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In the face of recent changes in Firefox, some anons were asking for a /g/'s perfect web browser, we have collected here the most wanted features:

Granular control over incomming traffic like Policeman (more control than uMatrix in this particular subject).
Granular control over outgoing traffic like Tamper Data or like Privacy Settings (the addon).
Easy switch to preset profiles for both like uBlock Origin for incomming traffic and Privacy Settings for outgoing traffic.
Random presets generator for things like "user-agent" and "canvas fingerprint".
Custom stylesheets like Stylish.
Userscript support like Greasemonkey.
Cookie management like Cookie Monster.
HTTPS with HTTP fallback and ports management like Smart HTTPS and HTTPS by default.
Proxy management like FoxyProxy.
"Open with" feature to use an external application, like for using a video player with youtube-dl and MPV, or for text input with a text editor, and for other protocols like ftp and gopher, and even as a file picker.
Local cache like Decentraleyes and Load from Cache.
All this in a per site basis.
URL Deobfuscation like "Google search link fix" and "Pure URL".
URI leak prevention like "No Resource URI Leak" and plugin enumeration prevention by returning "undefined".
Keyboard driven with dwb features like vi-like shortcuts, keyboard hints, quickmarks, custom commands and non-bloated smooth UI.
Configuration options from an integrated command-line or in configuration files like Lynx.
A way to import bookmarks from other browsers like Firefox.
Search customization like surfraw, dwb funtions or InstantFox Quick Search, and reverse image search like Google Reverse Image Search.
Writen in C.
Low on dependencies.
Framebuffer support like NetSurf for working in the virtual terminal (TTY).
Actual javascript support so we can lurk and post in 4chan.

Any devs up to the task? Also general discussion of browser alternatives.
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The perfect browser was invented years ago.
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>>60885202
>Writen in C.
Why not Javascript/HTML5/CSS?
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>>60885792
And died in 2013
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>>60885838
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>>60885838
Those are for websites, not applications.
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>>60885838
>web browser, written in js+html+css
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>>60885850
was never good
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>>60885913
It's still the best.
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>>60885917
4U
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>>60885946
Yes.
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>>60885913
>>60885946
Older versions of it are good if you're using a Windows 9x machine.
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>>60885977
I'd rather not using Windows
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>>60885202
I'll make the logo!
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>>60886513
I'll make the motto!!!!!!
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isn't making a browser like really hard tho :/
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>>60886754
Yes and 90% of people here are shitty programmers so its not going to happen.
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>>60886754
No, you just make a skin for Chromium and think of a name for the new browser you just made.
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This are all firefox add-ons why not just use it anyways?
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>>60886789
You don't know what is happening at Mozilla right now, don't you?
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>>60886808
>muh sjw boogeyman
grow up
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>>60886822
No I mean the change to WebExtensions https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues/622
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>>60886858

Porting the add-ons should be a easy task compared to writing a new browser from scratch.
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>>60887012
Not necessarily, plus there are engines out there we can use
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>>60887012
I suggest you read a little more about Mozilla's new changes, devs are already complaining is too restrictive
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>>60887069
>mozilla requires addons to now be audited
>too difficult for devs

sounds like bs for lazy people who cant provide security for their users
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>>60887099
That is not what I said
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>>60887117
thats the issue though

before this all the addons werent audited by mozilla

then they started to add the audited mozilla addons

>addon isnt secure or optimized
>noob user blames firefox for a devs shortcomings or in some cases malicous nature

this kind of shit wouldnt be allowed in the apple store for example
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I'm using Yandex, seems to be fine.

Anyone else use(d) it?
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>>60887185
>yandex terms of service and privacy policy

hmmm
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>>60887069

Please show me I just see people talking shit with no substance, where is the problem? Show me a single extension that won't be able to be ported to WebExtension and why.
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>>60887185
>>60887194

It doesn't mean shit you are just using chromium anyways.
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>>60887205
Do you XUL support is irrelevant?
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Why not use Waterfox and go from there
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>>60887205
>suggests a addon that is now capable within the native browser by default

all addons do is modify about:config so just git gud

the new addon api will alow streamlined performance and better security and will reduce legacy attack surface

>99% of attacks now useless instead of allowing some random decade old big appearing that was glanced over
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>>60887235
its like continuing to use fat32 when we have ext4/xfs/zfs/ufs

you are limited by what you can do and what you can do isnt optimized for modern performance

you also are forcing nefarious people to learn everything from step 1 instead of using attacks that could work on other browsers sharing the same engine

also what XUL addon is so important to you that isnt being ported or is now built into the browser by default?
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>>60887245
>>60887235

XUL indeed gave power to plugins things like filtering request and content is important the question is that if its going to end just because of WebExtensions. I don't see that happening plugins like RequestPolicy already stated on github it can be done the same way.
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>>60887194

Oh, is there something I should know?

>>60887230

Probably
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>>60886754
4U
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>>60887236
Why not dwb https://portix.bitbucket.io/dwb/
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chrome/chromium no longer supports flash but a lot of ppl still use it.
https://vaughnlive.tv/profe3195
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So, is this happening?
The requirements are pretty much perfect.

This needs to happen now, because 52 ESR is almost over.

This doesn't need a logo. It doesn't even need a name yet. What it needs is code.
How can we get the smart people on board? I'm sure they'll be needing a browser soon, like everybody else.
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>>60891526
Some folks at /dpt/ showed some interest in the last two threads I've been there.

As for the code, it needs a lead developer but if someone were to host a github with OP's list (despite any personal opinion against the site) you can bet it will attract devs.

Also keeping this thread and the list alive as copypasta would help imho.
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If surf can be at roughly 2,000 lines of code just for the browser and webkit2gtk for the GUI I see no reason why /g/ can't.
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>>60891589
What about an IRC?
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What javascript engine would it use, the spidermonkey or V8 engine?
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>>60885850
F
Chinkopera is pretty good as far as non-retarded chromium clones go. It's not that privacy isn't important, but the data they can gleam after all the ad and cookie blocking done on user end(especially without an irl handle like Facebook/Google account) is damn near worthless.
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>>60891526
>52 ESR is almost over
Prepare ur anuses.
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>>60891670
Carakan
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>>60891688
And why Charakan?
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>>60891696
Because we can
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Somebody make a github and copy paste the OP
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>>60891526
>lets make a whole new browser with no addons because firefox is starting over with no addons

you sound like a butthurt chrome user
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I don't see why we shouldn't add addon capabilities. Would it be a scripting language?
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>>60891792
who is we?

its just a bunch of samefagging people pretending they are devs

nothing has ever come out of 4chan let alone /g/
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>>60891792
I don't see why not.

>>60891800
You seem to have a problem friendo, please don't talk.
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>>60891772
>>60891800
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>>60891819
why dont you work on links2 or lynx?

it can be run from command line and therefore is already a smaller attack surface

lynx even has a graphical mode and basic java
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The ideal browser is basically qutebrowser
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>>60891827
nice samefagging

have fun bumping the thread on your own
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>>60891835
And why make a fork other than just for the sake of making a fork?
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>>60891800
>nothing has ever come out of 4chan
literally wrong, even if you only count the past couple of years

>let alone /g/
probably right
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>>60891792
My guess this is going to to derive in a vimscript. But if you expose enough of the API you can make other things happen. Is not like this project wouldn't do it anyway, read the OP.
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>>60891800
>nothing has ever come out of 4chan
even [s4s] has a compilation band.
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Someone from google is being paid to try to discourage any development hoping they will start to use chrome.
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>>60891887
>Someone
>one (1)
lol
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NetSurf engine looks small enough http://www.netsurf-browser.org/about/

They use Duktape for javascript though.
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>>60891887
>boogeyman

Bro, just try it out.
Seriously, it's a good browser!
Just uninstall firefox and come over, okay?
Good.

What could it hurt?
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>>60891906
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>>60891887
Is possible. Is not like they wouldn't get any money by dragging users into their browser for extra add revenue.
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>>60891929
>add revenue
*ad revenue
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>>60891901
http://source.netsurf-browser.org/netsurf.git/
According to Open Hub it has 285,700 lines of code https://www.openhub.net/p/netsurf/analyses/latest/languages_summary

Then there is surf, but I don't know how possible is having the same features.
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>>60891800
>nothing has ever come out of 4chan

I fucking wish nothing ever came out of 4chan. It would still be my secret club.
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>>60891991
Netsurf is already multiplatform
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I'm currently rangebanned from starting a new thread but /banned says I'm not banned. Test post.
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>>60892077
Don't you mean range blocked since that just stops any ip in a range from being able to post.
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>>60892098
Yeah rangeblocked.

>Posting from your ISP, IP range, or country has been blocked due to abuse.
Only when starting a new thread, regardless of board. No idea what's going on.
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>>60892126
It means you have shitposters in the area
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>>60892130
I believe that.
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>>60892143
Yup, that makes sense
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>>60892130
>>60892126
The admins are incredibly inconsistent with the range blocks. Let's say my phone ip is blocked just go into airplane mode for 30 seconds and most likely i'll get an ip not blocked.
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>>60891589
>>60891728
https://github.com/Prospero86/netrunner

I was about to delete that account, so is pretty much a placeholder for the moment.
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>>60892156
Lucky. My last IP lasted for almost a year. (Lucky there's a work-around I can use to get another IP sometimes but it's inconvenient.)

>>60892153
Always loved that picture.
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>>60892174
netrunner? The name should be voted on later.
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>>60892188
agree but better hurry up with that logo
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What do I need to fend off browser trackers?
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Chrome is just so god damn fast, it's almost worth giving my information to Jewgle
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>>60885202
>>60892174
Is it worth putting "free" in the feature list, or was that implicit?
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>>60891772
Firefox has been going to shit for ages now. But no one did anything because it was still sorta usable. Soon it won't be usable anymore.

>lets make a whole new browser with no addons
It's funny that you got that from
>Every good firefox addon will be a built in feature.
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>>60892242
Did you really had to ask? Yes, it is free as in freedom anon.
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>>60892242
done
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Why dont you guys just install chrome?
Seriously, it's pretty good..

If you don't you're just a loser lynoox firefag!

>inb4 botnet
>inb4 sjw google

Who cares?
Quit being /v/irgins and experience something for once in your lives.
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>>60892258
>>60892264
Instead of saying "free as in freedom", just GPL it already.
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>>60892309
D:
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>>60892329
Project already is licensed under GPL v3
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>>60892343
Hey, I tried atleast...
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Let's just throw some names around. You think netrunner would be a good browser name?
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>>60892364
Yeah, why not.
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>>60892364
No
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>>60892344
other suggestions

turn off disk usage for following:
>cache
>tmp data
>cookies
>logs
ect

basically no drive data and its all locked into ram

this will make it easier to sandbox or chroot/jail
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Why C and not C++?

Also, multiplat?
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>>60892376
Then give alternatives anon because is the best so far
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>>60892391
c++ is proprietary and owned by microshills

c is universal and portable and open
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>>60892388
What about downloads, won't that be in the jail and when the jail closes gets deleted?
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>>60892360
oh nah, I laughed and all but I already responded to the google shillpost back in >>60891906
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>>60892405
>download location path

you can add a seperate directory that is also sandboxed or a seperate flashdrive for bookmarks/downloads

i do the same exact thing with firefox now
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>>60892392
My alternative right now is

>This doesn't need a logo. It doesn't even need a name yet. What it needs is code.

Codename:netrunner is fine for now.
If we focus on shit like that, it'll be DOA.
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does framebuffer and tty support = CLI :3??

as in no xorg depends?
daddy likey!
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>>60892467
Yes, obviously a strong feature.
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>>60892404
>c++ is proprietary and owned by microshills

Any reason that is actually true?
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>>60892465
You're right, netrunner is fine for right now and probably would be a decent name if it became official.

>>60892467
Yeah, zero xorg dependencies so no GTK or QT frameworks for the GUI. Even if you use xorg you would just run it in a terminal.
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what's happening to firefox? should i abandon it?
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>>60892482
>>60892498
I agree.

this will allow us to pipe it into other programs for example to allow mpv to intercept video or irrsi to intercept irc
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>>60892558
its starting to become chrome levels of sjw
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What about a 'download all the things' feature like DownThemAll?

>>60892558
Don't listen to >>60892593. It's got nothing to do with 'sjw'. Basically Firefox is abandoning XUL, which will make all of the useful addons stop working.
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>>60892558
I like where this is going. This transfers the workload to external applications and there is no need to worry about making a hundred implementation of something that other programs already do well.
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>>60892612
Why not simply sending commands to work in the background and have wget accessible from the integrated command line? Opening the chance for other batch processes having a display of such and all.

Wasn't wget the backend for DownThemAll?
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>>60892674
exactly

if its a terminal based browser you can copy all hyperlinks on a page into curl or wget

we dont need a download manager that is extra bloat

just pipe it into wget or curl
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>>60892808
Maybe if all background processes can be displayed it could optionally work as a monitor of those, if it is well designed in a single interface that requires little coding.
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added everything discussed so far to the github https://github.com/Prospero86/netrunner

if you want to make changes before I return feel free to fork
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>>60885202
Please don't kill me but what about having to choose between a vim-like and emacs-like keybindings and using the emacs one by default? More people is accustomed to emacs shorcuts than vim's.
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Can we set on netsurf for the layout engine and start the coding? It has already enough features and probably the next step is taking out chunks of code to replace it with external calls.
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Are all good web browsers written in C?
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>>60893293
qutebrowser is nice but is written in python, yuck
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>>60893316
Dev already said that the heavy lifting is done by the engine.

At this point, it's irrational to criticize qutebrowser.

Plus, it's pretty quick, so....
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>>60893288
Maybe the people behind NetSurf like our changes too, but I'll wait to hear what others have to say.
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>>60893293
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>>60890224
Because it's officially abandoned since some 3 years and using the buggy and insecure WebKit1:

https://bitbucket.org/portix/dwb/pull-requests/22/several-cleanups-to-increase-portability/diff
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Uninstall Stylus.
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>>60892404
troll or idiot?
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>>60893293
nope
http://www.lextrait.com/vincent/implementations.html#Mozilla
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Have you guys considered Otter?
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>>60885838
almost fpbp. Try again anon
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>>60892404
wtf dude
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>>60885850
Opera worked fine for me up until like 2 weeks ago, now random black bars appear everywhere and entire webpages will be obscured in black.
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I remember when microsoft had to roll out an update which showed you all the browsers, like 20 of them.

Most of them were shit though
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>>60895913
Either you fucked up majorly or your GPU is failing hard, because this never happens to me for anything on Opera.
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>>60885838
>Why are browsers not written in HTML
>Browsers written in HTML
>Programs written in HTML
>Written in HTML
>HTML is a programming language
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>>60895995
ofc you need javascript too but that is obvious. It should even be for a retard like you
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>>60896025
I didn't want to type "HTML and JS" 5 times.
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>>60895978
I've been using an Acer Aspire for about a year and a half, and it's also worth noting that I use the developer beta for the free VPN.
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>>60895423
>Have you guys considered Otter?
what is that?
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>>60891002
>chrome/chromium no longer supports flash
>streamfag
>a lot of ppl
>namefag
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>>60891922
WTF she is smiling.
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I thought Pale Moon was /g/'s unofficial browser. What happened?
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>Linus steps up again and delivers an uncucked browser which quickly becomes de facto standard across all OS.
>Stallman insists it should be called GNU/browser
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>>60885850
Vivaldi, try Vivaldi.
After more than 10 years on Opera, i started to by disgusted, so I tried Vivaldi, and I am very satisfied.
It is made by the original Opera creators, and it is devoted to community. Because it is based on Chromium, you can use all the Chrome's extensions.

Once you go Vivaldi, you never Opera again.

IE/EDGE, FF, Chrome, etc. are shit.
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>>60897302
*started to be
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Are palemoon and Icecat bad or something?
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What if we took Cyberfox and forked it?
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>>60897302
>based on Chromium

instadropped
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Making a browser based off chromium or firefox doesn't allow for framebuffer support.
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>>60897530
Thank you, that should stop the shitposting
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>>60891835
>lynx even has a graphical mode and basic java
Can it work without X11?
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>>60891835
Why lynx over elinks or links2?
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Take a vote on what we should use as a base. I looked up which browsers already were framebuffer compatible, let me know if I missed any.
https://www.strawpoll.me/13187911
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>one (1) autist makes qutebrowser
>/g/ shitposters can't make a single think
enjoy your logos
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my vote is for lynx

it has html 4.0 support (tables and frames)

it has a graphical mode that works without xorg and it had java support in the past so it would be easier to implement if required

not to mention it has the most recent support between links2/elinks
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>>60897666
yup it can even run from console (tty)
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>>60897683
lynx has the majority of stuff we need
and is the most updated of the 3

graphical support (pictures) is the major benefit
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>>60898181
I though lynx didn't support any pictures at all.
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>>60898202
my mistake you are right im thinking of links2 -g

(from the wiki) links does not support JavaScript any more (it used to, up to version 2.1pre28).

could this be re-implemented?
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>>60898112
Java != JavaScript
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>>60898248
You know, all links2 really needs is some javascript support and a few other features and it's good to go.
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>>60885202
It will be hard to satisfy
>Writen in C.
>Low on dependencies.
But I want to toss a suggestion in here...

If we use the kde libraries we can use the file picker from kde (which everyone agrees is superior) and you can use a lot of other things like kparts.
A good example would be to have a tab for the recent downloads and have a terminal ready, so you could do stuff with the files you downloaded right away.
You could also use either a terminal or a library in (kwrite would work right away) to use a better editor in the textarea fields.
kwrite already uses javascript to extend the functionality, so it would be quite decent in a browser.
I don't know how secure this would be though.

It would take it into C++ though.
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>>60898268
agreed.

you can even use the shell within links2
and it already works with wget right off the bat!

its useable already honestly
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>>60885977
>using 20 year old os in the year of our Lord 2017
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>>60898332
>kde grahpical toolkit

we want it to not have any xorg dependancies?

its a CLI browser
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>>60898332
>KDE
?
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>>60897973
Is w3m any good?
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>>60898383
there is a lot of features that suggested a graphical interface (mpv call, stylish etc)
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>>60898491
>mpv call
Already possible in ELinks
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>>60897973
Arachne is a full suite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne_%28web_browser%29
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>>60898521
links2 can call mpv also
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>>60898754
And both have CSS and some experimental javascript support right?
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Very impressed by Firefox 54. Multi process is amazing. Feels fast as fuck.
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>>60885202
opera and safari don't support html download attributes... what gives?
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I exclusively use the web browser built into my PlayStationĀ© portable
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>>60892674
>>60892808
How about daemonizing processes to leave jobs in the background after closing the browser? Is ideal for sysadmins
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Enough talking make a rough
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>>60900611
Do you have a repository?
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>>60900611
>>60900968
https://github.com/Prospero86/netrunner
The projects name is going to stay netrunner.
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>>60897973
>w3m
>license X11
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>>60901549
>https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/ELinks
>ELinks is an enhanced version of Links, a Lynx-like text Web browser with support for tables, frames, background downloads, SSL etc. It has a menu-fashioned user interface and is smaller and more lightweight than Lynx. ELinks adds many valuable features, like HTTP and proxy authentication, reasonable cookies support, Lua scripting, downloads resuming, very high configurability and more. ELinks has built-in support for HTTP, FTP, finger and local files; users can define their own external handlers for any other protocols.
Fork it
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>>60901766
doesnt only links2 support tls/ssl though?
what about grfx?
js?
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>>60901902
elinks seems to support tls http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/elinks-users/2007-July/001483.html
http://elinks.or.cz/documentation/manual.html
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>>60901902
links2 is a far greater base to build around.

elinks seems a bit dated in comparison and it will require a lot more work.

we just need to thin it out and make it modular since it already has shell capabilities

mpv 4 video (could be rendered on page within terminal)
wget DL manager(already built around)
tor (will require a new api but we dont need to make any other infrastructure)
sandboxed bookmarks (export/import encrypted bookmarks locally)
maybe rsync script could be automated for a hacky syncing feature
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>>60901927
even the psp forked version is better with graphics
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Putting every possible function into one application that is internet accessible just seems like a terrible idea on its face. Can we just like make separate applications that do different things like how things used to be?
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thats the idea of using a small base
we make it modular so you choose what addons you need and if you dont need that feature dont download it

this provides a much smaller attack surface overall

>>60901927
>Elinks last updates
>stable
0.11.7[1] (22 August 2009; 7 years ago)
>Preview release 0.12pre6[2] (30 October 2012; 4 years ago)

>links2
>Stable release 2.14[1] (3 November 2016; 7 months ago)
>Preview release none (n/a)

which do you think will be the easier one to modernize and modify?

we just need to reduce its size
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>>60901943
>>60902054
You both have good points, lets move on with links2
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>>60901977
first paragraph
>>>60902054
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>>60902063
who has the netrunner git?
are we forking the repo?
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>>60902114
GPLv2+ can be upgraded to GPL3 correct? just not downgraded?

I'd prefer GPL3 in either case because it protects against a loophole
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>>60902114
See >>60892174 >>60892942
just fork it
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>>60902145
Ah.
Someone should probably create it originally, using a anon protocol, and give priv to about 5-10 people.

Those people can audit merges and we leave everything else open to prevent a hiarchy.

The idea being no one will be held liable in the case of some deeper entities that wish to allow in some form of subversion.

Obviously random editors are safe, just not the original creator.

I do like the name btw.
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>>60902222
*cough* Deep-Stadt :^) *cough*
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>>60901943
>>60902063
Okay, so lynx and elinks are ruled out. What about compared to w3m and netsurf?
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>>60903022
I didn't see many features implemented on w3m but I do on netsurf, like ssl. I could be wrong though.
>>
Cool
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Just out of curiosity, what would someone need in order to develop a web browser with javascript from scratch? I guess you'd need to be able to read and understand the details and neuances of many different RFCs and specifications like the http protocol, html specification, and the javascript specification, and a bunch of different image file format specifications, etc. Lots of people get into osdev and making their own hobby os, why not browsers? It would require a lot of CS too just like osdev would. I guess you'd need to be really good at things found in a compiler design textbook and for parsing the different things like html, css, js.
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>>60896679
https://otter-browser.org/
> Otter Browser aims to recreate the best aspects of the classic Opera (12.x) UI using Qt5.
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>>60895423
I did,then I saw it used QtWebKit
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>github no responding in a day
Is anybody here with another github account?
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I use Vivaldi, it's great in every sense but i don't get how they fucked up something as basic as search suggestions
In any case it definitely is the best browser right now hands down
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>>60885850
>what browser do you use?
>opera
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>>60906130
Fuck you, Opera's the best.

>>60897302
Vivaldi's ass.
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>>60897302

vivaldi is alright but its closed source so no thanks enjoy you're botnet, fail derp
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>>60906130
>what browser do you use?
>safari
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>>60904813
Are you aware of https://github.com/annulen/webkit/wiki ?
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>>60908902
No, and I don't care to be.
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Can someone with an active github account fork links2 to start this?
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Since this is a browser thread...anyone would recommend brave?
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>>60885202
>Actual javascript support so we can lurk and post in 4chan.
Javascript is not required to post on 4chan. 4chan X settings can replace the javascript captcha.
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>>60885913
come with arguments you retard
did you know the creator of css works on opera? im pretty sure you have never used opera and just think its bad based of other peoples opinion who have never used it
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>>60910635
no wonder CSS is so shit :^)
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>>60911572
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>60910272
no
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>>60897086
it became too muck like cuckfox
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>>60887178
But the Apple Store is a closed garden, and shouldn't be a reference by any means for an open system.

Though I do agree with you, its easier to make Firefox better (by contributing upstream or forking it) than making a new browser from scratch.

Waterfox is good enough for be desu. Multi-processes really helped in the performance difference with Chromium.
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>>60885202
OP, I found a picture of the browser you want.
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>>60914305 (you)
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>>60914334
Actually, it should be `(You)`.
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>>60904789
>Otter Browser aims to recreate the best aspects of the classic Opera (12.x) UI using Qt5.
Tell me more
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>>60914405
>>
If there is no more complains then we set links2 as the way to go.
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>>60885202
What about native ad blocking/ability to use the adblocking lists that things like ublock/adblock uses without having to have them installed?
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>>60917081
Maybe is too technical, but those same things are mentioned in the OP
>Granular control over incomming traffic like Policeman (more control than uMatrix in this particular subject).
Is the native ad blocking you ask
>Easy switch to preset profiles for both like uBlock Origin for incomming traffic and Privacy Settings for outgoing traffic.
Is the adblocking lists feature
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>>60885202
IE for Netflix,
Opera for mainly for News but also normal browsing
and Chrome for everything else
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>>60918099
Wait why not use edge?
>>
>>60896038
JS is a programming language ...
>>
Is this happening?
>>
>>60918164
Yes, we already had a couple devs around
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>>60918210
I wonder if it will succeed... A truly free browser would be so good. Is the 'netrunner' repository the official thing?
>>
>>60918248
Is just a placeholder for suggestions, development will happen elsewhere with either other github account or with another hosting.
>>
Is Vivaldi meme?
>>
is ungoogled-chromium still deprecated?
>>
our browser should be named trapsarenotgay
>>
>>60892612
>FF major selling point are add-ons
>"hey let's kill add-ons!"
Who the fuck came up with this?
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i'm the OP from >>60915949

someone was saying you dorks need a git repo to use with links2 forked, i put a gogs install up with a repo here:

http://magicpackets.net:3000/proudfeet/netrunner

I'm new to links2 and forking stuff in general, I just grabbed the source from the site and put it in there as-is. I'm sure I'm missing some requisite libraries or did something wrong... I'll have to mess with it this weekend

my servers pretty barebones too, still have to get email set up and shit. but you can register an account, just email me at [email protected] if you want me to add you to contribooters
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>>60919191
>>
>>60919191
I redirected the github to that page for the clueless
>>
>>60919191
I'll Make The Logo!!!!!
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>>60919425
That's the spirit
>>
>>60919425
We are going to end up with 15 logos and no browser
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>>60919608
Obviously. /g/ never makes anything.
>>
I saw the copypasta some threads ago but was just redirected here. I'd actually be very willing to contribute, but I'm not very experienced so I'm not suited to start or lead the project or anything.

I'll be following this with interested, ready to pitch in when I can.
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>>60919425
>>60919608
>Netrunner
>picture a guy running on the net
>cyberpunk and shit
How about a blue skinned cool guy with sunglasses like the moonman. Make it look 10% cooler though.
>>
>>60919652
The more the merrier, anon gave a mail >>60919191
lets use it
>>
>>60885202
>Writen in C.

Doesn't matter if it's C or C++. Too many /g/ babbies don't know that C++ can be (provably) as efficient as C as long as the programmer knows how each C and C++ feature is compiled to machine code, and selects which C++ feature to use (and to avoid) based on that knowledge.
>>
use chrome for 4 years
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>>60919654
>blue skinned cool guy with sunglasses
Not blue but sorta fits the bill
>>
>>60897086
>>60897430
Normalfags don't know anything about it, hence this thread's lack of its mention. Normalfags like laggy botnet browsers.
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>>60919825
>Normalfags like laggy botnet browsers
With no addons.
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>>60919855
This desu

I've got a kinda working setup I'm mostly happy with, and it's definitely better than anything else I've tried, but I would still prefer something from the OP.
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What the fuck, Vivaldi got a new update today and now every time I go to a site from the speed dial, it redirects me via Google. The hell is this
>>
Anyone having issues with Pale Moon AND Cyberfox since yesterday? Both browsers for me suddenly have their settings so that they open up a few tabs telling me about my add-ons whenever I reopen the browsers. And they both keep reverting the Download Helper add-on to its shitty default settings. Oh, and they keep resetting my default homepage whenever the browser is restarted. Cyberfox did have an update yesterday while Pale Moon didn't, yet both are acting like this.
>>
IRC is up here if anyone wants to use that, i'll set up a mailing list too if that'd be better

magicpackets.net:6667
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>>60920889
>6667
>>
>>60920889
nice
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>Not fetching web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back.
>Not then using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly.
>Not usually trying lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (using konqueror, which won't fetch from other sites in such a situation).
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>>60920999
>>
>>60891922
>Mandy
>Smiling

what the fuq. This isn't possible, someone get a fucking exorcist... No, a satanist in here
>>
PALEMOON
A
L
E
M
O
O
N
>>
>written in C

If the point is speed then why not assembly my dude :^)
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>>60921863
why not :^)
>>
>>60920999
>not an on-demand service that has a pajeet print out a physical copy of the website and fax it to you

Lack of Startup MindsetĀ® itt is disgusting
>>
>>60921863
Portability
>>
>>60885202
/djt/ here. The only reason I use firefox is the Rikaisama addon.
>>
So is there a repo set up for this yet?
>>
>>60922889
See >>60919191
>>
>>60918557
I use it and I'm pretty satisified. Why would it be a meme?
>>
https://github.com/browserhtml/browserhtml

can someone explain this for me - is it just a new/experimental browser from mozilla?
>>
>>60887185
I stopped using it when they started bundling it with yandex defender or how the fuck was it called. If it was optional I wouldn't have complained but having a sort of """"AV""" that runs when you're using yandex is shit.
For those wondering, it was not a full anti virus program, it would only run when you started the browser and it would close when you closed the browser
>>
>>60919191
Retard here

Why are we using another server, why not just vanilla Shithub?
>>
>>60924316
https://github.com/browserhtml/browserhtml/wiki/FAQ

What is Browser.html?

Browser.html is an experiment in building a browser for Servo in HTML.

What is Servo?

Servo is a rendering engine being built by Mozilla Research. Written in Mozilla's new systems programming language, Rust, the Servo project aims to achieve better parallelism, security, modularity, and performance.

Is Browser.html consumer-ready?

Nope. Browser.html is still experimental software. It will have bugs and not everything will work right. If you want a fast, stable browser, check out Firefox.
>>
>>60909783
where is
>discussing every small technicality to death while other autists are making tons of logos
>>
>>60920889

oh yea and the channel is #netrunner

>>60924753

just personal preference on my part, if you guys want to use github instead then feel free
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>>60892174
I think it's unfair to claim the only reason is because of Firefox.
It's disengenuous and unfair to Firefox.

We should atleast mention the shortcomings of Chrome, Vivaldi, ect and that Firefox being the last resort, we collapsed.

Or just "modern browsers" placeholder.
Also I really like NetRunner.
Hope that is the agreed upon name.
>>
>>60924920
Servo actually has more capabilities than just Rust alone.

It has the capability to assist with OpenGL rendering. (Also gleam)
>>
>>60924920
OpenCL* and GL(gleam)

There's also experimental GLES but that's not a in house project(community).
>>
>>60925314
>Also I really like NetRunner.
>Hope that is the agreed upon name.
Me too
>>
>>60925547
Agreed.
>>
When I get a chance, I'll look into some of the repos, and see if we can embed mpv within a tables frame or similar.

It prob won't be too hard to just create a quick script to pipe out.

A full screen(console framebuffer) or seperate 640x480 (terminal) in the case of xterm/wayland.
>>
>>60925639
Embedding in the actual browser will be a little more difficult though.

Also are we building these into NetRunner?

Should we have APIs with seperate project repos (for example librejs or mpv within links2)

I still need to setup a seperate email(registration and mailing list) and github account.
>>
Was /g/ just larping?
>>
>>60913776
Why not?
>>
>>60925547
>>60925605

FYI netrunner is the name of a Linux distro, not that branding matters at this point

Netrunner.com
>>
Why was links2 selected as the browser? What does it have over w3m or netsurf?
>>
>>60926265
kek, I knew about that, good distro OOT with everything our winfriends could ask
>>
>>60925797
No unless we keep arguing over which browser to use

>>60926959
see >>60898268 >>60898363
What is left is coding
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Don't forget to send the email to proudfeet and join the team.
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>>60920086
That's vivaldi.
I stopped caring when 3 versions in the performance dropped through the floor and I couldn't do 60fps video playback anymore.
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>>60929649

This

I'll get a mailing list going this weekend, probably easier for everyone than idling in IRC all the time
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