/wt/ - Watch Thread

Why own a watch if i have an iPhone

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>>61808146
Fashion, appreciation of mechanics

Well I'm glad I got some confirmation as I was really clueless but I really want to get into watches. I never really cared about them but now I feel strangely intrigued.

So I'll probably get the diver and dress Seiko and then save up for the "real deals".
Maybe I'll get a G Shock because I'm a very outdoor person too so having something really sturdy can hurt and they're not that expensive, right?

>>61808146
Because your iPhone is a digital pocket watch.

>>61808146
If you own an iPhone you have bigger problems to worry about.

>>61808174
A cheaper Casio digital watch is one of the go to beater watches.

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>>61808170
>invicta submariner copies

>>61808170
>fashion
>those fuckhuge numbers for idiots

>>61808170
this guy gets it

>>61808174
a gshock is nigger tier

>>61808174
SKX will handle most outdoor things. But if you think you're going to be very rough and want to keep your SKX in better shape a DW5600 is go-to. 40-50 bucks for a watch built around durability.

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>>61808174
dw5600 is all you need g shock wise

>>61808213
How is this nigger tier?

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>>61808238

>>61808146
What happens when you can't charge your pocket cancer every 8 hours?

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Thoughts on this one? May order it Wed

>>61808285
Get the bracelet. Because if you do want it down the road you are going to be paying up.

>>61808285
The hands and crown ruin it for me. The only BB I would consider is the bronze.

>>61808228
>>61808238
I always thought they looked a bit childish. I never knew they were "classics".
I was looking into the metal ones but I don't feel really comfortable.

>>61808285
There are lots of aesthetic things I don't like about the Black Bays but they're certainly good watches and you really can't fault them on quality or anything technical. So if you like how it looks then it's a great choice.

I would suggest always buying a watch on the bracelet and then buying a leather strap separately because if you ever decide you want the bracelet then you're going to have to pay out the ass for it. Having the bracelet will really help resale value one day too, if you ever get tired of it. It's easy to find any leather strap you like, I'm sure there's lots of straps which would closely match that one.

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>>61808285
2 tone thing is not really my type + the crown look ugly.
Same as this >>61808329
Wish the bronze was 40mm

>>61808354
I've never been a fan of bracelets because they always rip my wrist hair out. They have a blue pelagos I'm also looking at.

>>61808571
Maybe you just haven't had an actually good bracelet. I have a few bracelets that don't pull hairs, and it's not like I'm some hairless bitchwrist asian or something.

>>61808571
Most shitty bracelets will do that

>>61808661
I've only had Citizens in bracelets. Everything else I get in nato or rubber typically. Around water a lot.

>>61808808
>Homos wear nomos

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Story time!

Called my local Omega Boutique (San Diego) to inquire about any promotional/showroom art or posters that they would be willing to sell to a 3rd party(me, I collect that stuff). My family has been a customer of theirs for 15 years, bought quite a bit of timepieces from them over that period. Guy immediately tells me in broken, frog-english that they "are a corporate store" and then hangs up on me like I'm some telemarketer. Never going there, and I recommend you guys do the same...

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>>61808210
>diver bezel
>fuckhuge numbers for idiots

it may be an Invicta, but come on goy... try harder

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>>61808894

>>61808285

Get that Invicta color scheme out of here.

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>>61808968
>>61808988
delete this

>>61808988
/r/ing the picture of the rolex with "Swiss Meme"

Anyone have any recommendations for a 20mm Stainless Steel Oyster bracelet?

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>>61808968
>>61808988
It's still a decent watch.

>>61809184
Step 1: Post your image along with ALL information about what it is you're requesting. Once this has been done..

Step 2: Scan though the rest of the messages in /r/ and see if there is anyone that YOU can help out. This is where most fagboats fail.

Step 3: Repeat Step 2 till someone fills your request.

Step 4: Thank the user that filled your request!

>>61809389
I'll make it myself, fucker

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>>61808116
Is this watch good?

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Canadanon:
The 5256 was running around +7 to +13 or so in six positions after 24 hours with an amplitude around 220, as compared to +2 to +9 with a 280+ amplitude with a full wind. Seems obvious a service could tighten up a lot of those times.

The case has a near-mirror finish to it and I suspect it's been polished (it looks like I can see some scuffs near two o'clock, hard to say), but if it has been polished it wasn't a terrible job.

Date change and advance work very well, though the date quickset is pretty stiff - noticeably stiffer than the day change. Is that true on yours?

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>>61808808

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>>61809763

>>61809763
The marks are too deep to get out with a good polish. Trying to get them out would result in overpolishing.

>>61809789
Yeah, I definitely don't intend to try to polish out any marks - just going to leave the case as is.

>>61808894

>calls up a store that supposedly knows him and his family instead of going and asking in person>person on the phone is not only unfamiliar to you but you are unfamiliar to him
>beg for promotional stuff while also trying to sound superior like you deserve it
>guy does the right thing and tells you to fuck off but is somehow in the wrong to you
This story is pants on head retarded and better be a re**it story you are sharing here for us to laugh at.

For my first 'nice' watch I'm thinking of either a speedmaster or a spring drive snowflake.

What is a better option? I think the speedy is more versatile and would get more wear, but I think the snowflake is just a better watch in general.

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>>61809951
Snow frake. Make sure you get the non deprecated version :^)

>>61809951
they're both good. The spring drive is more of a niche option obviously. If you're considering it, I suggest getting it.

Plebeian here who doesn't understand a thing about watches.
Do the Japanese make nice watches? Is there a "Lexus" of watches?

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>>61808808
>Rolex Explorer
>Omega SMP 300
If you don't have the homos, you would be my future me.
Try the Explorer on NATO yet?

>>61810001
Yes, there are nice (grand) seikos out there. Further up there are the credors and independents like hajime aosaka.

>>61810001
Seiko

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>>61810001
Seiko Credor is the top of the line Japanese production watch. Entry level Credor is probably on par with something like a JLC. High complication Credor is very, very good. Grand Seiko is a level below Credor and is often compared to Rolex. It's positioned solidly above Omega in terms of finishing.

Citizen has put out a limited Tourbillon, but besides that their highest end watch is The Citizen Chronomaster, which is often described as being a comparable to but a bit below a Grand Seiko.

There is not much of an independent scene in Japan as compared to Europe - there's Asaoka, but that's about it as far as I know.

>>61809951
>speedmaster
Everyone and their mother have one. 1 vote for Snowflaker

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>>61810071

>>61809750
Very nice condition, and 220 after 24 hours is pretty good. As I said, you could probably get away with just having it regulated rather than full service, but if you don't mind the expense, getting it serviced gives peace of mind.

Also, the date quick-set is like that on all 52xx movements because it winds the mainspring while turning. Most people who don't know about it often mistakenly think the date quick-set is broken.

>>61810071
>but that's about it as far as I know.
Masahiro Kikuno as well.

>>61809951
I would say snowflake. >>61810072 is right but another option could be to get a special edition speedy that is a bit more unique. Just don't get one of those co-axial automatic ones.

>>61810136
Too bad his pieces are forever [not for sale].

>>61810128
Putting 300 into the watch for a service doesn't seem so bad given that I picked it up for what I consider a fair price. I threw it on a black lizard band I had lying around and will wear it for a while first in any case.

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Is this the ultimate watch for someone who only needs one good watch?

>>61810392
I would go datejust

>>61810121
What's that one called and how much does it cost

>>61810423
It's the Fugaku Tourbillon. I believe it's listed at 50 million yen. Jim at Seiko NYC had one for a while - not sure if it's still around (was sent to Miami for a bit for the opening of the boutique there).

>>61810392
a sub is a much better option

I really like watches with turquoise dials.
Does a nice watch exist that has a turquoise dial and isn't a fake of the Milgauss? I can't afford the Milgauss

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>>61810491
found ur problem :^)

>>61810468
Sub doesn't work as well in as many situations.You can push an explorer and a dress watch but you look like a tool doing the same with a sub. You don't really need the 300m water resistance in regular life and if you do you get an actual cheaper dive watch anyway for that purpose if you do that much deep diving.

>>61810452
I think I'd rather have one of those than a Rolex lol.
It's beautiful

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>>61810491

>>61810536
Too bad those are long sold out. And the V2 is coming Eventually™.

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>>61810525
Well it does cost 50x as much as a Rolex so I suppose that makes sense. Can't say I care for the front though.

>>61810548
They show up on WUS every now and then

>>61810556
Meh front looks a bit.. well there's too much. Damn the back looked so great. Are there similar watches like these which are a tad more affordable?

>>61810571
Affordable alternatives to the Fugaku tourbillon? I'm not optimistic - what is it about the watch you want to be similar?

>>61810510
dude a sub is a sub there is a very good reason why it's the most popular Rolex model. it does everything, and if you think a sub looks bad with a suit then you really don't get it.

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>>61810595
pls no

>>61810510
i know underwater welders that use submariners

>>61810595
You're not bond dumbass.

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Federico is no longer at WatchUWant?

>>61810632
Has not been for awhile. Anyone know the juicy story?

>>61810595
Please please please tell me you don't do this. A tool watch in a suit makes you a tool.
>>61810615
I meant a purpose built diver for diving rather than cheaper but both can apply. Nothing wrong with using it for what it's made for just don't try dress it up like a dress watch. An explorer is a far more versatile everyday watch.

>>61810651
From what I've read from Tim's reply at a video (mind you, there were a lot of people asking where Fed was in that video and they deleted a lot of the comments):

WUW moved to Philadelphia. If you notice their new videos, their background is different. Fed chose to stay in Florida.

What's a good Tank style watch, 300-400 range

>>61810656
an explorer is a field watch hence a tool watch. if you are going to make up arbitrary rules for what can be worn with what, then you should follow them yourself.

>>61810693
Its a far better dress watch when compared with a sub. One can easily pass as a dress watch one stands out like a sore thumb.

>>61810392
Am I a badge snob? This looks exactly like a Seiko and I hate Seikos for how they look but this is OK for some reason.

>>61810136
fuck off ninefag

I'm used to wearing 42-43 mm case watches but found a watch I love but it only comes in 39. Will that look silly on my huge wrists?

>>61810737
/g/ - consumerism
And you know why.

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>>61810749
This is what I'm looking at.

>>61810587
The style. I mean the more fancier and somewhat artsy style. I really dig the colors and the motive of the waves

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>watching Dunkirk
>mechanical watch ticking throughout most of the movie for tension
>self-consciously move watch to underside of my wrist
>have to constantly remind myself the sound is coming from the movie

>>61810765
what is your wrist circumference in inches?

>>61810817
Is wrist circumference in any way related to penis length?

>>61810817
8 inches and 5 inch girth

>>61810874
what the fuck is that strap?

>>61811038
Pangolin

What is the patrician number of pieces for a watch collection? I would think it should at least not exceed 10.

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>>61811180
As much as you want. Personally I try to only get pieces which are unique in some way and not redundant compared to the rest of my watches. I wouldn't be that asshole with 12 divers in other words.

>>61811180
Anywhere 3+ imo. 1 dress, 1 everyday, 1 beater. Any more than you it's personal preference like the other lad said and I can respect any collection within reason. A collection of hundreds of different Rolex divers is a cool to me as a collection with 6 watches with no 2 watches that compete for the same spot.

what are some good Seiko field watches? looking for something under 1k.

>>61810765
FC is an overpriced shitter

>>61810796
>not noticing the omegas in the movie

>>61811336
If I may ask what would be the difference between a beater and a everyday watch?
I just started "collecting" so I'm trying to expand my knowledge

>>61811549
depends on how much of a clumsy retard you are

>>61811549
A beater is a watch I would wear doing gardening, at the gym or mountain biking.
A every day watch is the watch I wear to work, to town with the gf ect.
A dress watch is a watch I wear with a suit when I have more important events and meetings to attend and just in general want to look more refined/professional.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mens-Seiko-Silverwave-Quartz-Watch-7546-8340-New-Battery-JDM-Kanji/253075628952?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

should i bid

>>61811593
>>61811618
Thanks a lot

>>61811640
left side of the case looks pretty nasty. Is that corrosion or just grime?

Would not go past $150

>>61811640
That case is kinda shit my dude.

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>>61811670
>>61811684
Oop, didn't even notice, how correct.

Some other filth I'm contemplating

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-King-Quartz-Watch-4823-8130-Just-Serviced/232436554322

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-SEIKO-SILVER-DIAL-7546-8080-ORIGINAL-SEIKO-BRACELT-LOT-76/122629915385

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-SEIKO-TYPE-II-STUNNING-BLACK-DIAL-7546-8000-LOT-16/122633760101

>>61811670
>>61811684
I can't wait to see it on reddit

>>61808146
Because you have a micropenis

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>>61811695
The first one look nice, don't like the rest. The pictures kinda shit though, ask for better pictures if you can, for now it's look okay. Also ask about the service.

>>61810030
>>61810031
>>61810071
Thanks. Another question. To own a watch,do you need to do any maintenance? Following the car analogy, a cars maintenance is changing oil, washing, etc... Is there such things when it comes to watches or can you just let them be without doing maintenance every few weeks/months?

>>61812127
A mechanical watch will in general need servicing every 5 years or so, depending. Quartz watches will too, but most of the time the movement is so cheap it's easier to just replace it rather than service it.

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>>61812127
this >>61812142
But depend on where you live too, if you live in the tropical country where 35C is the norm then 2-3 years servicing is the way to go because the oil will dry faster.
Also depend on what kind of watches, Rolex will often be 5 years where JLC will usually recommend buyer to service it 1-2 years.

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If you could somehow get a seamaster 300 and a speedmaster pro for the same price, which would you get?

>they both have iconic designs, but the speedmaster takes the edge of course; although it is a lot more common and therefore cliché too

>the seamaster 300 is technically the far better watch (sapphire crystal, silicon hairspring, ceramic bezel, 300m water resistance, etc.)

>monetarily, the seamaster 300 is the far better choice, since it normally costs a lot more than the speedmaster

>>61812603
If the 300 didn't have the cuckaxial movement, it'd be that.

>>61812634
Is the co-axial really that terminal if you plan to send it in to Omega for regular servicing anyway?

>>61812660
You'd just get fucked with omega's costs, and the short servicing interval. If it didn't need lubrication like the real daniels or roger smith coaxials, there'd be no problem.

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>>61812634
Afaik most of the criticism voiced against omega's cuckaxial movement pertains to the older movements where they retrofitted the system into ETA ebauches.
The master cuckaxial has only been out for a few years, so it's difficult to tell how it will fare; but at least this time the whole movement is purpose-built around it, so it should be better.

At any rate, the specs on that movement are fantastic (silicon hairspring, 60hr power reserve, full balance bridge, ceramic bearings, 15k gauss magnetic resistance, ...), and it looks tremendous.

It might be cheesy, but I love the fact that the SM300 has a display caseback. You pay thousands for the mechanical wizardry, and it's just nice to be able to actually see the thing at work. Plus, you can't tell it has a display caseback when you're wearing it anyway.

I used to loathe omega, but I really like this watch from its design to its specs.

>>61812718
>silicon hairspring, 60hr power reserve, full balance bridge, ceramic bearings, 15k gauss magnetic resistance

All that shit is great. Now if only the escapement itself wasn't more difficult to oil with no actual benefit over a swiss lever.

>>61812740
Maybe the new movements they made from the ground up won't have this issue.

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>he still hasn't joined

Well?

>>61812849
Unless the pallet fork & coaxial escape wheel doesn't need a tiny amount of lubricating anymore, I doubt it.

>>61812849
We will see.

That Rolex is only 10% over my monthly salary, tempting...
Is there anything better?

>>61812861
>NO BIGOTRY
He is such a God damned cuck!

>>61812963
Define "better". It completely depends on what your criteria are in a watch.

>>61812893
How is the bezel brushed like that?

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So what are one's options in polishing a well-used glass? would toothpaste and cloth just make it uniformly cloudy? Any products I should consider ordering? pic related

>>61813031
If it's acrylic, polywatch.

>>61813038
ok, thanks. and how about mineral?

>>61813006
A lot of cushion-case watches from the 70's like Soviet Amphibias have that radial brushing finish. It looks like sometimes it's just machining marks they left on the case for decoration, and other times it is indeed a brushing. I assume they do this by slowly rotating the case around it's center axis as a rotary brush is working on it.

>>61813092
You can use toothpaste for acrylic. No need to buy anything. For mineral, http://forums.watchuseek.com/f17/how-remove-scratches-mineral-crystal-works-717486.html

>>61813093
Ah, that makes sense. I searched "radial brushed metal" but that was different.

>>61812206
>paying thousands of dollars to pay even more and get the watch taken away from you every couple of years

>>61813136
Yes anon machinery costs money and needs to be maintained. Who woulda thunk?

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>>61813247
why is it that only chinks make cool textured dials/cases

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>>61813291

>>61813305
I don't mean guilloche, I mean something like the snowflake or that hammered case or those penisquartzes

>>61813327
Beats me, I'm sure there are swiss examples of stamped/textured dials like that, but none come to mind.

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>>61813336
Actually, if linen dials count, there were a number of rolexes with them.

>>61813364
Linen dials is pretty dope. As well as tapestry >>61811984

>>61813223
I understand how this work and that's why I'm barely interested in watches anymore, and I'm happy with my small selection of shitters. Don't get me wrong watches are fascinating, but it's very expensive and a pain in the ass. Where I live the closest watch repair people are a couple countries away, even if I save up and get one watch for the rest of my life it'll still be finnicky, eventually the parts will start running out, etc.
I prefer jewely or other mementos that don't require such intensive maintenance and as such I choose to admire watches from a distance

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>>61813327

>>61813412
thats also guilloche senpai

>>61811695
>all Suwa Seikosha watches
>not the superior Daini Seikosha
Why even bother?

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>>61813539
How about a suwa caliber built by daini?

>>61813539
What and what?

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>>61813534
Still a nice texture.

I can't wear metal. Is there a decent watch that I could wear?

>>61813595
I was looking at some interesting ceramic watch but forgot what it was. Is there any specific metal you can't wear?

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>>61813327
Bark

>>61813595
Why not?
If it is because it gets your wrist cold there's always nylon, perlon and leather nato straps.
And if it is because the weight, there's always superslim pieces.

>>61813604
My skin is sensitive enough that pretty much everything that isn't tungsten carbide or titanium.

>>61813621
Plenty of titanium watches.

>>61813621
I'm retarded. My skin is sensitive enough that anything that isn't tungsten carbide or titanium causes my skin to peel and blister and eats at the metal a little.

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Its on sale for like $8 bucks
will it tip my fedora and suffice my non-outdoors activities?

>>61813633
plenty of ceramic watches but most of them are collector/exclusive pieces

>>61813640
just buy the strap and put it on a ROLEX STEEL SPORTS ROLEX

>>61812861
I refuse to spend my leisure time discuss anything where I can't call people faggots.

>>61813595
>muh metal allergies
It's not because they're metal, it's because they're shitty chink pot metal. Also you're probably filthy.

i need some strap recommendations for the sarb033

>>61813595
What the fuck are you talking about. Unless you are part of the very rare subset of the population that is allergic to nickel or chromium then its bullshit. Also you can wear watches that don't contain those elements. Brass, gold, platinum watches and titanium all come to mind.

>>61813988
S U P E R O Y S T E R

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Why does the Sarb033 a 38MM watch look as big as a 43mm seiko monster?

>>61813997
So, decent titanium watch?

>>61814051
It doesn't though. That and the height of the watches could be messing with the perspective here, even if slightly.

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>>61814051
Dial to case ratio dumb dumb.

>>61808180
Eat less.

>>61808282
But I can.

>>61814051
The dial is larger, as well as more of a solid color.

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>>61814070

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>costs 1/1000th of a rolex
>is 1000x more accurate
>but there are people who would buy a rolex because they think people will admire them for it

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Why does seiko put the 4r36 in this ugly fat watch and charge the same amount for it as they do for the skx. Why won't they upgrade the skx movement?

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>>61814272
>costs 1/1000th of a mansion
>is 1000x more more energy efficient
>but there are people who would buy a mansion because they think people will admire them for it

>>61814272
I bet you look really classy wearing the terrorist watch with an english suit, pure class.

>>61814304

>such bad analogy

lol a correct one would be somebody spending a million on a tent made of gold thread instead of a perfectly good mcmansion

>>61814335
he was comparing a cheap basic digital watch to a well made beautiful and accurate mechanical watch.

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>>61813571
They are the 2 different design houses within Seiko that competed with each other. Daini made the best movements, whereas Suwa were a bit more experimental. The Suwa 56xx movements have a problem with the plastic date quickset wheel perishing, Daini 52xx don't have that issue.

All my vintage Seikos are Daini watches.

Chunky Canuck could elaborate more.

>>61813595
Most non metal watches will have a metal caseback anyway.

>>61814345

except the cheap basic digital watch is 1000x more accurate than a 'well made' rolex

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>>61813988

>>61814438
i'll keep ebay scouring.

Too bad I'm poor. I actually live in Japan yet it's cheaper for me to buy vintage seikos overseas.

>>61814491
Look on Yahoo.jp auctions.

>>61814506
I do but hate using the site / too much garbage on it anyway. Some irl dealers are okay. http://cticorp.jp/ can be a fun visit.

>>61814304
>>61814478
How inaccurate do you think Rolex watches are?

The meme of the 5 dollar quartz watch losing 1 second every decade is retarded. I have enough shitty digital watches to know 10-20 seconds a month is probably the normal loss.

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>>61810737
It looks sort of similar to several Seikos, but obviously not exactly the same. It's a simple watch without being """minimalist""" and it gets all the details just right, that's why it looks good.

>>61814655
It has a lot of subtle differences that warrant the price difference. Explorer 1 36mm is one of the all time greats.

Does anyone know where i can try on the skx watches and the gen 2 monster before i buy them?

>>61814478
Rolex is regulated to 60 seconds per month. A cheap digital is probably 15-30 seconds per month.

>>61814843

> 60 seconds per month

a f91w can do half that is a year so about 24x as accurate at 1/1000th of the price i.e. 24000x better cost/performance.

>>61814913
If you're claiming you have an f91w that's accurate to 30spy you've gotten lucky, plain and simple (kind of like canadanon's datejust that's been at +/- 0 for three months or whatever it is).

If you're evaluating quality as accuracy/price, I'm afraid some of the CSAC pieces that have come out recently will win - 1 second per millennium at less than 1000x the price of your f91w.

>>61814986

>http://watchguy.co.uk/my-most-accurate-watch-the-casio-f-91w-2/

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PkaQUGhLlw

>http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/casio-f-91w-443012.html

these guys are all lucky too?

>>61810796
I must know what strap this is, where can I buy it?

>>61815056
You cant even set the time that accurately so the variation of the time you set and actual time will increase. Even if you set the time a fraction of a second off.

>>61815122
Don't forget the guy whose f-91 was only 7 minutes off after it was buried in his parents' garden for 20 years.

>>61814986
What atomic wristwatch do you have

>one of the ebay shits i linked earlier sold

is that so

>>61809951
The Snowfrake is far more special. Both the movement, finishing and dial are on a different league compared to the Speedmaster.


However you can also get a vintage Speedmaster quite cheaper when you're buying vintage, and some of the vintage models look better than the new ones. But you can't get a vintage Snowfrake for cheap, there's no such thing.

So, save a bit more, get the Snowfrake new, and if you still crave the Speemaster, get a vintage one. Best of both worlds.

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>>61815122
>moving the goalposts

here enjoy the illusion of luxury as you pay through the nose for a chuck of stainless steel that can't keep up with chinkshit watch

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Can the Lord Matic (pictured) pass as a dress watch?

Would only wear it on formal occasions.

>>61814709
anyone?

>>61815291
By the book no, but irl it would be the least offensive watch of the party. I'd say go for it.

what's the best watch I can get with £200, i dont like big diving watches or chronographs ill never use

>>61812718
The problem is that the movement would unquestionably be improved by eliminating the fundamentally flawed (in production watches) co-axial escapement, and yet The Swatch Group has stuck with its fundamentally flawed implementation of the co-axial escaepement because realizing a return on their marketing investment is much more important to them than the quality or durability of your watch.

Omega's co-axial escapement is far inferior by every criteria than a traditional Swiss lever escapement of equal quality would be.

>>61813539
Actually, Suwa would probably be superior for quartz, as it was the Suwa side of the company that spearheaded the development of quartz wristwatch movements and later on also spearheaded springdrive. To this day, Seiko Epson still makes quartz components for GS movements actually.

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>>61814272
Filtered :^)

>>61815291
On leather it will be a lot closer than most people ever get to wearing an actual dress watch.

Just be aware that is Lord Matic 56xx and as such is a pretty low-end 21,600 bph movement and will have a high risk of day/date quickset failure due to a plastic piece in the mechanism that tends to shrink and crack due to age rather than wear.

>>61815291
that case finishing is rough my man.. probably not the best dress watch

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Good morning wt

>>61815291
You would be better off with something that had neither day nor date, but it is far better than a diver.

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>>61815674
Very cool watch. I'd have cropped the photo though.
Last thread made me want to pull this one out of the box this morning.

>>61815674
Your thumb in on the lens

>>61814071
Nah, I own an orange monster, and it does wear smaller than it's size.

The lugs are really tight into the case, it has the same lug-to-lug distance of many 38mm watches, despite being over 41mm.

>>61815748
I suppose. Perhaps next time.

>>61815768
Hey i am really trying to deicde between the second gen monster and the skx. How large are your wrists, how does it wear, and do you like it?

>>61808180
kill it with fire. the macfag watch and the ham beast it's on

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>>61815674
Very nice.

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>>61815880
6 1/2 inch wrist.

It's really nice, comfortable-wearing, a bit heavy, but that doesn't bother me. It looks bigger in pictures.

I would definitely get it over the SKX, and I would go for the orange again.

>>61809230
Yeah Rolex makes some nice ones.

>>61815094
https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32730374911.html

>>61812603
I'd get both a vintage sea master and a vintage speed master, and service them.

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>>61812893
Gets me hard everytime.

>>61814438
I don't know how the fetishism with Daini came to be.

Suwa was chosen at the time to produce the Grand Seikos and Suwa came up with the conception, design, prototyping and production of the Spring Drive, the most unique and innovative Seiko movement.

Not to mention that Suwa came up with quartz as well, turning the whole industry upside down and making watches affordable to everybody. And kept pushing the boundaries with thermocompensated quartz in Grand Seiko quarters.

Not that Daini was a slacker, but they were similar/equivalent movements at best, bot heaven and hell as memes would have you believe.

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>>61817720

GO BE A FUCKING NERD SOMEWHER ELSE THIS IS NOW A ROLEX THREAD

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>>61817720
Don't worry, I love my suwa too

>>61808894

>go in store
>try on some watches
>get brochures
>get rolex hat

Why not try actually going into the store and talking to people instead of being a weirdo making demands on the phone like you did reddit.

>>61810392

Explorer or Explorer ii is the only correct answer

>>61810874

literally a wrist fedora

>>61817720
Tanaka Taro was a Daini employee and basically invented Seiko's styling. If you're a mechfag too it's not hard to see how they remain so popular.

>>61812861
>>61813930
>>61812981

>not joining and posting about how the springbars broke on your shitty invicta or justifying to other faggots why a Grand Seiko 5 should be $5000 or telling everyone you bought 10 seikos this year

top lyl

>>61817142
Is that the actual strap? did you take the pic I originally replied to?

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>>61810392
Yeah either an Explorer or the Explorer II. The Explorer goes better with a suit and is more understated, but the Explorer II obviously has more functionality as a travelers watch.

I hope to own a 1016 or a 14270 one day. I have a 16570 currently and I like it a lot and while it passes in a suit I do want something a tad more formal as well. Hoping to one day add either the Explorer or a Vacheron Constantin dress piece.

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>>61818293
Yes, bro.

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>>61810392
Milgauss or Datejust are the patrician one watch Rolexes imo. Can't stand the Explorer II btw, what's the deal with all the love for it here? What am I not getting about it? If you want a sports Rolex with 24h hand why not the GMT Master?

>>61817720
>I don't know how the fetishism with Daini came to be.
Because Daini was clearly head and shoulders a superior mechanical movement designer, and as >>61818169 points out, Diani developed the grammar of design styling language.

>>61818927
The Milgauss is awesome. The only modern one I'm a fan of though is the White dial. The orange just clashes too much with the other designs. People love the explorer II because they have gobbled a bit too much ARCHIBALD CHESTERFIELD III penis, because they have poor taste, and because it is relatively cheap.

>>61818927
>Milgauss is great because of its unique design
>Explorer II is bad because of its unique design
???

>>61810720
That's like your opinion, man.

>>61819460
>Milgauss is great because of its unique, good design
>Explorer II is bad because of its unique, abysmal design
Well there you have it.

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What are the top 5 shilled watches here?

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My first automatic watch ever. The 4r36 movement is retardedly good. I average +/- 3 seconds on my SRP773 and I've had it for about a year now.

Saving up for a marinemaster 300 now.

>>61819628
SARB033
DAINI SEIKOSHA
Rolex explorer 36mm

The rest are minor.

>>61815256

Please be trolling or are you just clinically retarded? You still on the shit about a your grand seiko 5 being a better buy at $5000 than a Rolex?

>>61819723

>no skx007/9
>no F-91w
>no Vostok

>>61819701

I just got a 1981 6309-7040 in great shape, this old ass movement was just serviced and runs great. Honestly you seem to be a wristlet so I would consider possibly something else for $2000 instead of the mm300. Maybe a second hand Speedy reduced that isnt cuckaxial or a 36mm explorer.

>>61819858
Everyone has them, but who shills them?

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>>61820053
The SKX007/009 get shilled pretty hard around here. It is still the cheapest ISO certified dive watch and a lot of people really like the highly functional appearance.

I pretty much doubled the cost of mine having a 6r15c and a sapphire crystal put in because it's one of the very few dive watches I actually like.

>>61820099
god im so fucking torn right now. I keep looking at the skx and the monster gen 2. The monster gen 2 is has a nice bracelet already and the 4r36 and costs 200 dollars.. the skx is so much nicer looking but would require an nh35 a new crown and a super oyster before really being the same category.

BUT IT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER.. .WHICH ONE DO IT GET FUCK

>>61820317
shitter problems

>>61815674
been wanting one of these, bad, but I also don't want one if the condition is so rough, it looks worse off than a new mid-range seiko.

yours looks quite nice

>>61814482
where can I get that strap ?

>>61821166
Lurk Yahoo jp auctions - I waited about 3 months for one in good condition to sell at a decent price, which isn't too bad. I recommend zenmarket though of course lots of people use buyee so that's an option too.

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>>61819607
thanks for explaining it to me

>>61819607
Are we talking about vintage or modern here? Both vintage Milgauss and Explorer II are top tier because Rolex wasn't afraid to play around a bit. Modern Milgauss is just a color-clashing Datejust sans date, and Explorer II is literally just a Submariner with another bezel and extra hand.

>>61810392
>Is this the ultimate watch for someone who only needs one good watch?

Yeh that's what I'm getting

36mm Explorer is the best Rolex oyster case watch

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Finally got my wonderful Seiko 5. Thank you for the recommendation /wt/!

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>>61815748

"Just magnificent"

>>61822524
too much irony for one photo

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>>61816272

"The Seiko Orange Monster is a piece de resistance, or since I'm Italian let's use two words - 'Japanese Perfezione'.

It's a two hundred dollar bargain, just a shade below the best of Switzerland. Although it's 42mm it wears a lot smaller and the orange dial is equally at home at the beach or in the corporate boardroom."

>>61808170
this is a great value. NH35A hackable movement is a bang for 85 bucks with the whole watch. Plus you can always mod the watch and make it your own.

Only downside is the awful invicta logo on the side of the case.

looking good, please post photos after the necrosis sets in.

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>>61822524

What kind of animal is this?

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>>61822524
>No other sizes of this image found.

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>>61822524

>Irish "people"

>>61822657
This is just a boring rehash of le fedora meme.

>>61822908
I convinced my girlfriend and all of my closest friends that the Irish are in fact not human beings biologically.

>>61822524
You need to order one more to get the band go all the way around those wrists.
I wouldn't have thought it was possible to devour a wrist watch with your fatty hands.

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>>61822524
Holy fuck

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>>61822524

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>>61822524
>Reverse image search brings nothing up
What the actual fuck.

Where is the best place to buy an skx013? Cheaper preferably.

>>61822524
WTF fat grandpa.

>>61822524
fucking potatoes

>>61809759
For me, it's HOMOS.

>>61822524
You lads need another "great" famine

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>>61809738
I found it

>>61823811
even the watch says HOMOS, how can anyone deny it

>>61824986
I can tell from the pixels

>>61825035
how can anyone deny it

>>61820099

who put the movement in for you?

>>61825148
I bought the watch from Artifice Horoworks and got them to do the mods, as well as making sure the chapter ring and bezel were perfectly aligned, before they sent it to me.

>>61825198

Thanks la

>>61825198
6r15 only has month day though not the day of the week.

>>61825252
>6r15 only has month day though not the day of the week.
What

6R15 has date.

6R20 has day and date.

>>61825252
Mods nigga

>>61820099
>>61825198

Doesn't it basically lose ISO certification if you fuck around with it like that?

>>61825310
Surely you could just get a watchmaker to pressure test it?

>>61825310
>Implying ISO certification matters in this day and age
Maybe 50 years ago when you were timing something like areal navigation or the speed that your driver just took through a corner, but this is the modern age where ISO certification is pretty useless except for the very few people who still use their watches as tools.

>>61825310
In a way. But really, there's no reason it wouldn't pass again, unless we were to find out that the new movement fails shock or magnetic resistance.

>>61825198
>phone rings, it's a Toronto area code
>pick up and say hello
>long pause
>hear in the background the unmistakable sound of a 20-pack of Timbits being opened
>rattly heavy breathing
>h-hello good day sir I am calling to inquire about p-possibly investing in a timepiece to add to my D-DDAINI SSSSEIKOSHA collection
>cringe and try not to fall asleep as he drones on and on about how the SKX007 is a vastly underappreciated horological masterpiece
>hear the entire history of Seiko diving watches and the rivalry between Suwa Seikosha and "based" Daini Seikosha
>even throws in a rant about coaxial escapements and Omega bracelets being made in China
>finally confirm his order and am about to hang up
>ONE LAST THING... I EXPECT THE CHAPTER RING AND BEZEL TO HAVE PERFECT ALIGNMENT
>yes sir, we always make sure we put our watches together properly
>AND I NEED EXTRA BRACELET LINKS *click*
>continue receiving phone calls every single day until we ship out the watch

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My next watch is going to be a Explorer 1, saving up money until then

>>61825361
>50 years ago
ISO 6425 is only 21 years old by the way. And it was very important in its time.

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>>61825382

>>61825361
ISO certification is for water resistance and a few other things that make a watch suitable for use as a diving watch, I'm pretty sure it doesn't include anything about accuracy. The SKX is certainly no chronometer anyway from the factory.

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>>61825390
>>61825404
Oh god I was confusing ISO with COSC. Disregard that, I suck cocks.

What's a good, rugged mechanical watch for field use? I had a G-Shock, but it broke. I used to use an f91w, but I'd like to have a nicer bit of kit while I'm out competing. Just a little luxury, you know?

>>61825461
If you're being rough enough to destroy a g-shock you should probably just get another g-shock, it will last the longest.

>>61825461
There's the victorinox inox which iirc is pretty durable. Not a mechanical but it does have an analog dial.

>>61810392
Where is the absolute cheapest I can buy a new, post-2016 Explorer? Best I've seen is $5900 so far.

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>>61825461
Vostok Amphibia or SKX007. Just keep in mind though that mechanical watches are inherently fragile since they have tiny gears and other shit inside, and don't really like taking heavy beatings.
I'd just say get a more rugged G-Shock, diver, or maybe something like a Timex expedition.

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>>61825382
Actually I bough the bracelet from StrapCode separately, also Tim Hortons is utter trash.

Also I'm still annoyed that no one Madea double AR crystals for the SKX. I'm actually considering inquiring at a few lens coating companies to see if they'll double AR a crystal to order.

>>61825589
Why do all this bullshit to a $200 diver?

>>61825514
>he wants to pay $6k for a pigfat 214270 when a 114270 in excellent condition is like $4k or less
Try Bob's Watches I guess, I had a good experience with them. They have some of the pre-2016 Trump 214270s for like $5200, but you'll probably have to wait a while before the new ones start to appear on the used market.

I also went to a store and compared the 214270 and 114270 and didn't really like the new one, to be honest. The lume is great but it just looks worse in pretty much every other aspect. I would suggest trying them on.

>>61825616
36mm is just too small.

>>61825611
>why do all this bullshit for a watch you like?
ftfy

>>61825485
G-Shock got destroyed in a freak accident involving a bad round, a friend with bad habits, and my watch on the shooting bench. It basically had a round explode under it. 1 in a million kinda incident.

>>61825664
>36mm is just too small.

Is this you? >>61822524

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>>61825664
>not man enough to dwarf a 36mm watch

>>61825692
Man why can't they make a new Explorer with that typeface? Square numbers rarely ever look good.

>>61825723
Yea the new sporty typeface used on the gmt's and explorer is invicta tier.

>>61825692
the 19 whatevers called they want their watch size back.

but seriously, it's 2017. be mindful of the current state at least. 39 mm is still very conservative.

>>61825723
Knowing nu-Rolex, maybe they'll make the next Explorer have the same style and proportions of the 1016 except in 42mm, solid platinum, and for $30,000.

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>>61825794
>same style and proportions of the 1016 except in 42mm, solid platinum, and for $30,000.

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>>61825794
Please no.

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>>61825382

>>61825794
God i hope not but i can honestly see this happening. If only they did re-release a 1016 explorer again and possibly.. i know this is pushing it but a thin and light 38 or 40 mm sub with no lug guards .. no Rolex in the chapter ring and no text but the rolex crown logo and the word submariner in red with maybe a depth rating only in meters.

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Too big of a case? At 43mm currently, considering going down to a 37 that is similar. Seiko SNE361

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>>61825779
This used to be what a big watch for tough manly men looked like, now every bitchwrist twink and beached whale walks around with a dinner plate hanging off their wrist. Even LBJ would swing around his foot-long dick with a 36mm Day-Date strapped to his wrist. What went wrong?

>>61825611
I didn't buy the SKX because it was cheap. I bought it because it's one of the very few diver designs I like, so I was perfectly happy to spend the money to improve several aspects of it.

>>61825925
Honestly probably the only reasonable modification on the only acceptable watch to do this on. Only other mod i can think of that is not a total waste of money is a better lume and regulation for an amphibian.

>>61825922
SO MUCH THIS. I remember as a kid only fucking massive guys would rock a sub and it looked massive compared to other watches. Now faggots are saying 43mm is fine on a sub 7 inch wrist. I can't even fucking take it anymore.

>>61825968
average watch size is 40-42mm

>>61826030
>>61826030

>>61825916
post from side, looking down arm

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From side.

>>61826265
It's about all right. I wouldn't go with much bigger lug to lug unless it the lugs were even more curved than these.