/cyb/ /sec/ general: cyberpunk and cybersecurity: hard boiled edition

Bumping because nice lucky quads.

>>60848690
Thank you, I wish this would attract more attention as they're both interesting topics.

>>60847777
hate to be that guy, but artist for that pic?

>>60848886
>Hard Boiled
Here you go:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geof_Darrow

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Finished all of the must-watch cyberpunk shows and read most of the must-reads.
Now what?

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So, are you niggers ready for the UK encryption ban? Soon you'll be smuggling algorithms across the channel in rubber rafts.

>>60847777
Nice quads. South Korea is the most cyberpunk country desu.

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>>60849723
let the Crypto Wars begin

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>>60849723
>you actually lived to see a dystopian cyberpunk future
conflicted as to whether that's a good or bad thing at this point

>>60849676

Now watch how the real world becomes a one

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>>60847777
Looks like Bill from KotH in the top right.
Also the art reminds me of some of Kanekoshake's work.
Not really cyberpunk though

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>>60850236
>transmetropolitan
>not /cyb/
U fuckin wot m8?

>>60849723
Lul what? Mummy mays government is a fucking mess. They ain't gonna let her pass SHIT that'll hurt business.

>>60850090
Woah, what the source/context of this? Looks awesome

anyone here actually work on the firewall side of things are do you fags just stare at siem alerts all day

>>60850499
I shitpost on r9k complaining about how good my life is while soaking up "how to hack" threads on reddit because I'm too lazy to actually study anything in the infosec realm.

>>60850527
that sounds like a very good use of your time

>>60850499

Firewalls aren't worth anything without siem to contextualize the traffic. No one wants to watch tons of dropped connections from random scans.

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>start lurking /sec/
>realise Id like to move into cybersecurity as a career
>randomly reach out to partner in Big 4 on LinkedIn, he's in charge of cyber here
>agrees to meet for coffee
>turns out to be an absolute bro, gives me a ton of advice, offers to put me in touch with people in the industry here
>enthusiastically points out that you can earn a shitload after a few years
>seems to like me, implies strongly that if I pass OSCP and CISSP he'll give me a job

We're all gonna make it, bros

>>60850252
He means kanekoshakes stuff

It has a /cyb/ vibe without being related to electronics, whatever you call that

>>60851487
Have you looked into either of those certs? Because it's going to be fucking hard work.

>>60851487
Fucking hell I have too much social phobia for the career meme.

>>60852256
Oh yeah, I'm well aware. Expensive too.

He suggested a cert by Elearn Security as a cheaper, quicker alternative to OSCP, could be handy as a stepping stone if I'm struggling with OSCP.

>>60852316
Got to man up and do it, I'm afraid.

Meeting random people is hard and uncomfortable, but good luck getting anywhere without it

>>60852374
Neet life for me thanks

i feel like the sec discussions have gotten worse and less since the cyb/sec merger. this is suffering.

>>60852564
Suggest a topic for discussion then, rather than whining about it

>>60852477
This board is based

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>>60847777
>nice picture
>nice quads

Thread is looking good already.

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>>60847777
I understand we're living the cyberpunk dystopia Right Now (TM) but for some reason I'm just not feeling it. I have my tablet and internet and even an Oculus Rift but something's missing. I'm thinking what I need is a really high quality set of AR glasses to really love the dream.
Pic related are the R9 by ODG and won't be released until June but they run Android and sport a Snapdragon 835. Cost over $1000 but I don't care. I'm hyped to live the dream

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What's the least cucked entry-level /sec/ job? In terms of both money and what you actually do.

I know security operations analysis and pen testing are two common routes in, any others?

>>60851597
You mean something like the Akira atmosphere?

>>60850397
That is the buried bunker thing, a common fetish around this place.

The briefest inspection shows it misses a lot, like
- power sources
- clean water storage and filtration
- waste water handling
- clean air handling
- temperature and humidity control, especially for the computer rig and the toilet
- no shower, bathroom

It is all just a fantasy.

>>60852477
>You guys should have a look
I did. it was pretty dead. Contents was not too impressive. Why not rather contribute here? It is not as if reading here is like drinking from the fire hose.

>>60853839
Maybe network engineer>network security engineer? Or making millions writing ransomware for outdated systems since local government can't afford to run updates for some reason.

I'd like to know the answer to this myself.

>>60852564
>>60852786
OK, let's try a strawpoll to see what people want.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13161298

>>60854845
Name it /sec/ /cyb/
Not the other way around.

>>60849676
Would you care to request some Cyberpunk material? Especially movies or shows

>>60849723
>gesaffelstein shocks dick listen to perturbator or lazerhawk
I don't know why but this made me laugh very hard.

>>60854845
I just don't think cyberpunk and sec are the level of butt buddies people think they are. I like the cyberpunk stuff but the security stuff is just booooooring.

Guys, I'm just sitting here and laughing at IOT malware still spreading from one normie kitchen to another. The future is now.

>>60855066
>but the security stuff is just booooooring
You are why the merger was bad.

why does cyber security have to do with cyberpunk?

most "cyberpunks" couldnt even connect a monitor to a computer

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>>60850805
>Firewalls aren't worth anything without siem to contextualize the traffic
firewalls are worth plenty even if you didnt analyze the traffic. which most businesses dont

>>60855106
this guy >>60851487 here.

Funny you should mention that, the guy talked about IOT security as an area that's gonna grow like a motherfucker- people haven't realised their fridges and TVs can spy on them yet.

What are you using to monitor that? Or are you just seeing it

>>60855411
https://intel.malwaretech.com/
That and the weekly alarms about ransomware attacks.

Continuing the multi thread discussion on knowledge management...

>>60831097
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is taht animation related to GJots2? i installed GJots2 on a virtual Kubuntu machine and while it looks interesting it doesn't quite look like that.

>>60829528 (You)
>Tree views are underrated. In particular a simple text editor with hierarchical management like GJots2 has been a huge improvement for me. Write unrelated stuff, take notes, switch positions, all things that are simple but sometimes are not done simple enough in other applications.
Seems like a good way of *entering* knowledge but how about annotations, tagging, search and retrieval? Also, sharing? Revision management?


>Another huge improvement would be using a LaTeX editor with this tree view manipulation, something like LyX, and maybe image embedding.
Sounds good. I installed LyX too and it has some revision management which is good.


>But serious work can be done with a simple text editor with simple outliner functions. This is why I plan to learn vimscript to write a simple plugin for this but without heavy dependencies. Dependencies was what turn me off when I saw VOoM (Vim Outliner of Markups), I don't want an specific python library just for this task, I want the power of vim with a simple and fast way to save nested text in a hierarchical organization.
I am all for simplicity and text storage. Databases, while fast, are also hard to recover after a crash and somehow I have landed in a lot of SQL implosions. Ugh. Also text make sit easy to craft own tools. I have done a few in awk which have been plenty fast enough.

>That's my 2 cents.
Appreciated. Still looks like we need something better. Perhaps I should found that startup even if it means I might end up a billionaire.

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>>60855577
My nigga

>>60855686
Saw a girl exactly like this in a coffeeshop in Hong Kong today

Asian girl, hair short, dyed, side-shaved, with a cool tattoo on her arm. /cyb/ style is hot when done right

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Does anyone know the best way to get IP address blocks for your surrounding area? Seems like most companies make you pay for the data.

>>60854930
>>60855066
>>60855246
>>60855292

OK, so the strawpoll >>60854845 has been running for 3 hours and we have 18 votes, seems there is a lot of common interest. At the same time we have 30 posters in this thread.

The result was a surprise to me, seems many who voted mainly lurk in here.

>>60855020
strange days was pretty cool

>>60848968
its transmetropolitan

>>60854845
that poll can go wrong in so many ways, just keep /sec/ and pay more attention to who is trolling

>>60849723
they should just ban math all together and replace it with supplementary cultural sensitivity subjects

mathematics is a useless archaic subject if you ask me

>>60855066
psyop

nice quads op >>60847777

>>60849676
Is she holding a pineapple or a plant?

>>60858530
Have you never seen a pineapple? Serious question because pineapple leaves don't sway to the wind like that.
Just a plant and I don't think she's holding it.

>>60850499
My job is literally managing SELinux policies and troubleshooting. I hate it and wish we used a system with Apparmor or FreeBSD for that glorious configurable MAC.

>>60854500
>the largest ransomware attack in history
>less than $100,000

https://www.thesslstore.com/blog/wannacry-ransom-total/

>>60852564
>>60854930
>>60855066
>>60855292
>>60858144
>Samefagging whinetard.
First of all, the majority of this are apparently either fine with cyberpunk culture, or came here for both cyberpunk culture and computer security.
So, your argument is baseless and one-sided in favour of pretty much only your perception.
A perception which is faulty, might I add.
Considering the fact that cyberpunk and cyber security go hand in hand, consider the following:
We live a world which grows ever nearer to the cyberpunk genre (high tech, low life) and in this world and the world that will come, cyber security will become ever more important to protect your data, freedom and others.
So, yes, you Nimrod, they go hand in hand.

Also, to add a caveat:
If you dislike it and wish to 'undo' the merger, then you are WELCOME to create your own /sec/ thread, without the /cyb/ content.

>>60857084
Don't look on the clear web for it.

>>60855686
>>60856175
Agreed, I know /pol/ always goes on about how degenerate it is, but who cares?

>>60859486
yeah but some of us arnt fucking computer larpers lol
shouldnt you be replaying hack.net rn

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>>60859509
>Makes shitty argument.
>Gets BTFO by anon.
>Tries to retort with some LARPer bullshit.
I think the only person LARPing here is you, considering the fact that if you knew anything about cybersec, you would understand the trend toward technological authoritarianism on the part of nation states, organisations and multinationals (the military-industrial complex).
So next time you try and play the keyboard warrior and hacker savant, fact check your faux-diatribes.

>>60859559
yeah but if you dont do anything about that other than shitposting on /g/ about muh culture and muh aesthetic ur just a larper dude

&& trying to sound smart lol "faux diatribes" u look dumb as fuck

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>>60859608
>Implying I'm not learning about cyber security, but enjoy cyberpunk culture.
What is even your argument? You seem to have none, considering the majority of the thread don't agree with you.
Go and live in your elitist MUH PURE computer security thread then, buddy. :)

>u look dumb as fuck
You can't even see me you retard, what a shitty metaphor.

And the terms I used are correct.
A diatribe is:
>a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism.
However, it is isn't truly that as the whole thing is baseless nonsense without any argument attached, therefore 'faux'.
Faux meaning:
>artificial or imitation; fake.

So clearly, I am smarter than you at least.

Now, if you can pick up your teeth and return to your /sec/ thread, I'm merciful.

>>60858144
>that poll can go wrong in so many ways
I know, that was a calculated risk. Still, if someone wanted to spend a lot of effort to spike the results one would have expected a huge skew in the results yet what we see is fairly uniform and not unreasonable.

It does however differ a bit from the 30 posters in here which may mean the posters and voters are different groups which in turn could be explained by time zones. Given another 20 hours will let us see that.

Also: there are many ways to see if statistics are manipulated, that is how the Greeks were caught out.

Reminder:
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13161298

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>>60859486
>Samefagging

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>>60859874
>:^)

>Inb4: USING GOOGLE, OMG, BOTNET!

>>60857499
Indeed

>>60859672
>So clearly, I am smarter than you at least.
>i am very smart

>>60860393
Prove it.

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>>60859486
>Don't look on the clear web for it.

Don't look for IP blocks on the clearnet? Are you 13 years old?

>>60860871
>What is piracy?
For free, you dickhead.

>>60859475
Wannacry was shit though and overblown as fuck. The other ransomeware families bring in millions of dollars a year.

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>>60860871
I'm totally capable of building this with what I have in the house.

>>60854061
- power sources
- clean water storage and filtration
- waste water handling
Wtf, they don't show those details in normal apartments either, they're behind walls or under the floor or some shit.
- clean air handling
- temperature and humidity control, especially for the computer rig and the toilet
The first could be the fans and pad-like thing next to the stack of books, the second too, or it may be controlled through the computer, or just always automatically set.
- no shower, bathroom
The shower is in the corner of the bathroom we don't see.
When he showers, he shuts the toilet, locks up the toilet paper and just let it flush all over the bathroom. Probably a drain on the floor then.

>>60853575
>r8 is only $1000
Wow, that's shockingly cheap. If this shit takes off we could see $500 AR headsets in a few years.

How do you make bank in cybersec?

Graduated with CS in 2016, been working as software engineer for a year while studying security. Passed CISSP couple weeks ago (but just Associate until meet experience req), company offering OSCP course in a couple weeks. What next?

All I see are roles for Information Assurance which just seems like a bunch of paperwork. Where is the money at?

>>60862445
Get m4d l337 and h4x0r some big company, but make sure to leave a small trace and benefit from the 1nf4my to get a neat job and make m4j0r b007y.

>>60862491
what/where are the neato jobs?
All I see are lame IA jobs.

>>60862591
What about NSA or GCHQ?

>>60862624
>They told me I could be anything I wanted, so I became part of a totalitarian machine and oppressed my fellow citizens

>>60862633
Gosh, so moral.
I like how you didn't object to hacking a company, but working for the 'government' is too far.

>>60862659
I'm not the same guy.
However I have to say that stealing something from a company typically harms fewer people than facilitating spying operations that target everyone in the world with an internet connection.

>>60862676
I like you.
If you hacked a big enough company and made a big enough splash, after working for them for a while to mitigate the fall out and make some decent bankage, you could then easily found your own security consultancy firm.

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>>60862633
totalitarian is the main subject here

>>60851487
How long have you been working in it bro? Are you employed already?

>>60852256
how so? do you have one? if you do how was it? whats it encompass?

>>60863034
Nope, work in another area of tech and hoping to change over

Definitely not gonna have the cash for both certs so may just do OSCP and hope for the best

>>60862624
please don't work for the state

>>60863611
I personally wouldn't, don't you worry.
I wouldn't pass the psychological evaluation or vetting anyway.

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Capitalism is the ultimate threat. No /cyb/ without leftism.

>>60862676
I find that as time goes on it takes fewer and fewer words to described my moral view of the world. I think I'm down to " its all fucked m8".

>>60863817
I'm fine with leftists, just not commies.

>>60863817
technology wouldn't be possible without capitalism. socialism and state power is the ultimate threat. and no there isn't an in-between where we need some socialism for the market to be optimal

>>60863853
Technology is only possible through labor, not the fatcats who exploit that labor for profit.
Socialism is simply worker ownership of the means of production, not "when the government buys you stuff."

>>60863853
>The Renaissance...
And anon's argument gets blown out of the water!

>>60863869
>Muh means of production
If I wanted ownership of the goods I produce, I would produce them myself.

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>>60863888
>I will produce a modern microprocessor or HDD in my garden shed.
Wat?

>>60863907
Exactly you can't can you? That's what capitalism is for.

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>>60863918
>Every time.

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>>60863918
Or a collaborative 'Neo-Renaissance' project? Not every has to be about coveting the shekel, Shylock.

>>60863869
prices are not arbitrary. they act as indicators and signals in order to best allocate resources. socialism doesn't work because you need to know market prices, anything otherwise is groping in the dark.

>>60863930
What a dumb strawman image. It's not like Apple is the only phone company in the world or something. The other complaints aren't even comparable to the first. Complaining about the lack of features (seatbelts in that case) in a product is not the same as complaining about corporate ethics while voluntarily supporting the company.

>>60863997
The flaw is that it reduces political criticism to consumption, and not the power structures that enable oppression to begin with.

It's like shitting on an abolitionist for wearing cotton, or eating sugar.

>>60863930
Just what are you even trying to imply. That society hasn't been improving consistently for the last 200 years?
>>60863957
Just because there is a means for production doesn't mean there is an incentive, and once people basic needs are met, What purpose is there to improve? I will give you one thing, you have a lot of faith in the ideals of mankind.

>>60864020
Well if you are paying a company while simultaneously bitching about their ethics when there are plenty of other options, you are indeed a hypocrite. It's valid criticism.

>>60864022
>once people basic needs are met, What purpose is there to improve? I will give you one thing, you have a lot of faith in the ideals of mankind.

Funny how this argument is always applied to poor people, and not the wealth hoarders who never have to work a day in their lives.

>>60864034
>It's valid criticism.

...that doesn't negate criticism of a company, because consumption doesn't matter at all next to capitalism itself.

>>60864059
> because consumption doesn't matter at all next to capitalism itself
It's one thing to criticize the entire system. It's another to criticize a business you are voluntarily supporting.

>>60864022
Give everyone purpose.
Those who enjoy hunting, hunt.
Those who enjoy farming, farm.
Those who enjoy mathematics, research mathematics.
Trade resources and services, instead of currency.
I have faith in humanity because that is all there can be done, we are the only animal known to exist that has any chance in saving itself and the biodiversity upon its homeworld from what would normally be certain uncertainty and probable annihilation.
My faith isn't with grounding, but with hope.

>>60864080
>It's one thing to criticize the entire system. It's another to criticize a business you are voluntarily supporting.

Not when it's used to deflect the initial criticism.

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>>60863817
Sadly this is true, but some people are just too attached to the illusion and will fight for it

>>60864083
I just hope there will be enough people who enjoy picking up trash and processing human waste to sustain a functional society.

>>60864083
>Trade resources and services, instead of currency.
Currency just exists for convenience. It's a pain in the balls to barter all the time. There's little you can do when you want something from the potato farmer wants something from the blacksmith, but the blacksmith isn't interested in 100 pounds of potatoes.
Tons of ancient societies developed pseudo-currency systems because of this. The Celts traded arm bands made of precious metals for things. Other cultures traded strings of beads, pelts, or even sea shells.

>>60864116
>It's a pain in the balls to barter all the time
I can presume with certainty you never saw the logistics of big corporations

>>60864112
>What is automation?
>What are robots?
>What is the purpose of technology?

>>60864116
True, I can understand the issue and that it might be rather difficult to then barter on your 100 pounds of potatoes to someone else.
I suppose the answer would be cryptocurrency.

>>60864110
You wrongly assume that I'm as devoted to capitalism as you are to your Marxist cult. Its a shitty system but yours is worse.

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>>60864112
"The world cannot exist without violent coercion." is a hilarious take, because the people who say that almost always oppose revolutionaries who took that to heart.

>>60864133
Bartering in a corporate setting during large deals is different from bartering every day for mundane purchases as a regular dude.

>>60849676
kill yourself and await to be uploaded to cyber space

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>>60864167
>Socialism/Communism/Leftism will always fail due to human nature!
>Defend a system that rewards and incentivises the worst aspects of human nature while literally killing the planet.

>>60864152
>automashun
We are clearly not ready for that and when we are I will be on your side.

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>>60864167
>as you are to your Marxist cult
typical plugged-in mindset, calling people names, tagging dissenting opinions by using red scare without caring if I am even socialist, moreover communist

>>60864209
I really don't think we're that far off.

>>60864202
I'm a leftist tho? I'm just not for violent revolution and unproven system when the one we have is improving all the time thanks to rational leftism.

>>60850090
>tv
>couch
>desktop and laptop
>no bed
>no shower/tub
Worthless. Twice as big as it needs to be.

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>>60849676
Are you sure? Maybe try these
CPEU2 - Cyberpunk. From fiction to fact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce53eICXREc
Cyberpunk Animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-fv_KR4bB8
Cyberpunk-Visions of Future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_WozJvfYwM
The Cyberpunk Manifesto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-xEQeuxn7M
TUN Cyberpunk is back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVO1HCNQ8M
Cyberpunk (1990) [Full documentary in high quality] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRwU9zJcT60
27c3: Cybernetics for the Masses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APOAmxFEMkQ
The Cyberpunk Educator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTqnzsRg_0E

>>60864183
rude

>>60864259
>The Cyberpunk Educator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTqnzsRg_0E
goddamit youtube, well here is a working link https://archive.org/details/cyberpunkeducator

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>>60864234
>Rational leftism
>Even centrist social democracy can't find a foothold outside of petrostates.
>The Earth is literally dying and we're running out of time.

>>60849676
play a cyberpunk game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj3O1yiZu_A&t=314s
system shock is fucking good and this guy explains the cyberpunk theme extremely well watch it all you fags

>>60863930
if apple were absent then those people would be worse off proven by the fact that they choose to work their in the first place. free markets are what lifts people out of poverty.

>>60864230
I honestly hope so.
>>60864215
Nigger, I was homeless for a year an a half. I ate out of dumpsters. Have you ever been so hungry you couldn't stand? I talked to a lot of homeless like myself. Begging, taking handouts, making no effort to better themselves. Yes I would say a good 25% were homeless out of no fault of their own, but the other 75% were absolutely content with living of charity and the government, and guess what that's still what they are doing while I'm building a career.

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>>60864334
>free markets are what lifts people out of poverty.

LMAO

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>>60864341
>Treats poverty as a moral failing.

t.classcuck

>>60864341
>justifying biases with dubious bullshit
nigger you ain't see shit

>>60864110
you are still in the matrix. you would give your life to protect it. i'm only advocating for freedom. what you are suggesting is state power and you don't even see it.

ancap 4 lyfe
enemy of the state

>cdpr get's hacked

https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/status/872840969795899394/photo/1

>>60864399
>what you are suggesting is state power
again with accusations

>ancap 4 lyfe
what you are suggesting is corporation power, and that's a fact

>>60864341
i've done a ton of backpacking being virtually homeless and i have to say that homelessness is mostly due to mental health problems. anyone that really wanted to could do as well as they'd like.

>>60864405
>hacker steals info on Cyberpunk 2077
How ironic.

>>60864399
>States are the only form of hierarchic power, we should give all power to corporations instead.

>>60864419
there is nothing wrong with profit and businesses as long as they don't use violence or fraud to make their profit. can you give me an example of the "corporation power" that you fear? only the state can kidnap or kill you for a victumless crime and only the state has the resources to pursue endless wars of aggression. i don't see corporations murdering millions of people

>>60864487
>implying
enough of your bias, don't put words in my mouth, if you want to see a clear case of capitalism abuse then google crony capitalism and stop defending shit like Enron

>>60864425
I would have to agree. The worst part is that the ones that need the most help are to fucked up to seek it. I just don't know how some of them got by. Its truly sad.

>>60864483
where else would you spend your wealth besides businesses trying to sell you something? what is so wrong about offering services? profits are not possible without voluntary exchange, what is so evil about making profits and being a corporation?

>>60864500
what words? i quoted you saying that what i'm suggesting is coperation power. i repeated that and asked for an example and you say that i'm putting words in your mouth?

>>60849723
after meeting corbyn, theresa may won't be able to legislate her way out of a paper bag

>>60849723
wonder if it would be illegal to hold the algorithm in your head, not written down
good scifi plot that
BUT WE ARE IN IT

>>60864500
crony capitalism is only possible when there are overlords that micromanage and misallocate resources, these corperations see their power and grovel for privileges and to install regulations for themselves for their industry that competitors would have a hard time forming against them. that is a feature of a powerful state to attract this type of behavior which wouldn't be possible without a powerful government in the first place

>>60864487
>Don't displease your boss or turn down his advances, or he'll fire you and put your family on the street.
>We've produced enough food to feed the hungry, but actually selling all that we made would destroy profits, so let's hoard the grain and destroy the excess produce.
>Actually selling the houses my bank owns to poor people would reduce property values, so keep the price high while homelessness skyrockets.
>Acknowledging climate change would ruin profits, so we'll use our money to stifle efforts to prevent it.
>We've found out our product kills people, let's lie to them about it for decades.

>>60864595
>climate change
If you meant to say "global warming" just say it. "Climate change" is a weasel phrase that could mean almost anything, including the next ice age.

I was against splitting the generals until this turned into political virtue signalling.

Let's make /sec/ a reality

>>60863377
Oh, bad wording on my part. I meant to ask for how long are you studying the subject and how much more so you can be considered employee material. I understand the certification part and how its a continuous process, i just want to find out some minimums.

>>60864595
the free market makes possible all of the wealth we see around us. it is what lifts people out of poverty. there is nothing nefarious about making profit and building a large business. i understand that people can be terrible and that is really sad. there are a lot of good books about how the economy works if you are really interested. i follow tom woods, mises media and reasontv on youtube.
"Economics in One Lesson" by Hazlitt is supposed to be great. i haven't read it yet, my copy was stolen. but anyway there are a ton of lectures on mises media that really condenses it. some speakers are better than others though.

>>60864670
nah

>>60864349
>using coerced economic slavery under a monarchist colonial form of government as evidence against free market capitalism

anon plz, you're better than this

>>60864202
so all natural deaths are caused by capitalism?

are...are you for real right now? Like capitalism causes old people to die because they're old?

>>60864202
>>60865224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uPdkhMVdMQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9H0CGgMnAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKWkme30gU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-w1FBbm8xU

>>60855393

network segmentation and acls at the router level will do the same thing. firewalls just filter traffic unless they're "next gen" which just means they are actually dpi nids devices with support for common protocols.

>>60859325

AppArmor doesn't do enough filtering and FreeBSD is kinda junk in other respects. RedHat makes it pretty easy to audit and edit SELinux policies and a grsec kernel should make it pretty secure. RBAC is better than MAC anyway.

>>60865478
>imblying these prices aren't a result of government subsidization of medical expenses and the bureaucratic bloat that entails

come on now

>>60865621
the guy claims that they are. ?
you aren't watching them are you?

>>60865643
sorry, busy masturbating

>>60865676
"government subsidization" you should instead use the term "taxpayer subsidization" to be more clear
>>60865676
:)

>>60865735
>>60865621

>>60864580
>wonder if it would be illegal to hold the algorithm in your head, not written down
*The* algorithm? Which one? Or just any?

>>60865735
>you should instead use the term "taxpayer subsidized" to be clearer.
Fixed.

>>60866061
thanks :)

Anyone else going to Shakacon?

>>60862445
>Where is the money at?
heres the thing

youve been sold a lie

there is no mad money. you do it because its the part of IT that doesnt make you want to kill yourself

or

or

heres the secret noone talks about

become a defence contractor

thats where the money is, but also the soul crushing work

you choose

>>60866226
>become a defence contractor
Been there.
>thats where the money is, but also the soul crushing work
Salary was a little below average.
Crunch time was like in the games industry: brutal.

I have no idea why the defence industry is so profiled like this. Also the F-35 project will indubitably tank an awful lot of careers. That regression in the radar suite is ground for beheading.

>>60864466
>>60864466
>>60864466

>>60866709
>the F-35 project will indubitably tank an awful lot of careers
If booz hamilton has come through the past decade without being thrown away by the government for all the shit their employees have pulled, a few shitty coders working for lockheed will be fine.

>Salary was a little below average.
Im very surprised to hear this. I get about 20k above market average for IT support because Im a defence contractor.

=== /CYB/ News:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40245539
>E3 2017: Xbox's vanishing virtual reality strategy

>Mr Spencer, head of Xbox, said the console, then codenamed Project Scorpio, “must deliver true 4K gaming and high-fidelity VR [virtual reality]”.

>The Xbox One X, as it will now be known, looks set to deliver on that first promise of 4K visuals. But on the second? Virtual reality didn’t get a single mention at the company’s bonanza press event on Sunday.

wow what a thread.

ive never seen full blown left v right politics in these threads before, and I make a point of coming here for them. i think i like it. free bumps, at the least

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>>60847777
> cyberpunk
> 1984+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
why not just call it a reality thread?

In the news, showing that art does relate to politics:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40244607
>Trump-like Julius Caesar play boycotted by US firms
You just could not make this up:

>In the New York-based production, Julius Caesar is depicted as a blond-haired businessman in a blue suit.

>In the Shakespearean tragedy, which is staged in New York's Central Park, Caesar is assassinated in a lengthy scene in which he fights off his attackers before succumbing to multiple stab wounds.

I think the mood is right for a new generation cyberpunk authors.

>>60867000
Politics is always part of /cyb/ though not as openly as we have seen in this round.

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What's your favorite and/or least favorite /cyb/ thing about the world we currently live in?
Bonus points, what's the next big /cyb/ /sec/ happening we'll likely see?

>>60867491
>What's your favorite and/or least favorite /cyb/ thing about the world we currently live in?
Favourite: that we get more opportunities. Or hopefully we will. Most generations have had a better chance than their parents though with the financial crisis I am not sure. It depends on when we get out of this hole.

Least favourite: A lot of needless muddling through things where appearances count for more than facts.


>Bonus points, what's the next big /cyb/ /sec/ happening we'll likely see?
I am confident it will be CRISPS/Cas9 the next 10 years. It will be /cyb/ plus biopunk. There are some seriously disturbing mil applications here.

A bit later will come direct neural connections beyond the vision systems of today.

Putting IOT to good use

https://hothardware.com/news/malware-infects-raspberry-pis-making-them-cryptocurrency-mining-zombies

>scans for open rpis with default username and password probably using shodan
>changes password
>installs zmap
>mines using your little toy that you won't notice is at 100% usage

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>>60867491
>favourite
I configured a cron task on my raspberry Pi which is acting as my DNS server by SSHing into it via my telephone while streaming Chinese cartoons into my television as my robotic vacuum cleaned my fucking house this morning, whilst checking repos of information for the latest in what's going on in the world.

>least favourite
The world is all about social media, and it's taken over the Internet entirely. Pic related, is my least favourite thing about the modern world.

>next big cyb/sec trend
Cyb will be the adoption of cryptocurrencies as legit sources of currency for EVERYTHING.

Sec might see the banning of e2e encryption based in particular countries. Will this mean the USAGE of these technologies, hosted in other countries will be outlawed too? I don't know.

Quick, what's the most /cyb/ approved distro

>>60847777
Sorry if I'm pestering, but was the irc guide ever completed? I remember it having some useful info, even in its incomplete state.

>>60868459
Net runner

>>60868459
Kali, obviously

>>60868459
Debian

>>60865915
fuck off

>>60864580
It probably would be if they had a way to look into your head.

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So I have a question, /sec/.

You have enough money and time to do ONE of OSCP or CISSP. Your goal is fundamentally to get into the cybersecurity industry and find the shortest route to making big bucks.

Which one do you do?

>>60866991
Cuz VR in its present iteration still sucks. Try again in 10 years or so

>>60869290
it sucks in every iteration, VR on its own won't be a standalone hit. Got a lot of complementary tech that has to get good before it'll be any good. Success will be completely unrelated to screen resolution or battery life.

>>60869484
I'm probably bitter as I was so hyped then I got the Oculus Rift. Man am I disappointed. It's a cluster fuck. Just to get it reliably working is a ritual of plugging shit in the right order. The games sick, it's uncomfortable, the fov sucks, the screen door effect. I mean on and on. I was expecting Snow Crash and got turbo Virtual Boy. Fool me once.

My aim is to pass an information security interview at a major bank. Whats is a better book than bruce schneier's applied cryptography? I have a strong math background, but little coding.

>>60866991
It's almost like VR is a meme or something

Really gets the neurons firing

>>60869290
VR is fine...
In driving/flying games.
The reason why VR isn't viable for anything else yet is because we simply haven't made the equipment needed for them, we don't have any response when grabbing a random object like we have a response when grabbing a flight stick or a steering wheel, and most people don't have anything that lets them walk for an undefined distance, whereas flying sims only need you to sit down.

>>60867944
Why is Microsoft so large? I might understand it if MSN and stuff counted as Microsoft, but that's explicitly listed further down? It can't be all Windows Update, right?

>>60863377
>>60864718
pls respond senpai

>>60865219
>If a power structure is involved, it isn't capitalism

REAL CAPITALISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED LMAO

>>60869643
>I was expecting snow crash
You're beyond retarded. I can't even express how utterly stupid you must be to have such high hopes for a first generation product from a facebook-owned company. Jesus Christ my man, you're on another level.
Did you even THINK about doing research for making a purchase like that?

>>60870126
>Why is Microsoft so large?
They got large by DOS and Windows and then they used the wealth to diversify. Ballmer and Gates were regularly seen as evil but not as stupid.

>>60864341
>Nigger, I was homeless for a year an a half. I ate out of dumpsters. Have you ever been so hungry you couldn't stand? I talked to a lot of homeless like myself. Begging, taking handouts, making no effort to better themselves. Yes I would say a good 25% were homeless out of no fault of their own, but the other 75% were absolutely content with living of charity and the government, and guess what that's still what they are doing while I'm building a career.
And suddenly you lifted yourself up by your bootstraps, and now have your own business that's prospering and you are upper-middle cass antrepeneur, and all of it's because of the sweat of your brow, right?

>>60872508
No, but I have a job, a place to live, food to eat, and some money saving up. yes I intend to do just that and I'm not hearing any of your defeatist bullshit.

>>60872362
I know Microsoft is large, but that doesn't translate to Internet traffic. Are people actually visiting microsoft.com to the extent that they're visiting Fagbook?

>>60847777
bump because this board needs some more of this.

>>60864341
>>60872508
Hobo life is pretty great depending on the weather. Like camping only with more scavenging and sneaking and creepy/insane dudes.

>>60872829
It really is. I started out with some money but it only got me 6 months, I had a bike and a backpack so I was a little bit mobile. As long as your not mentally ill, or addicted to drugs its not bad. I met so many interesting people too. Man do i have some stories to. Like I said in my previous post its not hard to become content living that way even comfortable if you take handouts. Overall I would say it was a good experience even though I got very depressed sometimes.

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>>60873128

Bringing it back to the topic though. What would you think about being a /cyb/ nomad? Its really my ultimate goal. Get some websites going or freelance, and just move around. I can live for dirt cheap ($10 a day ) and be absolutely happy. I really liked being on a bike so I've been looking into pic related.

>>60873235
Well you better live in some really peaceful place.

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>>60864334
>free markets are what lifts people out of poverty
what

>>60873235
>>60873266
Yeah plus actually living inside anything during the summer will literally kill you from heat stroke. Finding a place to park that at night, door open, and be safe from cops/criminals is.... bit extreme. Lots harder than just throwing down some bedding/tarp someplace out of the way in a park or on some accessible rooftop or something.

>>60872742
Since it measures traffic I think one should classify the types:
- autonomous: Windows updates, telemetry etc. Not much to earn as MS hasn't (yet?) started loading the update tools with ads.

- semi-autonomous: people using MS infrastructure for XBox and other things not thinking much about MS.

- fully interactive: Bing, news sites they own, traffic to companies they have bought etc. That is probably far ore diverse than the other big companies (Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Google)

>>60868459
gentoo

>>60873505
>news sites they own
That's the thing, though: MSN was listed explicitly separate from Microsoft, in which case I'd expect eg. Bing to also be counted separately, but who knows I guess.

It just makes me wonder if eg. Microsoft and Amazon aren't overrepresented because they count for hits to Azure and AWS servers, which would put the numbers in a different light.

>>60869030
OSCP. You can't complete CISSP until you have experience. You literally will not get marked competent by the company until you present your experience in the industry back to them. CISSP is NOT FOR BEGINNERS IN THE FIELD. It will fuck you over.

>>60849723
>download
Brother, that action would be UPLOADING yourboot.exe into my mainframe. Kindly correct yourself before I execute arbitrary code in your terminal.

>>60851487
>CISSP
>Candidates must have a minimum of 5 years cumulative paid full-time work experience in 2 or more of the 8 domains of the CISSP CBK

>>60863869
I think it's fair to say capitalism has enabled technological progress throughout history, but we are evolving now and the means to create are becoming cheaper and more distributed. There will be more and more entrepreneurism and more people who wake up and stop being apathetic consumerist trash that feed this machine, and we will crush the monopolies and conglomerates that oppress us through the shear economic force of competition.

I want to have a printed version of EFF's improved Diceware list, what way of formatting it would be suitable?

>>60874670
what are the recommended prereqs as far as certs go for OSCP?

>>60855411

should look into AI and Machine-Leaning being incorporated into Malware, still very early stages but very interesting and I'm sure will be more prevalent in the future,.

>>60876298
So, it would be adaptive to the enviroment and the defences you attempt to utilise?

>>60874728
If you pass the CISSP exam before having the experience, you are granted the 'Associate of ISC2' status, which automatically converts to CISSP once you have the experience

>>60876635
How hard is it to pass without the 'prerequisite' experience?

>>60864718
Not the same guy, but I passed the CISSP a couple weeks ago and am Associate of ISC2 for 3 more years until I meet the 4 year req. Studied every weekend for about 4 months while working. IMO, you don't learn much from CISSP, but it helps get your foot in the door

>>60876686
There's plenty of study material that will help you pass the exam. They say the CISSP is a mile wide and an inch deep, so you'll get familiar with lots of different topics, but won't go into much detail in anything

>>60876752
So CEH->CISSP and from there you should have a decent grounding?

>>60876767
For an entry level position, probably a Sec+, CEH should get you some interviews. They don't really teach practical skills, but they show that you are interested in the field and are willing to put in the work. Also they're on the DOD8570 or whatever the number is so employers are looking for people who have those.

On the other hand, OSCP is very good at teaching actual 'hacking' skills. But its not on the DOD8570, so some (bad) employers don't even recognize it

>>60876846
Sounds good to me, the salary is decent too.

>>60876132
Prereqs : learn how to google
There's a course that goes along with oscp, forgot the name, but you literally can't take the oscp exam unless you take that course. There's no hand holding, if you don't understand something its up to you to go figure it out

>>60875069
the what

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>>60864202

And yet capitalism is responsible for pulling a massive number out of poverty

Something communism has failed to do every single fucking time

>>60867491

We will see the Tasp in our lifetime

Bye bye heroin

Checked

>>60877463
>Bye bye heroin
wut

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>>60849676
Some of this list is shit, but oh well.

>>60877626
hey guy, have you got a list for /sec/ as well? id really fucking love that

>>60877450
>Something communism has failed to do every single fucking time

Source needed (hint: you won't find one)

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>>60877626
I just want to mention it because Akira is always brought up: The movie is good, but the manga is excellent. Really awesome art and it's got an interesting story. It also makes way more sense than the movie since things are fleshed out more.

>>60873235

>tfw they don't just steal your bike

>>60877626
Blade Runner is objectively the best movie of all time.

>>60864718
I'm still working that out myself

General wisdom on OSCP seems to be that the more lab time you do, the better, but I'm meeting a few more people to chat to them about it, see what their timeframes are like

>>60873235
I've actually heard of this IRL

Buddy of mine knew a guy from his CS class who lived in a squat and just worked as a freelancer from a laptop using a WiFi dongle

aye yo bump faggots do not let the one thing on this shit hole of a board i like die.

>>60870818
Do you even hyperbole, dumbass?

shadowrun returns; yall niggers play? loving the cyberpunk aesthetics

>"security general"
>0 references to REcon, one of the biggest exploitation conferences in the world that's going on right now
Really makes u think

>>60873286
Are you stupid? Hundreds of millions of people over the last two decades have been lifted out of poverty due to markets opening. China? Africa? Duh

>>60874804
>Muh corporate oppression
How are you being oppressed, nigga? Just like don't buy their products.

>>60877674
Are you fucking retarded? Your claim is so absurd the onus is on you to prove communism does nothing but get millions of people killed and oppressed. You fucking Trotsky larpers are some of the dumbest motherfuckers on the internet

Do I need to know code to get security jobs? I'm going for cs right now but am wondering if it would be useless to be if I want to work in the security sector.

>>60878854
>security jobs
Please, be a little more specific.

This really is like asking "do you need to know code to get computer jobs"

>>60878854
Yes. At a minimum Bash and Powershell. Python after that. It's really not hard to learn enough to get comfortable. And when you learn the underlying concepts of the first language, you'll pick the next language up in a week. Unless you're stupid. That's always possible and would be an impediment

>>60847777
>The pasta
Seems we lose a few links for every iteration.

>>60879617
Eventually itll just be links to past threads, and nothing more.

RIP, last bump for this thread from me.

Cross thread alert: >>60878052

>>60878730
I mentioned an upcoming infosec con in my area, got one less response than your post did (which includes this reply).

https://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/

Some half decent hacking articles here.

>>60877657
Seconded.

>>60878730
I for one can't travel at the moment, because of obligations. So...
>>60880049

>>60878740
>Chinga es gommy, hunest! :DDDDD
Wat? They're the most capitalist country on the face of Odin's green Earth!

>>60880252
Are you actually a fucking illiterate? Free markets are a part of the CAPITALIST STRUCTURE. Noone except you and your leftist LARPing buddies said anything about communism.

>>60878854
>>60878976
>>60878986
Yes. Regardless of the position, you should learn as much CS and general programming as possible.
As for the replyers, always encourage the uninitiated to push themselves, for the sake of future technolo/g/y.

>>60879617
What've we lost?

>>60880252
>>60880290
Could you two fuck off to /pol/ please? Or just fuck each other already, no ones cares

>>60877839
12 more days until the 35th anniversary of its theatrical release. Giving it a watch over scotch on the rocks to celebrate.

>>60877839
35th anniversary of the theatrical release in 12 more days. I'm going to sit back with the director's cut and a decent scotch to celebrate.

>>60880367
Amongst other things how to get into /cyb/, a list of main books and some tech like SDR.

>>60880252
China has been described as having Victorian style capitalism. It will be interesting to see if that political climate makes for good Chinese steampunk literature.


After all, Cyberpunk was a result of the politics of its time. Not sure if any other genres are as closely linked to political climate as this.

>>60857084
im assuming using a public geoip database and matching the isp doesnt fit your requirements

first you'll want a list of the ISPs that serve the area
next find a complete list of IP allocations for said ISPs (should be fairly easy to come by)
now you'll need to work out which POPs serve the area
finally, match the ips to the POP

be aware that many isps don't operate with one fixed subnet per POP, so the data is likely to change

>>60860999
IP allocations are public information, retard. You don't need to "pirate" them.

>>60869290
They need to pay more attention to optics. See
http://www.vrinflux.com/vergence-accommodation-conflict-is-a-bitch-heres-how-to-design-around-it/

>>60880513
I'll try and source the old copypasta, hopefully the archive has it.

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>>60880397
>She doesn't know

>>60880616
I read this then saw the picture of the author at the bottom. I want my 4 and a half minutes back.

>>60849723
they should ban every domain except tumblr so everyone can enjoy a place where gender diversity exists.

>>60851487
good luck, anon! tell us about your progress.

This thread is shite.

>>60881089
Do better then?

I'm doing my last year of CS this September. What can I do in my free time to set myself up for a job in /sec/? I'm already getting a "certificate" from my university for taking cyber security related courses, but my resume is severely lacking, having no related job experience.

My last hope at this point in to work on some personal projects, any suggestions on things employers would like to see?

> cyber

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>60881244
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13161298
>Came here for both: 38%
>Came here for the SEC and don't mind CYB: 17%
>Came here for the CYB and don't mind SEC: 17%
>17^2+38=72%
>72% of people are fine with the merge.
Anon BTFO.

>>60881463
Yep, /cyb/ has some neat aesthetic stuff and /sec/ has nice material in the pastebin.

>>60881742
This.
Since we're trending toward a /cyb/ world in which /sec/ will be an important skill to operate within it?
Might aswell embrace both.

>>60881463
still no opsec filling out spying ass internet polls

>>60881860
Of course, it must be the NSA trying hard to profile cyberpunks and l33t hax0rs.

>>60881881
Who knows, maybe one of them is the notorious hacker: 4chan.

>>60881881
It's just one of the major data/marketing/advertising firms running free services to collect user data before selling it off to every 3rd party they can including all spying agencies in every country anywhere. I mean, 4chan's already doing that anyway but why would you do it more?

>>60881902
Well, you know what they say?
>If you've got nothing to hide... :^)

>>60880452
>>60880462

Why'd you say the same thing in two different ways? Is this a new meme?

@op
pixelknot
+ sharing a 20 minute video of you dogging your sister
= undetectable encryption

>>60877816
Who is they? One of the benefits I found of riding a bike is you can ride far away from the other hobos at night.

>>60881463
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13161298
And BAM! Someone hammered in another 100 votes or so, results are now poo.

>>60884600
>151 votes
>93 posters
Whoa, that level of autism.

>>60882577
If you abort a post just as it is about to send, it sends the old copy anyway and then lets you immediately post a reply (often only slightly reworded).

>>60862445

If you get good at programming in Assembly, people will suck your dick to get you to work for them

If you have to ask me what Assembly has to do with security, you are wrong.

>>60884728
I did expect that when I set up that strawpoll, the clue was to follow the statistics until some spud blew it up. So by all indications >>60881463 is the valid one.

Interesting that about 2 of 3 readers also voted.

RISC is gonna change everything

Yo, anyone why might have an answer to the questions in my thread?
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>>60886456
That was a shitty movie.

>>60886563
Its too much machine for you

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Tune in to the shwayest internet station, chummers.

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>>60886989
was kinda hyped about radio being back, but seems to refuse connecting for me on both mp3 and ogg stream

>>60887198
Does this work?
https://lainon.life/

For anyone looking to get into cyber security as a career, if you think you would be able to pass a top secret security clearance you should check out the Air Force or Air National Guard. They are desperate for 1b4s (see https://www.thebalance.com/air-force-enlisted-job-descriptions-3344422 ) and right now I think there's a 20k enlistment bonus for cyber. They also literally spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on your tech education, and pay for a bunch of certs. Plus a TS clearance is a valuable thing to have on your resume; I went to a cyber jobs fair last year and half the companies wouldn't give you the time of day if you didn't have clearance already.

>>60887289
I doubt many here would work for the government.

>>60886989
>>60887198
>>60887261
Which Lainchan do you use, .org or .jp?

>>60847777
Guy in OP's pic is sitting on a literal kill switch.

>police show up
>just slip down and kill myself, then

>>60878740
Your argument is retarded, you literally used Africa as an example of capitalism

kys

Bought a VPS before I can get an internet connection that isn't SHIT and roll my own mail servers. An security considerations?

>>60887289
If you can add some linguistics skills you might get rather interesting work.

>>60887580
Some of us already have.

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>>60887716
S-so... t-there's literal N-NSA h-here?

>>60887617
ORG

>>60877450
>>60878788
Capitalism is what drags people into poverty, hard work is what saves them. You can't defend the mafia that is crony capitalism, and you can't attribute to capitalism each time people earn their step out of poverty despite the disadvantages.

>>60887261
streams on site seem to work, if I try to play the playlist urlsit doesn't, not sure why, used to work for me before, other urls still do. guess having a tab open is fine too most times

>>60887617
.org

>>60849676
/sec/ Movies:
>Sneakers (1992)
>The Net (1995)
>Takedown (2000)
>The Fifth Estate (2013)
>Blackhat (2015)
>Enemy of the State (1998)
>Hackers (1995)
>WarGames (1983)
>WarGames: The Dead Code (2008)

/cyb/ Movies:
>The Machine (2013)
>Johnny Mnemonic (1995)
>The Matrix (1999)
>Chappie (2015)
>Virtuosity (1995)
>The Lawnmower Man (1992)
>Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace (1996)
>The Terminator (1984)
>Blade Runner (1982)

/g/ Movies:
>Disconnect (2012)
>Antitrust (2001)
>Pirates of Silicon Valley (1999)
>Office Space (1999)
>Her (2013)

>>60887911
Wow, they made a wargames sequel? how does it compare?

>>60888037
>it went straight to dvd

>>60868532
>Category: Beginners
>Release Model: Fixed
>Init: systemd
>Flash preinstalled
>Java preinstalled
Did you just name it because it sounds like BladeRunner?

>>60887911
>>Blackhat (2015)
NO, i watched that movie and it was so unbelievably boring. Have you even seen it? there was barely any hacker vibes it was just shit SHIT

>>60888037
More modern topics, won't give spoilers but "reality is a bitch" and they somehow foreseen what the NSA actually did

>>60888057
>implying

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>>60888073

>>60888073
Was a lot better than Mr. Robot, and more accurate too

>>60887740
>S-so... t-there's literal N-NSA h-here?
Probably some slumming here. After all NSA is the largest single employer of US mathematicians and they are /ourguys/ you know.

As for me, for what it is worth, am distinctly non-spook, just worked as a scientist in a national (and thus govt.) lab as a post doc.

>>60888187
I don't believe you, Agent Smith!

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>>60888199
Don't worry citizen, we are here for the memes

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>>60854061
i bet /diy/ could do it, they get pretty into some of that stuff.

>>60888524
that would be interesting to see

>>60888415
Wow! 328 posts and going great guns!

>>60888524
Well yes, except from that they have developed this odd allergy against buried containers.

>>60888725
We're going to bring back that community vibe!

>>60880962
except if youre a male with no mental issues, then youre literally worse than hitler

>>60887289
>TS clearance
This is nothing. You need above TS. TS is given to the guys doing hardware repair on the base. Yes, its contracted out. There are 4 levels above TS. Positive Vetting Alpha, Charlie, Delta, Zulu.

>>60887911
>/sec/ Movies:
Thank you for trying.

This is not a good list. And its not your fault. This is basically all IT movies out there. There just isnt a representation of /sec/ in films.

>>60888067
get your wayback machine in order, and look at the site before it became "legit bsnsman". They were the most cyb aesthetic on the planet.

>>60889422
Cyberwar by Viceland was interesting.

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>>60888118
>Was a lot better than Mr. Robot, and more accurate too

>>60889437
i watched the first ep and was underwhelmed. felt like the series was going to be a platform for the anonymoose hackers to spread their views.

>>60889457
It wasn't honestly, it get better and the topic was pretty diverse, going things like Carbanak and the Iranian nuclear centrifuges getting fucked with.