/pcbg/ - PC Building General

given two or more memory kits at the same advertised frequency, latency and price, is the choice pretty much brand loyalty at this point?
i've ordered the msi x370 carbon for my build and now i'm after some memories to put in there and basically i've found these three at the same price point:
>corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16
>corsair CMK16GX4M2D3200C16
>g.skill F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
when i look up the mobo's supported memory, no kit from the ones mentioned above appears exactly on the list
for crucial, the supported ones are CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R and CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W, the only difference being the W or R at the end, while the kit i've found in a store has nothing more after the "3200C16" part. could someone explain what the last character means for crucial memory?
then there's also the D or B part after the "X4M2" part, basically on crucial's website the one with D has msrp of 1000$, while the B one is only 170$, but in the store they are actually almost the same price, so what is the difference between these two?
and about g.skill, the kit listed on msi's site is F4-3200C16D-16GVRB, so once again a single character difference, ie. GVRB on msi's site vs. GVKB in store

would you recommend getting one of these? i wonder if i'll be able to hit 3200 mhz easily with one of these because the other similarly-named kits are listed as supported at 3200 or is it a lottery because these single letters in the name actually mean major changes between kits?
t. poorfag looking to save some bucks on the memory but still get proper 3200 mhz speeds

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I got a new computer today. The computer is running but no video plays the screen says no signal and when I unplug the video cable it said "no cable connected" so it detects something at lease. Vie tried both vga and dmi both same result. The cables still work because they work on the old computer. And in checking in the case to see if anything is unplugged and everything is firm. What could I be missing? Is there any commonly missed plug in or commonly missed step? The manual said no assembly just plug and play.

Pic related is the inside

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>Ether is hovering around $220
WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT CRASH THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN

>>61508226
Did you connect your monitor un th Mono?
Have you tried reseating the card?

>>61508182
so idk about x4m2 part so hopefully someone can answer you. but concerning corsair the last letters for corsair memory indicate heatspreader color. so R is red. W is white. make sure when checking qvl not to enter r or w or b when utilizing control f

>>61508230
Installing Afterburner however I noticed that sometimes if I have 2 tabs of youtube videos, one runs fine with no problems and one stutters hard or even has the loading thing once I press play again, I am using 1080p

>>61508279
thank you
so it is solely the color and the internals are all the same, or could there be cross-color differences?

>>61508307
concerning corsair yes. its just color. i paid $10 extra i think on red heat spreaders and could have saved $10 if i had just gotten the regular black ones.

anyone know how or where i can get a 1050 for less than $100?

>>61508182
>g.skill F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
so i just looked up g.skill also gvkb also indicates heat spreader color.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820231941

so here is that model of ram. as you click through the colors gv changes on every color.

if a board's qvl lists some ryzen cpu as supported with some bios version and above, does that mean that if the board ships to me with a lower bios version i won't be able to do anything about that without a supported cpu at hand?
or it could still boot to the bios at least so i can update it from using some usb stick?

>>61508398
oh well
i guess my google skills suck
anyways i think i'll go with the CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 because the gskill ones are much taller and i'd be worried if the stock wraith cooler plays nice with these
so always better to get the shorter memories i guess

>no i5s unless discounted
>7700k - Only for 144hz
Hmmm, I wonder who wrote this...

>>61508512
Someone who ISN'T shilling for intel unlike yourself.

>>61508539
>new builder comes along
>"Gee Intel is garbage, AMD FTW!"
>literally paying for Sandy Bridge: Moar Cores Edition
4 cores is all need for gayming. The 7600k isn't going to be obsolete for a long time.

Can I use 2 x 4 GB 1333 MHz and 2 x 8 GB 1600 MHz sticks on a 1600 MHz DDR3 supporting mobo?
Will it work? Will the 1600 be downclocked to 1333 as well?

>>61508575
It's not obsolete, just bad value for money since R5s came out.

>>61508575
>everyone is playing shitty mobas or unoptimized crap

>>61508233
Etherium is a joke.

Smart contracts is an even bigger joke. It will never EVER take off. Only dumb kikes trying to sell you a new currency schema are interested in pushing this smart contracts nonsense.

>>61508602
of course it will work. Both will run at 1333MHz. Un less you OC the 1333MHz DIMMs manually, which might be possible without completly horrible timings/through the roof voltage if you're not completly unlucky

>>61508603
>bad value
>Sandy Bridge IPC is acceptable in current year because MOAR COREZ
>>61508616
Name one AAA game that can't run fine on an i5.

>>61508616
I do

>>61508646
>>Sandy Bridge IPC is acceptable in current year because MOAR COREZ
Good thing Zen offers Skylake IPC instead, shill.

>>61508646
>moving the goalpost
no one stated that it can't run gayme X. Just that it provides worse value. Buyers remorse kicking in or shilling?

Rate my mini-ITX Ryzen Linux workstation:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wX3Nhq

>>61508699
novideoout/10

>>61508646
But are you willing to pay $350+ for an i5 for a computer you'll be using for 3+ years when you can buy a $130 cheaper R5 1600 which will be more future proof, as even the new i5 8400 will be 8 threads and all game devs will be optimizing for moar coarz.

>be me
>be april 2017
>start wanting to build pc
>its my first build
>1070 was just right
>3 months later its still $500
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
what do lads i have an all new r7 build with a 9800 gt from 2008

>>61508725
most game devs are already optimizing for moar coarz because the consoles are basically desktop PCs with 8 really shitty, slow cores. And since they make more dough on consoles than on PC they have every reason to develope cross platform titles

>>61508733
Kill a miner today.

>>61508733
tfw have everything new except GPU which is a radeon 6450 from my old pc

>>61508733
wait for the mining boom do die down. Optionally for voltaire/vega/navi, i hate upgrading in the middle of a generation, makes me feel like i get less for my money

>>61508699
Biostar isn't known for holding together. Unless you're going ultra cheap with them, get someone else. Also yeah, I hope you know how to run that thing blind.

>>61508699
What's you GPU?

>>61508753
That's exactly my point. Cheaper and more future proof. Why'd you want an i5 now?
If you bought it before Ryzen I'll forgive you. If you plan buying it now, shame on you.

>>61508796
>Linux work station
>GPU

>>61508813
i was trying to reinforce your point

>>61508817
Well he should at least occasionally see what he's doing on his Linux workstation, no?

>>61508817
>no integrated GPU
>PC for blind people

>>61508841
voice control has come a long way. Don't buy into the screen jew, it just distracts

>>61508838
Thanks, value-for-the-money brother. Not all of us shits money.

>>61508845
>>61508841
lol just download the intel integrated graphics card dumbasses

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>>61508674
Keep telling yourself that.

>>61508863
Oh, so you're just pretending to be retarded. Good job?

>>61508871
>literally 2 fps difference
>graph is a .5 measurements to make it look as if it is a big difference
Nice try

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>>61508871

>>61508871
The trolls are thick in this thread.

>>61508891
I haven't heard of 142hz monitors senpai

>>61508915
>falling for the 144hz meme
xD

>>61508871
Stop false flagging you dumb amdshill

>>61508871
>2 entire frps

Best ATX case with a handle? I'm currently considering a Corsair Vengeance C70 but i'd like something smaller.

>>61508929
>Being so bad at gaming you can't tell the differences

>>61508871
BTFO

https://youtu.be/nsDjx-tW_WQ
When you remove the GPU bottleneck, you begin to see just how terrible the core performance of Ryzen really is. 130fps less in Snipe Elite, for example. Zen is Bulldozer 2.0 even to the point where AMD fanboys will ignore tests that remove the bottleneck until suddenly they realize their brand new CPU can't keep up a year later, just like what happened with Bulldozer.

>>61509041
>muh gayming
fuck off retard

>>61508720
>>61508790
>>61508796
No GPU. What's the cheapest GPU possible?
I will only use text mode and then after installing Debian, use it by SSHing into it.

>>61508140
Halp. I want to build a computer out of old server parts because I'm cheap. Are 6 core opterons any good? I'm planning on paring 2 six core AMD opterons with this: http://www.tyan.com/manuals/S3992-E_UG_v1.0.pdf as well as 32 GB of DDR2 ECC memory and some kind of nvidia graphics card (probally 950 ti). Would this be a good setup or a bottleneck?

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>>61509057
i7 literally stuttering in the first game

>>61509083
>I will only use text mode and then after installing Debian, use it by SSHing into it.
Just make an installation script with Puppet?

>>61509099
old 10$ AMD radeon.

tfw r5 1600 and satisfied with my purchase

>>61509107
why are intelfags such cucks?

>>61508455
The Wraith wont be anywhere near your ram.

>>61509107
GTA 5 actually is bugged up and starts stuttering if you have higher than 165 fps, google it

>>61509107
wewladicus

>>61509121
should I go with Intel instead?
I don't want to buy a graphic card if I'm never going to use it, sounds retarded
headless installation sounds too complicated for my stupid head

>>61509342
>should I go with Intel instead?
do you stream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LMGOq_PbVQ

>>61508419
anyone?

>>61509395
he's building a workstation he'll be using via remote access, what the heck do you think, retard?

How good is the msi geforce gtx 1080 gaming x? It's cheaper than most 1080s in my country (589,95€).

>>61509083
>No GPU. What's the cheapest GPU possible?
You can get something like an 8800GT for basically nothing nowadays

>>61509342
>headless installation sounds too complicated for my stupid head
It's not all THAT complicated and you can find fairly good tutorials.

Also, having a spare GPU around for troubleshooting probably isn't a bad idea.

>>61509467
This would be my solution. Just come up with a cheap ass card that can give you a display for like $10.

>>61509395
Do you read the beginning of conversation?

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House computer for my parents, Video and movie watching, browsing, no real productivity or gaming.

i3-7100 -vp9, HEVC, 20 english dollars more than g4560, better iGPU and decent clocks.
ASUS ROG Strix B250I - wifi, nice sound chip, displayport from the board
HyperX FURY 8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz - dual channel is probably better for the iGPU
Corsair CX450M - Wendell said they aren't shit anymore
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB - not ponying up for an M.2

Case will be whatever mITX they like

Thinking of 27" 1440p60 IPS for the screen.

Anyone have advice, especially about the monitor or motherboard?

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building this nigger pc to burn my house down :')

Anyone know cheap desktop microphone I could get for playing games instead of having to buy a headset?

I don't want to have to do modmic.

>>61509943
>AGP X8
My nigger

>>61510005
I like to use Logitech webcams for that. Like $30-40 and the sound quality is fantastic. Better than most other mics, plus you get a decent cam.

Any pricing for the rx vegas yet?

Mays no show and jackshit being showed off in a censored state is making me nervous.

>>61508871
>that filename

>>61510050
the card in there is a 7600gs
the only reason im "building" this is that i need those ide slots for few things very soon and none of my machines have IDE, and other mobos I got lying around are DDR2 and I don't have any spare DDR2 sticks for now, so this mobo with Pentium 4 and DDR memory will do for the job. Can't recall what model it was and what frequency, hope it still works, will post more pics soon when it's done. Won't be permanent, and I don't have suitable PSUs with all the connections I need except one in another machine but I am too lazy to pull all the cables out and the PSU out

>>61510075
No, you have to wait tm for siggraph or whatever

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its done, time to burn the house down with a pentium4

>>61510189
record it!

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it booted up

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>>61510328
and it runs hot

>>61510354
I mean its 47C, not that high.

>>61510373
well usually i work with core 2 hardware its kinda hot compared to them but its not bad, its a stock cooler after all and a pentium 4

I accidentaly broke one blade of a case fan should I just let it run with one missing blade? It isn't making any strange noises.

>>61510429
how do you accidentally do that

>>61510500
I took of the front panel while the pc was turned on and a part of the front panel that was sticking out hit one fan which in turn broke immediately.

>>61508140
motherboard question.
i need a z97 chipset mobo that can hold a gtx1060 and also has a m.2 slot in it.
perferably either just black or black and white... i dont want flashy shite inside the thing...

>>61510688
After checking newegg, this wouldd be your best bet at this point.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157501&cm_re=Z97-_-13-157-501-_-Product

>>61510786
thanks for the recomendation shame its red... is there no white and black ines you would recomend ? or just black ones... whats up with all this gaymer shite all over the place...

>>61510815
You have an older CPU so motherboards for it are no longer produced, that was the cheapest non-refurbished one I saw.

There's also this refurbished MSI black/white board:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABVR5VM5561

Here's the page to look yourself:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=Z97&N=-1&isNodeId=1

anyone here got the x370 carbon from msi? i've ordered one to pair it with the ryzen 5 1600 but now i've started worrying whether it ships with recent enough bios to be able to boot with the cpu
if it doesn't then i'm fucked as i don't have any other am4 cpu nor the funds to buy the r7 1700 cpu
first time building a pc and fucking up this bad, i'm gonna kys myself

>>61510843
well im building it now so im getting an intel 17 4790
goddamn im gonna have to update my list then...

>>61510868
Are you using pcpartpicker? Post the link and your budget.

>>61510868
>well im building it now so im getting an intel 17 4790
What for? Are you getting one used or otherwise especially cheap?

>>61510879
hahah i have removed the parts i have bought so its basically empty now appart from the i7 the mobo and the ram.
>>61510887
meh its gonna be cheapish for what im looking at.
basically im looking for a good cpu for heavy use and a motherboard that can take it aswell whilst preferably being either black or black and white...
i can change the parts slightly but i want an i7.
suggestions welcome.

>>61510908
>meh its gonna be cheapish for what im looking at.
Intel doesn't drop the prices on previous gen CPUs, so you would almost certainly be better served getting either a Skylake/Kaby lake i7 or a Ryzen. Especially since, as you can see, the selection for z97 boards is getting pretty thin.

>>61510960
yup... been a while waiting for the money to put this together... im gonna need to make it from scratch probably...
soooooooo
im sorry to be so thick but for a comparable cpu and mother board what would you suggest ?
im looking into it im just having to learn what has changed...

>>61510960
isnt a 4770 worse than a 4790 though purely based off of benchmarks ?
and what chipset boards would you say i am needing now then...

>>61510989
We can help you out with part suggestions or an entire list, we just need your budget dude.
How much are you going to be spending...?

>>61511023
the problem lies in that i have most of the parts...
everything but the cpu and the mobo (and ram but thats on its way)
for the mobo and the cpu probably around £500 to £650 ish

>>61508226

>That gpu sag

Looks like you got ripped off.

>>61511023
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YPtLRG
this is what i have so far (missing the 4 other drives from my old pc that i am tearing up and the cpu cooler)

>>61511016
Like I said, you should probably get either Skylake/Kabylake i7 with Z170/Z270 chipset, or a ryzen CPU with B350 or X370 chipset.

>>61511124
cool thanks for the tips im gonna have to look into it...

>>61511110
Ya, I figured it'd be DDR3 ram.
Alright, you -can- get a current gen i7 and a board that has DDR3 compatibility, but it's going to be the Z170 chipset, not Z270. You'll need to update the BIOS when you get it. Hopefully it boots with the CPU, as well... If not, I'm fairly certain newer ASUS boards will update the BIOS from a flashdrive as long as the BIOS is the only thing on it.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/9QjRPs

>>61511182
fuck it i can get rid of the ram... its not that much anyhow... so with a i7 4770k and a z270 board i would need ddr4 right ?

So im building muh first pc, have a ryzen 5 1600 and a gtx 1050ti. Any advice on what a decent monitor should I pick? What features to look for? Using it for gaymen and browsing, not any editing or rendering

>>61511256
The 4770k isn't compatible with Z270, you'll need to get 6700k or 7700k.

>>61511319
derp sorry typing quickly whilst thinking leads to dumb errors...
here is the current list.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2mfxJV

>>61511256
Z270 boards support LGA1151, not LGA1150 which would be for the i7-4770k.

Here's a modified list:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qNLdVY

Hey, I'm getting a replacement Harddrive as my current HDD has crapped out on me and won't boot up. (the error being it asking for a boot device). My plan is to upgrade at the same time, and the plan is to go from a 2TB to a 3TB HDD and 120gb~ SSD combo. I'll be ordering from newegg and was wondering about recommendations. my current budget is 125-160.

Also, what experience have you had with their refurbished parts? are the good to use?

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>>61510122
this is nice, keep me updated yeah

>>61511362
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/admiralbumfluff/saved/7jVzK8
hows that ?

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Kinda wish I waited for Ryzen 3 to hit before building this FreeNAS box but AM4 mobos are kinda shit right now, esp for mATX. You gotta jump up to gamer grade shit to get 6 sata 3 ports. Seems like none of them come with Intel NICs which I guess is understandable but for FreeNAS intel NICs are the only way to go. Would be better if they do 1 16x slot and 1 4x slot which would really open up your NIC options but they seem to be all 16x and 1x.

Really wish this Asrock supported Xeon chips but according to Asrock it doesn't. Got the mobo/CPU/RAM for under 100 bucks. Just gonna wait to catch a higher spec 1151 CPU (i5 or i7) on sale. Really this rig only tanks when I run a VM for torrents/downloads but it will run just can't do much else with it while it's doing it. Guess i'll keep an eye out for another cheap stick of ram for it as well.

>>61511574
>Really wish this Asrock supported Xeon chips but according to Asrock it doesn't.
It's a chipset thing. None of them consumer-grade 1151 boards support Xeons.

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>>61511436
sure
had to add a ide dvd drive, it didnt want to boot from sata drive. installing embedded 7 to it, i use debian mainly but the task i will use this for will need windows

>>61508140
Any good IPS Panel with G-Sync and is 1440p?

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>>61511574
Here is the guts + a network disk speed test. Can't complain about that considering the price I paid to get this running. The cheapest 6 bay nasbox is like 500 bucks and is super limited.

>>61511623
Don't have the time to dig for it but I could have sworn I see people running Xeons in B250 and H270 mobos over on the FreeNAS reddit. Things like ECC doesn't work but it boots and runs

Rx 580 or vega

>>61511460
Sorry for the late reply, I had to go to the store and picked up some pizza.

Ya, that's fine. The Noctua cooler is lightly better than the be-Quiet!, I chose the latter because it's quieter and fits into your desired black aesthetic. Same for why I chose the motherboard I did.

That RAM is slightly slower than the Corsair RAM, for only a few bucks saved, though it IS on that motherboard's QVL. So it's a toss-up, go for whichever. You're not likely to run into RAM compatibility issues anyway.

so apparently 8g rx 580's are in stock
>$279 for 8g
>$250 for 4g
this may be our only chance bro's
>Office Depot

>>61512335
Wait a see, nothing can be said for non FE Vega cards yet.

>>61511710
ASUS PG279Q
Acer Predator Z271 Tbmiphzx

Good luck friend.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TbCCXH

How's this for a cryptocurrency mining rig will it pay itself of?

>>61509849
Why not go for itx at this point

>>61512508
ironic shitposting is still shitposting

my 3.7ghz i7 920 is about to die. What would be a good replacement when this cpu finally bites the curb?

>>61511384
Any thoughts? I'm not sure where to start for what would be the best choice, and if worst comes to worst I'll probably just choose the cheapest at random

>>61512476
This is actually a decent deal.

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/763577/Asus-DUAL-RX580-O8G-Radeon-RX/fromLocalBrowse=false

>>61512553
i7 7700K

>>61512553
For gaming you should really look at the new Intel i9, especially if you plan demanding games.

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Help. Pc has worked fine with my monitor for over a week, and now it just says this

>>61512769
What are my odds of getting the bad chip?

>>61512553
Ignore the intel shitposters and get a Ryzen 5 or 7

>>61512908
have you tried plugging it out and plugging it back in for each side?

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>>61512894
true, an i7 just doesn't cut it anymore

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Are mini PCs (pic related) worth it , I want to upgrade from my 8 year old shitbox of a pc the vostro 200, can't watch videos without stuttering and what's even worse is no vidya at all.

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There's this one guy selling away Samsung EVO 850 2TB model for 450€ which have been in use for only few months.
Should I get it? It's still insanely high price for a storage drive but new 2TB SSD's are 680€ at that capacity.

I really just want to install Windows again after so many years and get rid of HDD's if possible but I also want 2nd monitor of same brand I currently have and that'd be 350€ and I'm quite poor so I can only afford one of these things for next 4 months.

>>61512975
very cute anime picture

>>61512964
Unless you plan on travelling alot, mini pcs arent worth it as desktop use.

>>61512964
Great for video watching, not so much for gaming. Build yourself a mITX pc, it's still small but actually versatile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQvDbXsWmGw
Just ordered all the parts for this off Amazon, I did the right thing, right?

>>61513115
NO YOU FUCKED UP.

HAHAAHAHAHA

>>61513132
How?

>>61513153
it works anon

I am just joking with you. *pats your head*

opinions on this?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813157774

>>61513115
I mean... it's a decent PC. The CPU is the biggest issue of all, though, because as Austin highlighted it'd only a dual-core. Yes, Hyperthreading, but still a dual-core. So games which require more CPU power, which is a lot of them, will be bogged down a bit. You can see GTAV for instances struggles for 60 FPS.

>>61513174
ASRock boards have been good for years now. You may not need the X370 chipset though, depending on what you're going to be doing. B350 boards are cheaper. Compare the chipset and motherboard features, should be apparent which one you'll need for your workload/usage.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XGwDgL

So I'm making a new build and I currently have a freesync monitor for that sweet 144 hz.

Finding a fucking 580 is a nightmare and super expensive right now, so do you guys think its worth it to just give up on the freesync and just get a nvidia card?

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>>61512524
I am going for itx. Can't you read?

>>61513166
>>61513216
w-wait I was just shitposting is that actually a decent build? what about this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZoWUW_2yw

>>61513279
Guess not, drop the M as nobody calls itx Mitx anymore.

>>61509849
CX series made coil whine for me wtf is Wendell on

>>61513296
for budget gaming.

which is not much

*pokes your face*

>>61513296
If you're really cheap or poor, then ya. It's even shittier than the other one though. Worse PSU and less powerful GPU.

Are you just shitposting at this point?

>>61513296
I would just get a HDD instead for more space and see if you can get better parts that are used

>>61513267
Office depot has an 8gb asus one for like 260. Best you can likely do right now.

>>61513356
I was shitposting before but not now, I've got $400 or so and need a new PC

>>61508636
>Smart contracts is an even bigger joke. It will never EVER take off.
Nigga that's what someone would have said about buttcoins in 2009. Never say never mah nigga.

>>61513416
Well it'll get like 50 FPS in games like Arma, PUBG, GTAV, etc. But it'll work, I guess. Just play on low-medium and don't run other shit while gaming.

How much of an improvement is the r7 1700 over the 8350

>>61513462
big gains my boi

>>61513462
Here's some decent performance metrics
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700-vs-AMD-FX-8350/3917vs1489

Here's a video I found with a quick google search:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKp9h3SXmgs
Note, it's the Ryzen 5 1400. So the R7 1700 will be even better.

A pretty good jump, I'd say, if you can spare the cash.

what the hell do you even use a quadro p6000 for

>>61513535
....rendering

>>61513535
movie rendering and 3d rendering
usually in mass

>>61513267
see
>>61512697

>>61513246
Nice build, pretty comfy, but why the platinum psu?

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how would you upgrade this?
I guess an HDD would make my life easier

>>61513592
despite all the shitty support i might crossfire depending on the pricing of the cheapest vega sku.

>>61513638
yeah.
get a Ultrastar 3TB, best HDD for the price

Also your system is pretty good at any standard, no need for an upgrade

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>work extra time for 4 months to buy a gaming pc
>Spend all 2000$ on the pc https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yLLpwV
( I took 36$ from my food money :( )
>Building it was fun. Connected it to a 1440 60hz monitor
>Was very excited to play battlefield 1, overwatch, GTA 5, etc
>Realize that I need money to buy games i wanted
>Tfw when i have to wait 1 month to play games i want

>>61513745
oh man, I really don't like your component choice, but oh well.

>>61513799
what don't you like about it?

Is it a good idea to cheap on a motherboard? And how mant PCI slots does person need?

>>61513410
damn. unfortunately I'm making a new build because I'm studying abroad in japan. Their shipping estimate is way too late for when im leaving.

>>61513745
Wow. You spent two thousand dollars on a computer to play games that don't require a PC that costs two thousand dollars? I honestly feel bad for your lack of intelligence.

>>61513745
There are definitely higher quality PSUs you could have chosen from... Also, why a founders edition 1080?

>>61513836
No need to be shitty, friend. It was his money to spend.

>>61513811
Not that anon but I would have gone with a EVGA G3 and not a NEX. The 1800X is overpriced if you're willing to OC a 1700/X to the same performance level. Even if you lose the lottery you'll get within spitting distance of a 1800X for $100 less.

>>61513863
I can agree with that.

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>>61512975
A-anyone?

>>61513811
this is what I would have gotten
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BZm2cc

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its only a 200 dollar ($) difference between a particular 144hz monitor and a 240hz monitor ($500)

worth?

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What should be my next upgrade?

I'm sitting on a i7-6850k i grabbed for 299, good deal? Also, does anyone have an opinion on if RAM,SSD,cpu cooler prices will go up after threadripper? Should I buy these items soon or wait a little?

>>61513915
Everything.

>>61513901
out of all motherboards why this one?

>>61513911
can your hardware drive such high frame rates?

>>61513911
you face diminishing returns after 120hz

>>61513836
>"Etc"
I didn't specify that i am playing only these games. Also as you can see i have 1440 monitor and I don't want to run games on low or upgrade anytime soon. For the CPU i need it to di a lot of cores consuming tasks like multitasking, streaming, 3d models rendering, etc
Good luck playing game @ 1080p low with your gtx 1050

>>61513901
I've asked about the Hitachi/hgst refurbs and anons usually tell me to avoid them.

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>>61513961
lul okay, now i know why i stopped coming here.

Good luck with that

>>61513955
better value. x370 is only necessary when you want to run sli/crossfire.

>>61513911
are you playing CSGO?
>yes
Is it true 240? or some interpolation bullshit or 240 Dynamic?
>No
then yes

in any other case, no.

>>61513915
if it's for gaming, your GPU. but that CPU is dated aswell, look into the R5 1600

>>61513955
my favorite oine is the AsRock Taichi for AM4, but it's pricier. and I consider it an uncessary investment (like the 960 PRO). and the Asus has very good reviews and seems solid overall. B350 does the same as X370, minus SLI

>>61513974
I've heard the opposite, plus for that priuce you can just RAID them however you want for extra protection

>>61513987
>>61514004
Thanks guys

>>61513957
ye of course, its only for csgo and such

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>>61513820
Plz respond.

Finally got my PC running, MSI Fuggahawk:DDD had an old BIOS that didn't recognize my R5 1600. This AsRock Fatal1ty B350 did it perfectly right out of the box. What are good temperatures for the 1600? I seem to idle around the low to mid 30s. I've noticed whenever I start up something from idle (I.E. open a browser/tab), I get a 10c spike that goes down rather quickly, is that shit normal? I get kinda concern seeing HWMonitor jump randomly like that, I've never experienced anything like it. I haven't ran aida64 yet but the highest I've got so far just running a few games heavily with recording programs is about low to mid 50s Celsius. I made sure to clean and reapply some thermal paste (arctic silver) since the numerous reseating attempts on the Tomahawk. Hopefully I put on enough and properly (a decent dab on the middle).

Would just like some reassurance, it's my first time building.

ALSO I've been trying to get my RAM to run the proper speeds in the BIOS but it seems to just cycle and nothing changes. Would it be wise to update the BIOS? Somewhat afraid of bricking my brand new build.

>>61513820
read the instructions.
post your build and the mobo you're looking at.
read user reviews.

>>61513216
What 4 core cpu would work well instead ? And would that require upgrading the other parts ?

>do mini-itx build
>don't buy modular psu
fuck

whats the difference in single core performance between the r5 1600 and r7 1800x?

>>61514091
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3916vs3919
Not a huge difference

>>61514091
none at the same speeds.
that's why people get the 1600 or 1700. the only difference from the higher SKUs is stock clockspeeds and core count.

>>61508140
Can I make this thing cheaper? ;_; (I don't wanna take out the Razer products, to be honest.)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Yjvyf

>>61514028
then get it, I had a taste of what 75Hz feels like, 240Hz must look and feel extremely nice

>>61514290
didn't make it cheaper but I added more razer for ya.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/88VfzM

>>61514290
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Yjvyf
dunno about peripherials, buf don't get razer plz.
you can probably find a cheaper motherboard(hoipefully) and I've seen RAm kits just like your at like $115-$120 there are cheaper SSDs out there also

.. you know that's one expensive case you're getting.

>>61514368
Now you're getting the point, anon. kek.
>>61514372
I just wanna try Razer, I already tried Corsair and Logitech and I fucking hate it.
By the way, thanks for pointing the case, I was just looking for aesthetics.
I'm going to look for a cheaper mobo, also I don't know if I'm going for Ryzer or the i7-7700K, I really want some extra bucks for gaymes, even if I lose 2 FPS, those extra bucks can be fine.
And the RAM I think is the cheapest one for 3200.

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Is this a good buy?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133662&cm_re=1060-_-14-133-662-_-Product

I'm selling my old card to a friend, and I can't seem to find any 470-580 that's decently priced.
t. amd shill

>>61514556
Thanks for the link I need more cards for my rig. I'll keep an eye out (not for you).

>>61514556
It might.

>>61513834
I guess another option is neweggs combo deals. Search for rx580 and sort by lowest. They are bundling cards at like 250+ a 30 dollar item or 250 ish + psu or ryzen. Some aren't a total ripoff.

>>61514573
I hope the bubble bursts on babys first crypto

>>61514626
You fags have been saying that for months :^)

>>61514290
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Yjvyf

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TfqNhq

1) Use parametric filters as I have used in the list.

2) If you want tempered glass RGB memes, at least get the sensibly priced case.

3) Deathadder is actually a well-tracking mouse, the Mamba is shit. (http://www.rocketjumpninja.com/top-40/)

4) I guarantee you that you aren't doing a damn thing that benefits from the $100 price jump that the 7700k goes for over the 7600k. If you're going Intel and you're just gaming, the 7600k is a much better value, especially after getting a good overclock to match or exceed the frequency that a 7700k hits.

5) The Dell S2417DG > S2716DG due to the capability of reaching 165hz. They have the same feature sets otherwise, 2560x1440, Gsync, TN, 1ms, etc.

Is it worth getting mATX over normal ATX?

>>61514597
excuse my lack of knowledge, but what's ACTUALLY the difference between all the different variations of graphics cards? Like they have the "Power Color Red Dragon" 580 8 gig, but how is it (if at all) actually different from a 580 from a more well known name?

>>61514791
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rdKngL
lel, this is how I made it better.

>>61514808
It's not. The only differences are subtle variations in board design, some of the bigger AIB partners like Asus will design custom/optimized PCB designs for that GPU, which may often involve beefier VRM, and an enhanced cooler, for slightly more reliable/cooler/quieter operation.

Since GPUs follow GPU maker specs (like RX 580 will use this chip and this spec of memory) the performance (ignoring slight factory overclocks) is always +/- 5% regardless of which AIB partner you go for.

The only thing to look out for is:

1) Blower card if space constricted case (Mini-ITX builds), open air if a standard mATX or ATX tower.

2) Keep in mind GPU width or length limitations, again only applicable for Mini-ITX builds, but not really for standard mATX or ATX towers.

3) Organize by lowest to highest prices, and filter anything out that doesn't have an average 4 - 5 star review. Get the cheapest product that's reliable enough.

>>61514798
depends no what case you want and what features you want out of a board.

Does anybody know whether the newegg refurbished HDDs are good? I was told thatthey are essentially working HDDs that were wiped and cleaned up with a warranty

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>>61514798
The only thing extra ATX has is potentially 3 more PCI-e slots.

The average /g/aming machine here only ever uses one (read: 1) PCI-e based product, and that's a GPU. The mATX having a 4 slots is still overkill and still allows for SLI/Crossfire nonsense anyways.

MicroATX cases tend to be smaller, tidier, and cheaper than ATX cases.

MiniITX cases, power supplies, and motherboards have a tendency to be more expensive than ATX variants and you pay for additional compaction of features.

>>61514977
I wouldn't trust refurbished HDDs unless they were put into some kind of RAID array to begin with.

Normal HDDs are cheap enough these days, and you can get quality 3TB HDDs as low as $65 NEW.

>>61515018
Yeah, that makes sense, just wanted to see about saving money, the lowest price non refurbished is
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD3KE4291&cm_re=3tb_hard_drive-_-9SIA5AD3KE4291-_-Product

>>61514838

If you're unwilling to go proper headphones + desktop mic or modmic, the HyperX Cloud II is the better headset.
Ducky Shine, Filco and Corsair make better keyboards.
Logitech G403, G502 and G900 all have near perfect sensors.
Get lower profile memory (Corsair LPX) and get the Dark Rock Pro 3, not the standard. Or a Noctua NH-D15.
Add 2 fans for the front of the case, 140mm. Noctua NF-A14 or NF-A14 industrialPPC.

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/fkCCXH

How's this for an old dell vostro 200 upgrade, or could I build something from scratch that would be better than this for roughly $300 I'm just in need for something that will actually work properly

>>61515120
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#S=2050000,10000000&c=64,128&f=2&t=7200&sort=price&page=1

Hitachi, HGST, and Toshiba tend to be the more reliable brands today. I have a feeling what you linked is refurbished as the seller states they are "white label" unbranded drives, and one person has already commented that 2 of 4 they ordered were DOA.

>tfw puting my old dusty 7870 in my brand new am4 mitx build

WHEN IS THIS GOING TO END

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>>61515182
Never ever

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>>61514999
Thanks for the rundown.

>>61515171
That $65 Hitachi drive is a refurb too, from the same seller.

>>61515171
it seems that the only ones on newegg of that type are refurbished https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=hitachi+HUS724030ALE641&N=-1Also all the other ones are above my pay

>>61515241
How about this one instead of the first one i posted at >>61515120
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD3KU1806&cm_re=3tb_hard_drive-_-9SIA5AD3KU1806-_-Product

>>61515308
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16822149633
I'd get this personally, only $80 with the promo. Otherwise take your chances with a refurb. Might be doa or shit the bed in a few months, might run fine for years.

>>61515338
Im not quite sure on that, that's a good bit more than what i was going to pay. What does this offer that the cheaper ones that are new dont have?

Hey dudes, my build is almost complete but I wanted to ask how much of a problem heat will be for this unit and case. I got get a larger, full tower one with vents on the front and back for better airflow but the PC's sound will be pretty loud.

In terms of the meaty parts I'll stick with what I have, unless someone can recommend a better motherboard for DDR4 3200 ram

Going to put the order in tomorrow but if there's anything someone can point out to be an improvement please do say so (If it costs a bit more it isn't a worry)

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZsJJ9W

>>61515151
Pls halp

>>61515510
It's legit, reputable, not some random hdd with a sticker slapped on it. Pretty sure all the ones you linked are from goharddrive, which means they're probably refurbs.

>>61508140
Any of you guys know the email for Amazon UK customer support?
They're fuckin dicking me around and I can't access help because they've locked my account.
Oh you want to talk to us about why your account is locked, well FUCK YOU YOU CAN'T CAUSE ITS LOCKED.
And someone was telling me Amazon Customer Support was great. It probably is if you could fucking contact them.

>>61515553
No real complaints from me, anon. But, why a full sized case and a mATX board? If you don't absolutely need the cd-rom, you could check out the Fractal Design Mini C.

titan x pascal on craigslist for $700
what do you think?

Bully/Rate my shit, anons. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CmgCXH

>>61515553
To addon to this, would a X370 fatality be better than a B350 motherboard at all or is it just a waste of money?

>>61515644
The spacing isn't a huge issue for me, so I chose the case because in my mind more space inside = better
Would the cooling be adequate or should I slap on a fan to the side?

>>61515644
Shit forgot to addon, as for the motherboard I wasn't too sure what would be a good choice for 3200 ram. B350 is the cheapest one

Hey guys, I was installing a brand new intel cpu (g4560) on my motherboard, cooler was kinda loose so I took it out to check the pins. I forgot that taking the cooler off would spread the thermal paste. Do I need to reapply it? It was never turned on, I just took it off a couple of minutes later, it still looked fresh.

>>61514422
razer, corsair, and logitech are shit and overpriced, get a zowie ec2-a mouse and a cm storm mech kb

>>61515716
>>61515725
I have a Define R4, cooling is fine. You'll want 2 intake fans in the front.

I still stand by you should get the Mini C, but it's up to you.
My reasoning for the Mini C:
Has 2 drive bay slots, you have 2 drives. Even if you need to add another HDD, you can just place the SSD anywhere.
More directly airflow with 2 intake fans from the front to the motherboard/gpu. With the radiator mounted to the top, that is.
Nice tidy package.
Assuming you don't need that cd-rom, of course. External players exist, though. ;)

>>61515725
That motherboard is fine. The only other one around the same price would be the MSI B350M Gaming Pro anyway.

>>61515668
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9CdJ4C
you don't need 3200mhz with kabylake, hd 558 btfo out of those razer headphones, and full tower is a meme.

What would be a non-conventional way to attach a fan to a heatsink? I've got an old 40mm AMD fan that I'd like to secure to the heatsink of an Intel CPU because it is running very hot. Would just a bit of glue be enough?

>>61515911
zip ties

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>>61515921
Ehh...what about heat? The CPU was running at 104 degrees celsius.

>>61515911
automotive gasket sealant

>>61515633
Alright, I guess that's my choice on HDD. Now i need to choose my SSD. I was looking at these two: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242399

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178966

Is any of these two good or should i look for something different?

>>61515936
You need a bigger heatsink... and a bigger fan.

>>61515785
Thank you! Most of my indecision right now is based on cases. I'll stick with the R5, and I appreciate your tips - my autism is just making it really hard for me to switch from a mid-tower to the mini, I feel like all the parts will be too close to each other. For the R5 I'll add another intake fan at the front so hopefully that does the trick for general airflow and cooling. I will be using the CD drive, going to burn and play discs with this one

If anyone currently uses an R5 case, did you add a side fan or just one fan to the front? Would you recommend adding a side-fan or will that fuck up airflow

>>61515984
Never used either but I hear PNY recommend more. Adata makes good cheap ssd's.
Just go on pcpartpicker and sort by price/gb.

Got a hardfreeze when gayming, you know the typical one where you still see a frozen image of the game with a buzzing sound.
What could be the causes?

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My 3 year old r9 290 has been giving me trouble lately (occasional artifacts that go away after reseating it) so I'm considering offloading to some miner on eBay for around $200-$250 maybe a little more. Then using that to get a 1060 or a 580x because then even with the current gouging prices it'd be like 200 something for one after the eBay money.

Is this stupid? Should I just wait until prices go down again? Wait until new cards are released? Try and RMA the 290? I'm afraid it will die soon and I'll be stuck.

>>61516304
Horse flies

>>61516284
I know i can get it cheaper, i just want to get a second opinion before i buy. Also, do you mean GB as in the currency?

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Hey guys my pc was getting really hot to the touch so I added some upgrades. What do you think?

>high tech ice pack to cool down heat sink
>revolutionary duct tape to direct air flow

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how do you like my new build

Is my build alright?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gHQLRG

>>61508636
Why is it not crashing and burning like it should though. I want nothing more than to see crypto cucks suffer for their greediness and bring cheap video cards back.

>>61516749
Hang it on the exhaust you pleb

>>61516807
You want faster memory. 3000 or 3200 mhz. check the QVL.
I'm also assuming the graphics card is just a temporary thing until the market returns to normal, right?

>>61516807
Why the Ryzen 7 1700 pairing with the 1050 ti? Do you already have that monitor and gpu? Do you need a more powerful cpu and the gpu doesn't really matter?

You can answer those questions, but here's a quick list I whipped up in any case https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Ckb9W

Should I buy one of those 8tb WD easystore drives for the WD red inside?

>>61516080
>>61515936
I attached the fan using zip ties and now the temperature is around 50 degrees celsius under load. Thanks!

how good is the stock cpu cooler on ryzen 5s

>>61517304
depends on which Ryzen 5.
The 1400 comes with the Wraith Stealth which is decent, but you won't be overclocking with it.
The 1500X and 1600 come with the Wraith Spire, which is excellent and can handle a mild overclock to 3.8 Ghz. Anything above that gets toasty.
The 1600X doesn't come with a cooler.

>>61517259
What the fuck are you even doing anymore my dude.

>>61517326
My CPU was getting very hot so I put in an exhaust fan, ordered an intake fan and lashed an old and fan to the CPU heatsink using zip ties.

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>>61517326
>>61517433
Now the temperature is around half of what it was. Now how do you set up IPMI?

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>>61517450
>>61517326
Also.

should i bother overclocking before i start getting sub-60 fps in most games in the future?

>>61516304
post GPU and RAM

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>play flight sims often
>almost everything is processor-bound
>need to achieve MAXIMUM POWER to drag myself above like 30fps in X-Plane 11 while not resorting to potato mode

Which of these newfangled processors will give me the highest clock speeds the most reliably? I don't care if I need to go to fucking 5GHz to reach 60fps. I don't need more than 4 cores, unless the best speeds are only available on higher core units.

could you sli a 1080 and a 1070?

>>61517041
>>61517107
Thanks, I tweak it up a bit:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZcLb9W

i have a ryzen 1600 cpu and a asus prime b350 m-a mobo.I want to hookup a second monitor to my system but it uses VGA cable which my gpu doesnt have a slot for,my first monitor is hooked up to my gpu using hdmi cable.Can i hookup the second monitor using vga to the mobo itself or will that not work since ryzen doesnt have an integrated GPU?

>>61517729
name the games you play first.
The Intel i7 7700K is the FPS king at the moment, but sim games tend to favor more cores and more threads, so knowing the specific games can tell us whether you want AMD Ryzen or Intel 7700k.
Ryzen can't clock high but it does have 8 cores and 16 thread in it's highest consumer version at the moment.
The consumer i7 has 4 cores and 8 threads at the moment.

>>61517792
Connecting to the mobo won't work because the mobo connections require an integrated GPU. Those ports are there for the consumer release of the Raven Ridge APUs

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>>61517815
Why is it that the 7700k is so heavily recommended when the 4790k still exists?

>>61517815
so I have to connect to the slots on my gpu ?

>>61517872
because you can still get the 7700k new.

>>61517883
correct.

wheres the cheapest place to buy like 30m of cat5e rj45 cable in europe?
no amazon

I'm only planning on getting one 1080 but i plan on sli-ing it in the future once a single one starts feeling a bit dated. What mobo and what non-reference 1080s would be good for this?

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>>61517815
The flight sims I currently play are DCS and XP11. DCS runs pretty much perfectly on my 4770k, but XP11 can barely run at "acceptable" framerates with most of the settings turns pretty far down.

>>61518045
how much ram do you have?

>>61518089
16GB DDR3

>>61518097
There's your problem. Upgrade to 32GB. The specs for Xplane require 16GB of ram at minimum, with 24 GB recommended.

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>>61518107
Are you sure? I just loaded up the game, set everything to max settings, spawned myself in a really dense area (San Francisco), then chose the most strenuous time of day (sunset), and it was still using less than 6 gigs of ram.

>>61518005
I also plan on using a pci-e network card too.

>>61513462
Really depends on the application
I upgraded because my MSI 970 gaming board was on its last legs
Nice improvements overall especially in single threaded tasks like physics based indieshit (Kerbal space program, From the depths,...)
Most games didn't see much of an improvement as my 8350 was still powerful enough to not become the limiting factor
7-zip has gotten a lot faster, the system is a little snappier overall and the games that were previously CPU bound now run much faster
And power consumption is a lot lower on the ryzen

>>61513462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svELJ15PGPQ

>>61513462
>>61518288
Damnit, wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaPU0gzh3S8

>>61514890
So I know this is an old post but is PowerColor actually decent for cards? There's some PowerColor 580s in stock on newegg but they seem a LOT cheaper than the alternatives. Anyone got experience with em?

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r8 my build please.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7hQLRG
After watching GaymersNexus's video on the 7700k vs 1700 for streaming, I've finally decided to go with ryzen since it meets my needs: streaming, rendering, and muh games.
Not everything is set in stone: >GPU prices keep going up. If 1080Ti prices drop I might consider it.
>no clue what memory I should go with: do I only need to pay attention to comparability? Or does timing also affect performance.
>might just end up using the stock cooler for a year and then buying an aftermarket cooler when I see a big sale again.

Anything I should change? Trying to keep the price under $2,000 for the time being.

>>61518262
I would try it at the very least before blaming the processor. DDR3 ram is cheap now, the cheapest it will likely ever get

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>>61518328
Powercolor is bretty gud, they made good 480s and were crazy enough to make really power hungry dual GPUs. Pic related.

give criticism pls
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zM9RPs

>>61518402
Thanks. Though actually now that im looking at it, I currently have an r9 390. Is it even worth going up to the 580? I can sell the r9 for like 300 and get the 580 for basically like 50 bucks but I don't know if its actually worth the upgrade now that im thinking about it. Are the new drivers actually that big of an upgrade?

is ryzen 1600 good for video editing?

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I have an SG13 case and a Kraken X31

I upgraded from an i5 4590k to an i7 7700k (retarded upgrade but did it as business purchase)

This 7700k runs hotter than my 4590k, sometimes the fan spins up when it never did on the i5

What ITX case would allow a better liquid cooler than the X31? The X31 was perfect and quiet for the i5 but it doesn't feel like the right case & cooler for this piece of shit 7700k

>>61512375
Thanks dude :D
I went noctua purely cos I'm a fanboi...
Appart from that I went Asus cause I trust them a touch more and black/ black and white both work.
Thank you so much for the tips though is was a ton of help.
Oh and don't worry about the late reply I went to bed anywhoo such is life in the UK.

>>61518354
Seems pretty expensive, actually. It's only like 40 bucks cheaper compared to DDR4 since I would have to get a full set of 32GB+ to replace my 4x4GB.

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What is this case called?

>>61518766
Linus tech tips did a video on it yeasterday. google it.

>>61518864
yeah i just saw it. not for sale yet.

>>61518766
Dust magnet 5000

More Vega news when?
The 1080 is actually fucking increasing in price. What the fuck?!

>>61518462
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4JzHM8

x370 is unnecessary for a single gpu setup. Higher frequency ram. Added an ssd.

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>>61518524
reverse the intake and exhaust. Have an h75 cooling my housefire 290, used to use the mesh panel for intake but it was overheating everything in the case. Switched the front to exhaust and everything runs fine.

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>>61512975
I need some hindsiiiight. Anons puhlease.

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Looking into buying a Dell SE2717H. Can anybody tell me what the difference between the models 210-AIZR and 210-AJVN is?

>>61512975
Never second hand SSD .

>>61520360
Why's that?

>>61520384
You don't know how much read write the SSD has already been used.

>>61520468
How much could it possibly have? He has used it for 4 months, states he used it for gaming with games like Arma3, GTA5, Battlefield 1 and that's about it. Said he's switching to MAC of all things.
Don't you need to write like 82gb a day for 5 years, everyday to fill up the SSD worn out?

>>61520525
Well if you trust him then go for it. It could be an SSD flashed to look new.

>>61520534
Well, he does give receipt and all with it, the warranty is 5 years after all with 4 years 7 months left now.
Are there ways to see flashing?

>>61520572
>Are there ways to see flashing?
No. Not without specialized tools.
But if he has the receipt and warranty, make sure the model of the SSD and the one on the receipt match and ask if he has registered the warranty and to give you the relevant info for it.

>>61520605
Alright, thanks anon. I'm still on the edge whether to buy or not, it's a big investment after all for a poorfag.

>>61520627
>Poorfag
>2TB SSD
I mean do you really need 2TB? It is a huge saving if legit but for 430 dollars you can get a lot of good upgrades for your PC. Fellow poorfag as well, I got a 850 500 GB for 50% off new from Amazon last cyber monday.

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>>61520651
Well as I mentioned earlier I was planning on a second monitor, however I don't really need second one that badly.
I'm running on a i5 2500K and GTX 960 with 8gb RAM and plan on for several years before saving up for a more upgraded PC overall, all the games I play run decent enough on 1440p, save for pbug, which is hard drive and RAM intensive. 16GB of RAM is something I'm dreaming of right now and or new storage since my old two drives have been in use for 10 years soon and are full as well sluggish. 750gb and 500gb each.
I could just TRY and struggle with a 250gb SSD EVO I own already but haven't installed yet and instead buy a 200€ drawing tablet which I've never owned and something else. DECISIONS..

>>61520718
It is tough being poor.
So much to buy. So little to buy with.
And it all goes up in flames if I ever get a gf.