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how does one get good with vim? is vimtutor really the best way, I suppose learning through practice is the best way to do it, but i'm using qutebrowser to try and get a hang of vimlike commands

>>61087971
Eeee, that's a little backwards. At least it will get you used to mashing ESC if you are in doubt about what mode you are in. And you can use ctl-e to write your shitposts in vim!

>>61087971
try vimtutor it's not bad, then check various vimtips online

Do you prefer GTK or Qt based DEs?

>>61088250
>where systemd fits in to the stack
Yet they clearly don't bother too much about sticking to 'system daemons'. What's stopping them from trying to dictate the whole userland?

>>61088302
I agree with you.

>>61088250
Reposting because I had already written it out when some braindead mod deleted the other thread when we had finally managed to have a constructive discussion about something technology related.

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That is a bit of an overboard reaction.

The SystemD project hasn't given any indication of a desire to make their own compiler toolchain or binutils. But Poettering did say he wants systemd to serve as, among other things, "The glue between applications and the kernel" which sounds suspiciously like a libc.

If systemd does turn out to be so much better than anything else available at the moment then it could easily be argued that it would be more important to linux based operating systems than the GNU project (now, not historically obviously). Because everything (at least major things) that the GNU project puts out has competative alternatives, but in that scenario systemd wouldn't.

You are welcome to provide a counter argument more substantial than "You are all ignorant and stupid".

>>61086933
Wait so can I Xerox that book without any legal repercussions?

>>61088205

You mean Qt or GTK programs.
I like GTK, because the theming seems easier. I don't even know how Qt theming works. I know it has styles, but where do you install them and are they exclusive to Qt4 or Qt5 or?
Functionality wise, you don't realize notice a difference as a user.

holy crap compiling firefox takes long

Lmao both of the old threads died

>>61088439
Oh yea, Firefox is a huge ass piece of software

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M-Manjaro

*tries to contain laughter*

Pfffhtttt... Haaa... Manjaro *snickers*

Manjaro forums are down

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA

*gasps for air*

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

>>61088513
Are you 13 y/o?

>>61088528
I wish

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>>61088465
And it eats memory like a bitch. Is chromium better?

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I changed my resolution to 320x240 for shits and giggles and now I can't change it back because I can't press the apply button. What do?

>>61088673
Run xrandr in terminal and set res there

>>61088659

Using up 800MB of my RAM?! How dare it?!

Why do you think a different browser browsing the same website will give you different results? Why do you think that the potential 50MB of RAM you'll "save" will make your computing experience better? Why do you want to have unused RAM? Do you know what RAM is for and why it's logical to have things in it for faster access?

>>61088673
Learn to move windows with alt + left click.

>>61088713
That's cool, thanks

>>61088659
It's mostly because websites themselves are huge nowadays.
You cannot open something like Facebook and expect to have low RAM usage. It's just how the site works.
But you can try for yourself and compare the mem usage on different browsers.

>>61088727
You can probably also use alt + right click to resize - this one's a big help because, unlike the title bar, resizing widgets are often tiny and hard to grab.

is emulating windows on qemu+kmv with pci passthrough a viable solution for gaming?

>>61088767
I haven't got a spare GPU myself but I have heard people swear that it is just fine. If you can get it set up. There are links to guides somewhere on the arch wiki and the linux_gaming subreddit.

You do lose some performance though so I suppose you will want a recent graphics card.

>>61086933
I just installed parabola GNU+linux-libre with openrc on my x60 and I just realized wifi-menu doesn't work. What do?

Can I fug your boipucc?

Ok so I stupidly fucked up again. I chose a resolution higher than my monitor's, thinking it would automatically revert after like 15 seconds like on Windows. It didn't.
Now I can only use the terminal, however, when I try to change the resolution using xrandr commands, it says "can't open display". What do I do now?

>>61089021
no

>>61089047

Switch to a tty, remove any config files set by your desktop environment when you changed resolutions.

>>61089113
Good idea. Edited the xfce config file and now it's all good. Why is /g/ so much better than all these Linux forums? I've read through several threads and I didn't find a solution

>>61089047
>it says "can't open display"
Pograms that do X-related stuff use an environment variable to know which display to work with. When running them outisde of an X environment, you need to supply that variable yourself. in the case of xrandr, I see it also takes a --display option, so you can probably use that too.

Either way, the display is probably ":0.0". Try passing that as the environment variable $DISPLAY, or using the --display option. It should work™.

>>61089182
In fact I just went ahead and tried, it works.

xrandr --display :0.0

env DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr

Both work in a TTY. Glad you fixed it already anyway.

>>61088205
Lxqt seems promising.

vlc doesn't read files or even launch on Arch after update.

I tried to uninstall and reinstall. Anyone with same problem?

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Finally figured out a mutt configuration I'm comfortable with using.

At last I can remove the last remaining piece of Shitzilla software on my installation

I want to remove \n from every odd line.

I know that

sed '1~2d'

removes every odd line, but I don't want the line to be removed. I want the \n of the line to be removed so the even lines would be right next to the odd lines.

How do I go on about adding that into that sed command?

>>61089604
Actually I looked it up, seems like

paste -s -d' \n'

does it. But there is a space. I guess I can pipe it into sed again and remove that space.

>>61089659
Nevermind,

tr -d ' '

did it lol

I want to use easy tether on linuxmint 18.1 but i dont know how to set it up.can someone help me?
http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android_faq.html#linuxsetup

>>61089867
Help with what? You posted a tutorial for it didn't you?

Is there a way to make htop less verbose and to report a single program's total RAM usage, without splitting it out by process?
It almost makes me miss Windows Task Manager, that shit was clean and easy to understand at a glance if some program was being a faggot.

>>61089867
Before systemd you would just set usb0 to be dhcp but that has probably changed now.

Nevertheless, I don't use easy tether but it like like it just use the normal USB tethering protocols, so just look up how to do usb tethering with you os or de.

>>61089890
>but anon, i dont understand what the words are sayin.

>>61089423

Start it from a terminal emulator and see what it says.

>>61089423
this:
>>61090434


Alternatively, you can grab the appimage for VLC and use it until your package maintainer pulls his shit together.

>>61089867

>install network manager (probably already have it installed)
>turn on tethering on phone
>click on the connection in network manager that shows up when you connect your phone

Shit nigga, it works on my shitty dumphone, it should work on your fancy smartphone as well.

>>61090019
K hides kernel threads.
htop shows you resident memory per process.

You can use utility called ps_mem.py to check memory usage per program.

wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pixelb/ps_mem/master/ps_mem.py
sudo python ps_mem.py

>>61089431
what browser are you using?

>>61090525
w3m (i shit you not) for text stuff aka majority of my browsing.
iridium for 4swamp and multimedia.
chromium for botnet services like google accounts.

Caveman here. Just got a Android phone from a friend and I'm wondering if you guys know if there's a way to use this thing in freedom (or at least as far as it gets). Any hints?

>>61090898
none at all.

How can I speed up my boot time? it's over a minute long right now

[]$ systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.

[]$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 9.543s (firmware) + 3.503s (loader) + 928ms (kernel) + 3.891s (initrd) + 56.433s (userspace) = 1min 14.300s

]$ systemd-analyze blame
21.472s akmods.service
17.466s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
14.933s dkms.service
11.311s plymouth-quit-wait.service
8.450s firewalld.service
7.628s systemd-journald.service
6.530s systemd-udev-settle.service
5.515s accounts-daemon.service
4.603s libvirtd.service
4.585s dev-mapper-fedora_definer5\x2droot.device
4.276s lvm2-monitor.service
3.567s lvm2-pvscan@8:19.service
3.176s systemd-journal-flush.service
2.978s polkit.service
2.671s abrtd.service
2.458s NetworkManager.service
2.068s dmraid-activation.service
2.040s network.service
1.911s ModemManager.service
1.293s chronyd.service
1.204s fwupd.service
1.185s abrt-ccpp.service
1.059s sshd.service

>>61090552
>w3m
My nigga. w3m is superp.
- nice for paging
- nice for ebook reading
- nice for html2texting
- nice for browsing
- nice for viewing pictures
- made by anime girls from japan
Let's all love w3m.

>>61090936

systemd-analyze plot > something.svg

upload the svg to somewhere or convert it to png and post it.

>>61090936
reinstall

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>>61090975

>>61091011
networkmanager.wait it the problematic one, it stalls the booting for >15secs

there are plenty of google results to fixing that wait (usually by lowering timeout), check those.

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>>61090936
>>61091011
Out of curiosity I measured the performance of my 10 year old laptop running sysvinit (not parallelized). 18 seconds from grub to login.
I wonder how fast it would be if i put an SSD in it.


Anyways, describe your machine more senpai, is it a desktop or a server?
Throw out anything related to plymouth, it's just this silly fedora logo that fills up on boot time, completely fucking irrelevant waste of resources. To disable it you have to remove rhgb (redhat graphical boot or something like that, look it up) flag from the grub boot up script

>4.603s libvirtd.service
You're using a VM? How often? Maybe starting libvirtd manually when you need it could be a better option?
>1.204s fwupd.service
What the fuck? Isn't fwup just a bios firmware updater? Why does it run in the background?
>1.059s sshd.service
Server or a desktop? If a desktop throw it out immediately friend.
>2.671s abrtd.service
When I used to run fedora I removed it. It's a botnet to collect info about crashed software so you have an easier time filling a bug report. If you don't fill bug reports, you don't need abrtd.

I have no clue what akmods and dkms are for, my wild guess is nvidia drivers, am I right? So you probably need these.

Also can some greybeard share his insight on why NetworkManager is such a slow piece of dookie?

>>61091098
thanks m8. but even without that, shouldn't it be faster? i am seeing boot times <10s on others

>>61088861
on youtube, someone did some benchmarks and the performances were ~95% of windows's

some games like borderlands 2 were even faster while running on windows+kvm than on native windows (i am not sure but i think it's because the filesystem being used being better than the windows one)

best music player that isn't mpd+something?

>>61091193
cmus/moc

>>61090898
it heavily depends on the phone. but it won't be GNU/Linux.

>>61091134
it's a desktop but i SSH into it remotely a lot so i can't throw out sshd.service.

i never use vm and i dont even know why i have it running

>>61091238
I think fedora workstation comes with Boxes(gnome libvirt frontend ) by default.
remove that.

>>61090936

>all those "non-standard" services
No wonder.

]$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 11.057s (firmware) + 1.479s (loader) + 934ms (kernel) + 3.852s (initrd) + 33.758s (userspace) = 51.082s

]$ systemd-analyze blame
10.240s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
7.507s dkms.service
7.105s akmods.service
7.064s systemd-journald.service
5.884s dev-mapper-fedora_definer5\x2droot.device
5.723s systemd-udev-settle.service
4.723s plymouth-quit-wait.service
4.388s lvm2-monitor.service
3.784s firewalld.service
2.971s systemd-journal-flush.service
2.385s libvirtd.service
2.235s lvm2-pvscan@8:19.service
2.196s accounts-daemon.service
1.868s fwupd.service
1.798s dmraid-activation.service
1.556s gssproxy.service
1.409s ModemManager.service
1.113s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-d4a8d4ba\x2d408d\x2d4967\x2d9b
1.070s systemd-udevd.service
1.035s avahi-daemon.service
954ms systemd-random-seed.service
940ms chronyd.service
880ms fedora-readonly.service

>>61091326
which ones can i lose without losing basic functionality? the desktop doesnt have any special boot up requirements, other than sshd

>>61091371
if you dont use lvm, disable that.
if you dont use libvirt (boxes, virt-manager) that too.
plymouth too.
ModemManager

>>61091137
>i am seeing boot times <10s on others

don't compare your relatively normal systems boot time to the boot time of a MUH MINIMULISM sperlord setup.

>>61091193
audacious with winamp classic gui

>>61091448
Yeah buddy, cause virtualization daemon, lvm services when you don't use lvm, shitty graphical bootup for god knows what reason and NetworkManager proving to be an absolutely garbage piece of software are absolutely essential to normal functioning of a desktop operating system.

systemd was supposed to be THE fast init system and it's speed is hailed by hordes of redmumbai shills as the single biggest advantage of using it for your average user. When it boots like a 15 year old WinXP shitbox it's time to reasses these statements don't you think?

>>61091371
here mine

user@devbox~> systemd-analyze 
Startup finished in 8.024s (kernel) + 9.620s (userspace) = 17.645s
user@devbox~> systemd-analyze blame
          3.595s systemd-journal-flush.service
          3.317s dev-sda2.device
          2.256s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2[...]
          2.240s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2[...]
          2.087s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2[...]
          1.728s systemd-journald.service
          1.355s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2[...]
           963ms mnt-neko.mount
           888ms systemd-logind.service
           864ms dhcpcd.service
           864ms alsa-restore.service
           600ms systemd-modules-load.service
           520ms systemd-udevd.service
           428ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
           404ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
           374ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
           373ms systemd-sysctl.service
           275ms [email protected]
           275ms upower.service
           234ms systemd-binfmt.service
           223ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
           222ms dev-mqueue.mount
           221ms dev-hugepages.mount
           216ms systemd-remount-fs.service
           210ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
           210ms systemd-hostnamed.service
           204ms boot.mount
           166ms home.mount
           154ms systemd-networkd.service
           135ms systemd-random-seed.service
           131ms systemd-timesyncd.service
           101ms kmod-static-nodes.service
            78ms dev-sda4.swap
            75ms mnt-newvolume.mount
            73ms systemd-update-utmp.service
            38ms mnt-doran.mount
            31ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
            16ms systemd-user-sessions.service
             5ms tmp.mount
             2ms sys-kernel-config.mount
user@devbox~> 

>>61091453
I'm trying to compile windowmaker on debian 9 and autotools is giving me this error:
with pkg-config and MagickWand-config - are you missing libmagickwand-dev package?
but I have that installed, any ideas?

>>61091514
https://packages.debian.org/search?lang=pl&searchon=names&keywords=libmagickwand-6+

libmagickwand-dev in stretch is a dummy package

>>61091508
>when it boots like a 15 year old WinXP shitbox it's time to reasses these statements don't you think?
why are you blaming systemd for a shitty config now? if you fill your init with garbage, it will boot like win xp eventually.

>>61091514
does it happen after

apt-get build-dep windowmaker

?

>>61091552
windowmaker on debian does not have svg support (that's what need imagemagick) so build-dep doesn't install what's needed for that, that's why I'm trying to compile it myself.

reposted for visibility

>>61087853
So you have a physical location for a bootmgfw.efi? Good.

I'm just guessing at this point. No. I don't think moving that file is a good idea. According to the GRUB wiki entry, /run/media/name/###/Windows/Boot/EFI could be the proper location for W7's bootmgfw.efi. I wouldn't know though.
>These two commands assume the ESP Windows uses is mounted at $esp. There might be case differences in the path to Windows's EFI file, what with being Windows, and all.

If you can locate the efi file, just add a GRUB entry with the adapted path and point it there and see if it works. Use the example entry from https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Windows_installed_in_UEFI-GPT_Mode_menu_entry and adapt it accordingly.

If that works out, you can try to retrack the steps to install GRUB in arch very carefully to see if the script messed up. If you can't manage to make auto-config work, try to find a way to make it honor your manual config for W7.

If none of that helps, remove GRUB, follow follow https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#UEFI_systems to install it again and try to auto config it.

I don't care about systemd, but just a reminder:
when people say that systemd boots faster they are talking about that systemd can start services on parallel which usually means that's going to boot a lot faster that sysvinit, if the services can not start on parallel, (because they need to wait for other services to start) they arent going to be magically faster.

>>61091508

>NetworkManager proving to be an absolutely garbage piece of software

1.292s NetworkManager.service
on my computer.

>>61091740
>le works on my machine
sure thing friend

>>61091508

>thinking speed is the only reason for systemd's existence
>using the speed layman meme

Speed is only cited by absolute retards who know nothing about it as one of the reasons to use systemd. Even laymen like myself can tell that.

>>61091757
>laymen like myself
Then why do you opinionate?

Like I said, systemd alleged speed is always quoted by lennart's drones
>average user doesn't want to deal with init XD
>systemd handles it for him XD
>it's fast mon XD

>>61091804
Just whom or what do you suppose you're arguing against? Your post does not contradict that anon's. It's time for a nice cup of tea.

I keep hearing that nobody likes Unity.

What's so bad about it?

Guys I have a headless Debian 8 torrentbox that I keep somewhere and untouched for a while. Today I tried to do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and I get the following messages.

WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  base-files libcomerr2 e2fslibs e2fsprogs libudev1 udev initramfs-tools libsystemd0 systemd systemd-sysv libss2 libpng12-0 libcairo2
  libgtk2.0-common libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-0 python-crypto debian-archive-keyring tzdata vim vim-tiny vim-runtime vim-common wget w3m
  ca-certificates libfcgi-perl
Install these packages without verification? [y/N]

What do I do? What caused this?

>>61092191
the pgp key probably expired since debian changed stable.
Just download a new key mate.

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>>61092097
Amazon botnet

We're using GoogleDrive at work, but we want to switch to Seafile.

What are the best solutions to keep both "database" in sync (there is people who will continue to use GoogleDrive for some months) on Raspbian or Ubuntu ?

Right now I have google-ocalmfuse to mount GDrive on a folder, RClone to pull GDrive on another folder, and SeaDrive to mount the local Seafile in a folder.
I've tried Unison, FreeFileSync, RSync with ignore, there is always a failure somewhere in the process and it takes a fuckton of times.

>>61092250
>2017

>>61092191
That's funny, usually I fix, not cause, package authentication problems with apt-get update.

The suggested upgrade of debian-archive-keyring supports that other anon's theory. My apt-key shows some keys generated on May this year, maybe you're missing those.

If you don't want to upgrade unsafely, you can fetch those keys from a keyserver and then feed them to apt-key.

Do

apt-key list

, note the email addresses of your expired keys, then do

gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --search-keys $ADDRESS

to find newer versions of the keys. Add them, then export them from gpg to apt-key with

gpg --export $KEY | sudo apt-key add -

error: file owned by 'lib32-libnm-glib' and 'steam-native': 'usr/lib32/libnm-glib-vpn.so'
error: file owned by 'lib32-libnm-glib' and 'steam-native': 'usr/lib32/libnm-glib-vpn.so.1'
error: file owned by 'lib32-libnm-glib' and 'steam-native': 'usr/lib32/libnm-glib.so'
error: file owned by 'lib32-libnm-glib' and 'steam-native': 'usr/lib32/libnm-glib.so.4'
error: file owned by 'lib32-libnm-glib' and 'steam-native': 'usr/lib32/libnm-util.so'
error: file owned by 'lib32-libnm-glib' and 'steam-native': 'usr/lib32/libnm-util.so.2'

I'm getting this whenever I run pacman, it seems benign but I'd rather not have lots of error messages in my terminal
anyone know a fix?

>>61092325
How do I know which ones are expired?

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg
--------------------
pub   4096R/521D8275 2016-04-28
uid                  Christian Svedin <[email protected]>
sub   4096R/B3AF3087 2016-04-28

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/deb-multimedia-keyring.gpg
-------------------------------------------------
pub   4096R/65558117 2014-03-05
uid                  Christian Marillat <[email protected]>
uid                  Christian Marillat <[email protected]>
uid                  Christian Marillat <[email protected]>
sub   4096R/B508B3D7 2014-03-05

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-jessie-automatic.gpg
----------------------------------------------------------
pub   4096R/2B90D010 2014-11-21 [expires: 2022-11-19]
uid                  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (8/jessie) <[email protected]>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-jessie-security-automatic.gpg
-------------------------------------------------------------------
pub   4096R/C857C906 2014-11-21 [expires: 2022-11-19]
uid                  Debian Security Archive Automatic Signing Key (8/jessie) <[email protected]>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-jessie-stable.gpg
-------------------------------------------------------
pub   4096R/518E17E1 2013-08-17 [expires: 2021-08-15]
uid                  Jessie Stable Release Key <[email protected]>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-squeeze-automatic.gpg
-----------------------------------------------------------
pub   4096R/473041FA 2010-08-27 [expires: 2018-03-05]
uid                  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) <[email protected]>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-squeeze-stable.gpg
--------------------------------------------------------
pub   4096R/B98321F9 2010-08-07 [expires: 2017-08-05]
uid                  Squeeze Stable Release Key <[email protected]>

Removed last 2 entries cause too long.

>>61092705
There don't seem to be any expired keys. Connection errors with the repos can cause authentication errors like yours. Do you see any connection problems in the output of apt-get update?

Do those unofficial keys correspond to repos currently active in your sources.list? They'd be prime candidates for having gone down and causing these errors. I've also had this problem with official debian mirrors, too - they can have their downtime sometimes. You can always switch to a different mirror if that is the case.

>>61092674
change permissions on affected files

>>61092782
Oh yeah that's it, my local repo a shit, I switched to .jp and it worked.

Thanks man!

>>61092863
Heh. I've been using German repos for years because my country's are also garbage. Glad you got that fixed.

If i add a user with adduser on ubuntu, will the user be able to break anything, or is he already safely restricted?

>>61092920
it depends on the groups you add him to and how you defined your sudoers

>>61092956
It's all default instalation and added him to no groups i simply did adduser mom, adduser dad and that was that

>KDE
crashes and burns
horrible UI design

>GNOME
no typeahead search in the file manager
gnome-weather's search field works in an absolutely retarded way
no thumbnails in the file picker
slow

why isn't anyone working on a good desktop environment?

>>61093096
Because the perfect DE already exists, it's called XFCE

>>61093096
everyone remotely interested in using GNU/Linux everyday figured out that you waste it's potential by trying to stick with "out of the box" experience, because you got windows for that.

Target audience for both Gnome and KDE are office users.

>>61093127
>XFCE
I think you mean LXDE, it comes with a good WM and other software that is heavily used for ricing like lxappearance.

>>61092969
If they don't know how to sudo it should be fine already. If they do, you might want to check your sudoers settings.

>>61093096
because modularity kills QA

so let me get this straight, LUKS is only good against hardware attacks and to keep anyone from booting in when the system is powered off,
but once decrypted and booted, the system is vulnerable to whatever you may run into on the web like everything else
if I'm setting up a system that no one will ever try to log into, and will only ever keep FOSS software on it, there really is no need to encrypt it, and only a hardened kernel should be my priority
right?

>>61093096
We need Linus Torvalds to stop focusing on the kernel to start the systemd of desktop environment. Centralization is the only way to save gnu+linux for desktop. ONE TO RULE THEM ALL

When ubuntu 17.10 comes out this october, the death of xorg begins. Normalfags are more likely to use LTS than the regular releases and ubuntu 18.04 this april will be a major blow.

>>61093379
>the death of xorg begins
explain please i haven't followed ubuntu at all.

>>61093346
You may have to RMA your hard drive, or it may get stolen. You still have some reasons to encrypt, but not many or very big.

>>61093346
hardened kernel, access policies like selinux and apparmor. There are plenty of ways to secure an installation beyond what you get in a default installation.

Harddrive encryption is one of them.

>>61093379
right now the only usable wayland compositors are sway and gnome not even kde yet.
the death of xorg has begun a long time ago, but sure it's a slow dead.

>>61093403
wayland is supposed to replace xorg

>>61093431
Harddrive encryption only helps against offline attacks, which usually are not a concern.

>>61093449
ubuntu has dropped mir?

Can someone explain snap to me?
Ubuntu Software says I need one of those Ubuntu One accounts and just from the ONE I can tell it's most likely cancer.
Is there a way around it like using a different software center?
Also, can I just use Gnome software center while using Unity?

>>61093465
Yeah, also 17.10 will have GNOME as default DE and 18.04 will drop unity entirely. Ubuntu GNOME has no reason to exist anymore past 17.10.

>>61093479
snap/appimage/whatever is what a Windows installer is. A statically built program with all it's dependencies contained with it.

>>61093465
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir

"The purpose of Mir is to enable the development of the Unity8. "

But Ubuntu is dropping development of Unity. So yeah, Mir is effectively dead.

>>61093494
So do I need an Xbox O...I mean Ubuntu One account for it?

>>61093494
didn't you hear? they can have dependencies now (some 'blessed' packages like gnome runtime) it's like they are remaking a worse version of deb/rpm.

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Can someone explain how is Debian desktop environment different from the ones listed below it?

What is included in standard system utilities?

What u /g/uys think about dropping Unity?
Isnt Unity better for newfags (Ubuntu is 1st distro for many users)?

>>61093530
>What is included in standard system utilities?
Probably CUPS preconfigured to share printer desu

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>>61093523
>"Okay guys, we need to be more comprehensive and independent, how about we make what Windows did."
>"Alright Ben, that sounds great, but what IIIIIIF - and hear me out on this one - what if we made it actually not independent?!"
>"Johnny you are a genius"

>>61093503
>>61093490
isn't the real reason being that canonical is not more interested in mobile phones? which was the only motivation for developing unity and mir? Is wayland really usable?

>>61093523
In some cases it'd be best to install your distro's packages for certain dependencies instead of installing a separate copy.

The fact that dependencies can be included *and* the packages can be installed on practically any linux distro is fantastic and will help make non-ubuntu Linux distros way more user friendly.

>>61093537
Ubuntu as an interface is MUCH better than Gnome.
They should just stick to Mate. It isnt as overpowerful as KDE but not as Babby-tier as Gnome

Canonical dropped Mir, Upstart and recently announced the end of Unity because their business model shifts towards IoT aka put a botnet in every single thing that plugs to power.

>>61093563
those dependencies are not from the distro, the packages are totally independent, which is good but I still find it kind of ironic that they support deps now.
http://flatpak.org/runtimes.html
overall, I think flatpak is good.

>>61093556
damn
sed 's/>What is included in standard system utilities\?/Can someone explain how is Debian desktop environment different from the ones listed below it\?/'

>>61093600
>put a botnet in every single thing
after 'dashgate' they again did something bad?

>>61093417
>>61093431
just as I thought, thanks for confirming

I cannot fucking figure this shit out. I've spent two hours reading forum posts and man pages trying to add win 7 to grub to dual boot

I've done os-prober and it detects windows
I've re- grub-install'ed
I've grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg (update-grub) and it's said it has found windows on sda1 and sda2

Then I tried manually editing sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom:

menuentry "Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)" {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ntfs
set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
chainloader +1
}

and it still doesn't show up on the boot menu

Can anyone give me any pointers?

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>>61093636

>>61090468
Neat, it's even in the Fedora repos. Imagine that!

Going to fork it and play around with it.

gentoo having a firefox-bin package should have warned me. 18 hours later i'm still not done.

>>61093636
>>61093660
"Debian Desktop Env" only install xorg, basically.

>>61093431
>>61093417
>>61093346
secufags, i run GUI apps as onother user ( https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Simple_sandbox )
is connecting untrusted apps to my xserver dangerous? (i know it can keylog and prntscrn)

>>61093688
>>61093707
>Using GUI
>While Emacs exist

So I just installed a snap app called "shotcut" on Ubuntu 16.04. and I dunno how to start it. It doesn't show up in my Software center or when using the searchbar. How do I run it?

>>61093688
>only install xorg
b-but i luv KDE

>>61093736
type into Terminal
$ man shotcut
or
$ shotcut --help

/g/uys, what is point of using tools like rootkithunter?
i mean to install rootkit you have to be root (no?) so you can kill rootkithunter
>>61093643
https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair/

>>61091394
how can you know for sure if you use lvm?

>>61086933
Hello /fglt/ i'm seriously considering switching to linux from windows.
Is there seriously any reason to not do this ? If we look from an open minded perspective? Will i be able to play all my vidya games?
Is it hard for a new user to use the OS without reading up on everything ?

>>61090972
can you view the pictures when you go to /catalog? If so, how?

>>61091804

>Then why do you opinionate?
Because you don't have to be an expert to realize that. Just like you don't have to be an expert biologist to know that humans can't live without breathing.

>>61093841
>any reason to not do this
no.
>Will i be able to play all my vidya games?
if u rly have to play muh gamez use dualboot.
Is it hard for a new user to use the OS without reading up on everything ?
it depends on distro.
Use Ubuntu then switch to 'whatever (you) like

>>61093867
>without breathing
We can use oxginated gel to provide out self with oxygen,like we did in the women.This is also common for deep sea divers to have this gel in case they have problems deep in the water.

>tfw still on 4.9 kernel
Debian unstable my ass, where is 4.11? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

where can I find qt themes ?

>>61093759
>shotcut --help
ln: failed to create symbolic link '/home/enngee/snap/shotcut/9/.local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.desktop.screensaver.gschema.xml': File exists
As I said, Software center told me to make an "Ubuntu One" account and I said "fuck it" to that

Are the Fedora Security Lab a good OS to use daily?

>>61094435
It's just a normal fedora xfce installation with tools preinstalled so you can use it as a livecd.
Just install all the tools you need from the repositories.

>>61094358
>>shotcut --help
>ln: failed to create symbolic link '/home/enngee/snap/shotcut/9/.local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.desktop.screensaver.gschema.xml': File exists
you mean when you typed $(shotcut --help) it wrote that shit?
>Software center told me to make an "Ubuntu One"
Im not ubuntufag, if they force anything, dont use it.
remember, you can use Synaptic or apt-get directly.

>>61093643
>>61093823
still no luck
incredibly frustrating, as linux is by nature.

>>61094616
>still no luck
random tip:
do you use separated boot partition?
do you mount it before makin changes?
>incredibly frustrating, as linux is by nature.
DELET THIS

how do i switch language to english for my account only in ubuntu terminal?

I'm looking to get into Linux again (I've got some minor prior experience). Am trying Elementary OS on a live CD as I'm writing but I'm not liking it. Leaning towards Ubuntu or Mint, but what's the difference between just using Ubuntu with Cinnamon and using Linux Mint?

>>61094679
yes and yes. very annoyed at the moment. I can only boot into windows by forcing it from the grub cli

insmod chain
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,1)
chainloader +1
boot

>>61090019

function topp()
{
#    USAGE: topp <full or partial name of process(es)>
    top -Hp $(pgrep -d, "$1")
}

>>61094707
LANG=POSIX

>>61094707
only in the terminal?
export LANG=en_US.UTF-8

>>61094710
different wallpapers, mint has crippled security

>>61094779
>different wallpapers
So basically, there's no reason to use Mint over Ubuntu+Cinnamon?

>>61094791
pretty much

>>61094719
<newfag>can you fus these commands as menu entry?</newfag>

>>61094844
'fus/just add'

>>61094779
>mint has crippled security
can you eleborate?

>>61094907
no apparmor profile.
Their website got attacked, isos and hashes replaced and noone fucking noticed.

I'm fairly sure if you looked you'd find more, I don't like engaging in pointless distro wars though since I use neither of them so just recommending what's objectively better even if the difference is marginal

>>61094954
>isos and hashes replaced and noone fucking noticed.
fug...
btw what the fuck is point in adding hash (instead GPG sig?)

How do I pipe the ouput of ls as arguments?

I was thinking something like

ls | echo

to make it print out the name of each file on a newline but it doesn't work like that

>>61095266
ls | more

>>61095266
$(ls)

>>61095266
Turns out what I was looking for is xargs

ls | xargs cat

Will print out the contents of all files from ls

>>61095090
basic level verification. Say someone handed you an iso you didn't download.
Even if it's not really secure it gives you some confidence that at least the iso wasn't somehow corrupted doing download. Just compare the hashes and off you go.

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I need a way to extract text from a pdf and sort the lines out according to numbers in one column
I remember that someone posted something that converts pdfs to text files here

I mounted an HDD into my home folder so i could partake in some of my disgusting porn collection thinking i was safe. I mean it's my home folder only i have the access there.
Imagine my shock when i realized that other users who no special right or anything could browse into my home folder and look at the files on the hdd. What the fucking fuck.
I thought linux was supposed to be secure.

>>61095467
It is secure. But by default data ain't private (like on Windows).

>>61095448
search for pdf to plaintext utilities, then use awk and sort.

>>61095467
Anyone can mount the HDD so there wouldn't really be any idea in making it like that anywasy

>>61090898
Before you start:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.en.html
How to break out:
https://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html
Google Play alternative:
https://f-droid.org/
A free'd version of Android:
http://replicant.us/

tl;dr The Android which comes with phones is not only nonfree, but also a horrible botnet. Doe to the lack of firmware, Replicant is only supported for a few devices. Don't create a Google account, install F-Droid and let's hope the situation will be better in the future.

So this was pretty weird, I like my music loud so the volume is always at least 90% and because I buy exclusively cheap hardware I always fear my headphones will eventually malfunction. So I was watching something on Jewtube (rms I am sorry) and the video voice sounded weird like you know those old video games voices.
I plug my headphone on my cellphone and play it trough NewPipe and my headphones worked ok, so I dualbooted to windows and it worked ok.
Now that I restarted my computer it works ok.

Could it be (((PulseAudio))) or some ubuntu quirk?

>>61095467
1st; umask 0007
2nd encrypt it.

>>61095482
>>61095518
>>61095556
>replying

>>61095556
umask 0077

>>61095553
PA most likely

>>61091193
mpv

Im running CubLinux my pipemenu for applications isnt working and windows drag and arent removed when I use a dual monitor setup. Any help Ive already tried the apt-get update/upgrade and -fix-missing. It does say plymouth isnt found or xlce on startup if that helps.

>>61095596
this, just lerned how to download from youtube, work even when dwhelper fails

>>61095518
I'm pretty sure you need to sudo if you want to mount shit

>>61095642
just turn off the pc and either dual-boot into windows or use your own linux usb derp

>>61095565
uh. i posted 0007 cuz i use poorsanbox (su), i want some files to be accesable for another users when i copy files into GID dirs.

>>61094719
>it doesn't show up
wait, so it's actually about menu entries? get some grub config editor and fix it there.

>>61095266
>>61095292
>>61095404
Don't. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs

What the fuck is SYSV IPC?
Is it something I can enable/disable recompiling the kernel?

>>61095682
I set umask to 0077 and I have a script that set all my permissions when needed. But by default I want privacy.

>>61095448
pdftotext

>>61095727
leave it

Is there a cli utility for GNU like wget/curl which can torrent?

>>61095730
>But by default I want privacy.
umask 0007 provide privacy too. i didnt add anyone to my group.
(but ofc 0007 is pointless if you dont use poorsandbox)

>>61095771
aria2

>>61095785
I don;'t create personal user group. All my users belong to group users.

why doesn't setuid work with shell scripts

>>61095727
it's probably a type of inter-process communication that was used in sys v unix

>>61095881
Because the setuid bit is on the script, not on the shell binary that will be run. So it's totally useless.

By the way, you don't really know what is shell (nobody knows) so avoid root script run by arbitrary user. Security issue are of two kind: evalstr and bufferoverflow (bufferoverflow leads to evalstr).

>>61095771
transmission-daemon + transmission-remote

>>61095932
oh, that makes sense. thank you.

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good thread

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So i installed ubuntu like 3 days ago and i need someone to hold my had and explain me shit

1)
W: The repository 'cdrom://Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release i386 (20170215.2) xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
E: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release i386 (20170215.2)/dists/xenial/main/binary-i386/Packages Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

getting this when:
sudo apt-get update

2)how installing stuff in terminal works?
why i can type
sudo apt-get install tree
but cant
sudo apt get install spotify

3)
when i boot up my computer it asks for password frezzes then i log in and it ask me if i want to report something and after 1-2 sec report window closes

4)
how to dissable double border in pic related.

thanks

>>61096022
1) Your sources.list contains links to use installation CD as a repository

>sudo apt get install spotify
here's no spotify package

>ask me if i want to report something
"something"

Is there any ARM as powerful as Common x86_64?
Yes im about backdoors.
>>61095998
$(true)

>>61096022
>why i can type
>sudo apt-get install tree
>but cant
>sudo apt get install spotify

Arguments are seperated by spaces, so "apt-get" is one argumetn, whereas "apt get" becomes "apt"+"get". That doesn't work.

Whats the best solution for: decrypt -> edit -> encrypt passwords.txt.gpg?

>>61096022
>why i can type
>sudo apt-get install tree
>but cant
>sudo apt get install spotify
It's a feature.

>>61096545
bump
can keepassx handle file? (any plugin?)

>>61096545
https://www.passwordstore.org/
Exactly the same thing, just automated.

>>61096559
Thanks.

>>61096559
wow. thanks.
UNIX is really great thing

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>>61096572

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61096606
youtube-dl
ffmpeg
kdialog (KDE)
wgetpaste

>>61096674
scpy

>>61096606
bc <<< whatever you want to calculate

$ bc <<< 191*7
1337

What's a light weight DE that doesn't have screen tearing like xfce and gnome?
Also I'd rather not use compiz or any other third party compositors.

>>61096756
Retard friendly tut: http://www.basicallytech.com/blog/archive/23/command-line-calculations-using-bc/

>>61096766
Do you really think there are DEs which have screen tearing and DEs which don't?

reminder to sudo apt autoremove if you have a separate boot partition
>spent 20 minutes deleting old kernels

>>61096807
kde didn't, xfce does, gnome does.

>>61096766
compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --vsync opengl-swc

>>61096756
>>61096769
right off the bat it's worth aliasing bc -l to bc.

so what's the deal with Ubuntu now? Is it proprietary anymore or not? If it is, how would one go about "debugging" it and how is Ubuntu Core much different from it? Because this ( https://nextcloud.com/box/ ) claims to ship with Ubuntu Core but I don't want my cloud to ship with spyware when I've already been trying to avoid spyware to begin with.

OK, I know I'm asking retarded questions but bear with me.

My 60GiB HDD told me he is going to die. Is it possible to make a image of my system (with all programs, documents, etc), so I can installl it in another disk? And how?

Running Debian.

>>61096848
I actually use
alias ?='bc -l <<<'

>>61096859
dd
clonezilla

>>61096851
I have no fucking clue whatsoever what are you interested with.

>>61096851
>cloud
it's just a computer connected to the internet anon.
Since the 1970 the term "server" was and is still used to refer to these types of machines.

>>61096812
kek
>>61096896
what will happen after i dd partition to bigger partition ?

>>61096947
Youll have one partition of its size and the rest unused space.You can then extend the partition to consume the free space

>>61096959
thanks

>>61096947
thannks for asking something I forgot to ask.

>>61096897
>>61096927
I'm asking about spyware, anons.

>>61096982
what spyware? Where?

>>61096998
Is Ubuntu packed with spyware like other proprietary shit is ie Google, Windows, etc? Should I worry about it if I get the thing I linked?

>>61096959
>extend the partition
# parted #?
thanks
>>61096981
np
>>61096998
ubuntu had spyware in dash, but imo they wont do such dumb thinks again. (but i dont use it anymore :v )

>>61097020
Do you even know the difference between the term "proprietary" concerning software and spyware?

>>61097020
everything is spyware, this website could be spyware

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>>61097020
ubuntu isnt proprietary.
many open source things have google code (sadly in this world you cant say that such big corpo is whole bad)

>>61097041
>>61097065
I'm just trying to avoid fuckin Uncle Sam looking at my shit as much as I fucking can.

I know Ubuntu has stirred controversy so I was curious.

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have they?

>>61097073
>I'm just trying to avoid fuckin Uncle Sam looking at my shit
You can't. If they want your info, they will get it no matter what you do.

>mfw i hear someone pronounce GNU, gi-nu
I hope you don't do this /g/.

>>61097073
Ubuntu stirred controversy by shipping Amazon search features with Unity desktop (by all means spyware).
This feature could be removed by either simply uninstalling the relevant package or using an Ubuntu version that doesn't ship with Unity. I have no clue whether it's relevant as of today since I haven't used this horseshit in the last 3 years but Canonical scrapped Unity and the new version of Ubuntu will ship with Gnome by default.

Uncle Sam spies on you anyways as long as you stay connected to the network but if you are concerned whether he has direct access to the shit on your drive then no, he doesn't.

You would've known this if you used your brain and an internet browser. Your stupidity is not a strong asset in fighting with Uncle Sam.

AND THE FUCKING OP HAS A LINK TO ALL THE RELEVANT RESOURCES YOU DUMB FUCK.

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>>61097108
*but WE ALL have to make it AS EXPENSIVE AS POSSIBLE.
http://retroshare.net/

>>61097118
I say ghnooo with silent h

>>61097132
THIS IS LITERALLY ALL I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU ANON.

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>>61097151
NO PROBLEM MAN ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE AND NEVER EVER GIVE UP

>>61097146
I guarantee you that program is compromised. Hacking "anonymous" shit like that is a priority for spooks. It's much better to just use normie stuff and try to blend in with the crowd. If you need to keep shit secret from the government then don't put it on a computer period.

>>61097222
goim many people use facebook here so everything will be better, since you didnt fond b@c|<d00r dont say it is there

>>61097263
"everything will/ANYTHING WOLD BE'

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>>61097263
>>61097294
Stop being a faggot.

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>>61097320
CIA nigger detected

>>61097172
>>61097172
>>61097172

What cflags am i missing?

CFLAGS="-march=native -mtune=native -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -fstack-protector-strong -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -fno-lifetime-dse -fno-schedule-insns2 -mcx16 -mpopcnt -pipe -fno-plt -fstack-check -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2"

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so I just installed arch linux
what now

>>61097431
Enjoy life

>>61097431
install gentoo

>>61097431
rice

>>61097431
uninstall systemd

hi /fglt/, are there any good strategy games on GNU/linux? I don't know shit about vidya I'm just looking for something funny

>>61097431
install source mage

>>61097538
0ad maye?

Is there a way to download images faster in bash?

I mean, wget is nice and all, but I wonder if you can achieve the same thing with rsync?

tl;dr: How can you download images on http with rsync?

>>61097562
aria2

>>61097412
>'-O3'
u sure?
also copied, thanks anon.
>>61097538
warzone2100
rly cool.

>>61097587
Interesting, I'll try it out. But can it download specific files? Or is it designed to download everything?

I'm just making a 4chin image downloader in bash. I'm getting the API form the thread, piping everything, saving it to a file then downloading them.

What downloader do you think is more suitable for this task?

>>61097561
it looks perfect with romans and everything, I'm gonna try this, neat thx

>>61097639
I mean the thread JSON.

>>61097639
i may be wrong but the only way to speedup download is swarm download (torrent,retroshare,GNUnet) but if only (You) download staff no one can help

>>61097637
>warzone2100
looks cool too I'll try both thx

>>61097685
Oh yeah you're right. I got the idea for rsync wrong I guess.

wget it is then. Thanks, aria2 looks interesting too.

>>61097700
>rsync
dude, i just building rpi`based backup server it probably fits perfect

>>61097743
Yeah but that's mostly to copy files from one place to another. I don't know if it's for just downloading pictures off http/https

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>>61097795
>install kali
>access remote shell
>use rsync
>profit

Installing Solus with GNOME. I'll never touch *buntu shit ever again. Fucking Canonical. Sold out to Micros**t

How do I fix

1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Setting up linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u1) ...
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools:
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-686-pae
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8106e-2.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8106e-1.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8411-2.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8411-1.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8402-1.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-2.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-1.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168e-1.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw for module r8169
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub:
Generating grub configuration file ...
/etc/grub.d/00_header.save: 238: /etc/grub.d/00_header.save: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub exited with return code 2
Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae.postinst line 634.
dpkg: error processing package linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae (--configure):

why doesn't gentoo have the option of using binary packages like the BSDs do? Maybe I could actually use it then.

>>61097562
>faster
You can only download as fast as your connection.

Is there a cli program that will download from google drive? I dont have a repot and i dont need to use it for uploading, just downloading from someoneelses drive

>>61097917
What's the point of using Gentoo without tormenting yourself with endless compile times?

>>61098003
no systemd

>>61098014
Install Devuan.

>>61097900
use a REAL operating system like Arch Linux™

>>61098014
install void, crux or slackware

>>61097900
apt install firmware-realtek

>>61098065
>slackware
fuck no

>>61098079
why

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>>61098091

>>61086933
since Android is already based on linux would it be possible to run some other linux distro on an android phone and still be able to load android apks onto it?

>>61098114
>gives freedom
>doesn't want freedom
Is enabling stuff before installation that hard?

>>61098210
There are apps for installing Linux chroots. If you want to use anything other than terminal or ssh they was an app to start an X11 server in a window too. Fairly minimal integration between the two systems though.

>>61098234
enabling them won't do shit unless you want a broken ffmpeg. Enjoy installing everything else by hand

>>61098278
that's cool, but I was thinking more along the lines of a still useable smartphone except with open-source software

>>61093643
grub doesn't always recognize windows
worked for me only with certain distros
you can always just boot it from he bios directly

>>61098293
Why do you want everything installed to begin with? I only have lame installed with ffmpeg

>>61098429
so I can actually use it

also how does slackware give you freedom when the recommended way to install it is to install everything?

>>61098076
Thank you!

>>61098210
>since Android is already based on linux would it be possible to run some other linux distro on an android
oh god is this real life

>>61098364
Android is open source.

>>61098863
it's not

-> >>61098914

>>61098210
The main problem with that is that android depends on its shitty hacked up libc that any other distro would choke on. And you can't just drop dalvic on ubuntu and expect the phone to work as it used to because android also has a fairly idiosyncratic userspace meant to get the hardware running and organized for dalvic.

So in theory, yes. But in practise it would be one hell of a job to get everything from the two different form factors working together.

>>61098924
https://source.android.com/

>>61098210
Andoid already runs a linux distro; it's not based on a "Linux OS" which you could install on Adroid. Linux is the kernel, running in Android.

>>61098981
nice meme

>>61097538
Civ 5