/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

i decided to buy the realforce topre rgb

have i made a bad decision?

>>61349895
Why do people keep trying to make other layouts when the 1800 already exists and is perfect in every way?

>>61349895
Is the Ducky one a solid keyboard? I am looking at it to replace my shine 2.

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>>61349986
Nope. You made a great choice.

>>61350014
Perfection for you is the torment of the other.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tastatur-Cherry-G80-18xx-USB-Qualitativ-hochwertige-Deutsche-Tastatur-Grau-/122555226517?hash=item1c88dc5995:g:CzsAAOSwRgJXgd0G
What switches could it have?
Does anyone know if these models have at least 6KRO?

>>61349986
A tad overpriced, but you're not gonna get RGB Topre switches with MX stems anywhere else. If you want the authentic Topre sound, it's gonna sound higher pitched, and the switches feel lighter than 45g (that's what people say, I have no idea other than they're smoother).

I've been wanting to buy one myself, but have been hesitant because all the autists say they don't like it.

>>61350041
Yea, just make sure it comes with PBT keys. Great board.

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>>61350014
I just want a board in 96 format. If anyone were to make one easily available like Ducky or Leopold, they'd be millionares since the market is absolutely barren.

>>61350197
I'm typing on a Type Heaven right now and it's alright. I prefer them over MX Browns in any case.

>>61350262
Isn't that the board that doesn't have "real" Topre switches? I'm starting to think the Topre community is severely autistic.

>>61350274
Topre autist are one of the worst fanboys existent.
They don't ever think that the "differences" between a real topre and a clone could be product of placebo.

>>61350290
the differences between a real topre and rubber dome are the product of placebo

>>61349895
Funny you chose that picture, I just bought a Dolch PAC 64. Hyped af.

>>61350321
I'm sure that there's a difference between a capacitive rubber dome and a rubber over membrane over.
But that difference isn't too much.

>>61350274
it has real topre switches

I was fine with a membrane KB before but now I have to do a lot of typing and I can't stand missing keystrokes thanks to mushy keys. So I bought a WASD V2 104-Key Doubleshot PBT.

Insult me.

>>61350540
Ducky One would've been cheaper for about the same quality.

>>61350136
If you're really worried, Leeku in Korea makes aftermarket 1800 PCBs that are 6KRO and fully programmable.

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I thought this keyboard would break a month into owning it and plant chink botnet onto my computer?

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>>61350540
If you got it with MOD switches and GMK keycaps, then it would've been good.

The keyboard itself is decent enough, but the keycaps are complete trash. You didn't totally fuck up at least. How much you buy it for?

>>61350644
Cherry MX Clear for 165.00 American seashells. Their doubleshot PBTs are considered bad too?

>>61350635
Why do people always posts fucking guns in these threads. You idiots must be Americans.

>>61350635
You spent extra money to buy a Mk25, but you didn't spend a little bit more for a better quality keyboard, why.

That being said, Chink shit is actually pretty good if it comes with Gateron or Cherry. The Tada68 is pure quality and that's straight from China.

>>61350705
I want someone to post a pile of guns with a keyboard buried inside.

>>61350620
Source?
Thanks.

>>61350722
The fuck is a MK25? Also this keyboard is cheap, and I tend to change keyboard when the keycaps gets worn or shiny keyboard makers charge so fucking much for new keycaps.

>>61350752
just get some real damn keycaps the pbt ones last damn near forever

>>61350658
If you bought the keyboard they offer with Originative keycaps (complete black), you're fine, but if it's their keycaps, you're fucked.

WASD owns its own factory, and for whatever reason, they don't give a shit about quality. It probably has something to do with allowing custom printing that causes them to wear so easily.

>>61350705

>Implying your yuropoor governments let you own pistols

>>61350731

horo threads on /g/ used to have guys with a fuckton of guns posed around their SaW LNs

>>61350752
You spent extra money for the super special Navy Seal pistol, and you don't even know that it's a Mk25? Are you retarded, or did you just paint the anchor on?

>>61350778
Our gun laws are pretty good compared to other countries. We just feel that they are too uncivilized for a culture such as ours. Case in point, this Amerifat worshiping his when this is supposed to be a keyboard thread.

>>61350807
>doesn't have a firearm at arms reach at all times

Do you even gun?

>>61350658
they have an absolutely disgusting coating but you can remove it

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3ik3jz/guide_how_to_remove_taihaos_nano_antibiosis

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>>61350796
>pistol used by the Navy Seal
>implying it's not the one right next to the Sig

>>61350116
how are the keycaps

>>61350840
So, you spend money on marked up pistols without even knowing what they are, and you buy completely new keyboards just because their cheap ABS keycaps wear instead of just buying $40 EnjoyPBT Cherry profile keycaps that never wear.

As I suspected, you're a retard.

>>61350912
I don't even own any guns...

I find it pathetic that you amerifats worship a hunk of steel. Most nations now a days almost no one owns guns, only the criminals and police.

>>61349895
Please advise me on a MK:

>Budget - whatever is needed
>Location - UK
>Preferred switch type - Cherry MX Blue
>Layout - QWERTY, ideally ergo
>Form factor - 60%
>Backlight - Yes, but not RGB shit, white?, sidelit
>Previous/current keyboards - Logitech multidevice membrane junk and a cherry MX blue numpad I use for accounting rapidly

What do I buy chaps? I was looking at the erdogan or whatever it's called. A little put off by the autist aesthetic.

>>61350931
We get it, you're just another girlie tranny on /g/.

Jeez, you don't have to shove it in everyone's face all the time.

>>61350745
He doesn't have a storefront or anything, easiest way is to message him on GH apparently

https://geekwhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18584

>>61350931
>most nations
You mean all those first world European countries with big hunting and/or military enthusiast communities don't exist?

>>61350941

>Budget - whatever is needed
>Location - UK
That sounds about right.

Check out the Tada68 and Poker II. If you don't like the Tada and want a true 60%, you can spend a lot more money to make your own with an aluminum case, white LEDs, programming, etc.

>>61350941
Since it seems to be coming out, I might as well suggest the WhiteFox too. Here's some links:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lekashman/whitefox-mechanical-keyboard
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68/2230037_32807055607.html
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=458

>>61350903
Like any high quality ABS caps. I imagine I'll get at least a few years of use with them.

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What do you think of the Ducky 711?

>>61350041
The Ducky One is the definition of "solid". It's not flashy or trendy and the layout is exactly what you expect, but it works well and comes with reasonable price and good quality.

>>61350987

No, we hold imaginary guns, fake shooting sounds with our mouths, and animals pretend to drop dead because we asked them nicely beforehand

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>>61351223

This is my endgame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK2cnxXauls

>>61346868
I'm honestly surprised nobody has yet reverse-engineered the flash applet or at least translated the chinese bits.

My greatest fear regarding my tada is that the dns-less server probably sitting in some chink's basement will die and I won't be able to reprogram it anymore.

>>61351223
>11 different types of switches
but why

>>61350941
It you want something ergonomic then it's obviously not going to look just like a normal keyboard, except being magically more comfortable.

Ergodox is a good choice. There's a bunch of similar ones though. Atreus is a 40% one, though it's recommended you instead add a couple of thumb keys while building it because the current design is slightly retarded for no reason. Keyboardio is the ergodox for hipsters. There's certainly more I'm forgetting. Oh yeah, check out the Kinesis Advantage.

>>61351467
Well our [spoiler]Reddit[/spoiler] neighbor translated most of them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/52totq/tada68_layout_editor_translation/
And supposedly you can replace the firmware and add lots of other stuffs into it
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/tada68
Feel free to give that a try and report back here.

>>61351506
Holy shit these are so helpful. Will try some various things out

>mfw the only place where i can find pbt led hangul keycaps are on the ducky channel yellow v2
JUST

How does the magicforce 68 feel to you guys? Is there any quality issues I should be worried about before pulling the trigger or is it a good buy all around?

>>61351650
>falling for the led meme

>>61351502
Thanks bro.

>>61351223
It seems pointless... I have a feeling it would be annoying the constant change in switch types depending on what sort of typing one is doing.

>>61351709
Said this a number of threads ago: While comparing that to a TADA68, I found the MF's spacebar to be extremely wobbly and unstable.
Then again, the TADA was double the price.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/side-lit-abs-keycap-set

Anybody have experience with these or knows how they are?

>>61351584
All given to me by that subreddit. Visit that place every now and then. Aside from their weird obsession with artisan keycap, they're pretty cool.

>>61352074
That's what I've been finding. Reddit as a community is pure cancer, but due to the sheer amount of people when it comes to resources or doing things, it's actually pretty useful.

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indofag here
fellow indofag, where to buy cheap keycaps? need R4 (custom print if possible)

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If anyone was thinking of buying this or a different Outemu keyboard:

Got my 'VicTop/Easterntimes/whateverthefuck I-500' today (pic not mine). It's been a long time since I've used Cherry MX blues (I use buckling springs) but these Outemu switches are way clickyer than I remember Cherry MX blues being. It's surprisingly well put together for something so cheap, it makes my Unicomp feel like it is made of bin lids.

I need to use it more, but I think I might prefer these switches to buckling springs. They don't sound anywhere near as good to type on, but they have a more tactile, almost sticky/rubbery release. The only indication you've released a buckling spring key is the ping sound it makes. These don't make any noise on release sadly, but they feel a bit better in that regard.

I hate the uterus logo though, and the USB port connector thing looks pretty gay. Pretty good tenkeyless in my opinion for the price, ty to the anon who recommended me it.

>>61352187
china, more specifically maxkey

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>le special snowflake colored key caps
>le braided cable sleeves
Why does it bother me so much?

>>61352039
sadly the tada doesn't come with the switch type I want. thanks for the info though, I think I can settle with a wobbly spacebar

>>61352310
isn't importing things makes it more expensive?

>>61352209

>TKL meme

Nice f keys

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Grabbed a barely used Cherry G80-3000 the other day for £40. Very pleased with it, far better than the membrane keyboard I was using previously anyway

im gonna buy the vortex race 3 iso when it comes out and nothing can stop me!

>>61352548
>Nice f keys
t-thanks

Means I can operate those all important F keys without using a function button.

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Can someone post greentext story about student in class using alienware laptop with mechanical keyboard pic?
Please?

>>61352585
What switches did you get lad?

>>61352857
MX Blues
Far from quiet, but I love how they sound and feel

>>61353057
>I love how they sound and feel
Wait until you try better tactile switches like Alps or buckling spring.

Are the Unicomp keyboards worth the money? Is there a way to get one without the ugly Unicomp logo above the LEDs?

>>61353128
I considered buckling spring but since my previous keyboard broke and I wasn't looking to spend too much money I went for this one. Guaranteed I'll have a buckling spring board as well within the next year or two, keeping an eye out for Model M's. Might get a Unicomp one but I'd really like an IBM one if I can find one

>>61353057
Did you buy to the german seller on eBay?

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G810. I got this a year or so ago not knowing anything about mechanical keyboards. Can I swap the keys?

>>61353311
Quite sure it was an English seller, I'll check
Why do you ask?

>>61353252
>Are the Unicomp keyboards worth the money
imo they are great to type on but the build quality is kind of garbage for how much you are paying. It never really bothered me though, the key caps are of good quality (I think PBT) and the board itself doesn't flex at all, the newer ones don't have the problem they used to have in the past where the number pad would flex. It's just the outer shell is made of a shitty creaky plastic, it's not the end of the world though, the rest of it is solid.

If you like pissing off people around you then buckling springs are a great option.

>Is there a way to get one without the ugly Unicomp logo above the LEDs?
Yeah, on the Unicomp site go to like the accessories section or whatever, they sell stickers to replace that light cluster. You just peel off the one thats on there and put that one on. They do a one without the logo, and also one that's just totally blank.

>>61353367
Theres a similar key oard quite cheap in germany right now. is a cherry one like that one of you.

>>61349895
>http://keybr.com/
that site does not work

i bought a DIY kit with gateron yellows, did i fuged up?

>>61354549
Works on my machine :^)

>>61353330
>Can I swap the keys?
No. Unless someone made custom keycaps for RomerGee.

just bought a masterkeys pro s with cherry mx brown, white led for 69 euros. Did I do good?

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Just got a new keyboard. I came from one with an indented caps lock key, to one that doesn't, like, it's the same height the full length of the key.

I'm finding it hard to type on at the minute because every time my little finger tries to find the A key, I think I'm not all the way to the left because I can't feel the gap where the half sized caps lock should be.

Will I get used to this or have I just thrown $250 down the drain?

>>61355149

You can get used to anything. But you'll know in a couple weeks if you actually like it or not.

How do I make Outemu's louder? I love typing on them but they aren't loud enough to wake my neighbours up.

>>61355233
You want beam springs

>>61355233
Get a custom controller and a buzzer/solenoid.

>>61354867
Do you like your cherry mx browns? Because I love my Masterkeys pro with browns switches.

>>61354549
enable javascript

>>61355149
#firstworldproblems

>>61351747
what negative effects does using leds have?

where can i find a dell at101w or just a keyboard with black alps switches?

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Post keyboards pls

>>61356347
mostly in thrift stores since they are so common. you can also find them on ebay

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Got in on the WhiteFox kickstarter. I already have one, but I want to try the new switches, and I fell hard for the NightFox scheme

>>61356347
I got mine for free, some place was throwing them away and I swiped one. Like anon said they are also peanuts on ebay.

Make sure you like black alps though, they are kind of meh tier.

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>buy tenkeyless thinking I never use the keypad
>turns out I did but just never noticed
>keep randomly slamming my hand into the side of my keyboard because expect a numberpad to be there

>>61356631
meh

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/kbdfans-dye-subbed-keycap-set-152keys-cherry-profile-for-usb-wried-mechanical-keyboard-1-75shift-puller/2230037_32811843018.html

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/npkc-dye-sub-keycaps-wasd-key-arrow-key

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/npkc-dye-sub-keycaps-esc-enter-spacebar

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/cherry-profile-pbt-cmyk-13keys

Any good brands still using Topre switches?
Other than Topre obviously

>>61356686
I don't believe you.

>>61356292
Additional cost with no benefits

>>61356686
you'll get used to it you stupid monkey

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>>61356693
I know it's meme. I do it anyway.

>>61356367

>F keys and guns

Someone is compensating

>>61356686
You'll get used to it eventually.

>>61356701

get a HHKB, easily the best topre board

So I just got a drevo 84 as a starter into the mechanical keyboard meme, how'd I do? I went with the browns and they feel good.

>>61356970
>no f keys

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>>61356984
>browns

>>61357017
you fuck off, browns are the true master race.

>>61357004
It has F keys tho

>>61357034
Heh, that's a pretty cute opinion kid.

>>61357060
post your favorite

>>61357017
Hey, I like them. You do you pal, I'll do me.

>>61357076
buckling springs or go home

>>61356970
I'll have a look
ty

>>61357105
>BS
and here I thought you were gonna pick a good switch

>>61357120
>pisses off everyone around you
>not the best
Really made me think.

Post your favourite.

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what do you guys think of my new keyboard

>>61357130
>implying there is anyone around you in your mom's basement

>>61357017
I like my browns and you can't do anything but meme.

>>61357157
Delete this.

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>>61357155
Doesn't look very new to me, unless it came with that shine on the spacebar by stock.

Doesn't look like a mech either for that matter, but I may be mistaken in that regard.

>>61357130
I have a fujitsu keyboard with magnetic reed switches and those are my favorite by far

>>61357180
Stop liking what I don't like.

>>61357004

fuck f keys i'm sick of them the last few threads

dedicated f keys are too thicc

>>61357196
Where are your F keys?

>>61357155

All I can see is a big row of F keys

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>>61357218
on the fn layer I guess, not that I use them very often

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>>61357210
pussy, you need to go thiccer

>>61357250
>feet
>on your desk
Disgusting.

>>61357265
>more upset by feet than f keys

are u a meme

>>61357210
Why do people care about the vertical height of a keyboard? The only time I could think it would be matter is if you were in a cubicle at a library or at work or something, but if you're using a mechanical keyboard in a setting like that you're an immense faggot.

>>61357210
Dedicated F keys are fine, unlike muh tenkeyless ergonomic.

>>61357304
What's wrong with a tenkeyless?

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>>61357265
What's the matter? To distracted by my thicc keyboards to reply to the right post. If 24 F keys isn't enough for ya, how about 36?

>>61357336
How come your mom lets you have all those F keys?

>>61357311
Some are accountant.

>>61350233
Can you link this keyboard in particular? I can't find it. Thanks anon.

>>61357357
Yeah, obviously if you spend a lot of time working with numbers it makes no sense to go TKL, but it's not shit for everyone.

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>>61357036
>it's an "it has f keys, they're just on another layer :))))" retard

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>>61357358
Its a render, but other keyboards in that layout include: RS96, ZZ96, AMJ96, YMD96, Wellfare96, Lightsaver, Kira96, etc.

>>61357408
Oh ok. Thank you.

>>61357404
And? They still function like F keys, they're just not dedicated.

>>61357297
99.999999% (scientifically proven fact) of people don't use them enough that they need them outside of a function layer

>>61357385
TKL gets rid of numpad but keeps the dumb as fuck f keys then has a big as fuck space between the useful part of the keyboard and the arrow/pointless keys so it's a meme form factor

>>61357425
>he has to press a function key to access his f keys because he is that retarded he needed to save half an inch on the top of his keyboard

Pretty embarrassing. I bet you jump on every opportunity you get to talk to people about why your keyboard is smaller than theirs.

>>61357431
It's not a meme form factor. If you have a fuckhuge mousepad and not such a big desk, moving the section of the keyboard you actually type on a few inches to the right makes a hell of a difference. It's annoying as fuck having to reach to the left like a total shitter.

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>>61357385
I'm not accountant but I find the numpad is more comfy than number row.

Well, I should have brought the pic related.

If I want to get rid of F keys I'll just go 40%

Which isn't always bad, but I wouldn't make it my primary keyboard

>>61357452
But with your logic moving it an extra few inches again to a 60% makes a hell of a difference.

So at least we agree that 60% is the best form factor

>>61357485
65% master race you subhuman

>>61357485
But I need muh arrow keys and delete and print screen and stuff.

>>61357499
only if your brain has a hard time with arrow keys being on a layer, it's not your fault

but 65% is a good form factor, from HHKB to TADA68 and everything inbetween are 10/10

>>61350233
Plum looks so much better here than in reality

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>>61357532
You can have arrows keys and even a numpad with a 60% keyboard

>>61357561
I need muh f keys tho :/

>>61357571
That keyboard has them right next to the alphas :^)

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>>61357571

>F KEYS

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>>61357551
There is literally no reason to use 60% when 40% exists.

If you want everything to be in close reach, and the keyboard to be really compact, 40% is objectively superior. If you don't like using layers so much, 65% or even 75% is objectively superior. 60% is the worst of both worlds.

>>61352209
I got it on sale for like 30€.
It's my first mech keyboard. I've felt really impressed with how solid it feels. The keycaps aren't great quality, in that the lettering starts to fade after use.
8 months in and the WASD, ctrl and shift keys are starting to fade.

But overall it's been a pleasurable entry into the mechanical keyboard world. Once i upgrade i'll go with something less noisy, and maybe with a numpad, or i'll buy a separate one.

>>61357761
Disagree

40% is pretty horrible for productivity, being able to touch type a small string of numbers without breaking typing at full speed is important as most people still use a number fairly often when typing. A fn layer is great for fn keys, arrows and the like when you are already breaking full speed touch typing.

>>61349986
Topre is a weird choice.

On the one hand the Realforce is the BEST feeling keyboard there is. The sound is also the most satisfying. Because it's electrostatic it's presumably extremely durable and you can always replace the individual rubber domes.

On the other hand the typing experience is hit and miss. It's difficult to know where the actuation point is, sometimes you'll have letters swapped all over.

Needs a lot of practice to compensate for it and you'll lose about 5wpm. But fuck does it feel and sound good.

>>61357911

Have to agree with this, definitely worth it for the feels though

https://twitter.com/ThatGuyTagg/status/885576995047866369
Aren't you going to help the brown twink, /mkg/?

>Budget -
>Location - USA
>Preferred switch type - Cherry MX Red/white
>Layout - ANSI
>Form factor - 100%, preferably with Macro keys
>Backlight - Yes
>Previous/current keyboards - Early 200s dell mechanical.

I'm new to the mechanical keyboard scene, so beginner suggestions are welcome.

>>61358144
Whoops, forgot budget.
Under $150.

>>61358135
Literally who.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1140102&p_id=13787&seq=1&format=2

Anyone know what kind of "Red Switches" are in this keyboard? I know Monoprice's Enthusiast line has Outemus so it can't be that.

>>61358287
>click on the third pic
>see switch
>gateron
how did you miss this?

>>61358135
introduce him to the tada68 meme

>>61356686

You're just noticing because of those events happening. The same dat I got my TKL I needed a numpad for a couple tasks and thought I made a mistake. Turns out I only use it once or twice a week. You know what's giving me an harder time? Moving to the US International layout and the single row Enter, I'm hitting the backslash more times than I'd like.
You'll get used to it.

>>61358144
>>61358175
Ducky One

>>61356686
My old TKL has a numpad on another layer :^)

>>61358287
Reds are shit btw.

can i get a good tkl. i like gateron a lot but cherry is fine too.

>>61357155
it looks bad. it sucks.

>>61358287
>Questions & Answers
>first question
>BEST ANSWER: Hello, thank you for your question. The switches in this keyboards are Gateron Red switches, I hope this helps, and of course if you have any more questions feel free to contact us!

>>61349895
Are there any good small mechanical mathematical keypads with all ur sigmas and that ?

>>61349986
IT'S NOT FAIR, I JUST WANT A TKL RF RGB.

>>61356367
>>61350635
People with small dicks in this thread.

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Keycaps finally arrived, now I have my stormtrooper hhkb :D Love it!

>>61358287
You shouldn't get it because of the ISO layout btw.

>>61358865
James Donkey or Magicforce if you want Gaterons.

>>61359836
is there a reason you are so intently concerned with the size of other mens penises?

Fight me you fucking faggots.

http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=fvtrch3rd

>>61360082
Did you not look at the posts that I linked to? Are you retarded or something?

>>61359956
why would they even sell an iso enter keyboard in burgerstan holy shit

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>>61360134
waiting for your answer about thinking about strangers cocks

>>61349895
i think i need to build a arm suitcase pc now

Are Razor boards any good?

>>61360306
they're actually ok but they're kinda overpriced, get a chinkboard and thick pbt keycaps

>>61357596
>implying normies even know what function keys are
>not using hotkeys for your desktop/programs/browser

why are you even on /g/?

>>61360306
No, they come with their own Razer switches that are rebranded Greetech switches which are complete crap. I also think that they come with a non-standard bottom row. Cheap ABS keycaps too.

Avoid Razer, Corsair, & Logitech. Get Ducky, Leopold, Varmilo, Filco, or any of the Chinese boards with Gaterons.

Just make sure they have Cherry or Gateron switches.

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>>61349895

>>61359954

Looks great anon, I'm still thinking about grabbing a set of black blanks for spares, where did you order them from?

>>61355149
i mean just get a new cap lock cap?

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>No cheap chink clone of gmk cyan with iso keys

>>61361078
no the stem is placed differently and he should just get used to it

>>61361103
XDA have molds for stepped caps lock keys with centered stems.

>>61357119
not him, but I can confrim HHKB is perfect.

the layout is awful, and no you wont miss the "missing keys" being able to sue the arrow keys without leaving home row is awesome.

Then the topre switches are just perfect.

worth the investment. (i've tried all switched under the sun through my DIY keyboard making friends.

>>61356701
Leopold FC660C is my favorite, more standard and solid than hhkb.

>Budget
$60-$80
>Location (continent at least)
NA
>Preferred switch type
Right now I'm using Kaihl Blue, but I'd like something a bit lighter I guess
>Layout
QWERTY
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Kinda want a rgb setup would be nice, as It'd go well with my Diamondback Chroma
>Previous/current keyboards
TT Esports Poseidon Z

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZ3CMKW?th=1
Is this a good board? The price is right, and it has the right key switches I'd like to try.

>>61361179

I think the layout is great, caps lock switched to control and backspace down one row just feels so right

>>61361839
yup, so ergonomical.

I already liked the unix control and was skeptical about the lower backspace, but low and behold I remapped my laptop to match it after a few days of use.

>>61361179
>overpriced rubber domes

>>61362171
you wouldn't say that if you tried them.

>>61361691
>G. Skill

It's like the Strafe, but worse. Everything is made of plastic so it's gonna feel and sound cheap as hell. Plastic backplate, cheap ABS keycaps, non-removable cable, non-programmable, REEEED LEDs. I personally think it looks ugly as hell.

It does have standard key sizes and Cherry switches though, so you could change keycaps to make it half-way decent. And I'm not sure you can find a full sized board with Cherry or Gateron switches for that price (maybe I'm wrong and someone can find a Plum108 for cheaper).

For $65, it's a decent entry board if you've never tried a mech before.

>>61362377
>Plastic backplate
for real bruh?

>>61362228
ABX test or nothing.

>>61362377
>>61362412
>The top panel and chassis are plastic, but the backplate is SPCC steel.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/g.skill-ripjaws-km570-mechanical-gaming-keyboard,review-33878.html

>>61350635
do you like cocks? people into guns have some unresolved phallic issues.

Leopold 750r or 980m?

is TKL more of a meme than 98key?

>>61360702
I kept that image too lmao.

>>61362736
>unresolved
Says you, I love firing big guns and sucking big cocks.

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finished building this meme

>>61362796
>backlight LEDs
>but no translucent keycaps
peak meme my friend

>>61362377
I've already ordered it. I don't see where I else I'd find a Cherry MX Brown keyboard for a similar price. I'm with you on the keycaps though. I might swap those out.

>>61362902
>backlight LEDs
The keyboard uses underglow that shines through the sides. The switches have transparent housings which makes it seem like it has backlighting because of the underglow bleed.

>>61362796
But how do you live without the super key?????

>>61362959
layers

>>61362684
Oh cool, I didn't know that. Then it's actually kinda decent. I remember people would recommend G. Skill for budget stuff in the past.

>>61362748
I personally like the 980m just because I think it's the better layout, but going TKL would in theory give you better ergonomics in relation to your mouse.

Just ask yourself if you really use a numpad that much, and if you can learn touch typing the number keys.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2419

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2424

Backlit or nonbacklit lads
Also does anyone know how the Ducky PBT doubleshot legends look like regarding leds?
I've heard the seamless ABS ones look like shit with black spots everywhere

>Budget:
$250 maximum, but I'd prefer to spend around $150
>Location:
Europe, but I'm willing to import if need be
>Preferred switch types:
Cherry blue preferred, but any low or medium force tactile switch is fine.
>Layout
USA ANSI
>Form factor
65% or 75% preferred, but can also be tenkeyless. Must have arrow keys, I don't care if it has the F keys row or not.
>Backlight
welcome but not necessary. (RGB or white, no gamer green/red glow plz)
>Previous/current keyboards
non-mechanical at the moment.
>Other
Must have a detachable cable.
USB passthrough port would be a VERY big plus.

>>61363437
they look like shit too

>>61363463
YMD75 (has cherry mx switch options)
KBD75
TADA68

>>61363463
Tada68, Drevo Excalibur, KBD75

Good 87-key keycaps in the $20 - $35 range?

>>61363693
Here's the best for $40.
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycaps-117keys?variant=36740706893

You could get cheaper caps for $35, but they won't feel as good as EnjoyPBT, and it's just a $5 difference.

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>>61362902
Whats the point when LEDs are already bright enough?

>>61363693
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Blank-side-printed-Cherry-Profile-Thick-PBT-Keycap-ANSI-ISO-layout-For-Cherry-MX-Switches/32807123075.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/cherry-profile-keycaps-side-printed-red-esc-white-and-red-for-usb-wried-machanical-gaming-keyboard/32801848964.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DOLCH-thick-pbt-keycaps-cherry-profile-side-printed-keycaps-gh60-poker-87-104keycaps-108keys/2230037_32791274444.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/32740037614.html

So, guy who bought the G-Skill keyboard here. I think I would like to have a more custom look to this board. What keycaps would you pair with it?

>>61364324
You can't, G-Skill use a bottom row even more uncommon than the "Gamer standard" Corsair and shit.

>>61364349
Standard Cherry MX compatible keycaps won't work?

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>>61364349

wat?

>>61364467
Oh, it's one of their old models, before they decided all 1.5u mods on the left and a 5.5u spacebar was a good idea. Never mind then.

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>>61363468
Good to know

>>61364324
Since you bought cheap, you probably want cheap. Check what the other anons have been posting in this thread for cheap stuff. Here's two expensive options that no one recommended yet:

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/enjoypbt-keycaps-dye-subbed-keycap-set-117keys?variant=35672052557

And I might as well show you this because it'll be gone forever soon:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set

>>61364507
are these the ducky pbt led keycaps? they are horrid lol

anyone familiar with ABKO hacker and their keycaps? I ordered the ABS ones.

>>61364914
I think those are the ABS caps, I can't find any pictures of the Ducky doubleshot PBT caps which is making me mad. Guess I'll go with the nonbacklit version just to be safe

>>61364914
I think those are the ABS ones.

>>61358144

Was in similar position as you recently, had never used anything except a shitty $6 wired keyboard and mouse combo. Ended up buying a Ducky Shine 6, I'm happy with the decision. It has solid RGB, feels great, and doesn't looks like a tryhard gamur keyboard. The custom spacebar adds a nice touch as well.

>>61364997
the nonbacklit version has the same keycaps so it's still horrible. the translucent grey legends won't be nearly as visible as normal keycaps

Is anything better than filco?

>>61365343
any midrange keyboard will be about on par with or better than a chink filco for a lower price

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>>61364914
>>61364997

here's my DS6, hope that helps

Gotta use lithium ep-2 to lube my mx brown switches, am I going to fuck up something up or can I proceed like I'm planning?

>>61365371
Thank you anon

>>61363463
Matias Mini Quiet Pro if you can find it. Technically doesn't have USB passthrough, more like a 3-port hub.

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Need recommendation for a no-frills budget keyboard, I'll be using it mainly for programming and some gaming. (pic related, it's the Ducky One TKL)

>Budget
$40-$70, lower is better
>Location (continent at least)
SE-Asia
>Preferred switch type
Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL, with arrows preferably
>Backlight
minimum or none
>Previous/current keyboards
macbook

Some brands that are readily available here: Magicforce, Logitech, Corsair, Ducky One (also Topre but the price is easily 3 times Ducky One).
Thanks in advance.

>>61365679
Drevo Excalibur is like $66 and has everything you want.

>>61365395
Anyone?

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Just got a WASD v2 with MX clears. Holy shit these are so much better than browns

>>61366186
nice fidget spinner

also how do clears compare to reds? and what makes clears better than browns? i have browns myself but was wondering what new switch i should get

>>61366211
Browns are often called "reds with dirt in them" and after using clears I'd have to agree. The tactile bump in the clears is so much more pronounced and the weight of the keys is so much better. I wish I'd gotten them sooner. Compared to reds clears would be much heavier and have a pronounced tactile bump compared to the linear reds

Are the Plum topre knockoffs any good? Especially when I'm familiar with topre?

>>61366299
If you fooled yourself with the placebo effect into thinking Topre is good, I'm sure you can do it again with the Plum.

>>61352209
I also purchased an easterntimes tech with outemu blue switches, first mechanical keyboard too. It felt pretty great typing on it for a while, but after trying some green at a friend's keyboard I decided to replace mine with gateron greens. After opening the keyboard I was quite surprised at the high quality of the PCB and the case, not what I was expecting from some chinese keyboard.

>>61366299
They are but only after a 55g dome mod

just spent 225 dollars on a realforce rgb topre switch

>>61367241
Enjoy your expensive Japanese rubberdomes folded over 1000 times.

>>61366299
You'll have to change them. 35g Topre is so incredibly smooth that it basically feels like a linear.

>>61366299
I have a rc930 with 55g ebay domes. It's pretty nice.

>>61367770
what about 45g topre

>>61353330
Just bought this keyboard and am excited to use it. I own some model ms and a das ultimate s with mx browns. I need a change of pace and really like logitech mice, how do you like this keyboard anon?

>live in UK
>can't get autism tier keyboards here
>buy from US
>shit has been stuck on 'arrived at USPS facility' for three days

REE

>>61366974
You mean you bought gateron greens and put them in an Easterntimes? Wouldn't it have been cheaper/easier to just buy a keyboard with greens?

Agree on the quality of it though, it's too bad about the keycaps not being up the the standard of the rest of the board.

>>61367886
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A_0FPRfpcthe2szdHG-kympwm_uROKWtIzRZKuPNuZI/edit#gid=982549211

>>61367853
i have it. for what its worth the keyboard and switches arent that bad. im actually starting to kind of prefer them over the mx browns. the only that sucks is the keycaps, its very cheap ABS and it shines bright. and you cant replace the keycaps either.

other than that, the keyboard is fine. i especially like the volume scroll wheel, very convenient.

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>just spent $200 on a tenkeyless
>didn't know the 75% formfactor even existed
>literally would have been perfect for me
>thinking about killing myself

>>61367984
What board?

>>61367918
Nice man thanks for the info. I like switching things up from time to time just to experience something new. I really want to try mx reds some day just to see how I like them.

>>61368011
Matias Click KBP V80, costing so much because I live abroad.

Looking into it, I'm not sure you can even get a 75% with Matias Clicks unless you make it yourself.

thoughts on the Ducky One TKL?

I'm joining the mechanical race today

WHat do I need to know?

>>61368094
Good board but get the one with PBT keycaps otherwise you get something like this.
>>61364507

>>61368101
check the links in the op

>>61368101
Here's what you look at:
>Ducky
>Varmilo
>Filco
>Leopold

Tada68, Drevo, and Plum are good Chinese boards too.

>>61367810
45g topre clones feel less tactile than 45g topre. Get 55g clones which feel like 45g topre or 65g clones for 55g feeling topre

>>61368101
Make sure you get something with F keys or women will laugh at you.

Don't buy something with linear switches or we will laugh at you.

Don't buy anything RGB or everyone will laugh at you.

>>61357452
>I have a full second keyboard with shift modifier because pressing 2 buttons to get a single character is retarded

jesus fuck mate do you even use your keyboard

>>61368452
What?

>>61368238
Only fat autists need f keys

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>consistently faster on typeracer on my ThinkPad™ membrane keyboard than on either my cherry blues or buckling springs

is cherry mx red nothing more than a meme?

>>61369743
Reds are fucking trash. So are browns

>>61369743
Go use them, any PC shop will stock mechanical keyboards these days.

They are kind of just as good as a 'good' membrane keyboard in my opinion.

I have to find a new keyboard instead of using MX Reds which don't have any feedback. Consiodering browns but they seemed strange and would use them for long probably.

Any cheap boards with 2-5 same switches?

has anyone ever lubed their switches before? because it got super old? mostly talking about blue switches here

is there such thing as a set of parts that contains everything but switches and keycaps that you can make into a 104 key keyboard?

Can you still comfortably play dota2 on blue/brown gats?

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Just got my keyboard. Holy shit it feels so much better to type on this.

>tfw mechanical keyboards aren't a meme

It's way more satisfying and my fingers just glide around the keyboard effortlessly. The only thing is I'll have to get used to the noise it makes. It's way louder than I expected.

I'm bought the Redragon Vara btw I'm really impressed by how good the build quality is

>>61370296
Nothing stopping you playing games on any keyboard so long as it has adequate rollover.

>>61370357

I've heard people say that tactile would be worse for double tapping. I'm using MX blacks now and those are fine, but the keyboard itself is kinda worn out.

>>61350931
>implying guns are only just hunks of steel
by that logic keyboards are only just "hunks" of metal and plastic

what do you guys think about lk optical switches?

>>61370412
I've heard people say as much too but I've never found it an issue at all on any keyboard I've used.

>>61370350
>Redragon Vara
Nice keyboard. I used to want that one too until I try the demo at local store and I found that cherry blue is much better (more expensive too).

>>61370412
Cherry brown is the best for double tapping thou, because the bump is very light.

>Budget
120$ maximum
>Location (continent at least)
Europe
>Preferred switch type
Gateron Black or Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
I don't care as long as it has an Fn row and arrows.
>Backlight
Not necessary.
>Previous/current keyboards
CM Quickfire TK with Cherry Brown

>>61368041
Lol they do sell one. They have the 303 and the 403 both ar 75% and the 403 is split

>>61370227
Yes its called a kit and you can get them from chyna

>>61367897
It would've been cheaper but I got a good use out of the blue switches before going for greens (about a year). Also by that you mean that yhe shape of the caps lock key is different? I still find it weird that it doesn't have stabilizers

>>61371141
Ah, I see the one you mean, the one made by Matias themselves. I didn't bother to look at their layout at all because they look fucking awful and are made of piano plastic which I hate, I just assumed it was a TKL.

Meh, it has bezels which probably makes it barely any thinner than a TKL in the real world, I also couldn't handle it missing a dedicated print screen button. It was mainly the width I was wanting a TKL for as I have limited desk space and a huge mousepad.

>>61371191
>Also by that you mean that yhe shape of the caps lock key is different?
No I just mean that the keycaps are brittle/weak feeling and shiny ABS plastic rather than PBT. It isn't that big of a deal I suppose as you could change them were you so inclined.

Other than the caps though, the thing has really great build quality for something that is near enough so cheap it's disposable.

>>61371327
>>61371327
>>61371327

NEW

>>61371277
You can rebind one of the keys to printscreen. The only reason why it has a large top bezel is for the built in usb hub, the other bezels are as big as the kbp v80 you bought. The glossy plastic does suck, but the build quality is one of the best for a plastic case. Luckily you can remove the gloss. The 75% layout sucks tho and wouldn't recommend it.