like let teachers take control of the co.puter, see their screen, displayed their screen, et cetera.

I dont remember how true what I heard was, but apparently it started with a student being suspended for a teacher catching him share what she thought were pills, but turned out to be tic taks through the web cam. It went from there when a parent who was a lawyer, heard the story through his daughter, ordered a copy of the program, and found what its capabilities were.


How to turn Admin back on, restore it from being removed, how to flash and roll back the computers security and firewall, how to corrupt the program itself that was the cause of all this, proxies to get around the internet blocks.

It sounds completely unrealistic, completely fictional but I can assure, truth is stranger than fiction.
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whats the weakness of thinkpad? they cant be perfect
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This a good deal for buy it now? I bought a t420 for this price before but it had some cosmetic damage.
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>>62107375
New thinkpads aren't good, and lenovo hasn't made a classic thinkpad again. Also some of the later thinkpads have the wifi drm and battery drm.
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>>62107375
you'll get judged for having a dinosaur laptop
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>>62106845
Kawaii as fug, are you using a HDD? doesn't seem too different from the stock BIOS speed-wise in booting.
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>>62106845
Autism
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>>62102319
>>62102388
Any chance you could do the same thing (with the logo on the left side) with this one? I'd like a matching pair.
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>>62107724
gotcha f4m my.mixtape.moe/cyqgex.gif

making these things is fun
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>>62107935
If you enjoy them, give me a minute to find Akari and Chinatsu.
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>>62107935
Akarin~
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>>62107935
Couldn't find a good one for Chinatsu, but she's worst girl anyway. Here's a Sakurako instead.
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Can someone link the X220 modded BIOS? I want to use these cute boot screens.
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>>62108087
my.mixtape.moe/qynabh.gif

>>62108012
my.mixtape.moe/bfxqsr.gif
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>>62108150
See >>62102004
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>>62108167
Are you going to link it or not?
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>>62108183
install gentoo
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