/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

>>61240904
first for 2760p

Saves from death on previoud thread:

Is x270 or x1 carbon better for school?
I know the specs in the 270 are better, but is it outdated in any way that will slow it back down? I like how the Carbon is advertised as very rugged, is this true??

NOTE: I'm buying new, I'm looking for a good machine that will last a long time. These two machines are about the same price (~1300 with EPP)

X270
-------
i7-7500
16Gb
512Gb ssd

X1
-------
I5-7200
8Gb
256Gb ssd

>>61240904

that's probably her boyfriend's. girls don't know anything about computers. they are nothing but sex objects

>>61240941
Again, what do you want it for?

Both are pretty new but use intel u cpus that are low voltage, so performance hasn't really increased since sandy and ivy bridge. igpus will be much better tho.

There's barely any difference in real performance between mobile i5s and i7s cpus, both are dual cores with hyper threading.

Since you are going to chose between a x270 and x1 carbon, I guess you are looking for something portable and with good battery life. You should go to notebookcheck and check the reviews on each model and make up your mind.

Personally I'd get something with a good, big resolution ips display, good battery life, a ssd as big as possible, nvme if possible, and 16gb of ram.

i5 vs i7 I don't care. there's not much difference.

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>find an old picture of my thinkpad family i took at 3am for the lols
>sad because all but 3 of these machines are gone
should i feel sad over a loss of thinkpads?

>>61241125
rip u.u

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I just got my first thinkpad. X201. Anything I should do/know? Looking at getting usb3 express card and a 9cell.

>>61241125
sad but rejoice because they lived a hell of a life...in the age of anon

>>61241152
>Looking at getting usb3 express card
don't, it never works properly

>>61240904
>that shit Tiger theme
2/10 you tried.
>>61241125
You better have not left the G40 club anon.

>>61241209
Nah, i still have the glawk fowty, the 14" T42 and the 380ED

The R52 was later painted white as the snowpad, but was scrapped for parts when i needed a new screen for my T42, i also stole the cooler so i could cool the ATI chip, the fan is also quieter.
The 15" T42 i got for like 10$ on ebay but it was a misleading post and it came with pretty much no guts except for the motherboard and screen connectors, not even a pcmcia rack in there, couldnt be assed to rebuild it.
The R30 had the HDD die and when i tried to install Windows 2k on a new hard drive, i discovered the entire time ive had the bios has been locked, so i couldnt install a new OS.
The X41t had a BGA failure after i tried to play Minecraft 1.11 on it, trying to turn it back on made a nice little puff of magic smoke.
The Thinkcenter was used as my PC case for a long time before i replaced it with a new case, i kept it for a while but it really just ate up space.

I feel bad, but the more important machines live on.
380ED because its almost as old as i am, T42 because its a fucking trooper and was my first thinkpad, and g40 because "lul thicc"

Are any of the Thinkpads with stylus input recommended here? I love the pen on my current Ultrabook, but fucking around with a cheap thinkpad running loonix may be fun

>>61241263
My x61t was fun and very usable on xubuntu and 7

>>61241263
Pick up an x200 tablet, theyre pretty fun little machines and theyre really cheap.

>>61241199
>>61241152

Don't listen to this anon he doesn't know what he's talking about. It works about 50% of the time.

Bls has anyone ever gotten wifi going on Windows 2000, or the driver necessary for ethernet over USB?

>>61240904
>not including the discord

>>61240941
X270

>>61240976
Like 70% she's actually a pornstar.

>>61241835
on Windows 2000 on their T43*

>>61241601
>It works about 50% of the time.
wow, literally fucking nothing

>>61241835
>>not including the discord
fuck off, discord is for /v/ shitters, if you want to discuss, there's a thread for it, that's why we have a general.

Yeah, let's include r/thinkpad in the op next time...

>>61241835
>>not including the discord
get the fuck outta here nigger

>>61241844
Why would you use windows 2k on an XP era machine?
But yeah, you just need 2k compatible drivers, the onboard card may not have them, but a lot of pcmcia cards have them

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I like mine.

>>61240904


>>61241561
It should be that one, as far as I know they have been out of stock for quite a while. Did it say "compatible"? if yes, and not made by AUO, you got fucked.

>>61242148
>that bleed

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Just bought a yoga 14 with an i5 8gb of ram and 256gb ssd
It's got Winblows 10 on it, but I debloated it.
The touch screen stuff if gimmicky but I want to try note taking in class with it.

What other shit should I do with it?

>>61242161
Really not that bad off-camera.

>>61242176
>What other shit should I do with it?


mmm, use it?

I mean like wtf

>>61242176
Throw it away and kill yourself for not having bought a decent computer.

>>61242199
Scooped it up for 500 bucks, planning on upgrading ssd and ram soon too, I wouldn't say it's bad.

>>61242215
it's ok anon, a bit too much imo, which gen?

>>61240904
>Ariel Rebel with a Thinkpad
My live is complete.

>>61242286
i5-6200U
Thinking about going to 16gb and 512ssd, should get me through college the next 3 years no issues.

>>61242435
You will be fine

>>61242189
Un, I hope so.

Got my x200 two days ago. It's really nice, shame I didn't buy it earlier.
At first I was afraid it would not be fit for mundane tasks like browsing the interwebs but it actually as good as a desktop computer. Core 2 duo is still a work horse. The only thing that left me disappointed is it's screen, but it was to be expected.

>>61243504
>Got my x200 two days ago. It's really nice, shame I didn't buy it earlier.
>At first I was afraid it would not be fit for mundane tasks like browsing the interwebs but it actually as good as a desktop computer. Core 2 duo is still a work horse. The only thing that left me disappointed is it's screen, but it was to be expected.
Libreboot that shit up

>>61243504
>Core 2 duo is still a work horse
It fucking is. My X301 runs 10 bit 1080pee anime like a champ. Was suprised.

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can I join the circlejerk?

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>>61244148

I have a W520 currently and plan on buying a $2500 macbook in a few days. Though I'm still not 100% set.

>>61242331
that's veronica belmont, you stupid fuck

>>61244157

Isn't that 960 pretty bottlenecked with the pci-e 1x slot?

>>61244274
nope, benchmark scores are same as standard desktop 960 as long as external screen is connected to eGPU

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>>61244148
>>61244157
Ayyyyyy, 2570p anon is back with a smug grin on his trying to raid a thinkpad safe space.

>>61240941
X1 has 2x thunderbolt3, X270 just has USB-C and HDMI
X270 can get a bigger battery and it can be swapped out, X270 can also be docked

pretty sure they advertise all their ThinkPads as being "rugged"

>>61244323
*face

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>>61244148
Ayo, hol up, Cun I join da curcle jurk?

>>61244359
>11 yo
>configuring a raspi laptop
>not impressive

>>61244375
It's literally designed to be a kid's toy , m8...that said it's still very impressive that he'll be into Linux from the get go. Poor kid could've bought a t60 or even t200 for the price of the kit though.

I could get a T450s with an i7 for 400, shipping included. How much could I sell that go for? I don't know if I'll keep it since for what I use a laptop for, a comfy 4870p would do just fine and even play some gimmick light games like LoL or minecraft.

Best protection case for carrying X2*0 series?

How upgradable is a T500?

E550 master race reporting in. i7, 8gb ram, Windows 7 pro. I want to put an ssd in it, any other suggestions ?

i am searching for a thinkpad or similar laptop

Budget: max 300-400€ doesent has to be new one a used one is fine too
Size: doesent matter
Performance: i need to run Autodesk Inventor on it
Other requirements: Woud be realy nice if it is a convertible but i dont realy need one

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>>61241002
I don't know why you fags think ULV processors are still worse than whatever they put in an X230, they're significantly better now, plus since it's a low voltage chip you can get 12 hours easily instead of the 3 hours you get from your old laptop.

Bought a t420 from Amazon and when I try booting up a different hard drive than the one it came with, it just gives me a black screen with a little cylinder and lock symbol at the top left corner and asks for a password. I've already disabled all types of password lock in the bios so I don't really know why the hdd lock is still active. Will pulling the cmos do anything? thx

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>>61240976
Good point anon!

>>61244359
damn dat mama guud my niggg nice wall poster

>>61240941
the X270 is smaller but not outdated. The main question you want to ask yourself is, do I want to carry a 12.5" machine or a 14" machine around? Another important question is if the 12.5" screen bothers you. Those two machines are really well built.

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>>61244359
so was that shooped?

>>61245475

Same here. I got mine at a pawn shop, what about you?

I was reading that the stock laptop won't recognize SSD's without an update. Which makes me wonder how I'm supposed to boot from it.

I bought an x220 two years ago and the battery died.

It's some knockoff chink battery. N-Now what? The Lenovo ones are expensive

>>61244148
>USFF
cute

I love my comfy x201. I don't think I'll ever replace this POS, I've grown too attached to it.

>>61246074
you know it's just an eGPU case, right?

>>61245793
Ordered on amazon right before my freshman year of college 2 summers ago. if theres a will there's a way...this thread might have the answer....

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-11e-Windows-13-E-and/SSD-on-ThinkPad-E550/td-p/2059910

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>>61240904

>>61246451
who is this semen container?

>>61244359
>that nigger poster
lmao

are nu thinkpads botnet trash?
whats the last good thinkpad that /g/ recommends?

>>61244114
>X301
Jelly, I can't find one for a good price.

>>61244359
>when your sister is a stupid SJW who embarrasses before you're even old enough to notice

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Would I be able to use a old nvidia gt240 as a eGPU /g/?

>>61241125
This looks so pretty.
I literally bought my first thinkpad last year, but I'm edging to buy a new one. I can't stop this feeling of wanting to.

>>61245793
Being this retarded

>>61247641
Probably, but for what purpose? It's probably about as fast as Ivy iGPU.

>>61247708
Just to give a little boost and Memewatch will probably run aright on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaT6UJvggpA

>>61247761
if memewatch will run ""alright"" on GT240, it will run ""alright"" on iGPU
either get a real GPU or play on iGPU, GT240 is not worth the effort

>>61247761
wew lad this game is autistic as fuck

>>61247797
I just have a gt240 from a old build lying around the house and was hoping to give my t430 a little boost. I'm not going to buy a new shitty GPU just for this.

>>61247856
>t430
then you're golden. GT240 would get you probably 5-10% more performance, not worth it imo

>new shitty GPU
you don't have to buy a "new" GPU. Even something like a GTX 460 would be at least twice as fast and it's dirt cheap at this point.

Is this IPS or TN? Thinking about getting it.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5HA5676876&ignorebbr=1

btw thx /tpg/ for convincing me to get a thinkpad i just ordered some ram and ssd, i am about to order the tp itself except i heard TN sucks.

i also have a x220 keyboard and the other stuff so ill be installing that.

Is there something besides HD/SSD that I can stick into the optical drive slot? I want to get rid of it but don't really need more disk space

>>61247982
There are spring-loaded drawers you can get which fit into drive bays. They're actually quite convenient for storing cables, USB drives, etc.

>>61248036
It's a t420

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hey guys,
I know /g/ is NOT my personal tech support team, but I want to know want do you think about this thinkpad.

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430s-23539WU-Notebook/dp/B009UESY2I/ref=sr_1_15?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499162621&sr=1-15&keywords=lenovo+thinkpad&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A2423841011%7C2423840011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011#Ask

>>61247982
you can just get a hard drive caddy and leave it empty or store secret things in there

>>61247933
impossible to tell without the model number or serial number

>>61248189
T430s/T420s have shitty batteries so it is a deal breaker for me

>>61245661
what happens when you just press enter

does it say wrong password or does it go through?

>>61240904
Hello /g/ents.

Finally bit the bullet and got myself an X220. Absolutely hyped. However, I have several questions regarding the laptop:

I would like to underclock it. Since it only runs WPS and XPDF when I work, I don't need 3.1 GHz. Is there a way to save battery even more?

Secondly, I would like to install a faster SSD (currently an ADATA 500 series 240GB) and I'm intrigued by the promise of miniPCIe-mounted SSDs. Is there a way to check that my model is compatible? Or has the X220 always had this function?

Thanks, guys.

>>61248288
It sees it as a wrong password. It gives you 3 tries and then shuts off

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>>61245607
But almost all of the Ivy Bridge laptops are socketed, and most of the recommended laptops in the OP accept the QM processors. My E6430 has an i7-3720QM with a dGPU and it only cost me $230.

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>>61248369
My bench on a fresh install of W10.

>>61248369
according to this retarded """""benchmark""""" you're posting ULV trash is almost as fast as quad core i7-3720qm. You know this is wrong, right?
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-7600U+%40+2.80GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3720QM+%40+2.60GHz
i7-3720qm is 45% faster.

Just got the T420 that I won an auction on for $128+13 shipping. I7 2.7 ghz 4 gb ram 500 gb hdd win7 pro. Came with ac adapter and dock. Seems to be in decent condition except for 2 tiny scratches on the trackpad. Checked keyboard and trackpad and seems to all work. Checked some ports and they seem to work.

Is there anything else I should do? This is my first time doing any of this.

>>61247761
>wanting to play Reddit Dota in the first place
Looks like cancer scales when you merge TF2+LoL Even the map just like tf_dustbowl.

>>61246276
Even better. SFF and USFF optiplexes arent really that good because you cant upgrade them much.

>>61248781
Yeah, old optiplexes were bad in that matter.
But there are nice alternatives, such as HP 8200 USFF that has socketed i7-2600s in it, MXM slot for any GPU that fits there, upgradeable two 2,5" drives and standard so-dimm RAM.

>>61248828
Damn, Those have a fuckton of usb ports. I'd consider getting one for HTPC/steam link usage, but my 755 sff with a quadro 400 shoved into it works just fine.

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>>61248398
>according to this retarded """""benchmark"""""
Why all the butthurt?

From what I can tell, PassMark uses total performance, whereas UserBenchmark uses weighted scores for single and multi-core benches. It would be disingenuous to only rely on one benchmark's results, anyway, so I'd expect real-world results to be somewhere in the middle.

>>61240904
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

whats a business laptop with at most a 12.5" screen, a resolution of at least 1440x900, has newer than a Core2, and is relatively easy to service?

obviously a modified X220 or X230 but I would like something I do not have to modify

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Just got this t430 yesterday and I'm loving it, I have virtualbox installed and getting ready to test different OS' to see which distro I like the best. Any recommendations of ones that just werk?

>inb4 install Gentoo

>>61249309
qubes

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>>61240904
hello i would like to get a T420 refurbished, am i going to get shit on

>>61249309
lubuntu
mint-xfce

>>61249374
I'll check it out, my coworker recommended Arch, is that any good?

>>61249271
2017 MacBook

>>61240904
is that a T4x and what OSX version is it running?

>>61241835
>Like 70% she's actually a pornstar.
Name?

>>61240976
I gave one of my ThinkPads to my gf. She likes it.

>>61249505
0/5

>want to buy and upgade old thinkpad
>paranoid about bios passwords
what do

>>61241256
Hey, you might be informed on this - are any parts, screens for example, swappable between T4x and T6x?

>>61249500
sure if your time is worthless and you want to manually install every package you need to have a functional system

>>61249570
make sure it doesn't have a password first? not hard and it's not that common

>>61241209
>>that shit Tiger theme
>2/10 you tried.
That's osx86

>>61249309
Lubuntu is the easiest and most lightweight, if you are the kind of guy who likes to build his own home then research into Devuan netinstall (as in barebones installation) and experiment with window managers. There is nothing else you need unless you are a hardcore user and know about differences between package managers.

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Have an old X220, want to bring new life to it with an ssd. What do you guys suggest? I haven't bought or followed storage for years, is Samsung still the way to go?

>>61249675
Oh. It just looked like a theme to me because finder isnt on the dock

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>>61244227
im gonna get a 15" macbook pro 2012 in a few days, i just want something to replace my shit lenovo yoga 900, i havent decided yet either though

>>61248369
Hey Anon, I have a chance to buy an e6430 for $100(Same specs), but I was hoping to find a cheap Precision instead. Should I just go with the e6430?

>>61249696
Crucial, it's cheaper and for normal use you'll never notice the difference.

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Ok guys, what's the best ThinkPad I can get that has no management engine? I already have an R60 but I'm looking for something that isn't so thick and heavy, and that has better battery life. I already have a T400 with Libreboot installed but the display and battery life are terrible, so I use it as a desktop to shitpost and play games. Also what OS will maximize my battery life? I'm not going to use Windows and hackintoshing OS X 10.6 onto my T400 just ran like shit and gave me the worst battery life, also no programs were available. Any good GNU or BSD distros that are ultra power efficient?

>>61249696
Crucial. I got a 275GB SSD for $85.

>tfw no p51

is a refurb t420 a good buy for 150 ?
is refurb bad

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Best laptop option for under 250? It's for my parents (no gaymin or anything).

>>61240904
>Entire general dedicated to old laptops

How the fuck are you supposed to play games on an old laptop? This general is dumb as fuck.

>>61250362
Thinkpads are a miracle of the universe anon, there's basically no other laptop today that is so super friendly and actually allows you to upgrade and repair it. They're literally everything Apple isn't and should be celebrated.

>>61250362
>sickass egpu rigs and overclocked quadcore cpu swaps
>in-home streaming from capable desktop
>sufficient knowledge and experience to push the limits on old hardware
>good taste to not play new poorly-optimized console ports
take your pick, anon

Who here's /2poor4tp/

My refurbished t420 arrives in 2 days, got it for under $200.
Bought a t420s recently as well, for under $100, but it was filthy and I get a sore throat when I used it, even after cleaning.

>>61250673
>but it was filthy and I get a sore throat when I used it, even after cleaning.
Anon you're supposed to use your hands with laptops.

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doing all of the windows updates after installing win7 on my t520
>kms

Not completely related, but it seems bestbuy is taking in any laptop for $75 in store credit, and I've got a t43p that I'm doing fuck-all with.

Should I sell it on ebay or just trade it in?

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I'm noticing most of the Thinkpad on Ebay don't come with a power adapter. What adapters do people use?

>>61250913
The 65 watt or 90 watt one

>>61250913
Cheapest chinese one.

>>61250913
60w official (came with T420)
60w official new case style (came with x61t)
90w officlal (was $12+s/h on eBay)

>>61245607
>a ulv is better after literally 4 iterations
Here's your (you) anon

Why would a thinkpad be preferable to my gaming desktop? Not that I'd ditch one for the other, but what would I theoretically do with a thinkpad that I wouldn't want to do on my rig?

>>61250913
my t470
real 60w that came with the laptop
real 90w that came with the dock

then my X201 has a 3rd party 60w that came with it when I bought it on ebay

>>61251045
comfypost from bed

How the fuck do you people do it? I ordered it because I thought it would be awesome and comfy but trying to use a laptop for more than 10 minutes is just straight misery. Everythig takes so much longer than a desktop unless you're at a desk with a mouse

>>61249570
if you buy from eBay, you should be good. If there's a bios password that they didn't mention just file a claim with eBay and they;ll probably refund you and not even make you give the other one back. Pretty much a buyers world on eBay.

>>61250359
Apple MacBook Air™

>>61240904
Thinkpad x60 latch broke. Is it easy to replace? Where can I buy replacment parts. Also the bit of plastic that seperates the SD card slot and the slot above it. Super glue fixes this for a while but because I use SD cards often it breaks a lot? How to fix? Pls respond.

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>>61251058
that's why you get a dock

>want to buy x220
>don't want any tablet faggotry
what do?

can someone tell me what is wrong or what to improve on this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gTGfBP

>>61249617
>>61249500
Aside from the install which requires some experience and following a guide it doesn't feel much different from any other Linux I've used

>>61251113
Buy an x220

>>61251113
get an x220 non "t" version

>>61251133
wrong thread mate

>>61251158
hard to tell apart on the ebays though

>>61251162
where should i go?

>>61251184
>>61245860
>>61245860
>>61245860

>>61251232
thank you so much

>>61251168
not really, just look at the pictures
the x220t has a far larger bezel at the bottom for the touchscreen controls when compared to the x220
or you could message the seller

>>61251246
I see...

How about this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X220-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-8GB-No-HDD-CC5010-/182645224092?hash=item2a8680f29c:g:C4QAAOSwN2VZVsW8

Is there something glaringly wrong with it? The low price concerns me. Do I just buy an ssd and pop it and I'm good to go?

I-I-I've never done this before...

>>61251344
it says that it has "Moderate Scratches and Blemishes" but from the photos it doesn't look too bad

you will also need a power adaptor, and the battery may be shit

>>61251370
What would be good battery life? The replacement batteries look pretty expensive if they aren't off brand chink shit. Would be interested to hear what kind of times people have with what replacements.

>>61240904
pic is my keyboard. What are the names of the keys circled and how do I bind them?

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>>61251702
damn I'm a retard

>>61251815
going to need a clearer picture
looks like you have a Weebanese keyboard

>>61249900
The E6430 is great due to its Expresscard slot, socketed CPU supporting quad core i7's, double mini PCI slots, and rugged build.

Try to get one with a 900p screen, backlit keyboard, and nVidia dGPU if its in your price range. More info here
>https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/7574-14-dell-latitude-e6430-performance-upgrades-and-system-mods/

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>>61251824
as requested
apologies for the quality, the camera is a $30 dollar-store-phone

>>61244148
>>61244157
pic of monitor setup?

>>61246520
Veronica Belmont

>>61250385
This, this this this so much this.

>>61251815
>>61251863
>>61251863
>>61251815
Those are thr muhenkan(no-conversion) and henkan(conversion) keys respectively used when typing in japanese.

As for how to bind them わかりませんW。

>>61251815
>>61251863
If you're using linux, you could bind them with xbindkeys. If you use "xbindkeys -k" then press the keys, it'll tell you what to use in your config.

Should I get an msata or regular sized SSD for my x220t? Also I'm planning on installing 8GB to 16GB RAM. What's cheap and decent?

>tfw just bought a new Chromebook because looking at all the shit on ebay was agonizing
thinkpads are a meme

>>61248369
Try to follow this conversation
>I'm looking for a laptop to take for college, do I get an X1C or an X270?
>Get an X230, it's faster than whatever ULV processor it's in there
>ULV processors are actually faster now and give you better battery life
>HURR DURR GET THIS 7 POUND MONSTER WITH A 900p SCREEN AT BEST BECAUSE IT'S SOCKETED AND YOU CAN UPGRADE THE PROCESSOR

Does that fullfill OPs request?

>>61252257
This, super easy if you ask to the right person on /fglt/, or just google enough

>>61252315
No you

>>61244148
>>61244157
whos got a recent guide, on what i need to get a egpu setup going?

>>61250971
yeah they also run cooler and they're more efficient which translates to more battery life

>tfw just got scammed by a fake chink battery
today is a bad day

>>61252104
Wait isn't she the girl behind the talking Stealth Armor in Fallout NV?

Can any of the newer X series run OSX well? I'm okay with swapping out the wireless card need be

>>61252670
Open a claim if it was through ebay or paypal.

>>61252670
:(

why do good screens cost so much reeeeeee

>>61252296
whatevers cheaper
whatevers cheapest ram doesn't really have problems.
>>61252839
you can't swap the wireless card on the x230 and above

>>61252326
So much butthurt in this thread.

Ultrabooks are great, but they're significantly more expensive for no more performance than a used business-class laptop. If weight is your main concern and you don't mind paying more, then go ahead.

>>61252229
>>61252257
>>61252327
thanks lads, my google-fu is shit

This keyboard clit is hard as fuck to push and my finger gets too tired too quickly, is it really supposed to be like this?

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Babies first chink pad for my babies first programming class

>>61249432
You can get one for under $200 on ebay, just make sure there is a return policy in case are damages etc.

>>61253523
Hope you're having fun!

>>61253523
What's up with that light

>>61253726
You mean how it's all purple? I bought hue lights recently. If you're talking about the "i" in Thinkpad then yeah I have no fucking clue.

>>61253523
Hot. I hope you uninstall Win10 by the end of the semester

>>61253754
I've debloated it as much as I could, but it's still shit compared to win7, but I really want to try taking notes with the pen and screen and play some osu with it first before I downgrade.

>want to fix up a thinkpad
>need to buy battery
>need to buy adapter
>need to buy new screen
>need to replace ram
>need to buy ssd
Why not just buy a new laptop at this point?

>>61253312
>can't swap the wireless card on the x230 and above

Not that guy, but I can on any tp up to **20, right?

>>61253520
>is it really supposed to be like this?
No. Get the drivers.

>>61254075
yes
>>61253520
No, change your drivers.
And try other trackpoint rubbers, soft rim for example.

is possible to change the fan speed of an t60 ?

>>61254362
Yes but from my experience, I have tried to do it twice and failed. Part of the reason is that most of the tutorials are too old.

>>61253523
what tp is that?
>>61240904
I want a thinkpad with a backlit keyboard but don't trust chinknovo too much. Also a -q processor if possible. I want a smol <15inch laptop money is no object. Mirin the 2570p in thread since I already have an 8460p

>>61254555
20FY0002US

>Win10
>Touchscreen
>2 in 1
I got it for cheap so I don't mind, and I'm enjoying everything about it so far.

But the fucking faggot that had it before me took off the keyboard clit and didn't returns the touch pen for some reason, so that kinda sucks.

>>61254555
>what tp is that?
Not a thinkpad. Probably some shitty yoga fuckfest.
>I want a thinkpad with a backlit keyboard
Go die on a fire.

>>61254598
I mean yeah it's a yoga, but it's also a thinkpad.

>>61254626
What a insult of a "Thinkpad" it is.

>>61254761
>Being insecure about laptops
It's a Thinkpad mate, if he has a touchscreen win10 botnet model what difference does it make? It's still a "Thinkpad" brand model

>>61254815
It's a "generic shitty computer #53 with a trackpoint" and nothing else.

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>>61254815

>>61254864
>>61254877
As I understand this thread if not only about "Thinkpads" but other business laptops (According to OP) and again, that guy has a "Thinkpad" brand laptop, and even if you wouldn't consider it a "Thinkpad" brand laptop there's no denying it's a business grade laptop, so why are you getting so upset, friend?

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>>61254914
See>>61240904
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN P, T, X, and W SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™
There is nothing Thinkpad like under there. What can I get my hands on? How about when this computer is 10 years old, is it still operational?

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>>61246563
>>61245776
>implying you don't want a poster like that for your wall
>>61247761
Just play assaultcube CTF on syria, ow is for kids

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Got a problem with my StinkPad 1920x1080 T510 display. I got what looks like a block of dead pixels in a straight vertical line, thing is I'm not sure if it is actually some dead pixels or something else.

If I put my mouse cursor over it, then move my screen around, I can see that the black dots are 'behind' the display if that makes sense, like they appear to be behind the pixels. I've not really noticed dead pixels looking like that before, is there a chance it's something else?

>>61252409
Barely in the first few iterations. In fact only reason they ran cooler was because they were clocked down M cpus. Literally the same tdp but underclocked to shit.

>>61250971
i5-520m and i3-4010u get the about same score in Cinebench R15. One being 35w and the other 15w.

>>61253925
Windows 10 2015 ltsb.

>>61255271
The other is 25W. 15W is "scenario TDP".

>>61255286
You get point. Modern cpu and especially ULV are shit and makes the whole machine total obsolete trash in a couple of years. Might as well use c2d.

>>61255271
>1st Gen core cpu
Anon please
I'm talking about what people actually use like Sandy and ivy bridge
Also that's 25+10 watts of tdp. Intel stopped adding the igpus in the total tdp after ivy bridge for some weird reason.
Lastly what's your opinion about the i5 3320m btfoing the i5 4200u and the i5 5200u?

Someone explain this meme to me. Why thinkpad?

>>61255316
>Anon please
What? 1st gen core CPU are pretty good (but i7 first gen cpu should be avoided at all cost). It's plenty fast for my work.
>Lastly what's your opinion about the i5 3320m btfoing the i5 4200u and the i5 5200u?
Utterly shit and embarrassing. Well, it's not too big of a loss because laptops with 4th or 5th generation core CPU have shitty (island type) keyboards anyway and generally laptops from that time are shit except Getac (all laptops) and Panasonic's Tougbook lineup.
Those are some good laptops.
>>61255365
Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
----

>>61255365
>durable
>cheap
>best input methods
>you don't need anything more than to do much
Especially the last one
Intel hasn't been doing much in the last few years so there's literally no point in buying the newest meme consumer laptops when you can just buy a used thinkpad for the fraction of the cost with an extended battery and get the same performance with more battery life

>>61254953
>Can replace nearly any part that typically needs replacing (EG. ram hard drive battery and gpu

I fail to see the issue ere, but please go ahead and continue your hissyfit

>>61255417
>can't change CPU
>no EC
>no ultrabay
>shitty proprietary sata connector (literal HP-tier shit)
>unable to quickly swap battery if carrying multiple batteries
>no dock connector (and if there is, it is WiMAX or proprietary connector or shitty usb dock)
>one ram slot

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>>61255417
>gpu
Please explain how you'd replace a gpu.
>inb4 he realizes he can't
Also what if I want to replace the cpu?

>>61255471
he's probably referring to MXM models such as p50/p70 and newer
too bad keknopevovo decided to whitelist this port, so you can use only one approved card. Lmao

>>61255751
They do that there too?
Jeez lenovo
Why don't you fucking whitelist the ram and hard drive too

>>61255805
>and hard drive too
newfags don't remember first x220 BIOS releases where mSATA disks were whitelisted. Only one shitty 32GB Intel one was whitelisted, but only as a cache.

Is there any value to something like the Lenovo Miix 310, or are 2-in-1s a meme?
(I know this isn't the best thread to ask, but I'm mildly interested in 2-in-1s since it would let me combine a convenient ebook reader with a laptop without significant weight penalty.)

>>61255891
Maybe x220T/x230T?

>>61255891
literal garbage

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I wonder what this could be?
A Thinkpad prehaps?

>>61250123
x220 corebooted

>>61257084
t470? anon?

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>>61257105
why yes, it's the T470!

wat do if I have a loose battery on x230? any remedies?

>>61242176
>Just bought a yoga 14 with an i5 8gb of ram and 256gb ssd
>It's got Winblows 10 on it, but I debloated it.
>The touch screen stuff if gimmicky but I want to try note taking in class with it.
>What other shit should I do with it?

Debloating it would be removing the malware that is Windows and

Installing gentoo

>>61257136
What's the tb3 wire connected to?

>>61257978
Akitio Node which I have a 980Ti plugged into.

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How do you deal with overuse smudges/wear-off ?

Found a broken X60s for 25€ (apparently only the fan is broken), a broken X60 for 30€ (broken screen) and a functioning X200 for 70€. Which one should I get? Are there still IPS displays for X60 and X200?

>>61258697
>using the touchpad

>>61258715
I just use it for the scrolling.
I use the mouse mostly, but the scroll wheel died and I'm to lazy to get a new one.

8460p or e6420? Which has better Linux support? Which is less likely to overheat?

>>61258697
The touchpad is usually a sticker so you can just grab a replacement off of ebay, though I've never done it myself because
>using the touchpad

I just got a t460 and plan to install Fedora 25. Anything I should know?

>>61240904
I used to have an R40 with Tiger back in 2006.
Worked perfectly. I really liked the Hackintosh shit back then. Now you can do all with some utility.

>>61258776
>sticker
Do you mean I can get one of those phone protective screens?

>>61258813
I don't see why not, I don't think there's anything special about the proper stickers except for the texture, which in my experience is a bit too rough anyway. Obviously you might still need to cut it to size and be wary of whether adhesive on it is going to be adequate.

>>61258776
>>61258715
>some much hate for the touchpad
objectively speaking the thinkpad have the best trackpad texture.
And it doesn't erode your finger tip with constant use.
I use it for gestures and touch screen emulation.

I ordered an older (intel 4th gen) thinkpad yoga. What DE should I use on a touchscreen?

How well does the touch screen work on the X220/X230 tablets with GNU/Linux?

Budget: $300
Location: USA
Size: 11"
Performance: just need it to be able to play music and browse the internet
Other requirements:good trackpad and durable

>>61259688
I forgot to mention that i also wanted a lot of storage, 1TB would be perfect

>>61258813
No there are literally the same textured stickers as the default trackpad sticker
Phone screen protectors don't work

>>61258948
Why use the trackpad when you can use the best input method the trackpoint™

>>61260117
circular scrolling and gestures.

>>61260168
I don't know man I only need to left click right click middle click and scroll

>>61260200
It depends on what you use, its very useful if you do a lot of drawing like me.

I am intern at a tech company and I was given ThinkPad T450 for work. I never thought a laptop could be so comfty. I am definetly going to buy one once I have enough money.

>>61259688
Thinkpad xx30/xx20
Buy hdd caddy later and add more drives

X200 or X220 for watching video both hooked up to a 1080p monitor and natively? The buyer's guide said the X200 might struggle. All I really want to do with it is browse the web via wifi, use a few programs, and possibly mess around with trannyboot.

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Good evening gentlemen.
I just fell for the meme and bought myself a used T420 - great visual condition, everything works etc.
Is it normal to hear some amount of coil whine coming for the motherboard? It mostly happens when "Device Access" light is blinking (no. 1 in pic related). I'm almost certain it's not from CPU or the hard drive (I replaced it to SSD as soon as I got home).

>>61260663
The X200 will struggle. I love the thing but the X220 is just so much smoother to use and won't have any problems doing that.

>>61260945
To my knowledge it's not capable to remove the Intel ME from the X220. How bad would the X200 perform with 720p/1080p video if I was using Arch installed to an SSD?

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>wanna get a spare laptop to do shenanagins on
Im considering an X220 is it worth it if im just goign to be using it as a writing and possibly drawing item
or am I better off spending more for the touch screen model
>Mfw no idea what im doing

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I have no idea what I am doing, I'm starting my degree this year and I'll be needing a portable device, programming is part of my aspired degree but I've never done it. You guys seem like knowledgable people so please help me out.
Budget: 350 - 400€
Location: Germany
Size: Something I can carry around in my bag!
Performance: Browse the internet, do some basic things in photoshop, maybe play basic games like Touhou or Osu!
Thanks guys.

>>61260778
I get some coil whine when the CPU is at 800mhz idling on the desktop. it is very faint

I had to return a Thinkpad T410 this morning... seller took out the 1440x900 panel and put in a shitty 1280x800 in it's place. The model says it comes with a 1440x900. The seller says oh after further research the model appears to come with both types. I call bullshit! Also the wifi didn't work either... at least it's free return shipping that's nice!

>>61261111
Ye you're probably right..
I'm using an Arch based distro and SSD at least and it struggles..

when it says the hard drive caddy isn't included on used thinkpad postings...does that mean you can't secure a hdd internally or what?

what's the cheapest/least powerful TP i can use to plug it to a tv and watch movies online?

can i find some with a busted screen for cheaper?

thanks

>>61260778
On my x220 I also get lots of coil whine under high IO. :(

>>61262982
in 1080

>>61262947

yes, it won't be snug, just jam some paper in there... ghetto but it works.

>>61262982

get an amazon firestick instead... $40

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is this good?

>one year warranty
>new keyboard
>new SSD

>>61263466

yoga is no good.

Whats the lowest I can go in terms of model if I'm going to use the Thinkpad literally only for wed developement, web browsing and downloading stuff?

>>61263551
I actually want the best possible compromise on a GNU/Linux tablet

>>61263586
for wed development I'd go for some 3rd gen intel and newer, for mon and tue dev you can use it, too, then. For thur to sun dev you need something newer, though

>>61263586

i'd say t400, x200 and w500. anything below that and you're stretching it.

>>61263607
oh you want a tablet? Depending on what you want to do it. I have a x220 tablet, works for me. But you probably want something newer?

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I know is no thinkpad but I wonder if someone knows where to find bios update for a Lenovo 3000 C200

>>61263713
My only issue with the x220 is the screen resolution. But what is actually the downside between the thinkpad yoga (not consumer yoga) and the x220? Isn't the thinkpad yoga even considered the direct successor?

>>61240904
I found a X201 with 4GB of RAM and a 250 HDD for $99. The listing says the battery is in good condition. Worth it?

>>61241263
X200T just got added to the Respects Your Freedom list. I recommend picking one up, along with the recommended replacement wifi card, then putting libreboot on it

>>61242148
I liked mine until I got an X220T and stopped having patience for the awful screen of the T420. Also had some thermal throttling issues, not sure if that was permanent. Seemed fine a few months later.

>>61263681
you're a fucking unfunny retarded moron

Just found out the T420 comes with a fingerprint reader. It actually sounds like a great way to lock my computer but is it safe to use with Windows? Also is the software for it resource intensive?

>>61263779
don't think yogas are a direct successor to the x2xx line.

I realize this will sound entirely retarded but...I want an optical drive. The trouble is barely any laptops can fit one that also have an IPS screen.

I'm considering getting a T440 and replacing the screen. Has anyone done the same? There's so many screen replacements I don't know which to choose...

>>61263780
go for an X220, X201 are starting to show their age

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>>61264092
why is an external one not an option?

>>61251855
So E6430 is preferred over E6420? Amazon reviews of the 6430 make it sound like they did some bad cost cutting with that model while I've always heard good things about the 6420

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>>61264150
Needs to be portable, gonna be using it during my wageslavery (hence the need for IPS, won't have a table or anything).

>>61264210
If it's for wageslavery, tell your employer to get you a nice portable workstation

>>61263893
dont bother
http://time.com/3558936/fingerprint-password-fifth-amendment/

Found a t420i in good state for 100€, should I buy it?

>>61264256
That's not important because I don't live in the US, so even if I have a numeric password they can force me to reveal it. I just don't want Microsoft getting my fingerprints or having to run a heavy program on background to unlock my computer

>>61253312
>you can't swap the wireless card on the x230 and above
but you can still put a mSATA SSD within the second MiniPCI Express slot
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X230

holy FUCK is the touchpad on my x230 really fucking bad (the texture and sensitivity) just for me ? Hate that thing, I just use the clit anyway, but it's so much better using the touchpad on my mom's x201.

>>61264785
yeah, it's fucking trash

>>61258003
Sexy

>>61264773
the wiki is outdated and sometimes wrong

>>61264678
i models are underpowered pos of shit.

you can get a normal t420 for around than price

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>>61264880
There's also the Lenovo maintenance manual, pages 70-74.
https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/x230_x230i_hmm_en_0b48666_01.pdf

>>61263893
Enjoy the botnet

>>61264954
just saying, ofc you always have the maintenance manual.

the german wiki is much better.

>>61263730
maybe biosmods.com or thinkpad forums

>>61264210
x270

>>61240904

New thread:

>>61264989


>>61264989


>>61264989

>>61263718
They don't have iGPU meaning that if your dGPU fails then you are fucked. It's better to have both of them for reliability and longevity of the machine IF the dGPU shits itself.

>>61264773
yeah but a second ssd isn't going to make wifi work in mac os

>>61265061
>mac os
Use a dongle or alternatively, get shock therapy.