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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine.

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/769497
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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I'm a little worried that since an Arch install is so minimal that it leaks security features that other distros have.

So far I've enabled uncomplicated firewall, made a non-root user and use sudo as little as possible. What do I need to do next for good desktop security?
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>>60739725

*lacks security
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How do I set my mouse to 1600 DPI?
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>>60739741
>>>60739741
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>>60739725
It depends how deep you want to go. What you're doing should be "good enough" for a desktop use case. You could go balls deep with SELinux and a bunch of security patches applied to Linux, but I really doubt you need that much.
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>>60739725

>>60739643
>>60739675
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Tried to boot my Antergos with gnome today morning and boot stops at this I'm pretty fucking clueless about that is going on. Plox help I don't want to lose all of my shit.
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>>60740055
>antergos
serves you right.

ctrl+alt+f2 and backup files from tty in the meantime.
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>>60739747
look up mouse acceleration with xinit
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>>60740510
xinput*
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>>60739747
What's your mouse sensor DPI?
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>>60740522
>>60740522
↳ Logitech Gaming Mouse G400 id=8 [slave pointer (2)]
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>>60740574
I asked you about your mouse sensor DPI not to your bragged about your childish gayming peripherals.

So again, what's your mouse sensor hardware DPI rate?
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>>60740574
Someone has written a replacement for proprietary logitech software you get on windows

https://github.com/rprichard/logitech-g400-config

Enjoy
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>>60740055
Not sure what happened there. Maybe you should try selecting an older kernel in Grub?
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>>60740597
>>60740665
see >>60740777
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>>60740777
>>60740828
Learn to read first.
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Is the following doable?

I have a very old powermac, PPC architecture. Wanna compile gentoo for it, but on another computer so it doesn't melt.

Just want to extract the PPC stage3 on my regular desktop, chroot into it, and do all the normal installation stuff except for actually installing a bootloader.

Then I want to somehow put that entire installation in a tarball and extract it inside the PPC computer. Is this possible?
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>>60740908
Offsite compiling is entirely doable but not exactly how you described it.
What you're looking for is probably https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distcc/Cross-Compiling
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>>60740908
you cannot chroot into a completely different architecture.

what you should try is creating a PPC gcc with crossdev, identical to the one in the PPC stage3 tarball then set up distcc.

Alternatively, if you have a really good computer, you can set up a PPC VM with qemu and do things there.
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>>60740948
>>60740956
sounds too hard, I think I'll just slap debian on it and call it a day
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSF_Free_Software_Awards#Advancement_of_Free_Software_award

#FSFSoWhite
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Which application is the fancy digital lm-sensor front end that I've seen?
I'm using psensor but I'd like to be able to see the temps at a glance at the system tray.
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>>60741084
Consider dev-1.org, fight for the cause.
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I wanna switch to linux, what's a decent distro that's not entirely shit?
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>>60741232
Most of the good distros are not that user friendly these days.
So at the moment if you want an easy time just trying stuff out without much headache then you're going to have to settle

I'm hopeful that soon we'll get some good distros that are favorites of both advanced users and noobs as well again.

So anyways. It depends on whether you want "just werks" or if you're the type who doesn't mind trial and error learning on a more advanced distro.
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>>60741232
Trisquel
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>>60741232
gentoo is the most beginner friendly distro
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>>60741232
install ubunut
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>>60741123
xfce has both a taskbar sensors plugin and a sensors app.
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>>60741232
xubuntu minimal + linux-libre kernel
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>>60741232
Source Mage GNU/Linux
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>>60741793
what about systemd?
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>>60739725
Firejail, MAC of some sort (SELinux, Apparmor), create a separate user for certain vulnerable applications (Firefox, PDF reader) and run each application as it's own user.
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>>60741232
Don't let these guys meme you into using Ubuntu or Fedora, complete garbage and impossibly hard to set up and configure. Gentoo is fantastic for beginners because if it's detailed and user friendly guide, It literally holds your hand through every step
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>>60742000
what about it
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Why is tar.gz better than .zip?
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im putting debian jessieon a machine for a friend because lel stabilaty i guess. ive never used debian before. is there a list of main repos somewhere? i cannot fucking find where audacity is
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>>60742492
lel
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>>60742436
different tools for different purposes.

Somtimes zip is more conveninent, sometimes tar.gz can compress the same data to a smaller archive. Also gz is fully libre while zip allows proprietary extensions, which zip software makers utilized in the past without proper documentation so other zip packers could not handle their archives.

>>60742492
it is right in the main repo:
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/audacity
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>>60742436
tar saves permissions
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>>60742000
>>60742310
well, it werks
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>>60743048
except when it doesn't amirite Lenny
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anyone ever use dynebolic or musix? id like to be free software guy for my music projects, but they look like total clusterfucks compared to just using gayrageband or ableton. i primarily record live instruments, midi shit is absolutely minimal.
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>>60743062
b-but most of time werks (for me™)
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>>60742000
is it even possible to change systemd to other init on *ubuntu?
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>>60743540
Why wouldn't it?
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>>60743540
I think ubuntu still has some minimal support for upstart. Besides that, you are out of luck.
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>>60739688
At the risk of starting an argument, has anybody tried Wayland? Is it nice? Is it faster? Are there any compatibility issues?

I ask because I'm playing around with gentoo again on an old laptop (RAM<2GB) and I'm thinking about installing sway with Weyland and I'm wondering if anyone else has given it a go yet.

Please can we not flame about this? Just an honest discussion.
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>>60744130
Not gonna bother with it as long as my WM won' either.
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>>60744130
why would a flamewar happen over wayland
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>>60744130
Wayland is shit and you still have to use an xorg compatibility layer to use any modern software.

Give wayland another 20 years and it MAY be up to standard
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running ubuntu 16.04, internet is running insanely slow, and desktop keeps freezing and the only way to use it is it to force shutdown then turn on the system again, help?
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How can I enable tap to click on Arch-Gnome DE?
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which linux distro should I install on windows 10?
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>>60744541
GuixSD
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>>60744541
You can't install Linux on Windows you fucking retard.
>thumbnail frog
>>>/r/eddit
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>>60744541
FreeBSD Linux
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>>60744610
>you can't install linux on Windows you fucking retard.
Lurk moar, newfag.
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I installed Kubuntu on my HP Elitebook 840, and when I boot there is a 10 second delay between the hp logo and the kubuntu logo.

Anybody know what this is about?
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>>60744744
try gentoo
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>>60744743
nice meme
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>>60744780
I can't, I'm a newfag

In dmesg I see the following error:
>efi requested map not found

Is this causing the delay?
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>latest kernel giving panics with nouveau
>forced to use the proprietary driver

Feels dirty as fuck. Also, this:

[   19.257015] NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console
[ 19.257019] NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver
[ 19.257021] NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console
[ 19.257023] NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in
[ 19.257025] NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported.
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>>60744819
linux?
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>>60744743
You can't, you install GNU on Windows.
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>>60744851
yeah linux
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>>60744851

Yes, the Linux kernel.
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>>60744851
NVIDIA Linux
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>>60744188
But I kind of do want to bother, on paper wayland sounds like such a great idea, especially when compared to X11. It would just be nice to hear from somebody who's crawled down the rabbit hole before.
>>60744235
I don't want to wait 20 years, I want the future now. What is wrong with wayland anyway? It's been like 10 years and we're still all running X servers.
>>60744210
I don't know, there just seem to be few things as inflammatory as text editors, init systems, display servers and arch.
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>>60744900
what kernel is the linux kernel?
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>>60744937
the operating system that linus tech tips invented in 2006
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How do I create a persistent GNU/Linux live pen drive on Mac OS?
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>>60744937
The Linux kernel is speacial; it's a set of small servers, called GNU Hurd with its core, GNU Mach.
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>>60744959
>>60744973
thanks
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>>60744937

https://www.kernel.org/
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>>60744960
macOS is malware, you should delete it.
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>>60745048
So, help me do that.
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try searching the web for a screen tutorial
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>>60739688
Why aren't you using libreboot or coreboot.
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>>60745108
I'm a normie and don't know how.
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>>60745084
sure ok!
thanks bro, have an upvote
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>>60745084
Are you serious? Search for "gnu screen".
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>>60745139
wow I'm dumb... thank
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Why is it taking so long for my laptop to boot?

https://pastebin.com/Jvhb1eGe
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>>60745201

systemd-analyze blame
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>We can have a much more great footage if we change the way we look for UFO's. The UFO Detector program allows anyone to monitor the skies day and night for unidentifiable objects. All you need is a computer with a USB camera.
http://ufoid.net/
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>he isn't addicted to aislreriot and its games
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>>60741232
https://elementary.io/
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>>60745223
Thanks

3.028s iio-sensor-proxy.service
620ms dev-mapper-kubuntu\x2d\x2dvg\x2droot.device
315ms systemd-resolved.service
221ms networking.service
221ms lvm2-monitor.service
184ms accounts-daemon.service
147ms ModemManager.service
129ms systemd-rfkill.service
116ms systemd-logind.service
114ms systemd-timesyncd.service
112ms plymouth-quit.service
107ms keyboard-setup.service
106ms irqbalance.service
92ms grub-common.service
79ms upower.service
70ms apport.service
67ms pppd-dns.service
65ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
65ms gpu-manager.service
59ms apparmor.service
44ms alsa-restore.service
42ms udisks2.service
40ms systemd-udevd.service
37ms packagekit.service
35ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0001\x2d8822.service
35ms systemd-journald.service
34ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
28ms systemd-modules-load.service
28ms polkit.service
26ms rsyslog.service
26ms systemd-user-sessions.service
26ms avahi-daemon.service
25ms resolvconf.service
24ms snapd.autoimport.service
22ms bluetooth.service
18ms ureadahead-stop.service
17ms [email protected]
15ms wpa_supplicant.service
15ms [email protected]
14ms plymouth-start.service
12ms ufw.service
12ms plymouth-read-write.service
10ms dev-hugepages.mount
9ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
9ms systemd-sysctl.service
8ms dev-mapper-kubuntu\x2d\x2dvg\x2dswap_1.swap
8ms systemd-remount-fs.service
7ms kmod-static-nodes.service

Now what?
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>>60745259
stop
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>>60745280
why?
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>>60745261
Tell me how less than 5 seconds is a long time
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>>60745287
botnet
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>>60745363
It takes more than 20 seconds to actually boot
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>>60745375

systemd-analyze
How long does the kernel take?
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>>60745375
my goodness, 20 seconds.
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>>60745389
>Startup finished in 2.245s (firmware) + 3.854s (loader) + 11.038s (kernel) + 1.459s (userspace) = 18.599s
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>>60745413

I don't know much about startup times, but I don't think that 10 seconds for the kernel is normal.

Here's mine on a 7200rpm hard drive and "standard and normal" setup (no fancy kernel configuration or hardware):
Startup finished in 5.152s (kernel) + 12.035s (userspace) = 17.188s
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>>60745413
you should download the kernel sources, configure it to remove the crap you don't need and then re-compile & install it.
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>>60745457
Mate, it's my second day on Linux
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>>60745440
Startup finished in 20.705s (firmware) + 1.513s (loader) + 12.214s (kernel) + 15.015s (userspace) = 49.448s

Don't be mean
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I changed a setting that I can't remember on my KDE and now when I log in it freezes and I can't do anything so I had to make a guest account through a TTY terminal

I'm fucking tired of breaking shit on KDE and linux in general, it's a shit kernel and a shit userspace, and I'm bootstrapping my own system on a FPGA, but because of this unix cancer everything is developed for it so we're all stuck with this piece of shit for general development, driver support, and ever changing web technologies, and since I don't plan on wasting time learning another desktop environment, how do I figure out what's wrong with my KDE (4)
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>>60745474
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>>60745615
delet this
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>>60739688
I've installed PowerTop, but every time i switch the regulation to positive they don't get saved after restart? Anyone know how to fix this? (I'm using Ubuntu)
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>>60745611
>this unix cancer
wut
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>>60745615
I thought I was on the friendly linux thread, not the ironic linux thread.

Anyway, I see in dmesg that
>ACPI : EC: EC started
is followed by seven seconds of nothing

Is this the issue?
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>>60745691
Actually it's the Friendly GNU/Linux thread.
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>>60745611
Protip:
If you want ANY operating system to be better than it already is, what you need to do is quit being such a little bitch and tell people to start using it. If every windows user was forced to use GNU/Linux then all your problems would be solved within a month due to the massive demand.

Nobody said it's perfect, but I'd rather have something flawed on the surface which is much more elegant under the hood, than to have something that's absolute shit under the hood and has enough bandaids on the surface to appear decent (like windows)
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How frequent are kernel updates (if they are even called that)?

I plan on purchasing a Ryzen system soon and it seems that not all functions of it are supported yet.
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>>60745611
>I'm a brainlet who would rather blame KDE than my low intelligence for my problems.
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>>60745790
which one?
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>>60745790
every 2-3 months is a mainline kernel release
https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html
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>>60745816
1700
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>>60745735

>If you want ANY operating system to be better than it already is, what you need to do is quit being such a little bitch and tell people to start using it.

Nope I can't endorse Linux as a product, there were better operating systems in the past, like Genera, the chipsets Linux are built for are commodity computers for people who don't understand engineering

>If every windows user was forced to use GNU/Linux then all your problems would be solved within a month due to the massive demand.

LOL, you vastly misunderstand the problems of Linux, which are inherent to any Unix clone, go play with an FPGA

>than to have something that's absolute shit under the hood and has enough bandaids on the surface to appear decent (like windows)

"at least its not windows" is not a valid endorsement of Linux

>>60745802

"friendly linux thread" my ass, I'm just trying to find out how to debug KDE 4
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>>60745850
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60745868

vI'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60745850
linux isn't a unix clone
linux is a unix-compatible kernel
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>>60745886

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60745850
>LOL
facebook please leave
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>>60745900

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60745850
So what do you want us to do then?

Surely not just all go install Windows or Mac right? BSD?

What OS would you have us support? If your whole argument is that GNU/Linux isn't perfect then you're kind of wasting your time because we all know that already. Maybe to different degrees, but we can still agree on that.
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Anyone have DNS Leak Issues with OpenVPN and Ubuntu based systems? I'm using Kubuntu and it looks like what's happening is when I connect to my VPN of choice the /etc/resolve.conf isn't properly changing my DNS so that all my DNS queries are routed through the VPN.

I can manually change my opvn file to include
script-security 2
up /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf
down /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf
but then I have to start openVPN from my console which is a pain in the dick. I'd rather just connect to it through my Network Manager
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>>60745894
>>60745882
>>60745910
>being this mad
calm ur jimmies
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>>60745910
>>60745894>>60745918
>>60745914


I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60745850
install gentoo
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>>60745926
I said GNU/Linux you double nigger
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>>60745926

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
>Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
>There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60745915
It's a known(read:old as fuck) bug in Ubuntu and I guess all Ubuntu based systems. It's been an issue since Ubuntu 13.04

>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvpn/+bug/1211110
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>>60745938
>>60745926
>>60745910
>>60745894
>>60745882
stop
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>>60745933

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>60745948
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60745953
>they don't help me with my stupid "problem"
>lol, I'll spam their thread, that will show them
12 year old confirmed
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>>60745965

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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How can I patch the linux kernel with a tar.gz patch?
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>>60746004
Download the source. Extract the archive. Apply the patch. Recompile. Iinstall.
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>>60746013
>>60746023

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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I know exactly what this guy's problem is and I know exactly what the fix is because I encountered this bug before but I'm not going to tell anyone because he's a cumguzzling faggot that can't fucking read.
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>>60746054

how friendly

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60746017
>Download the source.
Done
> Extract the archive.
Done
> Apply the patch.
Applied
Recompile.
recompiled
Iinstall.
That's where I'm stuck
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>>60746057

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60746055
>how friendly
suck it
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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I'd rather let this entire thread go to shit than help you just because it's hilarious.

Stay mad
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Ich möchte nur einen Augenblick einspielen. Was Sie als Linux bezeichnen, ist in der Tat, GNU / Linux, oder wie ich es vor kurzem gemacht habe, es zu nennen, GNU und Linux. Linux ist kein Betriebssystem für sich selbst, sondern eine weitere freie Komponente eines voll funktionsfähigen GNU-Systems, das von den GNU-Corelibs, Shell-Utilities und Vital-Systemkomponenten, die ein volles Betriebssystem wie von POSIX definiert haben, nützlich gemacht hat.

Viele Computerbenutzer laufen jeden Tag eine modifizierte Version des GNU-Systems, ohne es zu merken. Durch eine eigenartige Wendung wird die Version von GNU, die heute weit verbreitet ist, oft als "Linux" bezeichnet, und viele ihrer Benutzer sind sich nicht bewusst, dass es im Grunde genommen das GNU-System ist, das vom GNU-Projekt entwickelt wurde.

Es gibt wirklich ein Linux, und diese Leute benutzen es, aber es ist nur ein Teil des Systems, das sie benutzen. Linux ist der Kernel: das Programm im System, das die Ressourcen der Maschine den anderen Programmen zuordnet, die Sie ausführen. Der Kern ist ein wesentlicher Bestandteil eines Betriebssystems, aber von selbst nutzlos; Es kann nur im Rahmen eines kompletten Betriebssystems funktionieren. Linux wird normalerweise in Kombination mit dem GNU-Betriebssystem verwendet: Das ganze System ist grundsätzlich GNU mit Linux hinzugefügt oder GNU / Linux. Alle so genannten "Linux" -Verteilungen sind wirklich Distributionen von GNU / Linux.
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Ou te le na fia interject mo sina taimi. Mea o loo e faatatau i ai e pei Linux, o le mea moni, GNU / Linux, po o ou talu ai nei aveina i le valaau atu ai, GNU faaopoopo Linux. Linux e le o se faiga e faagaoioia ia te ia lava, ae o le isi vaega e aunoa ma se faiga GNU atoatoa faagaoioia faia aoga e le corelibs GNU, atigi aogā ma vaega faiga taua e aofia ai se OS atoa e pei ona faamatalaina e POSIX.

E toatele tagata e faaaogaina komepiuta taufetuli se lomiga toe teuteuina o le faiga GNU aso uma, e aunoa ma le iloaina ai. E ala i se taimi uiga ese o mea na tutupu, o le lomiga o GNU ua lautele faaaogaina i aso nei e masani ona taʻua "Linux", ma e le o iloa e le tele o ona tagata e faaaogaina e faapea e aupito i le faiga GNU, atiina ae e ala i le Galuega Faatino o GNU.

E moni lava o se Linux, ma ua i nei tagata e faaaoga i ai, ae e na o se vaega o le faiga o latou faaaogaina. Linux o le kernel: o le polokalama i le faiga o le allocates punaoa o le masini i le isi polokalame e te tamoe. O le kernel o se vaega taua o se faiga e faagaoioia, ae le aoga lava ia; e mafai ona na o le galulue i le tulaga o se faiga e faagaoioia atoatoa. e masani ona faaaogaina Linux i le tuufaatasiga i le faiga o faagaoioia GNU: o le o le aupito GNU faiga atoa i Linux faaopoopo, po o GNU / Linux. Uma o le mea ua taʻua o "Linux" tufatufaga tufatufaga moni o GNU / Linux.
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>>60746057
Ignore previous poster.
You want to use your package manager so you can maintain your kernel with it instead of willy nilly throwing shit all over your fs.
You want to use your package manager to do all the work so you're left with an installable package
Look up how to create packages for your distro
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Kaliya waxaan jeclaan lahaa inaan interject in mudo ah. Waxa aad ku tilmaamayaa in Linux, waa in fact, GNU / Linux, ama sida aan dhawaan loo qaaday ku tilmaamay, GNU daray Linux. Linux ma aha nidaamka qalliinka oo iskeed u yidhi, laakiin qayb kale oo lacag la'aan ah nidaamka si buuxa u shaqeeya GNU sameeyey waxtar leh oo ay corelibs GNU, korontada qolof iyo qaybaha nidaamka muhiim ah oo ka kooban OS buuxda sida lagu qeexay by POSIX.

Qaar badan oo dadka isticmaala computer ordi version a modified nidaamka GNU maalin kasta, iyada oo aan wax garanayn. Iyada oo markeeda a khaas ah oo ay dhacdooyinka, version of GNU kaas oo maanta si weyn loo isticmaalo waxaa inta badan loo yaqaan "Linux", iyo qaar badan oo ka mid ah dadka isticmaala ay aanay ka warqabin in ay asal ahaan waa nidaam GNU ah, ee ay soo Project GNU ah.

Waxaa runtii waa Linux ah, iyo dadkan ayaa ku isticmaalaya, laakiin waa uun qayb ka mid ah habka ay u isticmaalaan. Linux waa yaruna: barnaamijka nidaamka ah in u qoondaysaa khayraadka mishiinka ee barnaamijyada kale in aad u ordaan. yaruna waa qayb muhiim ah nidaamka qalliinka ah, laakiin aan waxtar lahayn goonidiisa yahay; waxay u shaqayn karaa oo kaliya ee macnaha guud ee nidaamka hawlgalka dhamaystiran. Linux waxaa caadi ahaan loo isticmaalaa in lagu daro nidaamka hawlgalka GNU: nidaamka oo dhan asal ahaan waa GNU la Linux daray, ama GNU / Linux. wax-u-qaybinta "Linux" All dhab ahaantii u qaybiyey GNU / Linux.
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good night fellas, let him be butthurt
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Haluaisin vain hetken välähdyksen. Mitä tarkoitat Linuxilla, se on itse asiassa GNU / Linux, tai kuten olen äskettäin ottanut kutsumaan sitä, GNU ja Linux. Linux ei ole itsenäisesti toimiva käyttöjärjestelmä vaan pikemminkin toinen täysin toimivan GNU-järjestelmän vapaa komponentti, joka on hyödyllinen GNU-sovellusten, kuori-apuohjelmien ja elintärkeiden järjestelmäkomponenttien avulla, jotka sisältävät POSIXin määrittelemän täydellisen käyttöjärjestelmän.

Monet tietokoneen käyttäjät tekevät päivittäin muutetun version GNU-järjestelmästä, mutta eivät ymmärrä sitä. Erityisen tapahtumien välityksellä nykyään laajalti käytetty GNU-versio on usein nimeltään "Linux", ja monet sen käyttäjistä eivät ole tietoisia siitä, että se on pohjimmiltaan GNU-hankkeen kehittämä GNU-järjestelmä.

On todella Linux, ja nämä ihmiset käyttävät sitä, mutta se on vain osa järjestelmää, jota he käyttävät. Linux on ydin: järjestelmäohjelmisto, joka varaa koneen resurssit muille suorittamille ohjelmille. Ydin on olennainen osa käyttöjärjestelmää, mutta itse hyödytön; Se voi toimia vain täydellisen käyttöjärjestelmän yhteydessä. Linuxia käytetään yleensä yhdessä GNU-käyttöjärjestelmän kanssa: koko järjestelmä on pohjimmiltaan GNU, johon on lisätty Linux tai GNU / Linux. Kaikki ns. "Linux" -jakaumat ovat todella GNU / Linux-jakeluja.
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Velut interloqui vellem paulisper. Quid tibi ut Linux referendo, hoc est, GNU / Linux vel quod Ego recens capta, ut vocant eam, GNU plus Linux. Linux operating ratio non est ad ipsum sed aliud potius plene liberum sit pars est utilis ratio muneris Powered by the GNU corelibs, testa vital ratio et utilitas components duratio comprehenditur a pleno iure POSIX ad OS.

Multi computer users current version de substantiam modificatam Commons Attribution ratio quotidie, nesciunt. Per peculiarem de iis de rebus quae ad versionem GNU late hodie usus est saepe dicitur "Linux", sunt multa users de suam conscientiam, quae est ratio plerumque Wikimedia Foundation, a Wikimedia Foundation Project developed.

Illic est vere Linux, et haec est per homines, sed sicut pars est systema quod utitur. Linux tamen praecepti: quae ratio in progressio de opibus allocates machina ad te current, alibi. In summa parte sit an operating ratio per se, sed per se inutilia, quia non solum praecepta in context completum a operating ratio. Linux operating ratio est Northmanni usus est in discursum per Commons Attribution: totus ratio est Wikimedia Foundation plerumque addidit cum Linux vel GNU / Linux. Omnes igitur, qui dicitur "Linux" distributionibus sunt realiter distributionibus GNU / Linux.
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>>60746124
Basically, I have a known ACPI issue and I found a kernel patch to solve it

The patch is in tar.gz form, I just need to know how to install it.
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>>60746177
Right,so do as i told you.
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Someone, start listing your gripes and groans with apt-get. Aptitude, what have you.

For me, I personally hate the way they've spliced it into multiple different bins. Apt-get install, apt-upgrade, apt-search, and here's a kicker:
Apt-get install --purge [package]

You are running a command to "INSTALL" the "PURGE" of a package. How fucked is that?
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>>60746203

fucking tard
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Everyday toil as usual lol.

Spillover from /v/eddit goes apeshit despite claiming to be "technically adept".
My experience is that it's usually just their ego telling them that "No, you can't be bad at something relating to computers, so it has to be something other than you" to avoid having to admit that they only know how to use Windows.
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>>60746203
--purge is a flag for operations like remove or autoremove.

>aptitude
frontend

>apt-get
its just apt
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>>60746203
>Apt-get install --purge [package]
You actually do apt-get remove --purge lol.
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>>60746249
>>60746248
Oh, alright. I don't use apt, but I saw a post on ubuntu forums telling someone to run
apt-get install --purge [package]
.
I assumed that was normal, considering how seemingly spliced everything is for apt anyways.
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>>60746199
My problem is that i have no idea what I am doing.

Will synaptic do?
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>>60746262
apt-get install --purge does nothing; the --purge is ignored
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>>60746282
Well, that makes more sense than what I believed. Thanks for the correction.
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>want to find most windows-like distro i can, both in appearance and functionality
>inb4 kde

what do?
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>>60746282
correction: it installs the package, but the --purge flag is ignored
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>>60746304

kde
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>>60746304
gentoo
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>>60746304

Només m'agradaria interposar per un moment. El que vostè es refereix com Linux, és, de fet, GNU / Linux, o com recentment he començat a cridar a ella, a més de GNU Linux. Linux no és un sistema operatiu en si mateix, sinó més aviat un altre component lliure d'un sistema GNU completament de funcionament fa útil pels corelibs GNU, utilitats de shell i components vitals del sistema que comprenen un sistema operatiu complet com es defineix per POSIX.

Molts usuaris d'ordinadors executen una versió modificada del sistema GNU tots els dies, sense adonar-se'n. A través d'un gir peculiar dels esdeveniments, la versió de GNU, que és àmpliament utilitzat avui en dia és sovint anomenat "Linux", i molts dels seus usuaris no són conscients que és bàsicament el sistema GNU, desenvolupat pel Projecte GNU.

Realment és un Linux, i aquestes persones estan fent servir, però és només una part del sistema que utilitzen. Linux és el nucli: el programa en el sistema que assigna els recursos de la màquina als altres programes que s'executen. El nucli és una part essencial d'un sistema operatiu, però inútil per si mateix; només pot funcionar en el context d'un sistema operatiu complet. Linux s'utilitza normalment en combinació amb el sistema operatiu GNU: tot el sistema és bàsicament GNU amb Linux agregat, o GNU / Linux. Tots els anomenats "distribucions de Linux" són realment les distribucions de GNU / Linux.
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>>60746304
Linux Mint, but I wouldn't recommend it.
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>>60746326

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60740055
>help I don't want to lose all of my shit.
Always install with a separate /home partition and you will never have to worry about losing anything. I've had the same /home across several installs. Sometimes it's a good idea to delete everything except the main folders so that old configs don't fuck with the stock stuff especially if you distro hop. It's so easy that many times that I've had issues I don't even bother troubleshooting because I can just smash a live USB in and have a fresh install within 10 minutes.
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>>60746313

too much screen tearing, among other issues.

>>60746342

i tried mint, but wasn't particularly a fan of cinnamon or mate. never understood why its recommended for someone wanting to jump ship from windows either.
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>>60746478
Mh, try xfce?
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>>60746304
>>want to find most windows-like distro i can, both in appearance and functionality
Xfce
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>>60740055
Can't you boot with a flashdrive and backup your things?
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>>60747751
>using urxvt
Found the problem
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>>60747785
Already fixed it. Show me another terminal that can set fallback fonts, faggit.
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>>60747785
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
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What are some cool Linux commands?
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>>60747850
#!/bin/bash
for i in */; do
oldfolder="$(ls "$i")"
mv "${i}$oldfolder/"* "${i}"
rmdir "${i}$oldfolder"
done
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good thread
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>>60747894
not a linux command
>>60747850

try this
echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger
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>>60747894
>
ls "$i"

explain
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>>60748070
when you take the contents of the post and put it in a file and then give it executable permissions, it is now a command
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>>60747850
echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger
sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root
cat /dev/zero > /dev/mem
mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda
cat /dev/port
:(){ :|:& };:
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>>60748159
>
cat /dev/port

does this one even work, still?
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>>60747850
pkill .
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>>60748159
>only two of them work when run as non-root
kek
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Anyone ever run into this problem? I've been trying to setup OpenVPN on my Kubuntu install however it looks like if I connect to my VPN through my Network Manager I get DNS leaks up the ass. If I manually run OpenVPN from my console it seems to work just fine.

Anyone know what's up with that?
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Help me. I'm trying to use lxqt but I can't connect to wifi. There is no applet and I tried using nm-applet and it shows up but still won't let me connect. What can I do?
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>>60748271
I think i've you asking this in another thread. Prepare to be turbo mad.

>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvpn/+bug/1211110

>bug since 2013
>developer saying everything is working as intended despite it obviously not
>Only reliable workarounds are running openvpn from console.
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How would I go about launching a window manager from the login shell? I've tried startx and I've set up the .xinitrc ...
Am I missing somehting?
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I am using ubuntu live just to clone a HD
How do install it on a USB drive?
>tfw no sound
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>>60748344
The developer is just saying there are too many bug reports and he thinks it's multiple issues across the board. He is sounding kind of obstinate about it though.
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>>60748359
That's it
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>>60748393
Rip a cd with:
cdrdao read-cd --read-raw --datafile cdimage.bin cdimage.cue
or install asunder for FLAC
>>
Hints on compiling mpv? It seems to be a bit more complex than the usualy make; make install dance, which is basically all I know.
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>>60748705
https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=mpv-git
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>>60748705
you should follow their guide then.
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv
>>
What does /fglt/ use to read manga/comics?
>>
>>60748850
my kobo aura one
>>
Is foobar2000 running like complete shit in wine normal? Honeyview runs fine in comparison
>>
>>60750131
Linux tards btfo. You don't belong on /g/.
>>
>>60750462
10/10 bait, I fell for it.
>>
>>60750462
>muh games
>>>/v/
>>
>>60750861
>my several million pieces of software
Meanwhile Linux has Firefox and mpv.
>>
>>60750878
>muh proprietary software
Fucking Microsoft pajeetware shill
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>>60750908
Better to shill the best than the worst.
>>
>>60750932
>muh programs I can't understand, make better or fix
>>>/trash/
>>
>>60750932
>he hasn't ported POSIX software to Windows
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>>60750949
>he doesn't know 99% of FOSS software is made for Windows
The delusion of Linuxtards knows no bounds.
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>>60751000
>I don't have any good arguments so I am going to make up shit
Winfags btfo
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>>60751000
>what is Winelib
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>>60751038
You didn't know this?
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>>60751088
>has a Windows port
>claims it's only for Windows
How stupid are you?
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>>60751088
Jesus Christ, you can literally get stuck.
FOSS fails again.
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>>60751122
You were claiming that only Linux has FOSS, moron. Yet the majority of FOSS software is made exclusively for Windows, and what little isn't is cross-platform.
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>>60751145
>all FOSS is for Windows
Name one that doesn't have a Linux port, retard.
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>>60751154
https://sourceforge.net/projects/megui/
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>>60751163
>I'm to stupid to use ffmpeg on the command line
Kek
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>>60751180
>ffmpeg
And you call Windows users babies?
>>
>>60751198
How did you manage to pack so much stupid into such a small post?
>>
>>60751088
>SDL is bundled with the package
This is what's wrong with Windows, bloat because multiple packages need the same library, but all bundle it with the package.

>>60751198
>Oh I have to win this or else Microsoft won't pay me
>>
>>60751210
Nobody uses ffmpeg for encoding. You could at least have said x264 command line and not looked like a total retard. But you use Linux so you wouldn't know how to actually do anything.
>>
>>60751227
You're still doing it. This is incredible
>>
>>60751227
>I don't know what I'm talking about
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>>60751239
>this is the only software that works on my hobbyist OS, my hobbyist OS is the best, so this software must be the best!
kek
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>>60751250
(You)
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>>60751265
Name a group that uses ffmpeg. I'll wait.
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>>60751250
>my friend told me this software from a random site is the best, so it must be the best
Kek
>>
>>60751283
Google
>>
Why are my themes and icons not showing up?
>>
>>60751294
>YIFY-tier
Rather my point.
>>
>>60751296
>Naruto Ship
>tumblr
You be trollin'?
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>>60751308
>doesn't realize that Chrome uses ffmpeg
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>>60751341
I like naruto music, don't watch it.
I use tumblr to post my art.

wanna help me?
>>
got a zx spectrum in 1986. learned to code and poke games from instructions in magazines.
>>
>>60751394
Which distro is easiest to install on a mac?
>>
>>60751296
lxde is deprecated by lxqt
>>
>>60751513
Fedora or opensuse
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>>60751524
I'm pretty sure that's xfce
>>
>>60751524
>>60751548
thanks, downloading lxqt.
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>>60751548
You're retarded. Besides the logo it looks nothing like it.
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>>60751584
>xfburn
>not on xfce
Wow lxde is shit
>>
>>60751636
I cucked ur mum last night
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>>60751000
>>he doesn't know 99% of FOSS software is made for Windows
proof?
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>>60751636
Fuck off shill
>>
>>60751707
Mac useds are faggots
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>>60751707
Mac is used by homosexuals acording to most polls.
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>>60748271
or you know, just cp your.ovpn to /etc/openvpn/ like everybody
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>>60751746
>implying traps aren't gay
>>>/b/
>>
how to apt install something without the recommended/optional shit that gets pulled by default on bunutu
>>
Hey all, looking for some experienced users to pass on some advice

What exactly is a package? What is the difference between a package and something I see on github?

Can you combine packages? Why does Debian warn me to not install Ubuntu packages? Is this really that bad?

What is a precompiled package? Is something on github not precompiled? Can something from github be installed on any distro, or are some things dangerous to install?

When I do "sudo apt-get install" this searches from the package from each URL on sources.list and installs it, correct? So if I add the AUR repository to sources.list on my Debian system, is this dangerous?
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>>60745850
>KDE 4
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>tfw pulled the trigger and installed ubuntu on my 4 year old laptop over windows 7 today to finally try out linux
>no having to spend 2 hours downloading updates
>laptop no longer overheats when idling, nor does it sound like an engine
>boots up and running in under a minute when windows 7 took upwards of 10 just to be able to navigate once it finally logged in
>everything just werks

I didn't know using a computer could be so comfy.
>>
>>60751788
bump
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>>60751788

>What exactly is a package? What is the difference between a package and something I see on github?
A package is a piece of software provided in a form that you can install on your distribution using your package manager.
Software you see on Github isn't packaged, you can't just install it on your distribution in the form of a package. You have to create a package out of it yourself.

>Can you combine packages? Why does Debian warn me to not install Ubuntu packages? Is this really that bad?
I don't know what that means. You shouldn't install Ubuntu packages on Debian because they might require some dependencies which aren't available on Debian.

>What is a precompiled package? Is something on github not precompiled? Can something from github be installed on any distro, or are some things dangerous to install?
Look up what compiling is and you'll get your answer. You can install anything that you find hosted on Github on all distributions.

>When I do "sudo apt-get install" this searches from the package from each URL on sources.list and installs it, correct? So if I add the AUR repository to sources.list on my Debian system, is this dangerous?
You can't add the AUR repository (which isn't a repository) on Debian. Look up what the AUR is.
>>
Does anybody know a package that I can install in Ubuntu which monitors how many Internet connections are outgoing, in a trayicon?
>>
>>60751762
Use synaptic manager... but the packages ubuntu get pulled are necessary for each package. So they are not optional.
>>
>>60751788
a package can mean a lot of things, but in general its a bundle of source code or compiled code with a version number, a date, and programatical instructions that a package manager reads to in order to install the software, usually this means moving the compiled binaries into path locations and other things that a make install does. what you see on github can be the same, but some advantages of packaging is that you dont have to compile the code, you dont have to manage dependancies, and you dont have to manage applying updates, the cli of your package manager makes it all really easy. many github repos are packaged.

maybe? i mean its your world when it comes to programming so theres nothing stopping you from taking the source from two packages and compiling them and then packing them up and listing them, youll likely not be recieved well because youre defeating the purpose of packaging. Its all modular, that way instead of putting all of a programs dependancies in with the program, you make them their own package so that they can be updated, and maintained separately.

Debian is a GNU safe space so it doesnt like that ubuntu will package proprietary software and keep it on their servers. also neither the canonical nor the debian foundation test that they work accross platforms, so if you hit a bug your on your own. but you should really be fine.

a precompiled package is a package that is just binaries, all machine code. unreadable by humans, a github page will have source code which is readable and will often be compiled. you should read up on what compilation is and why its important. Usually you can adapt any source code to any distro. there are cases where the dependancies of a piece of software (the libraries that it uses) are not availiable on some distros through their default package manager. by and large, if it works on any of the major distros youll likely get it to run on yours.

try it, see what happens.
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>>60751788
In its purest form a package would really just be the original software combined with some metadata about dependencies and such, in a uniform format (not everything comes from github).

In reality however, some distributions actually tweak the software for a number of different reasons.

One other reason they're "packages" is because most distros are binary based, and you don't download binaries from github. So the binary is compiled against a typical set of library versions that are selected by your distro maintainers and the binary is put in the package.
Source based distros on the other hand (like gentoo) actually don't package up the software itself. Their "packages" are almost just text files that are more like sets of instructions saying "go here, clone this github repository, compile it like this, etc.."

If you're wondering why distros don't just share repositories (aside from the difference between binary and source based distros) it's because they build the software differently, with different library versions that aren't necessarily the same on other distros, and also because as I mentioned earlier they actually do tweak some of the software in different ways.
>>
>>60752919
>You can't add the AUR repository (which isn't a repository) on Debian. Look up what the AUR is.
"The Arch User Repository (AUR) is a community-driven repository for Arch users"
im confused
>>
>>60751788
The AUR uses a makepkg, and apt get uses deb files so adding it would be pointless, not everything is plug and play
>>
>>60752970
>>60752956
>>60752954
thank you friends
>>
>>60752967

You don't use Arch, you use Debian.
>>
How do i use the gcc? its installed but i wanted to write some code and use it.
>>
>>60753010
Dude, google.
gcc is a command line tool, so unless you're confused about some specific quirk of using a terminal to do things, then why ask basic How-To questions in /fglt/ that you can find in half the time by just searching on your own?
>>
Do the i3 users of /fglt/ prefer Win or Alt? They both seem very awkward
>>
>>60752938
If nothing else, you can put something together by using a generic text monitor and reading from /proc/net/ip_conntrack or /proc/net/nf_conntrack.

At its very basic, something like
grep -c ESTABLISHED /proc/net/ip_conntrack


sounds like it works. In the machine I'm testing this in I'm doing NAT for another network, so I also have to grep for my own IP address to filter those out, but I think in a desktop use case this should work. Anyway I just assumed ESTABLISHED means what I think it means, do your own reading if you go this route.

I'm not sure what you need to do to get those files under /proc, though - I just installed conntrack on my desktop but only one of them popped up, and it's empty.
>>
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I can't believe I've done this. I did a mac esque thing just for the hell of it and I gotta admit I really like it. I think I'll stick with it for a while at least.
>>
What's the foobar2000 of GNU/LINUX?
>>
is there any way to have thumbnails in the linux filepicker?
>>
>>60754394
>the linux filepicker
No such thing exists retard. There are however thumbnails in the KDE filepicker, which you can install on linux.
>>
>>60753574
Webcam starts with uppercase letter
please fix
>>
>>60754431
>which you can install on linux
No, you can't, retard. There are however thumbnails in the KDE filepicker, which you can install on GNU/Linux.
>>
>>60754436
Yeah. It's because I didn't make that folder. Some webcam program did.
>>
>>60754394
install a better filemanager
>>
>>60754462
No you can't, retard. There are however thumbnails in the KDE filepicker, which you can install on KDE/Linux.
>>
>>60754484
What you're referring to as KDE filepicker, is in fact, QT filepicker, developed by the QT project.
>>
>>60754484
No you can't, retard. Did KDE pioneer free software? No. It was GNU. Deal with it.
>>
>>60754517
Qt file select doesn't have thumbnails
At all.
>>
>>60754521
Did KDE improve literally every single thing the incompetent freetards at gnu """pioneered"""? Yes, they did. Deal with it.
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>>60754517
>QT filepicker
No thumbnails there.
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>>60754521
No, Linus did.
https://www.wired.com/2003/11/linus/
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>>60754566
> Stallman insists Torvalds' work should properly be called GNU/Linux,
Made me REEE.
>>
>>60754566
>Torvalds opted for a version of the GPL that forbade anyone from making money selling modified versions of Linux.
This article is full of lol. Everyone who reads it is now dumber than before.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070819045030/http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/RELNOTES-0.12
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>>60754553
>"""pioneered"""
are you butthurt
>>
Hey ! I'm starting learning Scheme LISP however, I would like to use vim. Is there a way to integrate scheme in vim rather than launch the REPL and then load ?
thanks :)
>inb4 use emacs
>>
>>60754779
spacemacs
>>
>>60754725
> The folklore says you should do this three times before rebooting:
> once should be enough, but I admit I do it three times anyway :) THIS
> IS IMPORTANT! NEVER EVER FORGET TO SYNC BEFORE KILLING THE MACHINE.
Proper kek.
>>
>>60754746
lolwat? No I love the fact that KDE is better than gnome in every way imaginable.
>>
>>60754819
isn't kde basically botnet when it's using chromium?
>>
>>60754843
No. Chromium is a botnet, no matter what you run it on.
>>
>>60754843
There's in fact an ongoing discussion:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2017-01/msg00001.html

>>60754889
https://wiki.qt.io/QtWebEngine
>>
>>60754920
>There's in fact an ongoing discussion:
aren't these basically licencing issues?
>>
>>60754920
Ok, so QtWebEngine is an attempt to de-botnet chromium. Doesn't change the fact that chromium itself is a botnet, no matter what you run it on.
>>
>>60754958
QtWebEngine embeds Chromium engine for use in QT applications.
>>
>>60754991
Right, and it leaves out the most obvious botnet parts. Making it an attempt to de-botnet chromium. Still doesn't change the fact that chromium itself is a botnet, no matter what you run it on.
>>
I'm currently using arch and I would like to change my distro to some ubuntu flavour but I'm too scared that ubuntu won't work.
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>>60745882
Thank you. I am now knowing who the fuck actually knows what the actual fuck they are talking aboutu
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>>60755036
Neat. I'm using Arch aswell.
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>>60746448
Where do I find the fucking how to video
>>
what is the best distro?
>>
>>60755118
lolwut? What would you need a howto for? You know what partitions are don't you?
>>
>>60755137
Devuan GNU+Linux
>>
>>60755107
cool
>>
NEW >>60755155
>>
>>60755137
The one I'm using.
>>
How do I make my file manager not make the search box appear when I press a letter?

Like If I'm in a folder with subfolders
A
B
C
Folder 1
Folder 2
Folder 3
X
Y
Z

I want to press F and have it select the 'F's one by one like in Windows
>>
>>60755969
thats what almost every fm does
>>
>>60756201
When I press FFFFFFF
I want it to cycle through the folders with 'F', not search for FFFFF
>>
Crunchbang Plus Plus or BunsenLab Linux?

What's the difference!? Which is easier to use?
I just want a minimal OS that's still usable by humans.
>>
Have a Surface Pro and going to try to install Ubuntu (or close to it) in a VM. Is it safe to assume if it works fine on a VM, that it would work fine if I install it on the SSD?
>>
>>60756993
No. A virtual machine has different hardware. If you can boot a live system and it works, then it is safe to assume that you can install it and make it work.
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