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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
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$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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FIRST for:
busybox
musl
clang
GNU FREE OS
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Second for destroy capitalism!
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>>61062652
Whats the point of this?
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>>61062672
Not being KEKED by gnu and stallman's nonsense
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>>61062652
Call me when the kernel can be compiled without gcc, true freedom would be able to use even the plan 9 compiler to compile the linux kernel.
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arch user talking about bloat are like audiophiles talking about sound quality.
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A friendly reminder that all phones (even Android) are non-free garbage
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>>61062694
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.
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>>61062694
musl can compile the kernel.
Sabotage is such an distro in which musl is used to build the kernel
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>>61062714
>implying Linux isn't an operating system
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not related to gnu/linux but tell me what you think about Vultr
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What distro does she use, /fglt/?
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I can ssh into my loonix htpc from windows with putty, but how can i connect to the htpc with full gui? like remote desktop for windows
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>>61062729
clang can't compile the kernel
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>>61062744
slackware
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>install Arch with GNOME
>everything smooth as butter outside of some annoying GNOME bugs
>for some reason video playback lags on every player even though I have current GPU drivers
this is so disappointing
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>>61062733
Mail me at "[email protected]" if you have any questions.

Sadly, a kernel by itself gets you nowhere. To get a working system you
need a shell, compilers, a library etc. These are separate parts and may
be under a stricter (or even looser) copyright. Most of the tools used
with linux are GNU software and are under the GNU copyleft. These tools
aren't in the distribution - ask me (or GNU) for more info.

<http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/linux/historical/kernel/old-versions/RELNOTES-0.01>
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>>61062383
>>61062735
I replied to you in the last thread.
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>>61062741
I had a vm there, I wasn't going to use for a while so I stopped it. a few weeks later I received an email that my balance was negative.
turns out they charge you anyway even is the vm is stopped, unlike aws.
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>>61062765
Nice meme
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>>61062760
video driver?
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>>61062777
oh that's not cool. how was the quality of service when you were using it? up to what they claimed?
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>>61062765
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.
Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.
One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?
(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever.
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>>61062797
I have whatever the latest nvidia one is
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2nd for manjaro
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>>61062714
In 1998 when a United Airlines plane was waiting in the queue at Washington Dulles International Airport for take-off to New Orleans (where a Usenix conference was taking place), one man stood up from his seat, demanded that they stop waiting in the queue and be permitted to deplane. Even after orders from the crew and a pilot from the cockpit he refused to sit down. The plane exited the queue and returned to the airport gangway. Security personnel ran onto the plane and removed this man, Richard Stallman, from the plane. After Richard was removed from the plane, everyone else stayed onboard and continued their journey to New Orleans. A few OpenBSD developers were on that same plane, seated very closeby, so we have an accurate story of the events.

This is the man who presumes that he should preach to us about morality, freedom, and what is best for us. He believes it is his God-given role to tell us what is best for us, when he has shown that he takes actions which are not best for everyone. He prefers actions which he thinks are best for him -- and him alone -- and then lies to the public. Richard Stallman is no Spock.

We release our software in ways that are maximally free. We remove all restrictions on use and distribution, but leave a requirement to be known as the authors. We follow a pattern of free source code distribution that started in the mid-1980's in Berkeley, from before Richard Stallman had any powerful influence which he could use so falsely.
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>>61062799
I didn't do much, so I don't have an opinion.
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>>61062843
big if true.
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>>61062843
This is the only option. Switch to Fedora, stop tinkering with low-level problems every time I try to make sure newbies know what you whiny fucks wanted? Is utorrent 2.2.1/2.0.4 ever going to be known as the 600s but why would you not recommend those?
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>>61062672

Disregard him. He doesn't actually use those things together. He just read somewhere that they exist and he thinks they're cool and edgy, so he keep roleplaying on here that he's using them and "special".
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>>61062858
alright well thanks anyway
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Holy shit I just ssh"ed into my router for the first time. What can i do? Can it play gaymes???
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>>61062959
Both phones can be had for the same price tag but for sure not un-playable tier. This may finally prompt me to buy something more specialist.
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>>61062652
>clang
Why not GCC?
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>>61062959
This is beyond stupity. Holy crap.
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>>61062741
I don't watch cartoons, sorry.
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>>61063000
probably doom, maybe skyrim
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>>61062927
I use sabotage,alpine and devuan on my machines.
I dont need gnu for anything
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>>61063050
It's called "propaganda", son.
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>>61062805
DELET THIS
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>>61063070
>devuan
lmao, what a retard
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>>61063070
>devuan
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>>61062714
This. Don't say Linux when you mean to say GNU/Linux, and there won't be any issues when you say Linux and mean the kernel.
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>>61063110
systemd faggot.
No one needs that nonsense
>noone on the dev team uses that feature,of our our project,so we need a patch
GREAT DEVELOPER
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>>61063180
I laughed because you have no clue about what you're copy pasting.
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screenfetch or neofetch and why?
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people who hate gnu software should just use bsd.
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>>61063231
bsd is shit
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>>61063231
Why should one hate GNU software?
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>>61063231
>mfw BSD doesn't have as many drivers as Linux
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>>61063293
because its directly related to autistic stallman.And i dont want to feed his fuel that he owns the Linux environment because he has 2% of the programs installed on it
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>>61063231
Actually the only people who hate GNU are BSD people (which should actually be thankful to RMS that they aren't still proprietary).
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Thoughts on systemd?
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>>61063356
>>61063180
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>>61063356
Don't take the bait.
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>>61063315
Stallman doesn't develop any software anymore.
you seem to care more about politics than the software itself, just like the SJW people.
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>>61063364
I'm just trying to derail the "Free software is shit" ride.
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>>61063371
I despise stallman and the bullshit he pulls.
Its not gnushit/Linux.
Its Linux.
I use a Linux environment.
He was popular in the 80's for making gnu and emacs.He has NOTHING ELSE TO HIS FUCKING NAME since the 80's.Yet he parades around with his "oughts" and imposes himself on everyone else.
He is a washed up hasbeen that deserves nothing

pic related.Its him sperging out at a conference last year in south america
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>>61063356
Im currently installing gentoo with systemd
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I want to run a headless torrent box at home. What is a good way for sharing/transfering files in a GNU/Linux environment? Something like folder sharing in Windows, but I don't want to use Samba because I have no Windows machines.
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>>61063414
nfs
ftp
sftp
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>>61063410
why gentoo?
why systemd?
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>>61063403
>I despise stallman and the bullshit he pulls.
Then you are not welcome in this board.
Kindly fuck off.
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>>61063417
>>61063414
rsync
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>>61063424
Learn proper grammar faggot
gnu/Linux Thread
gnu OR Linux thread
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>>61063442
It's read "GNU *PLUS* Linux"
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>>61063454
forward slash (ˈfɔːwəd slæʃ)
noun
The symbol /, used to represent 'or' and in the names of internet websites
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/forward-slash
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MARCH 15
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>>61063421
It's a crappy old 32 bit laptop that doesn't even have a working optical drive. I want to squeeze out whatever performance I can, so i went for gentoo. I use systemd because I'm already used to it and currently there's no competitive alternative to it.
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>>61063515
openrc
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>>61063515

Enjoy the 0,04% performance boost in certain aspects and the 10000% increase of package installation time.
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>>61063546
Nice meme
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>>61063562
It's not a meme, its fact
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>>61063546
Anon, do you install 4000 packages every day?
do you reinstall you OS weekly?
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>>61063568
>If I repeat the lie as often as possible, people will start to take it as fact
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>>61063599
You are going to gain abysmal "performance" gain.No matter what USE flags or C flags you use, its minor "performance" gain.Even on bigger packages like browsers its minimal at best.
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>>61063574

No, but I update 20 packages weekly. There's a high probability that one of the bigger ones will be amongst them. Compiling GTK3 for example takes almost 30 minutes on my CPU and my CPU is significantly better than his.
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>>61063630
Sometimes default packages has features that the user didn't want or didn't enable features that they wanted, that's the convenience of compiling your packages.
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>>61063519
openrc isn't at a point where it could beat systemd.

>>61063546
i'm installing gentoo. i don't care about package installation time.
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how the fuck do i type @ on linux? a + 64 is not working, nor is ctrl + alt + v... super annoying
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>>61063670
that depends on your keyboard layout
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>>61063666
Im not arguing compiling them your self.But you arent going to be modifying every package.
The performance "gain" is a meme.
Sure enable or disable shit but dont act like your shit is going to perform 100000X faster

>>61063667
openrc is way better then systemd shit, and its a proper sysinit system and not a parasite binary blob inducing clusterfuck that is systemd

I want my init system to be an init system.Not an entire binary blob ecosystem with bloat
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>>61063714
I've seen more false flags go on about muh performance increase than actual gentoo users.
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>>61063714
Systemd people are not trying to make a init. the are making an OS, systemd/linux
that's good or bad, but it's just a matter of time before there is a systemd-libc, systemd-shell, etc.
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>>61063782
They were an init system before pottering got a red hat contract and started fucking everything up
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>>61063714

>binary blob
>binary binary large object

How to spot someone who's only parrotting memes he saw on here or elsewhere. You know nothing about the topic you're taking a stance about. You're pathetic and embarrassing.
Kill yourself you idiot.
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>>61063714
you're arguing on a philosophical level. i fully know that it's proper unix philosophy. systemd is not, but also with purpose. they want to keep these features together to make it faster and less shit. right now it's working better than the 'proper' modular alternatives. having systemd around is good because it forces other developers to make their stuff better.

also, if my system will be just a little bit less slow, i'm satisfied.
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>>61063792
sure, it's 2017, complaining that systemd is bloated is missing the point.
systemd people want an integrated OS, like the bsd's and windows, like it or not that's what they are doing and they have been pretty clear about that.
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>>61063799
Logs are binary and are constant corrupted despite proper system management.
Having a 5gb binary log thats corrupted despite telling journald to only allocate 5m for TEXT LOGS.

weew lad
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If i want to give access to a hdd to two users, do i just mount the hdd twice into both of their home dirs?
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there is a strong correlation between people that talk about bloat like is some kind of abstract art and retards.
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>>61063841

>changing the topic

Not that it helps, you're still an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. What do you know about files? I don't know much, but I know that everything is binary, just that you have more tools which happen to know how to make sense out of those UTF-8 encoded text files. You obviously don't. You think "binary" is some magic bad word because other people told you so.
You don't even know about the advantages "binary" logs have. You most likely don't even read logs. Also it's not one big file, idiot, there's something called file rotation.

Holy shit, I don't know much, but I know enough to realize how stupid you are with your parroted claims. Maybe it's time for you to go on a blog now and copy paste more opinions you find cool? No?
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>>61063886
Binary logs need an external tool to be read,as they are binary data and not plain text.

With other init systems and other logging systems i can use my text editor of choice and look at the files.With systemd i am restricted to using journald as it has the proper way to read the binary logs.

I know you're really trying her to nit pick certain things instead of responding to the entirety of the post, but its simply not going to work,and you look foolish
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Please be civil. I know having to read parroted opinions daily is tiresome and rage inducing, but this is supposed to be a friendly thread. Be the better person by replying in a civil manner and informing the other about their mistakes and uncritical assumptions.
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>>61063843
the proper way is to have the users in the same group (remember users can be in multiple groups) and gave group permission to the hd, and mount it wherever you want.
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>>61063961
Í see, thanks.
Also where is that file into which i can put my mount command so it gets mounted automatically at boot so i don't have to type mount every time?
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>>61063987
fstab
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>>61063987
You can put commands to run at boot in /etc/rc.local but for mounting volumes you should configure them in /etc/fstab rather than automate a mount command.
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>>61063479
JUNE 24
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>>61063958

Plain text files need an "external tool" as well, idiot. What do you think cat, tail or your text editor are? Plain text is binary data too, you idiot. Everything is.

>With other init systems and other logging systems i can use my text editor of choice and look at the files.
You can do that too here, idiot. There is something called pipes, idiot.

No, I am not nitpicking, I am telling you that you're an idiot who knows nothing, but who is so cocky and smug by adopting opinions he sees online to feel smart.
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>>61064078
God you're fucking retarded
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>>61062669
Communists are filthy niggers.
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why everytime systemd comes up both sides just end up parroting things?
systemd is just like communism vs capitalism discussion, people become idiots whenever it comes up.
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distros to avoid
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I reinstalled Debian and forgot to backup my fstab, how do I add Btrfs subvolumes to it?
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>>61064160
Because systemd is LITERAL cancer and other people host it without knowing the damage it is doing to their system
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What is a "UNIX Sysadmin"?
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>>61064216
that one lonly guy running cat | grep on a rhel serverfarm at midnight
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>>61064200
It's not doing damage to a system.
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>>61064183
Why to avoid OpenSUSE?
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>>61062748
Look into vnc
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>>61064216
Macfags.
>>61064183
I wonder how the screenfetch devel feels about this.
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>>61064268
How about when Linus had to remove the debug string because it caused systemd to fail to boot?
What about that patch buddy?
A kernel developer should not have to patch working systems just so systemd dosent break
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>>61063356
It's fast and incredibly easy to write service files.
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>>61064298
Kernel developers should't commit patches which break the Systemd operating system.
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>>61064319
They didnt change anything in the kernel.
It had been there for years.
Systemd broke and it had to be patched so systemd could boot
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>>61064160
It looks that way to you because the most notable of such arguments are often started by parties that want to make it look that way. I've been to a few where systemd detractors presented their arguments in a calm and coherent way while refusing to fall for provocations, and then systemd proponents, who had been growing increasingly heated until that point, suddenly stopped posting. Some people really want to start incoherent flamewars in order to discredit their opponents.
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>>61064028
MARCH 15
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>>61063468
>us
>proper grammar
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>waste 4 hours trying to figure out why i can't login into samba even though my user name and password are correct
>find out you have to create separate user and password for samba
wow such a splendid design.. wow
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random fun fact: the guy who made linux is called linus
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>>61064394
No, that's the best way to do it. I do not like when app use my login systems when they shouldn't (I'm looking at you CUPS).
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>>61064298
that's from 2014 and got fixed. where does systemd damage to a system?
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What's so great about RHEL that everyone seems to use it?
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so i did
sudo passwd -d mygf
to remove password from her account so she can just click her name to loging, but when i test it with
su - mygf
it asks for passwrod and when i hit enter it says wrong password
what am i doing wrong?
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Hi guys! I was wondering if someone uses Debian and LXC to guide me a little. Debian guide makes me a little confused. Thanks anons.
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>>61064572
Try to log directly with her login. I do it for my wife and my son and it works.
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>>61064544
support contracts.
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>>61064544
for a long time it was the only big company that gave support lines to enterprises, so if your IT guys didn't knew what the heck was going on (as most IT guys) they could blame on other people.

As for today, on the enterprise is really hard to make changes, unless everything gets broken. The bigger it is, the harder it becomes to do so.
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>>61064423
Big if true.
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>>61064394
It doesn't need to be a seperate account, you just need to set the samba password for your existing unix user.
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What is the free software equivalent for adobe animate?
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>>61064585
uh, I just installed and lxd on my gentoo box and I'm downloading a centos image, what do you want to know?
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>>61064769
Well, Debian hadn't include LXD yet so I'm left alone just with LXC (what shouldn't be an issue)

Right now I'm trying to create some testing container to get some practice but I guess I need to prepare my siste to run lxc-create without sudo, right?
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what is the best torrent client for the penguin?
preferably something that has web interface or good terminal support
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>>61064748
Blender probably
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>>61064808
Deluge has cli and web ui
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>>61064808
gentoo
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What is the best terminal emulator?
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>>61064808
transmission is good enough.
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>>61064862
IMO they are all pretty similar so I just use what comes with my DE.
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>>61064862
If you don't care, just use whatever comes with your favorite DE.
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>>61064862
Hyper is the future.
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If blizzard ported all their games to GNU/Linux, would that be enough to have the year of desktop linux?
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>>61064862
I want to use either xterm or urxvt, but they're pretty old, and I have a lot of manuals to read if I want to master them, so I always procrastinate. I'm using Terminator now.
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>>61064975
Terminator is bretty gud.
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>>61064955
So long as the majority of people are OK with their software using them instead of the opposite, the year of the GNU/Linux* desktop will never come.
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>>61064975
if you want to use a minimal term that is also good, you could try termite.
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>>61064955
That would probably help alot, but Blizzard hates anything freedom.
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>>61064862
What about the terminal emulator that comes with Enlightenment (I forgot its name), I think it can display images.
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>>61062714
Fuck that period where rms was going around shilling his chink mips-powered laptop that barely musters more strength than a gameboy to people was horrible.

>here silly spic, look at how great this laptop running Free (TM)(R) software is!
>get this pocket calculator out of my face you smelly kike
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>>61065041
I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I simply get the correct cap profile, right? And the answers are usually elitist and made it accessible to the poor onboard sound? I agree it's too simple, but that's not the point of this thread.
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>>61065084
This is a SFW board you idiot!
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>>61065084
You might get some performance boost. Also this is a blue board.
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>>61065105
>>61065116

like if anyone is in a office at the moment
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>>61064815
>previously used adobe products
Anon will probably hate blender. Even if it is the best tool for the job.
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>>61065105
this, I just lost my job because of >>61065084
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>>61065182
Cool, I got promoted.
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Stop dual booting.
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>>61065214
ok
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>>61065214
Go away varg
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Is using wine dangerous? What's the worst malware could do to my GNU/Linux machine if I installed wine so certain programs could be used on GNU/Linux.
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>>61065214
Start duel booting.
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>>61065437
wannacry works on wine.
if you dont give wine write permission to outside of WINEPREFIX you have nothing to worry, but that's not the default.
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>>61065464
You to set up wine securly? Is there a quide?
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>>61065464
Can programs from outside of WINEPREFIX access the WINEPREFIX directory?
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>>61065494
yes
>>61065492
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/wine#Running_Wine_under_a_separate_user_account
that should work on most distos.
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How can I set up a "dumb" user for doing unsafe shit?
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>>61065530
Thanks man.
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>>61065530
I think I'll just make a special wine user, it won't be able to fuck up anything outside of my home directory because it isn't being ran as root and it'll only fuck up the special home directory if it does.
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>>61065533
That's what VMs are for.
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>>61065533
useradd unsafeman
this creates user unsafeman that only has permissions to /home/unsafeman
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What are some cool terminal commands?
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what shell do you use and why?
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>>61065695
ssh sshtron.zachlatta.com

https://github.com/zachlatta/sshtron
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>>61065695
you can abuse pv for animating text
date | pv -qL 10
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>>61065695
cmatrix
>>61065747
bash, huge community => many tuts => easy to learn.
>>61065533
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Simple_sandbox
as far as i know if you run graphical app as another user (sudo|su) sandboxed app still can make screenshot and keylog.
>>61065592
wrong, it depends on umask, most of distros allow *any* user to read your files.
to prevent this you have to add eg
$ umask 0007
to yo ~/.bashrc
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>>61065747
I use the GNOME shell.
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>>61062927
I do this with ed, I like to pretend to be a wizard some time
>>
Newb here. I've been using Xubuntu for the past weeks but I see Gentoo mentioned here a lot, any reason to switch distros?
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Repeating this question. It's already in the Thinkpads thread

So, for whatever reason, my Bluetooth on my T420 automatically turns on when booting. Running Linux Ubuntu MATE 16.04. However even though the LED status light on the Thinkpads shows Bluetooth is on, Linux shows it's off. I have to turn it "on", then turn it off again to actually have the OS turn it off.

Is this a problem with the laptop or the OS?
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>>61065973
no, if you don't why you would you switch to gentoo you shouldn't, yet.
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>>61065973
gentoo is a meme
updating your web browser can easily take hours
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>>61066050
>hours
I meant half an hour
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>>61065973
using /g/entoo you can customize installed programs ( https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Working/USE ) .
Additional every program is compiled on your system, if u have CPY that have many additional features installed prgram will use them.

PS. if you are serious newfag lurc moar before installation, gentoo *doeas not* have installer so installation is much harder.

>>61066050
wrooooong.
you can use binary package.
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>>61066050
>gentoo is a meme
sure, if all you know about linux is based on /g/
>>
https://sourceforge.net/projects/retroshare/
decentralized social network and moar.
Why not /g/?
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>>61066170
you missed the retro share threads i take it
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>>61065695
Handy color picker:
python2 -c 'import gtk; gtk.ColorSelectionDialog("Python").run()'
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>>61066312
thanks, this is actually really useful.
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>>61066312
Also:
python2 -c 'import gtk; gtk.FontSelectionDialog("Python").run()'
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>>61062629
Friends, I am on Arch Linux, ThinkPad T450.

How can I set up the hotkeys to control the screen brightness?

The Arch wiki has so many different cases for this i'm not sure which applies to my hardware.
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>>61066356
>Friends, I am on Arch Linux
Thanks for posting.
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>>61066356
Just use xbacklight.
Just works, doesn't require root and fades smoothly.
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>>61066356
type xbacklight -dec 10
or, xbacklight -inc 10
if it works, pretty much anything will work.
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I want to use guixsd, but I can't use the linux-libre kernel, because my wireless adapter uses the ralink driver. can I just download the vanilla/debian kernel and compile it on guixsd?

I'm not all that familiar with guix.
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I'm on ubuntu gnome on my laptop, put in in sleep mode and forgot about it for a few weeks as it ran out of power. I've plugged it back in and got it some charge but now I'm stuck in a login loop. I've tried deleting/renaming iceauthority and xauthority(I didn't even have xauthority) and whatever else the first page of googling suggested. what should I do
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>>61066441
Wat is login loop?
>>
>>61066490
I can't get out of the login screen. every time I try to log in, the screen goes black briefly, then off for a second before coming back on to the login screen.
>>
>>61066517
Did you tried to login as another user?
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>>61066517
that's weird; it's fixed now. I don't really know what I did to fix it.
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>>61066378
worked like a charm. Thanks
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>>61063670
If you have a keyboard without @ on it (what layout?) You should look into the x compose key. Also it is probably somewhere on the second level shift.
>>
What books do you recommend for learning GNU/Linux administration?

I heard good things about Red Team / Blue Team field manuals
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>>61066825
Archwiki is all you need.
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>>61062669
More like kill kikes t b h
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anybody know how to enable tear free option for intel on archlinux? I followed the wiki but I'm still getting lots of screen tearing. It works on lubuntu.
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>>61066997
use compton
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>>61063403
>He was popular in the 80's for making gnu and emacs.He has NOTHING ELSE TO HIS FUCKING NAME since the 80's
Bullshit. Look at the large majority of shit that uses the fucking GPL. Stallman has had a huge impact, so much in fact that we should really be calling 'Linux' the GNU system. It's more appropriate. After all, GNU was and always will be the principal contribution.
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>>61067018
if I use that it fixes the tearing but introduces stuttering in video players like mpv
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>>61063454
It should really be "GNU (with Linux added)"
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>>61067040
It should really be "Linux (with GNU userspace)"
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>>61067059
>not calling it legs
>>
what is the best PS1?
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>>61067195
PS1='$ '
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>>61067195
$

- I know who I am
- I know my machine
- I know what time it is
- I know which directory I just cd'd into
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>>61062805
While this is true, it also means that it is wrong to call Linux a Unix-like system.
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>>61067195
PS1='C:$(pwd | sed "s:/:\\\\\\\:g")> '
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How do i increase the gui text of applications?
In both gtk and qt.
Currently the font is like 10 and i cant see shit.
I dont use a de so im not sure what program would be standalone that would change these settings
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>>61067349
Install a real DE and stop using a shitty meme WM.
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>>61067349
edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
or just use lxappearance.
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>>61067364
and another useless post wasted
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>>61067379
>but.. muh lightweight WM
Nice meme faggot
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>>61067398
and another wasted post
>>
Is there any tangible benefit in recompiling your own kernel instead of using the distro provided linux image?
>>
>>61067408
Let me guess, you use Arch?
>>
>>61067364
>>61067398
>>61067421
Stop being a faggot, faggot. This is a friendly thread.
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>>61067427
>friendly
>faggot
k tard
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>>61067421
Not him, but I use Arch
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>>61067349
Welcome to /g/.
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>>61067420
if you have to ask, no.
if you compile your own kernel you can do stuff like tune for size (which is totally irrelevant on a pc) or tune for performance at the cost of power usage, but there arent options like make tune-size, it's more like a million options that you change.

most people that compile their own kernel the only thing that they gain is that the kernel will not had any unnecessary drivers.
>>
>>61067500
>implying ED isn't just a troll wiki
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>>61067553
>implying implications
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>>61067221
The point is that when you have many terminals open and half of them are sshed into different hosts you can tell at a glance. I have my prompts color coded between hosts too. Production server is RED.
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>>61067600
but you get your ps1 from the server you're connecting to?
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>>61063782
>Systemd people are not trying to make a init. the are making an OS
Partially correct. Systemd is a suite of tools. It was NEVER intended to be only an init system. In fact the whole of systemd is 69 INDIVIDUAL BINARIES (you can actually get away with only 42 if you wish, making it semi modular). These binaries all serve different tasks, and are neatly separated. Many of these binaries are separated out so nicely, that they are very useful outside of systemd. A package involving 69 individual binaries can hardly be called monolithic. So consider this. Systemd is a suite of integrated tools that each have their individual purposes but when used together are more than just the sum of the parts. That's pretty much at the core of UNIX philosophy. And systemd is probably the opposite of bloat. Since systemd components share a common code base, they tend to share much more code or common code paths. Here's an example: in a traditional Linux setup, sysvinit, start-stop-daemon, inetd, cron, dbus, all implemented its own scheme to execute processes with various configuration options. With systemd the code paths for all of this, for the configuration parsing, as well as the actual execution, is shared. This means less code, less place for mistakes, less memory and less cache pressure.

Some people hear it's bad and so they propagate the idea, and blow it out of proportion without much research, consideration or thought.
When systemd first appeared, it was quickly adopted because not many people had qualms about it.
Those who did (and those were few) had their own reasons and thoughts (they didn't get meme'd into hating it) and moved onto other init systems.
Most of them were reasonable enough not to start a fucking civil war because of them, because even they knew that systemd is a natural step forward in general.

If systemd was as hated as it is now, it would never have been so widely adopted. Systemd is the most advanced init and service manager in existence.
>>
>>61063841
>systemd Logs are binary
This is fucking myth. Fuck off.
>>
>>61067699
>muh 69 binaries
That are all dependant on each other, making it monolithic.
>>
>>61067711
Go to your /var/log/journal.
Use nano/vi/vim/emacs on one of the logs.
Notice it is not plain text
>>
>>61067652
That's right. And those prompts come from bashrc on those servers.
>>
>>61067378
What would be the equivalent of lxapperance for qt?
>>
>>61065987
Os, I had a similar issue on my xps 13 running ubuntu also, had to make a systemd script to disable it at boot. Look archwiki.
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>>61067699
>If systemd was as hated as it is now, it would never have been so widely adopted.
What makes you think that systemd is accepted? Distros jumping on the bandwagon doesn't mean that the community likes it. Debian had a voting and it was near 50% vs 50%.

imho, red hat products go through more easy because everyone relies on red hat sheckles
>>
>>61068053
>everyone relies on red hat sheckles
Who? Please specify/elaborate on "everyone".
>>
If Arch is meant to be simple, why doesn't it have a simple installer?
>>
>>61068211
It does,its called your fucking hands on the keyboard

Its like 8 steps,which are documented heavily on the wiki
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>>61068211
Arch is for edgy teens who want to "feel themselves".
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>>61068211
to keep the noobs out
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>>61068211
it had one a few years ago.
>>
>>61068392
A decade ago it did
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>>61068211
lol ive installed arch at least 10 times this week
>>
>>61068853
typical arch user.
>>
>>61068211
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot#Archboot_ISO_Releases
>>
can we stop with the distro bickering? when it comes down to it, we're all mostly the same. what you can do with one, you can do with the other
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>>61069057
There not all the same though. Every distro is different, from different packages, different package manager, l different installer, or even being source-based instead of binary-based. People argue for a distro because that's what they think is better, and that's not going away any time soon.

Now fuck off and quit expecting people to stop arguing about which distro is the best.
>>
any ideas why changing the config hasn't changed the fetch output?x
>>
Fuck linux
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>>61069354
Triggered
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>>61069420
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>>61069483
Triggered lincuck, enjoy no games.
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>>61069493
>muh gaymes
>>>/v/
>>
>>61069493
anon, linux users don't need to play games because they have work to do
>>
>>61069505
>>61069510
Ricing your desktop with cartoon girls isn't work and nobody in a real job uses linux.
>>
>>61069532
Dumb shill, successful corporations use Linux for work.
>>
>>61069548
No they don't you triggered lincuck.
>>
>>61069586
>what is Google
>>
>>61069599
>Implying they use linux for anything important.
>>
>>61069607
They use it for development (Mac otherwise), and all of their servers, retard.

Just give up, shill.
>>
Best tool to create bootable USB on linux with gpt support? Trying to put windows on family members computer
>>
>>61069694
>Trying to put windows on family members computer
why would you do that to them
>>
>>61069730
I don't want to be designated tech support when they can't figure out how to do something on Gentoo.
>>
>>61069752
Just tell them that if they can't figure out gentoo they should an hero.
>>
Just finished installing Ubuntu on a new machine. What are the best packages to install? im currently installing Git, Utils, and Docker (for mounting an server for a mini autonomous vehicle). What are other "essentials"????
>>
>>61070207
sl, cowsay, guile, ed, mtpaint.
>>
Just finished installing Ubuntu on a new machine. What are the best packages to install? im currently installing Git, Utils, and Docker (for mounting an server for a mini autonomous vehicle). What are other "essentials"?
>>
>>61067746

You can use another logger.
>use a text editor
No one would use a text editor on logs, idiot. Also do you think only text editors can read your "plain text" data?
Idiot.
>>
>>61069401

You seem to be editing a file in /etc. I don't know much about neofetch, but try moving it into your home directory in the config/neofetch directory as mentioned on its website. Maybe it's disregarding the file in /etc
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When did /fglt/ become so shit?
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>>61070613
Systemd is a major component on most linux based systems these days. It would be a little weird for a linux thread not to mention it.

As an aside, I for one am glad that sysd is written in C instead of C++ or some shit. On the other hand does this file (just as a random example) need to be 2000 lines? https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/tmpfiles/tmpfiles.c

And all those imports! Such a barrier to entry and all the special casing throughout the whole thing (even for btrfs). The maintainers are really going to become a bottleneck to changes to linux distros. It is weird that they present this as the way forward from a system rooted in the ancient past but this is a very conservative approach that I wouldn't be at all surprised to see resulting in some kind of stagnancy in the future.
>>
How to force mpd to just output audio in two specific sampling rates only, e.g. 176.4kHz and 192kHz?
>>
>>61070703

> On the other hand does this file (just as a random example) need to be 2000 lines?
Does it? Do you know what it does? Do you know how to make it better? Why don't you submit a patch if you know so much about it and why it being 2000 lines is bad?
>>
>>61070941

1. what do you gain by resampling your existing audio? Do you think it improves in quality?
2. hahaha 192kHz hahagahghaghah ahgh aghahgahghaghaghaghahgahgahgh
>>
whats the best virtual box setup i can do on windows? by best i mean smallest and fastest for doing one thing: mounting an encrypted ext4 disk and sharing it with the host.
>>
>>61070941
Output in what format, http? Without knowing I'll say do the obvious and make two audio_output blocks with different format options.
>>
>>61070947
Way to ignore the spirit of a post and the whole last paragraph you passive aggressive pedant. Well, I will humour you anyway because maybe it will make you think twice about projecting your ignorance on other posters next time.

>Does it?
It was a rhetorical question. Using modern compilers you can easily split files into smaller ones.

>Do you know what it does?
There is a comment near the top of the file that explains it rather simply. The complexity is clearly due to all the special casing that they are hardcoding in the file which you would have seen if you had as much as skimmed over it.

>Do you know how to make it better? Why don't you submit a patch if you know so much about it and why it being 2000 lines is bad?
If you had read my post with your critical thinking cap on you could easily have inferred that I think it would be better if it were less tightly coupled to a whatever transitory "best practice" system the developers use these days and that it were structured in a why as to make things easier for new contributors to contribute. If you knew anything about the development of systemd you would know that those things are ideas that the devs see as far less important than pushing something into production that works for them today. Any patch submitted to do those things would be dismissed, with hopefully an optimistic message of encouragement nevertheless.
>>
I am confused. I want to use windows remote desktop with ubuntu, so i installed xrdp but it doesn't work with unity, why? it shouldn't matter which gui do i use does it? which one should i install then?
>>
Is it normal to have both ALSA and PulseAudio installed?
>>
>>61071200
VNC > RDP
Get a VNC server for Windows, and use Vinagre as a client in Ubuntu (it comes with GNOME, on which Unity is based, so it should already be installed).
>>
>>61071204
No. Replace ALSA with OSS4.
>>
>>61071215
I need it the other way around, remote from windows into ubuntu. Also i used vnc 5 years ago and it was laggy as fuck then i switched to remote desktop inbuilt in windows and it was soooo good, so i would like to keep it even now when i switched my server to gnu/linux
>>
>>61071230
>Also i used vnc 5 years ago and it was laggy as fuck
Are the two computers in the same LAN? If so, it shouldn't be. I use it all the time to control my Laptop remotely, and it works well.
>>
>>61071104

> Using modern compilers you can easily split files into smaller ones.
What's the point of splitting that file into multiple files?

>The complexity is clearly due to all the special casing that they are hardcoding in the file which you would have seen if you had as much as skimmed over it.
I did. Please explain to me how you would solve that "problem" and how it is a "problem" specifically.

>If you had read ... encouragement nevertheless.
Again, there is nothing substantial or concrete about your claims. It's just some vague subjective opinions about something you most likely have no knowledge of. Because if you had, you'd bring it up. Not here, but on the bug tracker or mailing lists.
>>
>>61071230
Try this https://www.nomachine.com/
>>
>>61071230
Even M$ themselves recommend xrdp for what you want to do though.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/linux/classic/remote-desktop
>>
>>61071230
I dunno about xrdp but I have used xpra to get remote X windows on a windows PC before. If you don't launch the X programs over the xpra connection (so forwarding already running apps) it is lower performance though.

>>61071215
VNC is not better than RDP.

>>61071204
Yes, Pulse its on top of alsa and does fancy stuff.
>>
>>61070281
steam
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>>61071266
>Free software is not better than proprietary software.
>>
>>61070281
# apt-get install build-essential
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>>61071293
Most of the time it's inferior. There are some exceptions, but few.
>>
>>61071252
>Again, there is nothing substantial or concrete about your claims. It's just some vague subjective opinions
What, did you think I was making a technical critisism? You really have got your blinkers on tight haven't you. Is it because I linked to a C file?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_Comprehension
>>
>>61071304
Nonesense!

Give me one example of a compiler better than GCC, or typesetting softare better than TeX (which is really old, but is still the best), or a better kernel than Linux, or better simple tools than GNU coreutils.
Protip: you can't.

Shit, you can't even calculate the checksum of a file on Windows without searching the web for third party software.
>>
So when generating ssh key, why shouldn't i put something insane like 500000 into the number of bits?
>>
>>61070613
Why do people here hate it so much? I've been using it since I switched to GNU/Linux, in many distros, and it never gave me reason to despise it desu.
>>
>>61071320
>some exceptions
That's pretty much it though. For every single other major application, any user will prefer proprietary software most of the time.

>calculating checksums
Now you're grasping at straws, almost nobody needs to do that.
>>
>>61071313

>why is this file so big
>why is this thing in this file
>why is it coupled to this

Those are all technical criticisms. If you fail to realize that then you're an idiot.
>>
>>61071335
>That's pretty much it though. For every single other major application, any user will prefer proprietary software most of the time.
If 2 programs are able to do the same task, but one of them is free software, and the other is not, there's no way I'm gonna use the latter.

>>61071335
>Now you're grasping at straws, almost nobody needs to do that.
How else are you going to check if some file you downloaded or copied or something is the same as the original?
>>
>>61071320
>compiler
Intel compiler.

>typesetting
Microsoft Word.
>>
>>61071349
>why is this file so big
That's what she said
>>
New thread:
>>61071370
>>61071370
>>61071370
>>
>>61071349
In this case they are side effects of social and organizational problems. Context is important.
>>
>>61071364
>Intel compiler.
Try to compile anything useful with this non-free shit. And enjoy Intlel spying on you through backdoors they put in your program.

>Microsoft Word.
kek, I'd sooner use Wordpad.
>>
>>61071373

>In this case they are side effects of social and organizational problems.
No, they are not. Not until you prove how they are by proving the lack of their technical merit. You obviously can't do that, as already mentioned.
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I am having black screen issues installing linux. i have tried both ubuntu and elementary os on my pc with a usb and both give a black screen when trying to boot into 'try without installing'. 'nomodeset' worked for ubuntu however i was not able to run at 1080p which made me reluctant to install. does anyone of some insight into this issue? will installing either and not running in the try mode fix it? im using a gtx 970.
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