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/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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If you want help:
>Assemble parts list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>State the budget for your build (and country if not USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
How to assemble a PC, select components & more (outdated)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC

CPUs:
No i5 unless discounted
>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (<$500)
>R3 1300x - Good stop-gap between the 1500x and the 1200, only get a 1400 if you absolutely need multithreading
>R5 1500x - Good but up to 1600 if you can
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; 1600x if you want higher stock clocks
>R7/Used Xeon/Threadripper - Compute/Multitask/VM/mixed use; Not for just gaming

GPUs:
Coin miners have driven price up and stock down, waiting to buy a GPU might be wiser
>Integrated CPU Graphics - Desktop stuff and very light games
>GTX 1050(Ti) - Lower end budget cards, drop settings on newer games, RX560 beaten by both
>RX570 - 1080p@60~hz maxed, running most maxed older games at 100~Hz
>RX580 and GTX1060 6GB - 1080p@80hz maxed, 1440p@60hz at lower settings; RX580 better in newer games
>GTX 1070 - 1080p@130hz /1440p@60hz at high
>GTX 1080 - 1080p@144hz / 1440p@60hz maxed, 4k@60hz in a few games; Probably the highest end card you need for 1080p/1440p
>GTX 1080Ti - 1440p@144hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games
>Vega soon.

RAM:
>Check your Mobo QVL before buying any RAM
>Ryzen CPUs benefits a lot from high speed RAM

General:
ALWAYS LOOK AT PRODUCT REVIEWS!
Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later
NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor.
The Ryzen lineup comes with surprisingly good stock coolers. consider using them over any <$30 cooler.

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Is this good? I'll buy RX570 later after price drops
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>>61742539
the cpu is nice for gaming but i heard it warms up a little too much
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mxzs3F

Office computer.
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>>61742575
why would ut? low tdp and 14nm,with proper soldered heatspreader
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>>61742598
cpu is too expensive for an office computer and even for gaming
Ryzen at the moment has the best price/performance ratio and I'm not shilling
Consider a ryzen 1300
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>>61742629
then you have to get a gpu though. thats where (in my opinion) ryzen fails to deliver.
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>muh smooth gameplay
AMD BTFO.
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i fucked up. shit internet so windows media creation tool kept failing. i built a new pc, reused hard drive from old system. wont boot to win10.
what am i supposed to do, and how?
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>>61742539
If you don't have a gpu already, you're gonna need something.

>>61742598
If it's just an office computer, you might as well get a g4560. If you can wait, you could also consider amd apus.

>>61742754
Find away to make the tool. Via laptop, friend's computer, library, whatever. Alternatively, install gentoo.
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>>61742754
download iso (torrent) make bootable usb with something like rufus

>>61742846
can the g4560 actually do much? day you have a spreadsheet, document, browser tabs and skype open i dont think it could do it
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Can I overclock a ryzen 1700x to 4.0ghz with a prebuilt water cooler?
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>>61742961
probably. reaching a certain number doesnt really do anything though
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M4xCRG
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>>61742846
>>61742950
yeah, i have no access to another laptop or computer, so it makes it more difficult, and i frequent 4chan so i have very little friends in person
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im interested in VR. This is my current build, built about 2 years 3 months ago.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ps9Ppb

Im reasonably happy with its performace, although the GPU is starting to run warmer and louder.

Is it worth it to just upgrade the GPU to a 1060GB or 1070 for the sake of VR (maybe a vive)? or is the dead socket and 4c/4t cpu not gonna last. considering making a whole new build but then i couldent afford a vive for a while after that
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>>61743127
so why not do what i said? torrent works on the worst of connections
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nGgNbj
Is this fine ? GPU and storage will be from the old PC, waiting for GPU prices to go back to normal
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Work related usage: matlab, altium, ltspice, excel. No gaming for now, in the future I want to get a top end gpu for simracing with VR. I went with be quiet because I want a silent pc. I would like to run a slight overclock if I can. I will migrate the GPU (AMD R7 360), HDD and all peripherals from my current PC.

Any recommended changes for this build? Don't include gpu or go above 1000€. I am from Slovenia.
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>>61742511
People still build PCs? I stopped doing that around 2009 when the gap between mid range hardware and cutting edge hardware narrowed to the point where it no longer mattered except for spergs

You guys are all just a bunch of benchmark spergs aren't you
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>>61743749
Enjoy buying prebuilt at 150% component price then
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Is there a good way of getting Office 2016 without paying hundreds of bucks for it? Getting sick of Libre office and most of the keyshops I looked at looked really weird and only send a key card via actual mail.
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is there any monitors guide?
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>>61743809
You are in the wrong thread.
>>61730021
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>>61743772
I didn't know you could buy laptop components individually at a lower price than the entire laptop already assembled

Do you have a lot of friends in China?
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>>61743772
kek, I saw a few days ago a prebuilt PC for nearly 3000€ euros and it didn't even have a 1080 TI.
Put a lot of hard drive space, some shitty nox stuff and inflated the price for no fucking reason
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>>61743843
Actually as a matter of fact yes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huaqiangbei
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>>61743854
>look up an example of the most absurd possible alternative
>look I'm not buying that so this totally makes sense
Yeah I enjoy building a car out of random scrapped junkyard parts because someone in Dubai bought a Bentley and superglued diamonds to it. Totally not a waste of time!
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>>61743877
Neat, well I don't speak Chinese and my 5 year old computer is doing just fine. Maybe for the next round assuming the "desktop OS" meme is not already dead by then. I'm pretty sure I'm just going to end up doing all my non-work stuff on a tablet with a keyboard plugged into it 5 years from now.
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>>61743854
You are the kind of guy I make money from. Keep it that way good goy.
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>>61743883
Absurd? You retarded faggot. You know what's a false analogy? Building cars is not the same as building computers. Almost ALL gamers prefer to build their own game rigs unless they are so wealthy they can throw away 4000 dollars to have a top-tier rig.

All pre-built computers will cost at least 50% more of the total component price.

You can go to the shop, buy all components separately and ask them to assemble it and it would still be cheaper
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IS there a noticeable difference between a 60hz and a 75hz monitor? How much more would you pay for the faster one?
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>>61743911
ahn? I don't get it
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>>61743930
>gamers
Oh, you're one of those people. No wonder, jesus christ. Have fun sending death threats to some female youtuber because she made the mistake of revealing her gender in a discussion about doom or whatever
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>>61742511
if a demon captured you and said you needed to spend 10k on a pc and peripherals for a gayming PC, what would you get?
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>>61743952
I never said I was a gamer. I barely have time to play. I get home everyday by around 21, have dinner, play a little fps and go to bed.

But I'm not a retarded that makes absolutely no research before buying anything.

You can't buy car parts and assemble it since you I don't have the knowledge. But you can see a 10 minutes tutorial of how to assemble a PC, spend other 20 minutes looking up advises on parts for a PC and buy it and build it yourself.
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>>61743883
>I enjoy building a car out of random scrapped junkyard parts

I mean that's fine, but buying new parts to put together in a PC is not random junkyard parts.
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>>61743743
m.2 drives are a meme in all but very specific workloads, none of which you have listed. get an 850 instead.

>>61743825
not here

>>61743809
become a student

>>61743940
personall i wouldn't upgrade for anything less than 144hz, it's a waste.
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What i should know before i buy a mobo? I have 2 DDR3 memory and a AM3+ processor.
I will have a problem if i buy the cheapest one? What's the most important thing to know before i buy?
This is the mobo i have right now. She's good?

I have posted this in the previous thread and she was archived. Someone asked me which processor i have, it's a AMD FX-8120.
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>>61744006
>you can't build a car because you don't know how
>you can build a pc even though you don't know how because you can waste time learning how
Look buddy, I was putting cards into slots and changing IRQ settings before you were born. It used to be a thing, back when you could save real money, and high end vs low end hardware were vastly different

What I am telling you is that it's a pointless timesink now, in 2017. Maybe if you're a professional bitcoin miner or something like that, then buying a lot of hardware on newegg and assembling it yourself is worth the effort. Or a pathetic "gamer" who threatens to kill people because he got "fragged" by a person with the wrong genitals

And yes, looking up tutorials and freaking out about "ryzen" and watercooling is a timesink

Now, you might argue that you think it's fun, and if so, I'd say, fine. Do what makes you happy

But it doesn't make you "smart" any more than changing your phone wallpaper makes you "smart". Of course /g/ would disagree because installing unetbootin and following a guided setup menu is a major life accomplishment
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>>61743983
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jkG6WX
i can make a pc with maybe 10%~ less performance with 4k though
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>>61744044
You'll need to make sure you grab a motherboard compatible with the FX chips then. Personally, I'd recommend the Asus 970 Pro Gaming Aura.
It's decent enough.

If you can, look for someone locally selling an AMD FX-8350. It'll be a much better CPU. You can usually find them for $50
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jntWGX/asus-motherboard-970progamingaura
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I currently have FX-6300 with no plans to upgrade, RX 480 4GB with Freesync monitor. Because the prices of mining GPUs are so crazy and the RX 480 is probably overkill for the CPU I've preordered a cheap RX 560 4GB and plan to sell the 480. Do you think I'll notice much difference in 1080p?

btw, I know the big flaw in this plan is that the price of RX 480 will fall while I wait for RX 560 to come into stock so would sell the 480 now and temporarily reinstall my 7870.
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>>61743036
>reaching a certain number doesnt really do anything though

question mark
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>>61744133
Cancel the order and just keep the 480. You're spending money for no reason
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>>61744112
I'm from Brazil. Eletronics here are godamnt expensive, it's hard to do a CPU upgrade.
For example, the mobo that you recommend costs $89,99 in amazon, and that's suposed to be R$281,80 in my country money.
Let's double this price, just for fun. $179,92 is R$563,60. It's a fair price for you? Now look at the cheapest one i could find.
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>>61744162

Thanks, anon. I accept your advice.
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>>61744172
wow. You are fucked. Have fun.
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>>61744208
Also.
>you can usually find them for $50
$50 = R$156,57
Let's double the price again, why not? $100 = R$313,15.
Triple the price? $150 = R$469,72
The cheapest one i could find. Someday i will live as illegal immigrant in USA and i will build a nice computer for a fair price.
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>>61744172
Your country has importation corruption, you're not alone though this happens even in the EU, and poor Australians have it worse as far as I'm concerned.
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When passing a video card through to a virtual machine when do you add the second card? Using linux. Will I need to boot the machine with both cards in there? The instructions say to blacklist the drivers that use the second card to make the system ignore it.

Running hardline water cooling and this needs to be planned a bit to avoid a pain in the ass.
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>>61744254
Can't you just order from a non brazilian seller?
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First for Threadripper
Ripping them wipe open summer '17
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>>61744284
>giving an attacker a red carpet onto the host OS
If you insist on being a gayming babby you need to compartmentalize everything on its own hardware
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>>61744311

What? How does running a virtual machine open anything up? Only one attack I have heard of breaks containerization and that was some hacker event thing that was immediately fixed. The host OS doesn't touch the second card it should change nothing in the host os.
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>>61744254
Is this why sopa de macao poster gets butt hurt with AMD? Can't he just pay some fag to sneak it through customs without paying chimp tax?
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>>61744281
australia is canada-tier and while it's shitty, it's nowhere near as bad as brazil
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>>61744341

I always wonder this. We should crowdfund a smuggler into these countries once a year to help out fellow anons.
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>>61744281
Not only importation corruption, they stole in everything.
Every citizen here lost at least 6 months of wage just paying taxes and the goverment uses this money to pay lazy people that "work" for them.

>>61744290
Sadly is not that easy. We also have importation taxes. The goverment holds the product and only give to you afer you pay it.
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>>61742950
>can the g4560 actually do much? day you have a spreadsheet, document, browser tabs and skype open i dont think it could do it

G4560 owner here. It can do that perfectly well.
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>>61744348

I think Canada is just the currency right? Its not actual imports.
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>>61744341
Well, i don't know about that, but it must be only a coincidence. Give me a intel CPU name with his price in dollars and i can show you that is also too expensive here.
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>>61744044
really just make sure your motherboard actually supports the processor you have
also, be careful with that motherboard. only revision 4.0 and higher actually support the 8120
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>>61744368
i thought australia's was about 10-20% more than USA prices even with exchange rate?
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>>61744356
Oh well don't worry anon, I'm sure you can buy a computer eventually, just save up some more and improve your situation, don't get mugged by sopa de macacos.
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question. in light of recent memes. Why doesn't Intel rename Coffee Lake into Covfefe Lake?
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>>61744383
I have the rev 5, don't worry.
So i can buy anything that is compatible, right? I have these two babies with a acceptable price. Which one i should pick?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rvMFf7/asus-motherboard-m5a78lmlxplus
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C2mxFT/asus-m5a78l-m-plususb3-micro-atx-am3-motherboard-m5a78l-m-plususb3

>>61744416
Thanks, anon. Uma delícia.
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>>61744281
tfw your country wants to crack down at import corruption but ends up making the price for imported item more expensive because it's harder to pass border security now.
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Is the promise of a long life for AM4 something people take into account when choosing?

I'm sick of Intel. Even now they're actually responding to Ryzen with Coffee Lake, they're still keeping the tradition of requiring a new motherboard purchase. I think the reason they really do it is to make people try to "future proof" their CPU because it's more expensive to upgrade. I know I do

Is it realistic to buy a mid-tier X370 motherboard and expecting to use it for eight years, through several CPU upgrades?
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>>61744679

Doubt it. First you probably dont need to upgrade cpu for awhile they are powerhouses and speed isnt growing much on intel side.

Second its a new architecture they will learn shit and have better motherboards.

You would need to wait for the 2nd or 3rd gen to get that kind of thing.
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>>61744032
>m.2 drives are a meme in all but very specific workloads, none of which you have listed. get an 850 instead.
I did some research and it turns out they really are a meme. I already have a 850 in my current PC so i just saved 120€, should I put that money into something else?
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So apparently the asshole dumbfuck at the PC shop ""forgot"" to include the HDD cage in the delivery. PSU cable is totaly blocking most of the CD drive bay so i dont think it would fit there either. The fuck do i do now?

I've operated SSDs at the bottom of case before, but will "normal" HDD's also do this without problems? Should i turn it upside down for better airflow? I also got one of these HDD fans which i could put underneath so it doesnt touch the case but then said hdd fan's metal encasing would touch it instead
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>>61742511
there should be a lossless version of this pic out there
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>must provide proof of purchase of ryzen/am4 to noctua to receive mounting hardware

Ebin :DD another three weeks of waiting from I actually buy the fucking components
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>>61744987
Running HDD at the bottom of the case should be fine although the vibrations might irritate you
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>>61745037
>>61745037
I think i'm going for the hdd case fan option though, putting it underneath for the time being should absorb said vibrations somewhat i think

Jesus i hope the asshole sends that missing hdd cage (which i paid for in the case price mind ya) ASAP or else he's going to have a paypal reimbursement case on his hands real quick kek
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>>61744962
Your build is pretty solid otherwise considering you don't care about gayming for the present moment. Personally I would spend a bit more on a case, and also move to a better psu, with gold efficiency, but those things don't really matter. Spend the extra 120 earoshekels on a prostitute or something.
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How much quieter is a stock Ryzen cooler compared to a stock Intel cooler?
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should I go for 2 x 1080p monitors with a GTX 1060 6gb build

or

1 4k monitor with a 1070 gtx and pay extra


fuck I'm in Europe as well so this setup would be at least 1500-1600 euros (1800$)

what do?
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>>61745204
Googling will give you objective benchmarks
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>tfw reference cards look sexy but have awful cooling
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>>61745206
go the 1060 - more productivity, you'll hit 60fps reliably and it'll take you a while to develop the autism necessary to justify buying and powering a 4k monitor.
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>>61745206
1 4k
Tile it as 4 1080 screens if you really want a multimonitor experience
Physical multimoniter setups are a tired meme from last decade that's rightfully falling out of style
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I'm looking for an IPS panel to plug my Switch on. Do you guys have any ideas of good IPS panels that'd give me the same image quality than the Switch has in portable mode? Inb4 muh gaymer.
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>>61745297
>2x1080p is more productive than 1x4k
??
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>>61745303
>Physical multimoniter setups are a tired meme from last decade that's rightfully falling out of style
What?

>>61745312
Of course it is. Is your desk 1 meter x 1 meter?
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>>61745368
what the fuck are you even talking about
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>>61745303
i think ill go with you on this, i have a 24" 4k monitor at work and I just end up splitting windows instead of using my secondary 1080p monitor
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>>61745462
isn't 24" a bit too small for 4k?
When I did calculations, 32" seemed to be the sweet spot to not require the use of scaling
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>>61745494
it is, its an old one, I wanna go with https://www.amazon.de/Acer-UM-PR0EE-001-RT280Kbmjdpx-Monitor-schwarz/dp/B01KCLMHNY/ref=sr_1_12?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1501944596&sr=1-12&keywords=4k+monitor


Plus Im not gonna play video games on two monitors
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>>61745518
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jx9pPs

I don't know what I'm doing
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>>61745562
>>61745518
not sure about those monitors, are you sure you chose well?
How much approx do 32" IPS 4k go for ?
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>>61745312
Unless your 4k screen is literally twice as tall and long as the 1080p screen, you have more screen real estate with 2 screens. I have 3 screens at work and 2 for my personal setup, can't imagine life without them, for any sort of production task.
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>>61743832
Thanks lad, got my key
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>>61745609
3 times as much. I'm not sure I just chose the one thats on discount, 28" and 4k for 300 euros is pretty good, no? what could go wrong
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What's a good sub-$100 cooler for a Ryzen 1700x? Prob just overclocking to 1800x levels. Are there any adequate ones around $50?
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>>61745656
H7
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I'm in the process of doing incremental upgrades to my FX8350 rig. The CPU is starting to show its age.

I'm stumped on which motherboard to get for socket AM4. I can't afford an x399 right now so I'm looking at the higher end x370 boards. What do you guys recommend if I plan on getting a Ryzen 5 1700 and doing heavy overclocking? Lurking previous threads tells me ASUS is probably the way to go right now.
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>>61745645
>what could go wrong
That you will get high pixel density, but overall shitty monitor
But I guess if the next better thing is 3 times as much, there's not much choice to have
Or you could get a QHD IPS 24" for 200-250, but that's less pixels than 2x1080p, but still at least a single screen without bezels inbetween
>>61745635
By your logic a 50" 768p monitor would be more screen real estate than a 15" FHD then
2x1080p provides the same size horizontally but will be two times less vertically than 4k
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>>61745712
Why do you need a X370?
B350 is good enough
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>>61745719
Yes, but rather than having 24 inches of physical space to use as screen, you can have 48 inches. I can understand screensplitting a single 4k screen if you only do graphics and visual-based work, or if you have the eyesight of a hawk, but for the work that I do ie. writing code, have two screens with more space is much more useful.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGbDRG

just got back money from a large settlement. figured i'd spend it on something to shitpost and brag about on /g/ and /r/eddit
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Just finished my new build and my monitor is now a major bottleneck in need of upgrading. I'm running an i7/1080 and looking to buy a 144hz monitor. That part's OK. What I don't fully understand is: should I buy a 1080p or 1440p monitor?
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>>61745908
Impressive dude. What was the settlement for?

>>61745937
For most games you won't hit 144hz on a 1440p screen with a 1080 - even a 1080ti can't do that yet. If you have the money to spend, get the 1440p screen though.
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>>61745999

Thanks, I think I'll go 1440p. I've realized it always seems better to future proof a bit when buying computer parts.
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>>61745204
I went from a noisy 1055T stock fan to a spire and telling you the truth, I cannot hear it ever and it cools very well.
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my pc has become a wind turbine. my 300r (case) rattles a shit load now and my 212evos fan sounds like its about to take off. so im thinking of changing the case and fan (or even cooler?). what case is nice and quiete while still looking good i remember back then the define r3 and 2 were all the rage, now im not too sure. and fan, noctua right?
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is the Noctua NH-U12S adequate for OC ryzen? D15 seems really big
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>>61746410
yes it even ocs on stock a bit
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My friend wants to upgrade his GTX 670 @1080p

should he get a 1050TI?
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I need a new GPU, nothing to fancy. Was thinking between 1050TI or cough up a bit more and get 1060 3GB. Please help me make up my mind.
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>>61746518
If you're gonna get a 1060, get a 6gb version. It's well worthi t.
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>>61746518

get a 1060 6gb and you'll be set for a couple years
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>>61746410
Why not get the H7 then?
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>>61746629
>>61746603
>>61746518
What these anons said
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>>61746518
>>61746603
>>61746629
>>61746706
To expand on this a little bit, a few years ago a 2gb 960 was considered the sweet spot for 1080p gaming, but ever since games like GTA V came along games can use up to 4gb (or more) of VRAM. I would suggest getting a 1060 6gb, the cheapest one listed on PCPartPicker is 259.99 which is only 40 bucks more than the cheapest 1060.
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>>61746724
>>61746603
>>61746629
>>61746706
The 580 is better than the 1060 6gb so if you live somewhere where you can still find a 580 at MSRP, get the 580 instead.
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>>61746656
Any experience on how long it takes for CRYORIG to send out the AM4 adapter?
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>>61746739
>>61746724
>>61746706
>>61746629
>>61746603
Fuck, getting the 3gb version is already going over my budget but I can wait a bit, my only conern is if my 650w PSU will suffice.
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103202

Anybody tried one of these before? It's only $5 more than a 212 EVO, thinking about it
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>>61747090
More than you will ever need. The only time you might wanna play safe with more than 650w on a single card build is when you use power hungry cards like the 290x or the Vega water cooled.

I am using a 650w PSU with a 7700k and a 1080ti
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>>61747090
650 should be plenty for any one-GPU build up through 1080Ti
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>>61747209
Unless you are running an OC AIB 290x
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>>61747090
also, seriously seriously get a 6GB 1060
If you're gonna do 3 GB, you might as well just buy a 1050Ti and save the money
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What motherboard to get for a Ryzen 5 gaymen build?

Also what is the difference between 1600 and 1600X? I don't get it
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how reasonable/retarded is this line of thought:
>buy 1300x and 1050ti
>in 3-5 years, OC 1300x and replace gpu with whatever will be mid-tier in 3-5 years
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>>61747437
What do you currently have?
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>>61747410
1600X has higher stock speeds, and PROBABLY (Silicon Lottery is a cruel mistress) can overclock just a little bit higher, or to similar speeds at a slightly lower voltage

1600 comes with a stock cooler though (Wraith Spire)
1600X you'll have to provide your own cooler
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>>61747456
a T420 I got when I went to uni
i5 2450m, nvs 4200 1gb

I'm looking to catch up on ~5 years of games and emulate a lot of PS2 and Gamecube/Wii
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>>61747437
Not too shabby
Maybe even make a full jump in 3-4 years when Zen3 comes out
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>>61747480
Scrape it get a 1300x and 1050ti
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>>61745656
Noctua NH-D15 is under 100 and one of the best air coolers on the market.
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Is KikeRipper going to be any good at gaming?

The cores it uses are identical to Ryzen 3, 5 and 7 cores, right? 1900X has a higher boost clock than any of the other Ryzen CPUs, and people are speculating they'll overclock higher due to better binning. Obviously at over twice the price, for strictly gaming it's a retarded buy from a price to performance ratio, but since it in theory will clock higher than 1800X, might it make sense if you had money to throw down the drain and want a CPU that'll last?
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>>61747614
I meant 1950X***, obviously the 1900X is just Ryzen 7 with X399 feature set support.
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>>61747614
I can't imagine it would be that much better than a Ryzen 7 at strictly gaming, but that's not what it's for
It's for playing a game AND streaming it AND watching HD video AND encoding HD video all at the same time
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>>61747134
hooooooly shit, that thing is massive
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I want to build a desktop that utilizes an ARM 32 processor, for testing super low level mobile phone development without having to dick around in a phone itself for anything not dealing with the touchscreen. How the fuck do I even start planning one out though?
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>>61747731
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I bought an i3 7350k, oc @ 4.9 GHz, and I love it. Am I shit tier Intel cuck?
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>>61747674
It could be amazing for streamers because they can get rid off the hassle of dedicated streaming PC a lot of them have.
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>>61747768
>2017
>Dual-core processors
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>>61747768
intel corelets lack processing power in their minds too it seems
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>>61747768
>two cores
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>>61747768
Good buy mate, you'll destroy Ryzen in single threaded performance and that's all that matters.

:^)
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>>61747768

yes
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Bought a Assrock b350 mobo and it came with a stock bios that had no updates, meaning it would only boot with Ryzen 7 cpus not Ryzen 5.

Called assrock and they said i would have to return it or flash the bios with a ryzen 7


I have a ryzen 5 so i had to return the mobo.

What b350 motherboards are guaranteed to work out of the box with ryzen without requiring bios updates?
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>>61747768
>he bought a z270 board for a $180 dualcore
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>>61747903
>$120 dualcore

Move into the first world paco
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R8 pls

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3MQNbj

I know I have a R5 and a 1050ti, I just need a good CPU for some audio engineering/producing with a lot of plugins. Plan to upgrade the card when the next revision comes out, fuck miners etc.
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>>61747878
>ASRock
You should have known better
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Budget: 2000e, buying from memefactory
M.Eng student so gaming, matlab and solidworks.
Overkill for future proofness, i think this might be a little too expensive
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>>61747912
>wow, see id isn't so bad :DDD
you say that like a dualcore is justified at anything over $50 in current year
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will 2 240mm fit into corsair air 240?
no
3 months ago i decided to write a letter to corsair, but forgot to
they really need to use the space better. with proper modification corsair air 240 v.2 will be able to fit 2x240 mm radiators, e.g.
also + 120 maybe. or even three 240mm...
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>>61747770
Maybe if you are on a budget, most streamers have enough money for a cheap dedicated streaming PC
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>>61747947
i am jelly
you are pretty rich for a stem student
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>>61747947
>Z170
What? Why? You are going to get your ass fucked now moron. Z170 needs a bios update to use Kaby lake and you can't update the bios if you can't post and you can't post with a 7700k CPU on a Z170 motherboard.

Well done. I hope you have a Skylake CPU lying around for your mobo.
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So I reapplied thermal paste to my CPU just now and put the heatsink on, booted it outside of the case to see if it's working, but according to BIOS it's running at 40-47 C. That seems a little too hot right?
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>>61747996
Stupid goy. You have to buy the Obsidian series of you want good watercooling support
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>>61748093
pour water on it to cool it down
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>>61748093
Are you overclocking?
Really temps don't matter unless you are overclocking. If it is below Tj max, it will be fine.
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>>61748149
No, but i could've sworn it was in the high 20s after tge first time I did it a few years ago (but I used a spudger to spread it over, this time I just used a pea sized dot and pushed down on the heatsink)

The reason I reapplied the paste in the first place was because my cpu was getting too hot
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>>61747990
>Overshoots value of chip by $60
>Most recommended dualcore is $70, yet claims nothing over $50 worth it

Yeah, apparently the value of things is lost on edgelords with mommy's money
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>>61748203
>No
Then it doesn't matter as long as you don't hit Tj max. But if you are worried you can reapply it or clean the fans.
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>>61748093
What's the temperature in your room?
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>>61742511
whats /g/'s go to psu brand? looking at picking up a 1kw+ for the tr build. the corsair rm, evga g3, and seasonic prime are my top choices at this point.
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I came to you guys a month ago to refine my build because this would be my goal for the next few weeks.

I come at you guys again for one last time to do any sort of refinement I may need for this build before I buy it.

I guess I should also add that my next goal will be getting this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYY40Q6/ref=twister_B01N5DR9U9?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 fancy dual monitor setup.

It's going to mostly be a gaming computer but I want to not have to worry about overheating or slogging fps when I max out the graphics.
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>>61748326
http://www.jonnyguru.com/
I would consult this website, when going for such a high end build.
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>>61748326
Seasonic
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>>61748361
Why that motherboard and not a B350?
If you want to spend money sure go ahead.

Make sure your RAM is on the QVL
If you want to spend money might as well get the 960.

Why a full tower?
Why 850w?
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>>61748326
EVGA, closely followed by SeaSonic
And whatever you get, make sure it's at least 80+ GOLD....if you keep the PSU long enough, the added cost should be made up for in efficiency
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>>61748404
>Why that motherboard and not a B350?
From what I've read the motherboard works really well with the processor and is great at OCing.

>If you want to spend money might as well get the 960.
What?

I'm buying a full tower because Idk if the processor cooler will fit in a half/med tower.

I'm buying a 850 so that I don't have to buy a new powersupply if I want to add another graphics card or upgrade for whatever reason also power supplies run more smoothly at around 50% usage and under from what I've heard.
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>>61748459
Samsung 960 over the 850
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>>61748386
>>61748430
thanks. currently have a seasonic g gold in my main, and corsair bronze in my media center. both work well, but leaning towards seasonic because [spoiler]i really dont want to remove the seasonic sticker on my case[/spoiler]

>>61748382
yeah, JG is a great resource. just wondering which brands to narrow in on.
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>>61748326
EVGA G3 1000W, definitely
I have a G3 750W, and it runs flawlessly
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>>61748471
What's the biggest difference?
From what I've seen it just has slightly faster boot times.
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>>61748514
Faster read write.
You are already spending so much money getting top of the line motherboard with features you don't need, full tower, water cooling etc etc. Might as well get something better than the minimum SSD recommended here.
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>>61748014
I work as an cnc lathe operator on the side and it pays pretty good

>>61748050
I didn't buy it yet, this is the reason I posted. I am really not up-to-date on mobos, what you suggest? I would maybe want to add an M.2 ssd in the future.

Also I think about replacing the 1080ti with 1070 and upgrading it in the future.
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>>61747832
>>61747805
Two cores that are faster than an AMD quad core.
Stay butthurt poorfags.
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>>61748565
>what you suggest?
The same motherboard but the Z270 variant
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>>61748549
Well it is only 20 bucks more than the 850 so I guess you got a point.

Anything else you recommend?
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>>61748618
Make sure your RAM is on the QVL. Aside from that it should be fine.
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>>61748585
How about this:
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/MSI-Z270-Gaming-Pro-Carbon-Intel-Z270-So-1151-Dual-Channel-DDR-ATX-Reta_1136431.html
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Anything in this list I should swap out or change?

I'll be buying Vega 64 for the GPU, not too keen on a reference version of the card though.
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>>61748693
Any motherboard with a Z270 chipset will be fine. Do your own research, i don't know Z270 mobos cause I won't recommend people get kaby lake.

>>61748730
Looks fine.
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>>61742511
what are some good nvme drives? looking at replacing my old intel 520 240gb with one of similar size.
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>>61748228
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117772&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Processors+-+Desktops-_-N82E16819117772&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjIPKiN3A1QIVWgUqCh0V6ASDEAkYASABEgICifD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

>implying perfect price for g4560 wasn't $50
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>>61748820
NVMEs are a meme and you're better off with a normal SSD. They're like AIOs in a way that the only reason to get them is looks.
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>>61748804
So I assume that you are these Ryzen guys? I personally have bad experience with amd since I have phenom x6 in my current setup. How you think ryzen would perform in solidworks compared to kaby lake.
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>>61748730
>1600x
>not 1600
?
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>>61748842
so my old ass intel 520 is still good? was mainly getting a new boot drive because upgrading to tr.

is m.2/msata a meme as well?
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>>61748861
You can google the benchmarks
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>>61748651
Just checked the QVL and unfortunately the RAM is not on there. Even more unfortunate, there is no 16x2 versions of RAM found on the motherboard's QVL.

Is the QVL really THAT important to pay attention to. The closest I can get to the models that are on the QVL is the Corsair Dominator Platinum 16x2 version but even still that model specifically has not been tested.
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>>61742695
Yeah, they've got all these boards that have video output, but no APUs to put in them yet.
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>>61748894
So according to google 7700k is almost 40 percent units better in solidworks 2017 compared to the 1800x. Mayby the kaby lake is for me then.
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>>61748962
>Is the QVL really THAT important to pay attention to
For intel? No.
For Ryzen? Absolutely if you want your shit to POST 100%. Otherwise it is luck.

You can buy 2 1x8 GB RAM on the QVL.
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>>61742754
Gotta love non-portable Winblows. If they made that easy, people would just pirate it as much as they already do. (most of the time)
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>>61748989
There is no 1x8 GB on the QVL for the 3200 category. Looks like I'm stuck with buying 2 8x2 RAM sticks unless there's another solution.
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>>61742950
Those Pentiums are actually fairly capable. I'm running a budget server on a G3258. Overclocked it from 3.2GHz to 4GHz. Easily hosts several things at once (Apache, Mumble, ARK, Terraria, 7D2D, whatever else somebody requests) and the only thing keeping me from pushing it more is the cheap power delivery.

It doesn't take a quad core to do freakin office work.
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>>61749076
Or look for another motherboard with the RAM you want. That is the only issue with Ryzen at the moment. It is a new platform so it is very picky about RAM.
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>>61743749
You missed the point entirely. Building your own means you can choose quality parts, don't get jewed on prices, and you get to decide where your budget goes. I've managed to make a system for $115 less than the crap Lenovo workstation I was shown at Best Buy, plus it ran about 15% faster.

As for laptops, who gets the expensive ones? They usually don't last long enough for that and you can't upgrade/repair them.
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>>61744057
It's not all about the perf. It's about saving a few hundred bucks and not getting cheapo parts made by some cheap Chinese alley fab.
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When is coffee lake coming out?
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>>61744133
RX 560 is just an RX 460 with pumped up stats. You could probably push your 480 to 580 levels without much issue. They're the same thing with slight tweaks for minor boosts.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/theTwiz/saved/tLwMpg

Feedback on RAM and Mobo? Those are the only things I'm not 100% on.

My Corsair AX750 should be more than enough for this, right?

I am going to wait for Threadripper and Vega reviews to hit before I buy. Even if the reviews don't change my CPU/GPU choices, it might change their price.
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what should i even be looking for when evaluating x399 motherboards? im pretty new to the whole ULTRAPREMIUM builds space so i don't really know what are the important features and what's fluff.
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6850K vs Ryzen 1700

Assuming both are the same or nearly the same price for everything needed.
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>>61744311
The only reason you're here is to sling insults. What a boon to society you are. Can't even give non-judgmental advice.
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>>61749311
You are good, the only thing I would consider is the Noctua is a fucking $90 AIR cooler. For the same price you can grab one of these which comes with enough fans for push-pull and a monstrously think rad.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013WAY9UQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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>>61744987
Just put some rubber down there and you'll be fine. As for air flow, don't overthink it. Just try to make it even on both ends so it's half in, half out.
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>>61746354
Just strap on some inline resistors. You'll slow your fan speeds down so it won't be so damn loud.
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>>61747759
Hammer is my weapon of choice to delid. It is truly the tool of gods.
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>>61748093
What CPU you cooling?
>>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cdbdhq
I am going to buy this today, and suggestions before I do? It's mostly for gaming.
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>>61748459
Don't the provide the dimensions of your case and cooler?
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>>61749586
Looks solid so long as you don't mind delidding the CPU, the Asus Strix is probably the best of the bunch. If you care about longevity and don't have the money to throw away on a new CPU even 12 months consider the 1800X instead.

The case isn't what I'd personally opt for but its your choice. The mouse and keyboard are kill yourself tier.
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Is MiniITX even worth going for? I'm just a trucker fag who wants to play games like Rust at a reasonable frame rate.
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>>61749586
Can afford a better case.
As well as better keyboard and mouse.
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>>61748572
>intlel shills
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>>61749621
>>61749679
Ok I like the case but what mouse and keyboard should I get instead?
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>>61742511
Can somebody please help me?
I built a new PC and the graphics card gives no output after some random timespan. This only happens in Windows, not in UEFI.
Tried reinstalling drivers.
System:
Ryzen 5 1400
GTX 1050ti
B350 Prime
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>>61749729
Logitech pro or G403
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>>61749760
Faulty GPU. RMA.
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>>61749663
Yes most gaming rigs don't use more that 2 ram slots and 1 pcie slot.
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>>61749768
What keyboard should I get?
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>>61749816
Can you afford a mechanical keyboard?
I have a Filco and they are built like a tank. Otherwise head to /mkg/ and ask them for help.
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>>61749313
Same question as this anon. So far all I got was Gigabyte = bad
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>>61749361
D15 annihilates that aio cooler
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Hey /pcbg/ I've decided to build a new pc now that my old one won't even get as far as BOOT anymore and it also corrupted my drive.
I already have
>GPU: Radeon HD 6850
>HDD: 1TB
>PSU: Coolermaster Silentpro 700W 80 plus, 6-7 years old

What I need
>CPU: something like the r5 1600 seems nice
>Motherboard: preferrably one with overclocking room
>RAM
>Good, cheap case.
This is what I made up so far:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pZwWTH
Budget €400 but willing to go €500 if it's worth it for me.
Want it to play games with friends and some med to high end games (GTA, Overwatch, maybe the Witcher 3).

Also, what is the best place to buy from in Europe, The Netherlands?
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coworker doesn't own a computer and came to me asking how difficult building one is. I told him it's not hard and quite satisying. He said ~500 would be a prefered budget.

What yall think of this as a budget build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c8JHm8
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Is there any CPU that makes Civ 6 run at 60 FPS on a late-game large map?
Don't care about graphics details, ultra-low is OK
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>>61750154
Get a pair of 4GB sticks at lower bandwidth. DDR memory benefits from having multiple channels, so by having one, you're cutting memory perf in half.
>>
I'm going to get this computer https://www.ebay.com/p/Dell-Optiplex-3040-Small-Form-Factor-Desktop-I3-6100-4gb-RAM-500gb-HDD-W7p/1653519824 For about 300 bucks. Should i go for it or can i find better if i keep searching?
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>>61750137
>Radeon HD 6850
>gta witcher3
You need new gpu you know that?
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>>61750154
Huh. That PSU doesn't show up in PC Part Picker for me. I wonder why.
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>>61750232
Would be better to just built it. Only 4GB of RAM will cripple it. Had a customer ask why their computer was so slow, and freakin Winblows update was relying on virtual memory because it somehow used over 2.5GB. Everything was fixed when I replaced it with 8GB.
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>>61750191
my thought is this gives him a chance to expand later, being that the mobo only has 2 ram slots.
>>61750297
i found a link to it on toms hardware forum.
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>>61750297
>>61750454
Oh. I figured it out.

It's a PSU from 2011.
>>
Any recommendations for an AM4 ATX mobo under $100?
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>>61750454
I would recommend against that. Some RAM kits don't work well together. Best to do it right while hardware is available. He may not be able to get that same kit later and mixing is a gamble like I said.
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>>61750539
Gigabyte GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI
ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac

Those are all mini-ITX.
I don't want mini-ITX.
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>>61749973
DH15 beats 30mm rad AIOs. It doesn't beat 40mm rad AIOs.
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>>61750395
So the only problem is the ram? And is that cpu the best i can get with a budget of 300$?
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>>61750154
See if you can get him to up his budget a bit
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Why are BreadDipper motherboards so expensive?

REEEEEEEEE
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>>61750647
You could probably do better if you built it. I managed to beat that build on $275 before, and that was two years ago.
>>
Doing my first build, will an R5 1600 paired with a 1050ti get decent performace (~60 fps @ 1080P) at med to high settings in AAAs?
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Attempt 2 at getting feedback on cannibalizing/upgrading/reboxing an Alienware X51 R2 I received as a free gift.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xs8w4C
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>>61750740
Well do you have any recommendations?
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>>61742961
segmentation fault
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>>61750664
Or with 2x4GB of RAM, if that's too expensive
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>>61750794
Mushkin RAM is shit.

Also I'm not sure if it applies to their Alienware line, but a lot of Dell prebuilts have motherboards that only accept their proprietary PSU fittings. Might want to check if the X51 R2 falls into that category before you buy anything.
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>>61750804
Haven't got time for that today. I'm sure you can get plenty of help here though. You're in the right place as long as you don't say anything dumb and claim to know what you're talking about in the same post.
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>>61750733
A) It's brand new
B) The socket is the size of my apartment
C) The chipset comes with literally ALL of the bells and whistles
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>>61750832
This has a weird setup. It doesn't actually have a PSU. It uses an external power brick. The power brick feeds into a secondary board in the case which then routes back to the motherboard, which IIRC is generic.
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>>61750902
>>61750832
As for RAM, what would you recommend? I was looking to cheaply replace 8GBs of DDR3 1600mhz because 1 stick of mine started BSoDing me.
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>>61750902
fucking proprietary bullshit it is then
just scrap it and start over
>>
I was essentially a joke in the last thread
>"animation"

I still have no idea what I'm doing, but I think my list makes more sense. My only issue is it's at ~1600, where should I sacrifice to get it down to ~1200? Need cpu to navigate scenes, but need gpu for rendering times.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/timf135/saved/W6NJxr
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>>61750925
If it has the shitty i3-4150 in it like I think it does, there is no salvaging that time for a new build. Even worse since if you keep that motherboard you are locked into the shitty stock 180w PSU
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>>61750733
You could go with X299 for the same price and have half the features locked :^)
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>>61750847
But I'm poor and just want the 1950X so I can brag online, I can't afford to pay 3x what a normal good motherboard costs :'(
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>>61750969
Any reason why you're going with that monitor?
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>>61750933
This is the motherboard. Not sure if anything looks fucky.

>>61751002
i5-4460
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>>61751059
>cheap
>consistent reviews
>don't need anything special
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>>61751027
ffs, just buy a regular Ryzen
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>>61751091
Why? Even a 1800X is no big deal, I need the full fat 16 core Ryzen to feel better than people.
>>
need a 4-pin 120mm fan suitable for replacing the one that came on my CM heat sink, it's starting to make weird noises
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>>61751063
Like, I know Dell has been guilty of proprietary unfun bullshit, but this Alienware box looks like it's just an ITX board with extra shit rigged to it. It seems fully recyclable. And I'd like to get it into an actual rig.

So I was figuring toss it in a 200R when one goes on sale. Replace the power brick with an actual PSU. Eventually replace the GTX 745 with something with some actual bite whenever I can get something for a non-retarded price.

I don't see anything standing in my way save for my lack of funds.
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>>61751122
Nice blog.
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>>61751063
*barfs*
>>61751120
pic related
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>>61751149
>*barfs*
Yes. It's a stock ITX board. Very helpful feedback.
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>>61750969
Go from 1700X to non-X version as they're essentially the same. Pirate Windows.
>>
>>61748572
>poorfags
DUAL CORE
>>
Ryzen Pro when?
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>>61751149
>t. corelet
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>>61750804
Bump
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>>61750635
Rad thickness matters very little compared to area, and the D15 beats some 3x120mm aios
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>>61750783
Yes
>>
>VENGEANCE
>RIPJAWS
>DOMINATOR
>xXx420xXxURMOM
>PRO GAMING xD
I want to kill everyone
>>
>>61743127
Could try at a library or business. Also try posting an ad on craigslist looking for help, you might get lucky.

>>61743441
I think his problem at this point is that he has no spare computer or boot device to actually be able to get into an OS and make the Windows Media Creation Tool.
>>
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>>61752059
>TFW your purchase options for RAM sound like Killer Instinct characters
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>>61742511
need help

Currently Building Gaming PC

Have Nvidia GTX1060 6GB
12g ram

Need to upgrade my motherboard and processor

Currently looking for an Asus am3+ motherboard since i'm thinking of buying the
>AMD Octa-core FX-9590 4.7GHz Desktop Black Edition 8 Socket AM3+ FD9590FHHKBOF
is Asus Sabertooth AMD 990FX R3 any good?
(pic related)

Suggestions welcomed
>>
>>61752095
I'm considering paying the premium for Ryzen Pro just so I don't have to support RAM marketing for 12-year olds.
>>
My friend wants a gaming pc and he has a $1000 budget. He already has a monitor etc, just needs the pc itself. What is the best he can get?
>>
>>61752246
resolution and refresh rate of monitor?
>>
>>61752143
Don't touch the FX chips. No one uses them anymore. Use an AMD Ryzen chip. Same company, MUCH better architecture, MUCH better chip. I'd look at the 6 core, 12 thread Ryzen 5 1600 with a B350 motherboard (my personal favorite is the MSI B350 Tomahawk and its Arctic variant)
>>
>>61752143
do not waste your money on AM3+
>>
>>61751335
You realize thickness adds surface area for the fin stack right?
>>
>>61752406
I dont know, but he wants a 1070 graphics card
>>
What are some good full tower cases?
>>
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=35-608-052
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=35-608-051

How overkill would it be to attach one of these to my CPU heat sink in place of the stock fan?
>>
>>61752615
Maybe a little lower temps at full speed and lower rpms to keep a stable temp.

Not really overkill.
>>
So what's a good company to buy DDR3 RAM from?
>>
>>61752902
G.Skill
Corsair
Kingston

But why are you doing a build with DDR3? All the new stuff uses DDR4. And no, DDR4 is not backwards compatible.
>>
>>61752902
Mushkin
>>
>>61752563
if it's 1920x1080 60hz that card is slightly overkill but it should be good for the future
just make sure the cpu doesnt bottleneck it
when you pick out a motherboard make sure the ram you get is on its qvl
>>
>>61752941
I'm upgrading an Alienware X51 R2 since it still works and I don't have the cash on hand to build from scratch. And the SKhynix|CHINA RAM in it just died, so I'm limping on the remaining 4GB stick.

The plan is to take out the ITX board in it and transfer it to a new case along with the GTX 745 and any other relevant bits. And then to roll in upgrades or replacement parts as needed.

Really, I want an excuse to get a case so I have options and better ventilation.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VBCVvV
>>
>>61753021
You may have problems with non-standard front i/o connectors
>>
>>61753193
Yes, yes. Everything will be incompatible. Can't really do shit about that, though.
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>>61752413
>>61752426


Noted

Forgot to mentioned that my current build has an Asus M5A78L-M/USB3
along with an AMD FX 8320 eight core

Thanks for the suggestions
Time for an upgrade
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>>61742730
>Gamers Nexus
>Valuable source of information
>>
>>61749663
Yes

There's nothing attractive about a massive RGB LED Full Size ATX tower. It just screams "17 year old virgin with Mom's credit card."
>>
Why would you build a NAS if your desktop is running 24/7 anyway?
>>
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Question:

I have a Z170X gigabyte mobo and messing around I noticed the ram management part had an option called "memory enhancement settings" with the options (enhanced stability, normal, enhanced performance and relax oc).

What the fuck these they do?
The manual doesn't say anything besides (enhanced options affecting performance/stability)

it was defaulted on stability, changed it to normal and PC has been working the same so far, guess I'll run some test to see if "enhanced stability" was cucking me from some fps gains.
>>
Is it worth is to get a ~$35 dollar CPU cooler over the stock Ryzen 5 1600? If so, what would be the best cooler in that price range? Thanks in advance.
>>
>>61752143
I'm building an am3 build and I just bought that mobo, would probably be fine with a $100 mobo though - ideally just go ryzen but I want win 7 and don't want to nigger rig my OS.
>>
>>61750235
I don't really care about graphics all that much, and other than witcher3 I most likely won't be playing the other high end games without friends.
>>
>>61753659
Just stick with stock unless you plan to OC.
>>
>>61753659
Unless you're planning to push your 1600 to 4GHz (or beyond), the stock Wraith Spire should be plenty
>>
>>61752902
G skill
>>61752426
>>61752413
What if I want something (amd) better than my fx600 but too poor to afford zen, would you still say like an 8350 would be a waste?
>>
How's this?
>>
>>61753723
still a waste. You could get a Ryzen 3 1200 quad core which is cheaper than a new FX 8350 at the moment.
>>
Is it normal that i get a lot of interference with onboard sound on a brand new build? Like there's this constant crackling in the background and stuff which can only be heard when everything else is silent

Methinks i prolly shud add the realtek HD sound card back in soon
>>
>>61753967
This is why I use an audio interface, no issues whatsoever.
>>
>>61753967
No it's not. Is your PSU shit?
>>
>>61753847
Some people report issues with asrock boards so I'd check reviews on that. You're clearly going for a budget build, you can get a cheaper hdd and more storage for that price.
>>
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>>61753632
fucking respond
>>
>>61754672
It's a meme

>>61753967
no, get a sound card
>>
404 imminent
New thread:
>>61755008
>>
Ujnhhh
>>
What's the best GPU to pair with an i5 2400? Preferably one with no power pins required but if necessary I can get a new power supply.
>>
>>61742598
Here's an office pc you drongo cunt

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qHHjr7
>>
>>61756488
1050
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