/pcbg/ - PC Building General

If you're feeling bold, don't mind playing The Rebate Game, and have at least a mid tower case:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103202

Bought one a couple days ago, thinking of replacing the fan with a Noctua F12 and seeing what that can do for my CPU temps

>>61776302
The subject is memory
Of course GPU is 99-100%, but If there was a clearly bottleneck shit there wouldn't be benefit from higher memory clock, 'cuz gpu is fucking things up
you could say memory who is bottle-necking performance, but my questions regarding sub 60 remains

>>61776453
In what scenario will a CPU bottleneck occur sub 60 FPS?

What are the ram with the best compatibility with Ryzen.

>>61776557
It's more of a motherboard thing, check for the motherboard QVL.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822178993

2TB 7200 RPM for $60 today only

> No Ryzen unless discounted, they have bad single-threaded performance and have hardcoded bugs at the moment.

This has to be bait.

>>61776379
Is /g/ just an enormous Intel/Mac shill dump?

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>>61776663

Looking to build a PC around
$1000 Australian

>>61776707
Okay. Do you expect someone to build it for you?

>>61776717
I'm expecting suggestions like it says in OP

>>61776729
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CHnv9W

>>61776729
If you had read the OP, you would know that is specifically says that if you want help, your gonna have to atleast start a part list yourself you massive waste of space.

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this is my first build, looking to spend a little less, and the main purpose of my machine is to edit videos and maybe play a few games here and there.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2sMgM8

>>61776763
>a few games
are you trying to max 120 fps

what can a 4690k oc to 4.3ghz be equivalent to today? a stock 6600k maybe?

>>61776763
If you're looking to edit / render videos, a Ryzen 1600 would be a better choice. Get a b350 mobo with that, and add an HDD to your build. You can also drop the Hyper Evo, Ryzens come with amazing stock coolers.
Try to spend a little less on the case, and drop to a 1070 / 1060 (6GB IF YOU'RE GONNA GET A 1060!) if you don't play too many resource intensive games.

>>61776763
you can bump that PSU down to 750 without worry, unless there's a whole bunch of other bells and whistles you're adding on but aren't listed

put the savings into a better heat sink, 212 EVO won't be enough for that CPU

>>61776771
i really dont know what im doing. i just picked what looked like a good video card. im tired of editing videos slowly its irritating.
what video card would you recommend thats not overkill that could take 2 monitors or a ultra wide?

>>61776763
>>61776788
>>61776802
Here. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtrgM8

>>61776791
what heat sink would you recommend?
>>61776788
thank you very much for the specifics!

>>61776814
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GtrgM8
thanks thats looks like a beaut! looks very good

>>61776802
If your monitors are both standard HD at 60 Hz, you can probably drop from a GTX 1080 to a GTX 1070; if not, keep the 1080

Look into a Ryzen 5 1600/1600X for your processor though, it'll probably do everything you want it to do for MUCH cheaper than that Intel you've picked out

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>>61776379
so this will be my nas/esxi server
any suggestions?
first upgrade will be another 16 gigs of ram
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tw7jr7

How does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ddqrbj
The budget is pretty much maxed already in this (I know the 1080 is out of stock right now, I know how much it adds to my build), I've got a 1920x1080 monitor 144hz, I want to be able to play Overwatch, CS, Rust, Ark on high FPS medium settings.I was wondering if there was any improvements I could make without impacting the budget too much.

I got a core i3 3210. If I get a core i5 2500, will I get a noticeable increase in performance? I only want to upgrade the cpu.

>>61777173
Might as well throw everything out now desu

>>61777119
>paying for windows
>paying more than $100 for 16gb dirt ram
>paying more than $60 for mid atx case

>>61777194
Not him but where the fuck can I buy 16 gigs of DDR4 ram for less than $100?

>>61777207
you can't, atleast not for higher frequency dimms

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I have a problem. I'm building my first PC and I just mounted everything. I followed all the guides step by step, and I even toke precautions to avoid static electricity damaging components. And when i connected everything, the monitor won't recognize signal, and I connected it to my GPU dvi port using a vga adapter for the monitor. I also tried using an HDMI, and connecting the a VGA to the motherboard instead. Also the computer restart itself like ever 20 seconds or so. Also GPU cooler stop working, but I don't know if that is normal because it shut down itself if it isn't being used. I think the problem is that the CPU overheats because the thermal paste that came pre-applied in the CPU cooler is shit and I live in Spain with 40 Celsius degrees as room temperature. I just bought thermal paste, I'm waiting for Amazon to deliver. I bought these pieces https://es.pcpartpicker.com/guide/tXNnTW/entry-level-gaming-build.

>>61777410
Fug

>>61777414
Move somewhere not so hot

>want to buy temporary replacement GPU for my 5770
>turns out no new cards cna be used because the mainboard does not have an UEFI bios

Gotta endure until Zen2 then

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What do you want to see, when you hover over a PSU for some extra info?

The one on the right is what I am planning right now.

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which one of these monitors is superior?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236757

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-000D-004W2

Primary usage will be gaming with a side of content creation, workstation, 3D modelling, video and photo editing stuff to a lesser degree.

Also i have a nvidia gpu so freesync doesnt really matter to me as i dont plan on upgrading for a long time

>>61777505
>OEM
Yes please!

>PCIe
I don't really care. I know it will have enough

>Efficiency
At higher ratings, efficiency at lower liadings is a big differentiating factor, so maybe also something about that

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>>61777456
There is no fresh place in my home, the basement is like 30 Celsius too.

>>61777575
>At higher ratings, efficiency at lower liadings is a big differentiating factor
That sort of data is not going to be easily available, as not all PSUs are reviewed by the same people, and not all reviewers do low-power testing.

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>>61777505
Just bought one of those for my nephew last week. Top-tier reviews.

>>61777194
please tell me where i can find 16gb ddr4 for under 100 in EU all knowing one

>>61777601
~7 year old design, and still an excellent choice.

msi gtx 770 2gb for $50 usd good? i dont plan on playing anything other than csgo with it on an old rig from 2008

>>61776379

considering the 1151 pentiums are all 70+ dollars i would go ryzen 1200 even for normies (autistic 4chan normies) mom builds can still be the 3930 for facebook gaming and netflix streaming

this is the default build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QKLTkT

>>61777675
Good for $50. Better than a 1050 Ti, not as good as a 1060 3GB.

>>61777726
Wait what
A 1050 ti is better than a 680/770

>>61777505
More feedback on this, please.

>>61777179
Yes, it will boost performance in pretty much everything, since you're doubling the core count and the cores are just as strong. If you're gaymen the gains wont be too huge unless you're playing recent titles, but will still be very significant.

Also be aware than in going from Ivy Bridge to Sandy Bridge you'll lose things like SATA3, USB3 and all the other stuff the newer chipset features.

>>61777744
The 770 sits between the 1050 Ti and 1060 3GB.

>>61777508
I have the same Asus in a smaller variant and it's a very nice monitor.. I'm not worried about color accuracy though so I cannot comment on that but if you value it then the LG may be worth the extra cash ror that and the freesync tax could still work if you sell it in a future upgrade.

About to make the leap from 32 to 64 bit. Any tips?

>Corsair Air 240 looks great
>Can't fit 1080 Ti and NH-D15 in

Thermaltake Core V21 it is then.

>>61777505

nothing uses more than 300-400watts under load and thats when benchmarking the CPU and GPU individually at the same time

just get the cheapest a 400 watt EVGA

>>61777414
I'm not a super duper expert on recent AMD cards, but recent Nvidia offerings have had no analog out what so ever, so that explains why using a DVI to VGA converter is displaying nothing.

Anyway, your restarting issue sounds like it isn't related to the GPU, which is probably a bad sign. Unless you're retarded and applied it wrong, there's absolutely no way the CPU can overheat at idle just because your ambient is 40C. It could be anything from a dead CPU, to dead RAM, to a dead motherboard or even a PSU maybe.

Assuming you weren't an idiot and bought multiple dimms of RAM, try it with just one stick (try both), and try it in each in different motherboard slots and see what happens.

Did you install it in a case yet or is it just a test run on a cardboard box?

>>61777791
New

>>61777791
Good luck running a 1080Ti and 7900X on 400W.

Even if you aren't going for a balls to the walls system, I still wouldn't fancy running a 1600X and Vega 56 on a 400W PSU, it might work, but holy fuck are you cutting it close. Besides, the industry is moving away from super low power consumption shit anyway, as seen by AMD introducing a 350W single GPU card, and Intel getting BTFO by Ryzen meaning their next line of processors will likely use another 50% more power, given they are basically going to be Kaby lake with an additional two cores.

A 500W or more PSU is barely more expensive, and will be quieter under load. There's a reason most manufacturers start their lines with a PSU around 500w. If I was building a Vega 64 + 8700K system in 6 months time I'd sure as shit want a 600W PSU minimum.

>>61777845

okay so its a bit under 500 once you add the ram and mobo

theres a 600 EVGA on sale so you go with that

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/74QbPs

Okay /g/
I've got a r9 280x powered with a 2 x molex to pci-e 8 pin and I'm planning to use either a 2 x sata to pci-e 6 pin or a single sata to power the 6 pin, should I be fine using just the single sata?

>>61777972
Can't you use more more molex connectors? I assume it's a super old PSU doesn't just have PCIe connectors? Some PSU's might not like putting out such a high amount of power to their sata connectors, given they were only intended for 10w HDD's.

Personally I'd spend the $50 on a new PSU and not have to worry about dying of smoke inhalation in my sleep.

>>61778007
Sadly, both my available molex connectors are taken up by the 8 pin, would a single molex more be able to support a 6 pin in the first place?

>>61777505
That looks really good. I don't think any other information would be readily available.

To you refer to PSU test sites like jonnyguru? Even with the same OEM quality may differ drastically between product series. To give direct feedback over that may be helpful, but it might only be available for a fraction of PSUs at all and it would be a bitch to manually put the data in I guess.

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>>61778034
Yes, you can convert a 6pin PCIe to 8pin PCIe without issue in most cases, so if you have to run some stupid janky setup of adapters that would be the way to do it. Do the molex connectors you've got come on their own as each separate cable, or are they daisy chained from the PSU like pic related?

What is the make and model of the PSU? Have you considered perhaps the reason it doesn't have enough power cables is because it wasn't meant to feed a high end GPU?

>>61778080
It's a 550w Chinese something, but yes both molex connectors are daisy chained, with a sata and a floppy daisy chained to the same cable, while the second cable has two satas daisy chained to each other. I think I might be able to get away with it just for a few weeks until I can afford a proper power supply, hopefully.

>>61778119
>It's a 550w Chinese something
Just seriously throw it in the bin and buy it reputable. If it says it's 550w it really means it's (((550w))), it has the chance of damaging your expensive components and/or catching fire. Buy something 500W+ from EVGA, Seasonic or Silverstone with an 80PLUS rating and you'll be golden. It isn't worth the risk for like $50.

>>61778119
What PSU exactly? "Chinese something" varies from well made superflower PSUs to "chinglong will blow your shit up if you try to use more than a third of what its rated for". Do not build adapter contraptions without knowing for certain that the PSU can handle it. Do not use unknown, possibly shitty PSUs at all with expensive hardware.

>>61776379
>CPUs:
>No Ryzen unless discounted, they have bad single-threaded performance and have hardcoded bugs at the moment.
>>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
>>i5 7640X - Budget builds (<$1000)
>>i7 7740X - Best for gaming
>>i9 7900X - Best for gaming and productivity


Thanks for the free advertisement goy

>>61778154
It means it's Jewish?

>>61777805
I made a video, but I cannot into webm so I don't know how to make one without sound

https://dropfile.to/BmR83xa

>>61776379
>and have hardcoded bugs at the moment
what bugs

>>61778179
Add -an to your ffmpeg command

>>61777788
here's one: kill yourself

>>61778186
None, its just baiting

>>61778203
Spotted the AMD shill. You only have to head over to r/ AMD to see the asshurt apocalypse over there about the recent Ryzen issues.

>>61778203
why is the OP hijacked by intel

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>>61778209
Keep telling yourself that schlomo.

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>There are people here who think spending less that $100 on a PSU is a good idea

for a streaming + light gaming rig, is the 1400 enough or should I bump up to 1600?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j2MNbj

>>61778406
A 1400 should suffice. I'd suggest getting a modular PSU if this is your first build, you can find some for about 40 / 20ish more than your current one.

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>>61776379
good bait in the op.
Anyway, ausfag here, no set budget, just checking with you guys that I'm not getting memed on any of my part choices.
Also, anyone got any experience building in the 570x? I like the aesthetic but I'm not great at cable management. Is it going to give me a migraine?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/XPps3F

>>61778482
I mean, the 570x is a meme in itself but if you'd like to get a look at the cable management PCPartPicker made a cable management timelapse video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=homWKqi_gXU
Other than that, it looks good. No HDD?

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>>61777414
>>61777456
>>61777805
I think I found the problem. The pre-applied thermal paste that came with the CPU cooler is shit. Pic related, I'm pretty sure that the computer reset itself because the CPU overheat a lot with that shitty thermal paste that probably do nothing.

>>61778516
just get like arctic or other decent thermalpaste

>>61778522
I bought a Noctua NT-H1, I'm waiting for Amazon to deliver it

>>61778406
>streaming
You'll want 6+ cores pal, a 1600 isn't that much more expensive anyway when you consider the mobo and RAM are going to cost you as much.

>>61778516
That won't change anything, the thermal paste that comes pre applied with the stock cooler is more than enough to cool the CPU properly during idle.

>>61778516
You aren't going to be hitting 105C before the system even POSTs you shitter, and even if it did it would just throttle, not shut down.

Lisa Su makes my dick ryzen.

>>61778586
>>61778595
I'm gonna rebuild the PC again too, if it still doesn't work, I'm probably gonna change the parts since it has warranty.

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THICC

Why aren't there high end mATX boards?

>>61778036
Jonnyguru is the best, and TPU does surprisingly good PSU reviews.

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So AMD said that AM4 will be supported for Zen+ and Zen2 (I think that's what they are calling them). Is it the same for the TR4 socket? Like, will a ThreadRipper refresh and ThreadRipper refresh refresh work so I can just swap out the CPU and keep the motherboard? Because TR4 mitherboards are expensive as fuck.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186153

Thoughts on this lil lad?

I'm looking at a 1200/1050ti build with a seasonic g series 360w psu because it feels like it should be enough

will going for 450w prevent me from getting fucked over in the future?

>>61778943
It is good.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/dominic-moass/arctic-liquid-freezer-240-aio-cpu-cooler-review/5/

I know ryzen 1600 doesn't have integrated gpu but can i just test it if it works fine even if my gpu hasn't arrived yet

>>61778858
True. But what I was asking is if you refer to those tests directly on the site

>>61779003
Yes you can go to BIOS without a GPU.

>>61778883
Presumably. The boards don't have a chipset anymore, its just I/O stuff. And TR4 is basically the server SP3 socket which will have a rather long lifetime.

But then there's stuff like PCIe 4 upcoming

>>61779010
I am not sure what you mean. I link to Jonnyguru on the site.

>>61778858
I was reading HardOCP at work the other day, they go pretty far in-depth.

How long can I use a PSU for before I have to replace it?
I have had my seasonic since 2011. It warranty is finally out (7 years). Should I get a new PSU or continue using it?

>>61778960
A 450E PSU should be enough for almost all upgrades you may do in the future, yes.

>>61779020
You just can't see it

>>61778512
Thanks for the link. I'll probably get a HDD further in but I really don't need it; I keep my PC pretty empty.
One thing I'm worried about is maintenance. Are cases like this hard to maintain/keep dust free?

>>61779037
Exactly that.

What I originally meant was that integrating a quick feedback on PSU build quality based on reviews might be useful, but presumably extremely labour intensive. Like the corsair RMi series being better than the RM series for example.

>>61779068
Probably, I don't know.

>>61779050
You can use a quality PSU until it dies. The protection circuits will prevent it from causing damage should it eventually crap out.

Most common age related failure mode are the caps on the secondary dyig and ripple going through the roof, that just causes your system to get unstable.

You might want to switch it earlier if it doesn't support newer features, like lower power during stand by.

>>61779103
I have a Seasonic X650 which I assume is a good brand. So I should just keep using it till it dies?

And if it dies can I just buy the same model and not have to redo my cables?

>>61779131
Yes, it's a high quality PSU. Like everything from Seasonic (or delta, for that matter). You can keep using it until it dies. If you eventually replace it i would go for a newer model though, so cables might not be backwards compatible.

>>61779080
Oh, you mean like doing a tiny mini review for each item? Because of the extreme space constraints, the most I can do is a sentence or two per item. There is no enough space for much more.

>>61779150
Is the X650 outdated?
I still see it being recommended all the time. The X -series that is.

>>61779180
might not even require a full sentence, as long as data is available from good reviews it might be possible to just give it a number or note.But as i said, that would presumably be a shitload of manual work.

It's not that useful for high end PSUs i assume, but with OEMs like superflower and channel well the OEM alone doesn't say to much about the quality as the spread is so large depending on who and to what standards they manufacture for

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>>61776379

>>61779193
without looking it up, if it's 6/7 years old it probably doesn't support C6/C7 power states for example. While PSUs haven't changed by much, a bit has been happening. If i'm not misinformed the X series is regularly updated.

All i'm saying is that if it eventually goes over the jordan it would be nonsense to buy the same, at this point probably more than a decade old, PSU again instead of one on the current technology level. It's probably not even available anymore at that point.

How exactly is the i5 7640x a good pick for <$1k??? Have fun assembling the rest of your box for <$500 after you spent all your gibs on x processor + fan + overpriced 2066 board.

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WHY DO NONE OF THE THREADRIPPER MOTHERBOARDS HAVE FUCKING THREE PIN FAN HEADERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61779285
>not noticing that the OP is bait

>>61779248
Alright. I hope it keeps chugging till it goes then. Any idea how long a quality PSU will last? 10 years?

>>61779294
> Oh fugg I got baited

>>61779293
Who the fuck powers a 3 pin fan with the mobo instead of a molex adapter?

>>61779293
You know you can plug a 3 pin fan into a 4 pin socket right? Right?

>>61779324
>dude why do you even need fan rpm control lmao

>>61779293
you can plug 3-pin fans into 4-pin plugs, you retard

>>61779338
>>61779343
DUDE
>>61779341

>>61779297
no idea, never seen statistics about that. But with a bit of luck it should do more than 10 years i think. The fan may crap out earlier than the PSU itself, keep an eye on that so it doesn't toast itself to death

>>61776379
You fucked up the OP anon.

>QVL list has ton of memory listed
>Only one has been available on my retailer and it's sold out


What the hell man

>>61779359
3 pin fans don't have PWM

>>61779551
I KNOW THEY DONT

Hey /g/, my friend is looking to get some upgrades on a budget.
Current setup is Athlon II X3 450, R7 250 and an AM3+ mobo (he doesn't know the name)

GTX 1050 Ti is the best option for his budget but I'm sure his X3 450 would bottleneck hard for a newer card like that. What'd be a good cheap CPU that's AM3+? Preferably under $100

>>61779701
You can get a used FX 8350 for under $100
It's the best you'll get for AM3+ in the budget. Just make sure to update the bios on his motherboard prior to installing the FX CPU

>>61779701
anything higher than that would probably blow his shitty motherboard, high-power am3+ processors usually go around 95w but judging by his current processor, i'm not too optimistic about his power delivery

>>61779735
OK. How would one update the bios? He'd be getting the GPU and I'd buy and ship the cpu to him, he's not too computer savvy

>>61779753
His PC is made of some spare parts (CPU, GPU) and some I got for him, His PSU is an Evga 500 watt

>>61779754
the manual has a few pages on that. Don't do it in windows, flash it in from the BIOS. It's just downloading a file, putting it on a correctly formated USB drive, pluggin it into the right USB slot and then selecting in in the BIOS/UEFI

>>61776379
I want more pics of girls having fun around computers. >:(

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hello /g/

i am a 40 year old balding moderately overweight man who wants to build the pc of his dreams

please help me

please review my pc build

i want to play all games at 1440p 60hz+ ultra

also when i'm not wasting my life on vidya i do 3d modeling, animation, video editing, graphic design, streaming, programming, general workstation shit.

i also like watching qhd porn

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9yDHm8

>>61779923
You might want to wait for Vega64 if productivity work is your thing tbqh.

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>tfw can't decide which

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811854039
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119310

>>61779964
the coolermaster. The other one looks like it had a crash while tailgating

>>61779964
>spending ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DOLLARS on a case
Holy shit anon you must be rich.

Imo the Phanteks one looks better, and Phanteks makes some of the best fans out there, too bad they bundled the case with their shitty SP fan and not the MP one.

>>61779964
>166 dollars
>Mid tower
What the fuck? Did they build those towers with gold?

>>61779964
obviously evolv enthoo is the better choice, the other doesn't even have tempered glass

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Should I get pic related? It's a full cover block for CPU and VRM for the motherboard.

As it stands I already have an old EK am3+ capable copper block. The Asus crosshair 6 has mounting holes for am3+ and am4 so installation wouldn't be a problem. For standard to moderate overclocking, is it even worth liquid cooling the VRMs on the X370/Ryzen platform

Pic related is the EK mono-block.

>>61779923
solid build my man

>>61780099
You don't NEED all of that if you're just going to 4GHz on Ryzen. An AIO would be more than sufficient to keep it both cool and quiet.

>>61780099
it's not necessary. Ryzen clocks don't go above ~4.2GHz with luck, they just hit a wall there, no matter how good your cooling. A board with decent heatsinks on the VRMs and a good air cooler are enough to get there.

>>61779805
Ok, thank you for the information

>>61780112
>>61780128
Yea I figured as much I knew that Ryzen didn't have a crazy OC ceiling. Maybe I'll toss together the loop with the parts I have anyway. The loop I have in pieces currently was the same loop I was passively cooling a 5.4ghz clocked FX-9370.

It shouldn't have an issue with a 3.8ghz 1700X passively right?

>>61776744
underrated. australia btfo

>>61776707
Gday cob. I made this build for around $1200 at the time, excluding peripherals . GPU will be much more expensive now though. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LJ8JD8

>>61780235
no, that should need almost 100W less. The VRM heatsinks rely on airflow from other components though, so make sure they stay cool enough if you go full passive

>>61777706
>Facebook machine
>2x8GB
>Ascock
>SSD
Yeah I guess

>>61780280
That's right. I forgot that there VRMs on my FX build would get hot enough to leave Burns on my fingers.

Maybe I'll just invest my money into a beefy too soon cooler as opposed to a tier cooler? Anyone have recommendations? Max budget of $120

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>>61780400
>too soon
Top down*

When will the next batch of AM4 boards come out? For the Ryzen Pro release? Pinnacle Ridge?

>>61780400
top down isn't necessary, the airflow from any aircooler will be enough as long as the board isn't shit. And they provide better cooling performance while being quieter

>>61780419
there will probably be a trickle of new boards in the forseeable future, with spikes of new releases around new products for AM4. The platform will live for some years, and since all its CPUs are SoCs it only has some I/O stuff on it.

>>61780490
I sure hope so. Maybe now that Ryzen turned out to be pretty successful they'll actually make some decent boards.
I've got a feeling none of the manufacturers took the Ryzen release seriously.

>>61780568
at least there were some decent boards, but yeah, not as many as for intel

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>>61780447
So would a cooler like pic related be a waste? My motherboard is the Asus X370 ROG crosshair 6. So it has good VRMs, but it's still be nice to have some direct airflow on them.

It seems the only good options for top down are pic related and the noctua nh-/L12. The noctua one is only $6 cheaper and is overall smaller in all regards.

>>61780681
Nevermind. Disregard that. Apparently this cooler has trouble with clearance on AMD platforms.

>>61780681
>>61780785
it's not necessary. A normal aircooler provides more than enough airflow over the VRM heatsinks and cools better while being more silent

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Is bad if I want 3 mice?
G600 for mmos, M65 for FPS and chroma for regular stuff?

>>61779003
Hey new question.
Will Ryzen ever get integrated gpus?

>>61780869
yes, they will randomly appear in your cpu

>>61780807
Yea that seems to be the general consensus. Maybe I'll see what my 140w, single tower, single fan cooler before throwing $100 at a new one.

>>61780891
No thanks wise guy. I want another (you) answering my question.

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>>61776379
I am looking to purchase a new hard drive. What size is the current best size to price ratio? I would like to keep it under $100 but I don't care if it goes a little over, it's not a strict budget.
Also what are the meme brands I should avoid?

>>61780826
As long as they each have their use, I don't see an issue. I have 2 mice. Corsair M65 for gaming, and a Logitech M570 wireless trackball mouse for general browsing.

>>61780923
Nice, thank you. The M570 is huge by the way.

>>61776379
What should I upgrade my second hand general PC and light gaming build /g/ other than my GPU and PSU? Got this for around £230

>>61780904
Raven Ridge will have a zen cluster and an IGP. If they keep their strategy of using the top end die for Desktop, HEDP and server it will never get an IGP

>>61780904
If you're talking Ryzen as we know of it now? No. Ryzen 1200 through 1800X are not going to get iGPU's. That's the job if the upcoming APUs.

Similar to their old FX line had no iGPU, but their a4,6,8, and 10 series chips did. And with HBM now being used by AMD for their GPU division, it's going to be interesting to see what AMD cooks up. HBM modules as the iGPU ram cache could put their graphical capabilities on par with an RX550 GPU.

>>61780948
forgot link
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hDw2sJ

>>61776688
Doesn't the Mac Pro have AMD GPUs?

>>61780944
>M570 is huge by the way

For (you).
Jokes aside, it is a large mouse. Perfect for my large hands. Very comfy and well worth the $40 I spent.

>>61781012
yes. So does the iMac. Nvidias display engine isn't flexible enough for 5K@60Hz via a single DP connection

>>61780905
2TB HDDs are nice bang for buck
Seagate is to be avoided at all costs. Hitachi and WD are the more reputable brands.

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>>61781043
Thanks

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>murrikan 1070 is 4xx bucks
>yurop 1070 is 6xx bucks

>>61781009
rest should be fine

>>61781043
>Seagate to be avoided at all costs

No. Just no. Seagate had one bad batch of disks back in 2007 and no one is letting go. WD has gone down hill. Current go to brands are
HGST
Seagate
Toshiba

Seagate makes some of the most reliable higher capacity drives right now. Their barracuda, firecuda, ironwolf, and Skyhawk lines of drives are fine.

>>61776379
>Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
till when?

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>>61781090
Something something muh freedums mafugguh something something

>>61780826
Just get an EC1-A (EC2-A if manlet) if you're /v/, Logitech M570 of you're /g/.

>>61781144
I would think maybe a few months, but it could be like this for much longer.
Remember that time is money, so it might just be better to buy now so you can use it for more.

>>61780905
Just go to PC part picker and sort by price per gb

>>61781151
Yeah yeah we need to pay the taxes to keep the terrorists living in houses better than people that work for 40 years can pay

>>61781043
>seagate no
>hitachi yes
this has to be a

>>61781125
toshiba is not that good too

>>61781249
>this has to be a
troll
forgot one word there
also WD is still pretty good, at least better than hitachi or toshiba

>>61780970
>Raven Ridge
what is this?
>>61780977
what in an apu?

>>61781249
Toshiba drives are all based off of Hitachi tech when Toshiba bought back into the HDD game in 2012. Their X300 line of 4+ TB drives are fine. I have 2 of them with thousands of hours each and they're only fault is they're loud when writing heavy. Most importantly, they're usually cheaper by $20-$40 for the same capacity drive as another brand.

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what graphics card should i get? I want to spend as little as possible

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>>61781409
oops, wrong pic

Is a 980ti better than a 1070?
Used 980tis are like 40% cheasper than fucking 1070s here

>>61781009
>>61781122
Is a gtx 1060 6gb and a 550w fine.
Just for playing games like csgo/overmeme/quake champions at 144hz/fps on low graphics @ 1080p?
Also maybe GTA and PUBG around 60fps on medium/high?

>>61781290
their part upcoming zen part with an IPC

>>61781467
should work fine

>>61781451
They trade blows and the 980ti can do the same work as a 1070 at a lower clock. I.e. my 980ti at 1450mhz will match. 1070 at 1650mhz.

The 1070 also has 2GB more vram, uses a bit less juice and is more DX12 capable. However if you can get a 980ti for sub $260, it's not a terrible deal. My EVGA 980ti classified still holds it's own in 60hz 1440p.

>>61781509
>sub $260
this is yiurop you piece of shit, a great deal would be a 400 bucks 980ti since the 1070 is 6xx

>>61781467
>PUBG
No, even 1070 users have to play on low settings to avoid death when they have to render new people or initial jumps

>>61781451
They're about the same. It just depends how much you want to trust that the used card wont blow up next week with no warranty.

>>61781533
Ouch. What resolution are you playing at? Maybe a new gtx 1060 6gb would hold you over? If 1080p 60hz, just get a 1050ti. WTF is happening over in bong-land that even Nvidia cards are so damned expensive? I can get a top of the line non TI gtx 1080 for $570 here in burger world

>>61781586
Just 1080p@60hz

I was trying to buy a 970 or 980 but I'm fucking tired of looking for them and people is fucking retarded so I can just get this shit and resell it in a year or so

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>>61776379
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YPg7NN

can anyone tell me if i'm a retard or not?

i have a MSI 970 4 gig to go with all this other shit.

thanks

>>61781598
Yea then a good 1050ti 4GB would be your best bet. Model with good cooling and a decent factory OC (EVGA SSC dual fan models) go for around $155 here.

>>61781657
looks fine, but take faster RAM from the mainboards QVL.

Also don't waste money on windows

>>61781676
I have a 770 and its not enough for my games so a 1050ti would be retarded as fuck to buy, 1060 6GB would be perfect but its 4xx bucks too

>>61776379
Kill yourself mongoloid

>>61781657
You need faster ram, and you NEED a video card. Ryzen doesn't have integrated graphics so a graphics card is mandatory

>>61781657
>buying a ryzen turd
>100 bucks on windows
>that shitty SSD
>seagate
>16GB ram

End yourself

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>>61781689
how do you install windows on a new hard drive with no disk? initial first time boot from USB drive with cracked copy of windows?

>>61781740
I have an MSI 970 4 gig card i am pairing with all this. why do I need faster ram if the MOBO can only handle 2666 hz for 2 sticks anyway?

>>61781820
Underage people can't post here

>>61781712
Oh I see. Yea 770 to 1050ti gives nothing but less power consumption.

Sucks bro. It's either continue to play the waiting game and hope for a price drop, or just grit your teeth and pull the trigger on a used 980ti or new 1060. Both will be fine for 1080p/60hz. I'd normally recommend a 4GB rx570, but the fucking miners snatched them all up.

>>61781657

just saved you $200

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Hb9D8

>>61781769

the worst part is that he literally skipped the fucking CS1311 PNY SSD for the fucking Kingston and is going to PAY MORE for it, what the fuck

>>61781850
Yeah but the 770 is a fucking 250w hiroshima on its own so I will be fine with a 980ti PSU-wise

also the mining meme is a murrikan thing, the 4GB rx570 you are talking about is 270€ here aka 3xx bucks

But looks like its fucking shit, barely better than the 770

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>>61781848
i'm pushing 30 senpai.

you could just either shush or help instead of waste time calling people underage on a malaysian basket weaving chain letter website to make yourself feel better

>>61781820
you can download the windows 10 .iso legally from microsoft and a ton of other hosters. Burn it on a DVD or create a bootable USB stick. Installing that will give you the 30 day trial version. Just unlock that with the windows loader

>>61781881
>i'm pushing 30
<I don't know how to pirate windows
>I'm too retarded to lurk for a while to understand shit about hardware

Well, if you are really pushing 30 you should consider suicide

>>61781820
The other anons are implying you pirate windows 10, make a boot stick, and go from there. I personally say there is nothing wrong with buying Windows if this is your daily use machine. I have a cracked Windows 7 copy I use for pen-testing and trying out suspect software. Where as I paid $110 for my copy of Windows 10 pro. You do you, and others be damned.

As for the ram, the motherboard only claims stability up to 2666mhz. It depends on the board and memory, but Ryzen supports memory all the way up to 3600mhz or higher. Again, all comes down to the board and ram kit. You're better off getting a 3200mhz or 3000mhz kit and seeing if you can get it to run at that speed. I have the same corsair kit of ddr4-2400mhz. 4x8GB kit and I have no problems. Honestly the RAM speed increase only makes Ryzen a few % better in certain games or applications.

Lastly, what is that build for? Gaming? Editing? An all rounder? Do you intend to do a lot of encoding or shit load of compiling?

>>61781820
X370 boards support 3200 mhz or 3600 mhz ram depending on the board. No clue where you got 2666 from.
Ryzen LOVES fast ram. Ryzen is built with 2 CPU complexes or CCX's as AMD calls them. Each CCX contains 4 cores. The 8 core APUs in the Xbox One and PS4 are similarly built in that respect. What's different is how the CCX's communicate. Ryzen has what's known as the infinity fabric, which is how CCX1 and CCX2 communicate. The Infinity Fabric runs at the bus speed of whichever ram is installed. So fast ram MASSIVELY and DIRECTLY changes how the CPU communicates with itself, which leads to massive performance improvements when jst spending more for faster ram. The current sweet spot for ram speed on Ryzen is 3000 or 3200 mhz.

>>61781898

windows literally creates the bootable UBS itself

>30 day trial version

i seriously hope this is a fuckying pasta

ive been using windows 10 since almost 2 years ago, it says activate on the right-most monitor and i dont even notice it

>>61781915
>The other anons are implying you pirate windows 10, make a boot stick, and go from there.
We aren't saying to pirate Windows 10 you mong. Microsoft will GIVE YOU Windows 10 for FREE on their website. To activate it, which btw only unlocks personalization options, you can buy a $30 key from kinguin and activate it that way.
Do research before assuming we're advocating pirating it.

>>61781924
yeah, but that's annoying

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>>61781920
>No clue where you got 2666 from.
from newegg about this MOBO "

*1 Due to the limitation of AMD Ryzen processors, memory frequencies higher than DDR4 2666 MHz are supported only when using one DIMM."

might bed bullshit, but that's what the website says. thanks for the input

>>61781915
gaming. i'm not poor so i don't really mind spending the 100 on windows. i guess the jews will win this round

>>61781861
thanks, will look this shit up and see if it's stuff i want.

>>61781880
Very true. I remember the 770 being rather hot running too.

However, the rx570 spanks the 1050ti (and thus your 770) in every game at 1080p, and the gap only gets larger when using DX12 as opposed to DX11 because AMD cards have hardware based utilization for that. If the rx570 Is that cheap for you, by all means get it! Link from guru3d for the rx570/580 review. The 1050ti is on the cart as well.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/sapphire_radeon_rx_570_nitro_4gb_review,21.html

>>61781967
>gaming

Drop the r7-1700 down to an r5-1600. The 8c/16t models are great for gaming as well, but meant more for those who will really use the cores and thread elsewhere. The 1600 is the absolute sweet spot for gaming. Plus it comes with the same cooler the 1700 does. Use the $80 or so you save and put it into getting a better SSD. The crucial MX300 line is the best bang for buck here. Only marginally slower than Samsung 850 Evo drives but cheaper.

I'd also consider a different power supply. Something from seasonic or EVGA. For the love of God, don't buy Corsair CX or CM line though.

If I already have a spare PSU, HD7870 and potentially i3-3220t, how feasible would it be for me to build a console-sized PC for 720p gaming for less than $250?

>>61781967
>from newegg about this MOBO "
>*1 Due to the limitation of AMD Ryzen processors, memory frequencies higher than DDR4 2666 MHz are supported only when using one DIMM."
>might bed bullshit, but that's what the website says. thanks for the input
funny Newegg would say that since the OFFICIAL page for that motherboard says it supports up to 3200 mhz
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-A/

>>61782031
>don't buy corsair cx
I just got a cx650 (non modular) for $40 did I fuck up

>>61782090
RIP

>>61781974
Yeah but at that price range I can just buy the 980ti that is a fucking powerhouse or a 1060 6GB that shit on it

Ayyymd is not a fucking option since the 7xxx cards was a thing

>>61782090
$40-ish could have gotten you a 520w seasonic bronze or EVGA 500B.

So yea. I had 3 CM750 units and a CX430M unit all die on me. Just click off and never turn on again. All of them were at most, at 35% rated load their entire lives. CX and CM are lowest of the low tier. Back your data up frequently.

>>61782167
Hawaii was way better than GK110, especially in the long run

Which one is better?
https://www.newegg.com/global/de/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABFS5J77259
https://www.newegg.com/global/de/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIABFS5NZ1865

>>61782327
>https://www.newegg.com/global/de/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIABFS5NZ1865
if I had to pick between those.

>>61782171
sounds fun, pray for me.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CnqMWX

Anything I should change before I commit? Only using it for gaymen. Should I be worried if I can't find the RAM on the board's qvl?

>>61782327
>newegg selling on yiurop
>worse prices than amazon

You got me hyped for a second

>>61782439
Looks fine to me. Although I'd throw in a cheap 1 or 2TB mechanical drive for general storage and backup.

And as far as ram on the motherboard support list, if it isn't, it just means there's a chance the ram won't run at advertised speed or timings or you'll have to manually set speed and timings. The PC will still boot, but at default timings and 2133 speed.

I have the same kit, but the 2400mhz CL14 version. It ran fine and all I had to do was set the AMD equivalent of XMP. I have the Asus X370 crosshair though.

>>61781179
with bitcoin price keeps growing i don't think it will be back to normal price for a while, at least one or two years

>>61777173
Just give it away, no point to continue now.

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>>61777173
>got into custom water cooling
>my $500 worth of parts gets here from FrozenCPU after waiting 3 weeks for a GPU backplate to get back In stock
>go to mount the block on the CPU
>it uses spring loaded screws.
>drop one off the screws, spring goes God knows where
>I have carpeted floors
>search for 2 hours to no avail
>reach out and order another set of screws, takes ANOTHER 5 days of waiting
>find the spring 10 minutes after placing my order for another set because I stepped on it.

Motherfucker.

>>61781409
>>61781419
1030/1050/1050ti, depensing on your budget.

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What a shitty timing for AMD to come out with a new CPU. Everything that's not a HDD, PSU or a CPU is way overpriced atm. A 1030 costs around 70 bucks but if you actually want some animation on your screen (1050ti) you're looking at 230 bucks when they are available. They were 130 and below just 6 months ago. SSD, RAM an all that shit is also way too expensive.

Should I really not get an r5 like the OP says, or was it written by a shill?

>>61783025
very subtle bait
>>61782439
looks good - here's mine to compare
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

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>>61783055
goddammit I always fucking do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDRPpb

My spec:
CPU: i3 4160
GPU: asus r7 250x
Mobo: msi z87 g43
Ram 4x2gb 1333mhz
I play in 1080p 60hz and im not going to change it anytime soon
So is it still worth it to buy i7 4790 (price 320$ ) i'm also going to buy 16gb ram 2400mhz and gtx 1060 6gb

500w psu good enough for vega 56 and 6600k?

>>61783210
just buy one used once the i3 isnt enough anymore

>>61783210
>>61783251
but aside from that, it's definetly not worth 320$. You could get an R5 1600+board for that

I would like to have a home server. What kind of hardware should I look for ? I have read a few anons talking about hpe gen8 being good. Is there any recent hardware similar ? Or should I take a ryzen 3 and built one myself ? I got a 600€ budget.

>>61783269
Prices in my country are higher about 20% than in usa (23% sales tax)

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Just bought this to fix a hot aging gpu and feed it a lil' more air. Did I fuck up?

I want to have lots of sex with that girl

Or guy whatever it is really

>>61783340
if you can mount that fan on it, nah

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https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16883102271
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16883102270

Which one of these pig disgusting pre-builts is the better one? They're practically equal in price

>>61783619
depends

>>61782957
Thanks, im thinking of buying a gtx 770 from ebay now though, they are the same price as 1030

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>>61783642
Looking to use them for gaming, leaning toward whichever one would be best for further upgrading in the future

Also wondering if I could put a 3TB internal HDD inside it with no problems.

>can't preorder vega 56
>probably gonna be snagged up by cryptoniggers before I even get a chance

Is the shit in OP about bugs in Ryzen atm just some intelfag memeing or is there a real issue going on right now? Don't want to pull the trigger on this order if I'm gonna be fucked.

>>61783690
The second one is better for gaming, obviously. Both have the Intel H110 chipset and the same case, so there isn't really a better choice for upgrading.

>>61783838
Where can one pre-order a vega 56

>>61783896
Anon read my post again

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>>61783890
>obviously

Not obvious to me. Why? The GTX 1080?

And while I have you here, is the RAM really slow, or is it a decent speed?

>>61783921
Yes, which site can one have a chance to pre order one

>>61783974
I haven't found any that's my problem. I just sent an email to a dutch vendor asking when they'll have them in stock and if I'll have the chance to pre-order before that.

>>61784017
Oh. I was wondering if i could preorder one off amazon or newegg. I heard preorder won't be available until aug 14?? I don't really want a founders edition tho and i want a partner's card.

>>61784062
Partner cards are probably going to be release in early september desu. Official release is the 14th.

>>61784076
Is there really any big difference between partner cards and founders?

>>61783961
Yeah, it's the 1080. I'd say the RAM is fast enough with 2400 MHz. And if you want to play games @ 4K, the amount is more important than the speed.

>>61784103
>Higher stock clocks
>better cooler
>edgy design
>LEDs
Only worthwhile thing is the cooler desu. But if those leaks about the reference card beating the 1070 by 20% are true then I'm satisfied with reference.

My case fan got audible recently. What are some decent silent 120mm fans?
It's exhaust one with no obstructions so airflow should be more important than pressure, right?

>>61784138
Shouldn't we be getting actual benchmarks around this time?

>>61784207
NDA doesn't lift until the 14th

>>61783690
H110 has shit vrm and shit pci lanes
prob has a housefire psu as well
ibuypower or cyverpower or some other rip off service that lets you spec parts is better than either.

>>61784129
Isn't it DDR4 2133?

>Bought 1080 Ti
>Might as well buy 1440p 144hz jewsync monitor as well
>The damn things cost almost as much as the GPU

Is the bump in resolution really worth it?

>>61784567
You should've waited for vega benchmarks to see if it'd beat the 1080ti. Could've avoided jewsync that way.

>>61784567

I don't buy into the 144hz meme personally simply because far too many games can't (or in practical terms, won't) run that fast and nobody cares about Chip's Challenge at 144fps. The increase in resolution surei s tasty but i'd prefer a 4k 60fps screen (might as well go G-sync at this point).

>>61784670
>>61784679
Also this, 144hz is only kinda usefull in competetive online vidya. So unless you only play that, get a 4K display.

>>61784469
Oops, your'e right. I looked it up on the first link, there it's 2400. Sorry

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>>61784453
Oy vey, do you think it would be worth it to just upgrade the mobo then? I don't think I can even get a GTX1080 by itself these days, everyone seems to be sold out

>>61784859
How much of a difference does 267 make?

>1700 + 16GB 2666 or
>1600X + AiO + 16GB 3200
Both 1600/1600X are the same price here
I do encode, but seems like there is no big difference between stock 1700/1600x, like 2-3fps (~10%)

>>61777608
>>61777207
i got 1x16 @2133 on ebay for 96 usd.watch the listings.

Do they make touchscreens for mini-itx motherboards?

>>61785019

Option C

>1600x, 3200mhz ram and a decent air cooler

Don't buy an AIO.

>>61785019
High end air cooler will be equal performance to AIO but is cheaper (~50% or more depending which model)

For Ryzen always get the highest speed RAM, it loves that and you'll get noticeable increases.

>>61785018
Well I think and hope you won't feel a big difference when you're playing games, but I can't guarantee this.
Is there anyone around here who has some experience with this kind of configuration and gaming?

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WHY IS ETHER GOING BACK UP

I have heard kinguin is no good for Windows Ten keys. I have heard this from a reputable person who you would share prejudices and an inclination towards racial epithets with and who you would like very much.
Please tell me how I might best pirate Windows Ten so that I can save valuable dollars!

Will playing vidya in 1440p on a 4K monitor look noticably blurry? My system won't be able to push a Vega 64 for 4K so I'm probably going for a 56 until I can afford an entire system upgrade so I can push a more powerfull card.

>>61785301
Use Linux instead of Windblows

>>61785320

Its not going to be great as 1440p doesn't multiply into 4k evenly.

Is it worth it to buy a sound card?

>>61785350
Well fug. I don't really want to buy a 1440p monitor because I know in like a year or 2 I'll want a 4K monitor. I guess I'll wait for benchmarks for the 56 and 64 to see if my old i5 3570k and 550 watt PSU can support it.

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**NEEDS GPU**
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rWngM8
I wanna keep the budget below $700 (a bit over is fine).
Planning for general use + medium gaming (nothing competitive basically).
I just need a GPU and I should be good to go.
Open to basically any other suggestions though.

>>61785383
Just buy an external DAC, and only if you have a good pair of headphones. You aren't going to notice a difference with some shitty gaming headset or apple earpods.

>>61785387

You could always run at 1080p with ludicrous amounts of MSAA as 4k is four times 1920x1080.

>>61785412
Yeah but I might as well just buy a 1060 and keep this monitor at that point. I've got 1000 eurobucks to use which is only enough for either
>upgrade everything except GPU and monitor
>upgrade GPU and monitor
Life is suffering.

>>61785383
No. If you have to ask you don't need one.

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Anons, the internal parts for my first PC just arrived, I bought them all off of amazon, and the graphics card came like this, no box, no manual, just the card in bubble wrap and a mostly blank box that says "Jabra", when I bought it it said it was new.

Why did I get just the card by itself?

Should I try to get a refund or replacement for this?

Should I use it in my PC for the time being when my case gets here tomorrow?

>>61785495
Don't even take it out of the box. Ask for a replacement immediately.

>>61785495
get it replaced. new means in box. not in bubblewrap (which can be statically charged and kill the GPU)

>>61785409
>>61785472
Are you saying that wearing studio headphones and blasting Protomen wouldn't be significantly more fabulous with a sound card?

>>61785620
No I'm saying you should get an external DAC because they're superior in every way.

Looking for a storage HDD on the cheap. Found an HGST DeskStar 3tb for $50 but it's a refurb. At that price is it worth the risk or should I just get a 1tb WD Black or something.

>>61785669
I googled it and I'm still not sure what it is. What is an external DAC and how is it going to help me light up the night?

>>61785755
If you want a soundcard and don't even know what a dac is you shouldn't get a fucking soundcard. Without looking it up, what is a soundcard anon?

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I'd like the least data harvesting M$ OS. Is that 7 or 8.1? Please don't suggest Linux, I am not hardcore enough for that, senpai.

>>61785833
Your soundcard works perfectly
Your soundcard works perfectly
Your soundcard works perfectly
Enjoying yourself?
Your soundcard works perfectly
Your soundcard works perfectly
Your soundcard works perfectly
It doesn't get any better than this.

>>61785889
10 Enterprise LTSB

>>61785914
What the fuck are you on about

Im buying windows 10 for xbox one games

>>61785962
why buy it?

Is there a difference between having a 1x16GB 3000mhz RAM stick and 2x8GB 3000mhz RAM sticks?

>>61785049
>>61785080
I wish, but there is only TX3 EVO or Riing Silent 12 Pro Blue (even more expensive) as an option
Really, ootb are these + masterliquid 120.

>Riing ~$92
>AIO ~$70
>TX3 EVO ~$33
Thanks.

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>>61785935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_A1GNx0M9M

>>61785925
>10
Anon, do you just not like Nue or something? I can post a different 2hu, here.

>>61785988
kek

>>61785988
Did I say 10?

No, I said 10 Enterprise LTSB.

>>61785985
2x8GB will run in dual channel for twice the bandwidth

>>61786020
Alright 2x 8 it is then

>>61785408
the whole build is shit
you're welcome

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>>61785514
>>61785532
It's already being sent for a refund.

On closer inspection of the box it seems it had already been to a return center before.

Why is this shit allowed?

>tfw have to wait up to two weeks to order a new one
>tfw all the sellers are third party so this sorta shit could easily happen again

>>61786278
Order somewhere else then

>>61783015
Buy two 1030s and SLI

>>61786278
remember to leave a shit review
ecommerce sites fuck sellers hard if they have a bad reputation

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>>61786278
Also, since all the other parts I need are here, would temporarily dusting off and using this GPU from an old family PC that got killed by viruses be a good idea?

I know it's shit in terms of performance but will it cause any problems when I want to replace it with the GTX 1050 ti?

What monitor should I go with for around $250? I have a 1050ti if that makes a difference and I'll also be using it for my Xbone.

>>61786278
Send a customer support email to amazon (this helps if you are a prime member and it was a prime item), and rant about what happened. They should give you some free amazon prime or account credit or something.

>>61786540
Get a nice IPS panel 1080p 60hz monitor. Samsung makes ones with really nice image

>>61785982
So i not need to?

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>>61786005
I don't understand why any version of 10 would phone home less, please explain senpai. Fake news somewhat related

Also wondering, will I still be able to play new games with 7 in a year? 7 seems the most XP-like.

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So please tell me what is the sanest price I should pay for a build?

I'm no poor fellow, but I'm not rich as fuck either.

I don't know how high I should set my budget.

>>61785755
Get a Fulla 2 or go ask in /hpg.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fKVv9W

I want to get on the 7820x superiority chain, but what case should I put all of this in? It can't be some shitty case that everyone else is using.

>>61785982
Cause thats the only way of getting it without being arrested?

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>>61786790
heh nice meme

>>61786783
Neat, they even ship to Canada. Thanks.

Here's what I came up with for my budget Ryzen build for casual gaming. Going to add another identical RAM kit later, and I already have an SSD to put in it. Did I do OK, /g/?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HzLmM8

>>61786885
Buy faster ram (>3000mhz). Also the PSU might be shit but I'm not sure.

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>>61786304
Is this one a good replacement?
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Windforce-128-bit-Graphic-GV-N105TWF2OC-4GD/dp/B01M6Y671T/

Will it work just as well as link below, the one I was going to get?
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-04G-P4-6253-KR/dp/B01MF7EQJZ/

Also someone pls respond to >>61786506 I just want to build my PC and start using it then wait until my new GPU arrives to start playing some serious vidya

>>61786855
Unless your onboard audio is total garbage, you probably don't need one, but they're a handy device. I use mine to control the volume on active monitors.