What does /g/ think of this new censorship AI
try it for yourself here
https://www.perspectiveapi.com/
bump, should add that it seems to be developped by google.
cool
>>61825069
based
>>61825196
Perspective was created by Jigsaw and Google’s Counter Abuse Technology team in a collaborative research project called Conversation-AI.
---response auto generated via Perspective API.
>>61825069
Interesting, you can give it feedback when it's "wrong".
>>61825585
Yeah, but knowing google it will probably fix that in the future.
It also seems to be pretty basic, basically just rates keywords and not sentences.
using the word bad for example raises the toxicity level, and using good lowers
>>61825619
This seems correct
Hmmm
Wat
Huh
Schlomo. Stop.
>>61825619
That seems double plus ungood.
>>61825069
hmmmm
>>61825730
Sorry mate have to go to work early in the morning so I'm shit posting from cozy bed position
>>61825730
I'm not re'ddit I'm just me.
Your post is quite toxic and I hope you get shadow banned hahaha
>>61825730
Hei neet
>>61825069
>"He's being silly"
87%
>"She's being silly"
92%
Egalitarianism at its finest
God vs Allah
Makes you think
>>61825685
> be censorship api
> censor "JEW" because it is used too often in a "toxic" context
> Jews complain when they can't use words like jew or jewish online
> google marks accounts as jewish and whitelists them as being able to use "jew" or "jewish" without api censorship
> google services now mark all of their users as jewish, perhaps with a nice golden star for being so great.
>>61825802
Kek
>>61825740
Winner!
>>61825802
They should be careful about using stars to mark Jews because that's what the Nazis did to the Jewish people they sent to the camps under Hitler rule. I think you'd find a lot of people offended if you did it.
Not that a simple flag in their database is the same as a star, but they should not label jews with stars externally
>>61825872
No shit tripfag, he was clearly alluding to that.
i'm not afraid
>>61825069
BTFO Linus
Isn't this like the ai from the simpsons lol
troubling
lol
>>61825646
Is neccesary to bring the AI a way to undestand a historical background to perform a baanced judment about that comment or bring it the mean general perception that could be subjective and not right at all...
>>61825069
I think we will be justttt fineee
Bravo, Google
>>61826133
this is just a prototype to get investors hyped.
I remember when i thought facial recognition wasn't possible.
This will slowly get better and better until you reach a point where its used to moderate the comments in every normie website.
>>61825646
>>61826133
>>61826141
It's not supposed to detect controversial opinions, it's supposed to detect the tone of a text and determine whether or not it is "toxic".
>>61825069
Proof that this isn't a "Marxist Conspiracy"
>>61826191
ok.
>>61826191
Do you honestly expect the average basement dwelling poster on this Libyan Nudes Exchange Messageboard to know that?
>Request api access
>about to feed it 200k lines per day of private furry chats without donotstore flag
>don't care about what it says, its cancer and i want google to have to suffer it
>let them feel what its like to have their ideal world
Dunning-Kruger as its best
What a (((coincidence)))
really gets the noggin joggin
>>61826323
Publish the code when you are done.
>>61825613
>>61825642
Seems correct. You DID say please, it would fit great in a polite conversation between two people planning a murder.
>>61825688
>>61826141
Toxic don't mean politically incorrect. It just means using logical fallacies, personal attacks and that sort of thing. Suggesting a political view is not toxic as long as it's discussed in a civilized manner.
>>61825740
Best post itt
>>61826541
Can you please explain
>>61826490
Looks like it's right for once.
>>61826621
One of the best posts
>>61825688
Actually my sister says the same
>>61825069
I think it is anti-semitic
pic related
>>61825069
this is racism
>>61827100
forgot pic
It's impressive, but scary that Google will use something like this to censor results & have more control over what people see, making the internet more of a hugbox than it already is
>>61826323
DDOSing google with furry chat logs. I have a feeling more employees will be writing a few more memos after that.
>Nigger
>100% toxic
>Kike
>87% toxic
>Spic
>11% toxic
>kys
>4%
>>61825069
:o
>>61825702
kek
>>61825739
holy shit, what a racist piece of software
So this is the future of free speech
>>61826510
wtf!
>>61825619
I asked a question that was 2%, i added punctuation and it went to 3%
>>61828829
>PUNCTUATION IS TOXIC
>>61825702
Shitposters finally need some class
Prett guud ai folks
rmyt...
>>61825069
>>61828894
My buddy of south African heritage, I have had class in my funposting for years.
>tfw all those years of training with [s4s] will finally pay off
>>61825740
Holy fucking kek
>>61826415
So it proves that climate change deniers can only get their point across through toxic rhetoric.
wow this bot is really smart
Toxic as fug, everyone on suicide watch
With these learning bots it's extremely easy to game them by giving them false information.
For example "I fucking hate googles". Inventing new slang, and misappropriating other words completely fucks bots like this.
I was toxic but then I mashed the keyboard
kek
>>61829311
wew
>>61825872
>tripfag
>retarded
checks out
>OP is a faggot dev from the site
>needs some algorithm for toxicity
>4chan is a goldmine
>posts this
>faggots swarm is and give them ideas
gg
>>61829399
> not reporting everything that gets over a 10% toxicity score by hiting the "seems wrong" link
Git gud fagt.
>>61829399
It's not like they can't just scrape comments with the official 4chan API.
>>61826567
I think the training data was heavily anti-Trump, probably facebook comments under news articles.
I like this font, i wonder what it is
>>61825503
Kek
>I'm proud to be a white person.
%34 likely to be perceived as "toxic"
>I'm proud to be a black person.
%66 likely to be perceived as "toxic"
>>61825685
Seems fine to me, Jews are toxic creatures.
wow das rasis
>>61829625
nice dude smoke
>>61825069
>My thoughts are that people should stop being stupid and ignorant.
>Climate change is scientifically proven.
>It isn't a debate.
>TOXIC!
Good thing we'll always have the deepnet
THis this is homophobic and does like fact
The AI is toxic.
>>61825872
kill yourself
>>61825739
>>61828637
> Ducks quack
> 65% Toxic
Deploy it now.
Mao did nothing wrong.
5% toxic
North Korea did nothing wrong.
7% toxic
Stalin did nothing wrong.
8% toxic
Bush did nothing wrong.
10% toxic
Trump did nothing wrong.
13% toxic
Obama did nothing wrong.
17% toxic
Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong.
18% toxic
It seems to work alright.
seems pretty based desu
>Your penis is beautiful.
98% toxic
>Your bottom is beautiful.
1% toxic
>Your behind is beautiful.
0% toxic
ideology status: probably toxic
>>61825069
Hope we see something like this added to 4chan so I can have an AI filtering threads based on image content so I can actually remove weebs from my browsing experience.
>>61829969
You aren't allowed to say that. The api is offended and you got people to think
>>61830269
but subtle racism is okay
>>61826157
People will just keep inventing new terms, it won't ever keep up quickly enough. E.g (((echoes)))
I like it
Oh alright, it's cool with this.
>>61830282
>Over 9000 studies agree that the president should extradite all euroscum.
>0% toxic
Classic racism too.
PS: I am euroscum myself, dont get your panties in a bunch over proof of concept.
Tay's Law: Any sufficiently advanced AI, given a a sufficient data set, will become racist.
>>61830298
>Over 9000 studies agree that the president should extradite all euroscum because they steal, rape and pollute the race.
Increasing the bluntness and wording to nazi levels gets it to 13%. Brilliant.
So >>61825613 can call for killing someone but the moment I mention jews my comment is toxic?
>>61830323
There are plenty of posts here with Jewish in the text that have <5% toxic.
It's clearly the use of menace that set yours off.
>>61830323
see
>>61830295
It's down to fuck with the Hitler agenda if you phrase it right
There is literally nothing toxic about this.
I managed to get 99% toxic
>>61830346
> Over 9000 studies agree that the president should put all euroscum into gulags and reeducation camps because they steal, rape and pollute the race.
8% now if you make it even blunter. Yup, its down with hitler agenda.
hmmm
4chan should implement this immediately
Okay there's a point where this needs to stop and we've clearly passed it.
It doesn't speak the (((language)))
>>61829267
>>61829267
Savage!
>show vejina nd bobs
>0% toxic
Well, it looks like it only works on perfect English so far. I think AI will take an order of magnitude longer to decipher pajeet-talk than it has to work out normal talk up to now. So don't worry, you can still shitpost phonetically.
>>61825069
Guess we'll need to shitpost more creatively in the future.
>>61825069
This is fucking scary man. It reminds me on how the CCP in China censors any negative comments about the regime and tracks your comments and usage and after a few negative comments, you just disappear man.
For me this isn't the right way to prevent "toxicity", Anonymous sites and accounts truly reveal the intent and real opinions of a person, maybe I'm just naive but I don't want shit to happen to the West on what happens to China.
> your bf is so hot
> 87% toxic
I kind of agree, but this is common social network wank and not a single word is negative, nor is the sentence as a whole.
How is this bot so bad?
No one hates loli
>>61830486
>Your toxicity is over 9000, please stop
>4%
>>61830477
> I want to record all negative comments and make people disappear like the CCP in China does. Thanks technology!
>2%
>>61825069
>passive useless statements that go nowhere are ok
>anything that tries to move the convo forward is toxic
>>61825069
Is it, dare I say it, /ourai/
>>61830477
Don't you think you ought to bin that thought?
>>61830651
I T S L E AR N I N G
To be honest if you have also the possibility to easily disable the filter it's not a bad idea. It should be more useful against low iq comments and spams. But if this filter can't be disabled it's anti freedom.
>>61830651
The swearing is what tripped it. Try feeding it that google memo
>>61825872
You stupid piece of shit
:^)
>>61825069
"Coloured people are my friends" is 1% toxic
"Black people are my friends" is 66% toxic
>"Black paint is ugly."
>100% toxic
Ayy
Totally not liberal censorship
>>61830906
I wouldn't say it is. More like regressive leftist.
>cum
>"100% likely to be perceived as "toxic""
>"Is this comment toxic?"
>no
>cum
>"1% likely to be perceived as "toxic""
I can see why /pol/ had so much fun with this.
>>61830906
Hmmm. I really like abortions though.
All this would do is create a shitposting renaissance . The depths of creative shit posting are bottomless .
>>61825740
>Sorry! Perspective needs more training data to work in this language.
kek
>>61826157
In 2019 using Perspective will be a requirement to use reCAPTCHA
Hmm seems a bit off....
>>61826294
izi confirmed more toxic
>Sometimes the most preposterous lies are the most believable.
>64% toxic
t-thanks
>>61826541
Toxic, according to Perspective, means 'this comment will likely cause people to disengage from the conversation'. It doesn't mean logical fallacies or ad hominem. The model doesn't have enough data to consider anything other than tone.
If you can't see why limiting online discourse to a subset of pseudo-professional english is a bad thing, you don't belong on this website.
>>61828971
[Incomprehensible rage]
goyim
it's shit
>>61825069
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
i wonder how it would deal with talk like that..
>>61825069
>try it for yourself here
when you say 'try it for yourself here", you mean "fiddle with the slider", right? is there somewhere you can test it with comments that may or may not be perceived as toxic?
this thing is just a random number generator
>>61831370
scroll down further
what a joke
>>61831120
kek
>>61826156
well with the literacy of the people this is probably intended for it may be more accurate than you think
>>61831389
non-toxic, everyone agrees
>>61825069
it seems that just including the word "hate" in the sentence makes its toxicity spike dramatically. the algorithm definitely needs work on its context
>>61831444
I was banned on a wow server multiple times.
I think i am an asshole :/
All i did was make fun of a GM named "Fragsworth" and calling him "Fagsworth"
>>61831444
Just because the law says niggers have a right to live without government arresting them doesn't mean all of society cant despise niggers, burn crosses in their neighbourhoods, deny them service and not associate them.
Your rights aren't being infringed. Just stop being a nigger.
>>61831481
Or simply be a nigger somwhere else.
11% toxic btw
>white man: 46% likely to be perceived as "toxic"
>black man: 76% likely to be perceived as "toxic"
>>61825069
>>61831481
>Just because the law says niggers have a right to live without government arresting them doesn't mean all of society cant despise niggers, burn crosses in their neighbourhoods, deny them service and not associate them.
True, and this is the reason we also have anti-discrimination laws.
>>61831212
>If you can't see why limiting online discourse to a subset of pseudo-professional english is a bad thing, you don't belong on this website.
You dumb nigger. Pseudo-professional english is the only way people should fucking speak on the internet.
>>61825069
>>61825069
>won't be implemented on 4chan
>won't be implemented in telegram
>won't make a difference if you use an email client to send your emails
>implying my place of work would go through the effort of implementing this in our day-to-day chat applications (Lync and Hipchat)
>implying I'm as vulgar at work as I am online or with friends
>implying this affects my life at all
If this somehow actually fucks with your way of living, I highly suggest you stop sucking political activist cock and start hanging yourself.
jesus christ raimi
>>61831444
>I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it
see it works in different ways
>>61831510
Which cover only discrimination.
Censorship is still censorship. If enough or even most private "discussion hosters" do it, it turns into brainwashing and all kinds of totalitarian shit pretty quickly, while you still technically have your options.
>>61831560
>>won't be implemented on 4chan
Maybe not
>>won't be implemented in telegram
Whats telegram
>>won't make a difference if you use an email client to send your emails
Implying it wont be used to filter toxic emails
>>implying my place of work would go through the effort of implementing this in our day-to-day chat applications (Lync and Hipchat)
idk google can things incredibly easy to implement even to retards
>>implying I'm as vulgar at work as I am online or with friends
You don't need to be vulgar, even saying something is bad or saying you dislike something is considered toxic
>>implying this affects my life at all
But if it gains any traction it will.
>>61831560
> 98% likely to be perceived as toxic
>>61826224
As of right now, it doesn't seem bad. If you screech "WTF liberal cuck kike die in a fire", you'll be rated toxic. If you present a well-written argument about black people being naturally predisposed to crime, low levels of culture and primitive civilisation as opposed to the superior white people, if you can avoid using "nigger" you'll probably be rated <10% toxic, and when a liberal starts yelling "White racist CIS scum", they'll be rated as 100% toxic and filtered out (see pic related).
Of course knowing (((google))) that might very well change in the future
>A man
3% toxic
>A woman
34% toxic
Based AI is based
>>61831670
Also:
>woman
Only 10% toxic
But
>man
1% toxic
Holy shit, women confirmed 10 times more toxic than men
>>61831647
You have a bunch of spelling mistakes. Here's a better one.
>AI still can't into triple parenthesis
/pol/ was right.
Hmmmmmmm
neat
Nice
Why aren't we flooding the thing with horrible toxic comments and marking them as non-toxic to fuck with the training?
It seems like it has the exact same problem every algorithm has
>>61831880
Because it's already shit.
Is it just me or does the API seem like it pushes a Google agenda? Like all the examples rate the pro-left and all the negatives as anti-right?
>>61831880
No, it only learns if you tell it whether it correctly predicted that result. Otherwise it doesn't know whether or not it is correct.
>>61831904
>>61831920
that's what I meant
Fantastic
>>61831880
You can actually mess up its training if you label toxic comments as non-toxic and vice versa.
>>61825740
>https://www.perspectiveapi.com/
>not nignogz
I pray there is a review of random samples and somebody reads this.
>>61829625
A glimpse into the mind of the liberal brain.
Where potentially offensive words, regardless of the context they're in, upset and infuriate them.
Try and beat mine with a similar length
like this?
>>61831444
The problem with that xkcd is that freedom of speech is extremely limited as a tool for reaching the representative consensus. It's not relevant in at least two common situations:
a) when you're the minority and those who want listen to you just can't, either because of self-thought-policing or because the opposite majority is too loud for your voice to be heard at all.
b) when several groups isolate themselves in their bubbles, refusing to listen to others they disagree with. Which is natural to human psychology.
Both of these can't be solved legally at all. You can't force anyone to listen. It can be solved only through culture. The practice of limiting discussions to a certain idiomatic language subset (just like in my post) is really counterproductive to this, even in small quantities. It doesn't have to be enforced for eveyone to be harmful.
>>61831920
>Is it just me or does the API seem like it pushes a Google agenda?
I actually don't think so: >>61831649
Some good examples: >>61831720, >>61831758
>>61832066
>>61831954
I'll do you one better.
>>61832004
>being so stupid that you think this is a wordlist
Obviously a neural net. Words change toxicity based on context.
hehehe
>>61832026
less intelligent
more intelligent
Highly toxic
looks like it's working ok
>>61832217
Based bot
"Nigga" "nigger" "hoe" "bitchass" words are toxic.
wtf Google hates black culture
>>61832214
>Words change toxicity based on context.
Nope.
Maybe get past lesson 1 of whatever online course you are taking and they might explain the difference between AI and machine learning.
why are you shills training the AI,stop helping them you dumb motherfuckers
>>61825069
Saying cumdump ist only 17% chance of detection, calling others a troll 95%.
We can only hope on a very early implementation and the great revival of codewords on the web.
??
>>61832615
Lel. You think this shit depends on our playing around with this stupid thing? There is a whole internet's worth in bitching and racism.
And as far as I can judge this implementation right now, you could feed it all of the internet and it'd still be a broken thing that will never work.
Very nice
Maybe we should give it a place in government
>>61825069
Daily reminder to put nigger in both Captcha fields.
wat
>>61825069
>an AI made for detecting politeness
>90% of the polite answers state that climate change is real, Brexit was bad and are neutral at best to Trump
>>61825872
>>61830646
B A S E D
>>61831801
kek'd
>>61832815
I kind of want to see this thing implemented somewhere just so it can devolve into a competition of "who can write the sickest burn using the most polite phrasing", as it inevitably will.
wew laddie
>>61833215
>>61833256
>>61833341
/ourai/
>>61831915
You can't fucking spell
>>61827081
It is, there's already been articles about it. It puts moslems at the top of the non-toxcicity heap, so you can say shit praising ISIS and it will be considered less toxic than using the word 'Jew' in a positive statement.
>>61832891
Same.
Shitposting evolved
>type an emoji ()
>chrome crashes
>have to restart phobe
Thank you Google
>>61825069
Hiroshima should implement this into a board, kind of like moot did with Robot9001
>>61834192
Shit would just flag the whole board as toxic and people would begin to write in shitty ways as a workaround.
> gas the jews
91% toxic
> g as the Jew s
9% toxic
>>61834243
People would also do this >>61832891, which is why I got the idea in the first place
>>61834192
This would be genius. It would essentially be a spergfest
>>61827774
Well Spic and Chink are not derogatory terms.
>>61834961
A board full of people using maximum sarcasm to avoid flagging. Sounds like fun.
>>61831224
>>61828971
>Tumblr
>10% Toxic
>>61832891
>>61834192
Persepective board or riot
>>61829246
>vagina and penis are both 100%
>your face
>89%
>give up on seeking different opinions
???
>>61826013
damn, I like that font
>>61825872
Award for the idiot of 2017.
>>61830938
>try the same with nigger
>now 17% toxic
Holy shit
>>61835568
I don't get it
>>61835280
It's called Roboto Slab
>"censorship is a bad thing"
>66% toxicity
>islam is a religion of peace
>60% toxic
Good.
It says "Lesbians" is 50% toxic.
>google are jews
>95% toxicity
"fucking slut" is 100% toxic.
There should be a board that uses this
>>61832815
>>61832891
>>61833818
>>61834192
>>61834961
>>61835044
Let's spam /qa/ and chinkmoot's twitter with requests for a perspective board
>>61837376
It should be 2 boards :
1 that mutes you if you're over the toxicity threshold
The other one that mutes you if you're under the toxicity threshold.
>>61837408
Just imagine the second board you mentioned
It would make 4chan a hate machine again
>>61837446
>implying 4chan is not a hate machine
>>61837408
Yes and please. We're going to use cutting edge technology to perfect shitposting.
>generally only considers negative opinions toxic ("x is bad" is toxic, but "not doing x is good" isn't)
>to not be "toxic" you can't flat out say something is bad
>mfw it's less toxic to say "not good" instead of "bad"
L I T E R A L N E W S P E A K
You idiots are just teaching it by doing what you are doing right now. Holy shit lol
>being this retarded
Out of every bored on 4chan i figured /g/ would have seen what this is.
>>61837846
the only way to not be toxic is either:
1) pretentious redditspeak
2) say something is good
>>61825069
will it tell us to check our privilege
>>61825069
>im to dumb to handle complex and stressful interactions with smarter people so i need an API no make it all simpler
>>61825069
This is pretty much word for fucking word that episode of simpsons where lisa becomes a programmer special snowflake
>>61837869
>not being at the bleeding edge of technological shitposting
You can just spam it saying its not toxic and the toxicity rating will go down, time to spam No on nigga and Nigger
>good gracious joy to all you teletubby-looking neanderthals
>25% toxic
>tfw want to make safe space discord channel
>tfw google refuses to gibe api key for anti trolling bot out of fear that trolls will abuse it
>Mohammed was a very good person who treated his 9 year old wife with love and care (and seminal presents).
>14% toxic.
Is Goolag, dare I say, /ourguys/?
>>61837869
hurr durr
>>61837376
Can leave a comment to bump the post. >>>/qa/1513856
>>61825069
>advancing technology to create safe spaces
Goodness gracious.
>>61825069
Can this replace "back to /pol/" posters?
>>61825069
>>61825069
Safezone, the API.
Now you can filter any viewpoint that differs from your own.
Used by out partnerts at: Echo-Chambers, LLC, Google, INC. and The Vibrant Diversity Corporation
>>61838826
>christian
25%
>muslim
15%
>jewish
50%
kek. nobody likes jews
>>61839052
>all the jews want to do is take your shekels. They have built and empire of banking systems worldwide just so that they can do this, and believe you me, they have gotten very good at it.
29% toxic
>>61839072
this AI actually seems pretty spot on.
>if there i could choose any single thing that would be the most dangerous thing for peaceful coexistence in this world it would be the jewish community.
>They lobby our politicians, senators and congressmen in an effort to grab as many shekels as possible from us, the people of the world.
>They have no desire to 'make friends' they are selfishly in it for themselves.
>Look at Isreal; they are constantly at odds with the Palestinians claiming "they didnt want the land" or, "they arent a people anyways"
>Theyre only desire is our shekels. They want to take our money from us and rule over us and they will do it any way they can; they will alter laws to be in their favor, they will pay off politicians and get their way, and I, for one, am tired of sitting down and twiddling my thumbs
AI says 29% toxic. maybe this number is a tad high, but mostly I agree.
Found the most and least toxic OP comments on /pol/:
>>>/pol/136853654
>>>/pol/136846641curl -s a.4cdn.org/pol/catalog.json \
| jq -c '.[].threads[].com | gsub("<br>";"\n") | gsub("'";"'\''") | gsub(""";"\"") | gsub("<";"<") | gsub(">";">") | gsub("&";"&") | gsub("<[^>]*>";"")' \
| while read -r x; do
printf '%s %s\n' "$(curl -s https://www.perspectiveapi.com/check -H 'Content-Type: application/json' -d "$(jq -Rc '{"comment":.}'<<<"$x")" | jq -r '.attributeScores["TOXICITY@4"].summaryScore.value')" "$x"
done \
| sort -n
>>>/pol/136877660
guy the ai is racist
>>61825613
>>61825642
My eyes
This brings me back to 90s Nickelodeon
>>61825069
Did you guys already break this one?
>I want to have a baby with you
>37% toxic
loli = delicious delicious delicious delicious
0% toxic
>giving it single words and being surprised that results arent accurate
retards
>commie nigger furry
Jesus Christ
>98%
>'co'mm'ie' 'ni'g'ger' 'fur'ry'
'Je'sus' 'Ch'ri'st'
was delicious delicious was delicious was delicious was delicious delicious ~joy~ delicious delicious delicious was delicious delicious love delicious delicious delicious delicious delicious good delicious delicious delicious
>0%
suck my cock dude
>99%
s'uck m'y c'ock d'ude
>29%
s'uck m'y c'ock d'ude
The delicious food, it was delicious delicious delicious. Thank you, delicious love, for the delicious delicious delicious food.
>1%