/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>61787325
glomf

Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.

I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.

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Posting the best budget cans available.

>>61787534
Nah, nigga. That's my gig!

>>61787570
My bad dude, just trying to spread the love for these.

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>>61787626
Welcome home Sennshill-kun!

Watch your step! Don't hurt yourself with those "poorly sealed" and "debunked" no-bass frequency graphs!

>>61787626
:^) avoid ptsd from "poor seals" and headband snapping: dont buy the hd600s.

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>>61787662
>>61787663

>>61787700
Hey, it WAS you who posted them! Man, I didn't even know you posted this long! Hey man, if you want, we can stop bothering you about your $300 poorfag headphone. You look pretty agitated.

>>61787700
>The grapes represent the value of the headphones
Top jej

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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-koss-porta-pro-x-headphones?mode=guest_open

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>>61787700
>Implying I want meme cans when I have top of the line loudspeakers with actual bass and treble.

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>>61787700
>>61787771
>The fox represents the shill who doesn't even own the headphones
>Pic
Hey man, by the way, have you bought them yet?

>>61787789
>I spent all of my money on speakers so I have to live in a fucking cuckshed

lmao'ing at your life priorities

>>61787779
I mean, it's kinda neat. Is saving $14 really worth waiting that long though?

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>1 month ago
>not liking the HD 600 is the contrarian opinion
>today
>liking the HD 600 is the contrarian opinion

wtf I love HD 600 now

>>61787807
>The house I own is a cuckshed.

Don't worry, maybe one day you'll be a functioning human being and be able to afford nice things in your own living space.

>>61787807
>So poor he can't afford speakers that BTFO whatever poorfag headphones anon owns
Lmaoing at your life

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>61787853
put the trip back on

>>61787835
DiPolar samefagging like a motherfucker doesn't suddenly make it a contrarian opinion. Remember, we caught him posting the same HD650/HE400 image he always posts with the trip on, but with the trip off.

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Looking for headphones for someone with a very, very small head, if anyone has experience.

I've never worn a pair of headphones that could fit without way too much extra space, so they always sag and are uncomfortable. I'm using Superlux HD 681's right now and they are almost small enough but not very comfortable, my hair catches on where the pads meet the top part, and they put too much pressure where they touch under my ears cause they don't rest on top of my head. I had Sony MDR CD somethings that they don't make anymore that were too large as well. Thought those felt alright, though. Those cheap headphone mics that came with the xbox 360 were massive on me.

Looking for something super comfortable first and foremost, and greatly prefer closed headphones. Budget is loosely under $100. Looking for them just for music and just general use on my computer. Also I live in the US.

Thank you.

/g/'s opinions on the taket h2+. Are the earpad/earrest things too uncomfortable for extended use?
And how are these headphones with multimedia, and gaming?

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>>61787947
HD600

>>61787414
What kind of bait is this

>>61787920
>>61787940
>So poorfag he can't afford a samefag detector
Lmao. Spot the poorfag, ya poorfaggot shill

>>61787947
>Super comfy first
SHP9500S if you want overall comfiness, but they're open. Otherwise, Status Audio CB-1s but its build is questionable.

>>61787947
Brainwavz HM5

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>>61787964
Forgot pic

>>61787947
>>61787989
Seconding this statement.

>>61788010
nice inspect element there faggot, now put the fucking trip back on

>>61787940
>WAE CAUGHT HIM
>same file name

Wow really? Someone posted an image with the same file name? That means its me right?

Didn't I btfo you fucks with a screenshot because you can't into inspect element?

>>61787989
>>61788008
>>61788062
Thank you for your suggestions. Can anyone say if they will fit a small head? I'll probably have to take a gamble anyway, but it would be nice to know.

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>>61788075
>Inspect element
Lmao. What a pity fucking excuse.

Now go buy yourself some speakers, you poorfag

>>61788127
>m-m-muh speakers
Not an argument.

>>61788133
>m-m-muh samefagging tripfag
Did you ever have one?

>>61788111
The Cb-1s should be fine, the shp-9500s aren't too wide but idk how small we're talking.

Also consider the ath-m40x

>>61788111
Headlet asian here; The 9500S and HM5 fits my head. Am wearing the 9500 at size 3.

REMINDER THAT THE HD600 IS THE SECOND BEST HEADPHONE IN EXISTENCE, THE FIRST SPOT BELONGS TO THE HE 1.

>>61788280
kek

Objective2 or Magni 2 for DT 990 Pros?

>>61788318
HD600

>>61788318
Fulla 2.

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>>61788334

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>>61788349
>tumblr

>>61788368
>T-t-tumblr
Surprise! I put as much effort as your recommendation :^)

Nice try, though

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>https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf
>https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSRH1840.pdf
Why doesn't anyone talk about these headphones? Frequency chart looks similar to the HD600, looks even flatter actually but has the same lack of bass.

Holy shit the distortion though, dunno how apparent that would be when listening though. I'm incredibly tempted because I already have the 1540s and I'm in love with the build quality, but it has even more distortion than the 1540s.

i am incredibly tempted.

>>61788514
Find a place to listen to it and report back. It looks well built and comfortable, with the ungodly distortion being the only downside. I know I personally listen at 60dB so it might not matter for someone like me.

>>61788514
The distortion figure on the SRH1540 looks like it is exacerbated by the measurement technique, THD+N compared to THD. The midrange-treble distortion should be better than shown.
Not so much the SRH1840. It's performance is basically that.

As to whether it constitutes a problem, likely yes.

I have $70 to spare and want to buy some earbuds for use with my laptop and iPod Classic. Wat do?

>>61788821
You buy kz zs5 and an upgraded braided cable for them and enjoy the music my friend.

What are the best, comfortable, and most importantly, noise-canceling headphones under 200 USD?

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>>61788836
Ayy I was about to add that I'd prefer a braided cable. Thanks, guy

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>>61788836
top kek

can you recommend any neutral iems that are cheap? (under $40)

>>61788514
THD measurements are not a reliable indicator of audibility:
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_I.pdf
http://gedlee.azurewebsites.net/Papers/Distortion_AES_II.pdf
> In our next paper we will show that .01% THD of one type of nonlinear system can be perceived as unacceptable while 10% THD in another example is perceived as inaudible. Even one of these simple examples is sufficient to invalidate THD as a viable metric for discussion of the perception of distortion. Furthermore, 1% THD is not at all the same as 1% IM, but we will show that neither correlates with subjective perception.
>These results supported the skepticism that THD and IMD metrics were poor predictor of subjective perception of sound quality ratings.

Best iems under a $100?

>>61789010
>more THD is good
Anon, you dig this hole every time.

>>61789010
So how many articles do I have to bury you in to prove you wrong concerning your meme study that led to absolutely nothing?

>>61788931
Sad to say it's hard to recommend anything for that price that's neutral. The zs5 is v shaped but not to any extreme that makes the mids completely recessed. They sound clear over.

That being said, the cheapest I'm that I would consider neutral are the etymotic mc2.

>>61788931
if you can bump up by 10 dollars, you can pick up a pair of HiFiMAN RE-400; if you win the build quality lottery, you get a pretty neutral IEM for 50 bucks (on Amazon US). No experience under 40 dollars, sorry

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>be magni2u and hd800 guy
>be bully for having shit tier meme amp with god tier phones
>remember that it wuz anons who told me to get amp cuz flavor of the month
>feel sad
>research head amps
>decide to get god tier violectric v280
>come up with plan
>violectric had 25% off sale black friday 2016
>means v280 will be around $1325 end of November
>figure I can suffer, no enjoy, my meme amp for ~4 months for substantial burgerbuxx savings

Deus vult!

>>61789435
Post receipt pussy, you won't.

>>61789435
If you had no problems with it (aside from bullying), why change now?

So i just bought the oppo pm3s. They sound like shit. What a DAP help?

>>61789556
The magni was always intended as a cheap "stop gap" solution with replacement within a year. My setup, as it is. is perfected and sounds great, for now.

>>61789583
No. You need a parametric EQ. I'd suggest a -4 dB below 300hz, a dip at 7K, and boosted highs above 12K by any amount of your choosing.

>>61788889
I am looking at the Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO, 250 ohms for this purpose. I don't know jack shit about amps, what amp and other stuff should I even get? I have a cheap guitar amp (Behringer um2) that has a headphone monitor. Could I use that?

Are the HD800s good?

>>61789757
Yeah, they're sennheisers best headphone that isn't $50K

>>61789757
>1k treble cannons

>>61789834
That's 1.5k for you poorfag.

>>61789757
Since I acquired my HD800's, my day is as follows...
>wake up
>think about HD800s
>mow lawn
>think about what to play on my HD800s
>eat dinner
>think about HD800s
etc., etc.,.... My listening time is a couple of hours a night, like right now.

>>61789870
I'm taking about the HD800S not the HD800.

is there a better site than rutracker to try and navigate for music downloads

im fucking lost and i can't even figure out how to make an account. Google translate is breaking the site.

>>61789903
Irrelevant. I EQ rather than use a resonator, whether it is built in or mod.

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>>61789922
Are you retarded?

>>61789186
Most of those papers you dug out use distortion to characterize systems without reference to audibility. One of those papers wasn't even referring to harmonic distortion, but phase shift. THD still tells you plenty about the system behavior, it's still a useful metric for characterizing the device.
There's audio wisdom* of odd and even order; we can at least do a better job weighting how bad it sounds. Subjectively, it would really be better to use a filter bank with a masking model.

Doesn't change the fact that the other guy is a relentless shitposter. Geddes uses arbitrary functions that don't relate to headphone nonlinearity. Now that is part of Geddes' point, but his weighting function hasn't caught on because:
>Geddes is more ego than anything else
>The model is way too simple


For a more serious look into distortion analysis, here's one on loudspeakers.
>https://mega.nz/#!nM80jJAQ!oGqxIn-ecICqfWJrkU0JQSXtNKxQp6H7GZbhY0AKg6w

>>61789922
try soulseek client

>>61789963
google translate is not letting me get to that page myself

i'll just go without it and use your translation

>>61790064
I'm using google translate and it works.

whats a good portable dac in the 100-300 price range to pair with oppo pm3s. Needs to have a replaceable battery because the lifespan of lithium ion batteries is not long.
Also, will an external dac work with my galaxy,note 3?

>>61789922
You don't even need an account.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=love+live+site%3Arutracker.org&t=ffab&ia=web

rutracker is a great source for vinyl rips. mad russians are pushing 32bit float wavpack now.

the hd650 looks like it has a flatter frequency response than the hd600, i don't get it

is the weaker treble that significant?

>>61790110
>Also, will an external dac work with my galaxy,note 3?
Yes. But I figure you really mean a DAC/amp combo.
>whats a good portable dac in the 100-300 price range to pair with oppo pm3s.
May as well consider a separate music player while you are at it.
Why though? If you're doing this because because you don't like the PM3 sound, this won't do anything to change that.

>>61790154
oh ok silly me, i'll just do that

dunno what rutracker has against me, either being a canuck or my plugins are messing the registration+google translate up

>>61787414
are you retarded?

Why would someone purposely choose MMCX connectors for modding their headphones with detachable cables? Purely space constraints with the existing design already?

i'm looking around TH-X00 cable mods and apparently some people choose to have a connector designed for IEMs for their headphone.

>>61790307
Mmcx is somewhat of a standard so nice looking cables are cheaper and more common.

>>61787962
>>61790289
He's a retard but read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_loss

>>61790334
>>61790289
>>61790334
>not recognizing rotational velocidensity pasta
Please tell me you're reverse baiting

>>61790430
>Not filling your hard drive with helium to prevent this

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End game

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>/hpg/ is degenerate

>>61790563
Is there any way I can buy those thick cables, and do they come in 3.5mm options? I hear the thicker the cables are, the better they sound

>>61789583
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/

>>61789649
Beyerdynamic Custom Studios are highly preferable to DT770s.

>>61790605
Thicker cables are made that way only for anal pleasure. You won't get better sound out of them.

If I have the HD 202, what's a good upgrade for them? I'm a poorfag 3rd worlder but if I can get something better less than $60 I'd consider making the investment.

>>61790563
>muh 1" thick cables
>hangs reflective object next to his head with open headphones

>>61790656
$60 burning a hole in your pocket already? Just keep saving your money, poorfag

>>61790656
SHP9500S if can catch them on sale

Im going to buy the ath ad1000x, but I need a reccomendation on a good attachable microphone for it.

>>61790781
>no detachable cable
Modmic is your only real option.

>>61790754
I don't really need to get new headphones but if there's a decent upgrade for little money I'll take it.
>>61790772
Thank you.

>>61790801
Ok, thanks. Would you reccomend 4 or 5?

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END GAME RIGHT HERE BOIS:

>>61790213
I like them but they sound a little bit lacking on my phone compared to how they sound on my PC.

>>61790847
Woulda been better off spending $190 on a better headphone and skipping the dac/amp IMO.

>>61789583
I thought they sound great what dont you like about them?

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For my 2017 Tax return I plan on getting a Decent amp as this Magni 2 looks out of place on my desk as well as another pair of headphones and would like to know which of the two if at all either which i should get

Sennheiser HD650 or Monoprice M1060

>Budget
3-500
>Location
South Carolina
>Source
PC to Amp Via Optical
>Type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Preferable but can suffer
>Sound signature
I Don't know
>Past headphones
Pioneer SE-505, Pioneer Monitor 10, Pioneer Monitor 10 II, Beyerdynamic DT880 from the 1980s, AKG K701

>>61790847
>spending more on the dac/amp than the headphones
Don't do that

>>61791025
additionally I'd like to know what kind of amp I should get

>>61787325
I want to lick her legs

>>61791025
>>61791080
HD650 + NFB-11.28

>>61791025
The planars

>>61791112
>NFB-11.28

The DAC out could be run to my Receiver Correct

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>>61787789
>Not using a CRT

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>>61791203
not him but I do

>>61791152
Yes

>>61791281
cool beans

>>61791263
That looks comfy as shit

>>61788318

DT 1990

Unless of course, you're a poorfag with no taste , then get sennheisers.

>>61791203
Funny story, my friend had a Sony Trinitron crt that he used for PC gaming. I will admit, I was stupid impressed by the color reproduction, response time and obnoxiously high pixel density (this was before 4k was a thing, highest resolution you could get was 1600p outside of that low refresh rate Ibm monitor.

Too bad it weighed almost 200 pounds and cracked his desk in half a few weeks into owning it.
>>61791025
I vote for the planars, considering you own a lot of dynamic headphones as it is. For amps, a schiit stack or O2 amp/dac combo would be a solid choice.

>>61791117
>>61791112
>>61791281
>>61791321
Also Would it be worth getting anything more headphones seeing as I cannot Hear over 16KHz

>>61791303
Thanks

>>61791343
I mean, have you been to an audiologist and they've confirmed that's where your hearing loss is at? Most young adults can still hear up to 18-19khz and it's mostly older folks who have limited hearing like that, unless you've been exposed to a lot of loud, sustained noise.

A lot of other factors go into what makes a headphone sound good because extension too, such as how accurately they reproduce music across the entire audible spectrum. This is also highly subjective.

>>61791430
I have had 6 sets of tubes in my 19 years on this planet and with sinegen I can without a doubt say I cannot hear 16k additionally I have an imbalance of hearing loss along lower frequencies left to right is different

>>61791487
>I cannot hear 16k
>I have an imbalance of hearing loss along lower frequencies
Holy shit, that sucks. At least you didn't get literal ear cancer like that anon who visited here some time ago

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>>61791551
>>61791430
also they used Etymotic headphones to do the test

>>61791609
before my tubes my hearing was roughly 20dB lower

>>61791025
I'd stick with the tried and true HD650. You know exactly what you're getting with them based on years of reports/reviews and they're great. Monoprice products tend to break quickly.

>>61791662
see the Headphone in the top center it was in production less than a year before they removed it for being too fragile i think I'll Manage fine if i choose it

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>>61791025
>actually considering sibilant 5 kHz ringing: the headphone
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/67yhhd/m1060_measurements_and_impressions_sbaf/
>I've sent all 3 of mine back because of various build quality issues. The last one was a rev 2.
>>61791662 doesn't lie. I fell for the Monoprice meme a few times and every single time the shit broke within a few months through no fault of my own. It doesn't matter if you baby them. It's Monoprice. It'll break anyway.

>>61791698
Thanks for your opinion though

and >>61791763

see >>61791609 for my hearing test results
I have about a 20dB hearing loss@5KHz

>>61791787
rip
>>61791698 (You)
Thanks for your opinion though
was for >>61791662

>>61791025
>>61791321
This. Try some planars if you haven't tried some already. The headband is pretty comfy, not to mention, really nice bass.
>>61791662 Build issues have been fixed with its newest revision, so unless if you get something older, you shouldn't really have a problem.

>>61791799
I'll order from Monoprice directly

>>61791787
If I'm reading that chart correctly your high frequency hearing is more sensitive than your low frequency hearing. I would think that means you should be extra careful about headphones with high frequency peaks or ringing.

>>61791799
>Build issues have been fixed with its newest revision
The guy in the link in >>61791763 sent his revised version back for build quality issues, which is completely unsurprising given my experience with several of Monoprice's products.

>>61791829
>>61791787
Your hearing chart also makes me wonder if you should be considering headphones even bassier than either of the options you're considering. I would think that significantly bassier headphones than the ones you're considering would probably sound more "right" if your low frequency hearing is 20 dB less sensitive than your high frequency hearing.

>>61791882
It means at a normal Volume that sound is 20Db Quieter than to a person than normal hearing

>>61791851
Had absolutely no issues from the 9 months I owned the thing, but I did eventually sell them for speakers. I'm sure you can find some issues with headphones other people had if you really put your mind to it.

>>61791025
i owned some monoprice headphones once and they got a stress fracture through normal use within a matter of weeks cannot recommend

>>61791882
See Zero is a normal persons hearing Just like eye sight 20 being the number of Feet I can see something 20/50 would mean perfect sight can see something at 50ft while i need to be at 20ft so what im saying is my hearing is 20DdB lower than perfect in the highs and 40dB lower in the than perfect in the lows

>>61791940
I have a rather small head I usually have to have the adjusters as tight as possible to get them to fit right so they wouldnt be stretched out much

>>61787414
That's not what lossy compression means. Don't believe what you read on the internet, kids!

>>61791025
Grab the Monoprice. The HD 650s are barely and upgrade to what you own, and that's literally where the Sennheiser veil meme came from.
Also, see >>61714768

>>61791964
>my hearing is 20DdB lower than perfect in the highs and 40dB lower in the than perfect in the lows
That is what I gathered from reading the chart. It seems logical to me that you should be looking for super bass-heavy headphones if that is the case, rather than semi-accurate headphones like the ones you are considering. That being said, I don't think there are any headphones with a 20 dB bass boost, so I would probably consider things like build quality and comfort a lot more in my purchasing decision than I would sound quality if I were you. I think you could do better than either of the choices you're considering in those departments, so I would do more research into what headphones excel in comfort and build quality.

>>61792005
Fuck. Wrong link
>>61714769

>>61792009
if thats the case i have endgame the Pioneer Monitor 10 the original version from 1977 are like tank and they weigh 1.5 lbs or around 600g

>>61792005
Well Personally I feel my Pioneer Monitor 10 II from 1986-87 I can't remember are almost on par with the K701s and DT880s Except they are more isolated so you can tell they are closed but they have a huge soundstage for closed headphones

Ear buds recommendation for gym?

Want good quality and semi water resistant (will use for snowboarding too but thats not so wet)

>>61792040
I think it's utterly silly to buy expensive headphones with your hearing condition, but if you absolutely must do so, I'd get something with top notch comfort and build quality and use Equalizer APO to give them a big old bass boost. I'd ask your doctor, though, before doing so, as perhaps giving them a big bass boost might worsen your low frequency hearing loss. In any case, I don't think there's a good reason for you to spend $300-500 on headphones given your hearing condition. Just get something cheaper that's comfortable and spend the rest on something more useful for you. You will unfortunately not be able to enjoy the sonic benefits of expensive headphones with your condition.

>>61792066
How'd the 1980 DT880s sound anyway? Is it still with you?

>>61792099
I can still hear Detail and sound stage but the FR may not sound the same to me as others

>>61792118
You already have detail/soundstage monsters in your AKGs. It seems to me like you're trying to fill a need which doesn't exist.

>>61792107
They are pretty good they have excellent soundstage and detail but as my hearing is pretty bad I wouldnt be the best judge But I feel its a cross between my Pioneer Monitor 10 and AKG K701
and the Monitor 10 II being near sidestep to the the DT880 but the Monitor 10 II having more low end

>>61792131
Well I also enjoy the Aesthetics of certain things and i do like the M1060's look I also have never heard a Planar headphone so That's one reason I'd like to try other headphones that's half of the reason I'd like to own a pair of Stax Sigmas

>>61792157
Thanks

>>61792157
Financially comfortable people stay financially comfortable long-term by making wise spending and investment decisions. It seems to me as if there's thousands of better uses for $300-500 than nice-looking headphones for someone with hearing damage but hey, it's your money.

>>61791012
>>61790606
>>61789611
Am back now. Listened to them for a few hours and they're amazing.
EQed them and they sound great as well.
Got a Fiio X3 2nd Gen to pair with it.

>>61792178
they usually sell for around 120-180usd on ebay
I recommend Getting newer Velour Pads for them and the aluminum Grill on the back of the cup is extremely damageable so be careful to only grab the edge of the cups

>>61792185
Yes I know this But that's why I simply limited it to 500 anything more and its a true waste I wouldnt have even bought the K701 if I hadn't managed to get it for 200 and that was last year when I had save for them all year since I was getting myself a Graduation present since my family is cold and heartless less than half of them even sent me a card to congratulate me But anyhow

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>>61792178
if you get one Be sure to get the one with the logo looking like this one others are newer and may not sound the same as the original one

>>61792237
You can get comfortable headphones with good build quality for a lot less than $300. Spending any more is only really spending on diminishing sound quality returns which you won't even be able to appreciate fully with your condition, since frequency response is responsible for easily at least 95% of perceived sound quality.

>>61792237
>>61792280
I was just curious on how they sounded, but now I'm even more curious. May pick one up this month; thanks alot, anon

>>61792326
Make sure its a pair with the Beyerdynamic logo sliced on two levels

>>61792315
Its true but probably whichever pair of Headphones I get will most likely be the last pair of New headphones I will buy for a good long while but other such as an original Koss Pro4AAA has long interested me and I can purchase one of those for a very reasonable price

what do people think of Replay Gain in Foobar2000 Some tracks are overly Quiet while some entirely too loud does it affect the sound quality to use it?

>>61792361
Appreciate it

anyone got experience with the sennheiser hd 579? is it better than the 558?

>>61792477
It's more comparable to the HD598, yes.

What to buy I currently stream my music into my denon avr-x3300w but I wanna try headphones in this thing. Don't wanna spend more then $800 after taxes also I'm Canadian. Don't care about looks or style as long as it sounds really good. I actually play my music on speakers atm and I don't see how any headphones can match the fidelity of the speakers I have but I'm willing to try.

I ordered a KZ ZS5. Is it comparable to HD600? Or HD558? Better than HD700?

>>61792524
>I don't see how any headphones can match the fidelity of the speakers I have but I'm willing to try
You probably can't, especially not with Canadian prices. What speakers?

>>61792466
You cannot achieve perfect volume matching between tracks without either clipping or using a limiter or compressor in addition to replay gain, so you cannot achieve perfect volume matching without negatively affecting sound quality.

>>61792543
lol no

>am runner
>80$ limit

What buy?

>>61792598
VE Monk Plus with Expansion Pack if you want to me aware of your surroundings
KZ ZS5
Soundmagic E30
Tennmak Pro
MEE M6 Pro
Etymotic MK5/MC5/HF5

>>61792588
Not even with these?
Okay is this snakeoil and should I order it too?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-Official-Store-Silver-Upgrade-Cable/32754762826.html

>>61792543
No. They are muddy as fuck.

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I need a good dac/preamp for under 200$ It's for my home PC. I live in the US. Or should I just buy an internal soundcard with onboard dac/preamp?

>>61787917
What is it like not being able to afford anything TOTL?

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Thoughts?

>>61789757
Price being no object they are pretty much endgame. Blows anything else senn does out of the water.

>>61792805
nevermind, did a little research and I think I'll be going with a Schiit modi 2u + magni 2u stack. Just a little more than I wanted to spend but seems worth it to go with my headphones (mono 1060s)

thanks anyway /hpg/

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>>61792967

>>61793141
>Uber Stack
Unless you NEED the extra outputs on the Ubers, just cut back to the regular stack or go NFB-11
>M1060
They need modding to fix the flaws they have.

>>61793306
Thanks but I'll be sticking with the ubers.

>m1060 need modding
Um, no shit sherlock? I hope you're not some sennshill trying to convince everyone they ought to enjoy eating shit for breakfast everyday.

>>61793355
Fuck HD 600s. They might be good headphones but they're not perfect or may not be what whoever wants purchase advice's preference.

>>61793355
>>61793306
as a potential buyer of M1060s what are the mods to do?

>>61788836
Is the standard cable that comes with the ZS5 bad? Whats the cable called? .75mm cable?

>>61793491
at least get better pads for a start, I'd also replace the headband because that band looks fucking ugly

>>61793491
there's a thread on it: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/monoprice-monolith-m1060-and-m560-planar-headphones.820107/page-170

NAD VISO HP50 for $150 is a good deal?

https://www.amazon.com/NAD-Electronics-NADHP50RED-VISO-HP50/dp/B00FA4XS8W/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1502179825&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=viso+hp50

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I always feel like peeing/cumming when listening to bass
this normal?

>>61793805
yes, bass is awesome.

>>61793306
what does the NFB-11 retail for?

>>61793835
seriously though other day a little bit of precum leaked out when I played a mp3 with a sudden heavy bass part

>>61793846
$300 plus shipping depending on the unit you're buying from Audio GD and country your shipping to.
www.audio-gd.com/Shipping cost.htm

>>61793846
$300 Plus shipping
google 'audio gd shipping', it should be the first result

>>61787954
This thread is not an advertisement for that product. Please enjoy the sound of crickets.

Why there are so many audio gd shills everywhere in past month? Are they trying to beat schiit as a company with worst marketing?

>>61787325
Brother's birthday coming around and I want to get him some headphones so I don't have to listen to FUCKING fnaf songs

>Budget
$50-$100
>Location
straya
>Source
Phone/PC
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy enough that he doesn't take them off
>Sound signature
idc but neutral is nice

>>61794046
CAL
662 EVO

>>61793886
>>61793870
is it pretty much endgame before you start getting into audiophoolishness?

>>61794264
Is this bait or are you just shilling audio-dg because you're retarded?

>>61794264
do you hate sabre dacs? do you need balanced? do you need even more absurd amounts of power? get something else. otherwise it's the best price/performance ratio combo even under $1000.

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>>61794361

>>61794305
I'm asking a question. why are you so rude?

>>61794361
ok, thanks.

>>61794429
>retarded redditposter complaining about people being rude on 4chan
>asking if audio-dg is "endgame"
>"I'm not shilling, I swear!"
fuck off and never come back

>>61794513
I don't understand. are you claiming that they are endgame or that they are rubbish?

>>61794677
He's saying it's shit. People here sometimes sperg out like him over dumb shit.

>>61794725
No, I'm not saying they're shit. You're trying to elevate them to some ridiculous status they don't deserve, and then trying to make personal attacks against anyone that disagrees, hence you are a disgusting shill and should drink poison.

>>61794046
NVX XPT100

If you don't mind being less netural and a bit more uncomfortable

Get the Akai Project 50x with Lyxpro Has 30 ear pads. They are pretty uncomfortable without the extra ear pads. There's also velour ones but I haven't tried those.

Overall I prefer it to my NVX XPT100.


https://www.amazon.com/Akai-Professional-Project-50X-Headphones/dp/B01GDB79T4
https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Ear-Pads-LyxPro-HAS-30/dp/B01N6DLLMN/

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>>61795003

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So /g/ complains about /r/Headphones even though the recommendations on /r/Headphones are vastly superior to the people shitposting V6 and Audio-GD. /hpg/ is trash as always and the anonymity of 4chan works against good recommendations from respected community individuals and blabbering retards with a Fiio E10k and DT770.

Anyone who recommends Audio-GD is an idiot because if it is faulty in any way you're going to be dealing with china shit-tier, barely speak engrish support and return shipping to China.

If you buy Schiit or Fiio through Amazon you can return it no questions asked.

>>61793690
Good price. Ear pads are a bit on the small side and the headband is unattractive and uncomfortable.

>>61791025
M1060 has shit distortion and a peak at 4Khz. It has much better subbass. HD650 is comfortable, godly mids and treble but lacks subbass.

If you really want a good planar magnetic then look for a used HE-500 or HE-560.>>61790563

Does it actually matter what sample rate I set in Windows audio options? And if so what should I set to? Is it better to just go as high as my hardware supports, or should I try to match the content I'm playing back?

>>61796484
Why should you care if you can't tell the difference?

>>61796513
It's been bothering me since I had a game a while back where there were some weird audio pops and crackles that went away when I messed with the sample rate. Obviously that's some kind of bug with the software but it's made me think about what the ideal place for it actually to be for a while.

Besides, even if I can't tell the difference the nagging feeling that I'm doing something suboptimal (well, actually worse than that, the feeling that I MIGHT be doing something suboptimal, which somehow bothers me even more than being sure of it) will subjectively make the experience worse.

>>61796532
you're obsessing. leave it at the default and enjoy your life.

Is dusting out headphones with canned air potentially damaging to them?

>>61796569
YES

>>61796577
Even if I'm gentle? I was disgusted with all the nasty skin flakes and dandruff coating all the little holes on the outside of my headphones as well as along the ear cups so gave it a light puff to make them go away.

>>61796484
WASAPI bypasses all that shit anyways. And resample down, not up, and only if your dac has issues with certain rates.

How long should a decent pair of headphones last?

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>>61796659
forever

>>61796659
I've owned my sennheiser hd600s for 17 years, and haven't been particularly careful with them

>>61796659
Some people report having the V6 since day one, also, i know an engineer who still listen to a DT100 from the 70's.

>>61796741
>SNAP

>>61796829
that's some weak shit posting anon.

take my advice, replace your pads when they get nasty, it's worth the investment. I went 11 years before replacing them the first time

>>61796899
I've been ok just giving them a rinse in the sink with some light detergent and letting them dry for a bit. They mighta got thinner though but it's ok. Even worksed that one time I screwed up and they both got covered in blood, cleaned up just fine.

>>61791025
>Sennheiser HD650 or Monoprice M1060
You want a ready product or something to mod/EQ? Monoprice can be decent but it needs modding and better pads to kill treble spike, and bring up treble to more even level. Here is how one gayboy did it, decent results and he has measures
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOCqN96eEgo&t
Other thing is what do you want, good mids or sub bass? Also I would recommend HD600 just because it's cheaper and highs on HD650 are too rolled off. Otherwise if you want planars with a good bass go Hi-Fi memes 400i.

ACTUALLY fuck monomemes, I just checked amazon U.S. and they are selling HE-400I for for 249$ from amazon prime seller, this looks like a nice offer. Is it me or HiFi man is getting rid of their stock to replace with a newer models?

>>61792549
KEF ls50s

>>61791609
Holy shit dude, feel bad for ya but that lower frequencies loss, I though highs die first. I have hearing loss in the left ear around 4k, funny thing when I got HD600 I thought they have channel imbalance from my HD598, and my doctor told me to stop headphones for at least a year, probably forever, so I am looking into speakers now.

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>>61796899
https://www.headphone.com/products/sennheiser-replacement-pads-for-hd650-hd600-and-hd580

>$50 bucks for some foam and velour

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>>61790563
>DEGENERATE

>>61790563
>not turning off the lamp to prevent interference

>>61787663
I bought the HD600s and I'm having a very good experience with them.

>>61797002
There's also these for sale right now: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-hifiman-he4xx-planar-magnetic-headphones

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>>61797893

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What headphones are these?

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Looks like a pioneer logo to me. Don't know about the model, though.

I have a pair of Fidelio X2 and have been thinking about ATH-M50X as a closed, more portable 2nd pair. Or should I just save the 140€ and buy a pair of really high end headphones down the line?

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What's the ZS5 cable called? Is the standard cable that comes with it bad, why should I go for braided cable?

>>61800164
Why do you think it's bad?

>>61800164
I ordered one. I'll link it https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-Official-Store-Silver-Upgrade-Cable/32754762826.html

My question is still unanswered. Snakeoil? Is there sound difference to normal cable?

>>61800214
It's just a nicer built cable

>>61800255
So sound quality is the same?

>>61800178
I have that impression since people change it to silver braided cables.

>>61800368
>Sound quality is still the same?
Yes

Where can i find original black velour pads for DT880?
I was thinking of getting leather ones since i find it much easier to clean, but i'm afraid the sound will change too much to my liking.
I don't really want the silver ones since they slowly lose color.

>>61800164
I'm awaiting kzs5's and the silver cable too, I bought it for aesthetic reasons. I love the silver and copper braided look. It's not going to sound better than the original cable.

>>61800576
https://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-EDT990VB-Headphone-Pads-Black/dp/B008XEYT6G

>>61794046
M40x

>>61799574
>Or should I just save the 140€ and buy a pair of really high end headphones down the line?
It depends on how often you often you are going to go out with your headphones

my DAC won't let me change the sound of my PC so everything is absurdly fucking loud even at like 10% on the DAC but if it's that low the sound becomes imbalanced

how do I fix such a problem other than turning everything on my PC to 1% volume and inevitably opening something new and having my fucking ears absolutely blasted to pieces and my head blown off

>>61788889
Seconding this, I need to replace my headphones as well, have eyed the ATH-M50x and SH 440 but I want some advice.

>>61801433
Get an amp/preamp

>>61801468
M50x no question.

m40x vs HD 518? they are same price and only good ones that i can find in my country

>>61801548
No experience with the M40X, but the HD 518 is one muddy piece of shit. At least go with the 559 or better, the 558 if they are close enough to your price range.

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>>61795162
>So /g/ complains about /r/Headphones even though the recommendations on /r/Headphones are vastly superior to the people shitposting V6 and Audio-GD
It's true. They don't hate on good products just to be contrarian.

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>>61801746
Then why not go back?

>>61796484
If you watch a lot of movies or anime you should set it to 48,000 Hz and use Resampler V for foobar to upsample 44.1 music to 48. You should set it to the highest bitrate you can because Windows automatically resamples all audio to 32 bit floating point then automatically resamples it a second time to whatever you have it set to in Windows before playback, so it's best to use 24 bit if you can or even 32 bit if you can rather than 16 bit.

recommending sennheiser hd 4.20
price ~90€
good omph, good padding, never hurts, can play loud af
bought a couple of akg's for the same price but they sucked so hard i went to exchange and got myself a really nice pair.

also dont worry bout flac, 320kbps is the most you can percieve anyway. remember that your body is rotting from the inside every second.
#deterioration

>>61796591
WASAPI is a meme and unnecessary. It disallows use of Equalizer APO which is far more useful than it. There is no use for WASAPI if you set your shit to 48k for anime/movies and use Resampler V in foobar. I guess there's probably use for it and ASIO for recording.

>>61796922
>Even worksed that one time I screwed up and they both got covered in blood
Creepiest /hpg/ post ever.

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>>61801746
>>61801775
Too many downvotes from anon trying to shill his endgames too hard

>>61801789
>so it's best to use 24 bit if you can or even 32 bit if you can rather than 16 bit.
To elaborate a little on this, 24 bit audio has a lower noise floor than 16 bit and 32 bit audio has an even lower noise floor than 24 bit audio. One might think that if they listen to mostly 16 bit audio it'd be best to set Windows to 16 bit to prevent resampling from taking place, but this is pointless since Windows automatically resamples audio to 32 bit floating point.

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>>61801809
>sennheiser hd 4.20
Dude.

>>61801985
im not your dude bro

>tfw still waiting on my HD6xx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCpmd5zHu6o

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taking picture of the inside of my sound card

>>61802012
You are not my Bro, buddy.

>>61791203
>>61791263
I also have a CRT and I always come back to it.

The rock zircons really live up to the hype.
I think in future I'll just buy a bunch of cheap Chinese earphones rather than one set of reputable cans.

>>61803986
You're not my buddy, Reddit

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EQ is so awesome. I'm a DT990 fan but this is the first time I've ever had enough power in my amp and the knowledge to EQ well. Every time I've tried it in the past it just sounded like shit.
Pic related sounds really good. I love it.
When you're picking your amp try to get one with some extra power so you can fuck around with EQ.

>>61804239
Can't short-change yourself on a good set of cans, Anon :^)

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>>61804297
Step up your eq game bro

>>61804371
Wow is that for a dt990? Can you screenshot the other window so I can try your settings please?

>>61804401
Nah man those are for HE400i. I used to have settings for the DT880 but I think I deleted those.

>>61804411
I just assumed because of the reduction in treble lol

>>61804297
If you want to get a little more advanced/precise with things: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/

>>61790110
Anyone have advice on this? I was eyeing the HA-SE2 as an obvious choice but may be better options.

>>61804270
>reddit calling someone else reddit
reddit

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>>61804838
>reddit calling someone else reddit
leddit

>>61804239
I literally got them 3 days ago and they're decent for the price, but the piston 3's are clearly better. The 600's are much better than the p3's if you're talking home use.

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Seriously, why do people even buy headphones other than the HD800? I don't understand it.

>>61805032
This emote is what killed SA

>>61806471
Personally, the 600's are the best headphone that I have bought. They beat all the other obvious headphones around that price range. I have already spent stupid mone on 600's and a schiit stack, and I don't see myself ever buying a 1k headphone, though I would love to try the 800's. I'm incredibly happy with my setup.

>>61806524
>though I would love to try the 800's
Literally a HD600 but with soundstage.

>I'm incredibly happy with my setup.
If you ever used a HD800 you wouldn't be.

>>61796659
long enough for your grandkids to use em?

>>61806471
Because HD600 are better.

>>61806549
>Literally a HD600 with soundstage
Neat. That thing barely had soundstage in the first place

>>61806733
Hey, finally a 600 owner that agrees with it having little soundstage and not that 'The soundstage is accurate while other headphones exaggerate it' meme

>>61806549
Heard the HD800 and didn't think it was worth 4x the price of the HD600

>>61806797
Ayyy, thanks anon

>>61806549
The 600 with added soundstage sounds end game to me. But I don't wan't to spend 1k on a headphone. That said I have wasted a lot of money over time upgrading dacs/amps over the last year.

>>61806817
Definitely not, unless you've got money to throw down the drain. They are worth 50% more than a 600 tops, I hate the loss of comfort too.

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They will be mine

>>61807000
Used 800 tho. They usually go for about $650 average

>>61807282
Are they actually better than the 600 though? I don't doubt it, but they apparently have treble problems, and the 600 is supposed to be shit compared t the 600s. Both seem way too expensive for me to test out

>>61807469
800 compared to the 800 S is what I meant to say

>Budget
~$200

>Location
USA

>Type of headphone
Over Ear

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Comfy

>Past headphones
Audio Technica

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Got some discount gear from a friend upgrading his studio
>focusrite scarlett solo
>Yamaha HS7 monitors (pair)
>male to female xlr cable

What else do I need to hook it all up to my PC?

New thread

>>61807671
>>61807671
>>61807671

>>61807620
HD579

>>61806733
Soundstage is a meme.

>>61804411
>Nah man those are for HE400i.
That makes sense. The HE400 family does have very peaky treble, after all.

>>61803510
>>61803522
That's a lot of capacitors.

>>61801539
M40x are better than M50x.

>>61807781
Meme or not, the 600's soundstage is pretty lackluster.

>>61807793
They also change your ears HRTF cause the pad holes bend the top of your ear. I have found that online measurements aren't as accurate as with other headphones because of this. After EQ they're really nice though.

>>61807514
800S is ass compared to 800. There's also the SDR mod or whatever the french mod for it is to fix the treble or EQ.