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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>Headphone purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.

If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous thread:
>>60981431
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>bluetooth headphones are a meme

yeah, no, fuck you. they're fast enough for great sound quality and convenient as fuck

>b-b-but muh battery life

for people whpo never get out of their basements and have access to a power outlet 24/7, you faggots do complain a lot about battery life.
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>>61003100
>wireless
>great sound quality
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>>61003130
Got any proof to back up that statement?
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>>61003137
>listening to lossy audio with a lossy bluetooth codec
>stacking lossy codecs
Enjoy your audible artifacts.
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how do you carry around earbuds without them absolutely falling apart?
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>>61003191
Mine just don't. What types are you using that do that?
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>>61003162
>he doesn't store 512GBs of FLAC on his phone
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>>61003191
Carrying case? That being said, I like to add stress relief to both ends of my IEMs in the form of JB Weld.
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>>61003202
ROCK Zircons.

i just put them in my pants pocket and they always end up destroyed in a few months
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>>61003232
Weird, maybe it's just because I'm old-fashioned and use the traditional designed earbuds that they dont fall apart. but what is it that's breaking exactly?
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>>61003230
>JB Weld
That's a pretty cool idea.
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Hey guys

what is the best way to prevent the plug part of my earbuds from breaking apart?

I had had this pair of earbuds for a year and a half and the thicker, harder rubber on the plug separated a little (exposing the wire) and now the earbuds are fucked.

I always worried about this happening given how much they bend there. Is there a way to prevent this from happening in the future?

and im talkign about the circled part
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>>61003232
>I put them in my pants pocket
That's probably it. Cord's making sharp bends in the cord makes it shit the bed quicker. I just have them in an altoids case.
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>>61003443
I haven't had a pair die to a loose solder yet since I started doing that.
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>>61003468
Cover the whole motherfucker in JB Weld?
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>>61003468
It's called a strain relief.
Not much you can do, put some heatshrink over the part in question and then some electrical tape half on-half off - softer than heatshrink. Best you can do, really.
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>>61003557
complete tech autist here, what is JB weld? is it like welding/soldering something?
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The OP image called out to me.
I'm just going to say that those mid-level Grados break too easily.
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>>61003571
It's a two-tube epoxy that you mix together. It has steel in it and it's literally strong enough to hold together a cracked engine block once it hardens.
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>>61003605
is this it?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006O1ICE

so what would i do exactly? i buy a new set of earbuds and basically just put the jb weld epoxy on the right angle part of the jack right after opening the package?
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>>61003649
That's it. That shit ain't coming off, bending or moving once it dries, that's for sure.
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>>61003690
so how exactly would that work? I think I'll get the quick one rather than the full one.

would I just get a paper plate or something and add a few drops of each tube to it? then what would i mix them together and spread it onto the plug with? i would just want to put a thin layer of the entire plug right?
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>>61003764
The regular one is stronger. You mix them together then spread on whatever you want. I haven't actually done what you're trying to do before; I just add a little dot of stress relief to each end where the cable meets the existing stress relief or earbud. What you're trying to do is different from what I've done so I can't instruct you. Do what you think will work for your needs.
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>>61003059
>$30-$90
>USA
>PC
>Full
>Closed
>past headphones
JBL Reference 510 Noise Canceling Headphone, iHome iB50B

I liked my last two headphones, as they had decent quality, JBL was bright and warmer though.

Just looking for some good quality headphones to listen HD audio. What does /g/ recommend?
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>>61003829
i think that's basically what i want to do. im actually not talking about the entire plug i guess. it would just be this part only, right out of the box. just putting the epoxy inside those gaps

is that the part you're talking about? and if so, what do you use to actually apply the stuff on
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>>61003887
Yes. The circle part is the stress relief. Use something disposable to apply it, like a stick. A popsicle stick would work well.
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I know this may sounds like a dumb question, but can on ear headphones makes your ears feel cooler than a pair of over ear?
It's summer time and my over ear headphones are making my ears super hot and headphones uncomfortable to use.
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>>61003873
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170604122955&SearchText=Takstar+PRO82
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>>61003873
creative aurvana live
m40x + brainwavs pads
brainwavs hm5
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>>61003873
XPT100/HM5
CB-1/MM185
Takstar Pro82
Creative Aurvana Live
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What mic do you guys use for simple VoIP? I'm trying to work on being less autistic. I was thinking about picking up the massdrop modmic clone going on right now or some usb mic like a samson go (is this ok for voip without getting an arm?) so I don't have to deal with motherboard audio jacks or usb sound cards.
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>>61003226
>512 GB
You have to be fucking retarded.
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>>61004234
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you can all distinguish sounds that are behind and in front of you, right? I have no issues with that in real life, but can't seem to do it with headphones.
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>>61004335
Listen to some binaural albums.

https://youtu.be/QDW3ZNcerMw
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>>61004335
Don't wear shit headphones.
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>>61004216
The Zalman mic that clips onto headphone cables. Previously I had a Blue Snowball until I figured it was excessive and cumbersome to use just to talk to in-game randos.
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just posting to say hot glue works gr8 for fixing broken iem housing
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>>61004345
nice album, but I still can't tell if anything's supposed to be playing from the front.
I've listened to lots of binaural recordings, and instead of hearing the frontal arc the sound's direction always loops back.

>>61004406
I'm using HD600s with an Aune X1S. As over-ears, I doubt they've incorrect fit, and the same goes for my custom-tipped ER-4s.
Looks like I'm missing out.
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Idol trash reporting in.

What's your waifu and setup, Anon?
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>>61003100
>wireless
>great sound quality
>"fast"
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how do I know that a headphone won't make me deaf?
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>>61004814
Get something neutral that's a little low-sensitivity (like HD600) and use it at low volume. Preferably with a low gain amp.

Avoid headphones with boosted treble like beyers.
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>>61004814
Put the volume settings on low, you imbecile.
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Yeah what's wrong with wireless? It forces people to do the right thing and put the DAC on the headphone itself, eliminating a whole class of quality degradation issues. The signal path remains digital until it's time to drive the headphones. It cures the $10000 cables autism.

Wanna complain? Then say it's got a shitty DAC, the frequency response sucks, whatever, but don't complain about the digital data transmission scheme, whether wired or wireless. You'll look stupid
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>>61004874
>do the right thing
>put the DAC on the headphone itself

Pick one.
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I just ordered jvc ha rx700 headphones. I can still cancel but has anyone tried them?
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>>61004904
There is no reason not to convert to analog as late as possible on the signal path.
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I've started listening to more music recently and I'm thinking about going from Sennheiser HD 201 to LINDY HF-100, sound good? I found it in one of the pastebins and the listed features and price seemed good. I could buy something more expensive but I'm not sure my hearing and the quality of the stuff I listen to would warrant it. I'm assuming at the very least that the HF-100 won't be overkill.
That said I've had the 201s for a long while and before that I had some shit gaming headset so I don't really know anything. Is there a price point that's considered especially good value for someone in my position?
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>>61004968
Stuffing both the DAC and amp inside the cup of a headphone is in no way the ideal method for doing things. You'll end up with the cheapest possible garbage stuffed in there just because it's small enough to fit.
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>>61004927
I've had those for a while, I really liked them. A bit bassy though. Eventually they broke after a couple of years, but that was just me I think. They're pretty comfy as well.
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>>61004995
Right, thanks! They do look very comfy which is why I picked them.
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>>61004971
The HD598 would be a more significant upgrade, and past that, the HD600.
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>>61004874
>eliminating a whole class of quality degradation issues.
You mean replacing it with digital degradation. Wireless codecs are all lossy, which is why nobody takes them seriously.
>The signal path remains digital until it's time to drive the headphones.
Same can be said for wired. The difference is there's a cable. If it worries you so much, you can always get a premium audiophile cable, you audiophool.
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>>61004981
Remember you've got to stuff in a battery, too.
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>>61004971
I'd suggest to go straight to HD600, which should last you, rather than settle for a minor upgrade.
Just keep in mind that is to use indoors. We don't know how you're using your HD201, but as they're cheapo disposable crap, some people take them outside.
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>Budget
150€
>Location
EU
>Source
mostly phone (s8)
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
closed
>Sound signature
neutral or v-shaped

I'm looking for a new pair of iems with detachable cable and decent isolation.
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>>61005268
Why would you want detachable cables on IEMs
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>>61005094
HD598 is discontinued.
>>61004971
You can get K612 for 120€ and DT880 for 170€, those would be my sweet spot for value-for-money. Philips SHP9500 too if they sell them for less than those two where you live.
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Are KZ ZS5 any good?
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>>61005567
coz my last 3 pair had broken cables, and i dont want to buy wireless memes
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Master race reporting in
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>>61005717
I'm wondering about this as well as what the sound signatures are of the following:

*KZ-ATE
*KZ ZS5
*Vsonic VSD2/VSD2S
*MEMT X5
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>>61005094
>>61005243
Oh yeah, I use them at home on my PC. For more expensive ones I'd definitely want to try them out first. The HD201 are unfortunately the best headphones I've ever used so spending 400€ would be quite a jump and harder to justify when I have no idea what they sound like compared to cheaper ones. 200€is more doable but on the upper edge of what I was looking to spend, without trying them myself at least.
>>61005622
I noticed all the recommended headphones seem to be open or semi open. I figured closed would be the way to go for the isolation even for home use, though I should mention I live in an apartment with a roommate. Sometimes it gets noisy and I wish the HD201 blocked more.

I guess I'll take the opportunity to ask: how good is good isolation? I don't mind ambient sound, so if good isolation can't almost block out somewhat loud sounds (like stomping upstairs or yelling in another room) I might as well go open.
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I'm really torn on the choice of a new IEM
price range would be anything up to 80ish €.
My first choice would be the RE400 but gay amazon wouldnt ship earlier than next monday.
IEMs I have looked into and rejected, due to sound or unavailability
>se215
>sony mh1c
>mk5
was recommended the Final audio heaven's 2 for 80€, similar to the re400 with a more fun treble iirc, but they black model is kinda gay with the gold body
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What am I in for?
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Need something light on the go, for public transport and shit. Carrying full size deadweights is impractical.

Is Xiaomi /hpg/ approved, or is it a meme?
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>>61004981
Size isn't a limitation. If the headphone is sensitive enough, that cheap tiny device acting as amp and DAC is going to be more than enough. A chip to do that doesn't need to be any larger than the solder points in your headphone now and weigh a fraction of a gram. See Apple's Lightning to Stereo as an example of small and high quality DAC/amp for simple headphone loads:

https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&no=82

0.3 Ohm output impedance, 0.5 Vrms and respectable measurements all around in a device which is fitted completely inside the Lightning plug. You could fit a lot higher quality chip inside headphones with minimal costs, higher power, DSP, wireless connectivity etc.

>>61004874
Common universal codecs aren't lossless but Bluetooth has supported very high quality lossy data transmission for years now. Aptx Lossless(not really lossless) is excellent.
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>>61003137
>yuuko and mio laughing isnt enough evidence
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Would Sennheiser HD700 be a nice upgrade to a K7XX or is it not worth it at around 400€ ?
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>>61006574
The HD700s treble spike is even worse than the HD800. If you've listened to it first and don't mind the treble then go for it.
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>>61005945
>200€is more doable but on the upper edge of what I was looking to spend, without trying them myself at least.
With that budget, HD579, HD599, k702.
Still, my suggestion is to stretch to the really good (HD600) option.
You already know what Sennheisers are like, HD600 are merely way more accurate and durable than the HD201 you're experienced with.
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>>61005945
>noise, sharing home
Unless you have someone within 3 or 4 steps of you, open is the way to go.
You'd be giving up a lot of comfort and sound vs price by going closed. It's just how it is.
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>>61006574
Do yourself a favor and grab HD600 instead.
Almost nobody likes HD700. The general consensus is that HD600 is the best purchase among HD600/700/800/800S.
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>>61004792

Here's my setup and waifu
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>>61006790
But what about HD650?
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HD 6XX drop is back.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx?mode=guest_open
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>>61006965
>$249.99
ehehehe
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Can people stop recommending XPT-100 and HM5? They're shit. Stupidly high clamp, awful build, shitty headband padding, shitty cable noise issues, gross dips in the mids and highs making them sound nasal-y. Their only redeeming factors is their isolation, comfy pads and good case. M40x are a better alternative even with their dogshit pads. HD280's are better if you want isolation.
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>>61007013
I know, you can get better headphones for 80 dollars less.

https://www.amazon.com/BeyerDynamic-Premium-Special-Version-717258/dp/B01MXR65M6
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>>61007103
but these are not dt990
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>>61007103
Try even lower
http://www.ebay.com/itm/dt880/311742462942
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>>61004874
Wireless headphones will not be acceptable to audiophiles until they use lossless data transmission methods, as stacking lossy codes when you listen to lossy audio files will lead to audible artifacts. You look stupid for not understanding this simple fact which is not an opinion.
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>>61006831
Cute setup, nice waifu.
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>>61006934
Forgot about that one.
Similar to HD600 in price and sound. Parts are interchangeable. HD650 is less neutral, and most do prefer HD600.
Like the HD700, it does of course have a few fans that swear by it.
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>>61006934
Not him, but they're both great. Just depends which you prefer. I love my HD650.

>>61006965
>$250

Called it.
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>>61006934
It's a HD600 with a bit more bass. Less neutral, but some may prefer it.
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>>61007199
>he stores his audio in lossy formats
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>>61007130
>DT990

V-shaped trash
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>>61007391
Lossless isn't terribly practical for portable use, and normally when people buy headphones for home use they use them for listening to more than just music. Most anime downloads have lossy audio. Most people use Youtube at least once in a while. Most video game audio is lossy, etc.
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>>61007435
>caring about audio quality in shittily mastered games and even shittier mastered ebin youtubers
lol
>he doesn't have 512GB storage on his phone
double lol
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>>61007416
>HD600

Neutral trash
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www.statusaudio.com

You're welcome.
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>>61007435
>>61007391
Idol trash here.
Talk about lossy...
https://jmvalin.ca/opus/opus-1.2/
My jaw dropped with the samples of 1.2 at 32kbit. This is insane good for 32kbit.
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>>61007766
No reputation to speak of.
And, what's known so far isn't very good.
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>>61007815
Yeah, before I got a phone with tons of storage I kept all my music in opus or vorbis 256kbps. I'd imagine that'd be transparent even on top of Bluetooth sbc or aptx but a test would need to be done to say for sure.
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>>61007827
https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/16/13641996/best-headphones-under-100-status-cb1-review

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/status-audio-cb-1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenextweb.com/gadgets/2016/09/27/review-status-audios-budget-friendly-headphones-sound-too-good-for-their-price/%3Famp%3D1

Seems pretty good to me. Seems like they're the best headphone at that budget.
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>>61007827
>Endless 4/5 star reviews from tech sights
>Detachable cable
>Open and closed back model for under $80

Yeah you sound like you're in denial.
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>>61007890
They're not bad for the price but their build is pretty attrocious from what I've seen. Not sure how good they are on the warranty side of things.
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>>61007890
>>61007827
>>61007902
Same person here.
Disregard. Confused them with something else entirely. CB-1 is reputable.
I was thinking about some shit that's been popular lately and I cannot recall the name of, which is modular pick-your-modules-and-make-your-custom-cans.
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>>61005910
I've heard ATE's bassy as fuck.
>>61005989
Just get a FiiO Q1/A3.
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>>61007922
aiaiai headphones
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>>61007934
>aiaiai
Yeah, that's it.
https://aiaiai.dk/
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>>61007902
>CB-1
>denial
/d/ is leaking.
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Are sony MDR-1As a good upgrade from my hyperx cloud 2?
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Anybody got any book to get into audio engineering?
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I just came in here to shill out the Fidelio X2s I bought like 2 years ago.

The headband is still strong, perfectly shaped for my head. The pads haven't even gone bad. They're perfect super comfy. I wear them 12-14 hours a day like a fucking neet(even though im not one).

I wish someone was in here to answer these questions for me 2 years ago. Thankfully I didn't make a mistake.

If anyone has any questions for X2s fire away.
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>>61008041
http://www.diyaudio.com/
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Convince me not to buy ER4XRs
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>>61007930
>FiiO Q1/A3
Too big and require charging.
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i'm thinking on buying the HD6xx, how do they compare to the 600/650?
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>>61008699
It's the same as an HD650, but I hope you're prepared to wait 6 months to actually receive it. I'm not exaggerating.
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>>61008758
i know about the waiting time but the price is way better than any i can get in my country
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>>61007285
The 250 isn't even the worst part of this. Dec 24th ship date. What the fuck.
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>>61007815
I've been using 192 kbps Opus on my Clip+ for a long time. I still wouldn't use it with wireless.
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>>61008793
Me neither.
But fuck, isn't that really cool for 32kbit/s.
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>>61008630
Have you ever even tried Etys? It may be wiser to try an MK5 first to see if you like the comfort, then sell those if you like them and get the ER4XR.
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>>61008630
>ES4XRs
Look into ES4SRs. They're more neutral and provide overall superior sound.
XR is just a niggerbass version for fools.
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So, I need a good and cheap wireless headphone, decent and with good quality. Preferably something that I can buy from china (In my country everything is too expansive, like $1000 dollars iPhone 6 64 ._.)
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>>61008033
DT770/Custom Studio would be the direct upgrade as the Clouds without gamer branding (Takstar Pro80) are knockoff DT770's.
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>>61008866
>good
>wireless
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>>61008946
Help me bro, I can't use this wired headphones anymore. It always stop working bcz the wire broke too easy
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>>61008946
Satania a cute. A cute!!
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>>61009026
see
>>61007199
I would recommend headphones with a detachable, replaceable cable.
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>>61009056
I'm not an audiophile, I'm just a fucking tired consumer that give up about buying wired headphones to just fuck the wire ;-;
I was thinking about Riversong AirX 2. But what do you recommend? (I've never see a detachable/replaceable cable in a headphone...)
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>>61009130
https://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub
Follow this advice and we can give you better recommendations. That being said, Superlux has some cheap headphones with detachable cables that you can probably order from China.
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>>61009130
Just get one with a detachable cable
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>>61009160
>Budget - Max 40-50$
>Location - Brazil
>Source - Smartphone
>Type of headphone - earphone actually
>Comfort level - Good enough for use like 4hrs/day
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>>61009278
it's slightly above your budget but you should really consider the Philips shp9500
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How do you guys clean out earphones ? I use sticky tack to take all the dirt out
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>>61009429
There are flange tools you can buy for IEMs.
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>>61009371
good luck getting shp9500s to brazil for cheap lmao

also he wanted an earphone
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>>61009371
>Philips shp9500
Bro, I only need a earphone to listen podcasts and some musics in the bus, school, etc. I just wont buy those shit beats and skullcandy. Btw, it should be good a discreet earphone ;-;
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>>61009429
Look into hearing aid cleaning kits. Come with some cool stuff. Otherwise solvents and a good cloth works well. Tape is good too as you can get earwax off the grille without pushing it in.
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The little anti-earwax screens in my IEMs fell out and I lost them. If I notice earwax changing their sound, would a soak in hydrogen peroxide and then sticking them in some rice overnight work?
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Is there a big difference between the RP-HJE125 and RP-HJE120? It looks like the RP-HJE125 is a little cheaper + has a bigger driver. It seems like a no-brainer, what's the catch?


Also, are there headphones like the RP-HJE125 that have less microphonics and a better cord? Looking to stay under $25.
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>>61009723
The RP-HJE120 have several credible measurements online which can be used as references for EQing. The RP-HJE125 do not. I'd purchase the RP-HJE120 for this reason. Their frequency response measurements suggest they can be EQ'd to close to neutrality with only 3-4 parametric filters.
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>>61009762
do you have links to any good rockbox settings?
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Why HD650 are so veiled?
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>>61009802
Here's a graph of the HJE-120 flipped vertically. Ignore the dotted line. If you simply use a parametric equalizer with a GUI to create EQ settings which match this line, then use a sine wave generator as described by https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones#SineGen to refine the treble EQ (since the locations and quantity of the treble peaks to your ears may not match the locations in the graph), you should be able to get it pretty close to neutral yourself. Note that you're supposed to hear a treble peak at 2-3 kHz and these earphones are accurate at that frequency, so you should not touch that peak with EQ.
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>>61009941
Oops, posted the non-flipped one.
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>>61009613
Jesus no. Rice actually does nothing. Use silica gel.

That said, you can buy the earwax filters from various places. Aliexpress would be the cheapest
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>>61009808
define "veiled"
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>>61009808
If you're coming from bright headphones like akg, hifiman or similar the hd650s sound veiled because of the rolled off treble and bass bump. The hd600s sound more neutral imo.
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>>61003059
really makes you think
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>>61009941
>>61009963
Also, I wouldn't try boosting the 9 kHz+ treble at all. It'll probably do more harm than good. Just use EQ cuts and you won't have to bother with a preamp setting to prevent clipping.
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>>61009941
>>61009963
>>61010069

I'm using the rockbox EQ, which is not graphical so this may be hard to implement. I can set target frequency, Q, and gain for 10 filters.

I guess I can match the frequency and gain at 10 different points in the chart but not sure about the Q value. I know this is the width of the peak...just use a higher Q value where the graph is less parabolic?
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>>61010281
and precut at -10db?
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>>61010281
There are plenty of parametric equalizers for PCs with GUIs which use similar parameters to Rockbox's EQ. Some of them might use a different form of determining filter width than Q, but there are online conversion tools for this. Any parametric EQ will use frequency and gain as parameters. Rockbox should implement parametric EQ settings from another parametric equalizer GUI like Electri-Q or Room EQ Wizard exactly the same way as the PC EQ.
The main limitation for Rockbox's EQ is it doesn't allow for low enough of Q values for my liking. You can EQ down the HJE-120's bass boost with a single low-Q filter but I doubt you can do that with Rockbox. You'll probably have to use several filters to EQ down that bass boost with Rockbox.
Anyways, pay attention to the limitations of Rockbox's EQ then use a parametric EQ GUI for PC/linux to generate filters which conform to Rockbox's limitations. This shouldn't be difficult.
Lower Q = greater filter width.
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>>61010281
>>61010422
Room EQ Wizard's EQ GUI uses Q for filter width, so you may wish to use that if you're on Windows. Be sure to set the Equalizer setting (upper right) in the EQ window to "Generic."
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>tfw no Viper DDC for Ety MK5s
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>>61007103
how's the sound signature compared to the hd600/650?
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>>61003059
I want to lick her feet
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>>61010473
It's a cartoon.
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>>61010459
DT880 has more treble and less mids, they're less neutral overall but some might enjoy the bright sound.
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>>61010457
why is that cat angery????
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>>61009941
>>61009963

How do these look:

20 Hz Q 0.5 -12 dB
80 Hz Q 0.5 -14 dB
200 Hz Q 0.5 -12 dB
500 Hz Q 0.5 -7.5 dB
1000 Hz Q 0.5 -5 dB
2000 Hz Q 0.5 -10 dB
2800 Hz Q 1.0 -15 dB
4000 Hz Q 1.0 -13 dB
5200 Hz Q 1.0 -15 dB
10000 Hz Q 1.0 0 dB
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>>61010659
Because no DDC profile exists for Ety MK5s
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>>61010781
make your own you sperg
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>>61010806
I don't know how.
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>>61010750
Nowhere close to matching >>61009963
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>>61010855
>>61010750
Yeah, this doesn't match >>61009963 at all. You don't need to touch 1k through 4k frequencies at all.
I'm terribly sorry, but I brainfarted when I said to ignore the dotted line. What I meant to say is that you should ignore the dotted line below 1k, but construct EQ settings which make the blue/green lines match the dotted line above 1k.
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Someone r8 the Sennheiser 598cs pls
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>>61011060
Memes/10
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>>61011092
Okay
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>>61010750
I'm leaving for the day. Good luck.
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>>61011060
A closed version that is in every way worse than the normal 598. Even if you are looking for closed headphones there are many better options, avoid.
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>>61010498
So?
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>>61011060
Pretty disgusting. Don't buy them.
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>>61011325
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>>61010558
Thanks!
one more question, how do the 880 compare against the 990 and the 250 vs 600ohm versions, i have an O2 amp that should be enough, right?
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Best in-ear earbuds on a $100 budget?
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>>61011557
Etymotic MK5
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>>61011557
10 KZ-ATEs
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>>61011522
Less bass, mids are more present, a bit less treble.
>>61011622
10 pairs of nigga bass
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>>61003059
sauce to artist?
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>>61011588
>>61011622
>>61011633
They don't look better than my current SoundMagic E10s.

Also forgot to ask, are wireless earbuds worth looking into or is the audio loss for convenience just too crappy?
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>>61011745
>ask for advice
>reject advice
kill yourself
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>>61011831
I only said that they don't look better. You have all day to convince me that I'm wrong, don't be a manchild about it.
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>>61011745
Tennmak Pro
Soundmagic E30/E80C

Only wireless earphones I can think are worth it are Jaybird X3's if you're jogging or working out on frequent, regular basis.
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>>61008107
What's the current equivalent since Philips stopped selling the X2 because reasons?
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>>61011915
I'm not going to waste my time when you care more about how IEMs look than how they sound.
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>>61012099
They're refreshing it. I've seen the new revision listed for maybe a day then got taken down. I think the closest 'equivalent' to it would be the K7XX/K712.
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>>61012123
Are you dyslexic?
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>>61012099
>Philips stopped selling the X2 because reasons?
In EU you can't even buy SHP9500 for a reasonable price anymore. Everywhere sold out and where it's available it costs like 150€.
The fuck is Philips thinking..
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>>61012337
>I only said that they don't look better.
>They don't look better than my current SoundMagic E10s.
Or are you going to deny you said this?
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>>61012389
So you are unaware of how basic english works. Dyslexia it is, I'm sorry, there may or may not be meds that can help you eventually.
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>>61012429
retard
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>>61009941
>>61009963
>>61010903

Here's what I've come up with
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>>61011622
ATE or ATES version?
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How are the OnePlus Bullets V2?
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>>61011522
Compared to the DT990, DT880 has less bass and less treble, DT990 is a more V-shaped DT880.

O2 can power them easily.
>>61011557
MK5.
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>mfw MSR7's are really nice
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>>61004792
Fulla 2 as DAC and pre-amp for the speakers, Magni 2U for headphones so I don't need to unplug.
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>>61004216
Does your headphone have a 3.5mm jack? If so, vModa Boompro, comes with a TRRS end and a headphone/microphone splitter. I use it with my laptop and Android phone for calls regularly and haven't had any complaints.
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>>61011060
>>61011174
>>61011390

Good office headphones - sounds good, comfy, cheapish, isolating, doesn't leak. I like them, fite me
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>>61013752
Why do you even need an amp for the X2?
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>>61013947
He already said it in his post: to eliminate the need to constantly unplug the headphones from the Fulla 2 when he wants to use speakers.
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Are HD600s reddit the headphones?
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>>61014060
thank god I have HD650s (which is better btw)
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>>61006758
Sorry, I was only looking at Amazon.de prices since they're cheaper than local most of the time, but not so with HD 600. A local store sells them at a much more reasonable 289€.
But I also read that I'd really want or need an amplifier or dac and/or better cables. I know nothing about any of that aside from the bits I just read, but it sounds a bit inconvenient (I guess I couldn't use them on my laptop?) and not something I considered in my budget. I was actually going to get a Xonar DGX anyway because my onboard audio died recently, but it doesn't seem sufficient for HD 600.
>>61006779
Yeah, I'm thinking I'll get open now.
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>>61014060
No, people who complain about them are. Fuck off back to your akgs or 650's. The 600 is the true patrician headphone. If your headphone isn't god mode with orchestral music then it's absolute shit tier.
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>>61014156
for amazon browsing google:
heidoc amazon global product price check
camelcamelcamel
>But I also read that I'd really want or need an amplifier or dac
you don't need an amp but they will sound better with one
>and/or better cables
typical audiophile bullshit
don't fall for this
>I was actually going to get a Xonar DGX anyway because my onboard audio died recently, but it doesn't seem sufficient for HD 600.
all these gayming soundcards are waste of money
I think something like SMSL M3 will be much better purchase because it has an amp and a dac
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I can't decide on the GR07 Classic and BE. I seem to see BE recommended more and every review basically says it's a slight increase and not overpowering/obnoxious so I'm kind of leaning towards them. help my /hpg/
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>>61013842
I think I'm going to go with the massdrop one, it looks like a subjectively better or worse modmic 4. I would get a boompro but it causes grounding issues if you use an external amp so it's not an option. I guess I'll have to see if I need one of those shitty usb adapters when it comes because lol 3 months shipping. The Sony clip-on mic is another option, it's only $10 on ebay.
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So i was thinking of getting philips shp9500 for home use and m40x for outside use(later on).
>Budget
100$ flexible
>Location
America(on vacation)
>Source
Pc/phone
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Will be using it daily for long hours
>Music
Mostly Kpop, Im@s, LL, persona soundtracks recently.
>Past headphones
Hyperx cloud ll, works fine just sounds like shit for loud music. Same goes for my philips in ears that u get with a phone.
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>>61007391
Enjoy your 10 GB flac while I enjoy my 1 mb mp3 of the same song.
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>>61014442
Just get the BE with the detachable cable
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Reminder that lossless is a meme format, you're wasting space for the parts you'll can't hear.
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>>61014800
>you're wasting space for the parts you'll can't hear.

What did this retard mean by this
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>>61014786
Think I'm gonna do just that and order them now
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>>61003944
So just applying epoxy to the gaps in there? Sweet
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>>61014800
I rip lossless so I can stream or convert for mobile sync and not worry about double compression distortion. It's future proofing.
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What is the difference between 16 bits flac and 24 bits flac? 192 kHz vs 44.1 kHz?
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>>61012621
simplified it a bit to save some battery life

eq enabled: on
eq precut: 20
eq low shelf filter: 20, 7, 20
eq peak filter 1: 130, 2, -100
eq peak filter 2: 1000, 7, 30
eq peak filter 3: 5600, 35, -60
eq peak filter 4: 8000, 30, -50
eq peak filter 5: 0, 0, 0
eq peak filter 6: 0, 0, 0
eq peak filter 7: 0, 0, 0
eq peak filter 8: 0, 0, 0
eq high shelf filter: 10000, 7, 20
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>>61010062
Excellent taste :)
>>61014288
Indeed, damn riffraff.
>>61013752
NIce setup, fulla2+magni2 is awesome. Great monitors. Yet, I'm not sure why you're torturing yourself with these X2, colored AF.
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>>61015043
Just look up bit depth and sampling rate for audio.

That said all you really need as a home listener is 16/44.1.
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>>61015083
X2 just works for me in terms of sound and comfort. I tried the HD 650 for a month and even after stretching the shit out of the metal bands, it gave me a headache. There was some music it had the edge on, but overall I preferred the X2 in the end.
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>>61015063
The filter at 130 Hz should probably be at 75 Hz to more closely match the reference graph at >>61009963 and then you might need like one more filter between 500 Hz and 1000 Hz to smooth out the slope. Those settings are dialing in a boost a little over 1.5 dB so you'll want to set a preamp setting to -2 dB to prevent clipping.
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>>61015511
my pre is set at -2

Why wouldn't I just try to correct the freq response comparison (pic related)? I'm assuming this is the actual freq response compared to the golden ears 'ideal' response
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>>61015559
Using that one as reference will give you negrobass because it's compensated using GE's target curve which is negrobassy. >>61009963 is a raw, uncompensated measurement; flattening the bass using >>61009963 will produce a more neutral sound. You may prefer the negrobassy sound, though. Maybe try both and see which you prefer.
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>>61015428
>there was some music it had the edge on
Sure, but it's still colored like the X2. Why wouldn't you try the neutral HD600? That's one good having as a reference if anything.
>for a month
Odd. Try wearing them naturally next time (and definitely go HD600, not the lesser version). The clamp is, like, non-existent, after a few days of use. I'm afraid the stretching might have fucked something about the fit you're supposed to get.
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>>61015605
I may have to transition to flat, I'll see if I can make a flat curve and store it to change on-the-fly

moving from using no eq on these headphones for several years to the golden ears curve is a pretty big step already, can't believe I didn't do this sooner

Are there any buds you would recommend in the $20-50 that have less microphonics and a better cord? I specifically like the pannys because they don't fall out of my ears like most of the iems that stick out an inch
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>>61015668
Just get an earphone clip and clip it to your collar. This solves microphonics for me.
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>>61015043
none
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>noise cancelling
>wireless
>up to $500
What's the best there is right now?
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>Budget - $30-90
>Location - USA, Michigan if that matters
>Source - PC. Thinking bluetooth though because tired of wires going bad. But if USB recommended I can make do.
>Type - Full-sized
>Don't care if open or closed
>Comfort - Long as it isn't so tight it'll hurt my ears I'll probably be fine.
>Past - Currently using Somic G909. It was good and comfortable but lately has had issues of apparently beeping when in calls, sometimes muting all sound, and so many other odd little issues I don't understand how it could possibly do. I swear I played a game and it started lagging and unplugging and plugging back in the headphones somehow fixed it and I have no clue why. Just want something to work at this point.
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>>61015908
Bose QC35
Sony MDR-1000X
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>>61016149
Open:
SHP9500
HD558 / HD 598
668B + new pads
Closed:
XPT100 / HM5
Status CB-1 / Somic MM185
M40x + new pads

What memes am I missing?
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>>61016275
Oh, MDRV6 / 7506 too
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>>61016275
681/SR850
669/SR950
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I just bought a pair of HD 558s for $80 and I was wondering what kind of dac/amp combo is recommended for under $100? I also have a pair of ATH-M50s and the reason I'm wanting a DAC/AMP is bc my internal audio is shit
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>>61016385
The only one I have is the DAC-X6 and it's pretty good, I use it for PC with USB and optical with PS3/4. No complaints for around 5 months, I got it for console connectivity and certain things that just didn't get loud enough. Doesn't play 24bit every time so it's practically not supported and shouldn't be set as such if you value your ears. Some people think it colors the sound so I don't know, you might be able to do better for more cash.

Apparently it has high gain too but I haven't tried it because I haven't needed it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/5rk667/fxaudio_dac_x6_gain_jumpers/?sort=new
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>>61016385
Schiit Fulla 2
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Is this the future? 2.1 audio wherever you go
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>>61016820
Normies' obsession with bass will never cease to amaze me.
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>>61016820
That looks retarded
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>>61016959
Gotta FEEL the music... rocking your bones.
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>tfw not sure if the 7506 have burned in or if I lost my upper hearing range
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>>61016610
is it good? better than SMSL M3, Origen+, and E10K?
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>>61017471
>Origen+
audiophoolery
>e10k
chink crap, bass boost switched on or not, it fucks the bass.
>smsl m3
terrible qc
>fulla 2
Good do-it-all device. Excellent DAC. Good amp. Not chink.
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>>61017471
>smsl m3
I've heard it has some qc issues, but mine works just fine and I like it.
>Origen+
Mine got a scratchy pot after a while, and the channel imbalance at low volumes is pretty bad. The first one I got had a terrible imbalance issue that I had to send it back for.
>E10K
I don't have it, but I've heard nothing but good things about it.

The Fulla is the best out of all 3, but it's also the most expensive, if the extra cost of it over the e10k isn't that much to you, then I would get it over everything else.
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>>61014060
>best performance short of the er4sr
I guess I'm a redditor because I use one
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>>61017162
Driver burn-in doesn't exist, at least with dynamics. Tyll measured it. The effects attributable to burn-in with dynamic headphones are probably due to changes over time in the earpads.
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What is the best dac/amp combo I can get under 200 bucks? I prefer a more exciting warm sound.
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>>61018137
Forgot to mention this is gonna be for a desktop, not mobile
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>>61018137
Just get Beats if you're not interested in accuracy. They don't need a DAC and amp.
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>>61018137
[obligatory o2/odac or schiit stack rec]
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>>61018137
>I prefer a more exciting warm sound.
dacs/amps are designed to be transparent, or they suck.
I'd suggest the schiit stack at that price point. If you feel like trying shit out, they have the vali 2.
But... my actual recommendation is to save some bucks and just get a Fulla 2. It's way better value for the money than anything else schiit.
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>>61014756
I will, thanks. I'll also enjoy not being poor.
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>>61018137
Fulla 2 and use a fucking equalizer to make your audio more "exciting and warm."
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>>61014060
They're [H]ard|Forum the headphones
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>HD600
>not chinkshit plastic snapping channel imbalanced shitmeme redditphones
Pick one.
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>>61019966
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>>61019996
Prove me wrong.
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>>61019966
Classic case of fox and the grapes.

I'll enjoy my chinkshit plastic snapping channel imbalanced shitmeme redditphones.
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>>61020014
Not an argument. And since you're too poor to afford anything else I guess you'll have to make do ;)
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>>61020038
Your post isn't an argument either, quit trying to sound intelligent, you're just a shitposter.

Give me reason to spend more money on another headphone and I will buy one. I value high fidelity, something which the HD600 excels at.
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>>61020059
>fidelity
audiophool meme, plus you HD600 shills always go on about how you can EQ everything in
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>>61020080
I predict what you'll shitpost with next.

My crystal ball says 'bass distortion'.
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>>61020099
Your crystal ball must be as shitty as your headphones lmao

does it snap too? kek
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>>61020115
>hurr durr your headphones are shit beacause I can't afford them

literally the snapheiser shill
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>>61020129
But that's every HD600 retard who claims they're endgame.
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>>61020136
Are you the retard that thinks that more expensive headphones equate to better sound quality?
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>>61020155
If sound quality is FR, and FR can be EQ'd, then all headphones have the same sound quality. Which means there is literally no reason to buy ugly uncomfortable worse than chink build quality HD600s.
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>>61020177
>ugly
Literally does not matter you turbovirgin autist.
>uncomfortable
The clamp is only 2.5N, that's less than most headphones.
>worse than chink build quality
You think pictures of broken HD600s or HD650s tell anything about their build quality? Look at how well reviewed they are here:

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Open-Back-Professional-Headphone/dp/B00004SY4H

You're just shitposting, why the fuck am I even responding to shit that has been debunked for ages in these threads.
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>>61020225
>clamp is only measure of comfort
Typical measurement worshipping autistic HD600 tard.

>look at DUH AMAZUM REVIEWS
Shills, just like you.

Not an argument. HD600 shills literally have no ground to stand on with all of their strange autistic dogmatic beliefs. If you were logically consistent maybe you wouldn't get BTFO every time.
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>HD600 is the best headphone because of its neutrality
>FR is the only measure of quality and it can be EQ'd so it doesn't matter, comfort and build quality are the only thing that matter
>HD600 is uncomfortable and has death clamp, plus shit sub-chink build quality which makes it snap when you try to fix said death clamp, b-b-but it's still the best guize!
I've never seen such a bundle of contradictory dogmatic beliefs, even among shitlibs and leftists. Dunno what it is about that ugly speckled marble finish that makes people autistic like this.
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>actually engaging the Snapheiser guy
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>>61020258
>Not an argument

hurr durr not an argument

literally the fox and the grapes
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>shilling ugly uncomfortable subchink shitphones
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>>61020356
I don't shill K702s.
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>>61020354
butthurt is a staple of snapheiser shills. Seems you are no different.
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>>61020371
Yeah, you shill something worse. ;)
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>>61020372
>respond negatively to your post
hurr durr snapheiser shill

I can tell you're an upset jelly poorfag from your posting style. Save up some more, you'll own those HD600s soon. I know it's tough being a NEET.
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>>61020387
It's these same shitty non argument butthurt-posts that alerts me to a snapheiser fanboy. They always get so triggered when you point out contradictions in their beliefs system.
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>>61020401
you want hd600s, i can see through you easily, you just can't afford it, so it's shit
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>>61016264
>Sony MDR-1000X

Seconding this
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>>61020155
>more expensive headphones equate to better sound quality

They certainly equate to comfier in my experience.

I tried on the highend AudioQuest headphones - comfy as fuck. Not sure how they sound though, the store had them hooked up to some crappy jazz CD.

Anyone tried these out? Seeing mixed reviews.
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>>61020509
>Seeing mixed reviews.
that explains everything
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Just copped a pair of mdr 1000Xs for $200 and waiting for them to arrive. Anymore have experience with these? Reviews are great online but i want to hear your thoughts
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>>61021002
insanely comfy, treat them with care dont forcibly spread them, touch controls work -most- of the time the directional swipes might miss, but pause play always works for me, love the sound, if im already in a quiet place turning off noise cancellation turns them from nc headphones into actual good sounding cans too
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>>61021040
sweet. sounds like just what i want out of them.

thanks
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>>61016820
>basslet
yea sounds about right
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convince me not to buy er4xr
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>>61021548
They're the most neutral IEMs you can get at that price range, do it fagget.
>>
Grabbed a 2nd hand pair of LCD-2s on the cheap. They were originally purchased in late 2015. They come with the new angled connectors and fazors.

Which revision did I buy /g/?
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>>61021847
rev 2.2, probably.
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>>61021847
LCD2 rev 4.1 (recall)
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>>61014531
>>61016149
HD558
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>>61021862
Are you memeing or is that a legit revision? I've never heard of 4.1 or recalled LCDs,

>>61021860
Do you own a pair yourself friend? I'm thinking of swapping the earpads for the velour ones for comfort and sanitary reasons. Any advice on that?
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>>61021935
Nope, but google tells me the LCD2 revision with fazors is 2.2. The earpads on LCDs are stuck on with double sided tape iirc. So don't expect to be able to take off the earpads without causing at least some damage to the leather. I prefer leather myself, so I'd just leave it to be honest.
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>>61003059

Sony MDR-XB250

Opinions on this?
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>>61022159
Also Opinions on this.

Sony MDR-ZX110A
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>>61022191
Poor treble, poor mids, and emphasized bass
>>
What are some good earbuds for under $25
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>Budget
<300€
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Objective2+ODAC
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
High comfort
>Sound signature
Flat
>Past headphones
beyerdynamic dt 770 and akg 612.


I reall like the akg 612s sound and feeling and i think i might buy the 712s instead now that these broke but do you have any other recomendations?
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What logical reason is there for the O2+ODAC to have the power jack on the front instead of the back?
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>>61022447
Because the autistic faggot who created it designed it as a protable amp. You can buy "desktop version" with the line-in, usb and power connectors at the back.
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>>61022526
Yeah but you have to pay extra just to fix their fuckup.
>>
>>61022561
Blame NwAvGuy.
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>>61022447
It's designed to be ran off of batteries. You'd have to be an absolute madman to buy an O2 nowadays.
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>>61022654
Or you know how to solder. Last I checked you could buy the parts yourself and make it for <$150.
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>>61022621
>Blame NwAvGuy
That autist needs to come back from the dead and finish his work.
>>
>>61022670
Not worth the effort when the end result isn't any good. I've much rather build myself something like a Bottlehead Crack.
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>>61020314
haha oh u
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>>61022740
Why did he quit in the first place?
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So I've got a iPod Classic 160GB(Late 2009/Thin) with a dead clicky HDD, is it worth doing a iFlash/Rockbox upgrade to it or will I not gain any sound quality/features over playing music through my iPhone 6 Plus?
>>
>>61022744
Point to point soldering seems like bit of a hassle to me, since all the amps I've built have been PCB/mostly through hole components. Would still build one though if someone wanted me to build one for them.
>>
>>61012099
k7xx/k712. th-x00 if closed is ok. bassy open headphones are rare. 681evo is cheap, and I heard the new evo is good too, but it's a $40 chink headphone, it's not going to be like the X2. I would say r70x but they have a bad rap according to many people, iirc they're a total veil fest like the 650 but even worse.
>>
>>61008784
that seems to be the only reason to buy it, because in most places a $250 650 you have a to wait 6 months for them to be shipped is not a good deal at all. you should also know massdrop does not have the best or cheapest worldwide shipping, and some countries are just outright cut off, so you will have to use a middle-man which will drive up the cost on top of more for shipping. I would just see if you can find a used one locally, or even better a 600/580.
>>
>>61009762
the 125 is the same thing with a remote/mic in the cable. I'm 99% sure of this having used both.
>>
>>61020509
>Anyone tried these out? Seeing mixed reviews.
they've been measured. they're far from neutral. if that's ok with you, they're reported to be very comfortable. personally I think even if you like colored sound, better to get something a bit more balanced and add the color in eq yourself. getting headphones that already have overboard coloration is just limiting yourself. then again what is overboard is subjective to you.
>>
>>61022191
>>61022159
both terrible
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>>61022919
assassinated by the placebo cartel that runs places like stereophile. not that he is an absolute "objectivist", but he was the most well known anti-placebo guy on head-fi when they were nothing but placebo. he also did tests that outright proved established placebofags with 10k amps wrong.
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>>61022919
Idk.. maybe Schiit shills assasinated him.
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Hey guys im back

what you thinking about zero amp? and ws1100is?
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>>61023323
Or maybe he's decent at audio engineering, but has some issues. A bit like the templeOS guy.
Here's the Schiit take on the story.
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-...
Chapter 12: Schiit Goes Evil?
>Idk.. maybe Schiit shills assasinated him.
kek
>>
>>61003059
R8 the Sennheiser Momentum series. Possible over ear alternatives?
>>
>>61023688
Do you need to use them outside or otherwise throw them around a lot?
That's what momentum are good for. That and nothing else.
If you're looking for headphones to use at home, there's far better options on a momentum budget.
I suggest looking into HD600, HD579, HD599.
>>
I'm looking for IEMs to go with my soon-to-arrive OP5. It includes the OnePlus Bullets V2, but I don't expect them to be excellent.

>roughly 100€ budget, preferrably less than
>Scandinavia
>phone/laptop/maybe PS4?
>i listen to all music, but especially drum&bass, eurobeat, metal and rock i suppose
>i currently own soundmagic e10's, they're great but i feel like they could be better
>>
>>61023721
To use both at home and outside (traveling, school etc)
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>>61023780
>To use both at home and outside (traveling, school etc)
Don't do that. Get separate sets. Get a good one for home. A cheap one for outside, or just earbuds.
Using momentums at home is just sad. There's far more comfortable and better sounding options to enjoy at home.
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>>61021490
It works well though
>>
how do i fix the smsl m3's crackling or cutting out or channel imbalance when i turn the knob?
>>
>>61023968
Replace the volume pot itself. Or you can try cleaning it with contact cleaner.
>>
>>61023688
the worst are beats-tier. the best are heavily warm iirc. as in highs off a steep hill. if that's ok, fine. I still think the best closed portable headphones are the msr7, pm3, or hp50.
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Why are people basically giving these away on ebay?

They're fucking great.
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>>61024105
not that great, also everyone wants the BT versions now.
>>
>>61024138
I have the btmk2 on the way. Paid like 80 euros for it, complete with the box.

I paid not even 300 freedom bucks for these three.
>>
>>61024105
Their niggerbass sucks ass. MDR-1A are cheaper beats.
>>
>>61024185
Youre right, the bass does suck because there isnt enough of it.

It's like a very slightly fuller sounding msr7
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>>61024229
>because there isnt enough of it
Just get the Niggerbeats by Dr. Dindu and enjoy your mudcannons on >>>/fa/
>>
>>61023968
>>61024041
This is why I recommend the fulla 2. It's not like it is expensive.
Trying to be even cheaper is usually counterproductive.
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So I know nothing about headphones at all and I'm looking to get my first genuine pair that aren't the crappy ones that come with your phone.

>$260 (limit)
>Miami, FL
>My phone (Galaxy S7)
>Full-sized
>Closed
>Comfy as possible
>Not sure, but I think I'd like neutral, bright, or v-shaped

Thanks in advance you guys!
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>>61024977
Try these out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/dt880/311742462942
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>>61025029
Holy Christ anon, this is some deal! They look super comfy as well which is a plus. I might actually get these today; it looks too good to pass up.
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>>61025029
>>61025248
Open, he asked for closed.
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>>61020449

>Sony MDR-1000X

beware the easy broken bracket

FYI:
https://community.sony.com/t5/Headphones/Sony-MDR-1000X-left-side-of-bracket-broken-in-10-days/td-p/613977
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>>61023758
>>61023758
>>61023758
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