This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.
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>>60976803
Question why people just post seiko,rolex, and like omegas on here.How come i dont see any skeleton watchs or any tourbillions or anything that looks cool. The most i have seen are some chronos, nothing bad about chrono but this reminds me of normies.
>>61003791
Skeleton watches are 99% some chinkshit pleb-bait dogshit.
>>61003814
>99% of the time*
>>61003814
that alittle racist
>>61003835
Where do you think you are nigga?
just get a vosktov lol
>>61003791
>skeleton watchs or any tourbillions or anything that looks cool
you must be a fucking tool.
>>61003791
You will get sick of skeleton watches soon and prefer a nice dial, trust me
>>61003835
Get the fuck out.
OK guys I have been getting some good fuccboi suggestions
are smart watches good for getting your anus filled with nigger cum?
i love nigger cum inside me because they have the biggest hard cocks
>>61003791
>tourbillions
because people here don't have $75,000 watches dummy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnY-yBaWjE
>>61004789
What the fuck.
>>61003835
Can anyone give their honest opinion on the Truwood watches?
I think pic related is beautiful, but the watch does cost only 100 bucks, so I'm not sure if I should dish that amount out for it.
>>61005084
>>61005084
>>61005084
>wood watches
way to waste trees even more
>>61005097
>>61005119
>>61005127
So I guess I'll just get it, fuck it. Thanks.
>>61005157
Don't say we didn't warn you when the buyer's remorse hits.
>>61005176
isn't everything just chinkshit anyway?
>>61005184
No, asshole.
>>61005194
hey, cool your pistons baby, I'm just trying to figure things out. What's this about then?
>>61005097
>>61005203
It's pretty self explanatory. See also
http://imgur.com/a/6CNO8
>>61005157
Don't be a retard, if you're on that sort of a budget go for Seiko 5, Casio, Citizen Orient, maybe Bulova or Tissot or even Swatch. Buy something from a proper watchmaker and not a shitty fashion retailer selling rebranded generic Chinese nonsense.
>>61005274
Not usually one to ask for spoonfeeding, but do any of those brands offer minimalist watches? I hate the bulky, overly complex watches that are usually recommended.
>>61005274
All of which you stated are rebranded generic Chinese nonsense.
I guess comprehension isn't your strong suit.
Thoughts on the Certina? Just found out about the brand and I'm glad I did.
Also, would a SARB033 fit well if I currently wear a SNK809 and it fits just about right on my small wrists? Or are there any other dress watches I should look into with a similar size to the SNK809?
>>61005310
here's your (you)
>>61005311
Some vintage pieces are neat. Nowadays it just seems like another forgettable swatch owned company.
>>61004789
>this watch is so expensive it costs more than a Ferrari!!
>and this one is even more expensive, it costs almost as much as a BUGATTI!!!
>>61005311
the sarb is really nice but it wears pretty big.
>>61004789
FAKE AND GAY
>>61004395
I am African American and I would cum inside you please post email
>>61005887
It's not very big at all. Maybe a little big for a dress watch, but it's not a dress watch.
>>61003791
because watch owners, among many other enthusiasts are literally autistic and refuse to accept much else (though many times it is justified) and so you get the same generic Vostok, Casio Terrorist, Rolex, Seiko, etc.
Skeleton watches look like shit on 99.99..% of watches ever made.
Also, tourbillons tend to be really expensive.
>>61006714
no its not big its 38mm but it wears larger than the 38mm would suggest. If you have a small wrist it may be a problem. I personally have no problem wearing it.
>>61003583
anybody have destroyed watches/watch gore?
I used to have a collection on images of ruined watches but lost it when my old laptop's hard rive got smashed
>>61003835
This is 4chan, offending each other is part of the culture, therefore we appropriate all sorts of offensive things and toss them around casually.
Also we get people who honestly belive some of the things most of us say mostly to be ironic or get a reaction out of people.
If you can't handle that then you I suggest leaving as other parts of the internet won't offend you as much, possibly.
>>61007762
>>61003791
because I don't feel like taking and sharing photos of my watches.
>>61005084
like 15 bucks on ali lmao
>>61007762
Another.
>>61003583
how do I equip my watch with a heinously loud siren or alarm?
I want to use it to annoy people
>>61007801
Meh it's fine, just replace the glass.
>>61007801
>>61007817
Sweet. Thanks.
Was the second one a victim of heat from a fire?
>>61007817
What the fuck happened to the dial, did the owner meet a alien and got lasered or something.
The dealer can't ship the omega to me today because he's busy, i hate this feelinggggg.
>>61007858
the plastic got hot enough that it got soft enough to contract and relive the tension it had been under since it became frozen solid and then kept frozen by existing at temperatures around the range that humans live.
>>61007801
>>61007817
Hell yeah, FUCK crystals!
>>61007831
Add a cap to the speaker circuit in a Casio.
>>61007845
I can't remember exactly what situation caused that.
When I get home, I think have a picture of a speedster that the chrono seconds hand fell off of if you are interested.
>>61003583
>that bottom lume dot
MY AUTISM
>>61005084
TRUUUUUu
Which do you choose? and inbefore neither go fuck yourself. I am just referring to the lume colors.
>>61008584
Blue.
>>61008584
blue will be less bright IRL and not last as long after turning out the lights
looks better though
>>61008584
Blue. Also if you're getting a Rolex don't get a maxi-case monstrosity.
>>61008965
Honestly, I think that should depend on the size of their arms.
>>61008965
No i am just attempting to select a lume color for a relume job. I would never buy that hunk of shit
>>61008584
>lume colors
I would want a deep red face with amber hour markers and yellow hands. That is much easier on the eyes.
For diving blue green is better since it is less absorbed by sea water. However since the far majority here only do showers this is not much of an issue.
>>61009128
The blue looks much better but the green is way brighter 36k mcd vs 10k mcd... I need the lume because i go camping a lot and use the watch at night.
Who /Steinhart/ here
>>61009151
Blue light is said to upset the day/night rhythm so red - yellow would be preferable.
Also when you get older accumulation of proteins in the eyes, especially the lens, cause blue light to scatter far more than red, another reason to avoid the blue end of the spectrum.
Some humans can see a little bit into the infrared. If you are a member of this elite you can use lume or tritium sources in infrared that only you can read.
Would you?
>>61003856
Sorry I'm not an antifa faggot
>>61009623
this board hates steinhart for some reason
>>61010161
>you can use lume or tritium sources in infrared that only you can read.
wat
Anyone here used pic related? 2nd gen.
>>61010294
not all of us anon
>>61010202
how much is it
the answer is no not really, my seikos are accurate enough that they only need to be set for time when have to do it anyway for daylight savings 2x per year
so why bother
>>61010331
enough people do that you can't even talk about them without catching never ending shit on here
>>61010315
what brand/model is that?
>>61010314
Yes. WWI fighter aces were known to have this ability. The ability to see in near infrared allowed them to see the enemy before the enemy saw them and this gave them a Darwinian grade survival advantage.
Later fighter pilots were given a special diet with a modified vitamin to extend normal vision into near infrared. There is a bit about this on the net, a bit obscure but otherwise well known. I learned about this in University.
Anyway, pic related is a lume I would see.
>>61010371
thats just the people that are so delusional about their love for seiko that they can't admit any other watch is ever ok to buy.
>>61010381
It's a Moto 360 2nd gen
>>61010382
>posts bright ass lume
well i would see that too anon
how can you tune tritium to be just infrared enough for you to see but not someone else?
>>61010315
>using a black face to try to hide the flat tire
ohoho almost got me
>>61010432
Better than something like this
>>61010407
>posts bright ass lume
Yahhh, I had only the Win10 Paint program handy. A complete multimedia experience would take me more than the 2 minutes I spent. Just imagine the red a bit subdued, possibly hatched to reduce the intensity. In fact you could probably make nice patterns that would emerge at night to complement the daylight visible pattern, pic. related as an example of due view images.
>how can you tune tritium to be just infrared enough for you to see but not someone else?
That is determined by the fluorescent coating of the tritium tube. I know there are IR tubes but I am not sure about the wavelength.
Most people can see 400 - 700 nm and some can extend that to close to 800 nm. So you would want a 750 nm source.
Do you know you really can see IR? The fraction of the population who can is very small.
>>61010294
My only issues with the company are that their non-homage watches are almost all ugly and too big, and that most of their models are also significantly overpriced.
But hey man, it's your money, spend it how you want. Post a nice wrist shot showing it off why don't you, I'd love to see one.
>>61010571
>Most people can see 400 - 700 nm and some can extend that to close to 800 nm. So you would want a 750 nm source.
>Do you know you really can see IR?
where would you buy such tubes, you would have to mount them in the watch yourself, no watch maker would make something with hardly any market
no i doubt I can see IR as I have never noticed it and am a bit skeptical of your claims in general
IR is literally heat and tritium puts out almost no heat, I don't think you would be able to see it in any kind of tube that would fit on a watch hand
>>61005084
>paying $100 for a rebranded bobobird
>>61010678
>IR is literally heat and tritium puts out almost no heat
>>61010720
>>IR is literally heat and tritium puts out almost no heat
but that's right
Like my new seiko? I'm not sure about this strap so gonna get a black leather one.
>>61010783
hows the lume and chapter ring alignment close up?
>>61010460
Holy shit...if not for the black at the bottom that might actually look OK...
>>61010811
Lume is great. Chapter ring is ever so slightly clockwise. All in all would recommend if you can get for £130 or lower.
>>61010883
You know i bought a few cheap divers to compare them all and returned the ones that didn't make the cut. I know it gets a ton of shit on this board but honestly the Invicta pro diver i got had the best finish and kept the best time. The branding on it was too much however.
>>61010882
Love those. Bonafide classic.
>>61010779
Material properties and EM radiation are not the same, stop going to /sci/.
>>61011058
>Material properties and EM radiation are not the same, stop going to /sci/.
explain to me how to emit sufficient IR to see but not have the object be very warm/hot
>>61010911
Did you try a Christopher Ward?
>>61011128
Not them, but IR LEDs.
>>61010678
>where would you buy such tubes,
You know, this is why we have Google.
http://www.betalight.nl/en/light-source/ir-betalight.html
>you would have to mount them in the watch yourself, no watch maker would make something with hardly any market
Probably yes.
>no i doubt I can see IR as I have never noticed it
What?
>and am a bit skeptical of your claims in general
Feel free but then again all I have written can be backed up with some searches.
>IR is literally heat and tritium puts out almost no heat,
IR comes in many bands like light comes in many colours. 800 nm is not hot. Just try a remote control for a TV, many use a IR diode that you can see as blue light with an old mobile phone camera. Note: old. Peak heat emission for sunlight is about 1000 nm or 1 um. Heat emission from room temperature black body radiation is about 10 um.
Tritium tubes work by fluorescence, like old fluorescent lighting. The beta emissions stimulate photon emissions in a band equal or lower than the energy of the beta particle. With a low enough emission you get into IR region.
>I don't think you would be able to see it in any kind of tube that would fit on a watch hand
I am not sure. I do have the ability to see IR sources, it lets me see IR illumination used by security systems that monitor people at night. Most people see just darkness, the camera sees all as if in monochrome floodlight. And I can see the light too.
>>61011204
>Just try a remote control for a TV, many use a IR diode that you can see as blue light with an old mobile phone camera.
are you telling me you personally can see the light from a TV remote?
>>61011204
>>I don't think you would be able to see it in any kind of tube that would fit on a watch hand
>I am not sure. I do have the ability to see IR sources, it lets me see IR illumination used by security systems that monitor people at night. Most people see just darkness, the camera sees all as if in monochrome floodlight. And I can see the light too.
I can see the lights for night vision security cameras, the ring of LEDs you see around most of them at night
does that mean i have this ability?
>>61009623
I have one and I happen to be wearing it today. Not a huge fan to be honest, but it's a nice watch I guess. Too big and bulky and I shouldn't have paid so much for such a blatant rip-off. It's nice and solid feeling and holds up well, it would probably be my everyday beater if I didn't prefer my SKX007.
I don't understand why they couldn't just leave the proportions of the pre-maxi Sub alone considering it's identical looking anyway. It's a big fat watch with long flat lugs and a big fat bracelet that doesn't taper at all.
>>61011369
do they not make a smaller version?
how is the lume
>>61011404
Not really last I checked, all of their watches tend to be huge. I think they reuse the same case a lot. The lume is bright enough to do the job, it's visible for a pretty long time too. The SKX lume shits all over it, but then Seiko diver lume tends to outshine pretty much everything else too.
>>61011137
No only up to like 250 usd and all auto
>>61011404
only the marine 38
thoughts on Fossil Chronograph »MACHINE, FS4656
?
>>61011486
why would you buy a 150 dollar quartz chrono from fossil?
>>61010783
>leather on a diver
>>61011498
It looks good. I dont know much about watches, so is it a good choice?
>>61011265
>are you telling me you personally can see the light from a TV remote?
No, those are too far out for me, typically 910 nm. You can however see these with old mobile phone cameras.
>>61011287
>I can see the lights for night vision security cameras, the ring of LEDs you see around most of them at night
Yes, that I can. To me it looks like a very deep red colour.
>does that mean i have this ability?
Yes, to some extent. It is hard to tell how deep into IR you can see.
>>61011539
cheapest chrono you are getting into besides the seiko quartz ones should probably be a seagul
>>61011519
I don't dive...
DO people actually think that NATO Straps look good? They look so tacky, shit and cheap.
>>61011727
Personally, I only use them on my beater watches, so they don't fall off when I'm, you know, beating on them.
>>61011727
Good with casual wear, abhorrent with anything else. Context kiddo.
>>61011727
>DO people actually think that NATO Straps look good? They look so tacky, shit and cheap.
>>61011757
I can't stand the look in any context. What triggers me most is the red, white and blue ones on a gold Daniel Wellington.
>>61003583
>$14,000 for a mis-aligned circle at 6 o' clock
>>61011792
On a watch that old the dial has probably been repainted at least once.
What're some really nice time only watches?
>>61011776
That's not a NATO strap though
>>61011777
Denzel Washingtons are horrible anon, but you still have autism.
>>61011983
it's the same thing for all intents and purposes
>>61010357
>How much is it
Oh boy
>>61011727
I love zulu straps.. think they are fantastic. Eulits specifically are very aesthetic.
>>61010357
I can't tell if this is a delusional seiko poster or a run of the mill shitposter
>>61011857
Philippe Dufour
Holy shit it's $90,000
that's retarded
>>61012086
>I can't tell if this is a delusional seiko poster or a run of the mill shitposter
how often do you have to set your mechanical daily wear watch for being out of time anon?
>>61005084
It's an overpriced re-brand of a Chinese watch. Just buy directly from the source and pay only a fifth of the price .
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Bobobird-Bamboo-Wooden-Watch/735812_32433258087.html
Boi
Any good skeleton watches from east europe?
whats the cheapest tourbillon you guys found and would you buy it if you had the money?
>>61013409
The Chinese make them for under 400 usd and no
I can't believe no one has converted one of these to a watch yet. Was there a left handed model?
>>61013409
Tourbillon watches aren't worth it at any price point. Clicks on the other had have a much more compelling case.
>>61013574
Fuck me I'm a retarded phone poster. *Clocks*
>>61013574
why arent they?
>>61013369
No to either one of those qualifiers
Are there any retro watches from vostok?
>>61013818
Vostoks are not fucking Omegas my man they were meant to "work" for 5 years.
>>61013818
Why? Are you an antifa hipster?
Found this in a Thrift shop
Anything special about it?
It only ticks for a few second after shaking.
>>61013762
Very fragile - some say that even applauding will take you to the repair shop
And speaking or repairs, this is expensive: if you could afford the watch you can afford extra moohlas for repair.
>>61013762
Tourbillons mitigate the effects of gravity on the timepiece. Watches are generally moving around in all sorts of positions, whereas clocks are generally stagnant. The benefits in terms of timekeeping and mechanical wear are far less significant in watches. Additionally, the mechanism must be made very small to fit in a watch, especially double-axis tourbillons. This makes them extremely difficult to make and to repair.
>>61013818
They're all fucking retro
>>61013889
Dial looks like it's a railroad watch which makes it super accurate. Also is that a fucking helical hairspring? If so then it's accurate as fuck, and was expensive as shit.
Get it serviced.
>>61012064
Neither of those are nato straps.
>>61003835
You have to go back
>using a dumbwatch
I bet you guys smoke out of pipes and have rolodexes
Why did Ontario seiko man stop posting about his all steel digital radio watch, what was the deal with that?
Also check pic related
>>61014866
Nice 5740 m8.
>>61014866
is that a seiko lord marvel
>>61014887
I've been wanting a hi-beat hand wind for quite a while and this fit the bill. I love the arabic numerals on yours.
>>61014905
Ye
>>61014887
is that a seiko lord marvel
>>61014916
>Ye
damn im good
What are some decently good Luftwaffe/pilot-style watches?
I'm fairly new to this thing and I appreciate the input.
>>61014941
damn im good
>>61014956
At the cheap end you have Tissel and Parnis. The latter is cheaper but might have no QC, and isn't actually a brand.
Midrange, Stowa is probably your best bet. They still use too many chink parts for the price they are charging imo.
Higher end you have IWC mostly.
If you go vintage there are a bunch of other brands as well.
>>61003853
Hey that's my original copyrighted shitposting photo. Here's my other one.
>>61015034
Great, thanks so much.
How about vintage brands?
>>61015225
I don't know jack shit about the vintage market. At that point you get into watches actually made for the Luftwaffe.
A funny trend I noticed about Amazon descriptions of shitty watches is how they insist its normal for mechanical watches to have a gap of 45s per day
Any good pilot or military style watches by vostok or luch?
Is there any art work of watches having sex with each other?
>>61015857
>military style watches by vostok
They're all military styled nigga
>>61015882
Probably. One guy nutted on the inside of a watch right on the movement here once.
>>61011727
*blocks your path*
>>61015972
Thats not nice!
>>61015882
Is this close enough? The guy counts out the current time with thrusts.
>>61015972
How does that even happen?
>>61015972
FLIGHT QUALIFIED BY NASA FOR MANNED SPACE MISSIONS THE ONLY WATCH WORN ON THE MOON
>>61014956
Archimede
Well the unexpected happened. So as it it 100f the oil just started oozing out. You were right /wt/
>>61016189
Expected not unexpected
>>61016189
What did you do?
>>61016189
>guy telling me his F-91W wasn't leaking oil like mine did
Still don't relieve it.
King and Queen
Why do you guys hate smartwatches so much.
My smart watch lets me preview texts at a glance so I don't have to pull out my phone. It tracks my heart rate, is fully visible in the dark. Can track my sleep habits and quality, counts the steps I take and calories I burn lets me preview calls to see if I want to take them without my phone etc...
I can even get the weather on it, it's always 100% accurate no need to be adjusted in any way and is water proof
why would you guys be against all that in a simple device on your wrist
>>61016801
Daily charging
Atrocious Designs (At least in the case of Crapple Watch)
No horological history
>>61016831
I have a samsung S3 and I only have to charge it every 3 days.
It actually looks ok, I don't like the way the apple watch looks either
it has the same history computers do, is this a luddite board or something?
but all the benefits are undeniable.
Chinks finally sent me the watch box for this one.
>>61016801
The battery life mostly. Most, but not all, also have pretty poor designs.
Fitness tracker things are generally well-executed though.
>>61016850
>No horological histroy
>Same history as computers
What the fuck is that comparison lmao
It's the same arguing quartz vs mechanical. 90% of the time no one really gives a shit and its top level trolling you're falling for, even if the trolling itself is poorly executed.
>>61016892
What is that
>>61016900
>It's the same arguing quartz vs mechanical. 90% of the time no one really gives a shit and its top level trolling you're falling for, even if the trolling itself is poorly executed.
point being nobody says "I don't want that new laptop because it does not have good enough ties to history"
essentially the only thing you are saying is "the smart watch is better but my shit is old and old is good"
>>61016892
>The battery life mostly. Most, but not all, also have pretty poor designs.
I have to put my S3 on the charger (wireless) twice a week while I sleep, it spends far less time on the charger than my cell phone
and people don't bitch about their cell phones charge
i don't normally wear a watch while asleep anyway unless I am trying to get data on my sleep
>>61016934
Again you're approaching it wrong. Smartwatches have functions that Mechanical or more traditional watches dont even attempt to achieve. Like the fucking weather. Thats like saying toyota and ferrari are both cars and the ferrari is better at going faster
well no shit.
>>61016956
>and people don't bitch about their cell phones charge
Point is its another device
>>61016984
more like comparing a 1948 car with no airbags that got shit mileage and only had 95 horsepower with a modern safer faster car with better mileage
>>61016919
It's a 维杰豪兹VHJ631220, a chink moonphase.
>>61017010
See now you're doing the trolling, completely ignoring what I said. Congratulations.
>>61016801
I ordered a 2nd gen moto 360 that should be here tomorrow. I'll give it a solid 2 weeks of use and see how it goes for possible long term use
>>61016562
The screws backed out from the heat, and I don't have a small enough screw driver put here to screw them back in.
>>61017228
did you drink the ooze for nutrients?
>>61017118
ah fuck off you have no argument and your only explanation of why a better piece of technology is reviled on a tech board vs a mechanical watch is "ur trolling" when presented with tech features and facts
strong logic
>>61014866
Nice Lord Marvel. I just haven't been wearing my Seiko Power Digital lately, but it's still the GOAT LCD quartz in my opinion.
>>61017228
What heat??
>>61017279
>>61016189
how do these things look better than a moto or samsung smart watch lol
>>61017295
I live in Saudi Arabia
>>61017279
Thanks I'll be taking it to Shane this weekend hopefully, ill give him a call since it came in today.
Does he do any restoration at all or just service? The case is sorta dirty and the crystal could use some work and im wondering if Archer is a better choice but $$$
>>61017300
>living someplace so hot it makes the screws back out on a gshock
no thank you that sucks
>>61017305
Please don't ruin that Lord Marvel by polishing the case. Just get some polywatch for the crystal (it's acrylic) and let Shane just do the movement.
Also Shane has probably done more 5740C's that Al Archer has by a large margin. Archer is known for his work on Omegas moreso.
>>61017279
where do you live where you can even wear fucking sweaters? I live in SAudi Arabia btw
>>61017356
not him but that's not a sweater it's a long sleeved flannel shirt
>>61017374
question doesnt change
>>61017398
>question doesnt change
not him but I personally live in Birmingham Alabama, a place considered to be hot in the USA and it was 74degrees Fahrenheit as a high today
I wore a long sleeved shirt to work today
>>61017415
Werido
>look up forecast for saudi arabia tomorrow
high is 115
fuck that!
>>61017431
why am i a weirdo, lots of people were wearing long sleeved shirts today
74f is not hot, it was cooler in the am and pm
>>61011776
They're comfy
>>61017356
The picture was taken in February, as the watch indicates.
>>61017473
oh you actually go to the trouble to setting the correct dates on your watches? haha
>>61017010
see? your shitty watch toy will break easily the mechanical one will last forever.
>>61017590
That's probably not true, the mechanical requires servicing or on a cheap one replacing the movement every 5 years
as long as the battery holds a charge a smart watch will probably go forever
>>61016892
Nice that looks way better than on the website. Baited into getting that one too now, I guess.
>>61017856
It looks better in person. I'm getting an actual camera before I even think about another watch. I'm really curious how the green/jade model looks irl. I wasn't confident based on the renders though. Already having the python strap also influenced me getting the white/blue one.
It seems a bit thick. It still fits under a cuff fine, but the crystal is domed, it's automatic, and has 4 central hands in addition to the moonphase, so it has some depth. The calligraphy on the dial is also extremely detailed.
>>61017980
Can you give me a height to the top of the crystal? I have the black 24 hour on the way now.
>>61018009
Somewhere between 12 and 13 mm.
>>61018154
Thanks
>>61017342
Tru
Any good vintage military or pilot watches? Does vostok have any good vintage?
>>61016892
Is the dial enamel?
Why does everyone war too big watches for their wrists?
>>61014866
>>61014887
These are the only seikos I actually have a strong desire to own.
>>61018904
I have no fucking idea. Half this board thiks 42-45mm watches are perfect?
>>61018952
Cringy as fuck, like a small kid using his dad's watch.
>>61018952
A number of people here think anything over 42mm is 2big.
>>61019087
only 42mm i would even wear is a speedmaster
>>61019114
t.wristlet
>>61018904
War is hell.
>>61018784
I don't think so. It definitely doesn't have the same texture as the Seiko Presage enamel dials I have seen at least.
>>61018952
Diameter doesn't mean shit. Lug-to-lug is what really makes or breaks a watch.
>>61019186
>Diameter doesn't mean shit. Lug-to-lug is what really makes or breaks a watch.
for manlets
>>61019134
no i just don't have bad taste you pleb
>>61019186
>Diameter doesn't mean shit
manlets, when will they ever learn?
http://documentarylovers.com/film/short-and-male/
>>61019265
>no I just have skinny girl wrists and am under 5'7
oh i see
>>61019293
>http://documentarylovers.com/film/short-and-male/
BRUTAL
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>>61019334
she's going to end her face by holding it like that
>>61019334
lol whatever you say bud. You can't accept the fact you have poor taste. Its ok we can't all look good.
>>61019385
>lol whatever you say bud. You can't accept the fact you have poor taste. Its ok we can't all look good.
so honestly how short are you
>>61019397
im like 2'11" but that's not important large watches are garish. Not liking large watches doesn't mean you are a limp wristed manlet. I have never seen a classy watch over 42mm...
btw
>>61018904
>>61019061
>>61019087
see the responses...
>>61019427
sorry manlet
enjoy ur 37mm watches
the kind big boys wear!
>>61019446
post a single 42+mm watch that looks good
>>61019427
*tips fedora
>>61004789
>Submariner
>200,000$
What
>>61019457
>post a single 42+mm watch that looks good
if I post one you will just say it looks bad lol
The SKX007 is 42mm
>OMG I DON LIKE THAT IT'S TOO BIG
yeah ok manlet
>>61019460
post a giant watch that looks good faggot... then post a giant watch on your wrist
>>61019475
42 +mm and the 007 is fucking hideous .. your idea of a nice watch is a 200 dollar seiko tool diver with a 20 dollar movement in it?
>>61011727
They really do feel good
>>61019457
>that looks good
Tell us what you think looks good anon, without saying anything about size.
The way you have framed this, is it totally subjective. Unless you define aesthetic qualities that you look for in a watch, you are free to just call anything ugly, since you have already made up your mind that watches larger than 42 mm diameter are bad. Also, don't bother choosing to define a good looking watch as 'classy,' that is just as vague, and gives you just as much wiggle room, without actually defining what you find appealing.
>>61019487
>42 +mm and the 007 is fucking hideous .
oh look you whined and bitched about the most popular entry level ISO diver on /wt/ just like i knew you would
manlets are so predictable
What are some vintage cold war era military or pilot watches you recommend? Would prefer if under 200
>>61019509
what he finds appealing are watches that do not look to big on his childlike manlet wrist, and that is denoted only by size
>>61019534
>What are some vintage cold war era military or pilot watches you recommend? Would prefer if under 200
Citizen Skyhawk blue angles version, pick up a nice used one, they were mainly worn by elite fighter pilots and well taken care of
>>61019553
That's just retarded and closed-minded.
>>61019509
>>61019527
>>61019553
not a manlet and wrist size is correlated with frame size. Smaller watches are more aesthetically pleasing. If you three are the .1 percent of the population with 8+ inch wrists then maybe a watch larger than 42mm would look good on you. If not then the proportions will be off and you all have poor taste. Its not your fault you were raised poorly.
>>61019476
Here is a "giant" watch on my wrist. 43 mm.
>>61019487
>42 +mm and the 007 is fucking hideous .. your idea of a nice watch is a 200 dollar seiko tool diver with a 20 dollar movement in it?
Why did you respond to him exactly the way he said you would?
>>61019631
THAT IS TOO BIG YOU WERE RAISED POORLY WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOCIETY , HIDEOUS
MANLETS FOREVER UNITE!!
>>61019634
why did he name an ugly watch just like i said he would? Shit ive owned a 007 but i didnt buy the fucking thing because i thought it looked nice.
>>61019631
your wrist looks like a flatworm
Should i get a zeppelin?
>>61019665
if only pretty and ugly were not subjective and you could not just call any watch ugly
there are plenty of popular 42mm+ watches for man sized grownups that look fine
I won't list them because you will just cry, i know it's not your fault, it's manlet defence mechanism at work
>>61019689
i mean if u cant afford vacheron constanin and really want one, sure
>>61019703
you caught me. Only ugly little manlets don't like over-sized watches that didn't exist from the inception of the wrist watch until a decade or two ago. You win.
>>61019713
were you referring to this one?
http://www.vacheron-constantin.com/en2/watches/traditionnelle.html
>>61019728
I didn't say you were ugly
I said you were short and can't wear the watches average sized men wear
Your face may be just fine little guy
>>61019675
My wrist is flat as fuck, and I also have a giant wrist bone(I think it is actually the joint of my Ulna, not a carpal bone, but whatever). Only 7.5 inches diameter though.
>>61019476
Pic related is a 45 mm watch for you.
>>61019652
>takes up around 2/3 of the wrist
>reeee tooo biig
Go cash in your good boy points.
Just bought this.
>>61019743
I am not a manlet and wrist size is correlated with frame size not height. There is a small positive correlation between frame size and height but it certianly doesn't mean all tall people have large wrists and all short people have small wrists. I am over 6 feet tall and my wrists are just over 7 inches whereas i have a friend who is a few inches shorter than me but has over 8 inch wrists. I can easily pull of a 42mm watch.. they just don't look as good. I honestly don't know what the fuck you people are wearing these things with. You may as well go buy fucking hublots like the niggers you are.
I cant find the old citizen skyhawk blue angels. Can someone possibly provide a link?
>>61019476
Here is another giant watch for you. Be careful not to be crushed by the visual impact.
>>61019799
>>61019782
You sure are defensive guy
maybe if you take some growth hormone you could have normal sized wrists when you are 18
>>61019811
>wristlet trying to wear a npn-miniature watch
wow, I wonder how that's gonna go.
I don't think you understand proof. Also, that has nothing to do with the watch.
Finally got my omega guys, the dealer is actually a pretty cool guy. Very happy with this watch, 370$ well spent
The dealer mentioned about a guy nearby that can "waterproof" the watch for me, what is that suppose to mean?
>>61019786
>I cant find the old citizen skyhawk blue angels. Can someone possibly provide a link?
I laboriously typed "skyhawk blue angels" into ebay for you , here is a result, please post again if you have more trouble
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CITIZEN-ECO-DRIVE-SKYHAWK-BLUE-ANGELS-S-S-FULLY-BOXED-VGC-/371978554432?hash=item569ba64c40:g:CT0AAOSw-89ZPSWA
>>61019811
>lugs hanging over wrist
wristlets will literally never learn
>>61019841
Beautiful watch. he probably means the person will replace the caseback gasket the crystal gasket and the crown gasket.
Thank you, i just wanted to find one that was legitimate.
>>61019821
I honestly don't know if you actually believe what you are saying or you are just shit posting. Was trying to inform you.
>>61019831
sure the watch looks nice but not at that size
>>61019892
Should i do it? i want to keep the condition of the watch as original as possible but as the same time i'm afraid someday water might get in.
I've got these three pocket watches and would like to open the middle Zenith watch. The one far right was dropped in a field by my great grandfather so I won't even bother opening and the left one is missing a hand but the middle one seems ok. How do I open the watch in the middle.
More pics to follow.
>>61019916
gaskets have to be replaced periodically it will not affect the originality of your watch. If the price is too high shop around. Also ask exactly what he is going to do.
>>61019893
>Thank you, i just wanted to find one that was legitimate.
don't buy that fucking skyhawk, he's trolling you
that is malldad pleb trash
>>61019905
>post a watch that looks good
>yeah it looks nice, but it's too big for me, so it doesn't count
Woah.
Well, have a nice night /wt/, I'll be curious to see if the shitposters have overrun everything by the morning.
>>61019608
>Citizen Skyhawk blue angles version, pick up a nice used one, they were mainly worn by elite fighter pilots and well taken care of
you ass
Then what would be some good vintage pilot watches? Preferably non metal. Thank you!
>>61019995
vintage but not metal
what do you want them to be made of? wood? do you know what vintage means?
It was in referance to the straps.
>>61019939
Here's the left watch. Seems to be a 'Ancre' watch. What would this particular one be worth?
>>61019986
shut the fuck up
>>61019841
look at this post
ok now imagine there were two seamasters but one was the size of the watch on the left ... which would look nicer? Its about proportion. You have no fucking taste.. that watch you linked before is a grand complication .. an engineering masterpiece.. the size doesn't matter because no one will ever fucking wear it.
Go learn a bit about art and what makes things visually appealing to most people.
>>61020034
Imagine you did not have the bony thin wrist of a 12 year old prepubescent girl with aids
>>61020050
imagine you didn't keep saying that and simultaneously call me the shitposter.
These things are way nicer in person than they look in pictures. The digits are really nice and Sharp and have an interesting depth to them. Definitely gonna get one sometime.
>>61020024
That springy thing does not look right. What is it?
>>61020070
>imagine you didn't keep saying that and simultaneously call me the shitposter.
imagine you stopped shitposting and could realize that the difference between 39mm and fucking 42mm is 3 fucking mm which is is less than a 10% variation and many guys can pull off a watch 10% bigger than those made 50 years ago because men are taller and larger framed today
3 fucking mm
>>61019689
Who the fuck wears a watch on the outside of their arm like that?
For what purpose?
>>61020110
>men are taller and larger framed today
[citation needed]
>>61020144
>>>61020110 (You)
>>men are taller and larger framed today
>[citation needed]
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150513-will-humans-keep-getting-taller
>>61020110
39 -> 42 represents an over 15% increase in area.
Also, 50 years ago 39mm would be a large watch, not a normal size. 36mm would be more typical.
>>61020086
Damn that spring look fuck up lol
>>61003791
Do you think a child of a King would be posting on 4chan? They'd be fucking pussies and sucking their Ministers' dicks at the same time in a strip club. With them being the strippers themselves.
Speaking of Kings, Kings have no relevance whatsoever anymore to this World. They get paid with our taxmoney and they're making banks with our money without giving anything back to us.
Now you see why these threads are filled with Seikos and mid-tier brands (Omega, Rolex, etc.).
>>61020197
>over 150 years
>huge watches only started gaining popularity max a few decades ago
Cool story.
>>61020232
Citation was provided and it's true more men can carry a fucking 3mm larger watch
sorry you were wrong
>>61020250
The meme of huge watches didn't start because men literally got taller/larger. Your own link proves this.
>>61020232
There have been popular 40+mm watches made for 60 years anon
the famous seiko turtle was 44mm and came out 40+ years ago
shit didn't happen yesterday
the 37-39mm mens watch fad actually came out of japan in the 60s after the war and that's just because japs are short fucks
40-42mm has been average for swiss watches for 100 years
>>61020283
>the 37-39mm mens watch fad actually came out of japan in the 60s after the war and that's just because japs are short fucks
Explain why rolexes from before the 60s are <=36mm then.
>>61020264
>The meme of huge watches didn't start because men literally got taller/larger. Your own link proves this.
nigger watches used to be huge, the first wrist watches were strapped pocket watches, you have no idea what you are talking about
you are focused on some narrow market for watches in the 20th century by some specific region, not sure what you have in mind but 40-42mm watches have never been out of the ordinary, you are wrong
>>61020311
>watches which were never originally meant to be worn on the wrist were large
Stop the presses.
>>61017295
I'm in Umatilla Oregon. It's triple digits here and there. Combine that with being in a vibrating military truck, and yea.
>>61017300 <- not me.
>>61020306
>Explain why rolexes from before the 60s are <=36mm then.
because you are focusing on one model from one era to selectively prove your incorrect point
Explain to me why Panerai divers from the 1930s were 47-50mm
>>61020311
>the first wrist watches were strapped pocket watches
The first wrist watches were all women's watches, and were very small.
When there was a very large surge in demand for men's wristwatches during the first world war and the need for soldiers to have wristwatches and the general public wanting to follow that trend. Very few men's wristwatches existed, especially outside of america. The solution was to repurpose existing pocketwatches by welding wire lugs to them.
>>61020410
Panerai were using bigger pocket watch movements originally if I recall.
>>61020410
>stick lugs on an oversized rolex pocketwatch
>italian navy uses it
That's why.
>>61019939
I was a bit scared of breaking something but apparently you're just supposed to pull the back open.
Here's the middle Zenith.
What is this worth?
More pics soon.
>>61020410
>>61020459
During no time in the modern history of wristwatches (last 125 years say) have 40-45mm wristwatches been unusual or rare
deal with it
yes some companies made girl watches in the 35mm range just like today, but normal sized watches have always been made. I could cite examples from major manufacturers from every decade for the last 100 years
>>61020467
Looks cool
>>61020515
>40-45mm modified pocketwatches
Fixed that for you.
>>61020452
>The first wrist watches were all women's watches, and were very small.
not really nineball
the first fucking watch made for a woman was 100+mm in diamater
do some research
>>61020533
>>>61020515 (You)
>>40-45mm modified pocketwatches
>Fixed that for you.
>the rolex submariner is a modified pocket watch
look you cunt, you might not like facts but 40mm+ has been produced every decade consistently for 100 years
what part of that fact don't you get?
>>61020563
What part of "they were pocketwatches, not wristwatches" don't you get m8?
>>61020546
REKT
E
K
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tripfags BTFO
>>61020568
>What part of "they were pocketwatches, not wristwatches" don't you get m8?
the part where you were wrong
at what point did they stop being pocket watches in your mind? From that date on there were still 40-44mm watches produced in volume from major manufacturers
You are simply wrong and dense
and a wristlet
>>61020582
>at what point did they stop being pocket watches in your mind?
Literally when they stopped taking a pocket watch and soldering on lugs to the case.
>>61020597
>Literally when they stopped taking a pocket watch and soldering on lugs to the case.
Give me a date, and I will provide you with 42mm watches made shortly after that date
not complex
>watches were big in the 1890s! because they were pocket watches so despite the fact they were big it does not count!
>when they stopped using pocket watches there were still big watches, but that does not count because reasons!
>for 50 years Seiko et all have been making 44+mm non pocketwatches, but those don't count, because reasons!
fuck
>>61020626
>A seiko turtle was the normal size for a watch
>seiko's first diver was 37mm
>>61020515
>yes some companies made girl watches in the 35mm range just like today
30-33mm is historically "boy's size," or unisex. 34mm+ is men's territory. Women wearing watches over 30mm generally either have their arm dwarfed by the watch or are.. large women.
40mm+ watches used to be fairly uncommon outside of dive watches and chronographs. Dive watches tend to be big to accommodate the bezel but also just creating a durable shell to protect the mechanism. And chonographs are often bigger simply because the more complex movements were often bigger.
That being said, even looking back to many of the larger watches that were divers or chronographs, it wasn't as common to see them quite as large as today. Take the Hamilton Chrono-Diver reference 647. That was a 37mm watch, and was one of Hamilton's larger watches of the time.
>>61020546
You can embed a small woman's watch inside of a bangle or armlet, but that doesn't mean the watch isn't small or that sort of thing is typical.
Women's watches as worn by normal women before WWI were quite small.
>>61020673
>big watches existed and were popular but since other smaller watches existed the bigger watches did not exist
fuck man I am not saying wristlet jap and swiss watches were never made, I am saying 42-44mm mens wristwatches are NOT a fucking recent meme and have been around since WWI and prior consistently
not complicated, you are wrong
>>61020694
>40mm+ watches used to be fairly uncommon outside of dive watches and chronographs.
Yeah the kind of watches grown men wear.
point being you are jumping into a convo where someone said that all watches 40mm+ are recent memes and that is simply not the case
>>61020696
Digging up a select few examples of 40+mm watches, or pocketwatches with lugs soldered to them doesn't mean that's what the norm was.
>>61020710
>Yeah the kind of watches grown men wear.
Yeah, and most of them were still under 40mm. Like the Hamilton I mentioned.
>>61020694
>Women's watches as worn by normal women before WWI were quite small.
womens watches as worn by women now are quite small
children's watches as worn by children now are quite small
Diver watches, chronos and watches grown men wear are not uncommon in the 40+mm range and never have been
>>61020739
>>61020739
>>61020739
>>61020739
>>61020711
>Digging up a select few examples of 40+mm watches, or pocketwatches with lugs soldered to them doesn't mean that's what the norm was.
Is the seiko turtle a select few pocket watch with lugs welded to the side?
you can't give a date when companies stopped doing this because you know i will provide watches just after that date of 40+ mm diameter
You
are
wrong
>>61020762
>select few examples
>seiko turtle
Maybe I should have said example? 'Cause you've only given a single example of a 40+mm watch that isn't a pocketwatch with lugs stuck on it.
>this single example is the norm
>>61020734
Depends what you mean by uncommon. I certainly would expect the average to have been far below 40mm until recently.
Take the Panerai example you gave of a dive watch. And then take the Hamilton I gave. Which of those is the volume producer whose watches are available to the general public and occupies the wrists of the masses?
I'm sure you can find many examples of large watches of we check the old catalogs, but if you were to be teleported back to the 1970s and be told "you have 10 minutes to find someone wearing a watch 42mm or you die" you'd be sweating really hard.
>>61020781
>Depends what you mean by uncommon. I certainly would expect the average to have been far below 40mm until recently.
Depends on what you mean by recently
is 60 years ago recent?
>>61020827
Well I was kind of thinking within the time frame you mentioned >>61020110
>50 years ago
So recent would be within the last 10-15 years.
Certainly 60 years ago, it would be much easier to find a man wearing a 34mm watch than a 42mm. It's the opposite today.
>>61020781
>, but if you were to be teleported back to the 1970s and be told "you have 10 minutes to find someone wearing a watch 42mm or you die" you'd be sweating really hard.
bullshit
SEIKO 6309
done
>>61020876
well seiko and rolex have produced popular 44mm watches for 40-50+ years
and that's just off the top of my head
>>61020776
>Maybe I should have said example? 'Cause you've only given a single example of a 40+mm watch that isn't a pocketwatch with lugs stuck on it.
rolex deapsea
>>61020879
>I named a model, therefor I know they're very plentiful and it would be easy to find watches of this size.
There's not much I can do for you if you're not willing to think about this.
>>61020927
>Original stainless steel case is 33mm in diameter by 12mm thick and has a polished finish. The 6532 is popularly thought to share a case with the early Explorers. However, this is not the case (pun intended!). Instead, the 6532 case has straight case sides and thin lugs, which distinguishes it from an Explorer. It is also 1mm in diameter smaller than an Explorer.
http://www.rolexmagazine.com/2013/11/the-history-of-rolex-deep-sea-model.html
>>61020914
Rolex production numbers over the last 40-50 years would be far and away biased south of 40mm.
>>61020781
>I'm sure you can find many examples of large watches of we check the old catalogs, but if you were to be teleported back to the 1970s and be told "you have 10 minutes to find someone wearing a watch 42mm or you die" you'd be sweating really hard.
>>61020976
they have been making 44mm deap seas since the 1960s for at least 55 years
fail
>>61020999
>>>61020781
>>I'm sure you can find many examples of large watches of we check the old catalogs, but if you were to be teleported back to the 1970s and be told "you have 10 minutes to find someone wearing a watch 42mm or you die" you'd be sweating really hard.
so you don't know what a seiko 6309 is?
all you are saying is "they made 40+ mm watches up untill WWII, but those dont count because reasons, then there was a fag trend to manlet watches as the japs started making lots of them after the war, then shortly after there was a trend to 40+ mm watches which is all most all they make to day"
seems like for the last 120 years 40mm has been more in demand except for the faggy 70s
I wonder who could fix this. Looks fairly clean on the inside though, right? Outside is a bit rusty. How would I go about restoring this pocket watch?
>>61021064
anything can be fixed for a price
if that thing needs more than a quick cleaning it will cost more than it's worth by far to get it accurate and running
>>61021031
[citation needed]
All I can find is the deep sea special, and the deepseas made after 2000.
>>61021051
>seems like for the last 120 years 40mm has been more in demand except for the faggy 70s
I only have been bringing up the 70s because it's an easy point to think about that's fully within the 50 year timeframe you brought up.
The 60s, 50s and 40s were no different.
Once again, you think just because you can name a couple very large models you think it's normal. It's not, those models did not represent much market share. You need to see this >>61020781
>I'm sure you can find many examples of large watches of we check the old catalogs, but if you were to be teleported back to the 1970s and be told "you have 10 minutes to find someone wearing a watch 42mm or you die" you'd be sweating really hard.
Lets do one thing:
Open chrono24. Search for all men's watches made from 1950 to 1979.
Now, will this be 100% representative of the common watches sold at the time? No not 100%. We might see MORE larger watches because they're more desirable today and more worth taking the time to list and sell. 32mm watches are hard to sell today, so they might be underrepresented compared to their actual market share at the time. But if we still see most watches are smaller, than it will make sense that smaller watches were the norm.
The results-
Size : Number of listings
45MM: 29
44MM: 65
43MM: 105
42MM: 293
41MM: 211
40MM: 836
39MM: 234
38MM: 507
37MM: 563
36MM: 1945
35MM: 1221
34MM: 1914
33MM: 524
32MM: 271
31MM: 180
30MM: 124
Right. So even from this, we can see that the number of 30mm watches are twice as available as 44mm watches. The most typical sizes for men is 34mm to 36mm.
>>61021187
again
the guy I was talking to said anything over 40mm was a meme created in the last 15 years
my point is the fact that that is not true
many of the most sought after watches, especially divers and aviation watches that grown men tended to wear, from the 60s and 50s and 30s are 40mm+
it is not a meme started in 2003
>>61021134
Holy fuck that thing is ugly.
>>61021220
>gets shown numbers that prove huge watches were the minority
>but the most sought after watches were 40mm+!
Prove it, with actual numbers to back up your claims.
>>61021269
>Prove it, with actual numbers to back up your claims.
you want me to fucking hold your hand and go over every large diver ever made and how much they are worth now, along with all aviator and seiko diver watches from the 60s?
from these to the turtle you are going to have to look them up yourself
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=35216-4354&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1&_nkw=panerai+watch&_sop=3
>>61021312
>muh turtle
lmao, still can't get away from the one shining example.
>>61021220
You've said a lot of things, including saying
>because men are taller and larger framed today
But we see that 34-36mm watches from 60 to 30 years ago, lets take a look at this image of the last few years.
40-44mm has taken over.
Keep in mind, 42mm is 43% larger by area than 35mm. It is not "just 7mm." It's huge by comparison.
If we're wearing larger watches, it's not because we're taller. Maybe because everyone is getting so FAT. Or fat egos. Fat watches for fat people.
>>61021324
>lmao, still can't get away from the one shining example.
lmao still cant accept that some of the most desirable watches ever made have been large
sorry if that 80 year old watch proves you wrong
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=44mm+watch&_ftrt=901&_sop=16&_sadis=15&_dmd=1&_osacat=0&_stpos=35216&_ftrv=1&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xseikdo+turtle.TRS1&_nkw=seikdo+turtle&_sacat=0
>>61021325
35mm is a joke
People don't post or collect that shit, 39-40mm are the most desirable watches.
My point is they have always made large watches, they have always been very sought after and their resurgence in the last 30 years after the faggy 70s could be due to the fact humans are larger
I am 6'4 and have 8+ inch wrists
YOU might not be able to wear a 40mm watch without it hanging off both sides of your wrist, but I and a lot of people can
a lot more people are 6'2+ these days than ever before in human history.
The watches people post here are normally about 40mm
the idea that a 42mm watch is a recent meme and can never look good on anyone has been demonstrated false in this thread
if you don't like it
stay mad
>>61021437
>39-40mm are the most desirable watches.
Prove it, with sales numbers.
>>61021437
>35mm is a joke
35 was normal
>could be due to the fact humans are larger
it's not
>>61021530
Once again, unless you mean fatter. Because yeah, our fatness has increased more in line with watch sizes than height.
>>61021458
>>39-40mm are the most desirable watches.
TODAY'S sales numbers?!?!
oh, I don't have to prove it, you can go look yourself, there is hardly a 35mm mans watch for sale out there
If you go to ebay and just look up sold watches by price the most expensive are disproportionately 40mmish watches
I am not going to walk you through that, Rolex and Omega don't even make popular 35mm watches anymore that is self evident
you have to hunt to find a watch that small marketed to a man(let)
>>61021560
With old sales numbers, you daft cunt. You keep claiming large watches were the most desirable several decades ago, but you've yet to back up this claim.
>>61021530
>>could be due to the fact humans are larger
>it's not
thanks for stating that fact if it were a fact
you don't think the fact humans are larger than ever before could prompt them to want a watch a few mm larger? seems pretty reasonable to me
a higher percentage of men are over 6 feet tall now than at any time in human history
>>61021544
>Once again, unless you mean fatter. Because yeah, our fatness has increased more in line with watch sizes than height.
no i mean taller poopy head and have posted citations for that in this thread
you didn't know men have gotten taller on average in the last 100 years?
>>61021584
>thanks for stating that fact if it were a fact
It is a fact. Humans didn't get taller in the short time between 36mm watches being the norm and 40mm+ watches being the norm.
>>61021581
>With old sales numbers, you daft cunt. You keep claiming large watches were the most desirable several decades ago, but you've yet to back up this claim.
sorry if i don't have sales number handy for watches by size from the specific single decade you think they were more popular cuntypoo
but the very most desirable collector's watches though all time that fetch the highest prices to day are on average not fucking 35mm lol
>>61021593
You're talking about a minor increase in height and a substantial increase in watch size.
Again, our size in WIDTH has increased much more. It would be a more reasonable explanation.
>>61021601
>It is a fact. Humans didn't get taller in the short time between 36mm watches being the norm and 40mm+ watches being the norm.
Yes they did and are getting taller still
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150513-will-humans-keep-getting-taller
>>61021616
>You're talking about a minor increase in height and a substantial increase in watch size.
So i was right
you could just say i was right
>>61021620
>source that compares height from 150 years ago to today
Literally read your own source dickhead.
>>61021620
Nevermind that you haven't even proven that there's a link between height and wrist size.
>>61021653
>Nevermind that you haven't even proven that there's a link between height and wrist size.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>61021639
>Literally read your own source dickhead
ok
The average human height has gone up in industrialised countries ranging from the United Kingdom to the United States to Japan, with gains of up to 10 centimetres. But for height gains over the last 150 years, one nation stands head and shoulders above all others. Today, young Dutch men and women average around 184cm and 170cm in height, respectively – both, on average, 19cm taller than their mid-19th Century counterparts. "That's a good number to shock people with," says John Komlos, professor emeritus of economic history at the University of Munich.
>>61021637
You're so focused on trying to be correct that you're simply not able to comprehend the breadth of the conversation.
Ultimately I was acknowledging there/ might/ be a minor increase in height, but it's not a reasonable explanation for the increase in watch size.
Also the source you listed says we've been at a plateau for 40-50 years. And remember the information I shared? 35mm was the norm then. We haven't grown since then, according to your source, and yet watches have increased in size substantially.
Which means the explanation is more likely to be fat egos or fat bodies.
>>61021686
>Ultimately I was acknowledging there/ might/ be a minor increase in height, but it's not a reasonable explanation for the increase in watch size.
from a 44mm diver in the 30s to divers averaging 42mm or 40mm now?
it's not unusual for a 42mm watch to exist and has not been for 100 years
I am done here, you guys win
42mm watches were invented in 2008 and have ruined horology, they all look stupid and nobody has 8inch wrists, people are not taller today than before
you should write letters to all major brands to bring back twink 34mm watches just to make you happy and provide your reasons
i am sure they will all stop making normal size watches and listen to you
>>61021731
>from a 44mm diver in the 30s to divers averaging 42mm or 40mm now?
You're being willfully ignorant to what we've discussed. You still need to read this >>61020781
>I'm sure you can find many examples of large watches of we check the old catalogs, but if you were to be teleported back to the 1970s and be told "you have 10 minutes to find someone wearing a watch 42mm or you die" you'd be sweating really hard.
>42mm watches were invented in 2008 and have ruined horology
This is a strawman to make your arguments seem more reasonable than they are.
>people are not taller today than before
This is also a strawman. You didn't even read or understand your own source.
>>61021731
>gets shown smaller watches were the norm
>his own source shows there was a plateau in height, completely disproving the argument that an increase in height is what caused an increase in the diameter of watches
>MUH TURTLE
Just let it go anon.
>>61022117
You can't bump this. You can use the other thread for new posts.
>>61022120
It was a joke.
>>61022123
Please God make them go faster.