/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

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my thinkpad x220 with Mac OSX Sierra :)

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>>61809322
>stop coming to /tpg/ for a while
>there are now faggot op editions

wtf, what went wrong

>>61809401
lighten up

or alternatively, get your shit together and post a better c/p op before some idiot swoops in if you care so much

So I've got a T440p coming in later this week with these specs:
>intel core i7 4600m 2.9ghZ
>8gb ram
>500gb hdd
>1600x900 monitor

I've also got a new hdd (2tb) coming to upgrade the stock one. Aside from that and the screen, is there anything else I should consider upgrading?

What specific model of FHD screen do you all recommend for me to buy? Looking at the FRU list on this model's parts list is a bit confusing for me cuz idk what to get.

Have t420. Is egpu a meme? Also, does changing cpu akes any noticeable difference? My thing is that it just gets too noisy

Request to add this to the OP:
http://tp.krelay.de
https://files.catbox.moe/k6ta8z.xlsx

Also how do i check if a T400 uses CFL or LED without touching it?

>>61809586
if you can get a used card for free i feel an egpu setup can make sense. otherwise youre putting money into a project that might as well be a budget desktop build. bug your friend for his 750/960/whatever next time he upgrades. as for actual performance, shit that runs *okay* on igpu (new vegas) will do great with an egpu. something beefier like prey or overwatch that won't even start on the igpu will run *fairly well* on an egpu at medium settings

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>>61809322
I just bought a t430 with 8gb ram and 500gb hdd with i5 for 180

did I fugg id ub :DDDD

pig related

>>61809574
Swap the trackpad out for the '50 series version.

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>>61809359

Do the T4*0p ThinkPads have ULV garbage CPUs?

Found an old x61 when doing a clean out. How bad is it?

>>61810389
CPU ends in u?
yes.
Only T440 and newer have ULV CPUs.
T430 and older have normal CPUs.

>>61810398
Its alright for a simple laptop.

I have a G40. Why? I think I can sell it for a newer business laptop.

X220 and T420 are the same price here. Are there's any reason to buy the X220 other than it's size [and the benefits that come with it]?

why do you all like think pads so much

>>61810689
The X220 can use an IPS screen unlike the TN cancer on the T420 and some models have usb3.0, meanwhile the T420 can use three drives, has an upgradeable processor and has a 1600x900 screen.

>>61810704
cuz theyr gud

>>61810736
Doesnt the X220 CPU can be upgraded too?

>>61810764
No, it's soldered to the board iirc

>>61810736
>>61810774
Thanks for that info. Welp, if I actually find a X220 with an i7 I will definitely go for it. I've only ever seen i5 X220. Plus the i7 X220 supposedly has a touch capable screen.

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What the shit, why are these going for so much? The only extras were two power cords and a $16 dock.

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Okay /g/, I have T420 with hackintosh, win10 and Linux. Main problem is that clover can't see Linux install, but can see windows loader (everything in efi). I allowed Linux scan in config.plist, but still nothing.
Linux is antergos, I don't have time to fuck with arch
Help highly appreciated
Pic not related

>>61811391
is the antergos efi folder and .efi file on the same folder as clover and windows efi?

>>61811422
Windows and antergos yeah, clover on different drive

>>61810829
Are you thinking of the x220t. X220 i7s are nice because of USB 3.0

>>61811429
Try having all efis in the same folder as clover, that's how i have it.

t. booting four OSes with clover and gayos

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>>61811060
I have no idea. Even the SSD and Ram upgrades wouldn't add on more than $100 extra in value.

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I have one day to decide whether to buy a t440p or an x230t

The purpose is university work - coding, doc processing, taking notes; and reading pdf's for hours every day on a train.

I love the screen size, toughness and socketed cpu of the t440p.
I love the multi-orientation, touchscreen, and IPS display of the x230t; the stylus could be extremely useful for notetaking, too.

Something tells me the x230t is more suited to my use case.. but I'm worried about the screen size. 12.5" is pretty damn small.

Can anyone comment on this? Is there anything I should know about the x230t?

>>61811464
May I just copy it? Or do I need to reinstall and shit

>>61811539
try just copying it as long as you keep the antergos/grubx64.efi hierarchy

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>>61811595
forgot pic, that's how i have my clover EFI folder

>>61811536
Both laptops have IPS displays, as long as you run the FHD screen on the t440p.

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>>61811623
Okay, thanks mate

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I recently bought a T530 and I'm trying to install an SSD and get the data transferred over. I'm having some trouble doing this though. I know this is not really a specific Thinkpad issue, but if you could give me some advice, it would be hugely appreciated. I have outlined the details in greentext:

>I plugged in a USB 1TB external HDD, which I then formatted to NTFS
>Using Macrium Reflect, I cloned my internal HDD to the external HDD; I checked the contents of the external HDD to ensure that this had taken place.
>After shutting down the computer, I removed my internal HDD and replaced it with a blank 120GB SSD formatted to NTSF (like the external HDD)
>With an SSD installed and with the external HDD still connected via USB, I turned on the computer, pressing F1 to enter BIOS.
>I navigated to 'Startup', then 'Boot' and moved the relevant external HDD to the top of the 'Boot Priority Order' list. I then saved the changes and exited.
>The computer then automatically opens the 'Boot Menu' and provides me with a list of 4 boot options. I select the relevant external HDD. After pressing 'Enter', the computer immediately brings up the same boot menu. I select the same external HDD again.
>After this, the computer goes to blank screen and nothing else happens. I've let it sit for 10 minutes to see if it's booting really slow, but no luck.

I'm sure there's something I'm missing. I'm not super great with computers.

>>61809322
I bought a T420 and was wondering if anyone had problem with the combo audio jack or is it just me?

>>61811738
Windows doesn't boot from external drives, and you were meant to clone your installation to the SSD

>>61811738

If you boot from the external HDD, how are you going to clone it to the empty internal SSD?

>>61811738
Just use clonezilla faget

>>61809359
How's the battery life? Is installing OSX worth the trouble?

>>61809359
I tried to make a hackintosh and install OSX on a Thinkpad and it was next to impossible for me with constant crashes

Any tips on how it can be done?

>>61809322
what's up with these stupid images?

>>61811691
Well, it still doesn't work

How big is the difference between performance in x230/220/200? Do I need to buy x230 and swap 220 keyboard or I'll be okay with 220/200? I do most of my work either on cli/tui or Emacs. I'm browsing web using eww + rarely opening Firefox. I'm coding big projects and doing real work mostly on my desktop PC and I'm using laptop when I'm not home or when I'm at bed. Should I pay more for 230?

Also, I want white thinkpad. What is the best type of dye to paint thinkpad?

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Thinkcentre general.

>t520

would a chink battery be an improvement over my original sanyo with 43% capacity?

>>61809322
Does anyone know that one Japanese Thinkpad with the weird scissors keyboard that spits into two

Where can I buy it

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I cut my finger on a sharp edge of my thinkpads hard drive caddy.

>>61811829
Does this mean I need to buy an enclosure with SATA connections for the SSD? Do you think I could take apart the external HDD and use that case?

>>61811850
Presumably by then re-cloning the contents of the external HDD to the now internal blank SSD. I can't see why this would be an issue.

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>>61809359

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>>61812383
holy shit

>>61811536
tfw want non tablet x230
tfw t430 is way cheaper

I just want a lilcyberpunkmachine

>>61812932
As an x230 owner, what the fuck is cyberpunk about it.

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>>61813008
>not being a cyberpirate
>2017

>buy a t410
>get it with 4 instead of 8gb ram
>trackpoint scrollbutton is broken off

so I just contacted the seller and she offered to send it back and get a refund + she pays the shipping or she pays half the cost back (20 euros). people can still be nice in this world

>>61812775

Cloning a mounted disk is almost universally discouraged - especially with a system drive. It is technically possible, but will likely result in compromised copies.

The best thing to do if no further drives are available, is to boot into a liveCD or liveUSB environment (OS running from RAM), leaving all drives free to be cloned/manipulated safely.

Personally, I use Clonezilla as included in PartedMagic as included in Ultimate Boot CD version 533. There are newer versions of PartedMagic, but they are no longer free.

Anyone have experience with these generic 9 cell battery replacements? Are they safe and an decent alternative. I recently bought an x220 and the old battery has already ceased working. Computer only runs on AC and if I remove the cord it instantly shuts down and refuses to boot.

>>61811060
too expensive
i just bought x230t for half the price. it has i5/128gbSSD/8gb tho

>>61812275
>I do most of my work cli/tui or emacs
hey brother of the cult of emacs
if you dont use X I'd pick a x200 (librebooted) without a doubt
if you need some X 220 will be just fine if you just want more power (wich would take more battery) take an x230
I currently use a x230 with an i7 and am looking for a x200 just to boot into guix + emacs

>>61811060
looks like pristine condition plus it has 256gb ssd (yuk 500> or it isnt worth it) and the i7. he asks way too much but at the end of the day its still a good machine he sells. it literally looks unused

what's a better investment, an IPS panel or a 9 cell battery?

>>61813394
>I only travel
battery
>I like watching stuff on my laptop
ips

>>61811536
don't know a thing about t440p, but x230t's screen has burn-in problem. battery could also be better - it supports only 3 and 6 cell batteries (while x230 can use 9 cell ones). 6 cell version also sticks out from the laptop

i bought it for coding and pdf reading, and it fits my use case perfectly. 6 cell battery lasts for ~6 hours (with ssd). burn-in is not noticeable on lighter backgrounds/themes

>>61809854
nah, I'd recommend waiting for a FHD upgrade kit that works this time around, get an i7 quad core like the i7 36xxQM ones, 16GB of RAM and a beefy new battery, then finally put in an mSATA SSD and a HDD, such a sick combo imo, the mSATA SSD for applications, music, OS and a few videos and the HDD for your other big files.

how hard is librebooting an x200t? apparently it uses a different chipset that the x200 (GM45 vs GS45) and it seems like there are raminit problems

just bought a x220 tablet for $200, the description said it was a i5 but ended up being an i7 with a 240gb ssd, its in excellent condition as well.

>>61813317
I use x11 with i3wm. I actually want to migrate to Wayland and sway some day

>>61813599
congratz, that's really nice for you, will you tell your seller or will you just keep shut about it? I personally would sell that SSD somehow and get an mSATA SSD with a HDD in the 2.5" drive bay.

I want to make love to my X220. What do?

>>61813631
>emacs
>wayland
I'm so sorry

>be me
>order a refurbished X230 for 190 Eurobucks
>description says "non-backlit keyboard"
>gets delivered
>it's actually a backlit keyboard BUT
>BUT it has been professionally painted over to match my country's keyboard layout
>basically have a backlit keyboard but without the transparent letters for the light to shine through
>have to use ThinkLight

I'm not even mad though. I like the ThinkLight more anyways. From what I've seen the backlit keyboards are shiny and get sticky after prolonged use.

>>61813487
>but x230t's screen has burn-in problem
Most monitors will have a "burn-in problem" if you have them displaying the exact same thing for a very long time at high brightness, particularly if it's a big contrast right next to another thing. Usually not permanent, though.

T430 with i7 3rd gen vPRO 3520M 2.9 ghz8gb ddr3 ram1TB SSHDIntel HD4000 14 INCH
or
T430 i5 vPRO 3rd gen 8GB RAM 256 SSD 1600*900
which one should I get? I guess the first one isn't 1600x900?

>>61814143
>Most monitors will have a "burn-in problem" if you have them displaying the exact same thing for a very long time at high brightness
from my experience the X220 and X230 IPS panels show the first signs of burn after a mere 10 minutes of displaying the same image
>not permanent
True. On CRTs screen burn was permanent but LCDs are somewhat immune to that

>>61813631
does sway support gaps?

>>61814268
>I guess the first one isn't 1600x900?
Could be. Could also not be since there's no mention of resolution. I'd factor in the cost of a replacement display if I were to buy that first one.

>>61814268
The first one, unless money is an issue.

>>61813317
the x230 is slower and uses less battery

>>61813631
>Wayland
well Ubuntu is trying to establish that as the new standard. any intel on whether or not X is gonna be included in future releases? I'd like to stick with i3 but upgrade to the next LTS release in 2018

/tgp/, I am in need of advice.
My x230 isn't satisfying me anymore in regards of games. I do not have any high end needs but Overwatch is barely playable on all low.
I've tries few games on company W520 and it was ok experience. But W series is huge and I would prefer something compact and high powered. Where I live I can buy W530 at around 500-800 Euros, depending on particular configuration but I am totally lost what to choose that isn't a aircraft carrier.

>>61814388
>>61814393
thanks.

>>61815043
Keep that X230 and get some used 2 year old gaymen laptop. GTX980m or GTX970m

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Does anyone with a thinkpad x201 running gentoo can share his kernel config file?
I keep failing to get wireless working.

>>61815255
Those are well over my budget, sadly.

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I don't know anything about Thinkpads, and the used TP guide doesn't list this model so I have to ask here:
>Lenovo Thinkpad X131E
>Sandy Bridge, either Celeron 867 (2x1.3GHz) or Core i3-2367M (2x1.4GHz), no idea which one this is, might even be the AMD model
>4GB DDR3
>320GB HDD
>1366x768
>plays 1080p Youtube without hiccups
>$150, very lightly used
Should I? Or is this trash for the money? I need something so I can constantly be jacked into the Information Superhighway and shitpost wherever I go.

Note that I'm a Yuropoor where used computers cost a bit more than in the US for whatever reason.

>>61815578
>used

Would an X200 tablet be a good alternative to something like a surface pro if I'm looking for something to take notes on for grad school classes and probably also do some programming? I'm mainly worried about the latency of the stylus making the writing experience garbage

>>61815590
It's basically a netbook. If you're fine with netbooks, go for it. I just got to inform you that for the same price you could get an infinitely better X220 or X230 with a 12" screen and a proper 2.5GHz i5.

Proper Thinkpads are T series, W series (later renamed to P), and X2xx series.

>>61815636
>latency
ThinkPad tablets are pretty good in that regard. The screen is crap compared to the surface though. On the other hand, used ThinkPads are a lot cheaper than a surface.

>>61815590
Well it's certainly among the smalles and lightest Thinkpads. The build quality is not on par with the regular T or X series but the price seems to be at least semi OK for Europe. If you get this keep in mind that it doesn't feature the real Thinkpad keyboard. The real one is better.

I used one of these in school a few years back. It's OK for shitposting but do yourself a favor and at least buy the i3 version. Celeron is trash.

X230 tablet with i7-3520M for 400 dollars, is it a good deal?
>>61815590
I am polishpoor, so I would presume my perspective is similar to yours.
Short answer is no. Get X/T/W Thinkpad, X220 works for me as a everyday workhorse with only it's HD3000 GPU being a bottleneck, as it is useless for gaming <it does run STALKER well thou>. X230 is better but it is hard to find one for 150 dollars in, heh, central europe.
As this anon said, >>61815790
it is a netbook. It is a nice netbook but you can't really do much with one. A 'proper', as defined by guides in top post, can be upgraded with RAM, proper SSD and be a very good computer for any given value. Also, external docks. And bateries are cheap.

>>61815636
I've only tried x201 with wacom digitizer and can say that for writing it is a very fine device. For drawing, sketching, latency can get noticable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urzu3yfwahA

How do you guys get the function keys working in linux? I can start a web browser, load web search, and adjust keyboard backlight & screen brightness, but none of the other keys react.
Running Tumbleweed on a T540p.

>>61815790
Nah I was originally looking for a netbook since I don't want to haul some heavy-ass piece of shit around. And X220 will be over budget here.

>>61815851
>do yourself a favor and at least buy the i3 version. Celeron is trash.
Do you think the mobo of a Celeron example can take the i3 or will it be a huge bottleneck?

>>61815790
>>61815590

IMHO, it doesn't get better than the x220. Especially if you have the normal 3 cell battery, you will be surprised how slimline and portable it is (it's barley larger than a netbook even though it's got a great keyboard). The only downsides compared to older models from my point of view is the webcam and trackpad, neither of which I want. But you can put 16gb of ram in it if you want, and an SSD.

>>61815590
meh. worse build quality, worse performance, worse keyboard and disappointing I/O compared to T/W/X series.
and it's not even cheaper. even in europe you can get aproper X series for that price. best would be

X200 (1280x800)
X220 (1366x768)

both would perform better

>>61815884
>webcam and trackpad
X230 owner here
Mine luckily doesn't have a webcam but I agree, the touchpad is crap and I don't use it. The Trackpoint is superior. I'm gonna upgrade to a classic keyboard soon.

>>61815897
>X200/X201
>actually available without trackpad
these things are literally a dream come true.

>>61815936
X200 > X201 though because it can be liberated.

>>61815790
>>61815852
>>61815884
>>61815897
Well I just looked around on Ebay for the x220 in Europe and for about the same price as this netbook they're all fucking trashed, while the x131e I actually physically saw is only very lightly used. Also I'm Hungarian so I need my QWERTZ and retarded áccénts.

>>61812383
That's pretty neat in a weeaboo as fuck way.

>>61816062
>Hungarian
How's weather down in south, still Sahara-tier?
I've actually managed to find this - https://www.olx.pl/oferta/lenovo-thinkpad-x230i-i3-4gb-ram-win7pro-320gb-CID99-IDlAoL6.html#150ec65a1e
114.92 Euros, with exception of that palmrest it is in very nice condition. And with that price you can get replacement keyboards with all those weird ć, ę and ł.
Can translate if needed.

>>61816234
>How's weather down in south, still Sahara-tier?
There was like two days of cool jungle rain, but all that was good for is making all the mosquito larvae hatch. Now it's hot as on Venus again and I'm covered in bites.

>>61809359
What are you gona do about the Windows 7 sticker?

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Actually found this one in Hungary:

http://www.vatera.hu/lenovo-thinkpad-x220-i5-laptop-toltovel-2508314324.htm

>CPU: Intel Core i5-2520M 2.70 GHz
>RAM: 4 Gb DDR3
>HDD: 320Gb
>VGA: Intel HD 4000
>about $170
Is this the one, /tpg/? Or should I keep looking?

Is there any news yet about the new T480 series?

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>Want to install Libreboot on my T400
>Want to use my Raspberry Pi 3 for flashing because I don't have a BBB
>No instructions for flashing T400 with Pi, just X60/T60 and X200
>Scared to do anything without instructions, don't even know where to begin

>>61816420
X220 with hd4000? That's suspicious.

>>61817027
Why? Price too low for that? This does have an English keyboard though, which is a pain in the ass for Hungarians to use. That might push the price down a bit.

Thoughts?
http://www.porterelectronics.com/lenovo-thinkpad-x220-2-5ghz-i5/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw5arMBRDzARIsAAqmJex9R3BLO0cio-hBfYlGw0g9_6j93j006w1A-nAHHoPy0ZWRAMN8c6IaAiEHEALw_wcB

>>61817152
No because the HD4000 is one generation newer than the X220.
The X220 came with second gen i5 CPUs and these include the Intel HD3000. The HD4000 is the integrated GPU for 3rd gen i5 (for example X230) and these were never available in the X220.

CPU is weird too. The i5-2520m is a 2.5GHz CPU. 2.7GHz is only available with the i7-2620m.

>>61811536
Have T440p.
Find a ex-lease with decent specs that has the 720p screen and mechanical hard drive. Then just upgrade that shit afterwards, my 1080p panel was only like 100 bucks and the 720p model was nearly 300 cheaper than the FHD one.

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>>61817276
Well the OS does say i5-s2520m at 2.5GHz. Maybe the guy is just sloppy. His seller rating is good though, 98,62%, so probably not a scammer.

Budget: 500€-600€

Location:Europe

Size: not too small

Performance: enough for some gaming, not too much. I want to run the recent Doom game on it, preferentially at 60fps+ on high/ultra.
Considering eGPU

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>>61817276
>tfw working on a x220 with a 2.8ghz i7
>CPU choice isn't even listed on Lenovo's specs page for this model

>>61817973
Maybe he was typing on a non-Thinkpad keyboard. That would explain the errors.

>>61812932
Fuuuuuck I thought I was set on the X230 but now I'm torn between it and the T430 because it doesn't look like it's THAT much bigger.
I'll be away from home for a year and want a portable machine to stay sane. Something not too big/heavy and with good battery. Also want to chip away at my game backlog, mostly old/low graphics games. It looks like there are T430's with Nvidia 5400M's which would probably be nice to have over Intel HD 4000 but ahhhhh what do I get?

>>61818082
The Lenovo site only shows 3 options while in reality there were 11 as far as I know.

>>61817263
pls respond

>>61818000
What you want is not a thinkpad

Is the T400 the Thinkpad with the best specs that's capable of running Libreboot?

>>61818260
As far as I know the W500 is.

>>61818298
Or the W700. I forgot this even exists.

>>61818232
Go for it mane, good price for online. Got one myself at a surplus sale for almost that.

>>61818315
Is $45 for 8gb ram worth it?

>>61818260
Newer models run coreboot

>>61818420
You'd get it cheaper if you just upgrade it yourself

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What do people think about the L570?

Is the price difference against the T570 worth it?

>>61818451
>proprietary blobs
ahahahahaha

>>61818628
Where do I buy it?

>>61818671
RAM? Amazon

>>61818701
Sweet, buying the 4gb version right away. A 2.5 SSD fits too, right?

>>61818717
Yep.

>>61818637
Help plz

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>>61809322
Hi lads, I have a Lenovo X220 with an M.2 slot, it seems to fit PHYSICALLY but I'd rather not take a risk and turn it on yet before knowing for sure
Am I doing it right or am I retarded? Can I fry something like this? Card in question is Dell 1510 (incompatible but I have a custom bios)
Google gave no results
Thanks

>>61809359
What bios?

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>>61819104
>X220 with an M.2 slot

>>61816420
>>61817276
Either way will this be a good deal?

>>61819182
wat
am i even more retarded than i originally thought?

>>61819278
It's mSATA which is quite a bit slower than M.2

>>61818140
Answering myself, I'm back to the X230, I think the IPS would be nicer to have if I want to watch a movie. Nvidia 5400m has no benefit for games. Then I can save a bit of weight and be more portable.

>>61819182
yea...you didn't know?

>>61819707
post photo of an M.2 SSD on it then

>>61819760
Don't have a photo but heres this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ48LTWo9CI

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>>61819760
le trololol

>>61819787
mSATA is not M.2 you mediocre dimwhit

>>61819787
that's not M.2 you stupid /v/tard

>>61811867
Battery life is great, the issue is that the touchpad doesn't play well and it's worth disabling. For a gesture heavy OS like macOS is a bit disappointing.

>>61819837
>>61819819
Just cut it in half and it fits

Does the t430 (integrated graphics) need any non-free drivers? Specifically for wifi cause I don't have an ethernet connection and would like to prepare the firmware if it is not included in the kernel.

>>61809630
>Also how do i check if a T400 uses CFL or LED without touching it?
Bump?

>>61809322
>paid 200$
But that's okay, I live in a shithole.

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>t420 been running at like 90 degrees
>opened it up
>cpu fan is caked with dust, thermal paste is hard and old as fuck

>clean that shit up
>now running at 39 degrees

Fuck yiss

>>61821060
I reduced my T400 temperature by 50°C just from removing the dust bunnies and using NT-H1 on it.

>>61821136
Nice.
Used $5.00 Arctic Silver 5, myself.

>>61809322
Is it okay to let my memepad charge overnight? It does have a li-po battery but I want to be sure it's gonna last at least 4 years.

>>61821258
It should stop charging after its full..otherwise there is an issue

>>61821386
Alright cool, I just want to be sure I don't damage the battery in any way.

>>61821415
Unless you have a really shitty chinese battery it will stop charging once it is 100%.

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I bought myself a P51s for grad school. How much do you faggots hate me?

>>61813730
Dildotronics with emacs

>>61815043
8770w has upgradable gpu

>>61821932
>ULV processor
>less than 300cd/m^2 screen
>shit GPU
>50-60°C under load
>2000€
You're gonna hate yourself for making shit decisions.

>>61815043
Why not just build a gaming PC for 500-800€?

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I need help, does anyone know how to actually get the bios in pic related?
I do intend to max ram and sue a eGPU setup at the same time so this concerns me a great deal, but it seems the dude who made the bios has been banned from the forum in the links provided by the wiki, and there are no downloads or ways to contact him.

If anyone has ti I would really appreciate it

>>61822266
I only have the T420 one.

>>>/tv/86149158
>>>/tv/86149158
>>>/tv/86149158

NEW THREAD

>>61813137
>buy a t410
Why m8, why the fuck would you do that?
t.410 owner

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>>61822325
I guess this is the Twin Peaks thread?

>>61820427
pls respond

>>61822325
no fuck you

>>61822266
why did they ban him

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2nd-HDD-Hard-Drive-Caddy-Adapter-For-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T440p-T540-W540-optical-bay-/272322484773?hash=item3f67af5a25:g:K~EAAOSwc49Y7zZ3

Any reason to not get this over the official one? Are they garbo or will it be ok?

I just recieved a t520. What do?

>>61822888
install macOS

Cunts. I messaged an ebay seller about the specs and condition of an X230 that was refurbished but priced pretty low. Instead of a reply, they just pulled the listing. I should have just bought it.

I'm searching for the t420 one, I kinda forgot to write that in my post, I would be very grateful if you could share it.

What modifications would I need to do in order to run 16GB DDR3 - 1866MHz in my T420? or is it just impossible?

Must-have X220 upgrades? So far I'm planning
>extra 4gb ram
>SSD

>>61819594
Nvs 5400m does make an improvement in gaming tho...it is better than quadro 1000m in w520.

>>61819104
Are you fitting a Dell 1510 wireless card?

If so, there are no issues, I've done this.

Are you making a hackintosh by any chance?

>>61823799
A 850 EVO.
4GB SSD.
a cheap mSATA SSD for stuff that is not important.

>>61823566
the bios that this fag has >>61822296, nothing else.

>>61824029
>4GB
That sounds really small.

>>61824192
4GB RAM*

I wanted to say something but i guess the smallest usable SSD is 16-32GB.

>>61823258
meant to reply to >>61822296

>>61824240
So
>250GB 850 EVO
>4GB RAM
Any chance of a 1080p IPS?

>>61824273
not for X series earlier than X240. even if you'd find a fitting panel it would be a shit ton of work because the internal LVDS connector doesn't support 1080p. you'd have to use the displayport

Is the p50 /tpg/ approved?

>>61824324
I guess 786p is fine.

>>61824459
higher res would drain your battery and make your cpu go nutsanyways

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What is this? I jusr removed ultrabay from my t420 and thus came out

>>61824572
you dun goofed
is nerve gas
öy fug :D:D:D:D:D

>>61809322
Does anyone know where I can get a T440s Full HD display?

>>61824572
Its the lock mechanism, can put it back in through the bay with some annoying finesse IRC

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>>61823799
>bios mod
>m-sata ssd 128gb 850 evo
>16gb ram 1600 mhz
>ips screen
>hd 2,5 2TB

T420 fag here.

1. is it worth it to get new thermal paste? it gets very noisy and hot (over 90c)
2. 2720qm, or new cpu in general. worth it?
3. using it mostly docked. thought about getting x220 for heck of it. worth it or dont bother? thx

>>61825200
>s it worth it to get new thermal paste? it gets very noisy and hot (over 90c)

Yes.

You likely need to compress air spray the fan out too.

Your temps should be half that

>>61825207
thx. how about new cpu? i feel like i thought about upgrading cpu cuz it was getting too noisy and hot. ill guess ill check out after i put new thermal paste and clean the fan

>>61825293
CPU's dont make noise.
It's your fan, likely needs deep cleaning and thermal paste on the cpu.

Also, laptops should be kept on flat surfaces

>>61825052
>2017
>hdd

>>61825307
i have it docked. does that count?

>>61825334
>i have it docked.

Yeah thats probably good, never tried one.

>>61825334
dock should be fine
they aren't the best for airflow, but they shouldn't kill it
>>61825307
well they can make noise
but if they do it's usually not a good sign

>>61811867
The battery life is purdy good. I haven't even muck with tweaking to make battery even better

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Did I do okay its my first purchase ?

Uhh what do you guys spend in total for upgrades to your Thinkpads? This quickly turned into a $450-$550 machine.
>X230.....~$240
>mSATA 850 Evo 250gb SSD.....$108
>WD 2.5" 1TB HDD.....$70
>legit 9cell bat.....$77
>IPS screen.....$60

Am I being retarded or is this reality?

>>61811874

I just follow a guide. My big hurdle was no having a Mac to create the bootable USB drive. I did it on a VM... Took me took days, cuz of errors writing to the USB drive on the VM.

>>61811867

Probably not worth the trouble but it fun to have if you have extra thinkpads laying around.

>>61816409
I am keeping it for now...to lazy to peel it

just went from x230 to a 2013 x1 carbon
if anyones thinking of buying one of the older x1s but has any questions just ask and ill try and respond

>>61819128

Modified 1.43

>>61821932
You over paid anon, you could have bought 3-5 older thinkpads. Enjoy your misery fagget

>>61809322
what do people think of the current T-series? 470x, 460, & 570

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>>61823258
my.mixtape.moe/yvasab.zip

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>>61819104
Remove the Intel WLAN card and put it in there.

Or get a half-slot to full-slot mPCIE extender thing.

>>61819425
mSATA is restricted to SATA, M.2 is the interface name, there are SATA M.2 drives which obviously are also restricted to SATA speeds

>>61825200
yes
yes if you do works that focuses on moar coars
depends on you

Get a new battery, charger, sdd and 8gb of ram for my x201 (which is badly damage) or get a new x230 (with i7 and a ssd) for around 350$

>>61825437
Getting the image is no problem with a cheap macbook

Just need a proper guide that actually works. Any suggestions?

>>61825419
Considering that you can buy an x230 with an IPS screen for $190? yes.

>>61825320
I know, but muh money. A large ssd is too expensive.

>>61825918
You CAN, but aren't likely to. That's my dilemma. Slim pickings during my searching so far. Nothing on the local ads either.

Anyone tried temple os on old thinkpad?

>>61826009
You can RIGHT NOW

>>61826114
Pls halp, where? I've been watching ebay and browsing refurbished sites all day. I'm trying to find a decent base X230 to get setup, then I'll upgrade as I need.

>>61826573
just look up x230 on ebay with buy it now and sorted by lowest price.

Of course make sure you read the description before you buy it.

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I am having a very specific issue with Windows 7 Pro on my T420. After I did a clean install, I try to run Lenovo System Update to get the drivers and such, but I get an error saying 'The System Update Center Is Currently Unavailable.'

This is outlined in this thread: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/Special_Interest_Utilities/thread-id/18828/page/1

The solution is to modify a registry key to say "VENDOR"="THINK", instead of "VENDOR"="UNDEFINED". However, there is no such key in my registry at all, as seen in the picture.

Any ideas on how to fix this? Might be more of a Windows 7 issue, but I really have no idea what to do.

>>61826652
make it then

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>>61826717
Just did that, it didn't work. Guess I'll just try reinstalling Windows again.

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>>61809322
Should I get X1C, X1 Yoga, or T470s?

All of them seem to have throttling problems when they get under load.

The Yoga looks cool but I'm not sure if I'd ever bend it around. I bet I'd never use it or I'd use it all the time. Not sure.

The 1440p screen and ultrabook size is a must.

I'll run Linux w/ i3 on it.

Tell me what to buy, /g/

Can I install Parabola on a Thinkpad BEFORE installing Libreboot? Would it make any difference?

>>61825408
No. You spent way too much.

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t420 save me i reset bios but wont let me install iso. it is just the iso file for mint.

>>61827145
install macos

> Inb4 bad english
I buy my first Thinkpad (a T420) for like $150 USD

Specs:
> Latin American keyboard Layout
>Core i5 2520 @ 2.5 GHz
>4GB RAM
>320 HDD (WD Scorpio Black)
>Fingerprint reader

How I did?
>I'm mexican and isn't an 'murica import/waste; it's a second hand from a business company that sells old equipement they had used. It has it's keyboard in pretty good conditions (Not erased keys), but the only issue it's that his battery last like 50 minutes.

>>61813008
it's the posterboy for libreboot (obviously not past the 20s but w/e) for one thing

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T470p - $1,061.28
>i7-7700HQ
>940MX 2GB
>256 GB PCIe-NVMe

P51 - $1,151.73
>i7-7700HQ
>Quadro M1200 4GB
>500GB HDD + 256GB PCIe MLC

T570 - $1,165.13
>i7-7600U
>940MX 2GB
>256GB PCIe-NVMe
>non-IPS screen

All other options the same. FHD, 8GB of RAM. What get?

>>61827179
You did good, my fellow beaner.
Regarding the battery, you can always get a chink one

>>61827145
Change the boot order.
Maybe?

>>61827236

How good are the chink ones? Any good "brand" that you can recommend me?

I've been looking for a 9 cell one, but the Lenovo ones are pretty expensive (here) compared to the chink ones.

Anyone have that cute picture of Yan Zhu with her thinkpad? I need cheering up

can someone explain to me why everyone uses thinkpads?

>>61827219
Wait a couple of years and buy them for $200

>>61820427
Hello?

>>61827145
Use boot manager.

Will Coreboot work on the x220 Tablet? Also is removing Intel ME a possibility and still having my shit boot a possibility yet?

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>>61827236
>>61827236

This is the most common chink "brand" for Thinkpad batteries over here, 9 cells and it cost like $70 USD.

Worth it?

>>61827446
you can get genuine ones for the same price and they have a warranty

>>61827179
Mercadolibre?

>>61813487
>>61813487
>>61813487

>x230t supports only 3 and 6 cell batteries (while x230 can use 9 cell ones).

Is this really true? I was going to get a 9 cell for my x230t and I never heard this. Is this the case even when the embedded controller is flashed to use x220 batteries?

>>61827472
The original ones cost like $165 over here

>>61827486
Si.

Algún otro lugar dónde pueda comprar otra batería a un mejor precio?

>>61827514
No.

Just buy the german ones that last 3-4 hours.

>>61827486
Pero hace un par de meses la compré. Desconozco si el vendedor siga por ahí.
> Pensé que me hablabas sobre la batería

>>61827514
if you get it straight from Lenovo yeah, check Amazon and Ebay

>>61827487
yes, Lenovo only made 6-cell batteries for the tablets. Unless you count the slice battery or third party batteries.

>>61827514
https://www.amazon.com.mx/Bateria-Original-Lenovo-Thinkpad-Sl410/dp/B0742KHM2Z/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502339624&sr=8-1&keywords=lenovo+t420+bateria

My x220 Tablet is missing a bunch of retaining screws. Are those something I can buy? If not is getting a non-working/damaged x220 Tablet on ebay or something to source the screws from a good idea?

>>61827569
No es la de 9 celdas, es de 6 pero es original. Y qué buen precio. Lo tomaré en cuenta y probablemente haga la compra en un futuro cercano. Gracias!
> En Mercadolibre tienden a inflar demasiad los precios :c

> I assume you are mexican bc you left the link for amazon.com.MX

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>>61827412
>>61827245
i changed the boot order to dvd as the first but still the issue persisted next I tries having everything default, still nothing. I installed ubuntu fine with the disk the first time with no issue. Does having 64 bit cinnamon linux download make it not work. all i did was drop the iso file on the dvd. what do?

>>61827622
I am Mexican, i own a T400 with a X9100.

>>61827627
>all i did was drop the iso file on the dvd. what do?
You did it wrong, get Rufus and make your USB/DVD bootable.

>>61827596
which screws? most of them are standard m2x3, the others are also mostly m2, but different lengths

>>61827622
I doubt you can find the original 9 cell one in Mexico, your best bet is buy a chink one with LG 18650 batteries or get a original 6 cell one.

>>61827684
I think they're all related to the keyboard and palmrest/trackpad

>>61827636
> La T400 era mi primera opción, porque era económica le podía hacer algunos upgrades. Después estuve tentado por la T410, pero sin querer queriendo encontré la T420 a un mejor precio que la T410, así que me animé mejor por esta,

>>61827627
Use the next boot order
> USB HD
> USB FD
> HDD
> DVD

I'm running Win7, but in the past, I used Lili USB (Linux Live USB) creator to make Linux USB bootable flash drives.

I Tried to boot some Linux distros (Antergos/Mint) on this T420, but I get an error; It doesn't recognized the keyboard, I changed the boot order and works like a charm to boot Wifislax
> Le wi-fi hacker meme

>>61827713
T410 is overpriced here because MUH I5 meme even if its first generation.
X201 is overpriced because is rare as fuck.
T400 is cheap because all banks used it, literally.
L430 and L440 will be cheap soon too.

>>61827705
I'm 99% sure all of those are M2x3.

https://www.amazon.com/Machine-Phillips-Toshiba-Samsung-Alienware/dp/B06XH3PWJQ/

This would work, or just go to the hardware/hobby store.

>>61827691
As you can say, they aren't over here. If they are on online stores, they are imports (from USA?) and they are more expensive :c

> your best bet is buy a chink one with LG 18650 batteries or get a original 6 cell one.

I'm seriously thinking on buy a 6 cell original one instead a 9cell chink one.

>>61827755
Chinese ones will work, they just will last 2 years before you reach the 1 hour battery life.

Piece of shit T430s won't turn on. When I press the power button it'll light up for exactly 1 second then nothing. No display, no fan, nothing. Tried holding the power button for various times (5, 10 30 seconds, a few minutes) and same thing. Time for a new mobo?

>>61827748
Awesome. I'll buy some on Friday. In the meantime will my Thinkpad fall apart without them? There's no keyboard or trackpad currently installed, so I can't say from experience

> Muh Core i5 and 4GB of RAM
You are right with this.

> Some days ago I see an T420 with a Corei7 for Like $400 USD. It was an 'murican import. I laugh at the seller.

>>61827321
Nope. Did that with my last three laptops. I have the opportunity to get a new one, and I'm taking it.

>>61827766

Any diferences between the "50+" and the "70+"
> I've read thats only a compatibility chip for using on the T430 and the T420, but I'm not sure

>>61827908 B-but mine came with a 70+ battery
>>61827908 Here

>>61827966
I mean reply to >>61827939 not to myself.

>>61827908
>Number inside the red circle identifies the pack as being for a particular model or models. AFAIK, the numbering system is arbitrary. The single "+" sign indicates that it's a 6 cell version, vs. the "standard" battery that does not have a "+" sign (usually 3-cell). The double "++" is for the 8 or 9 cell versions.

>>61825512
How's the battery life?

>>61827835
the palm rest has some plastic clippy bits (make sure they are all snapped into place) and the keyboard has some tabs that slide into place, so just don't push the keyboard forward and it should all stick together without any screws

>>61827846
>tfw i'm selling an i7 t420 hd+ with dock, charger and extra battery for $310 aprox
I feel like a turbojew while browsing this thread but then i see the listings of my fellow countrymen and come back to reality.

>>61828180
Twist: anon lives in Israel

>>61828207
Worse, South America.

>>61827846 Here I meant to reply to>>61827724

>>61828180

I'd buy the dock and the battery if you sells to a good price

I just bought a t61 for shitposting in bed

The fan rattles loudly on anything more demanding than the BIOS screen. I am sure oiling the fan will fix it but I am more sure /g/.

How does the fan come apart in these things?

>>61828271
Just rip the whole machine apart. You might be better off buying a new fan for it.

>>61828247
If you're the Mexican anon then you'd be better buying from amazon or something, i'm from shit america and can't ship or receive batteries from overseas. We don't even have amazon.

>>61828316
Entire fan cooler setup or just the fan?
I haven't taken a screwdriver to this yet and cant until next week. (I'd like to order the parts today)

I can get a T400 for $90. Is this good value?

>>61828351
You'll likely have to take the whole cooling assembly out to get the fan out, but you'll want to do that anyway to replace the thermal paste. Use non-conductive thermal paste.

>>61828373
Will conductive fuck me or is it just to be extra safe?

This might be a dumb question, but... is it possible to install water cooling in a T400? Mine overheats like a bitch.

>>61828402
Why would you? Water cooling just lets you install a bigger cooler away from the CPU.
You'd end up with a huge fanny pack hanging out of your laptop

>>61827038
Please respond

>>61828395
Conductive can fuck you if you get it on the capacitors around the die. It's not worth the risk.
Also, spread method for bare die. Pea method will fuck you up.

Where can I find more info on modifying the BIOS?

>>61815320
You need the nonfree drivers, run lspci and look around for your card, then search around on google for a tar.gz you can extract and build

also make sure that if you rebuild your kernel you enable any settings needed (you can usually find this inside the tarball containing the driver you downloaded)

>>61816869
Just buy a BBB

>the pi was a pain in the ass anyways

>>61829057
I'll probably do this. I think saving myself the frustration is worth $70.

>>61809322
/tgp/, what is your opinion in regards to GDP products, especialy Win and Pocket? Does any anon owns one and can share opinions?

>>61829179
Get the fuck out of this thread. Right now.

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>>61829204
But I fit right in here, why would I want to leave?

>>61829270
>But I fit right in here
>Windows 10
No, no you don't.

>>61829308
Can't do anything about it, proprietary software got upgraded and now runs only on 7 and higher. So to hell with it, 10 actually does not stutter.
Don't I get bonus points for CRT?

So how are the first gen i5's on something like the T510 perform these days. I have no frame of reference.

Are they still fine for internet browsing/video watching?

reeeee is a 1080p kit for the t420 without the flickering issue EVER going to come out /g/????

Where's the best place to get a brand new genuine Lenovo battery for the x220?

I just bought a used x220, put in an SSD, did a powertop autotune and the battery life is still pretty piss poor :(

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Well I just pulled the trigger on an x220, it should arrive in 2-3 days. What now? All my desktop crap has Debian Stable or Sid, what should I put on a Thinkpad?

>>61830126
CRT is pretty cool. What proprietary software do you speak of?

>>61827219
T470p
It's lighter
Has a centered keyboard
But fucks you over with thunderbolt

>>61822335
because she said it had 8gb ram so it wouldve been a really good deal now I have it for 20 euros (thats inc shipping) wich is even a better deal

wouldnt you get a t410 again 25 dollars shipped

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It's finally here!

Ignore Windows, it's getting void.

I'm on the fucking verge of selling my Shekell (((Inspiron))) laptop for 450ish$ and buying a refurb Thinkpad T420S with upgraded screen, CPU and RAM. Should I? Use it for programming and shitposting.

>>61830430
WAPRO. Small business management.

>tfw can't decide if I want a i5-7300HQ with a 17 inch screen, or a i7-7700HQ with a 15 inch

I have no way of comparing them in person currently, and I've never owned a laptop before.

What would you choose for your personal needs? I'm kind of leaning towards the i7 to be more future proof, but I can't tell if a 15.6 inch screen would be too uncomfy.

>>61831302
Both 15.6" and 17" are uncomfy.

>>61831327
this

>>61831327
>>61831347
I understand, but it's what fits my budget, and what's available to me in the third world.

>>61825408
oh man, I love probacklit wifi!
>>61825419
I got an x220t for $140
then I got a 64 gig msata ssd for $20
I eventually upgraded to an official battery and a bigger ssd that I got from a friend, but somehow I lost the msata drive.
>>61825971
250 gig ssds are like $100, 500gigs are $150-160
then just have an external hard drive or a nas if you're that much of a faggot

What's the difference between the T420 and T430 and the W520 and W530 if I plan to get it with the classic keyboard?

T420, can't connect to any wifi point through the access connections window anymore, 'Connect' is greyed out, what the fuck, please help.

>>61831302
>mobile quadcore
>no hyper threading
no
>>61831327
>>61831347
manlets

I have an x200 and want to upgrade the screen to the best available for this model/size.

What model number should I be searching for on ebay? I don't want to get scammed/lied to

>>61832045
>manlets
Good luck opening your 17" behemoth on a plane, or bus, or outside... Literally only good for keeping on a desk.

>>61831787
Is the hardware switch toggled?

NEW THREAD FAGGOTS
>>61832634
>>61832634
>>61832634