/wt/ watch thread

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anyone have experience with replica watches from e.g. intime01?

>inb4 poorfag

>>61438797
Dont buy replica watches

>>61438797
*Woops sorry meant to post "counterfeit"

>>61438797
You're better off getting a Chinese watch like a Sea-Gull, Shanghai, etc.

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>>61438847
why not? nothing wrong with it

>>61438852
"counterfeit" "replica" "fake" whatever you want

>>61438874
why is that? a good replica is a good watch but it just happens to look like a expensive other one

>>61439048
Why buy a fake whenyou can have something genuine for the same money?

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>>61438568
A friend of mine came into some money and has been spending some of it on watches. What's a good way to trigger him?

>>61439048
Generally a minimum of effort is made on fakes. Actual brand name Chinese watches can be pretty great for the money, though. If you want a fake that doesn't suck, you have to pay for the privilege, which rather defeats the point in my opinion.

>>61439120
Knockoffs, Sturhling watches, etc

>>61439120
Watch watches has he been buying?

Anyone have experience with the nato/zulu straps from countycom? Are they well made or overpriced garbage for people that fall for the surplus meme?

>>61439221
>Knockoffs
Tips on finding these without buying obvious shit?
>Sturhling watches
What's the deal with these? I'm reading up on them now, but figured I'd ask for the /wt/ opinion.

>>61439287
Not entirely sure as I found out about this from a mutual friend (haven't seen the guy in person for a while), but apparently he got a good deal on some sort of watch (not a dive style watch, don't have much of a description) for $1,700 and talks shit on Omegas.

>>61439353
>>Knockoffs
>Tips on finding these without buying obvious shit?
Answer is always Bagel.

>>61439074
why not? seriously, $300 isnt too much to put on a good fake, or a watch otherwise, at all
i kinda just want a rolex/omega/VC replica for the fun of it

>>61439148
i have no need for a chink-brand watch i own a couple of tissot and a old omega

>>61439397
If you just want a replica for fun, then get a $50 bagelsport

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>>61439397
Let me get this straight, you want a shitty chink fake as opposed to a decent known chink brand? You already own decent watches, and you want to flesh out the pure trash portion of your collection?

>>61439435
>>61439437
>you want a shitty chink fake
no i want a good chink fake, im prepared to pay around $300 for a well made fake

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>>61439458
>I'm prepared to pay around $300 for pure chink shit
FTFY, can't fix stupid though.

>>61439481
>pure chink shit
you absolute retard, fuck
thats literally why i asked if anyone had experience with more expensive fakes such as those from intime01
i guess not then, i guess everyone here is just larping with muh chinkshit faggot metal armband and pretending they actually know shit

>>61439458
But seriously, why? People buy fakes to fool others. And you sound like you want to fool yourself which you won't be ale to.

>>61439048
Replica means something very different.

>>61439534
A decent fake is still going to be $1000 or more.
Had you done any research whatsoever, you would already know this.
As I said, can't fix stupid, I haven't that great of power.

>>61439458
Buy a Bagelsport Submariner homage and fit it with a Rolex Submariner dial and a less shitty strap.

>>61439534
>more expensive fakes
The whole point of a fake is to be cheap, why would you defeat the purpose like that?

>>61439397
If you can drop $300 on a wrist toy you can be a little patient and save to buy something actually decent.

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>>61439566
>Had you done any research whatsoever, you would already know this.
i hope you are just pretending to be retarded, good god
care to take a guess at what im trying to do here?
jesus fuck, man

>>61439551
>>61439553
sure whatever

>>61439604
why not? why are fakes supposed to be cheap shit that dont look remotely similar?

>>61439613
i have no need for that

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>>61439658

>>61439658
>i have no need for that
No need for what? A decent watch?

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>>61439658

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>>61438568
Lmao Archie is going places.

>>61439658
Just go to the replica watch forum, they have tons of information and comparisons. They love to entertain stupidity and waste tons of money on overpriced fakes and pretend their fake watches aren't absolute trash.

>>61439367
Those look fun, I might buy a few to take apart. I'd like to get into horology as a hobby once I have an income again. It'd be funny to badly paint a Rolex logo on the dial of a Bagelsport Submariner homage and insist that it's a real Rolex.

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>>61439553
Fuck off Ninefag

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>>61439804
Yeah, that would be hilarious. Are you fucking 12?

>>61439892
No, just an asshole. I would only wear it when visiting aforementioned watchfriend specifically for messing with him, it's not like I'd wear it in polite company or anything.

>>61440025
I feel like actual medically defined autism is more prevalent in wt than in other parts of 4chan for some reason.

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>>61440025
Yup, 12.

>>61440050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IHaE-TXbZQ

>>61439763
ok at least your helpful

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How many Amphibias are too much to own? I already got a Russian 710 and a Soviet Tonneau. I feel like I still need the small 420 with a classic dial (and maybe a coffin-link bracelet), like the Tank and maybe mod a 710 or a 090 with a Radio Room dial.

>>61439804
mass-produced shit like a rolex isn't horology relevant

Oh look...the faggot thread...

>for the appreciation of micro engineering...

Bullshit. Discuss micro engineering techniques and fucking gear timing you jewelry wearing faggots.

This belongs in the fashion board.

>>61440276
>ask about amfibia
>post komandirskie

>>61440297
No!

>>61440297
oh look a faggot

SARB033 or SKX009? I'm trying to make a 6 watch collection. I have a sarb017, srpb09 sna411, and an orient neo 70 panda. thinking about selling the neo 70.

>>61440355
How about not a Seiko

>>61440290
I'm interested in tearing apart Bagelsports to learn my way around mechanical watches without ruining something expensive, I'd like to eventually be able to work on old watches that I sometimes find for cheap. I'm interested in making a blatantly fake watch to joke with a friend who has apparently started buying decent mechanical watches. Is there a better watch to badly fake? Are there better cheap mechanical movements to learn with?

>>61440300
I hope your only pretending.

>>61440300
>smug post
>yet doesn't know that it is an Amphibian

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>>61438797
get a parnis instead. this one is even an original design. $110 with ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, high beat miyota movement and solid end links.

>>61439367
>>Knockoffs
No need to buy fake watches just buy from online shops that make the same desings as the big brands, people wont notice at one meter distance.
Most desings are so old that watch manufaturers can copy them without any consecuences.

>>61440412
Bullshit you are. You have no such interest or you wouldn't be here in the jewelry thread.

And we all fucking know it.

>>61440355
Why are you thinking of selling the panda? I have the red neo70s chrono (the older, almost circular one as opposed to the newer almost rectangular one) and was thinking about selling it since I don't wear chronographs very often. Judging from the fact that it seems to have been out of production for a while and impossible to find online, I might be able to make a profit on it, but I have no idea where I could sell it. I also might never have a chance to get it back if I change my mind about it.

>>61440355
sarb

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>>61440503
I spent $4 on $840 worth of mechanical watches a while back from a shop that didn't know what they were. I intend on keeping pic related and would like to service it without paying the value of the watch. I'm also going to need a /diy/ hobby to keep me sane when I go back to school and am no longer living in a place where I can pound on steel at 4am. Watchmaking and lockpicking sound like my best options for mechanical hobbies that take up small amounts of space and don't generate noise or smells that would irritate people in the next apartment over.

I don't give a fuck what any of you say i want this cuckaxial chronograph movement.

https://youtu.be/AAXnxdppIPc

>>61440732
>I spent $4 on $840 worth of mechanical watches a while back from a shop that didn't know what they were.
Do they have a website?

>>61438568
That Archie vid is fucking hilarious.

Nice one Arch!

>>61435777
>The Rolex 31xx, 32xx, 41xx and Tudor 56xx movements are all better than any movement made by the entirety of the Swatch Group. Not a single movement that The Swatch Group currently makes is even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as any of those, and that's not even to mention the towering difference in finishing quality.
3135 is considered worse than a 2892-2A by watchmakers:
http://www.chronometrie.com/rolex3135/rolex3135.html

rolex is known for their shitty finish:
http://www.timezone.com/2002/09/16/the-rolex-explorer-ref-14270-part-2/

>>61440743
Fuck. Now I want one too. Must be thicc though

>>61440806
>3135 is considered worse than a 2892-2A by watchmakers:
>http://www.chronometrie.com/rolex3135/rolex3135.html
You're either a liar or an illiterate retard, get the fuck out of here!

>>61440743
>>61440935
Best goys!

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>>61440935
Yeah only problem with the watch is the size. I prefer 36-40mm its 44mm and 16mm thick!

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>>61440769
No, they were going out of business and are now out of business. It was a local gun shop that existed purely because of the brick-and-mortar requirements for firearms importers. Since they didn't care much about the shop itself, prices could be a little crazy, either weirdly high or weirdly low. They also dealt in silver and gold and would occasionally buy lots of jewelry from estate sales and the like, but they only cared about the silver and gold content and not about the overall value of the individual pieces: anything that wasn't made of precious metals got tossed in a $1 junk bin. People who knew things about precious stones would go there for their "junk" jewelry, and I found these "junk" watches when I went in for gun stuff and had just started browsing /wt/. I found the 10k gold-filled Omega I posted, pic related, and two Elgin watches.

>>61440722
He picked the 2892 over the 3135 just because the 2892 is older with a longer history and thinner. The first point is obviously unfair, and kind of pointless anyway since Rolex and ETA both have a long history of incremental changes and upgrades to their movements without changing the model names so the movements labeled 2892 today are not the same 2892 from decades ago and neither are the 3135s or the 3255s that replaced it. And the second point is fucking dumb because the 3135 is obvious thin enough to fit in the watches Rolex uses it in, so making it thinner would add literally nothing. ETA movements benefit from being thin and small to fit in as many possible third party watches as possible, Rolex can make their movements whatever size is appropriate for their watches.

As for shitty finish, Rolex makes tool watches with solid casebacks. You can't even open the caseback without a special Rolex tool. Do you have x-ray vision or something? Why do you care?

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>>61440943
go hate swatch somewhere else faggot.

>>61440806
Finish isn't something one should worry with when the movements are never intended to be displayed.
Rolex movements are pure functions, hundreds of millions into developing new ways of keeping time accurately.
Though, saying that, to have such rough tool marks and unfinished jewel settings present in a £5000 watch is to some degree, unacceptable.

>>61440943
>You're either a liar or an illiterate retard, get the fuck out of here!
learn to read
> Having said that though there is absolutely no question in my mind, that I prefer the ETA 2892-2A over the other two. Okay, so it’s been around almost half a century and in many ways isn’t as sophisticated as the Rolex – no Breguet hairspring, or Parachrom hairspring material etc – but during its long lifetime in its best available chronometer version, it has proven itself to be an exceptionally accurate, reliable and tough movement. Its two main advantages over the 3135 are that it’s quite a bit thinner, only 3.6mm thick versus 6mm, and has only one major weakness – the inefficiency of its automatic winding system, as I mentioned in my earlier review of it. While good enough for most reasonably active folk, it is not efficient enough for those people, young or old, who lead a sedentary lifestyle.

>>61440732
More Bullshit.

>>61440969
>http://www.timezone.com/2002/09/16/the-rolex-explorer-ref-14270-part-2/

"the only intriguing aspect of this watch is that a movement so

lacking is basic workmanship is capable of being so accurately

timed. This is, no doubt, a product of the thickness (and thus

permissible loose tolerances) of the movement, and the use of

computer-timed balance/spring assemblies. For the person for

whom accuracy of rate in a mechanical watch is the only criterion

in buying a watch, and for whom value-for-the-dollar is of little concern."


chronometrie.com

Guy has a website where he shows movements he has disassembled cleaned and serviced. Has been operating for a long period of time and is an expert in his field. You try to call him an idiot for his opinion in a 4chan comment. You have never even held both movement.

I love rolex and would rather have a 3135 over a 2892-2 personally....but the 2892-2 is a pretty decent movement for the price. From a Watch technicians perspective i can see why one could prefer it.

>>61440952
Fucking hell. Thats a deal breaker for me.

>>61441088
Just get the moonwatch you tasteless mong.

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>>61441059
k

>>61440979
>BARREL ONE
>BARREL TWO
>COLUMN WHEEL
Holy shit, Memegacucks will defend this.

>>61441049
You learn to read, you asswipe, are you an actual real ETA shill or some mongoloid?
>they're roughly the same
>only I like the ETA because it's thinner and only the autowinding is shit
>so therefore it's obviously better
The last part was imagined there by your retarded extra chromosome-ridden waterbrain.

>>61440355
>6 shitters instead of 1 or 2 watches
lol never change, /g/

>>61441106
>Unironically liking 44mmx16mm
>Calling me tasteless

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Repostan:

Which one, /wt/?

>Omega Seamaster 300
Kind of blingy, but may remain more interesting to look at over time because of this.
No date window is a plus. So is the display caseback, I'm almost ashamed to say.
Can get a new one at half the suggested retail price from an acquaintance, so money-wise this is the best choice.

>Tudor Pelagos LHD
I LOVE the ruggedness and lack of bling factor (it's all matte).
Afraid it'll get boring to look at after a while because of the lack of bling factor and flat crystal.

>Omega Speedmaster pro
Love the design.
The movement is definitely not as advanced as the other two watches. Also not sure about winding every day.
Probably the most iconic watch ever, and therefore the most common and least unique of the three.

>>61441202

Pelagos

>>61441202
I really don't like tudors they are like poor mans rolex and I really dont like omegas although I own vintage omegas.
Speed meme man on the cuck is probably only thing worth the time and money.

>>61441202
Knock the Seamaster off the option list.

Try on both speedy and Pelagos, then decide.
Personally, I'd say the Pelagos.

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>>61441202
BB and MOTFM

>>61441168
dumbass I am referring to the true moonwatch, which is 42mm and about 13.5mm thick.

>>61440979
>2021
>new Omega Grand Master Co-Axial comes out
>BARREL ONE
>BARREL TWO
>BARREL THREE
>COLUMN WHEEL
>FREE-SPRUNG SILICON BALANCE WHEEL
>RATCHET WHEEL
>ADJUSTED TO SIX POSITIONS, FIVE TEMPERATURES, SIX PHASES OF THE MOON AND ALL SEVEN CHAKRAS
>THIS PART DOES NOT HAVE A NAME YET BUT ITS SWISS PART NUMBER IS 7798

>>61441088
For me as well. I can't find any info on the caliber in terms of diameter or lift angle or anything like that so i don't even know what size of watch they can fit it in. Its only in a 44 and 45mm watch as of now. If it fits and they put it in a 38 or 40mm or even 42mm I would start saving for it now.

>>61441115
>The last part was imagined there by your retarded extra chromosome-ridden waterbrain.
clearly your reading skills are lacking.
'has only one major weakness' implies that rolex' has more, so if you read the rolex part:
>This is probably the most efficient automatic winding system available today. But unfortunately its tiny diameter doesn’t give enough support to the weight to stop it from hitting against the movement plates every time the watch is subjected to even light perpendicular blows, let alone strong ones.
>The [other] problem is that the 2 setting wheels under the dial, and the two small and thin posts that they pivot on, can be easily damaged if the lubrication runs dry. [...] This is less of a problem on the second post as it is a steel pin that is not riveted into the main plate. So it can be easily replaced if it is worn or damaged. Unfortunately the first post is part of the main plate, and is made of brass just like it. Therefore if this post gets damaged like that, the only way to repair it is by replacing the entire main plate.

>>61441202
seamaster is the best looking
speedmaster is the coolest
tudor is the best value and is what i would get if it fit me but i just have 7.25 inch wrists like a woman so it wears a bit large on me. You really need to go try them all on.

>>61441261
A 38mm speedmaster would be so nice. It wont happen though

>>61440806
>3135 is considered worse than a 2892-2A by watchmakers

Why would you link the article if you were going to brazenly lie about its contents? The 3135 is a significantly superior technical design to the ETA 2892-A2, and I think that article's author really undersells the technical advantages of the 3135. It has:

1) A longer power reserve
2) Superior winding efficiency
3) A free sprung balance
4) A Breguet overcoil on the hairspring
5) A balance bridge design
6) Better functional finishing on the movement

>rolex is known for their shitty finish

The case/hands/dial and especially bracelet finishing on Omegas are utterly laughable for the prices they charge and don't deserve to even be mentioned in the same breath as Rolex/Tudor. I've handled a $4,000 Aqua Terra up close and the case/dial/hands and bracelet finishing were noticeably worse than a $600 Seiko SDGM001, and no, I'm not exaggerating.

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>>61441334
it already has but its not the original pro.

these fuckers are trying to sell women 38mm watches now... jesus fucking christ

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>>61441303
>i just have 7.25 inch wrists like a woman
Did you mean 6.25? Because 7.25 is above average size for a non-fat person.

I have a 7 inch wrist and I can pull off 45mm watches like pic related.

>>61441245
>Knock the Seamaster off the option list.
Why?

>>61441340
Maybe you handled a shitty aqua terra but i have handled seamasters and speedmasters and they have excellent finishing. And in case you haven't noticed all the new omega's are coming with their in house movements. Everyone knows you have Omega .. no one gives a fuck.

>>61441350
>women 38mm watches
must be for the US market

>>61441354
No I mean 7.25 inch wrists. I am a manlet and most of friends have 8 inch wrists.

>>61441354
You wrists look flat and you may or may not be delusional as fuck

What is a free sprung balance ? What is it compared to?

>>61441275
>one is not that much of an issue since everything is protected
>the other only happens at a lack of service, which doesn't really happen with a Rolex
>also see >>61441340
You're either absolutely dumb, or a fucking liar.

>>61441383
I handled a PO chrono and the hands were laughable. Japs made better hands in the 70's.

>>61441398
>you may or may not be delusional as fuck
You tell me, m'lord. Am I pulling off that 45mm watch or not?

>>61441354
also that watch has an integrated bracelet so it wears smaller than most other 45mm watches. It still looks too big

>>61440979
>cuck-axial

LMAO the ultimate proof that there are no limits to the extent that the Swatch Group will brazenly exploit their customers.

Cuck-axial is a complete failure in production movements. Same or worse service intervals, worse sensitivity to prompt and regular servicing, worse difficulty in servicing, worse sensitivity to being serviced correctly and for what? Zero tangible benefits. The 9300 would be strictly improved by going back to a traditional Swiss lever escapement and admitting that any improvements in a 9300 over an ETA 2892-A2 are from the switch to a free sprung balance and a balance bridge design (i.e. copying Rolex/Tudor).

>>61441402
Does not have a rate regulator arm, which means the hairspring "breathes" more freely during oscillation. Better for accuracy but a bitch to regulate. Only high-end movements use it since it can't just be slapped together, it has to be painstakingly regulated, and its advantages are unnoticeable in more basic, inherently less accurate movements.

Look up the rest, I'm lazy.

>>61441417
You realize all Swiss companies use high quality Swiss suppliers for watch hands right? You ever hear of Fiedler or Aiguilla?

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Speedtimer.

>>61441427
>that watch has an integrated bracelet so it wears smaller
Why?
The effective visual lug to lug distance on that transocean's integrated bracelet is 55mm, which is a lot even by modern standards.

>It still looks too big
I have wrist to spare in keeping the lugs from overshooting, it looks perfectly fine.

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>>61441383
I actually love Omega, the actual one that existed before the Swatch Group bought them and threw away everything that made Omega great. Pic related is my Lemania 5100 Speedmaster from before the Swatch Group ruined Omega.

> have handled seamasters and speedmasters and they have excellent finishing

For you. You probably have very little experience with really well finished case/dial/hands/bracelets on watches and thus were impressed by the Seiko SARB tier finishing levels.

>>61441505
I like it

>>61441417
>>the other only happens at a lack of service, which doesn't really happen with a Rolex
how did you arrive at that conclusion?
would claim the opposite:
a. rolex is the go-to brand for newbies that don't understand that mechanical watches need servicing and thus the used market is full of ones that are unserviced.
b. rolex did increase the needed service interval prolly due to the common lack of servicing.
c. servicing by rolex has very long waiting lists (months) and takes a long time (weeks), so people do postpone it for too long.

>>61441503
So much for in-house.

>>61441516
>Lemania 5100 Speedmaster from before the Swatch Group ruined Omega.
And Lemania.

>>61441469
This is good thank you.

>>61441516
I was going to various stores to try on a watch i am buying in a few months. I tried on Rolex explorers and submariners as well as the omega sea and speed masters. . They are finished pretty fucking well.. much better than the nip shit you mentioned. I also love pre swatch omega but you go too far with your hate to the point where its not based in reality.


>>61441595
They all buy hands .. Rolex buys its fucking hands from someone else(Fiedler).

These past few threads have been filled with more autistic screeching than usual.

>>61441674
One guy is really really vocal about hating Swatch and everything that they own for some reason.

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>>61441595
>And Lemania.
Very true. Imagine just unilaterally deciding to cease producing one of the 5 greatest automatic chronograph movements of all time arbitrarily.

>>61441635
I own a 116223 Rolex Datejust in addition to the Seiko SDGM003 (which is, to be fair, finished far better than typical for its pricepoint) and have handled much of the Rolex range up close.

If you wish to continue pretending modern Omega's are finished anywhere close to as well as modern Rolexes, you can feel free to continue in your fantasies, but the rest of us who have actually handled watches from both brands up close and aren't legally bind all know the truth.

Oh and by the way, the finishing on Grand Seiko's is obviously better than even Rolex, much less modern Omegas.

>>61441505
This won't be see there's too much bullshit going on in this thread right now

>>61441595
In house is a stupid meme of the past few years. Practically nobody except for very specialized factories can make watch hands, I doubt any watch manufacturers make their own. Hairsprings are also very difficult to manufacture. Most companies don't make their own sapphire crystals or quartz crystals. For a long time high quality bracelets were made by third parties like Gay Frères until Rolex bought them out. JLC used to provide ebauches for many of the finest watchmakers including the big three. Lume compound comes from a third party. Nobody used to give a shit as long as the final product was good, now companies have to pretend they made every little tiny thing themselves. Only the truly enormous conglomerates like ETA or Seiko or to a lesser extent Rolex can really hope to possibly own every single step of production.

>>61441505
I really love that design. How's it running for you? Have you had it serviced yet?

>>61441728
What cam did you take your wrist shots with, i love them. What settings on the camera / lense?

Oh did you see Shane by chance by the way? I can't wait to get the marvel back I need to switch up my wrist and its a perfect fit.

>>61441728
When it came to decide whether the L5100 or the V7750 survives they chose the Valjoux simply because the Lemania was ugly and the 7750 looked better all decorated through a display caseback, despite itself being as pedestrian as a Miyota 8250.

>>61441749
>I doubt any watch manufacturers make their own.
Probably Vostok still makes their own Classic-line hands.

>>61441770
Both of those are phone camera shots from my Moto Z Play, but edited in Adobe Lightroom afterwords to improve them.

Haven't seen Shane yet, might see him tomorrow if I have time. I'll mention it in the thread if I get a chance to see him and see your Lord Marvel while it's still there.

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>>61441728
Dnggg dat dial/strap combo. Stop posting you're making me lust after a Datejust or even Daydate

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>>61441803
>When it came to decide whether the L5100 or the V7750 survives they chose the Valjoux simply because the Lemania was ugly and the 7750 looked better all decorated through a display caseback, despite itself being as pedestrian as a Miyota 8250.

Too bad the V7750 is technically inferior to the L5100 in every single respect and the Swatch Group couldn't bear the thought of continuing to make a small number for us crazy people who actually care about the technical aspects of mechanical movements.

>>61441810
It's funny, I normally really don't like two tone watches and especially don't like two-tone jubilee bracelets. The only reason I wear that watch is because I saw a pic somewhere of a two-tone DJ on leather and was blown away by how much better I liked it. I only ever wear mine on leather or a perlon.

>>61441770
>What cam did you take your wrist shots with
>>61441808
>phone camera shots from my Moto Z Play
I've found that a lot of people don't know how to focus their phone cameras and don't realize how much clearer their still shots will be if the phone is stabilized. Phone pictures don't have to look like trash, as >>61441728 nicely demonstrated.

>>61441728
Omega movements are finished to a far higher standard than Rolex movements and their case finishing is to be expected at their price point. I don't give a fuck what watches you own; it doesn't prove your point.

>>61441884
I prefer the L5100 to the v7750 in every way and i have no idea why the fuck they didn't keep it . That modern "version" (2009 C01.211) of it is a disgrace.

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>>61438568
I love my Breguet!

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>>61441906
>Omega movements are finished to a far higher standard than Rolex movements

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>>61441760
Been running ok. Little slow but ok. It was apparently serviced before I bought it a month and a half ago but don't know the extent of it. I don't know who I could even bring it to if something went wrong. Might be someone in NYC who knows his stuff about Seikos but I will have to do some searching.

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>>61441974
a

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>>61441884
That actually doesn't work for me at all, weird. But yeah two tone Jubilee bracelets are a bit ugly to me too, even the single color ones can look out of place on some models.

>>61441808
>>61441896
Yeah I need to learn lightroom and how to use a camera properly. That way i can bust out photos of my collection on a whim like this guy

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>>61441728
>Seiko SDGM003 (which is, to be fair, finished far better than typical for its pricepoint)
do you have macro shots?
almost fall for the sarb033-meme before actual close-up shots (from seiko themselves no less) showed shit finishing as to be expected for that price point.

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>>61442224
My SARB looks fine to me but here, knock yourself out.

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>>61438568

>>61438568
Just a couple of pieces ive picked up over the last few years.

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>>61442224
>>61442298

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>>61442224
This video will give you some indication of the finishing quality:


The SGDM003 case features five alternating layers of polished/brushed/polished/brushed polished finishes, each bracelet link is made up of five separate articulating pieces alternating brushed/polished finishes, the dial has an intricate guilloche pattern, the indices are ridged on top and polished on the sides, the hands each have one brushed half and one polished half. The crystal is dual AR coated and the case and bracelet have a DIAshield scratch resistant coating.

The finishing is, to be honest, patently absurd for the price. I'm keeping mine long term so that if I ever manage to get my hands on a 4s15 donor movement I can use to give it a movement that matches the quality of the case/dial/hands/bracelet.

>>61442473
Forgot the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUWwSoZQUD0

>>61442433
Fuck off she's not that dirty lol although she could definitely use a cleaning

>>61442452
Got any clearer pictures?

>>61440524
that's what I'm debating. I only paid 100 for it brand new which is a steal. but I would sell it to fund a new watch.

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>>61442537
If you had to have an Explorer ii that design looks like dogshit compared to the previous design.

>>61442586
Really? I beg to differ, the 5 digit doesn't stand out in anyway, it might as well be a seiko. With the polar dial on the new one the orange gives it the pop it needs.

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>>61442537
>>61442586
explorer II looks like shit period.

Even this 39mm version is better looking.

>>61442298
but all markers have unequal cuts

>>61442627
Looks like fucking air king why the hell would I want something that looks like the king of turds

>>61442809

It's called a shadow you dunce.

>>61442549
Don't have the watch with me and i cant search my photos with the firewall here. Ive got the new white gold pepsi gmt on though if you want to see that

>>61442835

>Explorer looks like the Air King
What are you, stupid?

>>61442837
agreed. how the hell would they have unequal cuts and be able to pass that shit

>>61442612
With that globbed on paint the newer explorer ii is the one that looks like a Seiko.

>>61442473
>I'm keeping mine long term so that if I ever manage to get my hands on a 4s15 donor movement I can use to give it a movement that matches the quality of the case/dial/hands/bracelet.
only way to keep a seiko long-term is to not use it, it's impossible to service:
seiko only keeps parts for 10 years and only shares specs/parts with their own watchmakers.

>>61442881
arabic numerals at 3 6 9 just like air king, change the stick markers to numerals and the seconds hand to green and boom fucking air king. Who would want to own the definition of a poor mans rolex is beyond me.

>>61442939

Explorer is thirty years older than the Air King. The Air King is more like an homage to the Explorer you tard.

>>61442837
doesn't look very angled for such deep shadows to occur and it's a well-known defect which seiko deems normal.
but please do show a full frontal shot with no shadows.

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>>61442837
>>61442978
here's how it should look if perfect except that marker at 12

>>61442939
Are you crazy? The explorer I is among the best looking watches Rolex makes. Airking is too crowded and shitty looking. If i could have three Rolex's I would have a 6202sub, a 1016 explorer, and a 4467 datejust.

>>61443018
>what is parallax

>>61443049
I am not the guy that is talking about this with you but That can't be do to parallax error at that distance and angle.

>>61443043
I have to agree with you on 4467, is just such a classy piece in every way

>>61443072
>do lol

>>61443043
I would add the original Pan Am albino GMT to that list, that thing is just stunning with the right patina

>>61441303
>speedmaster is the coolest
I think too many people have it for it to be cool anymore.

Or maybe I'm overestimating watch awareness and ownership among normies.

>>61443119
Most normies wear casio, timex, and chink fashion watches. You are overthinking it.

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>>61443018

You're a tard.

>>61443147
What about upper middle class normies?

>>61443168
R O L E X R O L E X R O L E X R O L E X R O L E X

>>61443168
Overpriced chink fashion watches.

>>61441714
Probably because they singlehandedly fucked up the majority of the Swiss market. They're essentially the EA of watches.

>>61443147
most normies wear no watch at all

>>61443269
overpriced compared to what?
casio has some proprietary straps, so you can't use any other strap, so shit.
timex has some comically loud quartz movement for their non-chronos, so shit.

>>61443482
Hey man i hate them for what they did to Omega but I can also be objective. They do make some decent movements. Modern Omegas are not finished as poorly as this guy is saying. Their new movements are finicky but are also forward thinking, well made, and finished really really well. I would rather buy a vintage Omega but its not akin to a 300 dollar watch...

>>61443610
>Hey man i hate them for what they did to Omega but I can also be objective.
what do you think they did?
Omega was the running joke of the watch industry in the 70s with their absurd new designs. Swatch resurrected them.

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>>61442917
Absolute nonsense.

First of all, Seiko only guarantees the continued production of spare parts for 10 years after they discontinue a movement, not that spare parts will only be available for ten years after they discontinue that movement.

In fact, since it is relatively rare to have to replace parts in modern Seiko movements when they are serviced (or to have to do so in vintage Daini Seikosha produced movements), Seiko's spare parts reserves for a movement tend to last for decades before spare parts start becoming scarce.

To give some examples, I've had three 1970s Seiko LM Specials with 52xx movements serviced and the only spare parts needing by any of them was a NOS day wheel (yes, I found a NOS day wheel for a Seiko movement from the 1970s) and some crystal replacements (where I swapped to generic sapphire crystals anyway).

I've also had a 1975 King Seiko Special 5256 serviced (it needed zero spare parts) and a 1971 Seikomatic-P 5106 (which needed zero spare parts).

Multiple /wt/ posters have also had vintage Lord Marvels, LM Specials and King Seikos from the 1970s serviced and in all of those cases virtually none needed spare parts.

Finally, Seiko does not restrict parts sales or specs from independent watchmakers and in fact most of the vintage Seiko specialist watchmakers in North America are independent watchmakers.

To summarize: If you were to buy a 4s15 today (which is itself an updated 52xx movement that Seiko has been making since the 1970s and never stopped producing) you would be guaranteed to be able to find spare parts for it for at least 10 years after Seiko decides to ever stop producing the movement, and in all likelihood would still be able to find spare parts for it for at least 20-30 years after that.

>>61441884
w2c that Perlon

>>61442917
Stop spreading misinfo. Its 10 years after the movement has been discontinued and for Grand Seiko theyve upgraded to 20 years.

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>>61443740

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>>61443690

>>61443745
It's an EULIT Palma and they are available in North America from Holben's Fine Watch Bands and in Europe from Yellys.

>>61443745
https://www.ebay.com/sch/trendart-24/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

>>61443740
>I've also had a 1975 King Seiko Special 5256 serviced (it needed zero spare parts) and a 1971 Seikomatic-P 5106 (which needed zero spare parts).
utter bullshit.
you can't run any watch from 1971 till today w/o a service and then need zero spare parts. for example no main-spring will live that long.

>>61438903
hell yeah my guy, wearing mine right now

>>61443740
>Finally, Seiko does not restrict parts sales or specs from independent watchmakers and in fact most of the vintage Seiko specialist watchmakers in North America are independent watchmakers.
please link to detailed write-ups from those

here's one watchmaker that doesn't even now the right specs for the timegrapher:
http://watchguy.co.uk/service-grand-seiko-gs45-calibre-4520a/

also tells that there are no parts for independent ones and for JDM only Seiko Japan has them:
http://watchguy.co.uk/service-grand-seiko-gs45-calibre-4520a/#comment-303010

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FUCK. I just got this in the mail. Bought it on prime day for 160 CAD. Yet when I'm opening up the box its all dinged up. Then I open the watch box and the watch is sitting off to the side of the pillow, with the clasp loose and undone. There is no prastic protective film anywhere on the watch, and it's covered in greasy finger prints. Fuck me. Plus it rattles like hell when I wear it, the crown is uncomfortable to unscrew and operate, and the bezel is super stiff. The blue on the dial is nice though I guess, but the display is not even sapphire.

I know I got it for a good price, but should I return it? It's just not doing it for me:s
Plus the folded end links in the bracelet trigger me.

>>61443803
sure, best thing would have been if omega died on the quartz crisis.
but w/o swatch they would have died ten years later after they unsuccessfully tried to compete with their own ugly quartz watches instead of moving up to the luxury like rolex.

>>61444195
Return it and don't buy another shitter. Save up money and get a fucking submariner.

>>61443775
>Its 10 years after the movement has been discontinued
anything else doesn't make sense, why would one need to spell it out?

>>61444225
Nah

>>61443915
>utter bullshit.
>you can't run any watch from 1971 till today w/o a service and then need zero spare parts. for example no main-spring will live that long.

No one said any of the 1970's Seikos I've purchased ran continuously since the 1970s, in fact I'm sure many spent many years sitting in drawers unused. Nonetheless, none of them needed any spare parts when I got them serviced after receiving them. My 1975 Kind Seiko Special has ~300-310 degrees of amplitude dial-up after servicing, while the three LM Specials were all in the ~220 degrees range dial up (which is normal for 1970s mid-range Seiko movements).

>>61444079
Just because that watchmaker had no idea where to look for specs or parts doesn't mean they aren't available, and suggesting that any difficulty in finding parts for a movement from the 1970's has anything to do with *current* Seiko movement spare parts availability is goalpost moving of the highest order.

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Anyone know what watch this is?

>>61444272
>No one said any of the 1970's Seikos I've purchased ran continuously since the 1970s, in fact I'm sure many spent many years sitting in drawers unused.
so basically confirming what you called 'absolute nonsense' seconds before

>Just because that watchmaker had no idea where to look for specs or parts doesn't mean they aren't available
occam's razor says to trust some reputable watchmaker more than some random faggot on /g/

>>61444497
>so basically confirming what you called 'absolute nonsense' seconds before

Hardly. Just because the four separate Seiko's from the 1970s I've had serviced may not have been continuously running since the 1970s doesn't mean they didn't run for a large part of that time, either way not one of the five Seikos from the 1970s I've had serviced needed any spare parts and all produced good amplitude and accuracy after service.

And it isn't just me either, many /wt/ posters have purchased Seikos from the 1970s and had them serviced without them needing any spare parts. You just need to know which movements from the period were reliable and which ones were not. Just FYI the 45xx movement is well known to be one of the vintage Daini Seikosha most prone to wear and most likely to need spare parts. By comparison most of Daini's other movement designs were massively more robust and less likely to need spare parts.

>occam's razor says to trust some reputable watchmaker more than some random faggot on /g/

Not if that watchmaker doesn't know how to buy parts off obscure parts of the internet up to and including domestic Japanese auction sites that you can't even bid on without a proxy service.

>>61444607
Not the retarded anon you are dealing with but what are some good proxy services for Japanese site bidding?

>>61444771
Not him, but buyee looks decent if you know how to read. Almost bought a speed timer a little while ago but the price spiraled out of control.

>>61444607
>Not if that watchmaker doesn't know how to buy parts off obscure parts of the internet up to and including domestic Japanese auction sites that you can't even bid on without a proxy service.
those aren't considered original parts

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>>61444936
Excuse me? NOS Seiko parts in their original packaging aren't original parts now? Okay, that'll be enough of (You).

>>61444771
>>61444880
I also use Buyee. They are a good choice because they don't require you to deposit money in advance to bid on auctions. You only pay if you win.

>>61444607
>Just because the four separate Seiko's from the 1970s I've had serviced may not have been continuously running since the 1970s doesn't mean they didn't run for a large part of that time, either way not one of the five Seikos from the 1970s I've had serviced needed any spare parts and all produced good amplitude and accuracy after service.
considering seiko stopped doing higher-end mechanical watches for ~20 years after the quartz crisis and now your argument switched to spare parts from dubious sources (prolly donor or fake) that seems unlikely.

> By comparison most of Daini's other movement designs were massively more robust and less likely to need spare parts.
can you name any non-obscure Swiss movement, i.e. well documented in English, that can run 40 years w/o spare parts.

>>61445169
of course not, very easy to fake.
if it's not from Seiko directly it's not original.

How do you guys think a pair of steel/silver cathedral hands would look on a SARG001/005?

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>>61445197
>considering seiko stopped doing higher-end mechanical watches for ~20 years after the quartz crisis and now your argument switched to spare parts from dubious sources (prolly donor or fake) that seems unlikely.

Yes, that's right, I'm definitely lying that I've had five different Seiko's from the 1970s serviced without any of them needing spare parts.

There's also definitely a booming trade in fake NOS Seiko parts for movements from the 1970s.

Here have a picture of one of these impossible Seikos, it's the only kind of reply (You)'ll be getting anymore from me.

>>61445359
why do you like seiko so much?

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Name the watches that the following Starfleet officers would wear:

James To Kirk

Jean-Luc Picard

Benjamin Sisko

Kathryn Janeway

Jonathan Archer

Lt Cmdr Data

Admiral Spock

Worf, son of Might

Chief Petty Officer Miles O'Brien

Gul Dukat

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>>61445498

wow, fucking typos everywhere. Fuck you Android.

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>>61445393
I quite like the grammar of design aesthetic and in the 1970s Daini Seikosha was up there with Omega and Rolex as one of the best production watchmakers in the world.

The vintage market has massively underpriced a large number of vintage Daini Seikosha models from the 1970s compared to models by their in-period contemporaries so they are often one of the best values you can get on the vintage watch market.

As far as modern Seiko goes, they often offer extremely good value for money in their sub $1,000 offerings, especially in terms of dial/case/hands and bracelet finishing, and Grand Seiko is one of the absolute best production watchmakers in existence, though sadly often hugely under appreciated by people who don't understand how insanely good the quality of manufacturing and finishing is.

I mean, for fucks sakes Grand Seiko literally bought an entire goddamn MEMS machine to make movement parts for ~5,000 watches a year. It's utterly absurd the amount of capital investments and labour they throw at such a small volume of watches per year.

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>>61438568
Is there a better bottom-dollar watch for poorfags than the Casio F-91W?

>>61445770
Too expensive.

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>>61445592

Fair enough but you have to understand they are not just overlooked. I know a lot about them. I have watched many factory tour videos and documentaries on grand seiko. I have handled them in person. The cases are finished perfectly as are their movements . Their high beat movements are stunning. I just don't want the watches they come in at all. I am not even remotely drawn to their designs. For some reason Seiko's don't excite me like other brands. They are also generally too large. They don't sell a high beat no date dress watch only a springdrive one and all their "dress" watches are bulky and 40+mm. I do really like the lord marvel's though and was thinking about purchasing one.

>>61445770
that watch is cheaper than a package of strawberries. congratulations you are too poor.

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>>61445851
I assume your comment is in jest, but I actually have an F-91W on loan to an EMT student who needed a watch for class but didn't have money for one. He also doesn't have a proper pocket knife etc., so I've been trying to construct an EDC list for poorfags.

>>61445894
I own 4 of them, three of them are going to get torn apart and modded.

>>61445498
I only recall seeing any Trek character wearing a watch a couple times, not including the wrist communicators in the first film.

Kirk has watch in TWoK, but we don't really get to any of it aside from the black plastic band.

Crusher can be seen wearing a watch in one episode, but that might just be the actress forgetting to take it off.

Scotty is wearing something on his wrist in the latest JJverse movie, but never really got a good look at it.

>>61445871
>I just don't want the watches they come in at all. I am not even remotely drawn to their designs.

Nothing wrong with that, and I would never begrudge anyone who didn't like the styling of a particular brand. It's when people start to talk nonsense about the manufacturing and finishing quality of watch brands they dislike for aesthetic reasons that I get annoyed.

>Lord Marvel
They never offered a factory blue dial variant. That picture is a franken with a repainted dial. In general any eBay watch with that kind of stock background and a non-Japanese South East Asian country of origin is a repainted dial frankenwatch that should be avoided at all costs.

In general the Lord Marvel 5740C is a great choice for a vintage Seiko, it's one of the few cases where Suwa Seikosha made a reliable movement, and because they were made for so long they aren't too expensive to buy. Just be aware the 5740C doesn't hack, in case that's a deal breaker to you.

>>61445871
Fucking repainted dials man. I wish one of the colored lord marvels could come up for auction with an original dial. How am I supposed to know it was even originally blue, and they didn't just paint over some other version.

>>61445592
>the 1970s Daini Seikosha was up there with Omega and Rolex as one of the best production watchmakers in the world
bullocks.
Omega was doing quartz watches in the 1970s and was far away from their past fame
Grand Seiko was never supposed to be a tool watch.
so no one came near Rolex triple crown of accuracy, reliability and durability.

>>61445971
Sauce on the factory blue variant part?
I read that in the 3rd generation of models they produced more alternate dials such as red or blue. However, I have not been able to track down any promotional or otherwise official material on the matter.

Nineball where you at? Want to hear more about your habring

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>>61446064
>Omega was doing quartz watches in the 1970s and was far away from their past fame

You should probably stop talking about things you don't know anything about. Omega produced models using the 56x/75x calibers all the way until 1978 and was producing 1045 powered Speedmasters until 1979 (not counting later special editions).

The 56x/75x family Omega produced in the 1970s is one of the four high water mark series production automatic movements of the 1970s along with the Rolex 303x, the ETA 2892-A2, and the Seiko 52xx.

>Grand Seiko was never supposed to be a tool watch.

Where did anyone suggest that they were supposed to be a tool watch?

>so no one came near Rolex triple crown of accuracy, reliability and durability.

Seiko offered models rated to +/- 2 seconds a day accuracy in the 1970s and literally ended the Swiss chronometer trials by taking the top six places awarded to mechanical movements at the last Swiss chronometer trial, as well as being one of only two watchmakers to EVER submit regular series production watches to the Neuchâtel Observatory for certification for Astronomical Observatory Chronometers (along with Girard Perregaux) and had then actually sold those certified watches to the public.

I will happily put a 1970s Grand Seiko Astronomical Observatory Chronometer up against any pre-quartz Swiss production mechanical in terms of accuracy, and the enormous number of surviving and working pre-quartz King Seikos and Daini produced Grand Seikos speaks for itself in terms of durability and reliability.

Anyone unwilling to treat Daini Seikosha as at least an equal competitor to the Omega of the 1965-1975 period is doing nothing more than parading around their ignorance of horological history.

A-are movados memes? I saw one at a shop and it looked nice imo

>>61446263
>Grand Seiko Astronomical Observatory Chronometer

They look like absolute and total shit but its so undeniably cool that i quite badly want one.

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>>61446344
my friend said "I'd rather suck dick than wear a Movado" .. the vintage ones are pretty cool and cheap though.

>>61446088
I just double checked and as far back as I could search on Yahoo! Japan Auction's completed listings I could not find a single 5740C with a colored dial, and I don't recall ever seeing one with a colored dial from any of the sources I consider reputable (Japanese eBay sellers, Antique Watch Bar).

I can't give you absolute proof, but so far as I know all colored dial 5740Cs are repainted.

>>61446423
Its probably repainted but it does look really good. Was the original dial sunburst or plain white?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Excellent-SEIKO-LORD-MARVEL-36000BPH-Manual-Winding-Blue-Dial-5740-8000/302384965777?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D44757%26meid%3Dd6daafe60318452cac3a3a0ad0373311%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D370882659518

>>61446491
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Excellent-SEIKO-LORD-MARVEL-36000BPH-Manual-Winding-Blue-Dial-5740-8000/302384965777?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D44757%26meid%3Dd6daafe60318452cac3a3a0ad0373311%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D370882659518

it even says the dial was repainted in the listing

>>61446491
>>61446506
Like I said, all Lord Marvel 5740C's have white/silver dials with some having a linen texture to them.

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>>61446263
I like some of the funky 70s Omegas like mine but you can't tell me Omega didn't come out with a bunch of trash in the 70s too, they were really trying anything to get out of the deep shit they were in. After all the great dress watches of the 60s, most of the 70s Constellations were absolutely fucking disgusting.

>>61445971
D'you happen to know the lift angle of the 5740C? I've tried looking through lift angle lists of various movements but that specific one seems to always be left out.

>>61446627

I wasn't commenting on the aesthetics of some of the watches they produced in the 1970s. They produced one of the greatest series produced automatic movements of all time well into the 1970s so I tend to consider them through the whole 1965-1975 period. It's not as if their quality had declined by 1975, even if you don't like the aesthetics of some of the models.

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>>61446670
Yeah but the 560s and I think also the 750s are 60s movements too, they're good because they just continued using movements from their golden era.

>>61446709
Sure, but the movement family still clearly falls into the 1960s-1970s last hurrah of high-end series production watchmaking prior to the quartz revolution, yes?

My only point was that Seiko was able to compete with Omega in this period on a comparable footing.

>>61444284
pls respond

>>61446810
Idk. It might as well be a Casio Edifice of a Seiko solar shitter as far as I know. I don't put it past Breitling to make a gaudy chrono but that's doesn't seem their style.

>>61446810
a shitty one

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>>61446263
>Daini Seikosha

Please stop. Even when you say something correct it makes it sound like it's coming from pic related.

>>61446628
Whelp, it seems no one knows what it is for sure. Best guess based on what I read is somewhere between 52 and 54.5 degrees.

That's pretty odd that no one seems to know it for sure.

>>61447098
Take it up with Seiko themelves, they are the ones who named the two divisions they split the company into, not me.

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>>61447124
Just say "Seiko" like a normal person who isn't a fag. All I can hear is "OOHHHH DAINI SEIKOSHA! FORDED OVER THOUSAND TIMES JUST RIKE MY ANIME CARTOONS" coming from the mouth of a twiggy genetic failure who's moved to Japan to become an English teacher.

I don't even hate Seiko (I just find them painfully fucking boring and uninspired) but this weird obsession with the company here goes beyond anything normal, even amongst watch enthusiasts.

>>61447239
Seiko is literally the Nissan of the watch world. OH GTR SOO GOOD GTR SO AMAZING SOO FAST SOOO CHEAP. Guess what we all want Ferrari's and Porsche's.

>>61447124
Yea, strange that many other old seiko movements have their lift angles listed but not the 5740C.

>>61447239
It's to distinguish between daini and suwa m8. They under the same company technically, but still rival parts.

>>61447098
Aaaaaackkkssshooally... *Teleports behind you*

精工舎Seikōsha means "house of exquisite craftsmanship" it's from the long tradition of Japanese master craftsmanship just like my katana which has been folded over one thousand times. I hope you know that Seiko BTFO the Swiss at the chronometer competitions. Have you seen my grammar of design Grand Seiko it's a work of art with beautiful case finishing you Swatch cucks wouldn't understand you may think it's a crusty 40 year old piece of shit pried off a salaryman's wrist after he worked himself to death but you don't appreciate craftsmanship like I do.

Go back to your Swatch ETA cuckmega cuckaxial semenmaster lmao enjoy slurping mountain jew cock kid... Nothing personnel *tips*

>>61447334
>They were under
Fix'd

>>61447334
>It's to distinguish between daini and suwa m8.

No one cares.

Do you correct people with "AXCTUHLLY IT'S A TRILBY!!" when someone comments on your fedora?

>>61447405
Except when people are specifically talking about daini or suwa movements from the 60s/70s. It doesn't matter for modern movemensts since daini 'won' essentially and you don't have suwa movements anymore.

>>61447372


>>61443796

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NEW BOX

>>61447488
>Getting a 12 box
You're making a huge mistake anon don't do it you'll fill it with shitters before you know it. Trust me, I know. I'm trying to sell stuff off and I bought a box of 6 instead.

Pay off 2k in student loans, or buy a new watch?

>>61447560
Pay off the loans first nigga.

>>61447558
But

It was on sale.

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>>61447560
>tfw don't need a loan to study at uni
But seriously, pay your loans first bud, watch can wait latter, what are you going to buy with only 2k anyway?

>>61447405
>>61447239
Saying that you shouldn't specify that difference is like saying KitKat and Purina Cat Chow are the same thing since they're both Nestle products.


Back in the 60s and 70s the two companies were run by different people, in different factories, making different products. End of story. You need to specify when talking about that time frame.

>>61447621
judging from these threads a seiko

>>61444284
I have this watch. I'll show you it if you tell me what it's from.

>>61447972

Youtube

>>61447982
he wants the source to see more of the watch to id it you dense mother fucker.

>>61447999
i'm right tho

>>61447982
>>61447999
I have the watch. I just want to know if someone famous wears it. Sauce me video and I'll go get the watch!

>>61447982
Ok I'll help you since you helped, it's a black dialed chronograph with some yellow accents.

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>>61438568
Opinions?

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>>61444284
>>61447999
>>61448043
Ok, I still want the source on that video, but here it is.

It's atomic (syncs up daily), eco drive, sapphire display, 200m water resistance, and has a titanium case and band. The band has solid links, and solid end links. It's one of my favorite watches, and extra handy to have around to use to set my mechanicals to when I pick them up to wear them. Also perpetual calendar.

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>>61448109

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>>61448134
And chronograph and alarm. I forgot those two features.

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>>61448109

>>61448109
Almost bought this for my girlfriend. How many mm? 38?

>>61448109
>>61448134
head in hands

>>61447488
> when the box is worth more than its content.

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>>61447488
If i ever buy a watch box i would buy a wood one.

>tfw you sell a couple shitters to finance a less shitty shitter

If I keep this up, which I won't, I'd probably end up with a few decent watches by the end of it. We'll see.

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>>61447488
I bought a box just like that one with good amazon reviews expecting it to be decent, but it's fucking cardboard covered in the cheesiest fake leather ever and the plexiglass stuff sucks too. I'm guessing yours is equally bad? I'm pretty glad I found this wood one, but now I have an urge to try to make a little carpentry project out of it and make my own super slick box.

Hi guys. I am a poorfag but I want an automatic watch. Would the Seiko 5 be acceptable?

So are the maratac nato / zulu watch bands any good? Anybody own one? I mostly care about them being comfortable.

>>61449138
yes

>>61449138
maybe

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>>61448901
I've gotten 2 "leather" ones from Amazon. The first was similar to your experience. Really shitty plexiglass and abysmal fake croc leather. I got this one later, and it is way better. The (fake? either that or lowest-grade) leather is actually somewhat soft. It has a metal part to hold it open, as opposed to the fabric in my previous one and in >>61447488.
Mine is built for 20, but will never hold that many. The dividers are removable so I can keep straps and whatnot in the bottom.

>>61449243
Post contents of box

>>61449138
no

>>61449274
Maybe next time:
I have an actual camera
There is decent lighting
Collections are being posted

>>61449336
Then suggest something please.

>>61449355
Not him, but Orient also makes decent cheap mechanicals. Vostok and Swatch make decent cheap memes.

>>61440806
>the Walt Odet exp1 article from 15 years ago
You realize that partly in response to this criticism rolex tidied their shit up fucking ages ago?
Rolex is not known for bad finish, they're known for plain finishing, no filigree or other ultimately useless affections for a hidden movement. I think their cellini have sapphire backs, but no one buys them or cares.

>>61448753

You are financing a watch?

>>61449518
To finance: to obtain of funds or capital for (object)
I'm using the money from selling a few watches to buy another. You might think of it as trading or bartering, but using money as a middle step.

>>61449401
Orient does not sound remotely respectable (Esp. when you live in the UK).

>>61449355
Just get these if you want to be presentable
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CARNIVAL-Watches-Men-Business-Luxury-Sport-Automatic-Date-Mechanical-Steel-Watch-Luminous-Mens-Tourbillon-Top-Brand/32784956717.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Genuine-Swiss-BINGER-Brand-Men-Self-wind-waterproof-leather-strap-automatic-mechanical-male-black-dial-fashion/32656290913.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/new-blue-dial-43mm-PARNIS-Butterfly-buckle-Automatic-Self-Wind-mechanical-watches-power-reserve-men/32795597032.html

Chronographs if you are into that:
http://www.alpha-watch.com/details.php?myid=1143

>>61449355
Tisell

>>61449610
The Carnival and Alpha are the only passable watches you posted. The alpha is probably out of the price range, and both are homages, and I like homages, but neither is respectable.

>>61449698
The Alpha looks nice, and I can put some extra money towards it if you guys say that its worth it.

>>61449831
The alpha is a sketchy speedmaster ripoff. Just imagine someone saying "hey man, cool Omega" and you replying, "actually, it's an Alpha, but thanks."
However, it has a pretty great movement, for the price that is. Only people into watches would judge you for it, and I bet normies would love it.

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>>61445770
Bumping this question.

I'm trying to compile an EDC list for poorfags (doesn't have a job or a phone, trying to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, may or may not have $7 for the bus depending on the week kind of poorfag). The idea is to have a list of bottom-dollar tools that are actually worth buying, that won't break or require replacement anytime soon and will make it easier for someone to function day-to-day at the bottom of society as they try to work their way up. My first draft is an Opinel No.8, a Casio F-91W, and a free pen and paper from a bank or hotel lobby.

>>61449831
It is pretty much de facto the Entry-level Chrono, cheaper than Seagull

>>61449954
I am the only one in a 50km radius who knows and have ever worn an Omega. So that would not be an issue. Also I buy a watch to please myself, not others. Thanks a lot for the info anon.

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>>61438568
Here's a thread you lot might be interested in:
>>>/diy/1210936

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Strongly considering getting a Seagull 1963. Any reason not to? Aside from the lack of water resistance, that is.

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>>61448134
The sub dials are in different places dumbass.

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>>61450478

>lack of water resistance

>>61450599
D-Did it survive?

>>61450599
Press F to pay your respects.

>>61450633

Hell yeah it survived. It's the most accurate watch I own coming within 1 second per day.

>>61450633
its splash proof,it is fine.

>all the Seiko hate
Not acceptable.

>>61450791

What a dog fucker.

>>61450769
Chronology and finishing senpai,weebs are no allowed.

>>61450791
Daily reminder that this is what normies think is cool

>>61450478
It's a pretty specific style that doesn't match everything but other than that, it's amazing for the price

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>>61438568
Who are/were relevant American watchmakers? RGM, pre-1962 Hamilton, anyone else?

>>61452063
Pre-2007 Bulova.

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>>61438568
Who does the best guilloché (engine-turning) in the industry? Are there automated modern equivalents of rose engines and straight-line engines, perhaps some sort of CNC engraver?

https://vimeo.com/33538356

>>61452296
One of the god tier independents. Dufour, Voutilainen, RW Smith, etc.

>>61452063
Elgin, waltham, Illinois watch co.

any decent radio controlled non digital watches?

>>61452782
wut the fug is that

>>61452820
radio controlled? where the time is synced with radio stations - sometimes they're called atomic watches

>>61452838
>sometimes they're called atomic watches
oh i know those

>>61448562
You're not very good at math are you

>>61448901
Yes mine is equally bad but it was very cheap and will work for now.

What's the cheapest/lowest tier watch that you don't consider a shitter anymore?

>>61453594
>>61453594

>>61453233
I would typically consider an sw200 based watch a complete shitter but the marathon medium sar with that movement can be purchased for 650 dollars. The cool factor and build quality of that watch as well as marathons regulation of the movement make it a non shitter shitter. So even though it should technically be a shitter its really not and its worth the price. I can't think of a cheaper non shitter watch.

>>61453233
Anything vintage even Seikos and Casios.

>>61447239
Appropriate image, you spastic mong.

>>61439458
Just get a Seiko SARB or Seiko King Penis. Fakes r fake you fake.