/w4v/ - Daily Wait for Vega Thread - Frontier is Near Edition

>>61089815
I like that they're pricing it at $1200, which has a lot of opportunity to unseat NVidia's Quadros which are typically much more expensive.

>To approach the performance of the Radeon Vega Frontier Edition with an Nvidia product, you’d have to step up to at least a $2,000 Quadro P5000. A P6000 card, which is kind of the professional equivalent of a Titan Xp, is nearly $6,000.

>>61089815
>Our original estimates after seeing Radeon Vega Frontier Edition with Sniper Elite 4 at Computex still hold: The cards appears to be faster than Nvidia's GTX 1080 and close to that of a GTX 1080 Ti card.

Shills screeching it's the same/worse than a 1070 BTFO.

Out in 2 days, inb4 inb4

>1080-1080ti performance for 1.2k USD
OY.

>>61089954
This isn't Vega RX you cuck.

>>61089887
wrong. quadro has a $700 model which is better for solidworks than vega

>>61089982
Model? Specs? Benchmarks?

>>61089982
And AMD has a polaris model that's better as well, your point?

>>61090015
youve clearly not used solidworks, have you?

>>61089973
Yeah, it's actually better

>>61090026
The point is these cards don't have pro drivers like quadro or WX.

>>61090030
Nothing about Frontier Edition is specifically optimized for gaming. They've already said RX Vega would be better for gaming, not worse. You shills are just fucking relentless with the negativity and assumptions.

>>61090063
so who is going to use these cards?
no one here in my office is even thinking of these.
we use a lot of solidworks (aerospace design).
and we all have 1080 and 1080tis at home for gaming. whats the use of FE?

>>61089815
I hope they keep their promise on making all their cards a single-slot design. Also, throw in good Linux support, and I can see a lot of people buying those even on day one; or at least just for the aesthetics.

Have you reserved your card, desu?

>>61090096
The fuck if I know, ask AMD.

It has fp16 at double rate at least, meme learning and content creators? That's what their site says.

>>61090112
sorry, didn't mean to come off as rude, english isn't my first language

>>61090112
>fp16

Probably this, nVidia limits double rate half precision to the obscenely priced cards, and even those aren't 26tflop

Who else here losing hair?
I'm on R5 1600 @3.9ghz
3200mhz ram
500gb ssd
and

hd5750

COME ON AMD RELEASE THE SHIT NOW FUCKING KEK BE PRAISED DO ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

>>61090861
Me except
R7 1800X
32GB 3200
128GB NVME M.2 OS
512GB SSD SATA Programs
1Ter Black aux and bigger programs
4Ter data

And

Sapphire RX480 8GB Nitro+

Situation not so grave as you but I'm tryna do 1440 on this bitch

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>>61090861
>KEK BE PRAISED
back2reddit

>>61091218
55fps+ is easy with 390/480 nitros

unless 55 fps really bugs you I wouldn't upgrade for a while

>>61091471
Oh yeah I have no problem hitting around 60 in most games, forgot to mention I use a 144Hz Freesync monitor that I really enjoy having at full framerate. The 480 is fine, but I'm not making full use of my hardware. Monitor was bought for windows performance and for future plans for Vega but this is taking too long.
Obviously I'd be buying RX Vega not Frontier. Not sure if I am getting a reference or 3rd party card either.

>>61090861
Basically the same, except I just caved and got a Fury X

Basically all I'll need until I get a 1440p 144hz monitor instead of a 60hz one. If the $499 or $599 gets 1440p at 144hz I'll probably resell the Fury for i.

>>61090861
>1700x
>16Gb 2666 RAM
>GTX "Cuck" 970

I just want to get a 4K monitor

>>61091471
>>61091568
Not to mention I have other plans for the 480 (NOT CRYPTOMINING) and have fairly deep pockets, the 480 was really an impulse buy as at the time I was on an R9 270X that was getting long in the tooth. I bought it as a placeholder until I could complete my Ryzen/Vega rig. 480 originally paired with 8350 and a 60Hz monitor but I've been rolling parts and pieces into it over the last year like bigger PSU, better cooler, better fans, faster drives, etc, eventually Ryzen got popped in, now the last piece is Vega.

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So i can buy a card for the price around a 1080 for a performance around a 1080

Exactly why the fuck shouldn't i buy a used 1080 instead?

>>61091671
We don't know anything about pricing for RX Vega, and RX Vega will be better for gaming than FE anyway.

>>61090109
Who gives a fuck about single slot, it's a 300+watt tdp card.

>>61090861
R5 1600x @4ghz
3300mhz ram
and

hd5850

i dont care about frontier edition wod about muh gayms

>>61091851
Later you ungrateful gaymen faggot.
t. Raja Koduri

>>61091871
um excuse you

I could've been enjoying a 1080ti by now but I got cucked by Freesync. At this point I'm all in on Vega even if it's housefire tier.

>>61092050
Any aftermarket 1080ti is also housefire-tier, sasuga GPU Boost 3.0.

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>>61092062
>not making your own hybrid

pleb

>>61092113
Porkshoulders edition?

>>61092050
1080ti is also housefire, but nobody cares since performance speaks for itself
if vega at least 1% faster everyone going to lose their shit how terrible it's TDP is etc., it will matter SO MUCH all of a sudden

>>61090112
well as a casual content creator I'd love to get a workstation grade GPU with a consumer price tag.
ps kids buy GPUs too you know, there's a giant market aiming at dirt poor kids/college students and that's where Vega will shine. check the annual steam survey, I bet my ass less than 10%of the gamers have the latest and greatest 780/980/1080 ti models. Vega will be aiming at the 90% who cares about price performance ratio and aren't retarded enough to shell out 2000 on a pc component.

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>>61091681
>We don't know anything about pricing for RX Vega
Post YFW 1080 Ti performance at 50-75% 1080 Ti prices

>>61089815
calling it right now
>productivity that shits on anything nvidia
>gaming perf that ranges from 1070 tier to above 1080 Ti in ideal circumstances
>no halo product, no perf crown
>does OK price/perf wise until volta shuts it down

What mh will Vega have

>>61091585

>4k freesync 2 when?

Fuck you samsung, fuck you.

>>61092813
>until volta shuts it down
A year from now?

>>61092813
>muh volta
That bigger die shit isn't going to cut it in consumer GPUs. It's going to be 10-15% faster than Pascal if you're lucky.

>>61092778
Water cooled Vega will be $700, non Water cooled full chip probably $600. Then cut downs from there with the 1070 competitor being $450

>>61092938
>Water cooled Vega will be $700
sauce me bro. That's still a bit cheaper than 1080 Ti's

Why are you guys hyped for Vega, miners will buy all of them before they hit the shelves anyway

>>61092938
>1070 competitor
>$450

nope, you get the 1070 in germany for €380 in sale, if vega sells for $450, it would cost at least €500. nobody would buy them. if it's >$350, it's DOA

>>61092990
>Source : his ass

No one knows how much they are going to cost, nothing has been released, people are just speculating based off of previous products and the upcoming Frontier cards

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>>61093006
>he hasn't heard the word

>>61093022
Is the crypto meme finally coming to an end?

>>61093015
You are forgetting about miners, if 450$ is actual price for RX Vega, then it would sell like hotcakes.

>>61093038
>>61093047
miners can't use Vega because it uses HBM

>>61093155
The Nano is one of the best cards for mining

>>61093038
ETH is crashing so, possibly yes.

>>61093186
I love it when normies think miners disassemble their rigs every time there's a dip

I just want SR-IOV ;_;

>>61090861
And I was feeling bad with my 7870

>>61093155
the limitation was the 4gb and nothing more

now that vega will ship with 8 and 16 well you better preorder one before

how much time would one of these high end gpus from nowadays last at 1440p 60fps?

>>61093226
Miners don't, but people who wanted to make some quick dosh will be panic selling like crazy

>yfw crossfire 480's for 200 bucks

>>61090861
GTX 960 here, sold 580 to hungry coiners for easy bux. Vega is the next life.

>>61093458
I mean you could buy a RX 580 and play 1440p on high for the next few years honestly. GTX 1070 will let you play ultra settings until at least 2022

>>61093776
and for how long could I surf on a 1080ti at ultra settings disregarding gimped drivers?

>>61093808
At 1440p 60fps? Forseeable future really. You wouldn't really have to worry about it.

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3 0 0 W

>>61093882
what will come after we reach silicon limits? graphmeme is still way too far away, but it's the one thing that will give the highest performance/power

>>61093992
>reaching silicon limits
>with GPUs

>>61094001
not with gpus exclusively, more on the general

>>61093962
And?

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looks like Charlie is dropping hints about what to expect from future GPUs
https://semiaccurate.com/2017/06/26/amds-epyc-lots-connections/
>While AMD did not go into explicit detail about IF and how it works, from the Epyc launch and other briefings you don’t have to dig very deep to come to the conclusion that the entire 2S system and PCIe cards can be treated as a single device. This may not do much at the moment but it is a powerful platform to build on in the near future.
in case you missed the important parts:
>PCIe cards can be treated as a single device
>it is a powerful platform to build on in the near future
>near future
WAIT FOR NAVI

>>61094272
>scalability
Hehehehe.

>>61094272
This. Navi has always be the one to wait for. Even if Vega turns out to be a dark horse and destroys Pascal is of no matter. If they can pull a Zen and make one efficient die that can scale however they want, then it's all over. A two die Navi card would be amazing, enthusiasts would love their 3+ die cards, and poorfriends will take their one die cards.

>>61094441
Don't forget the HPC niggers. Remember that slapping 4 400mm^2 dies and raping your competitor is absolutely legal on the market.

>>61094462
Will we ever have a smug Raja?

>>61094484
I think yes. Papermaster was some insane levels of smug on EPYC presentation.

>>61094498
Might have to watch it then. Intel must still be crying.

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>>61094462

The software side of that must be like stepping into the eye of terror. When it works its amazingly brutal but get it wrong and OH GOD D(A)EMONS.

>>61094528
I don't think AMD will get it wrong, since they made the Infinity Fabric.

>>61094580
Why did AMD not keep Zen and Naples as their product names? They sound so much better than the terrible Ryzen, the somewhat ok Threadripper, and the terrible Epyc.

>>61094629
You can't trademark Zen and Naples.

>>61094629
zen would be a nightmare to trademark, naples too

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>>61089943
repeat after me

1070 performance levels. when you factor out dx12 and vulkan meme shit and put in games people actually play with amds usual shit drivers thats what it will be

>>61094629
Because they can't register them. Naples is an italian city, and Zen is a buddhist school.

I shudder at the thought of how many man hours are lost in discussing the name of a product.

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>>61094441
yup
>be AMD
>make single die with 32 CUs for low end
>stitch two together for 64 CU mid range cards
>stitch four together for 128 CU high end cards
well it's going to be on 7nm so who knows how many cores could actually be put on a single die, but if this actually happens we could see a gigantic leap in GPU performance

>>61094751
It's literally the Holy Grail of GPUs.

>>61094692
nvidiots would have us stay in 2011 forever

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES 300W & 375W

>>61094751
I sincerely doubt this would make a big difference. GCN's problem has always been CU under-utilization, not potential for raw parallel power. Simply strapping moar coars on it wouldn't bring it to 1080 Ti levels efficiency.

The savings would be pretty insane though. I honestly hope the Zeppelin strategy becomes an industry standard. This is a historical development.

>>61094820
game developers are usually slow to adopt new API

>>61094869
Vega is to GCN as is Maxwell to Tesla.

>>61094881
>game developers are usually slow to do any work

>>61094881
the comparison is still dumb. R7s are known to get i5 perf in some cases. that doesn't mean they're not vastly superior.

>>61094891
hopefully.

>>61094929
r7 are beastly but game makers are lazy and are designed around single thread intel compiler

>>61094999
It's not about ICC. Devs are simply lazy.

No reason not to wait for vega at the moment, considering you can't get a polaris card.

Lack of availability and waiting is at least giving me more time to save up and get a higher end card.

>>61094869
>GCN's problem has always been CU under-utilization
that's what vega is supposed to fix by bringing better IPC with more resources in rasterization and load balancing
it should* make vega more balanced than fiji which had 64CUs, but all other resources were the same as hawaii
* - hopefully

>>61094580

Infinity fabric is - fundamentally - the hardware layer and in comparison for this sort of design (modular gpus) building the hardware is piss easy compared to the software logistics.

>>61094692
>the future of graphics APIs is DX 11 forever hurr durr let me gargle more of Huang's sperm

Kill yourself, faggot.

>>61094692
>using an Intel logo when their GPUs are worse than both AMD and NVidia

Literally a failure at life. You can't even shitpost right.

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>>61094692
>amds usual shit drivers
NVidia's drivers have been a lot worse lately.
>>61094837
Air-cooled 1080 ti isn't even that far off in terms of power usage.

Also, you will never make this a meme, you useless cocksucking faggot. https://rbt.asia/_/search/text/%22AYYMD%20HOUSEFIRES%22/

>>61094837
Reminder to report shitposters who've been spamming this shit on /g/ for months. https://rbt.asia/g/search/text/%22AYYMD%20HOUSEFIRES%22/

>>61095452
Lol u are mad because you are angry

Vega released july 30th, I have to go to jail for 40 days Aug 1st. Fuck, no cards for me.

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>>61095684

>>61095607
>250w vs 300w
>same shit

>>61095737
I don't fanboy for either company I just like to make your shill jobs hard

>>61095726
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

>>61090861

I have a 270x, I just bought a 1080TI. Fuck it, I'm done waiting.

>>61095800
>oh no, the tdp is 1/6 higher on one card compared to the other

>>61089815
Who give a fuck, its too late

-posted from my 1070

>>61096112
Ladies first

>>61094692
>>61095684
>>61095805
>>61096138
Why are GPU threads always the biggest retard shitposting troll magnets? This shit should just be relegated to /v/ forever.

>>61094272
>NAVI
MCM HERE WE COME
>captcha
>shoah

>>61094629
because of shitposting memetic company engineers voting for Ryzen
I fucking kid you not

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>>61090861
R5 1600 @ 3.8
16 GB @ 3.2
Rebrandeon r9 280x (HD 7970)
Seems like Vega will be doa can't see it being great price/performance as the rumors have been suggesting and Volta is comming.

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>300 watts

>>61096060
high end GPU buyers are not a finite resource

it doesn't matter when it comes, only that it's good enough

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>>61094272
FUCK

>>61093226

It is late-comers a.k.a suckers who sell off their GPUs to help recoup their losses.

>>61094692
>games people actually play
no one plays far cry ape noises
no one plays tom clancy's rotting anus
no one plays ubishit
no one plays reddit humor: the game
no one plays shitty nvidia sponsored games

>>61092113
>leaving the pump cap off
I see you like to live dangerously.

>>61092848
It'll perform like shit in Lyra2RE, that much you should know.

>>61094692
bate?

>>61099382
no, reality

>>61094751
>7nm
Just take the core numbers they release for Vega, and multiply by 1.6

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>>61096385
>300 watts


Hows that 1080Ti

>>61094185

>Power hogging is okay when AMD does it!

>>61099320
What's dangerous about this? Literally *nothing* contacts it.

>>61099645
see:
>>61099570
No one really cares about power consumption in GPUs aside from small form factor stuff, so long as you have proper cooling you won't notice it.

>>61095628

>What? The Titan XP isn't using a single 6 pin connector? HOUSE FIRE!!!!!!!!!
>What? AMD is sucking power like it's a fucking race? It's okay when AMD does it!

>>61093962
t h i c c

>>61093962
that blue is beautiful

Any of the reviews commenting on if they improved the reference cooler? I'm hoping it's not a 290 2.0

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>>61093992
die stacking and interposers

>>61093808
>disregarding gimped drivers
with nvidia honest answer "who the heck knows"
980ti is at the level of 390x these days within 10%, it was beating it handily 30% before
780ti gets beaten by 1050ti, not to mention 470/570
you buy Ti card only if you are ready to buy a new ti card when it releases

>>61094272
Just because IF work it on cpu. will it help ?. Unless amd win perf/watt it other failure. Navi will be shit

>>61094692
>amds usual shit drivers
better than nvidia's last attempt at a hardware scheduler

>>61100543
Beware of fake posts such as this one.

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>>61100543
I own a fury non x and I can safely say you're not being truthful to yourself. There have been improvements in the 390x drivers but it's still nowhere near the performance of a 980 ti. The fury is great but runs into issues with ram capacity, and it's within 5% or so of the 980 ti (a stock one, to be frank. OC'ed the thing is much faster on average).

So don't BS. 390x is a great card and most owners have little reason to upgrade, but it's more comparable to a 980. Which can still do 1080p 60fps quite easily.

>>61096333
well it doesnt matter

if it beats 1080ti which most surely it will then who the fuck cares

>>61101652
Man sick of waiting for Vega really tempted to march to my nearest local hardware store, grab a 1080Ti for 4K 60fps and be done with it.

>>61101845
do what you want. Keep in mind you'll have to put up with nvidia's shit in doing so, but nobody will blame you. Still, now is such a bad time to buy ANY gpu you might want to hold off until ethereum finally crashes.

>>61101845
yeah with my current knowledge of the industry we are at least 2 generations away from casually being able to play on 4k 60fps hell even 60 fps on 1440p is somewhat difficult

>>61101871
prices don't seem to have risen around these parts, all 580s are out of stock all over the place cheapest is an MSI aftermarket model around 425AUD (323USD) compared to newegg US selling the same model for 699USD(what the fuck). It will take forever for Vega to be stocked here after launch, probably an additional 2 months of waiting for it to be stocked.
One of cheapest 1080Ti aftermarket models is a gigabyte card around 700USD on newegg US, locally the same model goes for around 836USD and is in stock.
Last I checked MSI 1080Ti was around 1300AUD(989USD) dropped to 1169AUD(889USD) only recently and is in stock fucking everywhere I go.
Vega might end up better price performance but I doubt the end result will be much different.

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HURRY UP

WHERE CAN I BUY VEGA GOD DAMN IT

>>61100288
This. Modular clusters of individual cores and caches that can be rearranged on an interposer under a shared lid. It's been hypothesized since even before the fury cards actually launched and will become the method of choice going forward from sub 7nm.

AMD is literally building towards this future.

>>61102574
You should read AMD's paper about exascale APUs.

>>61102485
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105073

>>61103224
It's out of stock mate, plus what if I'm a Canadian and want one?

>>61103578
>plus what if I'm a Canadian and want one?
Wait never mind about this, NCIX is the place.

>>61103588
You're canadian, you're not important.

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>>61103603
Go fuck yourself, neither is your pathetic existence.

>>61103616
Fake french.

>>61103578
>what if I'm a Canadian
sorry, nothing we can do about that

Been offered £250 for Nvidia 980ti anons. What should I do?

>>61104552
It's basically a 1070, get it.

>>61104628
I feel like poor fag for not buying new.

Vega FE is $999, air cooled.
Water cooled comes q3.
No reviews?
The wait is over.

>>61104552
>>61104628
>>61104660

nah hold 980 Ti and 1070 is off gp102/1080 where 980 ti is off the gm200

>>61105660
Pro cards don't get sent to reviewers.
Not even Nvidia sends them.

Design for Vega logo looks like it was lifted from Fendi's Monster eyes. Are they trying to grab the Chinese market with this pseudo-luxury branding?

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>>61105858

better than finewine our users promise curries and cream

tfw no benches on release

>already down from the initially announced $1199 and $1799

Ouch, a price cut right at release is never an act of generosity, that doesn't sound good

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Vega FE has not sent out any review samples
https://twitter.com/RyanSmithAT/status/879695875009687553
some reviewers have preordered their cards but it's probably gonna be a few days until they get it
sad
see you guys in a few days

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>1600MHz peak with 4096 cores
The fuck?

>>61106995
And? GCN could not clock higher due to pipeline depth. Vega makes it longer, thus enabling higher clocks.

>>61107006
>And?
isn't it great? Polaris does really well with a 1400MHz clock, Vega should be in an incredibly good position if it can obtain higher clocks with that amount of cores. That or another Fury X.

>>61107023
>another Fury X
Impossible, since Vega has much beefier front-end to feed CUs.

Yeah, if anyone hasn't noticed, Vega supports non-volatile storages like M2 SSDs, and has 10bit support.

Whoever runs gaming on this should be shot

>>61107053
You do know they're making a Vega for consumers, right?

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I know this is bait, but seriously, I can't take anymore of this.
>>>/v/, either actually LEARN informatics or fuck off.
I'm sick, physically and emotionally sick, of your incessant shitposting.
If you don't understand a topic, don't comment on it.
Linux is the furthest away from being obsolete compared to the proprietary and bricked shitfest that is Macintosh software and hardware, or the banal and bloated botware of Micropenis.
If you want play your shitty AAA games (in which they don't even bother anymore), rather than actually contribute to intelligent technology related discussion? That's great.
But newsflash!
We have a containment board for that rubbish:
>>>/v/
>Go home!
>Picture very much related, it is you trying to browse and understand TRUE /g/threads.

>>61107072
Yeah, but it's out in a month.
The FE is purely content creation

>>61107053
Yes, Radeon Vega Pro SSG will be glorious. But RX Vega still exists.

>>61091574
Fellow Fury X fag, here.

You're pretty good for awhile. I can run just about anything I'd care to play at max/ 60fps, and I can run alot of them at 120+. Just do yourself a favor and wait on Navi. The drivers just keep improving. Hell, I've gained 15fps in Overwatch, since I first bought it.

>>61093962
I kind of hated the blue until I saw this.

Also
>300w
your point?

Vega confirmed to be a flop, no review sites has a review and AYYMD is hiding the gaming performance

>>61107276
see
>>61105732
also from the article in the OP

>From what we’ve seen, that concern may be misplaced. It appears to be plenty fast and, at least for the settings and the games we played, indistinguishable from the competition. Our original estimates after seeing Radeon Vega Frontier Edition with Sniper Elite 4 at Computex still hold: The cards appears to be faster than Nvidia’s GTX 1080 and close to that of a GTX 1080 Ti card.

Now fuck off, cuck shill shitposter.

>>61104660
no worries, I did too. That feeling will leave when you actually jam it into your PC and play newer gaymes. For a 1080p fag like me a used 980Ti was a blessing, pretty much everything runs at full quality settings.

>>61107451
Thanks man. The hype for Navi and Nvidia has failed, Might as well wait 3/4 years for the next round of true next gen hardware in my opinion.

>>61107708
Ehh, we know nothing of Navi yet. Except, well, "scalability".

>>61107708
It's just not worth waiting anymore. Also, try to get an unit that's not been ridden to death. While newer cards have 8GB, 980ti has "only" 6GB (what the fuck nvidia, top of the line gpu with 6GB?), but that should last good 4 years before you can't run shit on the highest res.
It's also my first nvidia card in a lifetime and I'm pleasantly surprised. It's just not worth waiting anymore.

>>61107754

I think it will make future AMD machines architecture more like consoles one. Kinda cool.

>>61107822
>more like consoles one
What? Cucksoles are using simple custom APU.

>>61107841
I think he means shared memory

>>61107854
APUs are exactly that.

>>61107841

Consoles tend to consume less power and be overall more effective than home built PCs. I think future AMD architecture will allow users to achieve similar level of comfort hence the scalability.

>>61107901
No shit, they also use custom OSed and employ low-level optimisation EVERYWHERE. You can't do that on usual PC hardware.

What makes me laugh about consoles is the devs basically optimize a game towards the architecture and graphics quality varies based on game engine and the devs competence at utilizing the hardware. There is no 'high' or 'ultra' settings. It's a fixed quality based solely on what they can do with the hardware they have. Thus the claims of 4K @ 60 fps are quite funny. I can play at 4K on certain games at certain settings on my RX 480.

>>61107931

PS 4 use Linux

>>61108034
No it uses custom BSD-based OS.

>>61107969

I think this is no longer the way.

>>61108042

Do you think with latest achievements on drivers front, Linux OS can provide better hardware utilization than Windows?

Machine, i am typing from, is unusable on W10, but on latest batch of Ubuntu 17.10 it can even provide decent frame-rate in Doom 3 BFG edition, play 1080p videos through WiFi etc.

It uses AMD APU.

>>61104434
>>61103616

>>61089815
>Vega FE is a workstation card!!! damage control
>don't compare it to the 1080 Ti !!! it's not a gaming card!!
>don't compare it to a quadro, it's not a real workstation card just a budget one!!
>compare it to Titan Xp guys, it's a workstation card just like the Titan Xp!!
holy shit

>>61109051

Yeah, AMD is pathetic, they know Vega is slower than 1080 ti in gaming and slower than P5000 in workstation applications.

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>AMD decided not to sample Vega Frontier to reviewers. This means that independent reviews are not available today and probably won’t be for a while. This leaves us with no information about Vega performance whatsoever (apart from AMD’s in-house marketing metrics).

>AMD Vega was postponed few times (according to AIBs). The reason for the delay is not related to any yield issues, but performance. AMD is clearly trying to boost it by optimizing software to the very last moment. This might also explain missing reviews of Frontier (even from the most trusted tech sites). The reality is that the very first person to provide gaming benchmarks of Vega Frontier is probably going to have the most popular content in months.

D O A

>>61109245
Who the fuck sends review samples of pro cards?

>>61109245
>>61107364

>>61109377
Vega FE is about as pro as the Titan Xp.

>>61109387
It's as pro as OG Titan was. Before nvidia made Titians into overpriced toys because it was hurting their Quadro sales.

>>61109245
Considering what Driver updates got out of the Fury X of course they don't want to repeat the same mistake.

>>61090096
>they aren't useful for one use case in my office
>so they aren't useful for anything

Neck yourself, you fucking retard.

>>61109395
OG Titan was still benchmarked heavily in games when it came out and beat out every other single GPU solution that was on the market.

NVIDIA are still trying to push the Titan cards as being prosumer but they gimped them after the first one, regardless the target market is the same for the Vega FE.

>vega is a pro card
>benchmark with non pro card titan xp

The city of AMD

>>61109612
It's not a pro card. It's a prosumer one.

>>61109620
Where are the gaymers benchmarks?

>>61109650
As soon as someone actually gets one.

>>61094629
Ryzen sounds kinda pretty rad, in my opinion.

How much longer until the gaming Vega be released? I have $1000 for """""waiting""""" but this card isn't for gaming.

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>>61109051

Fucking this, meu negro!

>>61109738
RX Vega launches at SIGGRPAH, so probably early August for AIB cards.

>>61109781
Fucking hell, another month and a half. How much better is it again? Might be better off impulse buying this housefire right now.

>>61109847
Any flagship card is a housefire. The choice is yours.

>>61109781

Some people have been suggesting that it wont be a paper launch at Siggraph

>>61109880
Yes, it's obviously NOT a paper launch, but AIB cards usually come a week or two later.

>>61109612
>pro cards do better in games
Found your problem faggot.

>>61089943
good, now remove Vulkan optimizations, and you get 1080 performance at best, but most likely less than a 1080.

For $1000.

>>61110191
Yes-yes, mr. Huang. DX11 forever.

>>61110191
Some other shitposter beat you to the punch. Heh, tough luck, kid. >>61094692

>>61109612
Vega costs about the same as Titan XP, it makes sense to compare to direct competition.

There is nothing on nVidia side that can compete other than titan or 1080ti

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>>61110191
Woodscrews porkshoulders 1.7 housefires fuck off Huang.

>>61110253
Quadro P4000

>>61109880
It'll be a paper launch

Just look at how this has been going

There's no fucking way it won't be a paperlaunch

>>61112511
Why the fuck would they paperlaunch a card they've been selling for a month already? You are fucking retarded kill yourself.

>>61090026
You've clearly not used solidworks either.

>>61090861
i7 870 @ 3.85GHz
GTX 680 4GB
I'm waiting for Zen2 and Navi though

>>61112554
Because they're paperlaunching the rx vega, not the Vega FE, retard

>>61112881
This desu. Zen is very great so Zen2 will hopefully mature clocks and be on a smaller node. Navi will hopefully be RTG's Zen if they can scale however they want.