/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>61986164
Just installed Linux Mint. It's a good choice for new users from what I've seen so far.

OK so. Manjaro+openRC has been my recent fave go to for Linux because the architect installer is easy enough for me as a Linux noob to figure out, but I get to use AUR and make it relatively lean with minimal XFCE. But they've dropped it to move to Artix Linux now and merged with the systemD free Arch whatever it was called. And now from their page the install page is missing and only migration is left up. I wanted to do a base install but it's just a live ISO... I can boot that obviously but I have no idea where to go from there because it's a totally new distro and the regular Arch Linux installer guides all use systemd references. Where do I go from here cause I'd like to move to Artix and figure it out more but I really don't know what to search honestly. -_- tia

http://www.strawpoll.me/13742041
http://www.strawpoll.me/13742041
http://www.strawpoll.me/13742041

GNOME or KDE?

Anyone here use LXC (as opposed to LXD) in Debian (LXD isn't available in Debian, that's why)?

I want to set up a container to avoid shitting up my main system, probably going to be Debian within Debian or maybe Alpine, anything to keep it simple. How is LXC?

Is there some guide to minimal kernel configuration?
I want to make the smallest kernel possible and I want to know which features I absolutely need for a working desktop system.

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Install Source Mage GNU/Linux
https://sourcemage.org/

>>61986164
ARCH LINUX IS A SHIT

>>61986516
stop spamming

>>61986550
LXC is good. I recommend managing your LXC containers with virt-manager.

>>61986654
You couldn't handle 290km/h anyway.

>>61986554
Just use make kconfig and Google/code dive for every option that you don't understand.

>>61986804
>code dive
what do you mean?
is there documentation embedded in the source code?

>>61986815
You can look at the argument parsing and see how each one modifies behavior.

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>>61986613

>>61986862
What arguments are you talking about?
.config options?
How do I found out how they're parsed?

Please spoonfeed me the proper method of installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 17.04. I've wasted a lot of hours trying to not black screen on reboot, and the usual grub fixes don't work.
OS: Ubuntu Studio 17.04
gpu: gtx 1060
Spoonfeed me as in please show me someone who has succesfully done this, and shows how.

>>61986888
Read the code. That's all it comes down to.

>>61986941
Why does it say "If unsure, say Y" here?
I don't think I'm using any 32bit PCI devices..

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>>61986941
Forgot pic.
Also, I don't have an AMD processor.

>>61987021
It says that because if you don't include the driver and you need it, USB and sound stop working.

>>61987070
Do you think I need it on an x220?

Im about to install Ubuntu. LTS or the latest one?

>>61987070
Nvm I found a good explanation https://lwn.net/Articles/288430/

>>61987099
DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE BRAIN DAMAGE? WERE YOU DROPPED ON YOUR HEAD AS A CHILD? HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BE THIS FUCKING DUMB? IT SAYS "FOR AMD PROCESSORS" AND YOU HAVE AN INTEL SYSTEM. GEE GOLLY GEEPERS I SURE WONDER IF YOU NEED THAT KERNEL MODULE.

>>61987141

LTS.

>>61987141
Do you want stable or the latest software?
>>61987161
Please stop yelling.

>>61987190
>Do you want stable or the latest software?
Id say stable. It is for my dad.

>>61987219
LTS then.

>>61987190
>>Do you want stable or the latest software?
wat, software freshness isn't related to the ubuntu version

Distros which don't follow the rolling release model are useless.

>>61986815
The source code is documentation. It sometimes even had comments.
The kconfig files enable modules to be built, they list what files and directories.

>>61986925
No-one here uses ubuntu and proprietary drivers.

How long does it take to compile mpv?

i saw a command here the other day to get invisible windows in i3, what was it again?

>>61987380
Not long. Compilation really, really benefits from fast SSDs or ramdisks and moar cores.

>>61986164
>>61986164
i asked in the last thread but nobody could answer; recommend me a distro that will work on a 2-in-1 laptop/tablet with an intel atom at 1.4ghz and 2gb ram

>>61987424

Lubuntu / Xubuntu

Does rsync -u work between ext4 and ntfs? Can't tell if I'm doing something wrong or not because I don't know the first thing about ntfs. Or ext4, for that matter.

>>61987424
Most of those are 32 bit UEFI and a 64 bit CPU. The Debian amd64/i386 netinstall image is your best bet for an amd64 install.

How to achieve the maximum quality transparent audio output on Linux?

>>61987488
Use a USB DAC and (not meming) PulseAudio. It can make even cheapass Amazon Basic speakers sound glorious.

>>61986677
Make me

>>61987488
Transparent?

>>61986687
Sounds good thanks

>>61987519
I have a very nice DAC. I want to get the most of it.
>>61987538
As close to pure sound as possible without any sound effects or other shit modifying it. On win i used WASAPI output to bypass all of the windows bullshit.

>>61987444
Nevermind, I'm dumb and it works now.

>>61987461
that sounds right, gonna try installing that now.

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Should i tick those two?

>>61987717
Just the first.

>>61987760
the second also unless you don't mind waiting till you need it to find out you're missing an audio codec or shit like that

>>61987717
Actually don't listen to that fag, just tick the 2nd. If you download updates the installation will take ages.

>>61987714
make sure whatever you're using has a modern kernel like 4.11 or 4.12, they got the hella driver upgrades in recent kernels

adding in 32 bit uefi to any linux distro install media is pretty ezmodo and installing 32 bit uefi ain't no struggle

>>61987802
>install a bag of nonfree software, just in case

>>61987802
>missing an audio codec
Isnt my audio player or whatnot should be able to decode everything?

>>61987621
Linux doesn't use any bullshit or effects by default. All output is transparent with ALSA or PulseAudio unless you specifically dick with it to be otherwise.

>>61987827
>Muh freedum
Do we need to bring /flt/ back yet again? People should install whatever the fuck they like

>>61987827
unless you're a freetard it's shit you'll need

>>61987846
Reposting because I like it:

>about to cross the street
>someone yells: HOLD ON, A CAR IS COMING!
>you: REEEE STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO

>>61987829
Nowadays yes. It's basically just downloading the """officially licensed""" codec implementations, which back 15 years ago were all you could get.

>>61987883
that is in no way a sane comparison, and the fact that you think it is, says a lot about your mental state

>>61987846
>People should install whatever the fuck they like
Did anyone forbid installing anything?

>>61987833
So defaults are as good as it gets?
>ALSA or PulseAudio
Are they equal in sound quality?

>>61987903
+1, beat me to it

>>61987846
>/flt/
You mean that 404'd satire thread?

Guys, chill. I just dont want to install any unnecessary "mp3 and other media" bloat if i can just install mpv and it will play everything just fine.

>>61987942
If you miss anything, you can install it later anyway.

>>61987933
It's still in the archive. We can bring it back any time you stop taking your autism meds.
>>61987942
You shut up. This isn't about you any more.

>>61987388
okay i figured it out:

i3-msg open

but, this window is kind of glitchy and shows a title bar even when i have them disable - how do i fix this?

>>61987917
The defaults just expose the kernel drivers via thin userspace library wrapper and let applications do with it what they will (ALSA), or provide a sound server that doesn't mess with EQ or effects by default (PulseAudio). PulseAudio has a bit of latency overhead, but is generally better for playback, and provides a very nice point and click interface for managing inputs, outputs, per-application volumes, and the like, called pavucontrol. I honestly miss pavucontrol when I have to use Windows. If you want to get really esoteric there's JACK, but JACK is just a lower latency audio server and uses the same ALSA kernel drivers anyway.

comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)

Is there a Debian equivalent to this? On Ubuntu it outputs the user-installed package list.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61987917
Pulse uses alsa. Not sure how to tell pulse to stop transcoding to 48k and just give your dac 44.1 but you might want to look that up.

>>61987995
>>61988012
Thanks a lot guys. Can you suggest me some good audio player?

I'll soon complete my ryzen build, and hopefully install arch on it. Any major problems on this plataform that I should be aware of? (I mean, linux running on ryzen)

>>61988054
There's an entire thread discussing that up right now, and I've already posted in it. Here ya go.

>>61985410

>>61988101
i've heard that if you try to do some heavy compiling on ryzen, you will get a segfault, i don't know if it's still true, but looked like a nasty problem,

>>61988101
There's an obscure bug that can cause segfaults if you're running 16+ compiler threads at once on some of the early Ryzen chips. AMD is looking into it.

>>61988136
>>61988137
I see. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I've heard that the linux experience atm was not optimal, but is stable enough for daily stuff. I guess I'll be fine then.

>>61986301
Install arch
Follow the openrc wiki page during installation

Never use downstream distro's

>>61986164
What DE or WM would be best for control with a keyboard but with out much of a learning curve? The primary things I would like to do (aside from alt tab) is resize and move/manage my open windows and launch/close applications.
I was thinking maybe just lxqt and some kind of launcher program?
I have a 2016 laptop so it's a modern synaptics touchpad but god is it so fucking bad.
I don't own any Apple products but damn would I like to have one of those non-pro macbooks for that touchpad and screen right about now.
Thanks for your time guys, I'm open to any suggestions. Base is vanilla arch with xfce at the moment.

>>61986301

>is "starting out"
>but he's already so advanced that he demands a different system management suite that's not systemd

>>61988524
>Never use downstream distro's
should be enshrined in OP

Looking for a lightweight, user friendly, easy to use and decent looking distro for a fairly old ASUS eee pc, thank you very much!

>>61988700

Every distribution can be the same amount of lightweight.
Every distribution can be the same amount of user friendly.
Every distribution can look the same.

Maybe try new criteria which actually matter.

>>61988580

Every window manager offers keyboard shortcuts to change, open, close and move windows.

>>61988718
Just looking for a quick fix to my old man's laptop and I don't have a lot, if any experience with Linux.

>>61988748
>old man
Put windows on it then retard,if you cant fix it why do you think your old man is going to know a brand new interface?

>>61988770
Well even he complains about the speed so I figured it'd run a bit smoother if it ran linux.

>>61988748

Install Ubuntu like any other person.

I have a disk image stored on the network and mounted as a loop device on one of my machines. Will shit blow up if I mount it on a different machine at the same time?

Is there a browser that's recommended when switching from Windows to a Linux distro?
I've used Chrome in the past which had some nice apps such as uBlock and a soundcloud downloader

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Why is this happening

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>>61988580
KWin lets you set custom keyboard shortcuts for literally a 100+ window management actions, and as for launching apps (and much more), krunner is god-tier.

Is it possible to make a shortcut for Spectacle to trigger a rectangle selection screenshot?

>>61988803

Firefox is free software.

>>61988700
I've got Debian in my 701 but it's a tight squeeze these days.

>>61988785
Try lubuntu.

>>61988840

I don't know what Spectacle is, but it is possible.

>bind keyboard shortcut to launch a script
>the script gets a selection with slop
>feeds that to some screenshooting program
>it saves it

>>61988803
Chrome works on Linux too.

>>61988896
I was hoping for something not chrome since I fell for the botnet meme
>>61988874
Is firefox considered botnet?

>>61988891
thanks!

>>61988916

I suggest you first stop being retarded and gullible. Then when you start spouting retarded shit like "botnet" without even knowing what it is, ask the question again.

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>>61988840
Probably, but you can also alt+space, type "rec" in krunner.

>>61988934

>then when you stop*

>>61988934
For one, I noticed Chrome started suggesting exactly what I wanted in its built in search engine from as little as one keyword.

>>61988958
That sounds ... really great!

>>61989015
Your sarcasm is shit, which is why you have no one likes you

>>61988286
There will probably be a kernel patch anyway.

>trying out KDE git unstable developer edition
>Installs okay
>Boot up and there's no fucking internet. Not with wifi, though it's connected to the router. Not with Ethernet.
I mean I expected problems but this is turbofaggot territory.

>>61988886
Thanks man I'll try it out!

Holy shit though, Neon is using way less RAM at startup than either Unity or GNOME. 394mb. But no internet makes it kinda gay.

>>61989015
>>61989063
REKT

What should I use for creating a bootable usb drive?
UNetbootin? Rufus?
I'm installing Debian

>>61989190
dd

>>61989190
I created a bootable usb like 3 days ago on Windows, used Rufus and it worked fine.

>>61989190
dd

What is a good distro to start off with, I've heard mint and Ubuntu are good. What do you guys recommend?

>>61989063
Being able to type one word and having your computer predict, accurately, what you want? If you don't want that you have some messed up priorities. Look at the lengths people go to to allow uses to be more productive, interfaces with massive learning curves like blender, dozens of plugins coddling you in your ide. Personally I look forward to being able to program at the speed of thought.

Yaourt fag here.
Lots of people recommend Pacaur over Yaourt, why?

>>61989233
Ubuntu

This might be a stupid question, but is Ubuntu decent for gaming? If not what's a good overall distro that's good for gaming as well

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>to get bit perfect play back, you need to go around Pulse Audio
>make sure your system isn't set up to send ALSA clients directly back to Pulse. Arch, for example, pulls that config in by default with GNOME, MATE, and Cinnamon.
Is that correct?

>>61989307
check the wiki for a comparison chart.
moved recently over to pacaur from yaourt, and it's alright.

>>61989307
Check arch's own wiki page about aur helpers.
The [spoiler] is the chart down the page a ways.

>>61989365
what was that shill's name for that one """gaming""" distro? david or something like that?
anyway the shilled distro was solus, use that if you are to intelligent to get ubuntu running the latest and greatest stuff relevant to """gaming""

>>61989371
>It's alright
Doesn't sound ALL that great to be honest.
Not saying it doesn't do things well, but Yaourt seems to get the job done as well.

>>61989427
well the chart and shilling convinced me enough to move over. functionally it's the same, just switch out the command, and less interaction (y/n, etc)
all in all, should have moved sooner.

What the fuck is source mage?

>>61989456
People recommend Pacaur over Yaourt for security correct? Like, it would check the MAKEPKG file first and make you look at it for any possible discrepancies, if I'm not mistaken.

That could also be done with Yaourt though.
Granted, like you said, there's more interaction but that's the point of installing software as you wouldn't want to install something that would compromise security.

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>tfw just spent an hour reconfiguring minimalist text conky on a new machine because my current config file was from an older version
>tfw also spent 20 minutes copying and troubleshooting a VM to my new machine (turns out I just had to change the audio host driver to get my microphone to work without static)

What do you think is the most important feature in a package manager?

>>61989605
flawless dep handling(im looking at you slack)

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>>61986164
has anyone tried CoreOS?

>>61989605
fast, reliable, easily to query

>>61989553
whatever then man
security isn't my main concern when installing from the AUR

How do I into ricing?

>>61989664
2 cups of water for 1 cup of rice.
>works all everytime

>>61986516
An executive running linux?

>>61989702
anon pls

>>61989631
It should be fampai.
all in all, thanks anyways.

>>61989730
if it were, i wouldn't be using it at all.

>>61989711
*slow clap*

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>start using a complex 20-character password
>every time I have to put in my root password

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTbq8NaQRsU

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>>61989774
Mine is 26.

>>61988524
So archbang is out? Seems the most friendly I've been able to find so far. Trying to decide how much time it's worth investing just to get rid of systemd ha. I've used Ubuntu off and on since like 05 but never really got into really understanding what I was doing in Linux. I've read enough about systemd to know I don't need that many fingers through all my processes.

>>61989865
Use an older Ubuntu that still uses upstart.

>>61989367
You can just not install PulseAudio.

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>>61989774
>>61989845
22 reporting in

>>61989922
Is it installed by default on Ubuntu?

>>61989973
Yes.

cfdisk wont let me mark a partition as bootable.
Should it still work? I want to dual boot with windows.

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This is the best day of my life

>>61989761
Couldn't resist.

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is discord failing to build for anyone else?

>>61990142
gpt/efi doesn't need or use boot flags.

>>61990294
>one or more pgp signatures could not be verified
import the pgp signatures

>>61990331
I did, at least I think I did
I'll try again

>>61990142
Ancient flag doesn't matter to grub anyhow. Just ignore it.

>>61990356
you probably imported the once for discord but you also need the ones for libc++

>>61990294
had to install it for the first time yesterday to talk to a group for class (why not slack i don't know,) but werked for me.

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>tfw I just had a dream in which Stallman and Linus told me that God will forgive me for fapping to shemale porn if I contribute to the GNU project and Linux kernel

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>>61990331
>>61990356
>>61990382
hmm
these are the proper ones for libc++

>>61990331
How does one import the pgp signatures?

>>61990398
It's not a dream. It worked for me.

>>61990411
just install oh-my-pgp from the AUR

>>61990402
thats gpg, but it asked for pgp!

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>>61990445
I'm doing it wrong then?
the post here says to use gpg

Why is everyone installing the same software?
>Arch
>i3wm
>zsh
>poweline
>solarized

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring!

>>61990402
those are the correct keys.
try adding

keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve

to your gpg.conf or try changing the keyserver. You could also modify the pkgbuild to not use gpg verification

>>61990480
because it just werkz
>>61990503
>try adding

keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve

to your gpg.conf
ok
>You could also modify the pkgbuild to not use gpg verification
but that's insecure!

>>61990515
>but that's insecure!
the source files passed the sha256 check so youll probably be fine

>>61990523
people said the same about md5 back in the days

Finally fucking did it. Gentoo has successfully been installed! on to a dm/de/wm...

>>61990556
Congratulations!

>>61990480
Great post. How about you write up some alternatives. Maybe provide some nice webm screencasts to demonstrate why people should bother switching.
No bullying people for being normies they, they will either just get more entrenched or do something stupid and come back for support and get laughed at.

>>61990610
Thank you! It only took one failed attempt thankfully! The first time I didn't set up grub right and was too much of a noob to just fix it in the livecd environment.

Can anyone recommend a decent usb wifi adapter that will work with peppermint OS? I Like Peppermint and don't want to have to switch to another distro, but the only wifi adapter I have that works with it is an old 54mb Cisco one. This one claims to be compatible with several linux versions, is it worth a shot?
>https://www.amazon.com/Panda-300Mbps-Wireless-USB-Adapter/dp/B00EQT0YK2

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>gtk will get filepicker thumbnail preview soon

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>>61990680
sometimes I get a nice filepicker sometimes I don't

>>61990680
I just had a daydream of a distro which is basically Ubuntu but with a patched GTK filepicker and a red theme, called "Linux Strawberry" and it was No.1 on distrowatch.

>>61990656
Look for hardware with Respects Your Freedom certification.

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>>61990680
>>61990709

>>61990656
I don't have your distro. Why don't you check what drivers you have available in your current kernel or external module blobs?

Should be in /proc/config.gz, /boot/config* or such.

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>>61990680
finally?

>>61990731
no

>>61990680
>This bug has closed the 100-comment threshold.
>Please use more suitable channels for general discussion of scalability.
>The file chooser is ridiculously complex.
>I'm pretty sure that, no matter how you change it, people will complain about it. Given that people rant online about every single change anyone makes to it, it's a pretty thankless activity to spend your spare time with.
Looks like the official word is that it is to hard and making excuses is easier.

>updated Arch laptop
>no longer boots

I deserve this, don't I?

>>61990786
That's normal.

Does anyone here use Trisquel?

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>>61990756
gtk filepicker is the ugliest thing on my i3wm desktop

fucking kill me

i wish i could replace it with something actually usable aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>61990793
I used it for a while, but I'm on Debian now.

>>61990790
one time when I updated it forgot to run mkinitcpio or something and that fucked some other thing
not sure if it's that but try booting a livecd and chrooting

>>61990809
meant for
>>61990786

>>61990809
I'm pretty sure I have the same problem as this guy.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=228693

>>61990808
any particular reason you switched? The idea sounds great, but I don't see many using it.

>>61990656
Yeah all the comments are positive and says it works with the mainline drivers. Dunno if it needs to install the non-free firmware but if it does their user manual for compiling the driver for older kernels mentions a ralink chipset so that'll be the firmware to install from your package manager if it doesn't work out of the box.

>>61990680
> Filepicker pasta (GTK2 only!):

Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/

Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview

Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/

Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/49c1d0eea4b64f24c4c7

Shitposting:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154&

>>61990801
Like drag and drop from your file manager?

>>61990863
>This bug has closed the 100-comment threshold.
does this mean that any popular bug gets closes when too many people request a feature?

>>61990863
this is so fucking stupid, now i understand why everyone thinks Gnome is a fucking meme

>>61990926
I don't think it's closed (but not being worked on either). They just don't want people to be shitting up their bugtracer with +1s.

I want to install Ubuntu, but want to keep my Windows. Is this guide good? Any other tips?

https://www.tecmint.com/install-ubuntu-16-04-alongside-with-windows-10-or-8-in-dual-boot/

>>61989625
Thats 3 things

Whats the difference between Debian and Ubuntu minimal?

>>61991074
Sorry, it was early.

Anyone have problems with firefox on arch? No matter what I use if its nightly, waterfox or palemoon they all suffer from memory leaks. I have to either close the browser every hour or so or click on the garbage collection process in about:memory

>>61991139
Cant reproduce

>>61991036
That looks pretty comprehensive. People sometimes complain about wifi not working in the installer but I guess they avoided that by not choosing to install updates and third party stuff so no network needed.

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>>61990801
>>61990874
Sounds kind of crazy to do on a tiling wm but I actually do this in i3. You can switch to another workspace and grab something and drop it in another workspace.

>fullscreen browser on workspace 1
>fullscreen file manager of workspace 2
>want to drop a file in browser
>alt+2
>grab file
>alt+1
>drop it

It's actually a pretty nice function to be quite honest

>>61991274
>go to my fm which is already open
>click file
>drag file to 4chan
>it done
You retard tilers are deluding your self so hard

On my thinkpad t450 running xubuntu trying to fix one problem (touchpad randomly stop working), I updated my system. Now my keyboard doesn't work.

Luckily the touchpad does work, and I managed to get into grub (the keyboard works here, and in BIOS) and tried to boot the older kernel (4.10.0-30), but the keyboard didn't work here either.

I can login and start up a terminal session, and enter commands using the built-in onscreen keyboard.
I just tried

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

but predictably that didn't do anything (0 upgraded, installed, or removed) as I had probably just done that before keyboard stopped working.
What do I do here?

I don't have any external keyboards to try with.

>>61991301
You posted exactly the same workflow you mong.

>>61991301
unless your browser isn't fullscreen and you have both it and a file manager visible on screen you have to move your mouse and click to expose your file manager.

>>61991301
This basically. Retard float niggers have a hard time comprehending DEs that aren't just like windows or mac.

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>>61990680
Is this real life?

>>61991453
Who dosent have multiple screens in the current year?

>>61991453
Oh wait you tilers use 1368x768 dont you?

>>61991477
friendly thread
You are just being pointlessly inflammatory by lumping anyone you don't like into one group and then making ignorant assumptions about them.

>>61991477
>Who dosent have multiple screens in the current year?
People who aren't power hungry morons.

>Oh wait you tilers use 1368x768 dont you?
*1366x768

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>>61991502

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I have made a ton of progress on my dwm setup
I just need to figure out how patching works so I can get scrollback in st (and figure out how to change fonts/colors in it) then work out my volume keybinds and suspend on close

I am very happy

>>61991201
Yeah we know that but he asked about his browser.

>>61991532
git apply mypatch
make

>>61987997

aptitude search -F %p '~i!~M'

should work on ubuntu too.

>Simultaneously follow 3 different guides on installing Arch with full disk encryption using LVM on LUKS
>Follow the instructions to the end and reboot, removing the installation media
>My laptop starts up, briefly shows "GRUB LOADING" and then reboots
>Continues to do this and reboot repeatedly until I turn it off
>I start the installation again and retrace my steps
>It does it again
Fuck me. I don't even know how to diagnose the problem.

>>61991927
>Simultaneously follow 3 different guides
were they all different and you mixed and matched commands between them? No wonder shit got broke.

>>61991927
pebkac

>>61991927
You didnt:
Setup crypttab
Install a boot loader
Edit the bootlaoder to point to your encrypted and unencrpyted mount points

>>61991363
I think I fixed it, I just did

sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all

, rebooted and now got my keyboard working.

>>61991927
I bet you forgot an unencrypted /boot partition.

>>61991927
>full disk encryption
What covert ops / illegal activity are you up to where you think you need FDE instead of just an encrypted $HOME and cryptswap?

>>61992807
Dosent matter. My privacy is mine alone
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument

>>61992807
Not him, but anyone storing HIPAA or PCI data on a laptop needs full disk encryption for compliance purposes. I need that for work.

>>61992869
Cool, what hospital do you work at where you get to install Arch on your corporate issued pc?

>>61992894
My employer sells backup software to a bunch of HIPAA-regulated folks and all company issue systems (including my Thinkpad P50 running Arch) need FDE.

:^)

How do i setup keyboard alt codes?

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>>61986164
Friendly reminder that PCLinuxOS is the best choice for newbies https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=pclinuxos

And is systemd-free

>>61990770
It would be easier to use at this point if they just launched a console and had you tab complete to the file you want.

>>61993063
You could use a char map or something but no other operating system uses the same encoding as windows so the alt codes that you are familiar with from windows would lead to different characters. You may want to look into setting up the compose key which is better anyway:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_configuration_in_Xorg#Configuring_compose_key

>>61986613
Hello fellow wizard

Whats a better DE, MATE or XFCE?

I'm having an issue with SDDM, my cursor isnt showing up. Are there hotkeys I can use to get into my DE so I can fix it? I'm aware of ctrl+alt+f2 but I don't know where the config file is so I cant edit it yet through the terminal (unless someone tells me where it should be). After some searching it seems the issue could be caused by the default cursor theme but like I said, I don't know where the config file is. Advice?

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>about:config
>ui.allow_platform_file_picker = false
lol, might as well just use this filepicker instead, at least it doesn't have the retarded search feature, or the single-click selected items feature.

If the gnome devs refuse to give us thumbnails, maybe we should be asking mozilla to add thumbs to this filepicker instead?

asked in sqt but I'll ask here too. anyone have any experience with a filemanager called fman? is it any good?

>>61993895
I find it bizarre this still exists, people were bitching about it 10 fucking years ago.

>>61994061
Who would have guessed that we would actually have regressed from that point?

The only thing the GTK3 filepicker has over this one is you can at least see a single thumbnail of the current file selected.
GTK2 is better than both, but 3 is absolute garbage.

Been using KDE Neon on my desktop, but I think I wanna try something else. Any suggestions?

>>61995211
i3

What happened to the CloverOS threads? I haven't seen them for a couple of days.

>>61989865
>>61989914
This, Ubuntu 14.04 is still supported until 2019. But if you want your Debian-based OS without systemd then go Devuan

Why does KDE neon keep opening shit on my other monitor?

>>61995283
literally who?

>>61995256
I meant a distro.

>>61986516
Bumping poll for answers

>>61995459
Haven't used either in years.

>>61990294
>>61990402

>babby thinks it's his program that's failing to build
>clearly says what the problem is
>doesn't know how to read the documenation which exactly says how to handle such situations
>using methods of installation he doesn't know how they work

Typical Arch user. Let me guess, you installed it with Manjaro and you use zsh?

>>61990653

Wow ur such a hacker accomplishing a feat no one before you has accomplished. What an accomplishment, you should be really proud for using software other people wrote. Your contribution to it was immense!

Stop posting you idiot.

>>61995472
They are both pretty good these days tbfh. The memory usage of KDE in neon is on par with Xubuntu, or even Lubuntu. Crazy I know.

>>61990801

The file dialog can look exactly the same as any other (GTK) program, you retard. You're an idiot who falls for memes and then spreads them. You think that i3 or any "just WM" setup are special. They aren't and a window manager has no influence how a program and its widgets will look like.

>>61990926

It's a issue tracker. Not a social network where you just complain, nor is it a support channel where you can discuss things (IRC, forum, mailing list).
But obviously people like you are retards that don't have basic internet knowledge and you think every website on the internet is your 4chan where you can just be retarded and that people will tolerate it.

>>61991084

One is Debian, the other the minimal installer for Ubuntu.

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hello /g/

I recently installed raspbian on my raspberry pi and (thought I had) set everything up over ssh to use it as a samba fileserver. But when I try to access the share, I get pic related error. I can view my files in the file browser in bash when I ssh into the box. I'm pretty sure I've pointed smb.conf to the right directory, what gives? it must be something obvious

>>61995566
>Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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Better version.

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>>61990680
?

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>>61995572
>>61995566

Hi there, I see you're being rather unfriendly. I'd like to remind you that this is the Friendly GNU/Linux Thread, and that such behavior is unacceptable. The prevalence of GNU/Linux systems among consumers for desktop use is growing every day, and it takes positivity, support, and a little hard work to introduce the GNU/Linux operating system to all of those who wish to take pleasure in the GNU/Linux experience. So please, think twice before you post. Sometimes, a little positive reinforcement is all it takes to teach and learn!

>>61993940

>install it
>see for yourself in 10 minutes

But no, you chose the
>ask subjective question
>wait days to get an answer

>>61995572
holy shit dude, calm the fuck down >>61995670
Are you faggots personally offended by new users or something?

You're the ones who need to fuck off.

>>61995686
Should be memory usage

>>61995708
Oh fuck you, you thinskinned redfugee , do you even know how Linux culture has always been, fuck off back to your hugbox and talk about mansplaining with your fellow cucks

>>61986164
Is there a noticeable difference in terms of security or usability if I replace systemd with OpenRC? Currently I'm using Debian stretch and LUKS

>>61995652
Erm, there are many issue trackers where discussions about how the issue in question are discussed. I hope you enjoyed you five minutes of elitist glow.

>>61995664
a-anybody?

>>61995729
Nope. It's still you who needs to fuck off.

>do you even know how Linux culture has always been
Yeah, and I also happen to know that it has absolutely no relevance to 4chan.

All you elitists here are just edgy kids trying to mimic the perceived "elitism" from tech sites. They have actual _reasons_ to be the way they are. Not just to be a dick to some random person who's happy they installed Gentoo. If you weren't that happy the first time you installed a source based distro then that alone makes you a massive wanglord and I have no respect for you.

I mean, at least be funny about it. There's nothing wrong with being a dick to someone on 4chan.
But your post is actually dripping with actual tryhardness, like you're trying to modify behavior on the internet. So yeah, please fuck off. We don't need you here.

>>61995694
>GNU/Linux systems among consumers for desktop use is growing every day
Android doesn't count, Peter. Stick to playing drums.

>>61986301
I'm still pissy over that Manjaro-openrc thing. One of the great things about manjaro was that it didn't require you to spend autistically long hours at night in order for you to have all your drivers, literally the only operating system to do that. The only driver i needed to install was the wacom stuff, and even that was a easy endeavor. But instead of porting over that ease-of-use, they decide to go with base arch, which, if you wanted to install base arch, you'd probably know how to change the startup manager outright anyway, which makes this fork pointless e-peen garbage. Why the fuck would they do this aside from some shitty neofetch boasting?

>>61995765

There's a difference between talking about how to fix the issue and 100 posts of "lol dis 10 years old lol".

>>61995771
>actually dripping with actual tryhardness
(>.<)

>>61995778

>he thinks manjaro is special in terms of drivers

>doesn't know that every distribution has pretty much the same kernel
>doesn't know that every distribution packages pretty much the same drivers

Just because you don't know how to install packages, doesn't mean your shitty little downstream distribution is special.

>>61995799
newfag confirmed
please fuck off

>>61995787
If you had looked at the tracker conversation had just started up again recently and someone on who had been working on the issue was posting about the issues involved and other people were weighing in talking about alternatives.

>>61995803
oh fuck off, i remember i had go out of my way to install both the wifi drivers and usb drivers for my old Debian run,

>>61995808
Sorry,you caught me. My mom's boyfriend just bought me a surface yesterday. Is there a guide of how to use this site properly?

>>61995833
>>61986164

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>>61995829

>uses a distribution which only includes free software by default
>complains that he had to install his proprietary drivers

>usb drivers

How do you live your daily life?

>>61995818

Those make up 10% of the comments. The rest is "wow this is 10 years old, when will this be fixed?".

>>61995776
>Android
>GNU/Linux
>desktop
Food for thought, though. I was looking up statistics and sure, market share of GNU/Linux is low, but it has doubled in the past decade. Double of not a lot is still not a lot, but looking at how many more PCs there are in the compared to ten years ago, a liberal estimate could say over 50 million people use GNU/Linux today. Also interesting, some charts I looked at, it spiked up around when Microsoft automatically upgraded people to Windows 10. So Microsoft's idiocy does have an effect.

Source - me being bored at work a few days ago and looking up statistics

>>61995778
You're being absurd. First, like Manjaro, Artix is going to be using Calamares for installation, or so I've heard. Second, installing Pamac isn't difficult at all. It's going to be fine.

i installed arch linux and downloaded firefox and it only loads certain websites. can't find consistent information on how to fix it so i'm going to fucking reinstall i guess.

>>61995983
Fix your DNS servers maybe

Hey /g/ents need your help. I tried to install void x64 musl on both virtualbox and actual hardware and i'm getting the same problem on both:
>install xorg(meta)
>install dwm
>dwm -> dwm:cannot open display
>exec dwm -> dwm:cannot open display + exiting session
>tried i3 same shit
startx starts only when twm is used, but as soon as i add dwm(i3) or exec dwm(i3) line to xinitrc it simple hangs with black screen, after that i can't switch to another tty and ctrl+alt+sysrq+k causes kernel panic (on virtualbox it doesn't even do anyting).

Is Linux Mint too different from Raspbian?
I need to set up a LAMP server + Wordpress on a Raspberry but I don't have one at hand right now.
I do have a Linux Mint install I could use though.
I assume the process won't be too different considering both are Debian based.

>>61996010
void is source based right? Is it possible you either forgot to install video drivers, or you built your video drivers prior to building/installing a new kernel?
If so just rebuild the video driver. You need to rebuild drivers after installing a new kernel

>>61996010
do you have your gtk-greeter installed?

>>61996037

He didn't mention using LightDM anywhere.

>>61996025
>I assume the process won't be too different considering both are Debian based.

this. Any GLAMP tutorial that works for recent debian should work with mint or raspbian.

>>61996025
Youll be good, bruv. <3

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>>61996034
I guess it's not source based, it's like arch without systemd, drivers on pic and i didn't build any kernels.
>>61996037
nope

>>61996074
I don't know, but I'd look into possible issues with video driver installation/configuration, see if there's documentation for it in void and that you didn't skip anything.
Other than that it might just be time to ask on a more knowledgeable site

>>61996074
Which driver is xorg using?
>>61996151
>documentation
>void
XD

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>>61996168
Vesa i guess ?

>>61996214
Post output of lspci -vnn | grep VGA

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>>61996214
Actually i'm retatrded and it's VBox driver

>>61996265
>>61996214
>>61996248
Ok installed normal void instead of musl and now everything works. So they have broken musl installation out of the box ? lol

Void Linux good as a daily driver?

>>61996655
Ubuntu

>1 day ago
>hey /g/ what is a good distro for a newfag?
>Ubuntu!

>today
>Ubuntu SUCKS install Arch or at least Debian!
Make up your mind >_<

>>61996655
yes tell your friends

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I've had someone access my machine remotely for the past 3 weeks.
Checked up on my Total Network Monitor to find this little leech in my system from coderanger.net
Looking to install a Linux distro with GUI, so the girlfriend can use the computer, & I need it to be compatible with AMD cards for mining alt-coin. Any help would be appreciated

>>61997031
Doesn't make me feel like an autistic /g/tard

>>61989190
https://etcher.io

>>61997066
/g/ (generally) hates Ubuntu partly BECAUSE it's for newfags, hence "Noobuntu".

>>61997400
I haven't heard many people seriously shit on boonto here. I think you're confusing general 4chan banter with 'hate'.

>>61986164

I need to install linux on a machine with a 1080 and no gpu on the cpu. Debian stretch specifically. This will not likely work out of the box as the drivers are not free. How can I get the driver I need into the installation file? Do I need figure out how to build my own kernel or what? I have other machines, laptops that work out of the box with major linux distros that I can build with.

>>61997700
you install the distro as usual then deal with 1024x768 till you install the nvidia drivers.

make new_thread -j1

>>61997714

Will that work? Last time I tried this with a ubuntu/gnome distro noveu or whatever the open one is called just locked the system up I couldnt even boot a live cd. Should I install without the live cd ive always used those for convenience.

>>61997731

Not the same machine and it was a different generation of gpu but noveu just said it didnt recogonize chip and couldnt get passed it.

Ill just try to the debian installation image. The current Debian release is stretch right that was just the working name?

>>61997731
It should.
Problems might rise if the libre nouveau driver tries to operate an unsupported card, this can be avoided by editing your OS menu item in grub and adding 'nomodeset' to the end of the line starting with 'linux'

>>61997753

thx

GNU/Thread: >>61997777

>>61996655

No, Void is more of a fortnightly driver. Not sure about the currently best daily driver, but if you want a 3rd day driver, go for Tanglu Linux. For a 7th day driver look into either ConnochaetOS or Linux Mangaka.

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>>61995385
CLOVER OS