/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>polaris card prices through the roof, no stock
>not even really worth trying to get into mining anymore
>NVIDIA doesn't support VESA adaptive sync

It is impossible to win.

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Looking for a decent gpu that doesn't draw more than 60w and under $110. Also needs to have 2-4gb of vram, any suggestions?

>>60836283
the human eye can't see tearing beyond 120 FPS, you dummy

>>60836305
suicide

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/PsKCnn
I'd prefer the budget to not go above $600 CAD but with shipping and taxes it probably will be a bit over. Would a lower watt gold power supply be better instead of a 500w bronze? I have a few old 1TB drives that I could throw in in case that makes a difference in power usage.

>>60836283
>polaris card prices through the roof, no stock
There's some fucking faggots on amazon.ca selling for $1200+ CAD. FUCKING $1200+

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Quick question.

Why are my benchmark scores so much better than everyone else's in this thread?

Best cooler for Ryzen overclocking?
Do AIO's have any possibility of leaking?
Gonna stay on stock for a while but i plan to invest in whatever is the best
performing cooler considering cooling technology seems to be advancing slowly.

>>60836583
>Best cooler for Ryzen overclocking?
A Cryorig H7 or better
>Do AIO's have any possibility of leaking?
Yes. Just like asking if any car will break down. That's a guarantee. It's not a question of if, but when.

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Looking to buy a 144hz monitor to get the most out of my 1070. Is freesync a meme? AOC monitors seem to be the only budget 144hz monitors with freesync and they are fucking ugly.

>>60836626
Freesync isn't a meme. It works... but only with AMD Radeon graphics cards.
Since you have nvidia, you have to pay 3 times the price to get a G-sync monitor
Freesync doesn't work with nvidia anon. Freesync is open-source. G-sync was made by nvidia and royalties must be paid.
>buying jewvidia

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>>60836305
I just settled for a gt1030.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137141&cm_re=gt1030-_-14-137-141-_-Product

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>>60836640
There is too many jewish tricks to step around when buying shit now a days. Thanks for the info though anon.

>>60836656
Here's a tip for the future: AMD doesn't price-gouge you on fucking everything unlike Intel and nvidia. There's a reason there are AMD fanboys.

>>60836607
Hmm, Cryorig H7 is only 40euros here is it really that better than Wraith Spire?
>Yes. Just like asking if any car will break down. That's a guarantee. It's not a question of if, but when.
Well, i heard about some corsair watercooler leaks which made me anxious, so when we're talking about
when they will leak, will there be any hints so i can avoid it fucking up my system? what is the approximate
time it takes for AIO's to start leaking, do they have an expiration date?
I also don't care about noise levels which is why i only care about what cooler performs best and is the most
reliable in terms of build quality.

>>60836215
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but current specs:
>i7 920 D0
>ASUS P6T Motherboard
>AMD 7970 3Gb
>3 x 2Gb RAM DDR3 1600MHz

I'm looking to move over to Linux as my desktop OS, but want to play games still. So, the best would be to play games through a virtual machine with GPU passthrough, but sadly ASUS fucked up my BIOS so it doesn't work.

What's the best way forward for me? Update CPU and Motherboard?

>>60836703
completely new build

I'm thinking about upgrading a friend's ancient desktop with an SSD, but he doesn't even use enough of the disk to warrant that. Does anyone know of a good SD card, or the like, to IDE adapter?

>>60836713
I see. So where do I swing, Intel or AMD?

>>60836800
AMD. The common recommendation is the new AMD Ryzen 5 1600 which has 6 cores, 12 threads, is priced to compete with the Intel Core i5 7600 and offers similar performance to the i7 7700k. As a bonus, the 1600 is unlocked as are ALL Ryzen chips so they can be overclocked. Just don't expect them to be overclocking pigs like Intel chips are. Current highest stable overclock on a 1600 is 3.9 or 4.0 GHz
The only intel chips worth anything are the budget Pentium G4560 and the Core i7 7700k since nothing beats it in single thread performance.

Hi fags. I need a GPU. I want to spend around 300$. Should I buy a 8GB RX 580 or should I wait for the vega series? There will be any card around that price? And how much would I have to wait?

>>60836866
>Should I buy a 8GB RX 580 or should I wait for the vega series?
The RX580 8GB is heavily recommended. Whether or not to wait for Vega is up to you
>There will be any card around that price?
Unknown. Minerfags have been snapping up all the AMD Radeon cards period. They're sold out everywhere.
>And how much would I have to wait?
For vega? Unknown. It's being announced next month in Las Vegas though.
For the RX cards to restock?
Again unknown. They sell out almost as soon as there's any stock. If you can find one for retail, snatch it.

>>60836864
One thing is that AMD Ryzen doesn't have onboard GPU, so I would need two GPUs.

>>60836896
I could buy a RX580 8GB Nitro+ at 280$. Is it worth it?

>>60836917
why two? Just one good one will be fine.
>>60836972
Do it

>>60836990
To do the GPU passthrough? One for Linux Desktop and one for Windows Desktop

>>60837010
no need. One will work for both. You can't run both OS at once.

>>60837022
Well I guess when gaming I wouldn't need a second screen, though this video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI

And you can see he has some sort of key combo, so I could switch out of gaming to the Linux desktop.

What graphics card do I buy if the only thing I care about is coil whine. 1060 would do, prefer 1070

>>60836726
maybe get an internal usb header and a usb stick?

>>60837164
GPU passthrough is a bit rocky right now on Ryzen, would recommend waiting a bit if you can. Most beta BIOS' fixed IOMMU grouping which is good, but a lot of people are complaining about poor GPU usage in games. It will probably be fixed soon, just keep in mind some people are having issues while Intel just werks.

>>60837678
Yeah, I'm a big AMD fan, but I wouldn't buy if I could get better performance from the other side.

Just costed up an Intel i7 6500, 16Gb RAM and an ASRock mobo for about £350. I've got other things going on so I can wait. Surprised that my i7 920 is almost half the speed of some of these processors. Impressive difference.

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Planning to build my first pc

advice?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cgfYCy

>>60836215
>1050Ti for low budget

Nice

>>60836305

750 ti

>>60837752
>Surprised that my i7 920 is almost half the speed of some of these processors. Impressive difference.
It's not really all that impressive. Intel hasn't given us anything truly new in 10 years.
That's why Ryzen is such a huge deal. It's ALL new.

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>>60836283
>not worth getting into mining anymore
You should go back and repeat 3rd grade math.

>>60836420

>1x 1080 Ti
it must be weird being poor.

>>60837931

Do you think it will still be profitable by the time you get all that shit online?

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Let's consider we have a monitor with only VGA-input slot. I am currently buying 1050 Ti with DVI-D / DisplayPort / HDMI. What kind of cable I should buy to connect them properly? Can't buy new monitor right now.

Just DVI-D -> VGA? There is also DVI-I -> VGA, should it work?

>>60837950
Not spoon feeding you when you should be able to figure out something as simple as this out for yourself. Dumb people deserve to be poor.
Luckily for you, my taxes will at least pay for your welfare programs.

>>60837950
I think he's boasting that he bought the components in the image from his mining profits, not that they are going to be used for mining.

>>60837963

Yeah no. I watched the original Bitcoin rush crash and burn because corporations built giant racks of mining machines.

>>60837970
>5 video cards
Yeah no that's a mining rack.

>>60837975
I didn't notice there were five of them, I just saw Nvidia and assumed it would be AMD if he was going to mine with that computer.

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>>60837975
okay, you're the smart one, sure

>>60837970
No, they'll be used for mining. 1070s are one of the best ETH mining cards unless you can actually get an RX570 cheap.
I also preordered 2 Radeon Pro Duo 32GB cards, $1000 each, but they aren't in stock yet even though they were supposed to come out yesterday.

I would not game on an Nvidia GPU. Shitty gimped image quality.

does the ryzen 1600 come with some thermal paste?

>>60838036
yes but replacing it with something better than artic silver 5 will helps temps a few C.

Cryorig CP7, Noctua NH-T1, or equivalent is good to go with.

My H55 motherboard just died. Wat do?

>>60837945
Enjoy your paper weight 4 years from now while all the AMD cards are still relevant

>>60838059

First obviously try to RMA, but if that's not in order you can generally find a cheap replacement if your motherboard is old and shit enough.

Be prepared to reinstall windows though.

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I need help finishing my build. This is what I got so far with the help of others. It's my first PC build.
My budget is $1,500. I want to play Dark Souls, Terraria, TES, etc
Any advice on what I got?
Should I buy an ethernet cable and plug it into the wall jack behind my desk?
How should I get Windows 10?

>>60838165
go here: logicalincrements.com
you didnt post your build either so we cant comment.

>>60838165

You could easily go under budget with a B350 Motherboard, a 1600 CPU and an Nvidia 1080 GPU. As for Ethernet depends how your home internet functions.

Windows 10 can be acquired through the usual methods.

>>60838260
Should the anon acquire magnets for faster acquiring?

What is a good Gold Plus power supply for the price?
Good alternative to the 1080ti? Would prefer AMD but the 1060ti seems good for the price, wanting to run all games on highest settings for another 4 years at least.
Good 1 TB SDD drives? Any brand i should avoid?

>>60838366
>SDD
SSD, my bad

>>60838253
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8

Oops.>>60838260

>>60838366
Try Super Flower Platinum King for the PSU

For the SSD, avoid any Toshiba/OCZ SSD

>>60838390

>119$ for speakers

Honestly I would upgrade to a 1080 anyways

>>60838091
This mobo is ~5 years old. I don't think I can RMA that mobo

>>60838412
should i get the downgraded ones for $50?
Also why should i get a 1080 and can you pls link me to a great one?

>>60838253
>logical shils
fuck them and fuck you retard.
>recommending the Core i5 over the Ryzen 5
complete an utter bullshit.

Is Seasonic Prime Gold 650 a good PSU?
I'm looking for something really quiet (whole system has one 140mm fan and no hdds) but their fanless psus are way too overpriced.

would a ryzen work well with a 1080ti?

I haven't built a pc for years and don't really trust amd

>>60838578
The drivers really hamper AMD's performance with nvidia cards.

>>60838545
Basically every Seasonic PSU is good.

>>60838578
Maybe when Nvidia fixes their drivers.
For 4K, it'll be fine, maybe better than Intel, but not as much better as it should be if their drivers worked right.

>>60838596
That's specific to some games and not specific to Ryzen, just 6+ cores CPUs

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>>60838665
If Prime is their best series why is it cheaper than X and even G?
Also how quiet are their <600W models? There's no passive mode in either G or S12G series but with good enough fan it should not matter, right?

>>60838396
any 1TB ssds you recommend?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/YxmvK8
opinions?

should i replace the stock fans on the case?
is there a better mobo option?

best motherboard manufacturer for linux?

Going to do the upgrade thing.

I already bought a Define R5 case because the HAF 912 is noisy with 5 HDDs in it.

Right now I'm thinking:

> AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
> ASUS PRIME X370-PRO
> 4x Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1x8GB) 2666MHz

Just going to re-use PSU, SSDs, HDDs, RX 470 GPU and so on so those are the components I'm looking for some input on, specially the motherboard. Also, no Ryzen 5 1600 in stock in my country for some reason.

>>60839319
>32GB
>x370 motherboard
do you really need that?

Are there Ryzen workstation boards with 7 PCI-e x16 slots?

>>60839319
>32GB
a bit overkill don't you think?

>>60839319
any problems with that case? me and a buddy both own it, and both of our front panels shorted out.

>>60838665
>every Seasonic PSU is good.

I strongly disagree and don't even try to tell me the Seasonic SS-500ES isn't trash.

If it's Seasonic and it says 80 Plus Gold then it's probably good. They are a pretty big brand that supplies a whole range of OEM units. Their "80 PLUS Bronze" offerings aren't that good.

>>60838925
Cuz ur shit euro prices. Use ur brain.
The 650 RM, the one that's below it, is often $50-$65 in the US.

That is the old prime, though. The Platinum rated one is their new one and the Titanium the even newer one.

Retards shouldn't even be selling the G Series if they're going to sell it for more than the Prime.

>>60839394
Oh come on. You know what I mean.

Their newer mainstream models, M12II and G Series and up, are all good.

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>>60839372
>both of our front panels shorted out.

Oh man, that's absolutely no good. Of course I don't have any problems with that case so far, it's still in the cardboard box. As I said, I'm still picking out a motherboard and CPU. I really don't like the idea that the front panel could short out.

>>60839335
>>60839355
32 GB is absolutely not overkill and anything less would be a downgrade.

If I need a x370 motherboard, on the other hand, is a valid question. It has two more SATA connectors than the B350, I don't like the idea of having to buy a add-in SATA card at some point. As for current storage, I use a 500 GB SSD in raid 1 with an old 750GB WD Black and 4 2TB HDDs in RAID5 in the current box and I plan to move / keep the storage.

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>>60839487
what the hell do you do that requires 32GB of memory? For me 16 is enough and i rarely get passed half that.

>>60839459
These euro prices are not mine. My ruble prices are at least 50% more shit and there's fuckall decent psus available locally.
Seasonic X650 is over 140 euro here while there are neither primes nor any G series anywhere.

Alright. How the fuck do I counter GPU sag? Is gpu sag bad?

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>>60839625

>>60839658
Is that required? Is GPU sag bad?

Redpill me on the ASUS motherboards, heard they're shit-tier, but can anyone clarify or correct me?

>>60839676
I've never had a problem but I also don't get huge graphics card. If you have a really long one with metal plating then it's probably more of an issue than with a typical non-enthusiast tier GPU.

Is there any reason to buy a GTX1070 instead of a GTX1080, even at FullHD resolution?

The GTX1070 didn't drop in price, and is sold for about 380€ here, while you can get a GTX1080 for 450€ sometimes.

>>60839625
>Is gpu sag bad?
My 980 is so heavy it crashes the drivers unless I hold it up. i'd try it out first, if it doesn't work by a GPU holder.

>>60839776
1080 is beyond overkill for 1080p, bt if the pricing is screwed up I guess go for it. You better at least downsample the hell out of everything.

>>60839829
I also ask, because of reselling value, which will be way better with the GTX1080.

And more and more games have GPU bottleneck.

>>60839776
The only reason to get a 1070 is because you already have a 1440p 60hz monitor and want to better ensure you stay above 60fps.

Nvidia knew it was a shitty value gaming GPU which is why they made it their best cryptocurrency mining card. Only miners and dumb cucks buy it mostly.

>>60840084
Still better than those Polaris cards.

No alternatives present

Sold my RX480 with profit.

>>60840139
Get a second hand GPU and wait for Vega?

Are there still problems with Ryzen + Nvidia?
I want a new GPU for 1440p and Vega takes too god damn long. It will be released at Siggraph which is from like 30.07. to 01.08. and only reference cards will be released at first, which means consumers will have to wait until probably september/october for custom cards. That's just stupid, fuck AMD.
If issues are resolved i will buy a 1080 since prices have dropped. Waiting for Vega isn't worth it. No custom cards at launch, stupid prices, bad availability and no game benchmarks, fuck this.

>>60840214
>waiting for Vega

Faggot

Why should I wait? HBM2 isn't for free, and by the time a decent Vega card is out, Volta is soon to be released, fuck off.

Going with the GTX1080 now.

>>60840309
why not TI?

Is there any reason not to get the 8gb RX 580 over the 4gb other than not wanting to pay the extra ~$40?

>>60840362
Yeah. It is out of stock.

>>60840384
I'm saving up money, so hopefully when the next production wave is done they'll be on the shelves again

>>60840359
Performance-price and peformance-efficiency ratio wise, the GTX1080 is the best.
I don't need a monster card, but I don't need some card like GTX1070 for the price it is sold either, cause by the end of the year it will have turned into a middle class GPU card.

>>60836362
Storage drives don't use up a whole lot of power. 500w is good for your system.

>>60840309
I don't see the point of waiting for Vega either.
HBM2 is way too expensive, availability is shit, Vega is delayed again and again, custom cards with non-shit cooling will come even later than that and prices will probably be above Nvidia.
Fuck AMD GPUs at this point.

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>>60840411
Stop being poor

>>60836703
>ASUS fucked up my BIOS so it doesn't work

VT-d doesn't work on the P6T? I have one as well, but I've never actually used the VT-d function.

>>60836703
Get a x5650, I think ECC RAM works on that board when paired with a Xeon. What do you mean the BIOS doesn't work?

>>60840561
>>60840881
I just check out what he meant about ASUS fucking up the BIOS.

They basically failed to implement VT-d properly, so it only functionally supports VT-x. There is a beta BIOS with VT-d enabled, but it's not publicly available.

Just double checking, to avoid static electricity, I just plug the psu in, leave it off, put it in the case, and touch the case every so often?

>>60841253
To avoid static electricity, fucking ground yourself. Do work on a wooden floor and bare footed.

I just install a new mobo and the M&B aren't working in the log in screen but when I go into the UEFI it work properly anyone know?

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>>60836215
>1070 - if on heavy sale-ish
395€
>1080 - 1080p@100-144+hz maxed; 1440p at lower hz.
495€

Question: Is this considered "on heavy sale-ish" enough? Target is stable 1080p @60Hz with possible future upgrade to 1440p @60-120Hz.
I don't play AAA at all but probably will play the new CoD if they don't fuck it up (again) and i'm fine with tuning down placebo settings for better FPS.
My system which i build for 799€: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sLKFnn
>tfw costs now more USD than i paid EUR

>Ryzen + Nvidia
I saw some interesting but older vids that suggest Ryzen + Nvidia doesn't work very well, is this still true?

redpill me on Cooler Master Devastator 2

or give me cheap but decent m+k recs

>>60841351
Either get cheap keyboards or get a set that will last you years.

>>60841361
im listening

>>60841376
Logitech mouse + Mechanical keyboard.
Or just get a Microsoft k&m bundle and use them till they break and then replace them.

The only reason to get ricer keyboards + mouse is if you need those fancy macros or LEDS.

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Redpill me on the Agesa bullcrap. Is this compatible with all AM4 motherboards or just some of them? Also what is the best DDR4 ryzen ram with no motherboard issues whatsoever?

I've nailed down most if not all components for my upcoming build now but from what i'm gathering it looks like AM4 is still quite unstable. Should i hold off still and wait till the platform smoothens out a couple months down the road

>>60841412
Agesa is just microcode update
it's compatible with anything AM4

>>60841309
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sLKFnn
there's so much wrong with this
>x370
considering you're budget build b350 would've been a better option
>32gb ram
Even if you multitask alot you'll rarely go over 8gb regardless of what you're playing and we're recommending 16gb just for "future proofing" reasons considering we'll have ddr5 before we have 16gb of ram not being enough
>250gb ssd
could've easily gotten 500gb which is better price per gb if you didn't waste money on ram.
>2tb hdd
could've gotten 3tb for just 20$ more and 3tb toshibas are considered the best value for money hdds out there right now
Well considering you've already bought all these it doesn't matter now.
Considering you're needs and your budget rx 580 is the gpu you want. If it is sold out everywhere where you live then wait
i suppose, you really don't want to get stuck into g-sync if you don't have the budget for it. RX 580 will do 1080p 60fps on
max in AAA games and 1440p 60fps on max in some games and others might need to just turn off those placebo settings.

>I saw some interesting but older vids that suggest Ryzen + Nvidia doesn't work very well, is this still true?
Very few, just google and sort by date being last month and see if any of them affects you. Most i think are fixed by now.

>>60841529
RX580 aren't available anywhere.
He could get 1060 6GB.
But yeah. Buying a 1080 on a budget planning on getting a 1440p 144hz monitor isn't the best idea considering those monitors cost $200-$400 more than their Freesync counterparts.

Almost always better off saving money on a GPU for your current monitor and upgrading GPU when you upgrade monitor and factoring in the cost of either into a total budget. Otherwise, by the time you get your monitor things could drastically change. If anything, Gsync monitors look like they're getting MORE expensive due to the lack of competition and how much suckers will pay for them.

How will a Ryzen 5 1600 + RX 580 build run DS1 with DSFix on 4K60fps? Haven't found any benchmarks for this game with Ryzen or the RX series (I know it's old).

>>60841691
Yes.

>>60841283
Only place with tile floors is my kitchen, and there isn't enough counterspace for the build.
I'll just meme myself and get an esd bracelet I guess.

>>60836215
>have 4790k
>see amd besting intel now
I'll just wait until the generation where intel unfucks there shit and comes out with the top dog $250-500 cpu with great single thread performance, then upgrade.

>>60841744
your innocence is cute

>>60836215
What are some good 120mm fans? I've been looking at the Noctua NF-P12.

Looking for a 2 x GPU mining rig. I might be able to get 2 x RX480s. I need the set up to fit in a standard tower case with good cooling. Any recommendations with regards to the Brand of RX580s, towers, etc?

>>60841725
Static isn't a problem so long as you aren't working in a dry environment and on carpet. If your entire place is carpeted yeah, get an ESD bracelet. Otherwise just regularly ground yourself.

>>60841785
*RX580s

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>>60841785
>Wasting even more money on towers and other shit
You only need the bare essentials. Something like this.

just got R5 1600 after I boot I got bsod in normal boot and can't use my keyboard and mouse help pls!!!

>>60841752
Why do you say that

>>60841812
The tower is for the landlord who pays the electricity bill ;)

I just bought all the PC parts for the first one I'm going to build myself. What's the easiest/cheapest way to get windows 10 for it? I'm not getting an optical drive

Running a 570gtx, want to upgrade. Wait a bit longer or buy a 1060 / used 970?

>>60841529
>considering you're budget build b350 would've been a better option
X370 was on sale and the only B350 i considered was the Gigabyte Gaming 3 for it's ALC1220.
>32gb ram
2x8GB of course, misclicked that one.
>could've easily gotten 500gb
For what purpose, i have OS and most important programms on SSD, rest on HDD. I don't need games on my SSD, most online games force you to wait for other players anyways and offline games already load fast enough.
>could've gotten 3tb for just 20$ more
Don't need, also have my older Hitachi for more storage and 2TB is enough for now.

Also told you i already bought this, i see no point in discussin the build, it was just meant as supplementary info.

>Considering you're needs and your budget rx 580 is the gpu you want
Lol no. Decent RX580 start at approx 290€ and are always sold out because of stupid miners. I also don't think much off the RX500 series.
RX500 is ridiculously inefficient and only performs +/-5% better than the 1060 6G. "Good" RX580 cards pull about as much power as a 1080 while delivering no where near it's performance.
G-Sync is stupid, true. I'd prefer Free Sync but since AMD doesn't offer anything that competes with the 1070 or 1080 getting an AMD is pointless imo.
I'd buy Vega, but Vega won't be released until early August and that's the reference cards only. Custom cards will probably hit markets in October. I don't know if i can wait until then, yet. If i can, i will, but if i can't i will need a new GPU.

>>60841654
This is also my concern. The problem is: AMD doesn't offer anything that competes with the 1070 or 1080 and Vega won't come until hell has frozen.
Also i don't need 1440p @144Hz, i'm fine with less Hz.

>>60841851
Get a full size tower with a lot of fans and a full size mobo which you can SLI then.

>>60841877
Gtx 970 is what I have had since it released, it performs flawlessly for anything 1080p or lower on ultra (gta v, crysis, witcher, overwatch, etc). Would recommend/10

>>60839658
My 1080 Ti FTW3 doesn't sag. And that card is a fatass.

>>60841993
I wanna play Doom / Witcher 3 on 1080 at 120. Doesn't need to be ultra, mid-high is fine.

>>60839211
>should i replace the stock fans on the case?
it's not needed unless you want something quieter or better airflow.
>is there a better mobo option?
yes, gigabyte is trash. pick either asrock pro4 or something from MSI.

btw. logitech g502 is a heavy mouse. if you play fps games like csgo or overwatch i'd recommend g403 instead (same sensor just less functions)

>>60842032
Witcher 3 at 120 is impossible, 60 should be desirable

>>60842029
If it's built properly, it should brace itself against the the case slots more than the PCIe slot. A proper backplate or a trim bar on the outer edge helps transfer that stability to the far end of the card.

Unfortunately there's a lot of cards floating around out there still that don't have that, and weigh on the slot.

is it really so that if you oc any ryzen ever so slightly, every power saving feature goes out the window as the cpu starts running 24/7 at set frequency?

>>60841941
I think there is no point in SLI.
I was thinking:
ASRock H81 Pro BTC Mobo
Intel Pentium G3220
8 GB ram
2 x Sapphire Nitro+ RX580s (not sure if 8GB or 4GB)
Should I go with thermaltake, coolermaster or silverstone full ATX tower (stealth/silence is key)?

>>60841889
i'm >>60841529
If it makes you feel any better, i'm also buying a gtx 1080 on monday and a g-sync monitor on mid-july, gave up on waiting4vega.
I understand your concerns about the rx500 series but if you aren't planing on playing AAA titles on 1440p Ultra then i just don't think you should go for anything in the gtx 1070/1080 price range. Considering you're in europe if you're getting gtx 1080 look into the gigabyte xtreme ones, i got a pretty good deal where i live.

>>60842122
That's not how power saving on ryzen works. If you install amd power profile cpu starts running 24/7 at set frequency anyway.

>>60842140
>Stealth or silence
Who the fuck cares. It is all about mining dem coins.

>>60842168
If the fucker is buzzing like a 3000 watt A/C I'll get busted by the landlord and asked to pay the electricity bill overhead. The same happens if my room gets way too hot.

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Guys i have a few questions:

-according to official documentations, old intel processors (like mine) can handle memory (DDR3) at only 1333Mhz, yet i keep reading how some use 1600Mhz RAMs with them (in fact i have such ones myself). Is there a BIOS switch or something? if thats all it takes why isn't it listed in the documentation as such
-even on newer processors i see that 2400 DDR4 is max, yet i hear stuff about 3200? how does that work?
TL,DR: is the max RAM frequency stated on the processors description is the absolute limit, or can it be bypassed by mobo tricks and stuff?

-my main problem with my current PC is loading times during opening/closing programs, and such, so other than buying an SSD, would it worth getting a best-in-slot processor (i7 870) and 4extra gigs of RAM, or they wouldn't make much of a difference due to thee inherent limit of the CPU socket (the above memory speed) (wihtout an SSD).

>>60842194
You are such a pussy. Why don't you ask your landlord for advice then?

>>60842150
Thanks. I'll see if i can wait for Vega. Actually want to because fuck Nvidia, but if i can't i will have to buy a Nvidia GPU because AMD is a disappointment right now.
In case i get a new GPU it should be good for a few years, that's why i consider the 1070 and 1080, even though i don't really play AAA titles or maybe 1-2 selected ones in near future on maybe 1440p.
The cards i've looked at are KFA 1070 EX (Galax rebrand since Galax does not exist in EU) for 389€, Palit 1070 JetStream for 399€ or KFA 1080 EXOC for 489€ and Zotac 1080 AMP! for 499€.
Idk but seems like the most reasonable decision is to go with the KFA 1070 EX in case i can't wait for Vega, isn't it?
AMD really shouldn't have gone with HMB2..

>>60841744
Inlel isn't going to get any significant improvements over the current CPUs until 2020 or 2021 at the earliest unless you count MOAR CORES!!!

anyone have recs for cheap/small/efficient builds that could host/run a variety of windows and linux vms?

i am looking at putting together a pentesting lab and am thinking a small footprint that can run a variety of environments would be the best

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okay, so how much of an upgrade would the Ryzen 1600 be in this case?
is it worth it?

>>60842344
>cheap
What do you consider cheap? Regardless, look into either Ryzen or used Xeon's if Ryzen is too expensive.

>>60842203

JEDEC spec says DDR3 should run at no less than 1333mhz at (iirc) 1.5v. One thing Intrel did is create XMP profiles that ram manufacturers can adhere to - essentially semi-officially supported ram overclocking. This is why you need to check your motherboard's qualified vendor list (QVL) to see what ram it supports at what timings, voltage, densities, channels etc etc. You will probably have to go into your bios (assuming you have a supported kit) and enable XMP to allow the ram to run at anything above 1333mhz

In a similar vein thats where the confusion with ryzen spawns from - fast kits are rated for XMP and naturally ryzen's memory controller is different and is not neccessarily going to work at those settings.

For your usage case an SSD would give the biggest gain as system memory is massively faster than any storage drive.

>>60842194
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Electronics_NA/Electronics/Products/Electronics_Product_Catalog/~/3M-Novec-7000-Engineered-Fluid?N=8704932+3294002021&rt=rud

submerge the computer + add a radiator outside your house

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>>60842212
More like a ninjew. The landlord mustn't notice the mining op happening under his nose. He's the type that fucks with the heating, fridges and lightning since our bills are included into rent.

>>60841822
>intel is in a bad position in the CPU market, but just leave them some time and they'll come much ahead again =)
No they won't, their architecture is 11 years old so they can't do much improvement on it as they already have done a lot. Their next architecture is in 2020, so essentially all we'll get in the following years are slightly different / identical CPUs but at different prices.
And it's not like they will try to go with better prices than AMD. In fact even if they tried, AMD could just put lower prices yet again as their much better yields allow them to do so at ease. I mean fuck, even their 10nm CPUs will perform worse than Skylake ones at similar specs as shown by Intel's own graphs. Intel isn't really going anywhere, it's not like they can just shit out the best CPU on the market. And the mess that X299 and Kaby-Lake X is shows how incompetent they've become over time. All they can do is lower price at this point, but Kaby-Lake X shows that they have no will to do that (disable iGPU, crank base clock 100mhz up and yet cost $10 more)
People thinking that intel can just shit out some golden CPU and be back on track again are foolish: they can't.

Where to download windows 10 pro iso?
Would getting the free version from microsoft and then activating with some activator upgrade it to pro?
First time installing windows 10, have torrented and activated 7 before.
>inb4 just google it
I have and obviously everything looks sketchy, would appreciate some help from someone who has already torrented and activated his win10 pro succesfuly w/o malware.

>>60842735

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

Hypothetically, how much of an upgrade would one of AMD's offerings be if I currently have an i7 6700k? And how retarded would it be if I upgraded right now?

>>60842802
Slight upgrade for games, big upgrade for encoding, compression,..., basically everything that needs a lot of cores, when upgrading to a 1700

>>60842957
Well the only encoding I do is with OBS, and it's not like I actually care about that even though it does hitch sometimes.

>>60842802
Only a notable upgrade on multicore stuff. Minimal increase in games.

>>60842802
Pretty retarded, your processor is already good. Wait a few years at least, there will be Zen 2 and 3 on a smaller process, and there's a chance Intlel will improve within a few generations.

>>60842957
>>60842985
>>60843039
Okay, I think I just needed that confirmation. Thanks senpaitachi.

>>60836215
Where's the 3440x1440@200hz?

>>60840561
>>60840881
Basically what this guy said: >>60841085

I've searched for that beta BIOS everywhere, but can't find it. Not even sure it's for the P6T or if it's for one of the deluxe ones instead

>>60843184
200 Hz? Why do you need 120 Hz? 72 Hz is way too much, can I interest you in a 60 Hz G-Sync monitor?

>>60836215
>CUDA/miners buying all RX570s
Nigga do you know what CUDA is?

>>60842735
https://datahoarder.eieidoh.net/msdn/ is the place to go for MS stuff

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Is this the refence 1000$ build for a bit of everything and with gaming at 1440p 60+fps in mind?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kJzmhq

The GPU is a bit expensive but the AMDs are sold out anyway.

>>60836420
Nice mins on that housefire.

>>60843746

Unigine valley always drops like a stone when transitioning between scenes.

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REFERENCE:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D9VNHN
>Swapping the GPU for something VEGA
>Possibly changing Monitor to something ULTRAWIDE 21:9, IPS, Freesync, and better colors for production
>Me thinking about changing it to Threadripper 10c if price aint too far.
>must stay within 3k usd limit
>i like dat keyboard, i'll stay with that unless other good brands have highly similar to offer (wristpad, extra button, cherrymxbrown, vol wheel, rgbullsht, and not too edgy gaymey theme) - saw one in recent computex that coolermaster is showing under glass protection is likely the one i might choose as alternative but its still lacking stuffs.
>roccat tyon/leadr is good but bit pricy
Is this good enough?

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Guys I need some help.

Just replaced my 7 years old i5 with pic related.

MB, CPU and RAM are new but the case and PSU are from my old build.

The issue is the system reboots by itself after playing for about 20 minutes. I had the same issue with my previous build, that's why I ended up buying the new stuff.

I don't think it's related to GPU temps, I had GPU-Z and Open Hardware Monitor to log temps and they maxed at 70ºC

The main suspect now is the PSU, it's 7 years old and I don't know how you're supposed to stress test a PSU to see if it's still ok.

>>60843990

Random reboots on non overclocked hardware is nearly always the fault of the psu.

>7 years old and I don't know how you're supposed to stress test a PSU to see if it's still ok.

Run either prime95 or Intel burn test (on high) at the same time as furmark. If that doesn't bring your psu down nothing will. That said I wouldn't want to explicitly stress test an aging psu - ESPECIALLY - if it wasn't a top of the line psu when new.

Over current protection is vital when testing like this and a shanghai street special can - and will - nuke your shit.

>>60843990
Yeah, high chance shitty PSU is the reason.
Buy new one and if it doesn't help just return it.
Or is it not possible in your country? Here we have two weeks to return any purchase made online.

>>60841993
Doesn't trick someone else into joining in on your suffering.

>>60841889
By the time you have money for the monitor, wouldn't Vega be out? They should be available in late september.

In all likelihood, Vega with HBM2 won't be great for mining. People would buy 1070s before them for mining.

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>>60844055
650W Cooler Master 80 Plus bronze. Entry level but it gave me no issues until now.

>>60844059
I can return stuff from Amazon, no problem.
The question is, are 80 plus gold or higher worth it?

>>60837961
>Foundation portrait wallpaper
Use DVI-D to VGA since that's what the 1050ti comes with. DVI-I is unnecessary.

>>60842608
If he controls lightning don't fuck with him, he's probably Zeus

>>60844332
>"As sealed stick was removed, lost or damaged, it shall be out of warranty validity!"
Chinks.

>>60843944
looks good

>>60844332

>The question is, are 80 plus gold or higher worth it?

Yes and no. PSU effeciency is simply a matter how how much juice it pulls from the wall to how much it supplies to your system (as naturally it will never be 1:1). That said for a unit to get rated to these higher standards it - almost by definition - needs some quality components that can handle the load.

My advice? Check out jonnyguru for anything psu related as NOBODY - but nobody - else does better testing than he does.

Still a good 650w unit even after 7 years on a system that pulls probably 400w~ shouldn't be a problem but then agai nI don't know if you've ran that psu right to the limit for 7 years straight or not.

>>60842370
a massive one, and its completely worth it

>>60843696
Get the Pro4 motherboard version for better VRM and heatsinks

>>60843944
>>60844439

>>60841821
Did you fucking stick an old HDD Windows installation on a new build and expect it to just werk? You fucking faggot. Windows does not play nice that way, consumer OS installations are not plug-and-play. Reinstall your shit.

(germoney poster)
I have:
3570k
8GB ram
R9 270x

I don't really use it for gaming, but when I do it's usually not that taxing, so far the 270x still works well for me.
That said, I do plan to pick up DS3 and Nier, and I guess I'll be catching up with previous year's and this year's alright/decent AAA games when on sale during the next years.

I've read about vega, is nvidia coming with something for that?
Or is it an awkward timeframe between the last rehashes of the current architecture (or whatever the fuck it is) while the newer one drops?
570 would have been in my pricerange, except >never in stock
1060... 6GB? a bit over the price I'm willing to pay.
I'd rather be close to 200€, instead of close to 300€.

>>60841856
download iso from microshaft
"burn" iso to usb
boot from usb in BIOS boot selection menu

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>>60844475
thanks, now better?

>>60844562
>is nvidia coming with something for that?
Volta is Q1 2018

>>60844605
Yeah, all good

>>60844562
just get the 570

>>60844605
looks good

>>60844609
Cool.
>>60844631
Not in stock, that was my idea otherwise.

>>60844658
then watch it, it will come back soon

>>60844658
keep an eye out on alternate.de and when it's back in stock snatch it before it's gone again.

Well, everywhere is sold out of RX series GPUs just when i was psyched up to buy one, i almost feel like it's worth saving up some more to get a 1080 or Vega now.

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>>60842399
thanks for the answers mate

What are the best FreeSync monitors on the market for the money? 1080p-1440p, preferably IPS and 75hz or above.

>>60844878
It seems LG are doing the best ones at the moment in terms of price/performance/features

>>60844175
>They should be available in late september.
>should be
See, that's the problem. We don't know when they will be available and how the availability will be. If there really is/will be a HBM2 shortage both prices and availability will be shit.

>>60844946
Which ones specifically?

>>60836420
>3rd gen i5
>3rd gen

>>60836671
but all the good games are optimized for Intel/Nvidia configurations. What's an AMD guy gonna do?

>>60843696
I would try to get a non-blower style 1070 if you could, those typically aren't very good at cooling

>>60844055
Prime95 diid nothing, but after 20 minutes of FurMark the PSU got shut down.
I'm getting a Corsair VS650 now.

>>60844605
Your SSD is going to be full in no time.

I'd look into a 4TB HDD as well.

Give me the best cheapo mouse that minimum wagecuckmoney can buy ( <30 eurodollars).

>>60845166
Have a 3tb toshiba already here, only included the necessities. Also I don't need much space, probably never gonna fill it up more than half anyway.

>>60845107
I know they aren't the greatest but I'm still thinking about putting it in an mITX build and I don't want all that hot air spilling out in a case with rather low air flow in the gpu area. Provided the case can even take a card that long.

>>60845131

Furmark is effectively a gpu power virus, so it made your 380 pull probably over 200w which in of itself shouldn't pull your psu down unless prime95 is running as well (which adds another 100-150w for your cpu getting molested by it). Even still that is only 400w tops all told.

>>60845131
>corsair
STOP

>>60839319
Stick to 2 sticks of 16
Ryzen does not like 4

>>60845274
prime95 wasn't running, it was only Fumark
>>60845300
why?

Which should I buy of these 2 options?
R9 290 4GB for $130 (USD)?
or HD 7970 3GB for $90 (USD)?
Both used, both come with a 6 month warranty, and 30 day money back guarantee.
Coming from a GTX 660

>>60845324
poor PSU build quality unless you buy the really expensive ones
here's an old list
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

>>60844959
They are supposed to launch late July. I think they're trying to have availability on launch for once instead of another 2x MSRP 290X situation... "by September" is the pessimistic expectation.

>>60845309
Ryzen likes 4 channels more than Intel. It's just it won't run at fast. But 4 sticks vs 2 at a given speed will be faster with 4 SR unless comparing to 2 DR instead of 2 SR.

>>60845336
check the memory brand the gpus are using
if hynix, good
if elpida, run the fuck away
elpida RAM has a high chance of random black screen problems that hit you anywhere between a week to a month of usage

>>60845336
Holy shit if you can get an R9 290 for $130 buy 10 of them.

>>60839191
Crucial mx300 or samsung 850 evos.

>>60845378
how do you know it wasn't baked in an oven to prolong it's life by a year after being used to mine bitcoins

>>60845396
it'll prob still mine after that.
I have one GPU that's unstable that still mines well.

>>60845366
I'm telling from experience
Ryzen prefers 2 sticks over four
I'm not referring to channels

>>60845361
The Corsair VS series is in tier two of that list

Is this a good PC gaming budget build for $650?

Includes a monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/htkGzM

Hey what's a better producer for graphics cards? MSI, Gigabyte, Asus or something else?

>>60845324

For what it is worth SuperFlower (and its re-brands) are effectively the best consumer psus money can buy. Delta make a few but they are not common.

>>60845426
No, it's in tier 4.

>>60845494
There is no one good brand. There's always a fuckup in every current generation.
MSI 480s were good, MSI 580s are no good.
Sapphire 480s were no good, sapphire 580s are good.

>>60845366
They are supposed to launch at Siggraph, but that's only the reference and/or frontier card, which is not targeted at the consumer. At least that's what i know. I hope we get custom cards with a reasonable price in september.

>>60845570
Uhm which brand made the best GTX 750 Ti ?

>>60845080
Stick with AMD oof course. Remember the R9 290 and how it was on pr with the 780Ti at the time?
Well the 780Ti is trash now, but the R9 is still viable

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>>60845628

The 290 exist to fight the 780 (the 290x was the titan killer) - the mere fact that generally a 780ti is what fights against the 290/390 now shows how well Hawaii has aged. From the 800GT to Fat Tahiti to Fat hawaii is the progression of gpu godmachines.

The next question is whether the 980ti or fat vega will be the next godmachine.

>>60845080
For 1080p steady 60fps AMD is fine even on newest crap AAA. It's when you go above that resolution that shit starts to go a little haywire.

>>60845621
Whichever made the smallest one.

>>60845653
980ti will be deprecated unless Nvidia stops gimping their old fucking cards every single fucking time there's a new one on the same tier out

>>60845653
>losing most of its performance to the point is loses to it's main competitor is somehow againg well
Welp, the nvidia shills have arrived with apologetics.

>>60845570
XFX 580s are good?

>>60845731

The XFX 480 GTR is the best you can buy - the 580 is most likely moreo f the same (i.e good).

>>60845731
Set a custom fan curve. XFX is ok.

>>60845752
Custom fan curve? I'm getting the XFX RX 580 8GB GTR XXX only RX 580 I could find that isn't the shitty MSI one

>>60845654
So Asus?

>>60845757
WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU BUYING IT FROM
GIB STORE NAO

>>60845774
Not US, sorry my goyim friend.

>>60845784
WHO CARES
AT THIS POINT YOU'RE BETTER OFF IMPORTING
GIB

>>60845795
They are around $315 in my third world shithole so adding shipping and taxes you would end up paying the same as on ebay, just buy a 1060 6GB unless you are mining then piss off.

>>60845831
what if I told you I can get somebody to buy it and then parcel it to me

>>60845654
Wait, why the smallest? What's wrong with 2 fans and extra cooling?

>>60845861
Search for Argentina, not telling anything more.

>>60845876
Because the smallest is the cutest.

my computer is 6+ years old and still going strong, but i think its time to upgrade.

i'm hoping i can salvage my psu (750w), which i originally bought more powerful than i needed in the hopes of using it for future upgrades. its 6 years old but ive never had a single problem with it, and it makes no noise or anything. it could use a cleaning but im hoping it will be fine for a new build.

i have 8gb ddr3 RAM that is 5 years old that i would like to reuse as well.

i also have this old piece of shit case that i would like to reuse, but i can buy a new one if the new components wont fit in it.
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

for my new GPU im looking at the GTX 1060 6GB
>https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600B-10M-Compact-Graphics/dp/B01I5O5AP2/

for CPU im looking at i5 7600k
>https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80677I57600K-Core-Desktop-Processors/dp/B01MRRPPQS/

for motherboard im thinking GIGABYTE GA-Z270-HD3
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128974&cm_re=GIGABYTE_GA-Z270-HD3_%28rev._1.0%29_LGA_1151_Intel_Z270_HDMI_SATA_6Gb%2fs_USB_3.1_ATX_Motherboards_-_Intel-_-13-128-974-_-Product

2TB HDD

250GB SSD

if i can reuse those parts, this would run me about $740. obviously more if i have to get a new case/psu/ram. is this a strong build that would last me another 5+ years? i would rather spend money for a quality build that will let me play games on high settings for a while rather than having to upgrade every 2 years.

i wont be able to drop the money on this for another 2-3 months. are there any other components coming out sometime soon that would be smart to wait for?

>>60845971
RAM won't be compatible
PSU will need grounding or else enjoy your 50/50 chance of sudden discharge at any component plugged in
i5 are worthless, either go Ryzen or go i7
get a new case for USB 3.1/3.0 headers and ease of building
check pcpartpicker

>>60845971

Modern cpus are DDR4 only (lol DDR3L) which means your old ram won't work.

>>60845971
DDR3 ram is dead. You'll need DDR4.
And no one recommends the Intel i5 anymore. You want an AMD Ryzen 5, usually a 1500X or 1600 are recommended. The $190 1500X has 4 cores and 8 threads while the $220 1600 has 6 cores and 12 threads. They're all unlocked an overclockable, and the 1500X, 1600, and 1700 (an 8 core, 16 thread version. About $300) all come with a decent cooler known as the Wraith Spire, which can handle a moderate overclock.
And yes, you have to buy DDR4. Ryzen requires it, and Ryzen LOVES fast ram so don't skimp and get cheap slow ram.

75hz strobed vs 144hz non-strobed? Which would have better motion clarity for TF2 CSGO etc?

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Is it physically possible to make a Threadripper compatible with socket AM4?

>>60846380
75 hz. Only go 144 if you have a sufficiently powerful GPU

>>60846418
>TF2 CSGO
>sufficienty powerful GPU

>>60846385
no, too big

>>60846385

Maybe - AM4 has best part of 50% pins unsused but 64pcie lanes and quad channel ram would probably demands more than that. Most likely AM4 would either increase core and pcie count before memory lanes.

Imagine each CCX being 6 cores on zen+

>6c/12 being the minimum AMD offered without igpu.

>>60846613
I imagine just giving 1 die a memory channel each.
And maybe down prioritise the pci-e lanes a bit since there is no need to activate all of them.

>>60846612
It could become a very interesting product if it could physically fit into there, and have enough power delivered threr.

I broke part of a fan blade off on my GPU while cleaning it, being a little too forceful That plastic is thinner than I thought. What do?

Not sure if warranty covers that.

>>60847085
See if it impacts cooling. If you have the broken part and some superglue, try to put it back together, set it overnight, and see if it works. Dont use too much glue that it dribbles down other parts of the blade or GPU

>>60847390

If superglue doesn't hold 2-part epoxy might. Given the relative forces involved if epoxy doesn't work it can't be glued back together.

Good AMD video cards? No budget really as long as it isn't too ridiculous

>>60847477

Depends on uisage case. The godmachine is 290x but that is an old card almost entirely replaced by the 580. Fury line on discount is still viciously competitive but vega is only a few months away and that hinders things if you are YOLO for a high refresh rate 1440p screen or going "always bet on the curry" 4K screen.

>>60847518
I am really thirsty for 1080p 144Hz goodness being able to run most games on ultra

>>60847617

That is a tall order assuming 1) your cpu can feed it and 2) the game can scale that high. A highly clocked 580 could do it but the likes of a 1070 is a better option.

That said (as previously said) some games simply WON'T hit such fps for a multitude of reasons - some hit engine stalls and others run into physics breaking bugs at such fps.

Hello /g/entlemen I'm going to buy this PC any time this week, what's your opinion/recommendetions ?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dhZNHN

I think the psu is a bit overkill for this build but I want more watts in case of OCing in the future

>>60847390
doesn't really seem to impact cooling, but wouldn't a broken blade on the fan cause more vibration and fuck the fan up more?

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I have a 144hz freesync monitor, should I keep my 480 or sell it and get a 1070? Upgrading to a r7 1700 soon

>>60847697
Doesn't have to always be 144 fps, i am just a graphics fag who wants buttery smooth. I do want to avoid Nvidia but damn, the 1080ti seems nice but a bit pricey. Not to mention i haven't cared for their practices for awhile. Otherwise i thought about getting https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-GDDR5-Windforce-GV-N1070WF2OC-8GD/dp/B01HHCA1IO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1497142533&sr=8-2&keywords=1070ti
Also what the hell is Strix and why do I feel like I should avoid it?

>>60847854

>Also what the hell is Strix and why do I feel like I should avoid it?

Ever since fat kepler/hawaii asus has a rep of slapping Nvidia coolers on AMD chips which has led to less than stellar cooling performance. Honestly if a 1080ti is on your shortlist given the amount of money involvced waiting a month or two to see what Vega is is a sensible move. If you were considering chips in a perofrmance tier (or two) down then the descision is easier.

>>60847829
Sell it and get a 1070, 480 is not strong enough for 144fps in most games (unless you are talking about CSGO, Dota 2 and esports titles since they are old and run on toasters). 480s and 580s are really overpriced right now so selling one to get an upgrade is a good idea.

>>60847747
Seems good.

How is EVGA as a brand overall? Also is MSI decent at all?

>>60836215
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W3jPWX

r8 pls

also, will this mobo be able to use all 3000Mhz of that RAM or will it be """"downclocked"""" to 2k?

>>60848018

Yes.

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What do you guys think? Getting another 1070 soon.

>>60848174

I suspect shenanigans.

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Anybody have experience with this? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3BG5450438&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

>>60848290

Jonnyguru goddamnit.

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>>60848356
huh?

>>60848380

http://www.jonnyguru.com/

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What are the top tier X370 boards?
>pic unrelated

>>60848473
ASRock Taichi / Gaming Pro and Asus C6H.

is Kinguin a legit site for credit card?

>>60848147

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ffd83F

Actually, r8 this one, I found some slightly more expensive RAM that will definitely work with the mobo to its full capacity

It will be a Gaming PC, ballpark budget of $800 - $900. I would really prefer 1080 gaming at 144hz. I'm not really looking for lower price or improved specs, just improved value (although feel free to take a stab at the first two if you see any changes that could/should be made).

basically pls help me to not be a dumb fuck, thanks.

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After about a day of research. Any improvements? I already have the processor, ram, and motherboard.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CCd83F
For keyboard: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2404

The wireless NIC I got came with subpar antennas, anyone know any good antenna replacements? Just need standard screw on ones.

Also, need a new mic, any recommendations for those?

>>60848822
Its ok

>>60848822
monitor sucks

>>60848875
how exactly?

>>60848822
whats your budget famalam? you might want to consider a 250 Gb SSD + 1tb HDD over 500GB SSD only

>>60848947
Don't really have one, as long as it isn't too ridiculous and reasonable. I might consider that though, why that combo exactly? And what HDD do you suggest.

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I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about with the RX 500s being out of stock.
I LITERALLY typed on ebay for one and instantly got this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-RX-580-XFX-GTS-XXX-4GB-DirectX-12-Graphics-Card-Edition-AMD-Radeon-Polaris-/132218495564?hash=item1ec8d6224c:g:EUEAAOSwfpVZN1kT
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You guys are fucking retarded, the price hasn't changed and you are all AMD shills.

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>>60848801
heres a screenshot if u naggers cant copy paste a link

>>60848984
>Bronze
Get Gold fucker

>>60848975
it's an auction for a 580 that doesn't end for another two days and is already at $260, are you genuinely retarded?
the highest biddings happen during the very last seconds of an auction and $260 is already above MSRP.

>>60849031
Is this to save on the electricity bill, or will this directly affect the rig itself?

>>60848974
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sRzn4C
check this list out. see if you like it

>>60849184
Curious on why you switched out the monitor and video card, this strix is 60$ more expensive but not much better.
>WD Blue
Was always told to avoid those.

>>60848618
Yes
t: person who has bought over 5 Windows keys from there and a handful of games

>>60848822
Why are you getting a 1080ti if you're only going 1080p?

>>60849181
Save on electricity

>>60849239
I'll switch the gpu back out, i guess i accidentally switched it.
>Was always told to avoid those.
lies. WD makes the most trustworthy drives, other than HSGT.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3v2Q2R
>also this >>60849385

>>60849385
I just want to be able to run games on ultra for awhile, I 1080p already looks good to me, don't see a reason to get 1440p. Then again, I have never even seen a 1440p monitor before.

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What's the 1700X of the kike ripper series?

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Is Threadripper consisting of 2 pieces of Ryzen, or 4 pieces of Ryzen?

I have seen images of 4 pieces of Ryzen thrown around. But that would imply Threadripper is 32 core / 64 thread.
That.. can't be.

I heard someone say Threadripper is 16 cores. Implying 2 pieces of Ryzen.

What is really going on?

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>>60849469
a 1070 is the best you'll need to run 1080p at 144hz.
>>60849473
8 core/16 thread Ryzen cpu. its a better binned version of the 1700, and a worse binned version
of 1800X.
>>60849502
Probably two pieces, considering how the pins on the slot are

>>60849502
Kikeripper is 2 ryzen 7. Ebic is 4

>>60849539
What's the 1700X equivalent in the kikeripper lineup? Not the flagship but sensible (in the middleground)

>>60849539
That looks like a slot made for 4 chips.

>>60849539
why the 1070 over the 1080ti?

>>60849560
The thing hasn't even been announced yet. So I'm not sure what you're hoping.

But the 4 chip version is definitely not the "sensible middle ground".
And neither is the 1700X in my opinion. Ryzen's middle ground is the 6 core 1600.

>>60849473
threadraper probably won't be structured quite like R7, for the reason that each Zeppelin die will have higher baseline power consumption from 1:1 clocked IF crossbars and actually enabled GMI links.

Will a smaller percentage of power at nominal TDP budgeted toward the cores themselves, there's not as much wiggle room for clock variants on the painful end of the V/freq curve.

This just means buying 12c-16c variants sold at 3.3 GHz or whatever that can OC to 3.9-4.1 GHz but at HOUSEFIRE power consumption levels.

>>60849613
TR is 2 chip/4 channel/64 PCIe lane only, anon.
Topping out at 16c and going down to who knows how many and in what core count increments.

Do water coolers require manual maintenance? Like changing liquids or something

What is the deal with the push for no more 5.25" drives? Are people seriously usb installing windows nowadays? I don't see how anyone can find this comfy.

>>60849662
>What is the deal with the push for no more 5.25" drives?
normies

>>60849539
>>60849385
What i mean is, alot of modern games on ultra still can't reach 144 fps at 1080p (144hz monitor), so how exactly is that a waste?

I'm trying to attach my Ryzen cooler, but I can't get the screws in the standoffs. I removed the brackets from the mobo.
The screws won't even move, do I take these nut looking things off the screws?

Gigabyte, MSI, or Sapphire for a 580?
I always go with Sapphire for AMD, but this time the other options are cheaper.

>>60849662
No one has baydrives anymore.
What do you even need baydrive for?

>>60849792
Any option that is available. Duh.

>>60849714
anything better than 1070, and your cpu will be bottlenecked by having to underwork the gpu. i cant really explain it, some other anon help him out
>>60849642
kits: no. custom: yes, every couple months/years
>>60849792
the best you can get sub $300. otherwise 1060 6gb or 1070

>>60850021
>>60850021
>>60850021
New Thread

>>60848975
That's a 4GB model and the worst one of XFX and also this
>>60849160

>>60848984
Don't get that motherboard, it's the only one from MSI with a different VRM solution (worse), get ASRock Pro4 instead, it has better VRM and 2 decent heatsinks (mATX and ATX both good)

>>60849771
This clueless anon again. Got everything set up, power the machine on, and..nothing.

None of the debug lights on my pc mate board are lighting up. Fans are all spinning, but nothing is going to my monitor.
Anyone know what I should do?

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>>60836305
gt 1030