/mkg/ Mechanical Keyboard General - Meme Edition

oh I fucked up this thread have I

>Learn to touch type:
http://www.keybr.com/
>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Use the buyer's template
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

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First for chink topre clones

>>61163205
I ordered a Plum 87.

how to make it cute

i got a new ducky one and the spacebar feels much lighter than the rest of the keys. is this normal?

>>61163205
Do you know how big that space bar is? The keycaps I'm thinking of getting claim theirs is 6.25u.

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>>61163166
Alright faggots, so this keycap set is finally gonna come out on Monday.

Who else is gonna waste money on this?

>>61163166
>speed 346

Is it WPM? I'm pretty sure I was at 65 wpm.

>>61163794
Its not bad, I got a set of gmk plum, the quality is top notch.

>>61163838
letters per minute? ~6 letters is about a word.

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>>61163794
nah it's ugly. colors are horrid, symbols (shift, arrows) look like shit and the font's boring.
pic related is the best style for keyboards, period.

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>>61164015
Hol' up senpai, I got something you'll love.

You think chiclet caps are hot shit, check out this XxGamerxX keeb.

>>61163771
Annoyingly it's a 5.5u spacebar

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>>61163205
Fuck that rubberdome shit but yes the Noppoo choc mini is one of the best keyboards ever. It is a complete shame that the spacebars are so hard to get but so far I have a blue, white, and black one.

Unicomp classic or ultra classic?

Is there any diference beside that extra plastic part that they cut off?

>>61164637
Try get the beige ultra classic (it's sold out right now) those cases are usually in the best condition and they are built fairly well.

>>61164461
What is the measurements of the space bar?

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>>61164765
5.5u

>>61164700
Why that difference? I wanted a black frame with white and gray keys

If I don't like DSA would I like Cherry? I don't like DSA because of the uniform height and low profile. Cherry looks barely taller than DSA but the sculpt looks ok. I'm used to sculpted SA and OEM.

>>61164784

Are those the Cherry double shots from kbdfans?

>>61163205
>>61164146
>>61164461
i'm a huge fan of the layout despite the low spacebar availability, because the other bottom row keys are all standard size, so right ctrl is comfy to press with your pinky, and right alt is super easy and fast to reach with your right thumb, and fn is also reasonably accessible and wide enough to press by swinging your thumb into your hand. protip: swap left ctrl with win key for comfy use with your left pinky

>>61164461
The only thing that stops me for buying a Noppoo is their ugly keycaps and the fact that the base isn't aluminum.
I'm between the Noppoo, a Poker II or a Pok3r, going strong towards the last.
Why I should get a Noppoo?

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>>61164896
yes

the carbon dsa spacebar kit has 5.5u spacebars too btw

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>>61164999
you'd get it for the 75% layout. other ones you can look at are drevo excalibur, KBD75/YMD75, vortex race 3

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Only thing I seem to hate about this keyboard is the right shift key. It just might take some getting used to?

>>61163205
did you know you can mod the domes

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112137004390

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Got a beamspring terminal and some other old IBM mainframe equipment for less than twenty bucks today. Going to have to burn about a hundred bucks in gas to go pick it up Monday, but I'm still happy as hell. So glad I was able to grab one of these for a reasonable price when they've gone to insane levels on ebay and such the last year. Especially this sexy beast compared to the 5251.

Will post more about it after the 4th once I wake up from my BBQ coma.

>>61163166
Where do you guys sell/trade your keyboards I have a Realforce HiPro JP that I don't really use any more and I don't really know where people do those sort of sales.

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>>61164999
It's only $60 right now, I'm actually ordering one in black tomorrow i think.
I use the Noppoo because I believe it's objectively the best layout. it lets me keep my f1-f12 keys while also having them extremely easy to reach. This is completely ideal for games with a ton of keybinds, I cannot play my primary game on other keyboards.
Hit two buttons on the keyboard and control and capslock swap. This enhances the previous point because now you can access the control+ layer for double the keybinds very easy. It's way easier to hit capslock+d vs ctrl+d.
Now that ctrl is capsllock you can bind it to your push to talk and you can toggle push to talk with out actually moving your fingers at all because your palm willl be hovering over the bottom left control anyway so simply lower your palm and your mic goes live.
POM keycaps are incredible. They feel so good under your fingers with the light clicky blue switches.
The media keys are actually sweet, I use them to control my music constantly.
I don't see how it's even a debate, the pok3r is just a maggic force with out the pg up/down cluster and the magicforce can be had for like $40 if you want that layout.
Pic related. Black switches on the maggicforce, blues on the noppoo. I switch back and fourth all the time.
>>61165058
Horrible quality assurance. Tons of reports of keys and LEDs dying with in a key months.

I love how I used to post "nth for 75%" in every thread and now 75% is popular

>>61165092
Deskauthority, Ebay, Geekhack are all pretty solid bets.

>>61165111
>Deskauthority
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.

>>61165089
Question: Can you make it work with a modern PC?
Does it have a buzzer?

>>61165105
Thanks. Will reconsider the Noppoo.
I wonder if will it be difficult to get spherical keycaps for it.

>>61164889
No one likes DSA, they just take pictures of it.

Usually, everyone's favorite profile is Cherry. It's what OEM should've been, it's great.

>>61165128
I can make it work with a modern PC. And it comes with a click solenoid instead of a buzzer, which I should also be able to get running again with a little effort. Here's a review of the same model. This guy's channel is pretty great if you like old keyboards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNRH1ULmbNA

>>61165161
I like DSA, not so much for the profile itself, but because you can use it on odd layouts that have keys in funny places. So as a guy that likes 75%, it and SA are the profiles of choice.

>>61165154
I would imagine it is extremely difficult. Your options are extremely limited. One other anon and I know of all of the sets that you can use with it. Your best bet is to buy the black or white choc mini and then buy one of the keysets in the opposite color, so you have a black and white spacebar for it. This allows you to use any primarily black or white set which opens up your options a bunch.
It seems like the drevo gramr is extremely fucking similar with a standard spacebar. The only thing strange on that board is the smaller right alt, ctrl, fn, etc but those are pretty common .

>>61165154
>I wonder if will it be difficult to get spherical keycaps for it.

Carbon SA fits if that is still going on.

I want to stick my dick in a Topre rubber dome

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tfw too jewish to buy expensive keyboards/caps

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Anyone excited about the new cubic profile from Tai-Hao? Cherry shaped tops with oem ish height, and thicker than the old Tai-Hao doubleshots.
https://www.keychatter.com/2017/06/29/first-look-tai-hao-cubic-profile/

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>>61165558
Upskirt shot.

>>61165220
>SA Carbon.
Shipping August 2018.

>>61165558
>Tai-Hao ABS
lol fuck no

>>61165558
>ABS

>>61165681
>>61165690
Well hopefully the new Leopold pbt double shots coming soonTM are nice.

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What do you think about my keyboard, i really like it.

>>61165558

I almost bought it. I really like the height and the sharp angles and I don't mind ABS. I cancelled my order because I'd rather put that $30 towards some EnjoyPBT dyesubs since I've been wanting those much longer than these cubic. Also the thickness of EPBT stretches TaiHao ABS till they split.

>>61166148
Surface Pro type covers are pretty decent as far as laptop and portable keyboards go.

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>waiting for the parts to build my first mech keyboard

>>61166352
What switches did you get?

>>61166388
Building a custom XD60 with a 65 key layout, black case, blank black PBT DSA keycaps and white accent keys. Using Gateron blues, might upgrade to MODs/Zealios later on.
Build isn't as pricy as I expected, other than some other stuff I bought the build came out to around $120.

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wow

>>61166148
It's the best laptop keyboard outside of surface book's.

Are Cherry Clears more prone to chattering than other switches?

>>61163166
Does anyone know of a mk that costs sub $50 and is ok?

>>61166457
drevo gramr
magicforce 68
tomoko 87
plugable 87

Are there any good options for quiet keyboards? I know they won't be silent, but right now even my rubber dome keyboard is clacky. Every "silent" mechanical keyboard sounds like gamer gear stuff, and I don't want to pay more money for rainbow lights. I had been looking at the Matias one for a while, but the local store doesn't have the new ones in yet.

>>61166523
What do you mean by "new ones?" There's a new version aside from the the Quiet Pro 4?

>>61166553
They don't have a single number on their website, but the stopped making whatever version earlier this year because they were working on the version that was released sometime in May. My store has only had the Mac version listed on their site, and doesn't have any of the Quiet Pros actually in stock anywhere.

Should I buy this:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/magicforce-82-key-mechanical-keyboard
It sports a gateron brown/blues or should I buy a cheaper keyboard with oetemu switches. This is my first mechanical keyboard and I'm hoping for something worth investing it for the long run.

>>61167924
>assdrop

Amazon has the James Donkey 619 for $60 if you want Gateron Browns. Don't bother with other Chinese switches unless your budget is really tight.

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>>61168015
Well its just for reference picture anon, it's being sold locally in my country for 60 buckerinos and has either gateron browns or blues.

>>61168032
Gat's clicky switches aren't great. Their looser tolerances aren't detrimental with linears/tactiles but it fucks them over with the click jackets on blues/greens.

>>61168032
Magicforce is fine as a board, though I hate the stock caps as my fat Burgerland fingers aren't accustomed to the slightly smaller size. You may want to spring for some PBT caps.

I have a Leopold FC900 with Brown Cherry MX. This was the first keyboard I got, so I didn't really know much about switches. It works fine, but after having tried Blue switches, it feels much worse, even though those switches were Kailh. I really like the design of the keyboard, and there is one version with Blue switches too. Should I get one of those, or should I solder Gateron switches on the one I have?

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Y/N?

First mech keyboard.

My other option is a Qisan with brown gaterons, which I like more aesthetically but costs 60€.

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>mfw bricked my tada68
eh whatever shit never worked anyway

>>61168422
>Browns

Absolute garbage. Get clears if you want cherry tactile or get a click or linear switch instead.

>>61168698
gateron browns are apparently far better than cherry, close to a sort of inbetween of cherry browns and cherry clears

>>61168422
Buy the one that please your eyes.

>>61165065
Yes, I want to do swap to heavier domes but I think I will need to do a lot of cutting to the sheet. If anyone has done this mod, please tell me what it was like.

>>61168436
What the fuck did you do

>>61168436
Teensy that bitch, bitch.

>>61165220
>>61165659
chink pbt dye sub DSA carbon has the 5.5u spacebar

>>61168794
this guy has done it

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6kcotu/who_else_loves_75/djl7fsi/

>>61169747
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6kcotu/who_else_loves_75/djl31ph/

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>>61165089
Very nice mate, I wish I had gone for the full size variant.

>>61168422
>the James Donkey meme
So many better chink boards. Buy a DREVO or some shit.

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ordered pic related as my babby's first mkb
What am I in for?

>>61166523
KBP v60 and v80 come with matias, but you gotta replace the keycaps asap.

>>61163181
Is it me or is that http://www.keybr.com/ thing broken as shit?

>>61170663
Works on my machine :^)
t. Firecuck

>>61170663
works for me in google chrome. check if you have javascript disabled or something.

>>61169014
i tried using easyavr to make a new layout
seemed to go ok, i put the new file on and then the board just stopped working
the lights wont even turn on when pressing the button on the underside to change the .bin file
so fuck it, the board only caused me problems

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First time trying out the WASDKeyboards .svg template upload, and I'm pleasantly surprised

>>61170328
>>61170328

Ducky makes good shit, love the blank top caps they get me rock hard

>>61173694
nice

>>61166148
I had the type cover for the SP2 and it wasn't too bad. Would have appreciated more key travel, though.

how are das keyboard users treated here? asking for a friend.
also, the hhkb is looking mighty fine for 200 bucks. i should start off with the not silent version since i could just mod that right?

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What are you guy's thoughts on the GK87 Pro?

>>61173822
>>61173822

Fuck how you're treated mate, do what makes you happy

Man I wish Signature Plastics could get their shit together already. Was debating on grabbing some Granite High Contrast for a build I was thinking about but took too long to decide and now the base sets are all sold out.

It's so frustrating. One either has to plan months or years in advance and pray that they'll still actually want the keycap set that far in the future or just roll with whatever becomes available and snap it up in the first 5 seconds or you won't get shit.


>>61173694
Does WASD still do lasering or are they dyesub now? I got a couple sets of their earlier lasered caps and the legends on the dark keys rubbed off with astonishing speed

>Budget
<50€
>Location (continent at least)
Netherlands
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX/MX clone
>Layout
ansi
>Form factor
TKL or up, I program so I need a dedicated home/end/pgup/pgdn button
>Backlight
Nice to have but absolutely not a requirement
>Previous/current keyboards
None

>>61174043
have been less happy with this keyboard, just wanted a little bit of motivation to grab the other one i talked about. but that m8

>>61174183
for that price you arent going to get anything worth while
coolermaster boards are are at least 100 pounds
i dont know if you can buy this but this one is under 50
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Resistant-VicTop-Mechanical-Waterproof-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01DBYNVSY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498933865&sr=8-1&keywords=tomoko+keyboard

>>61163166
So, is the JamesDonkey 619 actually a meme or not?
Is 30€ right now on gearbest
Which switches are good for it?

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>Budget
$200
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
I've tried reds, greens, and blues, I found the greens and blues too heavy/noisy, currently using reds and I don't like how I can't feel the actuation point. I think that browns would be a good compromise.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
75%
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
current: CM Storm QuickFire XT reds
previous:CM Storm QuickFire Rapid blues

>>61174183
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Qisan-Mechanical-Keyboard-68-Keys-Magicforce/dp/B01A8FKXO4

>>61165089
I wonder if the Parkinson you have is due old keyboard beating

>>61174292
YMD75/KBD75 with gateron brown

or
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9W13T94457

or
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum84-white-LED-backlit-mechanical-keyboard-gaterom-mx-brown-blue-red-compact-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap/32767632458.html

>>61165018
>>61164784
These layouts make me wish I hadn't bought an Anne Pro

>>61170298
They don't have Gaterons tho.

>>61174266
It slides around a bit since there's no rubber feet on the bottom half, but it's pretty nice.

>Which switches are good for it?
Anything but Blues.

>>61174436
I like the KBD75, I will have to find my own keycaps and assemble it myself, correct?

>>61174800
>I will have to find my own keycaps
yes, and you will have to pay attention to keycap compatibility with the short right shift and such. this would fit the default configuration:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Cherry-Profile-Thick-PBT-84-Side-printed-Keyset-Key-caps-For-MX-Mechanical-Keyboard-Keycool/32801326548.html

>assemble it myself
you can pay extra for assembly service or assemble it yourself

Im fed up with all you newfags saying tada is $100 or so

If you autistic faggots were here two months ago, you would know you can buy it for $80 (from taobao, inluces agent fee and shipping).
And at that price, you literally cant find a better deal. It has thicc dyesub pbt keycaps, gateron switches and it is fully programmable. Get real. Get tada.

>>61175303
proof? and it would still be more convenient to buy it from kbdfans

Why is this board so expensive? It seems like that's MSRP too as it's sold by newegg. $110 for a simple RGB TKL seems absolutely insane to me.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823129050&cm_re=RGB_keyboard-_-23-129-050-_-Product

>>61175514
Branding, mostly. Plus RGB adds another $40 compared to an identical board with single-color LEDs.

Ducky One RGB TLK is the same price, except you get better keycaps.

>Budget
50 - 150 smackaroos
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
cherry mx brown, but any that aren't too loud are good enough
>Layout
ansi
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
NO LEDs
>Previous/current keyboards
n/a

Want also a white variant available.

Quickfire XTI with greens or ducky one ?

>>61174066
>>61174066

I'm not entirely sure, but my last set from them saw some serious action for 5 years and never rubbed off

>>61175829
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1232

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Why is the UK the worst place for keebs?

>>61176232
>keebs

Fuck off.

>>61176203
cool thanks anon

>>61176293

I'd go with the new poker 2, mainly for the arrows keys on wasd https://www.ikbckeyboard.com/product-page/new-poker-ii-black

>>61176251
a u t i s m

>>61175399
i bought mine from there, anyway, no proof needed. Its $60 on taobao, agent fee is 5-10%, shipping depends on your place, it was $15 for me (eu)

>>61176641
at least tell us a good agent, preferably one with a clear pricing structure posted on their website

>>61175977
Ducky because standard bottom row.

>>61176232
all places are pretty bad anon. just get your keyboard from chyna like everyone else

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which keycap for long typing/programming sessions do you guys prefer? I have OEM. don't like it much after 4 hrs or so.

>>61176906
quickfire xti has a standard bottom row

>>61176924
cherry

>>61176930
Ducky One got double shot keycaps then.

>>61176774

https://www.reddit doot com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6a0k4e/photos_just_got_my_tada68_with_a_handmade_usb/dhaytxv/

>>61168422
>>61170298
>James Donkey
>Jack Ass
I get it.

>>61176952
so 407 yuan for the keyboard shipped to the agent, 180 yuan for standard shipping from the agent (maybe a bit less without the wrist rest?), unclear if there were additional fees, 407+180 yuan comes out to around $88 after currency conversion fees, and i think kbdfans includes fedex/dhl shipping
>more expensive goods, we will use FEDEX or DHL, relatively low prices of free shipping items we will use epacket, or China Post
so 407+272 yuan = ~$102 after currency conversion

so you save maybe around $10 if you're willing to deal with the taobao agent and wait longer for the agent to buy it in china and then ship it to you

>>61177150
The wait's only bad if they use epacket/post. If they send it through DHL it's only like 2 days to burgerland. Not sure about Fedex but it's probably about the same.

>>61177150
if kbdfans include DHL shipping for tada68 you may as well buy it from them, because 407+272 yuan isn't cheaper

>>61173694
Guess I'll be the one to call this guy out for all the pubes on the left hand side of the keyboard. Bruh?

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Just ordered a Mistel Barocco, anyone know if there are any keysets for split space bars?

Just got a WASD Code with greens. The keyboard is extremely nice, but these greens are murder on the hands. Whoever on here told me they had a "more responsive" actuation than blues is retarded. These things are like heavy, heavy mush.

Oh well, will swap it out for one with blues. It's weird that WASD rarely gets talked about on here. The keyboard was pretty expensive for what you get, but the build quality is on a completely different level from what I've used before, and the aesthetic is very nice.

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>>61178009
good luck finding a 3.25u spacebar without chopping up a bigger one like pic related. your pic looks like it has a 3u spacebar in place of the right 3.25u spacebar so if the connectors are the same you could just get two 3u spacebars which you can find in some keysets for example DSA carbon and SA carbon

>>61175045
If I were to assemble it myself, would that require soldering?

>>61178279
You would need to populate the PCB with components and solder in the switches, yes

>>61178279
yes

YMD75 has assembly for $7 (KBDfans charge $17 for assembly)

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Fast-Free-shipping-Customized-YMD75-84-Full-Kit-CNC-Aluminum-Case-PCB-Plate-Switches-Underglow-RGB/429151_32812690592.html

>>61176937
>cherry
it's almost the same thing as OEM. it's the opposite of comfy.

>>61179043
cherry profile is comfy the only bad thing about it is the stupid ass spacebar. what other profile do you suggest

What profile is topre closest to? Cherry?

>>61179066
dunno bro... I basically used laptop KBs and OEM profiles on mechs. that's why I'm asking.

after I dumped keyboard feet because they're retarded, my typing speed increased and my wrists became a lot comfier but I don't find OEM that comfy anymore. dunno what I should try to have a comfier experience.

https://www.bakkerelkhuizen.com/knowledge-center/feet-in-or-out/

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>>61179084
Top is IBM

2nd down is Topre

3rd down is Cherry COrp

4th down is Filco

>>61163166
Lads I'm looking for a somewhat cheap mechanical keyboard, never had one before.

I want something like the drevo gramr or ajazz ak33, I don't know how the layout is called. But I need home and end keys.

Which one should I get, is there any other option?

>>61179385
Get this
http://www.amazon.in/TVS-e-Bharat-Gold-Wired-Keyboard/dp/B00A17MNHU/260-6990090-4247929?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0

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>>61179043
You clearly have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about, and have never used Cherry.

Good PBT Cherry profile keycaps just can't be beat.

Typing this on an IBM Model M dated 1996. Also got two others dated 1993 and 1986. :^)

>>61179427
>Overpriced membranes
Yuck

>>61177863
>>61177863

I sprinkle a little on every new keyboard to personalize it

What exactly are "OEM Profile"? I've heard it thrown around but never seen a pic like >>61179114 that describes what it looks like

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>>61179723

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>>61179723
Most cheap ABS keycaps or usually stock keycaps are OEM.

No one likes OEM.

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Sorry for the noob question. Why are the keys so close together on this board compared to normal boards? Are the keycaps bigger, or is the spacing different?

>>61181009

Those are the tops caps in >>61179761 they're shorter so they look fatter.

Is there any difference between the Model F 122 and the Model M?
I personally like the F122 aesthetically

>>61181422
Model F is capacitive whereas Model M is buckling springs over membrane. This give the Model F a longer lifespan and NKRO as well.

>>61181422
Big flipper on PCB vs smaller flipper on membrane. So the F will feel more tactile just because it's a bigger thing hitting a more solid surface.

Also, there's 122 M's. I even have a unicomp USB one kicking around here somewhere.

>>61174266
>So, is the JamesDonkey 619 actually a meme or not?
Peak meme. It isn't the worst board on the market for sure, but people shill it because of the jackass name and because it looks like a tonka truck.

>>61179840
>>61179840

OEM is the profile type, not the material used, right?

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>>61179416
it's the same angle and shape as the OEM you retard. the only difference is slight height which you can't even tell.

>>61179114
I've measured angles. Interesting to say the least.

>>61179723
>What exactly are "OEM Profile"? I've heard it thrown around but never seen a pic like >>61179114 that describes what it looks like
OEM = Filco. Costar (Taiwanese company that makes tons of keyboards for various brands including Filco) basically came up with it to compete with Cherry. It's nearly identical except for the the height difference. It was not copyrighted so it spread among various asian manufacturers.

>>61181782
correct. keycap profile has nothing to do with plastic type. it's just that 99% OEM keycaps are shitty ABS.

>>61181844

It's just so strange to call ALL OEM profiles "OEM" because shouldn't they differ from each manufacturer?

>>61181863
well, they're almost all the same profile. just the colors, legends/fonts and features (transparent window, translucency etc) are different. but they are all of the same profile.

there's less than 8 companies that actually manufacture keycaps. everyone buys from them. so they're OEM in more ways than one.

>>61166443
What is this? Do want

>>61182061
very interested.
https://world.taobao.com/item/554638095790.htm

>>61181833
>it's the same angle and shape as the OEM you retard
>which you can't even tell

The only retard here is you, because once again, you have not used Cherry profile, so shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about.

Come back when you buy these and tell me that OEM is better than Cherry with a straight face: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/try_cherry_shithead/2230037_32679207765.html

>>61182207
I have used it. Same shit feeling. Same pointy corners.

>>61165033
Where are the pink and purple caps from?

>Budget
as cheap as possible (50 or less)
>Location (continent at least)
Central Europe
>Preferred switch type
I don't have a preference
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
as small as possible but I like the 10 number keys above the letter
>Backlight
probably not but it would be a really nice addition
>Previous/current keyboards
I've been using a shitty 10 euro tesco keyboard for like 5 years

>Budget
up to 70€ including shipping

>Location (continent at least)
Spain
>Preferred switch type
Open to anything that feels good for typing and isn't too noisy. I don't play video games.

>Layout
ISO

>Form factor
TKL

>Backlight
NO LEDs


After doing some research and trying to find something cheap I got two candidates:

>James Donkey 619
>Gateron browns, 37€
Not sure if trusting chinks and I don't like the aesthetics

>Qisan Magicforce 68
>Gateron browns, 60€

>>61182292
>>61182292
>>61182292

Tai-Hao Miami PBT Doubleshot

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>>61165092
I'm probably gonna get BTFO, but /r/mechmarket is a pretty good place to sell keyboards/parts on

>>61182539
>>61182539

Nah man, reddit is good for one thing and that's buyin/sellin

How do you Niggers even type on 4cm high keyboards?
I want to buy one but mine were always 1cm high and I think I would have to change my technique

>>61182529
Isn't miami pink and teal?

Anyone here bought an ergodox and deeply regret it?
I do. My typing speed is terrible and going back to my laptop's keyboard is very painful.

>>61182632

fuck, u right

>>61182657
I think I found it on that tai-hao website though. Pretty sure it's ABS-104 Purple Mystery.

Any of you tried this?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IKBC-POKERII-60-compact-poker2-mini-mechanical-keyboard-poker-II-cherry-mx-switch-gaming-keyboard-PBT/2043845811.html

I see the Tada68 linked a lot but this one has Cherry switches for about the same price.

>>61182945
Pokers have always been top tier for 60%

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>>61182654
how much time have you invested into it?

I wish I had a datahand

>>61183019
I can't even play drums, much less use that contraption.

>>61174266
it's one of the cheapest boards that comes with gateron switches, so if you're on a very tight budget and can get over the looks it's passable

>>61182292
https://shop.tai-hao.com/products/abs-104-c01bb203?

>>61174266
People say it's a solid keyboard for the price but I just can't deal with the hideous looks.

>>61174266
It looks cheap and feels cheap, but if it's your first mechanical keyboard and you want to dip your toes in the water, it's a good starter board.. Plus it has Gaterons, the only good chink switch.

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Why didn't you order this beauty?

>>61183772
no short right shift
i already have good keycaps
carbon is too mainstream

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I can not use cherry mx boards after using my novatouch. Is this a curse?

What the fuck is up with Topre realforces being stock everywhere?

>>61184087
preach
im tryna cop a 55g but I might just buy another hhkb :/

>>61184112
>finally have enough money to get a nice gpu
>fagcoin miners wipe out global supply of everything
>finally have enough money to get a nice keyboard
>those are out of stock too

I hate 2017.

>>61177032

Jack is short for Johnathan though, not for James. Jim is short for James

>>61183964
cherry mx is objectively shit in comparison to topre, alps or buckling spring

Seems like 75% boards are exploding in popularity. I'm glad people are finally starting to see the light.

>>61182376
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Qisan-Mechanical-Keyboard-68-Keys-Magicforce/dp/B01A8FKXO4

>>61184333
What the fuck happened to all of the black ones? It seems that they just did one run of these boards last summer and still have no bothered to make more even though it was an insane success.
I'm typing on one now with thick PBT keycaps, which are an absolute must the stock ones are absolutely horrible, and black switches and it's such an enjoyable experience. I just wish I could get a black one for the original price of $40.

>>61182654
Send it to me

>>61168032
I got a guy selling me this shit used for 40 bucks, should I bite it as my first keyboard. It's about 5 months used and has gateron browns.

>>61168032
>>61185479
if you get this, it's best if you can spend at least another $24 on thick pbt cherry profile keycaps. for example
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Cherry-Profile-Thick-PBT-84-Side-printed-Keyset-Key-caps-For-MX-Mechanical-Keyboard-Keycool/32801326548.html

also consider tada68, the keycaps it comes with are already top tier

or noppo choc mini ($60 with gateron switches in the US) or plum 84 ($70 with gateron switches from china), which already come with pretty good keycaps, and you can get for example
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/32740037614.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/32799680240.html

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>>61185479
The gateron brown version cost 60 bucks brand new, at least it does here in America. The keyboard does have a floating design so it should be easy to clean the pubes out.

>>61185607
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/32799680240.html
Thanks anon for your concern, and honestly I'm tempted to follow your advice, but the reason I was planning to buy this is to prepare for my big splurge in a couple of months buy buying maybe a kbd75 and some dank ass keycaps (which i might buy a week after). Oh and thanks for the keycaps advice anon.

>>61185609
Planning to borrow a friends puller or purchase one my own.

man, when did mechanical keyboards become about ricer keycaps, consumerism, and rainbow effects? I used to think we were on a quest for more ergonomic keyboards :-(

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-gaming-strafe-rgb-cherry-mx-blue-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-ch-9000120-uk-kb-086-cs.html

This shit good for £90?

>>61186275
When Razer showed up

>>61165033

What's that form factor called ? (pic)

I want to buy a plate and pcb for it. Ideally, it would be ISO compatible...

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>>61186275

>>61186337
You're not good at reading, are you

>Budget
€40 or less
>Location (continent at least)
Holland
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX or "good" chink clones. No loud shit like blues
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL or up, I program so I need a dedicated home/end/pgup/pgdn button
>Backlight
Nah
>Previous/current keyboards
none

Outside of the dumb wristguard, is the G910/Romer-G keys good for shooters?

>>61163166
Just bought the masterkey pbt

Am I fucked?

Any better options than the Turtle Beach Impact 700 for less than 50 britbucks

>>61165121
*deskthority

Im poor, how bad is genius gx series?

>>61187281
fullsize (L) or tkl (S)? you're good as long as the layout is right for you

>>61187365
Yes

>>61183772
>>61183772

Not DSA. Need them flats boi

>>61188321
i would get just the DSA spacebar kit and use it with >>61183772. saves money too

>>61188347
oh nvm you can't get the 6.25u dsa spacebar separately

>>61185609
That kb looks exactly like what I wanted, but shit's like 90 bucks here.

Anyone on here have any experience buying a KBD75?
Got an email saying it "shipped" as of Thursday, and their website still just says that the shipment is confirmed, with no real tracking number.

Also, for LEDs, I'm going to assume I can just use 3mm through hole LEDs, do I need to add resistors to the board too, or are they already there?

>>61186308
>non-standard bottom row

AVOID, AVOID, AVOID. Unless you want to be stuck with a shitty 6.5 spacebar forever, or you like DSA, which I think has a 6.5 spacebar.

Just forget it, there's better options near $90 than Corsair shit.

>>61188347
>>61188379

That cherry profile isn't flat though, is it?

>>61189185
>>61189185

I never understood why Corsair, Razer, etc did non-standard bottom rows. Do they want to be shite?

>>61186996
ANYTHING is better than Romer-G switches. The supposed "gamer" switch are Gateron Reds, but you should really try a switch tester before you buy.

Avoid
>Razer
>Logitech
>Corsair

Buy
>Varmilo
>Filco
>Ducky

I feel like I'm forgetting a good brand.

>>61189186
it's not flat but i like cherry profile except for the spacebar. with the spacebar flipped or not flipped, it's less than ideal either way.

>>61189235

WASD Keyboards make pretty good starter ones

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>>61189214
large ctrl and alt for gaymen. similar idea as pic related

>>61189275
>>61189275

I've been gaming just fine on cherry profile for 7 years now.
I guess it's no sweat off of them, it just mean that users will have to order from them if they need replacement keycaps

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>>61189094
All you need to do is solder in the LEDs, but don't buy 3mm LEDs, they can bump against the switch and fuck up your typing, especially if you use Cherry or DSA keycaps.

Get 2x3x4mm LEDs, they fit perfectly and have zero interference with the keycap. Also I've found that their light coverage is just a little brighter than normal LEDs.

Here's a random link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x3x4mm-Water-Clear-Diffused-8-Colours-Rectangle-Square-LED-Diodes/272632454536?

>>61189349
Awesome, thanks for the link!
So the resistors for the LEDs are already in place? It's hard to find good quality pictures of the board itself.

>>61189250
Their keycaps are total crap though, and the other brands have more features than WASD.

>Leopold
That was the brand I was thinking of.

>>61189383
For the KBD75? Yes.

Most custom PCBs already have everything you need.

>>61189410
Cool, time to order these and see if these or the board itself show up first. Then try and find a good keycap set with a 1.75u right shift.

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Is this any good?
(Not a real keyboard I know)
I already have an IBM model m as my main keyboard which I really want to keep, but it's loud and people get angry at it

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>>61189433
This is coming out tomorrow if you're interested in the colorway: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set


But you won't get it for months, so if you can't wait get either of these:
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycaps-117keys?variant=36740706829

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-keycaps-dye-subbed-keycap-set-117keys?variant=35672052557

Dye-subbed EnjoyPBT for $79 is actually a really good deal that seems to be on now.

>>61189533
>79 bucks for colored plastic

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>>61189516
>Razer

Gross, might as well get a Mini Van, Planck, custom 24 pad or ErgoDox at that point.

>>61189394
>>61189394

Yeah, I'm kind of regretting these I just got. Is there any other site that can create keycap sets from templates? I have an awesome color scheme that I just got printed, but I can tell the caps themselves are not good

>>61189516

A good friend of mine got this as a gift and laughed it off as joke, but now he uses this shit religiously. Apparently it's pretty good, but I can't personally confirm this. He also says .jif so he cannot be trusted.

>>61189562
>just got into mechnical keyboards
>has no idea how bad it can get

I used to be like you, buying cheap keycaps and thinking it was enough. It's a niche of a niche and hardly any of this stuff is made any more. If you hate the price so much, go out and make your keycaps with your own machining, plenty of people are trying to do just that.

$40 for blank PBT Cherry profile keycaps is a great deal though, and are some of the best keycaps you can get.

>>61189625
It's a shame they aren't DSA

>>61189588
You'll have to be like every other faggot on Geekhack and post your own renders in an interest check until you get enough people interested to contact a manufacturer like GMK or SP to get your caps made. Then you'll have to wait a year if you're stupid enough to use SP, just to get your keycaps.

If you want good quality, you're kinda stuck with whatever's being made at the moment. What's the colorway? Something similar might have already been made.

>>61189672
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/dsa-blank-keycaps?variant=37045765261

I mean, if DSA is really your thing. I think they're way too bland and feel like chiclets on a laptop.

>>61189625
He's right though. You're all getting fucking robbed by these cheap Chinese cunts that can shit out an entire keyboard worth of caps for like $0.20. This is a clear case of hipster hype inflating the cost of something. Welcome to San Fran-keyboard.

>>61189620

I'm this guy >>61173694

I'm sure there's similar stuff, but I just kind of went crazy in inkscape when I found out they do custom caps

>>61189736
I haven't tried them actually, but they look so nice. Ideally would want to try before I buy, but I live in rural fuckass America, no one 50 miles from me knows what a mechanical keyboard even is.

>>61189736

>blanks
Guess I've gotta get my touchtyping down

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>>61189764
That looks a lot like Penumbra, one of the most sought after colorways, with prices going up to $250-$300 in both SA and Cherry profile.

Something that is kinda similar is SA Mechanist.

But you'll have to wait months before the actual groupbuy, then longer to get the actual caps, and that's after spending hundreds of dollars.

Welcome to Autism, looks like you're/we're fucked.

Why do so many cap sets have the goofy looking symbols on them? There's a bunch of sets I'd buy if it didn't have those. At the very least, why not redesign the symbols to be more proportional to and fitting with the labels?

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>>61189798
The cheapest option is to buy the blanks and try them out for yourself. It's better than buying a full Granite set for hundreds of dollars only to find out you don't like DSA.

I would advise you to stick to Cherry profile since it's mostly loved by everyone and usually seen as the best profile, but there are some people out there that actually use and love DSA, instead of the Redditors that only buy DSA to take pictures of their keyboards with.

>>61189751
look at how much a lego toy costs, and those are mostly ABS plastic, $40 including shipping for a full set of thick PBT in cherry profile is fair, and the enjoypbt dye sub isn't just your ordinary print which wears off, and if you have a standard layout keyboard there is a $52 dye sub alternative which uses the same plastic (but the dye sub is not by enjoypbt)

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/one-dye-subbed-keycap-set-104keys

Mechanical mouse when?

>>61190638
most mice are clicky already

Best brown keyboard for under 50 britbucks?

>>61186996
A fucking rubberdome is good for shooters. The only switch that's good for a genre of games is Blacks and RTS, and only because it's so heavy that accidental key presses don't happen as often.

I recommend Blues, but if you're still on the gaming keyboard meme, then get a Ducky with Cherry MX Silvers. It's the fastest switch Cherry offers, though you'll probably hate typing on it.

>>61190797
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Keyboard-GATERON-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01E6SM2XY

>>61190638
When ball mice makes a resurgence.

>>61189516
A friend of mine just got it, I tried it out at his place. Razer switches aren't particularly horrible for gaming pecking - it's not like you're going to be typing on the thing anyway. The ergonomics are actually pretty great, it's quite comfortable.

The 8-pov hat instead of a true joystick is stupid though. The twice as cheap, membrane logitech equivalent has a normal joystick, but for some reason razer cheaped out on that.

>>61190638
G900

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So is there anything I can do to make this better?

Say if I wanted to add some mech switches (it's a rather shitty rubber dome), what would that entail?

Lacking usb ports here. Therefore, looking for mechanical keyboard with usb ports so I could plug mouse to keyboard. Any advice?

>>61191204
Only two that do that off the top of my head are HHKB Pro 2 (which is arguably not mechanical, but isn't straight rubberdome either) and Das Keyboards

>>61191204
Matias Quiet Pro and Corsair K70.

>>61191204
get a usb hub

>>61191204
Klictro/Rosewill 9100/NightHawk X8 have USB and audio hubs

Where would I get a proper wooden wrist rest for a Noppoo Choc in Germany? All we seem to have is the cringy PC Master Race gel rests.

>>61191528
Not that guy but I can see why he wants a KB with an integrated (likely decent quality) USB hub. External hubs are such a crapshoot… super common to get a lemon even on well reviewed models. It's stupid.

>>61191659
You don't>>61191573

>>61191659
Aliexpress is your best bet

What is the absolute hardest switch with the loudest click money can buy?

>>61165558
shape is beautiful. colors are shit

>>61163794
link to purchase? i want to waste money on this.

>>61193584
From a pure weight standpoint honeywell hall effect micro switches came with a 300g variant. From a loudness perspective a beep speak terminal keyboard or a beam spring with the solenoid turned on are the loudest. However these aren't switch mechanism, rather external noises. If you're talking about a pure heavy and loud switch then omron amblers would be the switch to get as they are heavier then a beam spring, and only slightly quieter

>>61193584
>loudest click
I don't think you can do better that capacitive buckling spring
>hardest
Unmodded, you'll probably want cherry mx super blacks, at 150+ grams. (Bear in mind that they have been out of production for 5 years, and were only ever used in a few keyboards, and then only for a couple of keys in those keyboards, so finding enough of them for a full set might not exactly be an easy task.)

If you count modded, you can literally stick any spring you want into a random cherry switch. You could even place a cylinder from solid osmium carbide or something in the switch as a "spring".

>>61193755
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set

>>61163166
JUST bought cm masterkey L on a whim

And I just checked the shipping date..

3-5 months.

What the fuck? Didn't this just get released?

What keycaps work for nonstandard keyboards? Need it for my magicfoce. I heard the board I'm getting has 3 1u and 1.75u, I don't know what sets to buy.

>>61194597
You have to buy custom keycaps in the $100 range, or just use blanks (though it can still be kinda hard).

The new Nautilus keycap set coming out tomorrow has all the keys you need in the bass kit for $100-ish.

Here's your cheapest option for $40: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-blank-keycaps-117keys?variant=36740706829

>>61194597
I thought the magic force 68 had standard size keys?

>>61194745
Thanks for the goods anon. So I can buy any keycap set as long if it's from >= 87 keycap set?

>>61194805
I'm using the 75% variant one anon.

>>61194894
It's not that easy, you just have to keep an eye out for the correct keys, and make sure they're in the right profile layer. Like you could use 1u keys from row 1 like "esc" to use for the bottom row, but it'll feel all sorts of wrong.

Make sure the size and row profile are the same. If you want legends, you're stuck with getting $100 key sets that rarely have groupbuys and usually only come once in a lifetime.

Budget
150-250
>Location (continent at least)
United States
>Preferred switch type
quiet ones
>Layout
60%
>Form factor
ANSI
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
Apple G3 keyboard
I wanna build this one so if I could get a parts list to buy I'd appreciate it.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ducky-shine-4-fire-69-series-6-colour-led-9-switches-usb-gaming-keyboard-kb-21z-dk.html

Y/N

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>>61195045
>alphas are Cherry Green
>numpad is Cherry Red
>modifiers are Cherry Blue instead of Green
>function keys are tactile for whatever reason

This makes absolutely no fucking sense and it seems like they just randomly threw a bunch of switches all over the place until all 9 Cherry switches were used.

Avoid like the plague, this looks fucking horrible.

any good membrane keyboards for the office? i don't really want to bring in a mechanical keyboard because of the noise and topres would be out of my price range.

are there membrane keyboards with pbt keycaps? I hate the greasy feeling that keyboards get over time, but I've had my pbt keycaps for 3-4 years and they still feel great

>>61195390
The model M is the greatest membrane keyboard ever made. If you want to try out topres then get the noppoo clones for half the price

>>61189235
What makes the romers so bad?

>>61193584
Probably the Matias Tactile Pro. Even compared to my Unicomp, the Matias is fucking loud and stiff, though the spotty switch quality assurance has something to do with it.

>>61195968
What's good about them? Besides being a shitty version of Cherry MX Browns (which are pretty shitty already), the shorter actuation that supposedly appeals to gamerfags is beaten by the Cherry MX Silver.

>>61196060
I honestly don't know anything about them outside of people on amazon raving about them, that's why I asked.

>>61195968
they feel no better than a rubber dome

>>61195968
Having two separate leaf contacts leads to all sorts of key chatter issues which is ironic considering it's a "gamer" switch. And of course the biggest issue is that it doesn't have Cherry stems, so there's absolutely no way to swap out from the incredibly bad cheap ABS keycaps that Logitech gives you.

It's a poorly made switch specifically designed around putting an LED in the middle of it to get the ultimate G4M3R SHINE-THROUGH. There's a hundred better keyboards for lower prices, and honestly, a Razer keyboard with their crappy switches are better than Romer-G.

Logitech just hopes you're dumb enough to buy their keyboards because you want to get something to match your well-made Logitech mouse.

>>61163711
Ye. Get a pbt keycap set

>>61195101
>start off with green because it's exotic
>blue is pressed by the weaker fingers
>numpad is red so it gets that numpad feeling
>throw in random switches for the rest
Not that illogical when you think about it.

>>61196380
>Ducky has a shit ton of extra switches they need to sell, especially Cherry Green
>only one Cherry Brown switch because they need to use them for best sellers

Yea, makes sense to me. Chinks gonna Chink.

>>61195101
Righto

So if I want a mechanical keyboard for general use and average game playing, should I go for blue (https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ducky-zero-sz-mechanical-keyboard-blue-cherry-mx-switch-blue-led-uk-kb-21p-dk.html) or red (https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ducky-zero-sz-mechanical-keyboard-red-cherry-mx-switch-blue-led-uk-kb-21q-dk.html)?

I read the guide, but both types seem like worthwhile choices.

>>61184244
k... desu the razer ornata has the best key ever made, and that fucking hurt to says being an ex-employee of razer and consequent hater of their peripherals with a fiery passion.

>>61196563
*say and *subsequent. fuck im tired

>>61196357
>Logitech just hopes you're dumb enough to buy their keyboards because you want to get something to match your well-made Logitech mouse.

Their mice is high quality, but they can't design a good shape to save their lives. The shapes that people do like they discontinue.

>>61196623
agree. however the g502 and moreso the g403 are showing that they're learning. they're comfy as hell.

>>61196529
Buy a switch tester, I found that I actually enjoy tactile switches like Cherry Clears and MOD-Ms over everything else. It's smarter to waste $10-$20 on a tester instead of $100 on a keyboard you don't like.

That being said, a lot of people don't like Cherry Blues for gaming because you can't double tap properly because of the actuation, and a lot of people don't like the Cherry Reds for typing because their lack of resistance leads to accidentally hitting keys.

Ducky is a good brand, but if you're going for Ducky, you should really be on the look for something with PBT keycaps too; makes a big difference.

Something like this (I know you're UK, so good luck): https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1557

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>>61196623
>the G500 will never be made again

>>61196720
All new ducky One keyboards come with PBT keycaps, either dye sub or doubleshot.

>Budget
<$125
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
clicky, I guess; I like my mx blues but if you guys suggest buying a switch tester first, I will.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form Factor
100%
>Backlight
Don't care
>Previous/current keyboard
Blackwidow w/ Cherry MX Blues & o-rings
The W and S keys occasionally do not register.

On Amazon, I've been looking at the Velocifire VM70 (MX Blue) for $66, Rosewill RK-9000V2 or RK-9300(backlit) for $80, Tomoko 104 for $50, Plugable 104 for $50, and the Quickfire TK for $110. I'm also considering Ducky keyboards such as the One and Zero Shine for $110 and $100 respectively.

What would you guys pick from this list? Is there something better that I haven't looked at? Can I live without the numpad if I frequently use it for stuff like long passwords and credit cards?

>>61197362
Of the ones you've listed, Ducky One, since they come stock with PBT keycaps that won't develop a greasy shine after a month.

>Can I live without the numpad if I frequently use it for stuff like long passwords and credit cards?
Unless you do a lot of calculations on Excel, the lack of a 10-key won't be too noticeable. Typing in credit card numbers might get annoying, but honestly you shouldn't be doing that too often.

>>61197362
If you like your numpad, you're only gonna miss it when you go 60%.

If you haven't bought a switch tester, you might as well, unless you just want a clicky switch, in which case the Cherry Blue is usually the best you're gonna get (unless you really wanna go heavy).

All the chink boards you can ignore, like the Plugable (disgusting Reddit trash) and Tomoko. Velocifire and Rosewill look decent, but the Velocifire doesn't have a steel plate, and I forget if the Rosewill has a plate.

Ducky is a great choice, just make sure they come with PBT caps so you don't have to buy new caps.

I you want other brands, look at Varmilo, Filco, and Leopold.

>>61197431
Thanks for the advice mates, the extra space has been pretty attractive to me. I also used to use my numpad for extra keybindings in games like gmod, but I guess that's not too important anymore. I need to practice touch typing with regular numbers anyways.

I think I'll go with the Ducky One TKL w/ PBT. I'm eyeing one with side printing. It looks sexy as hell and has some Chinese radicals(?) as well, which might be relevant since I'll probably study Chinese when I go into uni.

>>61196646
>g502
>comfy
So you cut your pinky then.

>>61194597
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Cherry-Profile-Thick-PBT-84-Side-printed-Keyset-Key-caps-For-MX-Mechanical-Keyboard-Keycool/32801326548.html
or enjoypbt 117 keys

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