/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>61100032
Thanks for the tasteful image OP.

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Find a flaw.

>>61100060
It's so good that it causes massive butthurt which leads to /hpg/ shitposting.

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>>61100060
Proprietary plug. Ugly pattern. Shitty polycarbonate headband. Boring sound signature.

Does anyone still care about the K7XX and TH-X00? The non-detachable cable with the Fostex might be a dealbreaker for me though.

i'm itching to buy either one even though I didn't care about either one back then. I knew I wouldn't be getting the HD6XX until Christmas and I thought I would be fine with it, but my consumerist desire wants a new headphone to pair with the HD6XX as a massdrop twin or whatever.


are there any other recommended items from Massdrop?

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>>61100060
hey guys remember me?

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>>61100060
That resolution.

>>61100100
>people actually used to recommend these bass cannons

>>61100060
*snaps*

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What should I buy if I should buy akg k612 but I don't want to?

>>61100140
I don't know if you should buy, but you should buy if you don't know.

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>>61100140
Beats.

>>61100120
people still recommend the DT880s so go figure.

i really hope my tinnitus goes away if I get an ear flush..

>>61100166
Why haven't you already bought an earwax removal syringe at a local drug store and used it?

>>61100172
I thought it was something like a few drops of mineral oil at bedtime for a few days then syringe? Would a one-day procedure work as great? I was also under the impression that the syringe was done by a doctor or nurse so I'm a bit scared of doing it myself.

Should I even get my hopes had if I had this ringing for at least 6 years or something already?

>>61100120
They used to be only $100. At that price range there were no better closed 'phones.

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>>61100251
And now these exist and they're open.

>>61100326
Sure, it was years ago that that was the case. There are now better alternatives for both open and closed 'phones in that price range.

>>61100336
It's nice that random companies come up with good and cheap alternatives to popular and overpriced stuff sometimes. I wish the same would happen in the CPU and GPU industry.

>>61100361
>I wish the same would happen in the CPU and GPU industry.

That's a whole other ball game compared to plastic headphones. Hell of a cost of entry in that market, which is why you only have 2 or 3 players in it essentially. Best you can hope for now is that competition drives those few players to give a shit and make good/inexpensive hardware.

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>>61100220
Just get one like this that shoots at angles instead of directly into the ear canal. They sell them at most drug stores. I use these frequently because I produce above average earwax amounts. You have nothing to be afraid of. I use them at least once a month and I've never injured myself with them. You just fill it with body temperature water (so you don't get dizzy), stick it in your ear with your ear pointed down over the sink, then depress the plunger rapidly to shoot it in your ear. Repeat until chunks of wax no longer come out into the sink. You don't need to use drops of oil or anything like that. Repeated syringe use will get all the wax out; it always works for me.
These syringes are a lot safer than a fucking super soaker, which a doctor successfully used in Africa without injuring the patient: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1316180/
You have nothing to worry about. The syringe will work and will not injure you.

>>61100251
I'd argue V6s were always better.

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>>61100393
>We feel that prospective randomized trials are warranted to evaluate the utility of the Super Soaker Max-D 5000 in clinical settings.
Holy shit, my sides.

>>61100393
i'll take a look at what the pharmacy near me has. can't imagine what sort of build up I must have by now with only using Q-tips

>>61100500
Just be sure to drain your ears thoroughly after using it to prevent swimmer's ear. Lay on each side with a tissue under your ear for about five minutes per side after doing the syringe.

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>>61100032
I got some Photive PH-BTH3s, what ear pads are compatible with these?

I want something a bit more cushy and hopefully not pleather as summer's coming and heat and pleather don't mix well on skin.

And for future reference and for the other headphones I have, what are ways of measuring/finding ear pads for your headphones?

My 598 just arrived and it sounded underwhelming as fuck with the 6.3mm to 3.5 adapter, I tried it with a replacement cable that doesn't require an adapter (3.5mm/2.5mm) and now it sounds much better. Is this expected?

>>61100775
>Is this expected?
Must be a cable impedance issue.

>>61100775
>>61100888
Also, describe the difference in sound.

>>61100060
>S N A P

>>61100888
>>61100894
I did some further testing and could reproduce the same problem w/ the replacement cable as well when twisting around the 3.5mm connector.

>describe the difference in sound.
low volume on one side, nonexistent bass, sometimes no lyrics (kek)

>cable impedance issue
what do? thanks anons.

>>61101073
After reading your further information I can say that's not a cable impedance issue.
>when twisting around the 3.5mm connector.
At which end? The end that goes into the headphones or the end that goes into your audio source?

>>61101121
audio source (PC). I own an X2 as well and never had this problem.

>>61100075
>Butthurt
>Not everyone tired of the massive shilling

>>61101192
If two separate cables produce the same problem when twisting the connector inside your PC's audio jack that suggests a loose solder connecting your PC's audio jack to your motherboard or soundcard. You probably first noticed it with the adapter because non-right-angle adapters lead to a lot of downward force being applied by the hanging cable, which acts like a lever, pushing the female jack upwards. That's why I always recommend right angle adapters. Anyways, that's not a problem with your new headphones. If you're handy with a soldering iron you might be able to fix your PC's audio jack.

I'm looking for headphones to complement my hd650 under $400, currently thinking on the k712 but would like other recommendations

>>61101192
>I own an X2 as well and never had this problem.
I believe that has a 3.5mm jack on the end of its cable, meaning you weren't using an adapter up until now. Using the non-right-angle adapter may have literally loosened a solder connecting your headphone jack to your mobo/soundcard. Again, that's why I always recommend right-angle adapters, because non-right-angle 6.3 to 3.5mm adapters literally break headphone jacks.

https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-MHE-100-5-Right-Angle-Headphone-Adaptor/dp/B000068O6B/ these are the proper kind of 6.3mm to 3.5mm stereo adapters to use. These don't break headphone jacks.

>>61101285
I think you're right about the problem being broken jacks, but it's odd because I just tested an X2 and cannot reproduce the issue at all even when applying a bit of force on the connector. 598 in comparison seems way to sensitive.

>>61101360
I think the chances of both of the cables you're using with the 598 being faulty are slim, but you should probably test the 598 with both cables in a different source for the sake of thorough troubleshooting. You have a phone you can test this with, right? It's definitely not your new headphones. It's either your PC jack or both 598 cables are faulty.

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>>61101380
I figured it out. Both cables and the headphones seem fine. The problem was a combination of the adapter keep slipping out a tiny bit (because of its weight, as you suspected), and my weak ass arms being unable to plug in the cable fully into the audio source, which is why the same issues happened with the replacement cable.

Thanks again anon, I'll donate to EFF on your behalf.

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?
>>61100052
Thank you, that's quite interesting.

Hey, I'm the anon from a little while back who was looking at a new headset.
I got my HD 558 in, and it doesn't have a volume wheel. I'm going to end up sending them back, but does the senheiser 558 not actually have a volume control or did I get a bad pair?

>>61104104
>volume knob on a set of headphones
What? Are you mentally challenged?

I'm moving around quite a bit so I'm in need for some wireless headphones. I've seen that currently the sennheiser RS165 are on sale for 135€. Anyone ever tried those? I want to spend like 150€ tops.

>want to buy HD600
>want to listen to them before spending shekels
>no shop anywhere near me seels them
>need to travel at least 100km
Why is this allowed?

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>>61104173
I mean something to adjust it.


And I'm stupid, that's what the boompro was for.

>>61104300
Ehh, usually high-end headphones are to be used with something that allows you to control the volume easily like an amp or pre-amp. How are you driving the headphones?

>>61100032
Does anyone have an issue with Win10 and an external DAC/Amp being extremely loud?

Using a Magni 2 uber and Modi 2 uber. Have windows volume at 15-25% and Magni at max 11:00. Yes it's not set on hi gain.

>>61104104
WTF, get a Schiit Fulla 2 bro.

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>>61104300
Also, your boompro would work with a phone since most phones have support for a TRRS configuration 3.5mm jack, but most computers do not have support for TRRS and only support TRS, meaning no volume control.

>>61104347
What headphones? uber stack, gain low, HD600, Windows 10 at 100%, 8-12 o'clock is reasonable listening volume most of the time, whereas 12+ is loud.

>>61104389
I have a k702 and k712 on hand.

>>61104321
Yeah, that's what I'd think too, but it only had a chord.
>>61104367
I wish you were here several threads ago to tell me then. I got a pretty big consensus that the 558's are the best choice, and to tell the truth, it seems to work, and the boompro fixes the need for that
>>61104381
sorry, you mean phone like headphone right? Could that depend on the Motherboard, too?


BTW to everyone concerned I'm using Realtek to adjust, and the slider on the boompro for on the fly volume

>>61104439
>I got a pretty big consensus that the 558's are the best choice, and to tell the truth, it seems to work, and the boompro fixes the need for that
Good. The HD558 is indeed very good value/money.

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>>61104439
Yeah, the Fulla 2 is where it's at for driving entry level 'high-end' headphones such as yours. If you have the Fulla, it eliminates the need for the BoomPro and any problems that come with TRRS. The support for TRRS does depend on the motherboard, but for headphones like that you shouldn't be using the audio from your motherboard at all, an external DAC/Amp like the Fulla 2 is far superior in audio quality and practicality. Even this lowest DAC/Amps like the FiiO E10K is superior to on-board audio.

>>61104454
The only real issue I'm having right now is it sounds, for a lack of better words, floaty. I did the mod removing the foam, so I'm not sure if it's a matter of that or something else
>>61104510
The point of the boompro was also for the microphone, i wanted a headset mic, and this offered the best of both worlds for a good price

>>61104510
Not him but I had the fiio e10k with dt 990 pro 250 ohm and they weren't strong enough to drive them. Especially when I was listening to music that had more bass in it you could audibly hear how the music got more quiet every time there was a bit more bass.

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>>61104526
You probably could've gotten a USB microphone for the same price and then the DAC/amp, but if you find the BoomPro to be more convenient then it's up to you.

>>61104532
That's typical when it's only getting its power from the 5V USB standard, but if the E10K couldn't drive them, then I wager that the mobo audio couldn't either. That's why it's probably best to buy a decent amp first and upgrade your headphones as need be without ever needing to upgrade the amp.

>>61104553
I do, it's more familiar too. I find this more akin to the many I've had before, and I don't have to worry about it falling over like my previous desk mic. I got these headphones just in time too, I'm leaving to the bahamas today

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>>61104584
Well, have fun with your tropical vacation while enjoying some good headphones.

>>61104510
Sure, but for the budget of HD558+amp/dac, it makes more sense to get better headphones, like HD579.

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>>61104612
Thanks, I may end up leaving them here, I really don't want them to get ruined, and since the only way I'll be able to listen to music is via cellphone, I'll probably use an old pair I got hidden away. It's gonna be a long two weeks

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Why is the low IQ riffraff so obsessed with bass?

>>61104700
Big boom boom leaves little to think about or comprehend, and normally blocks out things niggers dislike such as words aka lyrics.

>>61104741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqV7DB8Iwg

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>>61104700
>unironically using the term riffraff

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>>61100060

>Budget: 300€
>Location: Europe
>Source: PC
>Type of headphone: Full-Sized
>Open or closed: Closed
>Comfort level: comfy over quality
>Sound signature: V shaped or Mid forward
>Past headphones: ath m50x, hd 598, fidelio x2, ath msr7

>>61106349
>Sound signature: V shaped or Mid forward
Aren't V-shape and mid forward exact opposite signatures?
How about DT770? V-shape, good build and comfy as fuck.

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>>61106052

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>>61106687
I wish I would've seen this earlier. Man fuck beyerdynamics.

>>61106738
>piss bottles
>greasy keyboard

sasuga beyer owners

>>61106493
Yes they are the exact opposite, but I like all low/high or all mid not some balanced shit

>>61106891
>low/high
DT770 has excellent bass, it's tighter than your average loli's first time chinese cartoon experience and highs can be sharp but if you like MSR7 you won't have a problem.
Get the 250 Ohm version and invest the rest in an amp like O2, Schiit Fulla 2 or Magni/Modi (always forget which one is the amp part because shit's always stacked).

rock zircons or kz zs5?

>>61106968
>bass
Sigh, riffraff.

Amp/dac combo that's capable of driving 250 ohm dt990's and HD600s? I could maybe settle for just an amp because I have a shitty dac but I would much prefer a desktop dac/amp.
$150 USD is my price range.
If optical in is superior to USB then I want that. Can't be powered by USB though no way that will output enough power. The fulla 2 isn't capable of driving the beyers well, I tried that at my friend's house. My 1.2 vrm dragonfly black is also incapable of driving them well. So more power than either of those.

>>61104700
>>61106968
>bass
lel

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>>61107075
>>61107104
>riffraff
>anything below 100Hz is bad

>>61107181
>insists on bass
ooga booga go back to africa.

>>61107203
He asked for V-shape and there's good and bad bass you autistic retard.

>>61107244
>there's good and bad bass
You mean, like... fast?

>>61100060
lack of bass extension, bass could be tighter and punchier. it's also veiled, though mildly enough that it's hard to notice.

hd600 owner btw.

>>61107098
>Amp/dac combo that's capable of driving 250 ohm dt990's and HD600s? I could maybe settle for just an amp because I have a shitty dac but I would much prefer a desktop dac/amp.
>$150 USD is my price range.
If you have a DAC already, go Magni 2.
That has plenty of room, in power budget.

>>61107270
>it's also veiled,
Are you not using a dedicated headphone amp?
Their midrange should be excellent, if you get anything else that'd suggest issues.

>>61107267
>good bass
DT770, MSR7, Zircon, etc.
>bad bass
Beats, MDR-1A, Bose, etc.

>>61107312
>list of headphones with bad/good bass
Can you describe what makes bass good?

>>61107359
Speed

>>61107457
What makes bass... fast?

>>61107359
Entirely subjective. I like tight, punchy, fast quality bass that optimally extends very low and quantity is nice to have but not the deciding factor.
Bad bass will bleed into the mids and sound like your headphones shove diarrhea into your ears (aka beats).
Bad bass ususally has problems keeping up with the speed of the music and seperation of low end notes or it's completely overloaded mid bass.

DT770 have a lot of bass but it's not bloated or muddy and also has good extension, that's nice. Can be too much for solely music if you're used to veiled headphones w/o bass but it's awesome for movies and gaymen.
MSR7 is just.. it's there. It's not too much, it's tight, fast, extension could be better but whatever. MSR7 are perfect, zero mud/bloat. Easily the best purchase this year.
Rock Zircons, if i remember correctly they are somewhat similar to DT770. Mine broke too long ago and i didn't buy a replacement.

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>>61100140
q701

>>61100088
th-x0, though you missed it.

>>61100393
can confirm. use hydrogen-peroxide based drops, let them sit for a while, then flush your ears. make sure the syringe tip will not injure you, so a soft flexible tip or one that can't go deep. I did this for impacted ear wax, which sucks by the way and is much worse than waxy ears but thankfully not painful (usually). I felt like it was not working because my hearing was not immediately restored but I just kept with it and I could tell the blockage was getting broken up a bit. on the 3rd day my hearing was restored. by the 5th day my hearing was better than it had been in a while. don't try and force it, just keep with it.

>>61107359
balance, impact, tightness and not bleeding into the mids. also no audible distortion and/or resonances.

>>61107310
yes I'm using an amp. the mids are amazing, but like the 598 it still has a slight veil in the upper mids into the highs that prevents it sounding as detailed and airy as my AKG. I don't like beyer treble spikes but I wish I could split the difference between the hd600 and q701. but hey it's a "laid back" headphone and probably the best of that kind, for open anyways. just my preference in sound, but I think people who say the 600 is perfect in every part of the FR are wrong.

>>61107517
Do you have anything higher end, such as HD600?
What about k712 and such?

>>61107477
Magnitude and phase response

>fast bass

It's like I'm on Head-Fi.

>>61107564
This thread is getting worse and worse.

>>61107541
No but HD600 is on my list. I don't have time to go around listening to and shopping for new headphones right now but soon i will.
Idk if i will like the "Sennheiser veil" though and what about K712? I also consider MSR7 higher end, they just sound amazing.

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>>61100088
>who cares about...
I do. I prefer the k7xx over the 6xx and if the non detachable cable is a issue on the thx00 then make it detachable

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>>61106052
>>61106687
>Beyeremorse vs mudheiser
My time machine works!

>>61107614
>I prefer the k7xx over the 6xx
That's massdrop for k712, right?
I'm considering k712 just to fuck around, as an alternative to my HD600.
How is it?

>>61107612
The Sennheiser veil isn't real. The HD600 is slightly bright.

>>61106349
DT660 is extremely mid-forward. A hidden gem that's not well known.

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>>61106687
Can confirm. The plastic things on my DT990 look like those too.

>>61107283
Man, I knew someone would say that. Look, I'll do it if I have to. I have a few questions though that I'm hoping someone can help me out with.
1. Tube amps are very affordable and the idea of warming up the 990s is very appealing. Will they be able to output more power than my dragonfly(1.2vrm)?
2. The dragonfly is my dac, it can act as one if you set it's volume to 100. If I choose just a amp like the magni what am I missing out on?
3. Is the magni really my only option? Is there no dac/amp combo in the same price range?

>>61107686
I forgot to tell you earlier:

Enter code 'HPGPAJEET' for 10% discount on all Schiit products.

>>61107686
>1. Tube amps are very affordable and the idea of warming up the 990s is very appealing. Will they be able to output more power than my dragonfly(1.2vrm)?
See specs of the amp. Compare. If it has no specs, don't even bother looking at the amp. Schiit makes some tube amps, if you feel like trying tubes out.
>If I choose just a amp like the magni what am I missing out on?
Nothing. Your DAC should work just fine with the magni.
>3. Is the magni really my only option? Is there no dac/amp combo in the same price range?
You want a lot of power for some reason, which leaves fulla2 and o2/odac out.

>>61107704
>promo codes @ schiit
Schiit doesn't do promo codes or sales.
What they do is sell b-grade items at a lower price sometimes. Those might have scratches or such in their metal body, but will function well to spec.

>>61107746
The shilling is real.

>>61107756
>shilling
Schiit doesn't pay shills.
What they do is post a lot in SBAF and head-fi.
One of the cofounders also owns a marketing company... they know their shit.

>>61107723
Am I not justified in wanting this much power? I know the dt990s aren't particularly difficult to drive but the dragonfly can just barely hit a good listening volume at 100%, my on board with my gaymen motherboard is actually slightly louder. I just want something that can comfortably drive them.
The modi 2 outputs more power with out an amp than my current shit does.
They have magni bstock for 89 which is pretty good I suppose. It's about 5 times more powerful than the fulla 2.

>>61107803
>Volume
What you want is gain.
Power will let the gain be effectively reached, but unlikely to be a concern
>magni 2
Has a gain switch, and at high it's PLENTY.

>>61107803
>magni bstock for 89
Isn't a-stock magni2 99?

>>61107835
89 son

>>61104247
>want to listen to them before spending shekels
Don't bother. These are good period.
You've probably never heard anything good before, so there's no way you'd properly appreciate it in the shop.

>>61108493
>You've probably never heard anything good before
I consider MSR7 and DT880 good and can't buy the HD600 now anyways because i have nothing to power them with.
My PC should power them without any issues whatsoever but since i sold my GPU to miners and are waitingforvega(TM) now i will have to wait.
Might as well wait until the next time i can go to some hifi shop and give them a listen before buying and realising Sennheiser veil is true and people here are just shills.

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Anyone having any experience with using those on a computer for movies, games and music? I'm searching for wireless headphones specifically and those are on sale.

>>61108615
Seriously, 10 minute test won't tell you shit, particularly true if you're not comfortably at home with your music and amp/dac/whatever equipment.

>>61108744
>10 minute
Who said anything about 10 minutes? I highly disagree with testing doesn't tell you shit, it does, it's called a first impression.
>if you're not comfortably at home with your music and amp/dac/whatever equipment
I am comfortable it's just temporary due to the mining craze. My PC has no issues with my 250 Ohm headphones so HD600 should be fine and even if that's not the case, I am prepared to buy an amp or an amp/DAC combo like the Schiit stack.

Any recommendation on a DAC that costs as high as USD2000 just for powering my headphones? DACs with headphone output preferred, but without the output is also fine.
I have a Fostex TH900 and a Beyer DT880, and I want DAC to sound neutral and clean.

>>61108814
>just for powering my headphones
Do you mean an amp?

>>61108852
Maybe an amp is fine too because I have an Antelope Zodiac Silver which is still satisfying in terms of sound quality. But I just want some opinions if I should buy one of the latest DACs with TOTL DAC chip and even well-designed headamp section...
Or maybe I am just a little bit lost that I should have a dedicated headamp like Meier Corda Classic or Violectric V280 before I make the decision of throwing my old DAC away.

>>61108676
Why would you buy wireless headphones for using at the computer?

>>61108950
Just get a Schiit Stack (Magnjw/Modi2). It's all you'll ever need.

>>61108980
I have my computer hooked up to my TV. It's just too much of a hassle when I'm lying in bed and want to watch something on a big screen when there's cables everywhere.

>>61100060
it's so bad shitposters have to damage control every day

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i need some help deciding, for movies and games should i buy the X2 or the k712?
i currently use the HD650 for music but would like something with more soundstage but not to exaggerated
thanks!

>>61109285
I want to punch a loli in the face.

So I was thinking of getting a DT 770 with a FiiO E10K.

What is the difference between the 80ohm and 250ohm DT 770 and is the E10K overkill?

>>61109530
>is the E10K overkill
Nope.
>What is the difference vetween the 80ohm and 250ohm
Power sensitivity.

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How should I put my old headset mic on these? I thought about putting mini magnets so I can take mic off when I don't need it.

>>61104678
You don't need to get a Fulla 2 unless your current source is not loud enough or hissy. Also, I don't know if the BoomPro's volume control is digital or analog, but if it's analog it should work PC and phone.

>>61107535
IMO a slightly laid back signature is ideal for those who never want to bother with EQ of any kind because some audio sources can be mastered very brightly and I personally abhor treble-related listening fatigue. That being said, personally, I EQ all of my gear to neutrality and sometimes even take the time to permanently EQ albums in an audio editor when I don't like the way their mastering sounds.

>>61107686
If you want to warm up your headphones use free EQ, not tubes, which will cause your amp to be less reliable.

>>61110489
How do you EQ your cables?

>>61107803
You're completely justified in wanting a lot of gain because sources mastered at a really low level exist, and if you want to get into EQ then you need even more gain for said sources. A lot of headroom is a great thing to have.

>>61107637
>That's massdrop for k712, right?
No. K7XX is not the same as the K712. K7XX is significantly bassier, and much worse in my opinion. Get a K612 instead, or just save for the K712.

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>>61110544
Machina Dynamica's Brilliant Pebbles

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>>61100060
/thread

>>61109008
You should be aware of the primary drawback of most wireless headphones: wireless headphones that use lossy transmission methods will lead to audible lossy artifacts when playing lossy audio because of stacking lossy codecs. That being said, it looks like that particular model uses uncompressed RF transmission which comes with its own drawback, namely radio frequency interference. If you think the convenience outweighs these drawbacks then enjoy your wireless headphones. You should also be aware, though, that in general you're not going to get the same price/performance ratio as you would with wired headphones since you're paying for headphones, an amp and a dac simultaneously when you buy wireless headphones.

>>61110693
>treble cannons
HD600 is better without EQ.

>>61110693

I heard the HD800 out of some guy's valve amp and they sound bloody amazing. It's hard to describe in words but they make every instrument and vocal to have their own specific space in the track, which my HD600 cannot replicate in the same setup unfortunately.

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>>61110693
>metal headband
I wonder if that can snap, too..

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>budget
250 euro
>location
Europe
>sound signature
Bassy
>comfort level
Comfy af because i will use it all day
>source
Pc, phone samsung s6, laptop

If i get the hd6xx how would it perform plugging it in on phone? I cant rly decide please help senpais

>>61110828
>they make every instrument and vocal to have their own specific space in the track
Angled earpads and/or drivers and especially large drivers with a lot of surface area create this effect. Seek out headphones with these properties if you're keen on this effect.

>>61110828
Hd800 are very close to the diffuse field target so they sound natural but brighter

>>61110934
Closed home -> DT770
Close portable -> MDR-1A
Open -> Fidelio X2

>>61110489
Do you just EQ by ear or do you have a mic? It's always interesting to hear how people EQ. I personally have a measurement mic for overall tonality and lower peaks/dips, and use a sine wave for peaks/dips in the highs. Works pretty well.

>>61110693
>muddy mid-bass
>recessed upper midrange
>treble spike of death

They sound like $5 headphones.

Has anyone tried the hifiman 400s with the hm5 pads?, Do the sound really becomes more neutral?

>>61111070
>Hd800 are very close to the diffuse field target so they sound natural but brighter
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

They're not. Even the HD650 and HD598 is more diffuse field than the HD800.

HD800 is literally garbage without EQ.

>>61111222
Mic for up to 1,000 Hz or so, online measurements for reference and sine wave for highs.

>>61111247
HM5 pads are shit on the 400S/i. They're too small, and you'll get resonance.

Why do manufacturers like Sennheiser stick with dynamic drivers when planar magnetic drivers are "superior"?

>>61111513
I have yet to see a high-end planar magnetic headphone that isn't complete shit when it comes to reliability.

>>61111513
Planars aren't superior. They're different. All driver technologies have their own issues.

Are the engineers at Beyerdynamic deaf or something? Who actually enjoys having ear raping treble in headphones? Why do they tune their products with so much treble?

>>61111513
the only good planar is lcd-1, everything else is pure shit

>>61111678
Probably people who don't enjoy veiled ass headphones.

>>61111678
Maybe they're over 40

>>61100060
160 posts later and nobody was able to find a flaw.

>budget
$100
>location
US
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Overear
>Open or closed
Either is fine
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
I don't know enough to have a preference.

>>61106052
>falling for the German build quality meme
They are no better than China, using basic heavy materials to mask quality.
>actually thinking beyers are comfy
They clamp harder than the 600 and weigh even more, with thin head padding not to mention the fucking sea anchor of a cable that tugs the left side of your head.
I own both and I only prefer the 880 for the velour pads

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>Snap.

>>61112136
Philips SHP9500.

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>>61111678
>Who actually enjoys having ear raping treble in headphones?
I despise treble heavy headphones. They sound sibilant, fatiguing and are straight up shit.

>>61112164
Thanks

>>61110160
bump

>>61112136
MDR-7506, the industry standard.

>>61112136
HD558

>>61110428
Yeah the control is fine

>>61112136
easily hd558

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>buy mudheiser
>shit veiled sound
>headband snaps on you
>get killed by snapheiser

>>61112279
>>61112294
Where should I buy them?

>>61112399
Amazon

>>61112433
A bunch of reviews say it isn't a 3.5mm plug.

>>61112458
That's correct. Buy this with it and use this instead of the included adapter since non-right-angle adapters can break headphone jacks: https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-MHE-100-5-Right-Angle-Headphone-Adaptor/dp/B000068O6B/

>>61112399
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004FEEY9A

>>61112458
It has a 3.5mm adapter for the 1/4 inch plug.

Could also swap out the cable if you prefer: https://www.amazon.com/NewFantasia-LYSB00KAKBHKM-ELECTRNCS-Replacement-Sennheiser-Headphones/dp/B00KAKBHKM/

So why is the x2 dead now? Back in the day everyone was jizzing over it

Are these worth it? I have an autistic need for the microphone to be non-detachable. I also have very little money.
https://www.amazon.com/LOGITECH-G430-DTS-Headphone-981-000536/dp/B00CQ35C1Q

>>61112562
Because Snapheiser shills flooded the board.

>>61112562
Haven't you seen the measurements of it?

Wondering if you all could help me with this problem.
I'm using the Fulla 2 as a preamp for my HS5's, but there's a constant hissing from them. I've tried multiple 3.5 to split 1/4's, usb cables, tried powering the Fulla from another source. The hiss is also there with fixed and variable output, but not there when using headphones.

Anyone know what the problem could be?

Which ones I should get for gaming+music

Superlux hd 662 Evo or hd 681 or some else superlux?

I heard open models are better for gaming.

>>61112799
Active speakers all have some hiss. The hiss is especially noticeable when you crank the volume up high.

That said, you shouldn't be hearing much hiss at low volumes.

>>61112589
Put the mic on your desk.
>>61112802
Usually they are. I've had the 681's and they're fucking phenominal with competitive shooters like CSGO.

>>61112802
HD 681 (the red ring one, not the Evo) with aftermarket velour pads, or Samson SR850

>>61112854
You seem to have misunderstood my autism. The microphone needs to be attached to the headphones and it needs to not come off.

>>61106687
what the heck, people were recommending beyerdynamics all the time here

I'd never buy a headphone over $200 without a detachable cable but still, I was pretty close to almost deciding to get a DT880.

what does /hpg/ think about AKGs now? Seems like people are just spamming HD600s now

>>61112589
It's a complete piece of crap. If you absolutely need a headset, get a HyperX Cloud Core.

>>61107614
>then make it detachable
neat

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>>61112917
>Seems like people are just spamming HD600s now
DELED DIS

>HD6XX
>only 4349 purchased
gee i sure feel silly now waking up early in the morning just to get it first minute

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>>61112917

>>61112871
Can you recommend me velour pads for these 681?
>>61112854
thanks for your input also, I'm going for 681. I can get them 20€ shipped in my local store!

>>61113029
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Velour-Velvet-Ear-Pads-Cushion-Superlux-HD-HMD-Series-Pro-Studio-Headphones-/261643450065

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>>61107615
That is a pretty neat setup.

>>61112906
That's autistic

>>61112846
>That said, you shouldn't be hearing much hiss at low volumes
It's very noticeable, can be heard even if I lower the volume on the speakers, and the volume of the hissing doesn't change if I adjust the volume on the Fulla.

>>61107614
is this the holy trinity now

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>This is Beyer's """flagship""" headphone

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61112917
AKGs are treble cannons: >>61112173

>>61113140
>>61113116
>fails shitpost
>has to redo it with pic
Snapheiser shills are this pathetic.

>Budget
<$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone or Fiio E10k
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Sound signature
No Idea
>Past headphones
Superlux 668B and ATH-700x

Need something portable and closed for listening to music during my breaks.

>>61113265
MSR7

>>61113123
I would maybe look at other speakers then. I have a HS8 and I don't have an audible hiss unless I crank my Magni 2 well past halfway.

>>61112917
This general's changed a lot. DT880 was the de-facto recommended headphone here when I frequented it a lot 3-4 years ago. Now it's HD600 shill central

>>61113410
>referring to DT880 as "recommended" but HD600 as "shilled"
That's some grade A bullshit.

>>61113410
DT880 is still a better bargain than the HD 600

>>61113410
Didn't the HD600 and HD650 also cost much more 3-4 years ago than they do now?

>>61113265
>Comfort level
>High
See >>61113294 but keep in mind the MSR7 are not the most comfortable headphones in existence.

>>61113003
>m50x is small-brain tier
I accept it

>>61113493
only in the US, but yeah definitely.

same thing with beyerdynamics too, they seem really cheap now as well

>>61106687
ooh I have the same problem with my dt990s
but they are great anyway, especially for games and movies

>>61113531
>DT 880 for $140
>Cheaper than HD 598

>>61112562
Seems like they're doing a release cycle of X1, X2, X3, etc.

I don't like this...

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>>61113575
HD598 sounds much better than DT880, which has too much treble.

>>61113658
Oh, to live on Treble Mountain
With the barkers and the colored balloons

>>61113658
just eq it out

>>61113294
>>61113508

Are they at least as comfortable as the 700x? I always forget i'm wearing it.

>>61113658
Jesus that's a 18-19 dB treble peak.

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>>61113728
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A LITTLE TREBLE

>>61113658
>he can't handle the treble
As expected of veilheiser riffraff.

>>61113762
EXCEPT SOUNDING LIKE NAILS ON A CHALKBOARD

>>61113714
Idk,only tried the 700X once and didn't like those silly flaps. Felt like the headphones will drop off my head eventually.
What i can tell you is that the pads on the MSR7 are generous and comfy but some people complain about tight clamp which i can't confirm.
What i can confirm is that the headband can create some sort of hotspot on your head and that you definitelly know that you are wearing those headphones.
It can also get a little sweaty under those earpads but that's a common issue with pleather pads, probably most headphones with pleather pads will make you sweat to some extend.
If that's an issue look out for headphones with velours but most if not all portable headphones come with pleather and since velours change the sound signature it's probably not what you want.
Alternatively there are the SUPER comfy MDR-1A but unfortunately they have bloated niggerbass.

>>61113871
i fixed the 700x's by putting a hair tie between the wings, solved all those problems. I'll give the MSR7 a look, my breaks don't last longer than 30 minutes so the pleather probably won't bother me.

>>61113003
what are these in-ear dildos in the last row?

>>61113960
they're shit, just like the chart

>>61113968
can you recommend me some good iems?

>>61113927
>30 minutes
No problem then. MSR7 sound amazing, the only downsides are well comfort if you're sensitive, the cables are springy and build can be hit or miss, mine squeak but once on my head nothing other than the excellent sound matters anymore.

>>61113977
Hifiman RE-400, KZ ZST

>>61113960
>>61113968

t. faggots who can't appreciate a neutral sound signature

>>61113989
t. faggot freak ear fetishist loser virgin

>>61113986
>KZ ZST
what about ZS5?

>>61114053
Heard they were good too.

>>61113977
Depends on your price range.

>>61114119
I want the best value, something like HD600 but in iem world

>>61113395
Well the hiss wasn't always present, it's started recently, they were silent before. I've replaced all the cables, but it hasn't helped.

>>61114163
Etymotic ER4 is the HD600 of the IEM world if you want true neutrality. It's arguably the most neutral hearing instrument out there.

I'm personally not a fan due to the ear dildo design so I prefer the Shure SE535.

>>61114163
Etymotic MK5/HF5/ER4SR/ER4XR.

>>61114181
Do you have your HS5 connected to a shared power supply? If so, have you tried connecting your HS5 directly to the wall separately?

Has anyone tested the new Philips X2HR?

>>61114340
I think the "HR" is just a marketing thing for normies. Muh high-res audio.

>>61114333
I do, I'll give that a shot. It's a Furman power conditioner strip so I didn't think that'd be a problem.

>>61114384
They're supposed to have change the pads and headband material for a more comfy one, i wonder if the new pads changed the sound

>>61113043
Thanks, Anon, i like yours too, Sansa is a pretty good player.

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What's so special about this? It's apparently on sale for $249 (before shipping/import fees), and I'm tempted if only because it's apparently a good deal.

>>61114935
>What's so special about this?
Nothing.

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I absolutely hate velour earpads.

They are dusty and my hairs get stuck on them.

What's the next best alternative? Leather?

>>61114935
It's got nice linear bass with low distortion.

What's a good closed ear headphone that doesn't need an amp?

>>61115093
What's your price range?

>>61115123
Under 100.

>>61115093
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170604122955&SearchText=Takstar+PRO82

>Budget
~$300
>Location
US
>Source
AV Receiver connected to PC
>Type of headphone
Full sized over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Had the m50x previously, and was perfectly fine with the level of comfort, though I was always aware of them while wearing them.
>Sound signature
No idea
>Past headphones
ATH-M50x

I've been looking at the 650s/6xxs and the HD600s, as he400i posted above, but don't really know what to look for.

Thanks

>budget: 200AUD
>location: Australia
>source: pc
>type: closed

Suggestions appreciated.

>>61115133
Sony MDR7506

>>61115056
Just use one of those lint roller things on them once in a while. Velour pads are more comfortable and don't make your ears sweat.

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What is the opinion on this?

>>61115173
HD600

>>61115173
Can't go wrong the with HD600 or HD650. Whichever you prefer. I can't recommend the 6XX. If you're from the US, the money saved just isn't worth the 6 month wait.

>>61115267
Don't know about that one, but take a look at the HD 380 Pro

>>61115173
HE400i is great. If you're sensitive to treble, get the HD600.

>>61115306
>>61115355
>>61115369
Alright thanks anons! And I assume the things I've heard about "snapheiser" is just a meme? If I don't behave like a complete retard I'll be fine?

>>61115428
If your'e not retarded and try to bend the headband, you're fine.

>>61115428
It's shitposting. If you find the clamp to be too tight, just be sure to adjust it like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U

>>61115450
If everyone does this to their new HD600/650/6XX as soon as they get it the headband will never snap. The headband snapping is caused by stretching the headband too many times which creates a stress fracture over time. Bending the metal like in that video to reduce clamp as soon as you get the headphones will lead to the headband not stretching nearly as much when you put the headphones on, preventing stress fractures from occurring.

>>61115437
>>61115450
>>61115484
Alright great to know, thanks for the heads up

>>61110934
>If i get the hd6xx how would it perform plugging it in on phone?
Well. No impedance mismatch thanks to 300ohm.
>250€
Look into HD600.
>bassy
these are neutral though. HD650/xx being marginally more bassy.

My HD598s are getting old and falling apart buildwise, considering buying a pair of DT990s to replace them.
250 or 600 Ohms, and what's a good budget amp to drive them?
Should I fall for the Premium meme, is the build quality/comfort enough to warrant the extra cost?
Finally, why the fuck do they still have a fixed cable in 2017. That shit never does anything but fucking snap, removable cable design should be a legally enforced standard.

>>61115173
If you want an all-rounder, grab HD600.

>>61115267
Niggerbass sennheiser edition.
I'd suggest to go 579 for the best overall sound, or 599, which is close enough, but more bassy.
HD380 if you must have closed.

>>61115484
My HD600 is several years old and I never bent it, I just wore it, it was comfortable from day one.

I don't get the HD600 has clamp meme because it's only 2.5N.

>>61115589
>My HD598s are getting old and falling apart buildwise, considering buying a pair of DT990s to replace them.
WTF @ replacing fine headphones with treblerape V-shaped beyers.
I'd suggest to either get HD579 or 599 on a budget, or upgrade to HD600.

Why do all mid-range to low-range headphone amps come with RCA inputs only?

What if I want to connect my audio interface to an amp to better drive my headphones? Would I need to convert the line-outs to RCA stereo? Wouldn't I risk signal clarity by going from a balanced output to an unbalanced input?

>>61115654
>upgrade to HD600
Why are you faggots shilling $600 headphones?
Seriously, if I wanted to spend that much money I would be buying a better brand than Sennheiser.

How's the Oppo PM series?

>>61115724
PM3 is considered godlike.

>>61115724
I don't know but I'm getting the PM-3 tomorrow so I'll let you know.

>>61115770
That's the one I'm looking at. Worth putting in an order for them? They're on back-order but I suppose I don't mind waiting a bit.

>>61115652
Some people are more sensitive to it. I was getting headaches from the clamp back when my HD650 was brand new. It may have been because of the pressure on my jawbone. I could wear it all day long now without issue if I wanted to.

>>61115686
What? They're like $280 new on Amazon. They can be found for around $200 and under used.

>>61115666
>make slightly technical question
>/hpg/ can't answer

sasuga /hpg/

>>61115829
what audio interface, dumbo?

>>61115843
Scarlett 18i8, 4 TRS out

>>61115849
https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CPR-203-Stereo-Interconnect-Cable/dp/B000068O18

>>61115909
Welp I had looked at that but now it seems like it's gonna be my only option. Kinda dumb how these amplifiers advertise "trve signal clarity" and have a shit-tier unbalanced jack for inputs.

Thanks anyways.

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Not this >>61115589 anon, but kind of in the same boat. I left behind my hd 558's at my parents and the only thing I have right now is a sennheiser momentum I use on trips. I've ordered the hd 6xx and I need something to fill the role of my 558s till it arrives.

Should I buy a hd 579, step up to a hd 599 or would it be advisable to try something different like akg k612?
Hd 650/600 is not really an option for me right now.

>>61115922
I can guarantee you that if your cables are short, you're not going to hear any differences between a balanced and unbalanced input.

>$60 shipping
I hate Canada

>>61115946
Seems like a real waste of money doing that. Why not just cancel your 6XX order and buy a 600/650?

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>>61116003
Its 200 cuckaroonies more for a 600/650 (same cost as a second pair of headphones) than if I buy the 6xx that's why. I live in a third world leaf.

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I just successfully created a coupler for measuring IEMs with a speaker measurement mic with pic related. It's useless for above 1 kHz but measured the 20 Hz to 1 kHz accurately.

I want to try out a planar headphone, what would you recommend? M1060s?

>>61116099
if you're american buy the oppo pm-3 instead ($400)

>>61116060
Now that I can measure the changes in bass response of various tips I can finally try Spinfits and just alter my EQ if they change the sound. Will report on Spinfits when I get them.
By the way, this little experiment of mine confirmed that EQing 20 Hz to 1 kHz response to neutral using only a credible online measurement works. I EQ'd my IEMs to an online raw measurement about a year ago (listening to a sine wave for the highs), visually matching the curve of of my EQ to the measurement. Fast forward to today and I got the waterproof tape idea and measured them with my EQ: flat as a motherfucking loli.

>>61112562
Because they suck.

Hey guys, any tips for fixing the cable on my HD280'S?

>>61116428
Soldering

>>61116043
In that case, I'd buy something used and then resell it afterwards once you receive your 6XX. Then you could put that money towards an amp+dac, or a headphone stand or something if you need one.

>>61116043
get the AKG K712, it'll be a great complement to the HD6XX when it arrives

>>61115093
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ISK-HD9999-Pro/32618616453.html

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i'm looking for noise cancelling headphones for the office, narrowed it down to these 2:

Bose QC30 vs. QC35

is in-ear more acceptable for office use than over-ear? any thoughts on these models?

New thread:

>>61117212

>>61117212

>>61117212

>>61117212

>>61115093
XPT100/HM5
>>61117251
Don't you just need closed headphones? I wouldn't think an office has a loud constant hum like a plane would which the QC35's excel at with active noise cancellation. Just get a nice pair of closed headphones like HM5's and you're fine.

>>61117301
Wrong thread, senpai.

How are the Sennheiser momentum in ear? I already have decent over-ear headphones but I need in-ear headphones for commuting. Any other suggestions below 100€?

new thread

>>61117516

>>61117516

>>61117516

>>61117516

>>61117516

>>61117442
Tennmak Pro
MEE M6 Pro
ZS5
MK5/MC5/HF5

>>61104700
ironic

>>61117530
Thanks anon I'll check them

>>61113085
Yes.

>>61112962
That microphone is detachable though

>>61118117
So then glue it on or something. What difference does it make?

>>61107686
Tubes don't warm up sound.

>>61111513
Planars aren't any better.

>>61112917
Most Beyers don't have detachable cables but these images with broken headphones are nothing but shitposting.

>>61115666
It's a cheap line level connector that is commonly used on consumer gear. It doesn't degrade signal quality on its own but also doesn't feature as sturdy of a connection as balanced XLR nor does it offer the interference free runs as balanced cables. If you have decent connectors and aren't plagued by interference on cable runs, RCA is completely fine.

>>61118133
What part of autism did you not understand?

>>61118181
Back to /r9k/

>>61118181
Make it permanently attached to satisfy your autism.

>>61118226
It needs to come permanently attached. Besides, what's so wrong with the ones I linked? They got great reviews.

>>61118549
It's shit, and so is the microphone. Go ahead and buy it, then. It makes no difference to me.

Guys, I got a pair of Shure SRH 440 + the comfy earpads of the 840.
How bad did I do?

>>61118620
What are the actual problems with it? I just don't see how it could have almost entirely positive reviews if it's shit.

>>61118637
It's bargain bin junk and the surround sound function is a gimmick

>>61118720
Is there anything actually good under $50?

>>61118730
No. You can get a used HyperX Cloud Core on Amazon for ~$60, new for $70. Is that really too expensive?

>>61118805
I have the original HyperX Cloud and I don't like the microphone, is there any difference?

>>61118812
I don't think so.

>>61118850
Then I guess I just won't buy new headphones and my friends will just have to live with the voice feedback.

>>61118873
Might be a common issue with it. Look it up.

>>61118930
It is, I'll try some of the fixes. Thanks for helping me out.

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>>61118959

I can't find any reviews on Panasonic RP-HD10. Maybe some you know about them? How do they compare with M40x?