/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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first fot init freedom

Second for I'm really not looking forward to updating debian servers next week.

>>60942037
I don't think anyone serious would update any machine not even mentioning production servers within a month of release change.

>>60941422
i want to lick stallman's feet

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Wizards assemble !

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Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
With even the documentation licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can heal broken installs.
Can also use flags.

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What the actual fuck?

$ pacman -Qi firefox
Name            : firefox
Version         : 54.0-1
...
Depends On      : gtk3  gtk2  mozilla-common  libxt  startup-notification  mime-types  dbus-glib  alsa-lib  ffmpeg  nss  hunspell  sqlite  ttf-font  libpulse  icu
                  libvpx
Optional Deps   : networkmanager: Location detection via available WiFi networks
                  libnotify: Notification integration [installed]
                  pulseaudio: Audio support
                  speech-dispatcher: Text-to-Speech
...

>Optional Deps
>pulseaudio: Audio support

>>60942223
Sounds like some pretty deep lore.

alias avardakedavra=killall

>>60942314
What exactly confuses you?

>>60942318
kek, I use magic words as aliases too

>>60942314
Old news senpai. Feel free to maintain and update firecucks alsa backend if you don't want pa. News flash, nobody is doing it, hence the pa dependency

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>>60942314

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>>60942314
>networkmanager: Location detection via available WiFi networks

>>60942318
>alias is longer than the aliased
confirmed for retard

>>60942565
>missing the point
confirmed for brainlet

Is there any way to make chromium more compact or is completely locked-the-fuck-down?

Why on earth does every UI element have to be so massive?

>>60942619
>chromium
botnet, remove asap

Is there better linux distro for "casuals" :^), writers, poets and musicans than xubuntu? I don't play games and other shit.

Also
>cool software for writing
>cool software for listening to music
>cool software for recording music

>>60942636
deepin

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>>60942636
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>60942660

hey /fglt/
wanna hear a joke

>>60942708
>rms as "Richard Stallman" on jewgle+
seems legit

>>60942660
Way to chase off potential users with a pedantic wall of text full with niche jargon.

>>60942636
There's really no point in jumping between distros unless you care how the distro is configured/maintained

Can't really recommend anything for the software
For writing you're probably better off with web applications
There's a shitton of different music players to choose from depending on your needs and preferences
Dunno about recording music, you're better off asking somewhere else

>>60942660
>FLOSS
>Free/Libre...
I love how he didn't even want to write the next words.

>>60942314
Why did this happen?
>>60942372
>News flash, nobody is doing it, hence the pa dependency
Why?

>>60942660
>All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

http://www.jide.com/remixos-for-pc
http://www.phoenixos.com/en_US/

The era of GNU is now coming to an end.

>>60942812
>An Android-based personal computer system
jesus christ why

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>>60942710
cd Why did you get a divorce?
bash: cd: too many arguments

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>>60942840
Because we can.

>>60942840
because gnu+linux is a long story of failures? because android is actually usable, ergonomic, well maintained, safe, is part of an existing market, has professional quality apps and not one or two random apps made by amateurs, offer an unified ecosystem between your desktop and your mobile?

>>60942809
This is a stupid question
Because no one was interested in maintaining it

>>60942812
>The era of GNU is now coming to an end.
Says increasingly nervous shill for the 234908233rd time since 1983.

>>60942891
not everyone uses pulse, it'd be like dropping gnu/linux support entirely "Because no one was interested in maintaining it"
it's not an excuse
they are giving up on a large number of the gnu/linux and most of the *bsd userbases

>>60942962
>it's not an excuse
Why do you think that firefox devs are somehow obligated to support the configuration that suits specifically you? It's not like you're paying them or anything

Good explanation for your noob friends about what "Linux" is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA3vmx0GaO8

>>60942982
they're not obligated to do anything
but if they don't care about half the people not using windows or mac, why not drop support for other os's entirely?

>>60943009

Requiring Pulseaudio has nothing to do with Windows builds and it doesn't affect it at all.
I don't know much about BSDs, but I'm pretty sure you can install Pulseaudio on those.

>>60942962
Anon, a large number of faggots use pa.
You're in the minority, shocking I know

>>60942314
>chrome is uncustomizable garbage and a botnet
>midori is insecure and lacks extensions
>qutebrowser is insecure and lacks extensions
>firecucks depends on pulse for sound
what browser do I use now

>>60943009
Well Linux is like less than 1% of users on desktop and even less if you take in account mobile platforms
And Ubuntu, which is probably the majority of Linux installs, ships Pulse by default

Taking in account that majority of desktop Linux users are just bottom feeders, chances that someone out of FF devs or maintainers uses non-pulsaudio install are incredibly slim, so why would any one of them maintain alsa support?

>>60943019
>I'm pretty sure you can install Pulseaudio on those
why would I

>>60942962
Wouldn't Gentoo with a USE flag for no Pulseaudio work in this case?

>>60943058
GNU/Linux*

>>60943045
Install Pulse, it's good software which actually fixes lots of ALSA flaws. I have no idea why people don't want to use pulse tbqh.

>>60943076

To have audio support in programs that require it.

>>60943125
>it's good software which actually fixes lots of ALSA flaws
like?

>>60943077

Are you an idiot? What do you think those flags do? Do you think that adding a flag will automatically make a program maintain and write itself? Now that I said it, this might be true, because there was one guy who thought that if he added a Qt flag to every program, that they would automatically get Qt support instead of GTK.

Hint: it won't if Firefox requires Pulseaudio to work.

>>60942886
Someone took the blue pill. Android is a fucking mess.

>>60943139
only firefox requires it
why would I change my whole sound architecture for the sake of one program

>>60943125
retards are mad because it's made by pottering

>>60943163

Are you also an idiot? If you don't want to, stop using Firefox then.

>>60943163
>change my whole sound architecture
Do you even know what you are talking about?

>oss arrives
>reeee it's new it's shit
>alsa arrives
>reeee it's new it's shit
>pulse arrives
>reeee it's new it's shit

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>pulse audio
top kek. plz remind me why there is less than 1% of all steam users that are actually using gnulinux if your os is so great

Could anyone explain the differences between pulse and alsa?

>>60943222
Well, pulse doesn't replace alsa tho. It sits on top of alsa in order to give more features like per-application volume, better mixing, etc.

>>60943222
pulse is not an equivalent to oss and alsa you dumb fuck
there are alternatives to pulse like jack and I don't see why it's forced down everyones throats as the standard sound server

Unjokingly, all the sound problems I've had in the past few years have been instantly fixed by uninstalling pulseaudio. I suppose when pulseaudio-only firefox makes it to my repos I'll have to choose between no sound in one program that doesn't need sound anyway, and no sound in my system. Gee, what a difficult choice.

>>60943155
Never used Gentoo and I thought they might have been maintaining Pulse-less Firefox since they're maintaining systemd free GNOME.

>>60943245

If you try the Google search engine, you can find 336 000 results for it.

>>60943257
>forced
toplel meme

>>60943243
Different target audiences.

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>>60943269
Stop recommending NSA's data collection system called "Google" in a friendly thread.

>>60943264
>Unjokingly, all the sound problems I've had in the past few years have been instantly fixed by uninstalling pulseaudio.
This.

>>60943271
what do you suggest I do now, use firefox 53 until the end of times?
there are no good browser alternatives

>>60943243
Because popularity has no correlation with quality
>more people eat McDonald's than organic food
>more people listen to Selena Gomez than Vivaldi

>>60943257

If you're being forced, either through blackmail or through direct physical threat, to use certain software, consider going to the police because I'm pretty sure that's a crime.

>>60943271
Maybe you missed the topic of discussion.

>>60943298
see >>60943045

>>60943295

Organic food is a buzzphrase and you've fallen prey to it.

>>60943283
>tfw the nsa uses the smiley with a caret nose

>>60943283

I'm pretty sure that other search engines have a similar amount of results. If not, he can use a Google proxy like Startpage and inform himself by reading one of those 300 000 results.

>>60943295
>unironically replying to spam posted since years on /g/
hownew.ru

>>60943329
Since he asked in this thread, following the rules of logic, he may want answers from /fglt/ instead of searching the web.

>>60943345

Then he's an idiot because:
>searching the internet for such an easily searchable question is significantly faster
>he considers getting and believing information from other idiots who parrot myths and get all of their "knowledge" from g

>>60943362
How do you know that he doesn't actually want to read the freshest memes about said topic?

>>60943314
This smiley got popular after these pictures got released. It's not far fetched to call it "NSA smiley"

>>60942314
well, that's that
qutebrowser+mpv+firejail here I come

>>60943395

*unsubscribe from roleplaying blog*

>>60941422
qt feet

>>60943269
>>60943362
I actually hoped for a short explanation why pulse is supposedly bad, because there is just too much results in search and too much information in those results. I got that pulse is a layer on top of alsa and now that complicated chart makes sense. I read that it's buggy and over-complicated, is it that?

does anyone have some in-depth info why firefox "needs" pulse now?

>>60943504

Got you covered familia:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661

>>60943295
anyone who has the money would avoid macdonalds. linux is free, windows is not.

>>60943525
ty

How do I get Nvidia Control Panel in Linux Mint?

>>60943797

Install the proprietary Nvidia driver.

So my mail directory changed from "Sent" to ".Sent" for some reason. Now I need to copy all mails from one to another.

Kinda like this

"mv /var/mail/**/Sent/cur/* /var/mail/**/.Sent/cur/*"

because the structure would be /var/mail/domain.com/name/Send/cur/file. But how do I do it? So basically loop into every /name/ directory and move the content of Sent to .Sent? The man pages aren't very helpful

>>60943865
And how do I do that?

>>60943938

I recommend using a web search engine of your choice and typing that question in.

>>60943955
I already tried that, and it didn't help.

>>60943927
I'd cd into /var/mail/ and do a for loop, but shell wizards around here will probably tell you to use one of those shell things with curly braces.

>>60943975
Shit man, probably impossible then.

>>60944081
Do you know the name of the package?

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>>60944108
Are you daft or only pretending to be?

>>60944006

But how do I loop 2 directories deep?

>>60944144
Did that, I still don't have the Control Panel.

>>60944283
You don't? You cd to /var/mail/, where your domain directories are, and the names you have to loop over are right there.

Just do something "for i in *" and then "mv $i/Sent $i/.Sent". A list of directories instead of "*" if you don't want to match them all.

Spend a few minutes researching the proper for loop syntax for your shell and doing simple tests, and when you come back someone will have called me a retard for not quoting variables and posted a more thorough and safer example.

How do I dual boot Mint with Windows 10?

Any performance tips for a USB install? I already enabled noatime in fstab. Wondering if disabling journaling would help, the disk is extremely slow in sequential writes (<4mb/s) and even slower in random writes. Its one of those 3$ drives.

>>60944701
Also does installing Preload help?

Why should I use Linux, what's wrong with Windows 10?

>>60944701
I hope you're using f2fs

>>60944787
Just the default ext4

Hi guys! I was wondering if someone around here is using chroot often and if I can get some tips, please. I plan to put a webserver for some stuff but I'ma little paranoid, even if it will only be serving myself. Very thanks.

>>60944918
any reason why you arent using lxc or docker?

>>60944930
Well, the little I researched seemed a little overkill for making an OwnCloud for me. But as I said I'm very new, so I can listen to other options.

>>60944575
Do you already have Windows installed?

Ayy what's a gud distro

>>60944999

arch

>>60945019
Thx senpai, sitting on devuan rite now and it's shit so imma asking

Since Unity is dying I decided to switch all my machines to Ubuntu MATE 16.04. Is KDE a mess? Could I achieve this setup on a KDE? How's the audio/display setup on KDE? Will I see a decrease in battery life if I make the switch?

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>>60945212
Forgot the picture. Is KDE too bloated and how's the global top menu working on KDE?

>>60945065
What is wrong with Devuan? Or are you just not used to SysV?

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>>60945258
1.Couple problems with sound and display
2. Maybe that's the case

>haven't started desktop in a year
>pacman -Syu
>566 packages
Y/n?

>install a linux distro to breathe new life into your old desktop1!
>install arch on q6600 desktop
>libraries getting corrupted, kernel panics
>install win10, get drivers, works
How would one go about doing the same procedure of choosing drivers in Arch? Are drivers what you call "modules"? Why is it so stupid? How can I get a "module" for X motherboard companies SATA driver? Like, nigga, please.

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>>60945452
Y

>>60944930
Anon dead?

>>60945454
Consider installing Xubuntu instead.

How do I mirror displays without being forced to use a 480p resolution?

>>60945469
I'm considering doing exactly that

>>60945480
That shouldn't happen, what distro and kernel are you using?

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>>60945466
It can't wipe out /home/ so I should be good.

>Total Download Size
>2567.55 MiB
wew

>>60945480
Try using extended mode but have them overlap.

Why isn't bittorrent used instead of all these mirrors? Mirrors could be used as webseed, but it must cost a lot of money to have them as primary source.

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>>60945509
Pic related

Which DE is the best replacement for Unity? I loved the global menu and left-side dock.

>GNOME is awful. Big buttons, unnecessary steps for simple interactions. Tablet-like design.

>KDE is bloated(?).

Thinking MATE.

>>60945626

Why are you adding sudo to every shell command? Do you know what sudo does?

>>60945690
Install xfce, best for meh

>>60945706
I just do that without knowing, it's second nature to me.

>>60945690
I saw some video on YouTube that showed how you can tweak KDE to look like Unity and implement its functionality as well. Still bloated though.

>>60945736
I've tried KDE on multiple occasions and it feels so damn bloated and confusing. I'll give it one more try.

I'm sad to see Unity go. I hated it at first but I grew to love the dock and top panel with global menu. I'm p. sure I can find something to replace it tho.

>>60945732

That's idiotic and can only lead to problems. Sudo isn't some magic cure to every problem.

>>60945816
Okay thanks for the advice, anyways how the fuck do I fix the mirrored displays issue?

I have an issues lads
Updated my arch system (566 packages), then rebooted, now X won't start.
>get login screen
>type in username and password
>get the text that usually comes up (the one that ends with (==) Using system config directory "...")
>wait ~20 seconds (with blinking cursor)
>get thrown back to login screen, screen is cleared
>type in username and passwird
>get the same X message
>no blinking cursor, it's static
>if I press the power button it shuts down cleanly and writes the "shutdown log" to the screen properly

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>updated my arch system
>X won't start

>>60946420
hadn't booted it for about a year, was ~6gbs of packages to install

>>60946420
Fuck you faggot! my gentoo build never has issues! Get Rekt! I am the one who summers!

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Contemplating integrating my home server and pc into one machine. Anyone ever fucked with this? Would it be smarter to run multiple VMs for different services or just start and stop X when I want a desktop? Should I mess with containers? Currently I've got a small server running a firewall, network storage, and routing wired and wireless traffic. It only uses like 500 MB RAM and barely needs a single core.

>>60946298
Oh wow, it's the fucking graphics drivers.
>check log
>kernel oops
>"BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ***"
>"IP: KCL_ACPI_GetVfctBios+0x36/0x70 [fglrx]"

Can low disk space fuck up an upgrade?

>>60946552
If it's a system/server just for you that will run on your own machine I see no reason to include layers of additional software that will inevitably result in additional overhead load put on your hardware. Keep it to a minimum mate.

>>60946584
Yep. fglrx got deprecated a while ago and it's not even supported by newest xorg.
Revert to the free radeon driver and it should work.
What GPU do you have anyway?

>>60946664
Yeah so can a shit HDD

>>60946686
270x, does the free driver support that now?
>>60946688
fuck, seems like / got full during the upgrade, it downloaded 6gbs of packages to a 15gb / partition with 7gbs of other stuff

>>60946686
Which driver should I use? AMDGPU or the other one? Do you have a relevant link to the arch wiki?

>>60946753
R9 270x should also have support for the new drivers for GCN-based cards: the free amdgpu and proprietary amdgpu-pro.
More info: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU
The Southern Islands and Sea Islands section applies to you so you'll probably have to blacklist the radeon module if you want to use the new free amdgpu driver.
Also note that recent Archlinux kernels have the support compiled in so you won't have to recompile anything.

I'm kinda new on Linux but I'm loving it. But there's something that is bothering me, how can I expand my "/" partition? I only know how to use Gparted, but it doesn't works for some reason

>>60946935
You need to boot from a live USB, / is currently mounted (in use)

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linux babby here, still keen to learn

what does it mean when people say "compiling software from source"? and why do they do it? is it so they can customize the software itself and then install it so they get a special, personalized version? i saw someone mentioning that they compiled emacs from source in another thread because the repo was out of date. if this is the case, how can you be certain that the old version you compile will be compatible with your (presumably) new version of linux?

>>60946957
I have tried it on both a live CD of Ubuntu and Gparted itself, but for some reason it just don't werks

>>60946931
To expand on this:
Your card is supported by both free drivers - radeon and amdgpu. But the amdgpu driver is better and recent versions have very good OpenGL support that rivals the proprietary amdgpu-pro.
So if you can get it to work that's good for you. If not, the older radeon driver is all right for 2D acceleration.

amdgpu-pro is only officially supported on Ubuntu, RHEL/CentOS, and SLES/SLED. But as always there are unofficial packages on AUR that might work. Or not.
These days, the only point of the proprietary driver is good Vulkan performance since the free driver has equal or slightly better OpenGL performance.

>>60946977
>literally google "compiling software"

>>60947008
thanks obama.

>>60946977
>what does it mean when people say "compiling software from source"?
Taking the source code and making a binary from it instead of using the one provided in the repositories.
>is it so they can customize the software itself and then install it so they get a special, personalized version?
Yes, some features can be selected or deselected before compiling. Some packages where performance are important are compiled for the machine due to subarch compilation. There's lower divisions of x86 and x86_64, code compiled for a specific processor is usually 1-5% faster than the generic code.
>if this is the case, how can you be certain that the old version you compile will be compatible with your (presumably) new version of linux?
The reverse, the software is newer than your version. In theory, you can't, but they wouldn't break compatbility for no good reason.
>>60946998
Isn't southern islands experimental in amdgpu?

>>60947008

well i was just kind of hoping that someone could give a friendly summary on what it is and why people do it... maybe with a personal example of why they chose to compile it from source rather than just get it fro ma report. most stuff i find on google is just technical guides

>>60947054
>literally google "why do people compile software in linux"

>>60947038
>Isn't southern islands experimental in amdgpu?
It is. But it's worth a try since the worst thing that could happen is you wasting a minute blacklisting and un-blacklisting a kernel module (+ installing the new driver package but whatever).

>>60947008
Would you faggot please stop sending people to google? Thanks.

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>>60947065
You can compile software in Linux?

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Sorry about the quality but it's what I've got for now. Why does it show that it doesn't have free space when it does?

>>60947178
No

>>60947283
All i see is blury blue on blurry other blue with no context or anything

>>60947283
literally google "Why does it show that it doesn't have free space when it does"

>>60947223
Yup,i use musl to compile source code

>>60947323
I think it's the "resize" bar of Gayparted

>>60947335
t. tech illiterate

>>60946977
>what does it mean when people say "compiling software from source"?
a software must be written and compiled to have an executable. Compiling software from source mean building the executable by taking the source code
>and why do they do it?
sometimes a software isn't on a repo and you have to manually install it by compiling it from source.
Or maybe you want to remove features or add features from it, install it on a specific location...
> if this is the case, how can you be certain that the old version you compile will be compatible with your (presumably) new version of linux?
I'm not sure I get this one.

>>60947353
I'm free from communist gcc/glibc,and the stallmanites

Feels great friend

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>>60947335
Linux has a module called "musl" which allows you to compile source code in Linux?

>>60947387
musl replaces gcc/glibc as standard compiler
https://www.musl-libc.org/

>>60947387
does anyone have the version of the pic with "gnuuu~"?

>>60947403
musl is a lib, not a compiler, retard

>>60947418
Check again nfriend

>>60947459
llvm/clang is the compiler, stop being retarded

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I'm new. Is this a scheduled maintenance?

>>60947532
fix your font rendering

screenfetch man says it supports tinycore, but there is no screenfetch.tcz available in tinycore. how can i show off that im using tinycore?

I currently have a /home partition. If I install a new distro, do I direct the installer to that partition or is it going to overwrite everything? Or do I just let the installer set up "home" on the OS partition and then later edit fstab?

>>60947551
That image is from win10. Don't know how.

>>60947612
>win10
botnet, remove asap

>>60942636
Look at Ubuntu studio.

>>60947569
Install screenfetch.

Manjaro is the greatest distribution to ever grace the GNU system

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What are some cool terminal commands?

Arch wiki is down
AUR is down

>>60947776
sudo rm -rf /

>>60947834
nobody cares

>>60947841
Since this only works on macOS or busybox, I have nothing against this post.

>>60947776
<Meta-#>
Comment out the current command from the beginning of the line. Faster than <Ctrl-a> then #, then Enter.

>>60947841
Please stop killing a good meme with 9gaggery.

>>60947776

sudo rm -rf ${RESIDUAL_INODES}/*

this clears the inodes :^)

>>60947886
valve pls

Any good tutorial for awk, sed and general regex in bash? I have finished the bash questions in hacker rank but need more exercise with trough explanations accompanied.

>>60947896
http://www.grymoire.com/
Crazy good walkthroughs.

Also look into:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

>>60947776
telnet mapscii.me

>>60947922
got one more http://www.catonmat.net/download/perl1line.txt

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Since "files" that we refer to by name are just hard links to the inode that links to the actual data and rm only unlinks them from the corresponding inode, shouldn't there be an easy way to undo deletion before the data is overwritten?
Let's say I make an alias function for rm to save the inode numbers into some temp file before doing anything.
Would I be able to remake the hard link if I know the inode number, if nothing has changed on the hard drive in the meantime?

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>>60947776
You missed quads by 1.

help fc

>>60948038
photorec automates this

>>60947776

convert https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/images/small-GnashGnu.png -resize 640x480\> -bordercolor black -border 2%x2% -bordercolor white -border 2x2 -bordercolor black -border 10%x10% -extent 100%x95% -background black -gravity south -fill white -pointsize 42 label:"GNU*" -append -pointsize 16 label:"*with Linux added" -append -gravity north -extent 100%x103% show:

>>60948052
But how does it know which file I need?
I still would need to provide it with the inode number or the disk sectors, wouldn't I?
I don't know how things like that work, or what they do, but what I'm suggesting should be really simple.

>>60942223
Fuck off, shill.

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>>60943045
Metanoia

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>>60947776
help :
It just works.

>>60948161
this is my favorite command

>>60947776
recently discovered:
https://github.com/junegunn/fzf

>>60947776
du . --max-depth=1 -h | sort -h

>>60947776
shred
it deletes the file and overwrites it with random bits n times

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>>60948265
my .thunderbird directory is 4.1G

>>60947776
Hacker typer:

locate *.c | shuf -n1 | xargs pv -qL 20

>>60948265
I only have 5 Gigs of porn on my Thinkpad, spread across ~50 files.

>>60948408
It downloads all your emails by default.

>>60947776

wat() {
    # tell what options of a command do
    # example usage: $ wat grep -A
    x="${1:?}"; shift; y=("${@:?}")

    for i in "${y[@]}"; do
        man "${x}" | sed -n "/^\s*${i}/,/^$/p"
    done
}

>>60948831
This one is great, saved it a while ago, using it daily.

>>60948911
Yeah, I only saved it from that anon. Very useful.

>>60947599
I would just do the later desu. Just because telling installers about custom partition layouts is scary to me.

>>60948038
It depends on the filesystem but generally it is theoretically possible but unsupported. ext used to have an undelete binary that was shipped with it but it requires the partition to be unmounted.

>>60947776

echo -e '#!/bin/bash\necho My cksum is 918329835' > magic

>>60949002
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/file_recovery#Extundelete
>To recover data from a specific partition, the device name for the partition, which will be in the format /dev/sdXN (X is a letter and N is a number.), must be known. The example used here is /dev/sda4, but your system might use something different (For example, MMC card readers use /dev/mmcblkNpN as their naming scheme.) depending on your filesystem and device configuration. If you are unsure, run df, which prints currently mounted partitions.
>Once which partition data is to be recovered from has been determined, simply run:

# extundelete /dev/sda4 --restore-file directory/file

>Any subdirectories must be specified, and the command runs from the highest level of the partition, so, to recover a file in /home/SomeUserName/, assuming /home is on its own partition, run:

# extundelete /dev/sda4 --restore-file SomeUserName/SomeFile

>To speed up multi-file recovery, extundelete has a --restore-files option as well.
>To recover an entire directory, run:

# extundelete /dev/sda4 --restore-directory SomeUserName/SomeDirectory

>For advanced users, to manually recover blocks or inodes with extundelete, debugfs can be used to find the inode to be recovered; then, run:

# extundelete --restore-inode inode

>inode stands for any valid inode. Additional inodes to recover can be listed in an unspaced, comma-separated fashion.
>Finally, to recover all deleted files from an entire partition, run:

# extundelete /dev/sda4 --restore-all

This is awesome, thanks.
Don't know why unmount is required though.

I am a Windows 10 babby and I've fucking had it. I want a Linux distro that respects my privacy. Are there any good looking and user friendly distros out there?

>>60949125
Ubuntu, Fedora, Mint,...

>>60949125
Why don't you people read the OP pasta?
>>60941422
>...
>>What distro should I choose?
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
>...

>>60949140
>anon asks for a friendly distro that respects his privacy
>gets recommended distros with lots of nonfree software
why?

>>60949167
Because he should take it one step at a time.
I don't think anyone here started out with Trisqel or Parabola.

>>60949167
stuff like mint isn't optimal but 99% better than full windows botnet
I agree here >>60949188

>>60949140
Does Ubuntu still come bundled with that Amazon spyware? Comes with non-free software regardless, can't guarantee that it respects privacy.

>>60949217
Ubuntu disabled the Amazon thing in newer versions.

>>60949125
Devuan is pretty great, it's just Debian but with SysV as the init instead of SystemD. It is also run and managed by professionals and not SJW hobbyists like Debian.

>>60949110
is this safe?

>>60949229
>implying a beginner even knows what sysvinit or systemd is
anon pls

>>60949238
http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
>The latest version of extundelete is 0.2.4, which was released in January 2013.
I wouldn't bet my life on it.

>>60943146
Sound quality, better handling of multiple outputs, per application volume, and it can run transparently on top of JACK if you need to do production stuff.

>>60949254
But it's in the official Arch repos.
And the Arch wiki article is up to date.

>>60949125
The best beginner distro is Ubuntu. Why? Because it's the only professional one out of the sea of "beginner friendly" distros which sane defaults. The downside is ofc the amazon botnet, but at least it's turned off by default.

>>60949125
Install Manjaro.

>>60949240
My mistake I didn't read his post properly, but you're also correct, I don't expect that at all.

>>60942636
>writing
Write in Markdown or Asciidoc format in a text editor. Keep your writing in version control. Use tools like Pandoc or a2x to generate pretty output.
>listening to music
Clementine is nice for casuals. I prefer mpd and various client programs.
>recording music
Ardour

>>60949263
How does it "fix" sound quality when it uses alsa as an output?

Does anyone know when Devuan is going to move on from Jessie?

>>60949343
when it's done

>>60949263
>he's doing it for free

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>>60947405
This one?

This is great: http://www.brendangregg.com/specials.html

What is the emacs equivalent of hjkl?

Also, is emacs modal like vi/vim?

>>60949433
forward, backward, previous (line), next (line)
take the first letters from each
And press them while holding Control.

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>>60949401
I had no idea this was software driven. Thought turbo buttons were purely hardware.

>>60949453
That's not very convenient.

>>60949469
Makes sense to me, vim heathen.

>>60949469
rms thought otherwise.

>>60949469
no it's not, you'll end up with a broken pinkie

>>60949496
Using emacs is like playing the piano.
Use both Ctrl keys.

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>>60949496
back when I was using Emacs I got used to doing pic related rather quickly

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>>60949469
emacs can emulate this eVIl so why should anyone care?

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>>60949543
neat trick

>>60949527
good idea.

>>60949598
Thanks. I came up with it all on my own.

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>>60947405

>>60949543
wow emacs rly makes ur finger bend over if you catch my drift

Does Gentoo worth? What about OpenRC?

>>60949713
No
Yes

>>60949713
if you have to ask, probably not

>>60949713
Yes. Yes

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>>60949713
If you have processor that have many additional instructions || you want became srsly p0w3r |-|@cer || dont wannaCry, yes , /g/ say yes i dont care

>>60949445
It has modes but they are more like keybind modes, not input method modes. So generally no but you can emulate it with eg evil mode.

What was the easiest distro before ubuntu? (Pre 2004)

>>60949973
debian

>>60949988
Mayyybe, but fedora had rhel user testing feeding into it.

Well great, now vporn removed the option to download videos. Now where am I going to get porn? I don't want to stream, my internet connection is shit.

>>60949973
debian was one of the big first distributions.
other were slackware and i don't remember what. But slackware obviously was never an "easy" distribution.

Actually even after 2004 ubuntu was janky.
In Poland Mandriva was a popular choice for neckbeards at the time.

>>60941422
>Gcc
>Installation depends on:
Bash, Binutils, Coreutils, Diffutils, Findutils, Gawk, GCC, Gettext, Glibc, GMP, Grep, M4, Make, MPC, MPFR, Patch, Perl, Sed, Tar, and Texinfo
>http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/appendices/dependencies.html
what does gcc use sed, perl, gawk for?

Why does arch linux hate framebuffers? Every package it seems is compiled to not support it like the arch linux devs want everyone to use xorg.

I'm looking to get started doing some internet radio, where should I start in terms of streaming?

>>60950683
Because UPSTREAM decided not to enable framebuffer.Arch packages come directly from UPSTREAM,they dont patch them
Ask the developer in charge why

>>60950778
Well in that case I'll just jump to gentoo if I have to enable framebuffers in packages like mpv or sdl2.

>>60950813
BRAVO
BRAVO

No one gives a shit kid

>>60950652
>Perl version 5.6.1 (or later)
>Necessary when targeting Darwin, building ‘libstdc++’, and not using --disable-symvers. Necessary when targeting Solaris 2 with Sun ld and not using --disable-symvers. The bundled perl in Solaris 8 and up works. Necessary when regenerating Makefile dependencies in libiberty. Necessary when regenerating libiberty/functions.texi. Necessary when generating manpages from Texinfo manuals. Used by various scripts to generate some files included in SVN (mainly Unicode-related and rarely changing) from source tables.

>A POSIX or SVR4 awk
>Necessary for creating some of the generated source files for GCC. If in doubt, use a recent GNU awk version, as some of the older ones are broken. GNU awk version 3.1.5 is known to work.

Could not find anything requiring Sed.

>>60950834
Sweetie, you cared enough to reply.

>>60950853
Putting a lil edgy kid in its place is worth the reply.

OH NO ARCH DOSENT DO THE THING CAUSE UPSTEAM DUN DO THE THING
IM GOING TO REVOLT AND GO TO A NEW DISTRO

>>60950869
No sweetie, that's not what edgy means.

>>60950778
lol no.
you dont have to patch framebuffer support, it's a flag on the build system.

I just bought a X250 with a 16gb SSD and a 1Tb HDD. What is the best use for the SSD disk?

I wanted to install / there, but I realized that mathematica alone uses 10 Gb!

What can I do with the SSD disk?

>>60950984
Get rid of it and get a decent sized ssd

>>60950984
have it mount /, /usr and mount /var, /home, /usr/local on the HDD

you can always make more partitions on the HDD and mount e.g. /usr/lib there too if you are running out of space
can be a bit tricky if you don't know what you are doing

How long do you think it'll take for Solus to offer KDE? I'm interested in using it but there's some KDE programs I can't do without namely KDE connect.

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>>60947776
Some OC: Colorized ping using sed.

cping() { ping "$@" | sed 's/from.*$/\x1b[31m&\x1b[m/; s/icmp_req=.*$/\x1b[33m&\x1b[m/; s/ttl=.*$/\x1b[34m&\x1b[m/; s/time=.*$/\x1b[36m&\x1b[m/'; }

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if arch is meant to build your own system from ground up, why does it use systemd?

>>60951229
>Impling there is anything wrong with systemd
>Implying that sysv is worth using

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>>60951267

>>60951229
Because everything you know about Arch is a meme: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

For some reason my alt+spacebar to open the "search" function has stopped working on Kubuntu as has my side bar, which has just poofed away.

how to fix systemd
- build a separate package for every component
- write an alternative to every component
- write dummy packages that provide sysv and openrc compatibility and wrappers for the syscalls

oh wait that's fucking retarded
systemd is not posix

>>60951131
I read about that here
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/Yoga14/jessie

will the 16gb be enough for / and /usr? Checking my system, it seems that I have used like 60 Gb in my system besides /home.

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>>60951550
impoossibru

>>60950834
>>60950869
Archfags sure are quick to anger, it's pretty pathetic.

>>60951591
>failing to understand sarcasm

>>60951615
>I-it was j-j-ust sarcasm
Sure thing kiddo

>>60951556
depends on which packages you use

you should investigate with du which directories need the most space

>>60951629
>Irony fails this one

>>60951638
>Durrr I was just being ironic

what's a good email provider that respects my benis?

>>60951920
cock.il

>>60951920
https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems

>>60951920
you

i'm going back to being a linux user today.

i used to be big on arch and debian sid, but i got sick of kernel updates preventing me from booting my system.

anyways i settled on manjaro with my fingers crossed that i won't have to revert kernel upgrades all the time.

lol at how shit calamares is and lol and there not even being a cli installer available.

i'm ending up having to install to a rando partition, then copy everything over to my luks/lvm volumes.

>>60951972
>using a downstream distro
End your self

>>60951972
>kernel updates preventing me from booting my system
>as if it's a daily occurence
you're either an irredeemable dumbass or the last time you've used gnu/linux was in 2006

>>60951980
>>60952002

friendly thread

New cool terminal commands: >>60952050
New cool terminal commands: >>60952050
New cool terminal commands: >>60952050

>>60951939
kek

>>60949401
Oh, you aren't lying. Those examples are just gold

>>60941422
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ