/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for Gentoo.
Asked in the last thread but didn't get an answer.
>>61210302
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>>61211228
Second for OP is a faggot.

Install NixOS

Install GuixSD

Why is the GNU/Linux mascot still an updated, old, fat penguin?

Are there not OS-tan mascots like there are for different Windows and Mac releases?

>>61211228
Just for discussion, what are some good server ideas with Rasberry Pi's?

>>61211380
I actually want to try this but I can never get it running in a VM.

>>61211228
> No /pol/
>Posts /pol/

At this point, it's just shitposting.

>>61211397
Nobody gives a shit

>>61211610
This. /fglt/ is the slowest general on /g/ because no one really uses Linux unironically, it's a toy OS.

>>61211751
/thread?

>>61211390
tor bridge, exit

>>61211228
/pol/ BTFO

>>61211751
kernel*

>>61211751
It's one of the only threads that actually discuss technology. The others are manchildren benchmarking their micro penises and dumb phone posters.

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>>61211830
>some irrelevant student project OS
>"technology"

>>61211922
Stallman was actually a researcher.
And the definition of technology doesn't conflict in any way with the fact that linus was a student, meme boi.

Hello,
I installed awesomeWM on muh x220 running ubunt (Linux(((GNU)))).
It is kinda comfy and nice, but I have some problems:
>fn keys do not work
>volume keys do not work
how 2 fix? Everything is fine when I choose unity again. Does i3 have the same problems?

>>61212096
I don't know xbindkeys is still the recomended solution for those without a DE but it's what I use.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xbindkeys

>>61211228
wait, that pic really triggered people enough to get deleted one way or another?

>>61212096
Check the docs you probably have to set the key functions by hand.

>>61212096
You sure you're just not binding them incorrectly? Or expecting them to just work without actually binding them? In WM's typically those special functions (like volume controls or brighntess) won't work without you actually specifying you want them to.

I don't think Fn keys even behave like a normal modifier (like shift, alt, or ctrl) so there is no "Fn+<key>" options.
Those special functions like volume/brightness controls all have their own bindcodes. For example for my volume controls on my laptop I press Fn+F* to use them, but there is no "Fn+F5" or whatever. They are just treated as single entities, not combinations. E.g. for mute on my laptop the bindcode comes out to just 121. For lower volume it's 122, and for higher it's 123.

>>61211242
Your CPU doesn't even support 3Dnow, why would you want it?

Also, larger binaries don't impact performance like you think they do.

If you like using your keyboard a lot and get annoyed by having to use the mouse to click on links (or mash tab over and over again), check out the extension Vimperator. Breddy gud. Bit annoying that 4chanX keybinds don't work anymore though.

>>61212311
What about "VimFX"?

>>61212339
I haven't tried VimFX yet.

>>61212096

First I suggest you kill yourself to stop using that cringe worthy children's parentheses meme. Then you might get help after you reincarnate as a less retarded person.

>you need pulse audio goyim.

Is there any non Jewish web browsers that will let me keep alsa. I could not be assed the deal with puelsaudio.

>>61212483
qutebrowser?

>>61212483

>posted from my windows machine

I ran "chmod -R 777 /" by accident and it's fucked SSH access resulting in "Network error: Software caused connection abort". Can I fix this or have I got to reinstall again?

>>61212492
Listen hear fuckboi, I have u know that I just want another browsers. appreciate the help.

>>61212514
Did you do it on the machine you are sshing to or from?

>>61212233
>Or expecting them to just work without actually binding them?
I expected this.
They all said linux just werks ;_;

>>61212619
You chose to install a limited environment you mong. Sting with gnome or whatever.

>>61212605
SSH'ing too as root. It isn't the client machine as it works fine on my other box.

>>61212670
Your private RSA key must only be readable by user, otherwise it won't work.

>>61212514
probably .ssh folder is fugged. those can be finicky about permissions last time i had trouble with it.

REEEEE why is my mom's internet so slow
I get like 20 kbps download from my server

>>61212670
chmod -R 600 /etc/ssh/ ~/.ssh/

And stop running moronic recursive commands on your whole server.

>>61212703
T-thanks, anon. Please no bully, I hit the return key before I inputted the directory.

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>mfw learning about sticky bits and extended permissions

>>61212514

Reinstall unless you want to go through every file again and adjust the appropriate permissions.

>>61212841
>sticky bits and extended permissions
l-lewd

>>61212909
I'd like to extend my permissions into HER sticky bits, if you catch my drift.

So, if i boot from a live cd and then use something like sudo Ctrl c + v to copy the root onto another hdd, can i later boot from live cd again, delete the root and ctrl c + v the root back from that back up add to restore previous version of it? would that work?
Basically emulating the snapshot functionality

>>61212934
Yeah, kinda. There are some other things you need to do like update grub (the bootloader) to inform it of the new install on the HDD, likewise regenerate your initramfs, also probably update the fstab to point to the new rooftfs.

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>pretty new to gnu/linux and bumbling my way through fedora
>need to use adobe flash for an old ass video
>mfw the fucking process for getting it to work in firefox
Why the hell is this so fucked

is debian 9 + budgie a good combo?

>start inputting commands into terminal
>they aren't working
>what the fuck
>check for typos several times but they are none
>WHAT THE FUCK
>5 minutes later realize i oppened a GIT bash windows instead of a terminal windows
i need more sleep ;_;

>>61213009
Why do you need to do the fstab and that other stuff if you are replacing the root file structure and playing the new one on the same hdd and partition?

>>61213180
Because it is shit and old and not supported anymore?

>>61213269
Because you are copying them from something that is booting from a different disk.

>>61213320
But that is not true.

OS is live on HDD1
Copy root from HDD1 ---> HDD2
some time later something breaks or whatever
Delete root from HDD1
copy root from HDD2 ---> HDD1
OS is still on HDD1

When I swapped some time ago from being a disgusting mentally ill windowsfag to Linux (arch), I was struggling to set shit up reading the wiki, and I done goofed and somehow configured systemd to connect to some loopback instead of my wifi connection on boot.
Then I saw it was wrong and set the wifi fine, But each time my computer boots it looses some 2 minutes looking for that shit lo.device that doesn't exist.

I don't remember what part of the wiki made me do this shit, so how do I turn this crap off now?

>>61213456

>figure out which way you're connecting (which utility you're using)
>look into the utility and remove that connection

How do you expect other people to know what you did?

>>61213456
Install ubuntu faggit. The only good thing about the arch is the wiki.

>>61213180
>the fucking process for getting it to work in firefox

Do explain what is so hard in downloading the tar.gz from adobe.com/go/getflashplayer and extracting the libsomething.so from it to ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiledir/plugins ?

>>61213555
I know which utility I'm using to the connection that is actually working.
I can't remember, because I was doing a bunch of shit, which one I used to enable that fucking lo.device during boot.
So maybe a better question would be, what can I do to find out what is doing that?It's deffo some systemd bullshit, but I don't know which one.

>>61213621

systemd-networkd

>>61213336
Garbage In, Garbage out.

>>61213456
lo should exist in a normal system

Do I need to have qt5-base installed in order to use qt5 applications, or is it only required if I want to build them?

I wanted to format an unmounted partition and it says error, the device is in use by the system. What the actual fuck? It's unmounted it can't be used by anything.

>>61213623
Thanks man

>>61213651
Care to expand, or at least point me in a direction to understand it? I've no idea what that is.

install Source Mage

>>61213705
You need it installed to run them (unless they link Qt statically, or ship with Qt, which usually both isn't the case)

>>61213777
Thanks, makes sense.

FUCKING TERMINAL TYPOS STOP RUINING MY LIFE

>>61211922
>RMS
>Student
Lol, wut?

>>61213877
Just make sum aliases lulz

>>61213261
kill yourself

>>61214213
I think he was talking about Linux.

>>61214360
Whoosh

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>>61214360
Linux Torvalds

>>61214549
Who thought that greyscale was a good idea? Phew

How do i create encrypted container which i can mount and access like i can for example a partition, but it is actually a file which i can transfer and shit? basically same way true crypt worked

>>61215059
luks is capable of doing just that, plenty of guides on the web

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>>61214549
Linus Mint

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>>61215158
Arch Richarx

What are some must-have flags for compiling ffmpeg so most shit will work?

is there some trick to using wine? shit barely works for games. Only use it for foobar

>>61215315
Yes, sometimes you need to install extra dlls and shit. Some games work better with certain older wine versions.

playfromlinux and winetricks take care of these problems.

>>61215158
>leader of the free world
yeah, lemme deblob his kernel first

>>61215315
playonlinux is a framework that allows you to easily maintain a collection of different wine versions in separate containers. And it has community made presets for a lot of games, so you just install it and should work ootb

>>61215326
s/playfromlinux/playonlinux/

>>61215360
I tried that but it was never clear the install process for steam stuff. Do you install steam through playonlinux and then install the games through steam with wine? How does a template know what game you are installing from steam?

>>61215315
>foobar
You are aware that there a native music players for GNU/Linux?

>>61215404
that don't have any useful plugins that foobar has

>>61215386
There's a native version of steam for Linux, you don't have to install it through wine

>>61215418
maybe he wants to play games that don't have a native gahnoo+loonix port?

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>install linux
>bring half of the windows shitware with you
What's the point. Just use windows

>>61215418
And here I thought I needed a full GNU/Linux operating system as defined by POSIX to run Steam. Now you're telling me there's a version that runs on the kernel, Linux?

>>61215418
you can play windows steam games from the linux client?

>>61215421
only have a chromebook

>>61215421
>However, if you're going to use these games, you're better off using them on GNU/Linux rather than on Microsoft Windows. At least you avoid the harm to your freedom that Windows would do.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.html

After 3 days my computer just randomly restarted.
Checked temps in BIOS nothing was higher than 40C
Checked journalctl at reboot time, only some glib GObject critical assertion errors (googled, related to nautilus) https://pastebin.com/qpKygK8C
Anyone knows why my pc rebooted..?
Is there anything else I could check?

>>61213180
just play the video in mpv

>>61215465
maybe some systemd feature

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>>61215465
After "system is rebooting" message there are some more lines of same errors...

>>61213877
tab complete if you are ever unsure of what you typed

>>61215465
those gobject errors doesn't have (SHOULD NOT HAVE) anything to do with the reboot. Rebooting your whole PC because of a gnome error is literally below Windows tier.

what was before the reboot line?

>>61215089
Is there something that works out of the box with ubuntu, or is a part in the repositories?

>>61215465
>Checked temps in BIOS nothing was higher than 40C
Temperatures typically drop pretty quickly. That wouldn't really be indicative of what the temperatures were when it happened.
>only some glib GObject critical assertion errors
That shit happens all of the time.

By "reboot", do you mean a normal reboot where you can see systemd closing all of the services, or a hard reboot, where it immediately turns off and starts booting again?
If it's the latter, it may be that your PSU crapped out for a moment or something. Just wait a while and see if it happens again.

>>61215505
Jul 04 15:35:07 chine systemd-logind[540]: System is rebooting.
That's it.

>>61215520
>Temperatures drop pretty quickly
I'm in a pretty chill room and this is new PC with ryzen 1700 and stock fan, nothing is OC'ed, shouldn't be temps.
>By "reboot"
I'm not sure... I was asleep next to pc and heared system "bell" (that little thing in mobo which makes sound after booting up etc), woke up, checked BIOS instantly...
Couldn't find any more errors/warnings in journalctl before reboot...

>>61215513
luks works out of the box with ubuntu

>>61215386
help?? How do playonlinux templates interact with the steam versions? Do they really expect people to have physical copies of all those games in the templates? At least with gog releases they have specific templates with "gog" in the title.

>>61215544
oh... wait a second...
I think I know what happened... It might be just a power-line flicker, thing... (not sure how to describe it in english, so I won't :^) )

>>61215625
>At least with gog releases they have specific templates with "gog" in the title.
Because GOG sells you ownership of a copy of a game. You pay for it, download, burn on a disc and forget about GOG.
Steam is a rental service. You do not own the game you paid for, you rented it.

>>61215656
ya I know I always use gog whenever possible

Any stability issues using openRC over systemd?

>>61215656
Ackchyually you don't own your copy of the game, you are granted limited rights which include running it as-is. It just so happens that they don't enforce rules that say you can't copy the game.

>>61215735
This

>>61215735
good point

>>61214549
Anyone has the actual story in that mag?

>>61215718
Nothing I can think of.

t. using debian with openRC since it switched to memed and openrc was made available.

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Why are my firefox fonts so anemic compared to chrome? How do I make its fonts more like chrome?

>>61215806
Use the same font.

Chrome and firefox use gtk3

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I have a serious question. Is there any reason to use a specific kernel (4.4 4.8 4.10) in terms of security? while security is important, I don't want to compromise stability just to get it.
if it helps, I have pretty old hardware (1st generation core i3, c. 2010)

P.S: yes, I googled this, but all I got was evens are stable (4.6 4.8 4.10) while odds are experimental (4.5 4.7 4.9). there's no mention of differences in performance/security/stability between the versions.

>>61215802
Convinced me, will switch to openRC.

>>61215822
Chrome uses neither GTK nor Qt

>>61215845
If you want security use a distro that cares about that.
If you want stability use a kernel version from the stable branch.

Just find a distribution that combines both.

SInce your hardware is 7 years old you really have no reason to focus on bleeding edge kernels

>>61215872
I should probably mention I'm a linux noob too, that's why on mint mate. just started 2 months ago (ironically a few days before wannacry)

what's so awful about mint security? I wouldn't even know where the security problems are at.

>>61215909
Their websites got attacked, the installation ISO images were replaced with a compromised one and hashes were changed. And they didn't notice
Also Mint is based on Ubuntu but for some reason doesn't come with AppArmor profile like Ubuntu it's based of.
Mint devs really care more about convenience than anything.

>>61215571
If i type man luks into the terminal it says command not found

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>>61215845
>while security is important, I don't want to compromise stability just to get it.
I don't know shit abou the Linux kernel, but if this is your choice, then don't even think about security. Because 9/10 is either one or the other.

>his computer doesn't have a hardware killswitch
do you even care about security

memes aside, thoughts on this? https://puri.sm/learn/hardware-kill-switches/

>>61216149
Better than having none at all I guess.

I have my webcam permanently taped off though I don't suspect my old piece of shit is botnetized (no ME) to even allow turning it on remotely.

>>61216149
Nice gimmick, but what what we really need are un-cucked, modern CPUs. That'd solve the root of the problem, wouldn't it?

>>61215845

Always use the latest kernel. Always. There is no reason to use old kernels.

This isn't Windows where you use older versions of software if your computer is old.

>>61216325
>There is no reason to use old kernels.

I have to use 4.1.x LTS on my laptop, anything newer has trouble with the CPU (frequency scaling, fan, ACPI etc).

>>61216350

Report the issues on the bug tracker to get it fixed.

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https://www.defectivebydesign.org/dayagainstdrm

Oh no. I tried to make linux-hardened 4.12.a-1 work on my arch laptop, but I'm a bit stuck now. I already figured out that I have to use nvidia-304xx-dkms in order to make it work. For this to become effective, I have to use dkms autoinstall for the hardened kernel. For some reason, the build of the nvidia module keeps failing. According to some nvidia forum thread, this happened before to gentoo guys and they fixed it by disabling ccache for the build process. However, this did not help me. Is there any way for me to find out the actual cause or should I give up?

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>>61212241
Could've sworn it was listed in the flags section when I did a $cat /proc/cpuinfo
Guess not though, so I'll remove it. What about the other SSE instruction sets? Do I need to explicitly list them like I did or are they automatically enabled by me specifying sandybridge under -march?

X isn't working and I don't know why, I know it has to do something with my Intel display drivers but I don't know what.

Using startx does says this.

Wanting for X server to being accepting connections.
..
..
..
(Does this for a while)
Xinit: giving up
Xserver refuses to die.


Quick answer I have an unexpected visit from grandma wanting to take the tabc or some shit.

Thanks in advance

https://max.io/bash.html

>>61216972
cat /var/log/Xorg.log |grep EE

post the results.

>>61216981
There is no xorg.log, looking into the dir I see a xorg.0.log

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>>61216981
>cat /var/log/Xorg.log |grep EE
>cat | grep

>>61217004
that's fine too

>>61217005
what's wrong with it

>>61217005
>>61217005
Yall didn't troll me right I'm new to this shit


R-right


>>61217019
I got nothing btw

hey /fglt/ i have tried a lot of distributions in virtual box i want to get settled on debian but except manjaro no other distro let me change resolution if i install it on my actual pc will i be able to change it with xrandr and stuff?
whenever i try to add new mode in xrandr it just gives error unable to get size of gamma from output default it could be because of very low vram in virtual box (16 mb) and no proper drivers or something, if i install debian on my actual pc will that all still be a hassle? i dont mind if it is just virtual box only

>>61217024
grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log

>>61217005
do fgrep shills do it for free?

>>61217024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_%28Unix%29#Useless_use_of_cat

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I found this old thinkpad with vista. What are some good distros for older hardware? (Ignore temps pls)

>>61217055
>>61217063
>>61217075
Guys plz

At least help me get it working once for good old granny. I'll attempt to fix it later

>>61217082
>celeron M
You can really punish them, if you catch my drift.

>imperial measurements
heh

>>61217082
crunchbang++

>>61217082
Get a straight vanilla Debian with Xfce or Openbox+tint2.
>>61217114
Bunsenlabs*

>>61217096
>>61217123
Quick prepare a sacrifice for the arch devs!
fuck.

>>61217082
Basically most distros run on any toaster.

>>61217123
why this post got deleted?
>>61217122
crunchbang++ just got updated to deb 9

>>61217096
>logged in root
>startx
>it werks.

What the fuck I didn't have this much of a hard time before.

Can anyone tell me what's up?
I have a feeling some shit is wrong with my user account.

So using password for encryption is retarded, because NSA supercomputers will laugh in your face unless your password is like 50 characters and who the fuck wants to remember or type that so keyfile is the obvious choice... but if swat kicks down your doown they can just steal your usb stick with the keyfile, of no matter where you hide it, it can be found eventually.. so what the fuck should i do?

>>61217157
you not in the video group?

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what's the ThinkPad of linux distros?

so this is the new shell
https://elvish.io/

>>61217157
>x as root
please tell me you're joking

>>61217163
>unless your password is like 50 characters

>his password is not a small paragraph about his waifu.
Im displeased

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>>61217172
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>61217165
I though the whale group did this auto magical
>>61217185
I wish I was.

>>61217172
Probably debian. Old and reliable.

>>61217221
I'm prob gonna just reinstall, I feel like the problem is way back somewhere

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>When a file with the s attribute set is deleted, its blocks are zeroed and written back to the disk.

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>>61217173
>tfw speaking elvish and casting spells in source mage
What a time to be alive

How do i make a bat file on linux? I need to execute sevral commands, where the next one always waits for the previous one to finish

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>>61217907
is this bait

>>61217907

#!/bin/bash
commane1
commane2

Save and close file, then run

chmod +x YOURFILE

to give it execute permissions. Then you can run it.

>>61217958
>commane1
>commane2
lol I have no idea how I made this typo twice in a row

>>61217907
1.

Create a file called hack.exe

2.

Put shit into it, the first line should be (to keep is easy):

#!/usr/bin/env bash

Then add something like:

echo hackerman

3.

Make it executable:

chmod +x hack.exe

adds the e(x)ecute bit to hack.exe, now you can run ./hack.exe and it should print a surprising message

>>61217962
I have no idea why I type systemd when I want to type system.

>>61217977
I have no idea why I type Linux when I want to type Linus.

What distros are good for beginners other than Ubuntu and Mint?

>>61217995
GuixSD

>>61217915
>oh noez there is someone new to loonix who doesn't know everything about it, how dares he!
fuck off m8

>>61217995
Idk man, I don't think Ubuntu and Mint are good beginner distros.

>>61217995
Gentoo Hardened or Slackware

why aren't you listening to MS GNU right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXehxFgoAEI&list=PLv7Vw2tXfrx3mUx

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how the fuck do I type this character? I don't have the compose key on my keyboard... I just have a regular TKL mech keyboard.

>>61218062
´e

First time using linux, ubuntu 16.04 specifically. I was trying to install nvidia drivers and it tells me to disable secure boot uefi. Is it safe to disable secure boor?

>>61218062
Hold Alt and press 0233 on your numpad
Thank you, Pokémon

Any chance Firefox performs as good as chromium yet? Or does it still run like dogtrash?

>>61218046
>not posting the feat. rms track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9W2CEGxGU

>>61218062
>>61218085
On GNU/Linux you can type any unicode character by its hex code.
Press ctrl+shift+U then let go, type 00e9 then press enter.

>>61218085
>Hold Alt and press 0233 on your numpad
didn't do shit... maybe because I didn't use numpad (don't have one). also, that's impossible to remember.

on macos, I can just type OPTION+e+e and you get that letter.

>>61218121
that seems like a fucking nightmare. I'd have to have a list handy to enter all that shit. horrible.

>>61218062
In X11 you can hold ctrl+shift+u and type in the code and press enter.
e9: é

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>>61218146
according to this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key there does appear to be a SIMPLER way that doesn't involve remembering and typing a shitload of numbers.

>For instance typing Compose followed by ~ and then n will insert ñ.

But I don't know which of the keys on my keyboard is this mystical Compose key. This way of composing characters is sane like macos way of doing things since it's much easier to remember.

but... I can't figure out if any of my keys serves a function as a compose key....

>>61218134
Well what the hell kind of solution do you expect?
How is memorizing "0233" any different from memorizing "00e9" or even just "e9" >>61218146

If you don't have a keyboard for it then you're going to need to do some arbitrary shit to just type it at will. Alternatives include:
* Binding your own hotkeys to type it
* Installing an IME like "ibus" that can be activated to let you type special characters (this is how you type Japanese text, and you can even create your own custom user dictionary to easily do conversions like e→é on the fly.

>>61218209
>But I don't know which of the keys on my keyboard is this mystical Compose key.
By default there isnt. Just turn capslock into one

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>>61211228
>decide i want to go back to Xfce from Cinnamon
>Firefox isn't playing sound
>"To play audio, you may need to install the required Pulseaudio software."

What's up? If I boot into Xfce this happens, but if I boot into Cinnamon it's fine

>>61217163
read up on diceware

>>61218209
Read this and see if it's helpful:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_configuration_in_Xorg#Configuring_compose_key

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>>61218249
>Just turn capslock into one
Tips on how I do that? I'm using GNOME (maybe GNOME has a gui for that...) or do I use one of the X11 conf files?

>>61218217
I find pic related to be sane. you can remember it after 10 min.

>>61218074
samefag here, why noone trying this

>>61218283
thanks will take a look!

startx and xinit take me to a black screen with a cursor that doesn't blink and a mouse pointer that doesn't move. Xorg.0.log reports no errors or warnings and I have the current Nvidia proprietary driver installed and loaded successfully. I installed using GPT in BIOS mode as my motherboard apparently doesn't support EFI booting.

What do?

>>61211228
>check archives whats up
>its another attack to devide the community
damn, mastertrolling shills are mastertrolling

>>61218279
>diceware
Is that a joke? That is beyond retarded they even tell you to buy a fucking dice, what the fuck, if i wanted a password made of retarded random words that are hard to remember i could just make one in my brain without having to run the cryptoautism olympics

>>61218304
install ubotnet, it just werks

>>61218088
>>61218046
with enough booze its okish
not sure if I would listen sober

>>61218062
Install screen keyboard.
Set layout to whatever language you desire.

GUYS!!!
I've installed new HDD to my PC and now my SSD where linux is installed lsblk shows it as /dev/sdb, but /etc/fstab still says /dev/sda (root /home and /boot partitions), system still booted, but wtf..?
Should I change fstab..?

>>61218336
No news. Some threads back OP kept posting marx and "property is threft" stuff, attracting /pol/ and trolls. Some faggot seems to activly trying to kill this thread.

Guys, I'm trying to install Arch but I'm too autistic to understand the Wiki.
Is there any other guide that is more easier and is not a Jewtube video?

>>61218352
they are hard to remember at first, but if you haven't hit your head at childhood you'll eventually remember it. not sure it is for you though, one minute you are scared of the NSA knocking your door down, the next crying about cryptoautism olympics.
what the fuck do you want then?

>>61218431
yes, see >>61218357

>>61218405
Post fstab.

>>61218431
clear your head, and try again maybe even in a VM.

is there a terminal command to determine if my cpu has the botnet

>>61218431
wikihow, non ironically, it's step by step
Just google "wikihow arch linux"
You shouldn't use something with arch, though, ubuntu or antergos, manjaro should be good enough (use ubuntu)

>>61218405
make a refind thumbramstickusb before you tempt fate.

>>61218456
>google
embrassing

>>61218445
oh fuck... I feel so retarded now... Should have looked second time at fstab...
It's just comments...

>>61218456
>uironically teaching some arch newfag to "jewgle" for "wikihows" instead of telling him to read the fucking wiki
this is beyond cancr

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cinnamon's UI to set the Compose Key.

>>61218495
>using a de

>>61218433
>what the fuck do you want then?
Neural interface where a keyfile is store in my brain and i can transfer it into the computer by willing it, so that way it cannot be stolen unless i give it willingly and it is also big and long enough to be secure

>>61218511
if you use a DE, it's much better to use DE's way of setting things since it minimizes conflicts.

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what are some cool linux command lines

>>61218488
Anon, I just don't understand the partition section ;_;

>>61218304
Any help? I'd even take some search term suggestions.

>>61218545
just clicky what it tells you, you don't need to know what it is/
or you can use a helper to install arch, there are a few.
or finally give up and use a derivative like antergos. should be your finally option though

>>61218544
>linux command lines

adding net.ifnames=0 to the linux command line disables stupid systemd interface naming autism
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/

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>>61218617
>using systemd

>>61218544
bash

>>61218661
>>61218661
that would be a pretty limited desktop experience

>>61218544
sudo apt install hollywood
sudo hollywood
trust me kiddo

>>61218657
My programs don't even use or need systemd at all yet i add a dependency on it, without which it won't work just to spite the autists here
feels good

Can someone explain the problem with Systemd to someone who doesn't use Linux much

>>61218728
fuck off and read http://without-systemd.org

We don't need another goddamn shitstorm.

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>>61218728

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>>61218728
First of all, you need to realize that Linux is a system kernel, nowadays mostly used with systems like Android on phones or the GNU system on the desktop.

Is there a command I can use in order to determine which programming languages are installed? Obviously I can do a man of each one individually (e.g. 'man as' or 'man python) but I'd like something simpler.

>>61218860
no

>>61218876
Well why not?

>>61218892
That's the answer to your question.

There is nothing like: system --list-langs or something like that.

>>61218907
he asked W H Y

>>61218728
1) To understand what's wrong with systemd first you must understand what was _right_ before systemd.
Basically we are talking about "init systems" here which are PID 1. The very first process run when your machine starts up. If it crashes your whole system is unstable.

So, how could such a vital component in an OS that has been around for decades be so easily replaced almost over night by something new?

You don't have to be an expert to realize how amazing that is. It's not because of anything systemd did. It's because of how flexible and modular GNU/Linux software is usually written to be. The fact that systemd exists in such popularity today is an incredible testimony to the beauty of what we call "the unix way". That our old init systems could just be so easily, quickly, and painlessly replaced, despite the fact that they are such vital components.

2) It throws "the unix way" into the garbage. 10yrs from now when we want to replaced it it will be an absolutely MASSIVE undertaking. Probably nobody will ever do it and we'll be stuck with systemd forever because we let its developers fuck us over and get rid of a philosophy that has served us well for so long.

3) It's basically developed by Redhat who actually receive military funding, and there's almost no doubt about it that they are major players in whatever NSA backdoors already exist in GNU/Linux and are always on the lookout for more.
By the way, systemd has already influenced the fucking _kernel_. These are the people who have our dicks in the palm of their hands because even a kernel developer said systemd was "too complex to understand" and we are going to be dependent on them for the rest of our lives. That's their endgame. They don't even care about people who use GNU/Linux in ways other than what they want. They develop everything for GNOME.

>>61218907
Well then I guess I'll just make the script myself to do it.

>>61218922
Because fuck you, that's what shell scripting is for, that's why.

>>61218932

4) Poettering is basically an SJW
>The Linux community is dominated by western, white, straight, males in their 30s and 40s these days," Poettering wrote. "I perfectly fit in that pattern, and the rubbish they pour over me is awful. I can only imagine that it is much worse for members of minorities, or people from different cultural backgrounds, in particular ones where losing face is a major issue.

>>61218932
>le nsa backdoors
pls stop, crap like this just makes people laugh at you
post a link like >>61218770 with some actual, source informaton and you get people who actually thing about an opinion instead of chuckle and turn the paper

>>61218969
I don't care what it sounds like to underage memesters like you.

It's a reality. Laugh if you want, I don't give a fuck. You know there are circles online with much much more intelligent people then the likes of which you'd find on 4chan who would laugh at you for honestly not thinking GNU/Linux is already compromised by the NSA even now.

>>61218967
What really grinds my gears is that pottering a hitler meme. I dislike systemd myself, but searching and finding a target called "poettering", who is acktschhually just some guy (well maybe some "open source" fag, but who cares, he's gpl'ing his shit so wtf), writing free software and calling him out for it is wrong. And he is right with "it's free software; don't like it, don't use it. The force is Red Hat hat, a different target.

Are my flags good for maximum performance?

-Wl,-z,combreloc,--sort-common,--as-needed,--gc-sections,-O9001 -Ofast -march=native -mfpmath=both -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections

I use -O3 if -Ofast fails and -mfpmath=sse if -mfpmath=both fails

>>61218993
So show me one (1) nsa backdoor in systemd and we can talk. And don't come with "uh, systemd is such a large attack surface", because so is the kernel.

I reinstalled a distro without wiping /boot.
Is it safe to delete old initramfs files?

>>61219114
I never said it certainly had one. It's just a very real possibility.

Do you even realize how massive and important GNU/Linux really is in the world? It's used by just about every server, just about every super computer in the world.
Do you think people who actually have something to hide are running Windows 10? They're using unix based machines. There is FAR more information of interest to national security or even private corporations stored on Unix based machines than all the Windows machines in the world.

If you aren't even a little bit paranoid about it being compromised then you're kind of ignorant. Of course the NSA would have an extreme interest in being able to compromise GNU/Linux. Don't let it's lack of popularity on the desktop fool you.

>>61218770
>>61218795
>>61218858
>>61218932
Ok, so if I use an alternative to systemd like openrc would I lose any features that systemd would provide?

>>61219343
I'm not entirely sure because I don't need this feature myself. But it's possible you might lose the ability for deamons to restart themselves if they crash. But I'm not sure.
It's not really something that matters at all to average users anyway.

>>61219298
It's a very real possibility that your hardware has NSA backdoors. What are you gonna do now?

>>61219412
I don't see your point. I just spent 2 posts explaining to you that my machine is compromised, just like everyone else's.

What do you expect to hear? That I stop using my computer?
Just because I have been compromised doesn't mean I want to give those faggots responsible all the leeway they can get.

>>61219393
what about for someone who plays [[[video games]]]?

>>61219412
>>61219470
Besides, everyone always asks what's "wrong" with systemd.

How about you tell me what's "right" with it? It's not even nearly as good as you'd think it would be considering how incredibly massive it is compared to all its predecessors.
and in fact they say OpenRC pretty much has all the same improvements to the old init systems. It would be a much better init system to take us into the future than shitstaind.

Some ubuntu guys discovered a systemd flaw a few days ago, then wrote a patch BEFORE announcing it.
There was a OMG POTTERFAGS BTFO thread about 3 minutes later.
>oh it's nothing
Now you guys are back to "systemd is too big to every be audited" again already.
Pathetic.

I'm going to install mint. Am I doing a mistake?

>>61219188
yes, in fact you should delete them.

>>61215441
>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.html
I'm surprised, RMS was surprisingly reasonable. I've always been a little suspicious of Steam and Valve Software, however. the steam client is proprietary software after all and I've always been suspicious that it might invade my privacy so I keep it on a windows partition. Unfortunately as a lover of gayems I often have to put up with Windows to play certain games I like.

Why is it so difficult to have free wifi firmware. Why doesn't the kernel suppoert most current wifis?

I tried trisquel some weeks back and it was so fucking nice, but no wifi was the ultimative no for me.

>>61219664
You can get one of these usb wifi thingies off minifree etc. What distro are you using now?

>>61219626
Games are a bit different matter than generic software.If you want to play World of Warcraft, you want to play WoW and not anything else. Most people who play games don't just play games, they want to play that one game.

>>61219664
Because manufacturers are total faggots with their undocumented wifi hardware and proprietary firmware that are for some dumb fucking ass reason are not preloaded in chips.

Try a card/dongle with an Atheros chip, they are friends of freedom.

>>61219664
>we want free wifi, wtf hardware manufractors
>[nonfree wifi available]
>lmao freetards, people who have a job want to have a working computer, go eat some toejam
>[nonfree wifi is standard]

>>61219664
well man, you could spend some years reverse engeneering some firmware, make it work and when it works its deprecated
welcome to free driver development w/o helping manufracturers

>>61219711
What the hell are you saying?

>>61219753
nonfree software is pulluting the air
people think they can breath, but in reality they are breathing cancer

>>61219765
3deep5me

>>61219753
I think the problem is that most people simply don't complain since "it just werks" with nonfree firmware, which results in even more nonfree firmwares becoming the de-facto standard.

>>61219845
>implying complaining magically makes companies dropping free as in freedums drivers
nice fairy tale

Stupid question here. If Linux is GPL, how does it come with onfree firmwares?

>>61219845
I don't even get it to be honest.

Who is buying laptops based on the wifi? Nobody even looks at it, consumers just assume they're all about the same.
So what is there to protect by keeping their secrets proprietary?

>>61219862
You're an idiot and clearly have no idea how a free market works.

>>61219894
The kernel developers have the copyright. They give the users of the kernel a licence for using the kernel. Only these users who got a licence from the kernel people must follow the license rules. The kernel people can basically do what they want and the linux foundation and some other companies made some silent rules that they don't sue each others.

I love Manjaro i3 Community Edition. It's the only distribution I've seen that pre configures i3 into something resembling a desktop environment. While it's somewhat sacrilege, it saves me a lot of time. I can have a functional system on my laptop immediately and configure it as I go. there's just one problem I need to address and it's that its default text editor is Nano. I much prefer Vim. I've been Googling for a solution but nothing seemed to work so far. Naturally 4chan is the first place I ask.

>>61219894
in short, the GPL mandates that software made which components licensed under the GPL must also be licensed under GPL. non free firmware is added into an operating system made with GPL license components, not need out of them. therefore the firmware stays proprietary despite being within a free operating system.

>>61219999
Why not open whatever text file directly from vim? I also installed manjaro i3 as my first distro i really loved it but now i got rid of it because of memes and rolling release ;_;b
Also can someone answer me to this
>>61217053
Please

>sane indivudual: y0 man, your puter doesnt werk without firmwares
>freetard: reeeeeee, I want my computer to not work, wtf
>sane indivudual: install arch linux

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>>61219999
can't help, but nice digits anyway
have a standard playboy test picture

>>61220075
here is your (You) now pack your shit and fuck off.

What are you even doing in a GNU/Linux thread?

>>61220046
>Why not open whatever text file directly from vim?
I can be a slow and clumsy process for me sometimes. I'm also very accustomed to opening text files from Ranger with just the arrow keys. It's a force of habit I would rather bend the os around rather than relearn something.

besides, >implying anyone uses Nano

>>61220075
Dont tell me you wouldn't enjoy using a free driver instead of a nonfree one which does (((whatever))) with ring -9000 privileges.

>>61220138
nice dream constructs, but in reality people who have a job need to get shit done right now

>>61220138
He probably wouldn't actually. Tech illiterates always seek to restrict the scope of things available.

The more stuff that's open for him to learn the dumber he feels. It's easier for them to just say thigns are closed and not have to deal with it than it is for them to actually educate themselves on what the hell they're talking about.
So by simply expecting open wifi you're insulting his intelligence. That's why they lash out.
I mean, honestly is there any other reason someone would actually _fight_ for shit to be closed and proprietary?

>>61220171
>people who have a job
You mean those "serious" / "top 10 linux/unix networking commands" red hat enterprise (tm) jobs?

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I'm just leaving this here; one of many adapers, check the web (not shilling) https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb
Get one once, enjoy deblobbed kernel forever.

>>61220331
Would be better to make manufractors just stop fucking around and release free drivers tho.

>>61220331
why is there a FSF premium on all this stuff?
end up buying just whatever werks instead. maybe if i get my spare thinkpad librebooted i'll bother with this

>>61220382
As said just check the web, there's the same thing for 75% the prive and lower. I guess techonic shit is cheap.

>>61220364
Good luck with that (no sarcasm).

>>61220331
>https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb
>AR9271
Just buy a fucking Atheros USB card jesus fucking christ you dumb fuckers.

noob questions

afaik debian has a deblobbed kernel and when I install it, i can choose if I want to add a non-free wifi driver

wouldnt the same thing work for other free distros? lets say, getting the nonfree driver off debian and install it on trisquel for example?

>>61220331
>44€
>FOURTY FOUR EUROS

Chrissake it's less than $10 on eBay. What the goddamn fuck is wrong with these libre hardware sellers?

>>61220490
That's cheating, son. In order to make distros like Trisquel usable we don't have to hack proprietary software into it, but we need to try to make it work without. Thats the whole point of these distros. In your case, I'd recommend to just sticking to Debian.

>>61220490
No.

Debian has a standard kernel, without firmwares. If you supply the fw files, it will load them.

Trisquel and other libre distros have deblobbed kernels. They don't have proprietary firmwares and don't have the ability to load them either (they ask for and load free firmwares thou).

Other distros have the normal kernel and usually install firmwares without asking as part of their basic package sets or their kernel package depends on the firmware package.

>>61220556
Debian actually uses its own, deblobbed kernel ootb. It does not use the vanilla kernel.

>>61220588
did you even read the whole post

>>61220490
basically yes, its like creating frankensteins kernel, but it works
>add ubotnet repo
>install wifi drivers
>remove ubotnet repo

or just dl the module and load it
welcome to the botnet

Well I'm back, I got xorg to work only under root, reinstalling does nothing. This is in arch BTW.

My problem appears when launching xorg.
Instead of launching it would show this.

Waiting for x server to begin accepting connections.
..
..
..
(Does that for a while)
..
..
Xinit:giving up
Xinit: unable to connect to x server:connection refused.
Waiting for x server to shut down.....
Xinit: X server is slow to shut down sending KILL signal
Waiting for server to die...
Xinit: x server refuses to die

Christ I had to phone post this.

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>jump off the windows 10 train
>install ubuntu
>follow these threads
>realize I'm far from chilled computing
why is it so difficult to use a computer in freedom?

>>61220624
>this is in arch
Stop being an idiot and use Fedora

>>61220693
>use Fedora
>>61218795

>>61220675
>chilled computing
What's that, some sort of super cooling device?

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>>61220675

>>61220693
Ur not helping SENPAI, plus I don't like fedora.
I never had this error before, and before anyone ask this is a regular computer not a laptop.

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>>61220701
>use community based software that gets its package manager from FOSS
>get fucked somehow

>>61220675
We are close. In my opinion NixOS is the answer. Only thing it's missing is a non-systemd option.
If it had that it would over night become the hot new meme distro

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I only installed Linux (Mint) on my laptop because Windows 10 literally killed it. The only thing I don't like about it is that Lollypop is the only half decent audio player for it.

>>61220811
Why not just mpv?

quick, new thread before communism

>>61220827
No playlists? On Windows I used Wynil http://vinylsoft.com/ which has a fucking sweet smart playlist feature.

>>61220783
Actually I think GuixSD is much better, but muh gaems.
Who knows what little differences in the linux libre kernel that would gimp my performance.

>>61220876
What sort of smart features? mpv can do playlists

>>61220876
>>61220903
Oh also, I haven't used it myself but a lot of people here swear by things like "ncmpc" which are music player daemons, and I guess the whole point is that they manage playlists and can be quickly started/stopped, and probably a bunch of other stuff.
Maybe something like that is what you want.

"new" thread: >>61221003