/mkg/ - ultra-cheap diy edition >Buyer's template:

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>>60914633
First for gay

>>60914674
can confirm. He is super gay.

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>>60914690
I can also confirm this

>Budget
$30 ~ $50
>Location
South East Asia
>Preferred switch type
Brown/Blues (Gaterons if possible)
>Layout
Doesn't matter.
>Form factor
75% 82/84 keys
>Backlight
Preferably yes.
>Previous/current keyboards
Some cheap local keyboard with Gateron Browns.

>>60914875
magicforce or plum has that layout. considering you live in southeast asia prices should be cheaper there. Check.

>>60913793
>if you want soundless blues, just get gateron browns.

Thanks for the tip.

Still my requests stills valid >>60913498

I' don't play video games, just typing and web dev.

>>60915013
Also for less sound get rubber o-rings (the thick ones) to stop the thud of keys bottoming out.

>>60915106
Does that make a blue switches kb usable at night without awaking everyone in the house?

Miami is the most obnoxious keyset.

>>60915262
No, blue switches still have annoying clicky sound.

>>60914633

How long does BestGear take to deliver? are they decent?

>>60915388
Decent buy take awhile to delieve.

So what's the lightest clicky switch I can get? I use Gateron white (35g) but would like clicky switches for a few keys on my next board I build. I see conflicting information about throwing lighter switches into something like a blue (I.e. It losing its click) is blue the lightest I can go, or can I put the spring from a white in and have it still be clicky

>>60915262
Switches have two ways to make sound:]
>smashing into the keyboard when they bottom out
>mechanic sounds in the activation mechanism
Buckling springs, for example, make a loud click when the spring hits the side of the enclosure (and the pad tilts and hits the plate/PCB). Blue switches are made to emulate that, to a certain degree. These are internal mechanism sounds. You can't reduce this sound, at least not without some rather crazy modifications of the switch.

Meanwhile, something like browns or reds only make a sound when they hit the bottom - the mechanism is entirely silent. They are still pretty loud though, provided you bottom out. Adding a rubber ring to dampen the impact makes them much softer. Adding an o-ring to a blue switch will dampen the impact sound, but the mechanism click will still be present - so instead of a "click" and a "thock" happening at nearly the same time for something like a "thick", you'll just get a crisp "click".

>>60915666
Perfectly explained, thanks.

From what I've read blues are better for typing, that's why they were my first choice, but I'm not sure about the noise. I'm at my parent's house and I will use the computer for typing at night on weekends.

I'll take the advice on gateron browns, found this:

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-GATERON-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01E57PUNA

>>60915772
>http://www.gearbest.com/keyboards/pp_591298.html

James donkey gaterons are on sale

>>60915883
I would get it if it didn't look like that.

Not getting a MK until they can make quiet ones.

>>60915985
2012 called. They want their memes back

>>60915985
Silenced red switches. Add 2mm meme-rings.

Or just get a Model F, they're dead-silent, you could use one during a funeral and no-one would bat an eye

poorfag here has anyone heard of this poojeet keyboard called 'tvs gold'? is it good for its price?

>>60916286
just get a james donkey or motospeed ck, they're like $40.

>>60916286
Poorfag keyboard for those who can't afford to pay $40: >>60900762
You can probably find one for $20 from some chink seller, either on ebay or on one of the chink sites

>>60915985
blacks, browns, reds Lubed up?

>>60915985
Matias qc or matias linear

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>>60914633
Hi what is up with these keyboard fonts that make your KB look like toy for kid and why are they so much more expensive?

At first I hated them and praised blank/side print

but the longer I stare at It...It's kinda interesting.

Anyway what are /mkg approved budget keycaps? [world wide shipping included]

>>60916616
Thanks doc
Anything made my gateron or npkc is good if you have a small budget

Browsed through a few keycap sets on memedrop and somehow, when you just browse their respective discussions, they all had either manufacturing or fitting problems, strange haptic or other quality deficits.
Is this a general thing with keycap sets? What to watch out for when I want decent quality and not rape the stems of my switches?


>>60916616
It looks similar to some fonts used on old terminals, I guess that's the reason. Don't like it though.

>>60917338
Avoid anything made by SP. While GMK is overpriced they almost never have any issues

>Budget
$100-300
>Location
Phoenix, Arizona
>Preferred switch type
Best for gaming and typing
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
75%
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
A shit k90

>>60917463
Drevo gramr or Magicforce 82 if you want a white backlight. Noppo choc mini if you want RGB lighting

>>60916440
>>60916454
but these keyboards are using some other switches. tvs gold apparently uses legit cherry blue and costs around $25.

Is anyone ever tried or owned a GH60 from KBDfans? is it worth?

>Budget
100-150 USD
>Loc.
Contiguous USA
>Switches
MX-Browns; anything else good for gayming
>Layout
Nordic/UK ISO w/ Norwegian keycaps
>Form
Tenkeyless or 100%, prefferably the former
>Backlight
Only if unavoidable
>Other
I'd like to avoid gayming brands (Razer, &c.). Prefferably white or cream, but I'll take what I can get.

>>60917603
>uses legit cherry blues
>costs $25
pick one brother

https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-modular-rgb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-barebones
Is this worth it ? Already have gateron greens so only thing I'll need is the keycaps.

>>60918301
>zftvs.com
Both. TVS Gold actually uses real Cherry MX Blues.

>>60915985
Topre>Matias>MX Silent>Gateron Clear
You have a lot of options, are you just poor or something?

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Is this mechanical lads? Friend has one and is willing to give it to me if I pay for shipping.

>>60918915
i have the first version that only has red leds. I guess it's worth it? the trade off to hot swappable switches is that it doesn't feel as rigged/solid. I tried a razor and logitech mech in store and they felt a tad bit more solid. less wiggly. the caps and switches don't fall off or anything. I'm not trying to imply they're loose, just not as firm, side to side.

I like it. if a switch gets noticeable wear, I can rotate it with a less used key. I wish i didn't update the firmware because the windows key is always on now.

>>60919198

Nope. sorry.

>>60919198
It should be, but not in the same way that most in this thread are.

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Its really hard to get good ISO keycaps

>>60914982
Thanks anon, I'm honestly eyeing for that too. I'm also considering from buying Taobao, any recommendations?

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Where do you guys get Topre tenkeyless keyboards? It feels like forever since I´ve been checking elitekeyboards for stock on the white all 55g tenkeyless. Amazon and ebay only have Jp sellers with prices of like $270.

n-th for chink caps with wire stabilizers equals hair loss

Vortex Race 3 worth it fellas?

>>60919771
i know that feel bro. i've managed to cope with the 2u stabs pretty well but the spacebar is a royal pain in the ass

>>60919398
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ENJOYPBT-keycap-132-keys-ANSI-ISO-KEYS-dye-subbed-for-cherry-mx-usb-wried-mechaniacl-keyboard/32813534711.html

they're on the pricier side but they're high quality and pretty sick looking if you're into this aesthetic

>>60919771
(n+1)th for dutasteride

>Budget
150 USD
>Location
USA
>Preferred Switch Type
Gateron Blue
>Layout
ISO
>Form
75%
>Backlight
Doesn't matter
>Other
First keyboard, will be using for writing

>>60920644
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9W13T36059

if you really want ISO and can up the budget: (keycaps and assembly not included)
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/kbd75-keyboard-set

>>60920689
Thanks, the noppoo board covers pretty much everything I need

>Budget
160 USD
>Location
America
>Preferred Switch Type
Cherry Whities or equivalent
>Layout
ISO
>Form
60%/66%/75%
>Backlight
Nope
>Previous/current keyboards
Poker 1, Black Pawn, Model M, and some gaymen shit
>Other
Good keycaps are a huge plus.

>>60920950
Winkeyless

>>60920950
GH60

>>60921148
Do I need diodes, resistors and shit ? It's +40 for those and I don't know what they do.
>>60921272
Don't wanna build it, can't solder for shit and too lazy.

If I'm definitely planning to get a set of nice looking keycaps for any new keyboard I end up purchasing, is there any reason NOT to buy one of the WASD keycap-less boards?

I hear almost nothing about WASD in general, are they so terrible no one even bothers with them, or just unpopular or something?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/AULA-Professional-Gaming-Keyboard-Black-Mechanical-Keyboard-87-Keys-Red-Switch-With-Multimedia-USB-Wired-Laptop/1803726_32626501622.html

>>60921376
I think I just heard the sound of panties dropping for a 300 kilometer radius just as I gazed upon this masterpiece.

>>60921376
holy shit

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serves me right for expecting anything else

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>>60921594
>massdelay

>>60919429
that's what they cost, they are $300-330 here for leopolds

I have been out the MK game for a little over two years now, last colorway I purchased was when I was part of the original Miami Nights group buy.

I am seeing a lot more keyboards with LED lighting built into the case to form an accent around the frame, I remember only a few cases back then did this and they were truly ridiculous in expense and sold out literally immediately.

Are there any keyboards out there now of good quality that do this? Preferably something in Greens, or Purples (I remember hearing those things were the second coming of Christ back when they were still being tested and only a few switches were being given away to hype them up, so it's been awhile.)

>>60922448
MK fission with greens is a readily availble one. The two RK Pro keyboards are also a cheap option if you're on a budget

>>60922516
Thanks for the suggestions but do you know any that are 10 keyless? I prefer those over full-size keyboards by a considerable amount.

>>60922568
Anything from winkeyless, but those are more expensive. The motospeed k87 is another budget option.

>>60922448
>>60922568
input club k-type

kbd75, tx-75, b.mini

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mechanical-keyboard-rs96-pcb-mechanical-keyboard-kit-red-scarf-iii-keyboard/2230037_32677061756.html
https://world.taobao.com/item/528675200270.htm

plenty of others too

http://imgur.com/a/IkWK5

Are there any DIY numpad kits?

>>60922704
Yes. Winkeyless b.pad or a Chinese clone is probably your best bet

So
New Unicomp or used Model M with bolt mod?
Is there any spherical keycaps for the model M? I have a boner for selectric keyboards.

>>60923029
Get a used M and bolt mod it if you can. Spherical caps dont exist yet but someone on deskthority is looking in to it

>>60923062
Thanks.
Are gay men affected by the buckling springs?

>>60922704
If you want something good for $60, there's this:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CNC-Aluminum-Case-For-cospad-xd24-Numpad-PAD-silver-black-green-orange-blue-programmed-tkg-kle/32816170865.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/cospad-Custom-Mechanical-Keyboard-Kit-up-tp-24-keys-Supports-TKG-TOOLS-Underglow-RGB-PCB-20/3034003_32818383873.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/20-cospad-XD24-Stainless-steel-Plate-Mechanical-Keyboard-Plate-support-PAD-GHPAD-Numpad/3034003_32818411784.html

>>60914875
Late response but I think you can get a drevo gramr with browns or blues if you can find it on Ali at the right price I love mine. I'm not sure how to confirm that are gaterons but they are advertised that way.

>>60923419
they are more often kaillth than not and someone said it does skip letters often.Amazon reviews confirm it.

>>60923419
>I'm not sure how to confirm that are gaterons

You could pull off a keycap and look at the branding on the switch.

>>60919198
From all the time I spent looking at IBM keyboards on CL and ebay, I'm almost certain it's a rubber dome. KB-7953

>>60919198
I had that keyboard. Is a common rubber dome.

>>60923460
Easy to do before you buy it online.
GENIUS

>>60923589
>>60923419
>I love mine

Well do you have one you can check or not?

>>60921305
>>60920950
help a brother out

>>60923714
You can buy motospeed keyboard with every switch in existence including cherry,does not mean they all are cherry.

Guy 1 wants to know what switch is in in keyboard A
Guy 2 has keyboard that looks the same with same name so he claims it can be Gateron because his has Gateron,but because Keyboard A does not specifi switch type,it is gamble as they are made with outemu,kailh,cheery,gaterons,wolfsx and maybe some dick sells it with membrane,

Asking again, what's the lightest clicky switch I can get?

>>60923864
you need tranzistors rezistors katiodes diodes aions molecules chromosomes and all that shit.

Without it,it is house fire.

>>60923983
it would be interesting to know if there is a gateron version of drevo gramr at all because it only seems to come with outemu switches

>>60923991
blue modded with a lighter spring

>>60914674
>>60914690
>>60914760
what's wrong with gay? I am gay.

>>60924122
who said that there's anything wrong with it

>>60924110
So for instance, I use Gateron Clear (35g) for most of my keys, I want clicks on some of my modifiers, will I run into any issues transplanting the clear springs into the blue keys? Will I receive any real degradation of the click by using a lighter spring?

>>60924122
You are wrong with it,I do not walk around shouting I M HETEROSEXUAL in manly voice.

You walk around shouting I M FAGGOT in girly voice tho.

But really there is nothing wrong with that keyboard. We are just jealous of how cute kawaii trap weeb narutophile it is.
I regret ordering the black version because black does not go well with such keycap color.

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>>60924122
Nothing, apart from the fact that we damage the moral fabric of society.

*damages*

>>60920435
If only it were programmable and with different key caps.

Just got Leopold FC750R. Why is everyone saying that blacks are heavy?
It's way too light for me. Much lighter than I thought it would be.
Other than that feels very solid.
Would take a bit of time to adjust though.

>>60920435
the nonstandard top row kills it for me

>>60924122
If you are a flamboyant faggot that approves the LGBTBBQ+ bullshit, you are cancer. Otherwise, you are OK.

>>60924710
We are sorry to hear that,if you want we can refund you 10%in coupons but please leave positive review.

Is it possible to swap function and alt key on magicforce 68?

>>60925199
We are sorry to tell you that this feature is not supported.
You could use AHK to script it.
Thank you for your concern and bye.

>>60925347
the function key/layer might be built in to the keyboard and invisible to ahk

>>60925199
>You can used Hasu's Usb to Usb converter to make it fully programmable. However, you cannot bypass the system level FN key on the magicforce. Other than that you can get a fully programmable keyboard.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4nnsc3/help_is_there_a_way_to_make_a_magicforce_68/

>>60925347
>>60925386
>>60925396
Isn't there a dip switch to swap function and windows keys? Couldn't you then change the windows with alt?

>>60924122
Kill yourself.

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I just got a corsair k65 for 50€. how much does it cost to switch the french keys to german/englisch keys? and where can i get them in germany (worldwide shipping).

Did anyone use ttc switches? How good/durable are they?

>>60925795
You can't since you bought a shitty ansi corsair.

>>60925451
good point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSVHWrYG974

mx blue?

bought a fnatic gear rush with cherry mx brown switches just to try out brown switches and then give it back after a week or two
are all brown switches this unsatisfying?
i was told that browns are just like blues but without the audible click
my brother has blue cherry mx swtiches and they're godly
on the other hand these browns are pretty shit

>>60925985
>i was told that browns are just like blues but without the audible click
you got meme'd son

gateron brown is supposed to be bretty gud but if you want blues get blues

gateron brown is less common in physical stores if you want to try them but maybe get a switch tester so you can compare them

>>60926024
>if you want blues get blues
i didnt know what i want and the only switches i tried so far were blues, so i had high expectations of browns

>>60925795
ISO or ANSI layout?

>>60924122
>fucking joke whooshes over newfag
It is a joke implying that the other guys slept with him therefore confirming he indeed preferred men.

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>>60923983
Yeah I had that happen to me, but it was actually better for me. Bought a cheap e-3lue keyboard and when I pulled the caps off it was gaterons, not outemu as advertised.

I ended up trashing it though because the color settings would reset everytime (I turned it off since they were ugly) I turned my comp on and the cable was not detachable.

>>60926060
Cherry browns are blacks with some shit stuffed in them. That is why they are colored brown. They actually take blacks from the factory, but after several days of marinating in feces it turns brown

>Massdrop Realforce
>It is the shitty version where the 35g, 45g, and 55g are mixed within the keyboard
Fucking massdrop. I just want a 45g Topre keyboard for cheap u fucks.

>>60925795
I highly doubt you'll be able to reprogram a Corsair from French AZERTY to QWERTY or QWERTZ, unless you do it the dodgy way with something like auto hot key.

>>60926658
the input language is a windows setting

what do dip switches do? manual is in korean
why do they put korean manual with EN keyboard?

>>60927218
Depends on your keyboard. On mine the control roll over and function key locations. On others they switch caps lock and ctrl

>>60927218
They make you a dip.

>>60927301
What kind of dip?

>>60927344
A dipswhitch.

i just bought my first mechanical keyboard. i currently type with just my index and middle fingers and can achieve around 90wpm. how should i start to learn touch typing? is it better to learn it qwerty or any other supposedly faster formats like colemak and dvorak?

>>60927468
Keybr.com

>>60927218
usually they swap one key with another

they might do other things like disable the windows key

>>60927468
this: >>60927511

and stick with qwerty. the other ones are memes. supposedly there is yet another one that takes into account the flaws of colemak but it's all memes

>>60927644
You mean the malt layout

>>60926060
Browns have the same spring as blues and the same tactile bump so people assume they'll feel the same without the click slider, not realizing that the blue/brown tactile bump is worthless and all the tactility on a blue comes from the click slider rather than the bump.

>>60927670
Probably workman actually

>>60927683
yeah

>>60925884
>>60926084
It is ISO
>>60926658
The input language is a software thing i currently have it mapped to qwertz.

>>60927822
Well you're gonna have a really bad time due to the nonstandard layout corsair uses. You either have shitty keycaps, or high end ones to choose from.

>>60927511
until now i thought 90wpm was pretty decent. but i think everyone here would advise me to learn to touch type. but i guess since i'm used to typing this way it's going to take a while. thank you.
>>60927644
>the other ones are memes
desu this is the first time i'm actually hearing that. others have said that though colemak and dvorak and whatever are faster it's hard to type on other computers if we get used to those.

>>60928503
it's not all about the typing speed. the big difference is in comfort and strain reduction and you'll type more smoothly at a more consistent speed

and there are plenty of criticisms/skepticisms about dvorak and colemak. for example dvorak users would have a tendency to be obsessed about typing speed and be more likely to practice typing a lot. colemak has less up and down movement but still a lot of sideways movement which is much worse than up and down movement.

https://viralintrospection.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/a-different-philosophy-in-designing-keyboard-layouts/#problem

>>60928503
By objective metrics, qwerty is a horrible layout. Things like dvorak and colemak greatly reduce finger travel distance, distribute the workload more evenly between hands and fingers, and make more common combinations generally easier to type.

Beyond that it's all subjective. Hundreds of thousands of people touch-type on qwerty just fine and don't suffer from any finger or wrist problems. Could they type faster on an alternative layout? If they could, would the effort of unlearning all their muscle memory and re-learning it be worth it?

>>60928503
>>60928711
>>60928730
Every layout has its flaws. For instance, Dvorak over-emphasises hand alternation. That may not seem bad, but type out quickly (on qwerty) "alsowk" and then "wefjio" - the second one has three times less hand alternation, but is easily as comfortable to type - if not more - than the first. There's also the fact that Dvorak was created in 1920 or so - meaning that even if all its assumptions were correct and led to an optimal layout, you could probably improve on it using modern tools and simulations.
Meanwhile, Colemak has the aforementioned problem of demonising vertical movement when typing, say, "i" is at least as easy, if not easier, than "h" or "g", from the base hand position.
Personally I spent an autistic amount of time comparing various layouts, and on paper Workman actually looks the best. At least, I like its initial assumptions a whole lot - keep same-hand comfortable chords as frequent as possible, reduce the strain on pinkies, and use a weighted "difficulty" graph for key positions instead of proclaiming "the home row is perfection, everything else is heresy!". However, the author used an ortholinear layout to create it, and while that by no means invalidates using workman on a normal staggered keyboard, it's still more optimised for ortholinear layouts. That said, if you're actually going to go and learn workman, you're probably also at - or past - the level of autism required to get an ortholinear kb.
Another thing is that it's such a niche layout that it's incredibly hard to find testimonies of people actually using it. (Another effect of this is that unlike dvorak or colemak, it doesn't come prepackaged with modern OSes, so when using a different computer you'll need to either install the layout yourself, or use a different one.) This means that it's kinda hard to know whether it's a meme or not.

>>60929033
Also sites like http://patorjk.com/keyboard-layout-analyzer/#/main also seem to show it as underperforming compared to colemak - but again, it's hard to know whether it's because the assumptions as to what makes a good layout used to calculate the metrics on that site are flawed, or whether the layout itself is flawed.

And one more thing to remember: for all these flaws all these layouts have, if you were to analyse qwerty with such scrutiny, you'd find far worse flaws. It's extremely unergonomic. So these types of discussions and comparisons between already excellent layouts may make it seem like they're not that good after all, but that's just because qwerty is so shit that nobody even bothers to talk about it in these comparisons.

>>60928730
>would the effort of unlearning all their muscle memory and re-learning it be worth it?

Don't forget being unable to effectively use standard equipment anymore, such as employer supplied workstations.

>>60929228
If you're using colemak or dvorak, basically every OS comes with them preinstalled. Just change the keymap.

If you're using something like workman then that's definitely a problem. Many people report being relatively comfortable in two (or more!) layouts, but if you have no choice but to use one layout all day at work, and then want to use a different one every evening at home, then that's probably going to be too troublesome.

>Budget
150 USD
>Location (continent at least)
Canada
>Preferred switch type
Blue/Green
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL but a fully-programmable 65-75% or something would be fine too
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
1391401 Model M from 1983 that got stolen :(
I'm looking to replicate the feel as much as possible without buying another Model M or a Unicomp.
>Special
Where do you guys get good-looking keycaps for reasonable prices? I'm looking for something vintage-looking and two-tone, PBT, without costing a fortune. I liked the originative set with japanese and latin legends but it's gone now.
Fully-programmable would also be a huge plus

Thanks

>>60929284
TADA68 is a fully programmable 65% keyboard. The only difference between the two versions is that one has a metal case, while the other is plastic

>>60929309
Do they still make these? It seems like their website has a new keyboard called SABER. Also fully programmable 68 key. Is it the same thing?

Should I be worried about gateron vs cherry?
Coming from a model M I don't want something cheap feeling.

>>60929284
Cherry switches feel nothing like Buckling springs
>. I liked the originative set with japanese and latin legends but it's gone now.
That was made by gateron, who also make an enjoypbt set with the same colors for 80 bucks on aliexpress. I know the TADA 68 has the same EnjoyPBT keycaps as that originative one that come stock on the keyboard. If you want nice keycaps look at KBDFans or massdrop

>>60929375
The saber is just a rebranded tada after candykeys and aliexpress started selling them. They are identical in build quality and features. The originative one is just more expensive and has more switch options

>>60929407
Looks like originative is selling saber cases, so I guess it's an official rebrand.
>>60929380
They don't necessarily have to feel like buckling springs, I just want them to give the same impression of quality and tactility and the same "quality" feeling that reassures you that they will easily last 30 years

>>60929407
Why would they rename when some random shop starts selling them?

Where can I get a TADA68 for the cheapest ? Is taobao price + agent + shipping cheaper than ali price ? Also please recommend other 60-65% keyboards with cherry/gateron greens.

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>>60919429
I'd smack her ass with my 5KG Model F

>>60930238
I'd let you smack my ass with that

>>60930236
With the overhead of the agent+shipping, you're probably just as well off ordering from KBDFans' shopify site, which includes shipping in their prices:

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keyboard/products/tada68-mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils

>>60930236
>>60931254
It really depends on how much a tada weighs, but a tada in taobao cost 399.00 yuan or around 60 usd. Then shipping is around 30-40 from the us so it won't really be that much cheaper.

>>60931254
I ordered mine from there 4 days ago, and they said they'd send a confirmation email when it gets dispatched but I still haven't gotten anything. Is this normal?

I'm not in a hurry but I just wanna make sure I'll actually receive the board I paid for.

>>60931392
Depends on the shipping, but with DHL it took one week

>>60931419
Oh never mind I'm a nigger, they actually sent it off the next day after I placed my order. Good on them.

Expecting it around Tuesday then. I have to say I'm rather excited, as it's my first mech.

>>60917423
GMK are all ABS though unfortunately

Got my Ducky One with red switches in today, which is a nice surprise since free shipping said it would take till next week.

So far I have a Unicomp, Topre Type Heaven, Corsair K70 with MX Speed, and now the Ducky One, rounding out my collection in terms of feels.

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>>60932003
It's honestly hard to resist something with this colorway though.

What's that style called, where the keys don't sink into the case but rather float above it, kinda like the magicforce?

>>60914633
I need an ergonomic keyboard for work or else my wrists and fingers get extremely stiff and feel a dull pain. Are there any ergonomic ones that aren't the "cut the keyboard in half" look? That doesn't help with my posture

>>60932307
>The
floating keycaps sometimes OEM and sometimes extra high

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Daskeyboard?

>>60932683
Maltron.

>>60932858
more like DasAShitKeyboard

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>>60932916
keyboard?

>>60932683
Get an ortholinear one. olkb makes a couple. TypeMatrix is another decent one, and has a great layout, but it's membrane.

Ergodox and keyboard.io are both split, but not in the "cut the keyboard in half" way. Not sure if that helps or not. Either way they also have a carefully designed layout and I guess you could just place the two halves next to each other if you want. Or you can go full meme and build a Dactyl (curved ergodox variant).

>>60932858
Didn't they switch to Kailh and hope no one would notice? For a "premium" keyboard, that was a shit move.

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>>60932985
It was greetech, and the old Das 4 still uses cherry switches. Its the TKL, Pro for Mac, and Gaymer keyboards that use greetech. For some reason they all have pad printed keycaps.

>>60932232
Oh it's easy, really.

>>60932003
Well, what else then?

>>60915388
For me it three weeks on average
>>60915428
This.
Although they do not update their inventory as much, so if you have 3 of the 4 items shipped on an order, chances are the 4th on is out of stock even though the website says otherwise.

>>60932307
>where the keys float

It's literally called floating design

>>60923419
>>60923455
>>60923460
I've been looking at that board for sometime now and can confirm that some reviewers experience skipping.

I'm actually tempted to buy from Taobao boards like Kananic or just do a diy kit but I have no idea how to start.

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Somehow, this layout never occurred to me. Fuck me, that makes a lot of sense.

>>60934880
Finally someone took the RS78 and removed the gap

>>60934880
It does actually but wouldn't it be almost as long as a a tkl?

Looking for Keycaps

>Budget
50€
>Location
Germany
>Layout
ISO - qwertz
>Backlight
none

German layout would be nice, but its hard to get. so i would alos take US/UK layout, cuz it is not so different

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>>60934951
Yeah the RS78 is the almost the same width as a ducky one tkl. Its only 1/8" thinner

>>60934961
Any of the cherry G80 boards. The cheapest ones come with mx blacks for around €40

>>60934880
No it doesn't. But putting the numbers there might be convenient

>>60935014
looking for caps not for board

>>60935222
Nice trips, but the classic g80s have doubleshot ABS keycaps that even give PBT a run for their money. That's why people still buy them, not for the keyboard but for the keycaps. They usually sell them on ebay, but its better to find an old keyboard and harvest the keycaps from it. Also no one sell brand new german keycaps for that low of a price.

>>60934951
Sure, but it's longer on the "other" side, so IMO it's still fine ergonomic-wise.

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Can I program the KBD75 for this layout or would I need a different PCB?

>>60932232

What GMK is this and what board is this?

>>60929956
they don't want to be associated with chinkshit even though the keyboard they're selling is made in china

>>60933403
dye sub or double shot thick pbt

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>>60934880
that's basically what i wanted in the first place. it's not like left hand side keys are a new idea just that most of these hipster keyboard designers lack imagination

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>>60936240
what's the point when all the good layouts were made 30 years ago

>>60935807
i'm not completely sure but i don't think the plate and pcb supports that bottom row configuration

>>60936587
So I'd need to make my own pcb and plate? I already was assuming that would be the case, but I wanted to get some confirmation

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>>60936252
Is this modded or did it come like that? If it came like that what model number is that?

>>60936165
Nautilus, and the keyboard is a render, but the Kira 96 is coming soonish.

https://zambumon.github.io/projects/nautilus.html

Nautilus for sure is coming July, and the Kira 96 in August, maybe; both on Assdrop.

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Are SA profile keys actually comfortable, or is that just some kind of new-age meme? There's a set of SA carbons up on massdrop right now I'm considering but I've never used anything but OEM profile, and I don't want to drop that amount on keys I'll hate actually using.

Pic unrelated that's a set of chink PBT carbons from ebay that I might get also. They're OEM but the lettering is off on the legends, and the price is suspicious.

>>60937164
SA profile isn't that great it's just a way for hipsters to feel smug about their keyboard because it's less common/less popular

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with SA profile the keyboard should probably be completely level, not inclined

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this is just insane

don't use the keyboard feet like this, not even with cherry/OEM profiel

>>60937164
i suspect link related is higher quality but the aesthetics are different

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Big-Carbon-108-125-Key-PBT-Cherry-Original-Height-Keycap-White-Dye-Sublimated-Japanese-version-Keycap/32815773322.html

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reminder that SA profile on cherry mx stems is doing it wrong

>>60937352
you're probably right about the quality, but those big centered letters (and specifically whatever font they're in) are a really appealing part of the set for me, and this loses them

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>>60937164
>>60937352
The thing that triggers me the most about these chink sets is the slightly off center legends. Hopefully they get better with time, but from the early reviews I'm gonna pass

What's the hands-down best 60% kb for $150, pok3r? Taking recommendations, good not a must but a plus.

>>60937657
good keycaps*

>>60914633
I have that exact same mouse and mousepad...

>>60937699
good for you fucking loser

hey everyone

im interested in buying a tenkeyless mechanical keyboard that's both good for gaming and typing that is not clicky at all but still tactile. are there any good brands out there that makes this specific type keyboard that im looking for?

>>60937657
If you're willing to go to 65%, there's the Tada68.

Most places sell them for $100, but there are some places that sell near $70.

>>60937715
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=2&size=Tenkeyless&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

There's also Kailh, Gateron, and Greentech Browns if you want to go cheaper, or Topres if you want to go the opposite direction.

>>60937617
which set is that with the grey numrow keys?

>>60937657
yeah, been using my pok3r as my primary keyboard. nothing but quality all around.

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best keycaps to buy for a black pok3r?

https://geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=86537.0

this is fkn sick. i'm not feeling the camo but think of what you could do with this and the sample keys are pretty cool

>>60937715
There are matias quiet click which have preinstalled dampeners but good luck on getting custom keycaps for it

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Its been over a week since i spilled water on my quickfire rapid-i and it srill doesn't work properly
How much longer do i have to let it dry?
I don't want to take it apart because that would void the warranty

>>60937715
look for one with gateron brown switches, cherry mx brown isn't as taxtile

>>60937715
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum87-gateron-mx-brown-blue-mechanical-keyboard-RGB-backlit-TKL-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-87-tenkeyless/32598358025.html

the black one with gateron browns

Is a James Donkey 619-104 with Brown Gateron switches for 60€ a good deal?

This would be my very first mechanical keyboard, is this a good keyboard at all?

>>60939537
As far as chinkboard go, you could do worse. It's fucking hideous though.

What mouse do you guys like? Really should make this like a mouse and keyboard general imo

>>60939569

To be honest, I rarely even look at my keyboard, and I don't find it too ugly (just a matter of personal taste).

What about the switches? Options are black, brown and red.

>>60939591
>What about the switches? Options are black, brown and red.
They're supposedly better than Cherry, in that they're smoother out of the box (Cherry you have to apply lube). The Gat Browns are even more tactile.

That said, for a beginner keyboard I would start with Browns. Red and Black are more niche.

>>60939650

Ok, thank you very much for your help

>>60939585
I ended with the Roccat Kone EMP after trying out around 20 other mice on the market. The Kone Pure Owl Eye's good too, but it's slighty too small for me to comfortably palm grip.

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>>60939585
Comfy mouse for palm grip.

>>60936168
alixpress is just a marketplace, peple will resell their latest keyboard there as well at some point?
and candykeys doesn't look like chinkshit, has all the meme brands.

>>60939231
>a week
Hate to break it to you, but if it dried for a week and still isnt working, its bricked for well

>>60932139
Post picx bebbi

>>60940218
It technically works but there are three pairs of keys that are activating simultaneously, meaning when you press one the other in the pair lights up
Are you saying water could cause permanent damage like that? I'm not a hardware guy but I find that hard to believe.

>>60940159
originative co is the designer (supposedly at least), so they're understandably upset that the chinese "stole" it, and a new name implies that it's an improved/better version

I want to buy the tada but I'm reading a lot of cases where the board is getting bricked by the plague USB mass storage boot loader. The board becomes basically dead and you have to order some hardware to fix it and program it's bootloader again

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>>60940314
someone pls respond

I need help picking a keyboard, /mkg/.

I'd prefer mechanical, but my preference over that right now is wireless. I also just got an MX Master 2S and I'm loving it, so a keyboard that matches that would be amazing (more of a graphite than a solid black).

Right now I'm looking at the Filco Minila Air and the Drevo Calibur, both bluetooth, but I'd like to know all of my options.

>Budget
~$100-$200
>Location
North America/US
>Preferred switch type
Blue
>Form factor
~60% with arrow keys or TKL
>Previous/current keyboards
Currently using a cheap Dell USB keyboard. Previously I've used such garbage as the Razer Blackwidow Tournament (TKL) and Logitech G410 (also TKL). The Razer green switches were okay but the Romer-G switches were absolute garbage and both fell apart rather quickly.

>>60940609
Also forgot to mention the Anne Pro, which I am also considering. Whatever it is, it needs to last until I can get a Tex Yoda (so probably forever because that will never happen).

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Is it worth buying a custom keyboard from wasd for $150?
I'm willing to spend, but are there any cheaper alternatives?

Has anyone here done a Topre dome swap before?

I'm currently using a Plum 84 with 35g domes and I'm thinking of swapping to 45g or 55g domes.

>>60941389
wasd is overpriced, you can have three james donkeys for price of one on wasd.

YOu better off vvisitin taobao with agent

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Side print, top print, or blank keycaps?

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What's the matter boys? Can't handle typing like a man? Just flip your spacebar for a whopping 0.00 US dollars and get those wrists workin!!!1

>>60941389
If you want that color scheme just get a Ducky One

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Some people have weird tastes in porn.
Others, in keyboard layouts.

>>60941513
That picture gave me RSI

>>60940454
I have a TADA.
Are you talking about that thing with macOS where the OS creates a bunch of invisible files which trips up the kb's firmware?
No it isn't bricked. Yes you can fix it with no problem.

>>60941541
Flip your spacebar and the RSI goes away automatically! It's like magic!!!!!

>>60941445
>>60941521
I want the keyboard to be blank.
And that color scheme is pretty nice.

>>60941536
>this is weird
This is basically a bastardised tenkeyless. 78%?

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>>60940314
Fuck,
it's only getting worse overtime, now it's 4 pairs
and I'm pretty sure it's started on 2
Is it kill?

>>60941904
I'm probably talking out of my ass but maybe something's rusted? You could try opening it up and checking how the PCB and contacts look. Honestly I have no idea.

My personal experience is limited to havingpoured (not spilled) juice on laptop keyboard like a retard, wiped it because "eh it'll work", continued using it, and hasn't had any problems except a few keys being somewhat sticky and squeaky for a week or so

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>>60941513
e r g o n o m i c

>>60941972
I would open it but I don't want to void the warranty
It's been over a week and don't think that I had used it for more than one minute combined since then
and it was only clean water ffs
could that really do so much damage?
I'm pretty sure there are people who bathed thier keyboard in water before with no problems

On the other hand, I spilled water on my laptop keyboard before and ended up having to replace the motherboard.
Maybe I just have bad luck

>>60941389
fuck's sake, even for $150 all you get is a mediocre piece of shit with shitty abs keycaps

and don't get a fullsize board

your color scheme isn't even all that special you can get similar color thick pbt blanks for cheap

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-translucidus-keyboarded-resin-keyboarded-personality-keyc-for-aps/32679207765.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gray-Beige-Mixed-YMDK-Cherry-Profile-ANSI-104-Dye-Sub-Thick-PBT-Smooth-Feeling-Keycap-For/32813072835.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-hc-keyboarded-translucidus-keyboarded-resin-keyboarded-personality-keyc-for-aps/32679203800.html

>>60941611
Then get blank gateron PBT keycaps. wasd sells barebones keyboards so buy one of those

>>60942109
That picture gave me RSI again

>>60942198
Then why not warranty it?

>>60942198
You already voided the warranty when you spilled the water, most of the time it's pretty clear when somebody had a spill. Also if it's just a sticker for the warranty, you could try to pry it off whole with a sharp flat knife.
Just open it up and clean what you can with isopropylalcohol.

>>60940314
might just need to dry, doesn't sound like you fried the controller, do like >>60942430 said and forget about your warranty, not worth sending it in and having them reject it because of water damage

>people shill mechanical keyboards for m-muh build quality
>spill a little water on it and it breaks and voids the warranty
>meanwhile my thinkpad keyboard can take a glass of water and still function fine

What was that about build quality again?

>>60942430
>You already voided the warranty when you spilled the water, most of the time it's pretty clear when somebody had a spill
I'm not sure about that
It certainly wasn't the case with my laptop

>>60942109
why would you ever put your wrists down on the desk?

>>60942521
try not being a retard

>>60942555
Try not buying a meme.

>>60942570
>Try not buying a meme.
>says the guy with a thinkpad

>>60942583
My thinkpad cost less than some of these fucking keyboards do.

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Day 2 of Leopold MX Blacks.

Good thing I didn't get blues or browns. The smoothness is great. I'm not feeling 60g though, i'd need 100-150g switches not to bottom it out as hard as I do now.
Almost there for "silent" typing a bit tricky with linear switch, at least it doesn't rattle like my cheap membrane.
Smooth, and I love the sound.

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>>60942594
it cost a lot more when it was new and it probably has shit specs compared to a recent pc

if you can appreciate the quality of a thinkpad then then you should be able to see how people can appreciate a decent mechanical keyboard compared to other desktop pc keyboards

>>60942650
>flipped thumbkeys
uh oh... someone call the police

the autism police

>>60942650
where can I get this?

>>60942541
you mean you couldn't see the damage or that they just warrantied it without questioning? I'd say the last one isn't that strange, it's probably pretty costly to determine the cause of the damage and most of the times it's cheaper for companies to just replace parts

>>60942717
You can't

>>60942731
don't know about the first one because I didn't open it, but I haven't told them about the water spill and they did not ask either

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>>60942717
it was an official rebrand of tex yoda but it was limited/discontinued

yoda 2 should become available for preorders soon

>Wu didn’t have a set price in mind for the Yoda II--we assume it will be more than $200--but expect preorders to go live at the end of June. Delivery is slated for August.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/tex-yoda-ii-mechanical-keyboard-trackpoint,34645.html

>>60942545
To show that you don't need to flip the spacebar, even in that posture.

How do I figure out what kind of keycaps I'd like? There are so many options, and no real way to test them unless you'd feel fine with buying all of them which would be too expensive.

>>60943187
almost everyone likes cherry profile

practically all mechanical keyboards come with cherry or oem (taller cherry) profile by default

just get cherry profile

>>60943223
and they should be thick pbt

>>60942838
This is my dream keyboard and I'll never have one because I'm poor.

>>60943144
it's a strawman argument because no one should be typing with that posture. flipping the spacebar works better if you have your thumb in a neutral position as opposed to curling it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKEeVcvap4

>>60943223
>>60943240
Okay, I'll just go for that then probably. Thanks.

>>60943297
>fag keycaps
>reddit spacebar
this person is a living meme

>>60943402
what's worse is that he still types with a bad posture negating the benefits of a flipped space bar

>>60943481
it's still one of the better typing videos on youtube. apparently hitting the spacebar with your index finger is a thing

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>>60943519
don't remind me

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t-rex arms with hover elbows, forearms parallel to desk => normal spacebar preferred

elbows at desk surface level, forearms at a slight incline => flipped spacebar possibly preferred

the problem is that the spacebar should probably have a flat profile

with cherry/oem profile you have two shitty options and you just have to choose which is less shit

interestingly, approximately 50% of the reddit mechanical keyboard community prefers flipping their cherry/oem profile spacebar. it's a higher percentage than i would have expected if flipping the spacebar had no merit besides memes, since it deviates from the default configuration and it's a relatively new phenomenon.

>>60942304
>>60942199
okay, would these $40 gateron pbt keycaps
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1660
and this $100 wasd board
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-v2-104-key-barebones-mechanical-keyboard-943.html
be a good choice?
>don't get a fullsize board
what's wrong with a fullsize board?

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Ordered one of this chink shit just a couple hours ago. Was having an hard time finding a brown switches, blue backlight, 80% keyboard that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, so I just said fuck it and got an rgb one - I'll just set a solid backlight on it. Also curious if I'll get Cherry or Gateron switches on this, as apparently it can sport either brand on manufacturing, hopefully not mismatching them on the same board. Oh well, in a few weeks I guess I'll see how worth this is of 70€.

>calle calle

>>60943923
https://warosu.org/g/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=fullsize+fags+btfo

>>60943923
these are also gateron if you want more colors to choose from

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-translucidus-keyboarded-resin-keyboarded-personality-keyc-for-aps/32679207765.html

>>60944048
nice, thanks

>Budget
$80-120
>Location
Murica
>Switch type
Cherry Blues/Browns
>Layout
Doesn't matter
>Form Factor
100%

>>60944872
Ducky One

are there seriously people that will spend upwards of 20 dollars on a single keycap?

why?

>>60944952
Cause its expensive if you make it yourself. A good silicone mold will set you back a several hundred bucks, and depending on the complexity maybe even $1000. Its much better to buy a keycap for 20 bucks then to make one yourself.

>>60943923
Not him, but I use my keyboard without looking and wish I had TK one because arm travel is a real bother compared to using my lappy.

>>60945210
but why is there a desire for these "artisan" keycaps

if the price is necessarily so high what drives you to buy them at all

>>60945372
if $20 is expensive to you why are you posting in /mkg/ instead of begging in the street

>>60943532
hey I too do that : (

>>60937715
KBP v80 with matias quiet click (not actually clicky).

>>60945372
to get upvotes on reddit

Just gone from a Keyboard which had really mushy feeling keys to a Logitech G810. Why the hell didn't I do this sooner? This board feels amazing.

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>>60943519
>apparently hitting the spacebar with your index finger is a thing
I do that too, I never once in my life had a look at how to properly type, I just naturally progressed to touch typing and for some reason this is the way I learned. I'm not interested in changing, I manage a decent enough 80WPM, that's fine for me and for what I do.

>>60914633
Are o-rings a meme?

>>60939231
Throw it into uncooked rice and let it sit there for a week.

What's the cheapest kb I can get with cherry whites?

>>60945372
>price is necessarily so high
It must suck to be poor like you. I think I'll buy those clack factory knockoffs for 10 bucks just to meme for you!

>>60946512
$1000+ on a set of keycaps IS unreasonably expensive. Unless you're actually a richfag (meaning above middle class, not just "not a poorfag"), which isn't a lot of people.

$10 or $20 on a novelty cap to put on some random key you want to decorate is quite reasonable, provided you actually want to decorate it. The anon you're calling a poorfag probably doesn't see the point of sticking ugly unergonomic keys that don't match the rest of his keyboard, so to him such a purchase seems like throwing away the $20, which justifiably makes him wonder why anyone would do that.

>>60945442
>>60946512
but they don't do anything

i feel comfortable spending 200 dollars on a really nice keyboard but why keycaps

I'm talking specifically about "artisans" not legitimately high quality cap sets

>>60946778
To add some meme points to your keyboard. Its the same reason why people buy those shitty GMK sets.

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>>60914633
I'm on my journey to find best looking chink cable for my keyboard. Pic related are some that I found from 1 to 3$ ,shortest is black coiled [6] with right turn [only 1m maximum]
rest is 1.5m and more

Pick your mini usb winner guys.
If you want link for any let me know.

>>60946913
If you say you want the best looking chink cable, I take that as the cheapest looking one. So I'd say 5.

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>>60946949
Do not play mind games with me,i get that most cables come from china. I've considered to coil 4 or 5 to make it look like pic related

>>60947041
I must say it looks much better coiled than straight. idk, I only get those cables with the cheapest shit I buy from china so maybe that's why associate them with cheapness.

>>60947084
At first I wanted cute braided+coiled ones like I seen there once with big circles in creme/pinkish colors. But I can not really find it and my guess is they are pretty expensive too.

Dude complained about them tho and said he bought straight ones afterwards.Someone might remember.

>>60947139
Yeah I remember about the guy saying they have to be very carefully kept coiled, otherwise they'd become a nightmare.

I can't remember if it was one very particular brand he was complaining about, though. Maybe these ones coil better?

>>60946913
link for 3 and 6 pls

>>60914690
being gay is gay

>>60947583
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3ft-Flexible-Spending-Turn-Right-Universal-USB-Mini-USB-Charging-Cable-Charging-Cable-Electronic-Gadgets/32312726457.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10ft-3M-Spring-Coiled-USB-2-0-Male-to-Mini-USB-5-Pin-Data-Sync-Charger/32550966966.html

Coiling cables is simple tho
you need 1.stick 2.hair dryer and drill

take cable,make circles around stick,make it hot,then take it off the stick ,put one side in drill,hold the other and reverse the coiling

last step is optional,but makes the coiling but higher quality .

How are wireless mech keyboards nowadays? I bought a Filco Majestouch a year or two ago, and while I love it, I hate having to deal with bluetooth disconnecting and reconnecting. Are there any wireless options out there that use 2.4/5ghz USB a la Logitech wireless?

>>60947824
wireless keyboards are even worse than wireless mouses.
If you wait 1-2 more years it will be good to go.
1.Delay issues
2.Connection issue
3.Battery issues
not worth it yet.

Cherry whites or matias clicky?

>>60947943
White master race.