/retro/ - retro, vintage, old computers and tech

>>60727427
bumping for comfy thread

>>60723079
This should totally be a thing here

>>60727609
kek

>>60728226
YES

>>60728238
>Apple II
>Graphics
Ugh, shouldn't it be an Amiga?

>>60727609
Theme for 4chan is nice. I may have to find that.

>>60727427
Ciao /ita/,
spero tu sia marchigiano

>>60728264
The theme has been posted several times before on /retro/, you will probably find it after browsing the archive for a while

>>60728281
>>60728282
Topkek!

>>60728281
kek you retoasted mine 1 second before I did

>>60728271
CUTE.
Is the PC-98 cold?

>>60728282
>>60728284
>>60728298

Sorry, dude. Your pic is nicer tho. More angles.

>>60728294
replace the meme BeOS screenshot with a Workbench/MagicWB one and then we would have 3 top tier oldtime (consumer) UIs

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>>60728316
It's k

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These thingies I picked up not too long ago. Made a video about them.

>>60728403
Yes we saw ITTFami

>>60728403
Oh yeah!

Those are cool

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>>60728503
I-I just-
Sorry.
Here, have a 5160 running GEM/3.

>>60728549
We won't shut up about the dongling 3 1/2" floppy drive until you fix it.
Otherwise nice.

>>60728549
I got that same box of dysan floppies

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>>60728549
Fix that floppy drive, that machine deserves better then that.

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>>60728572
>>60728617
Gib money to buy the adapter then. Also gib a twisted pair MAU, there's an Ethernet card inside that thing now and I can't use it bacause I don't have a 10base2 hub.

>>60728630
I wish I could send you my 5.25 to 3.5 bay adapter

... but it costs like $80 to send it from burgerland to you

Anyway, a new bay adapter off of spainebay is like only 20 eubucks

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>>60728980
The computer along with the monitor cost me €10. I ain't spending twice that on an adapter. Also, the only thing that's missing is the bezel, it does have a 5 1/4" to 3 1/2" adapter installed.
Don't have any more retro hardware pics right now, so here's a picture I took with a Polaroid 635

>>60729046
corrugated plastic sheet and an x-acto knife

>>60728630
make your own!

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>listening to vaporwave on Windows 98
maximum comfy

>>60729949
Try System 7 or AmigaOS

>>60728358
Such comfy....

>>60729304
normal case covers for CD/DVD slots from newer cases work fine too

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>>60728630
With the amount of shit you seem to have I'm surprised you haven't come across one already, though most of them are still beige so they'd look shitty.

I've seen 720K drives that match PCs/XTs perfectly, though, down to an IBM-style blue button and properly textured plastic.

>>60729997
not enough blocky polygons. windows 98 is the way to go

>>60728226
is there a way to install plug ins and stuff to get netscape to work with some new sites? I can still use it to browse 4chan, but not post.

>>60730741
>not enough blocky polygons.
not sure if trolling or clueless

>>60730719
I don't usually come across spare parts.
>IBM-style blue button
Wasn't that design introduced with the PS/2 line?
Anyway, I've only been looking at adapters, I didn't even think to check for the drives themselves.

As of right now, my allowance this week is going to a set of belts for the Betamax VCR, which needs them ASAP.

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>>60729610
>>60730304
I'm not good with plastics, I'm more used to modding metal cases. But I'll give it a try, I think I have a couple covers from some junked P4 PCs.

>>60730808
it's the second. lemme see those aestethics

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>>60728259
CDE is so hot.

>>60730864
>Wasn't that design introduced with the PS/2 line?
Yes and no, there where some less known IBM machines with similar floppy drives and no PC/XT/AT had an official 3.5" drive before the PS/2 itself came out.

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>>60728630

Which country are you in?
I got an adapter for mine on the cheap.

>>60730864
>Wasn't that design introduced with the PS/2 line?
Yeah, which is why I found it nice since it looked even more like an official upgrade.

Wish I could find pictures of it, fuck I wish I bought it, it was something I saw on Ebay forever ago.

>>60730985
I think the convertible is the only one that comes to mind for me that had that color scheme in the PC space at least.

>>60731063
The country where the Sun works full time on burning German tourists' skins and corrupt politicians rule, Spain.

(Also, I absolutely love your setup)

>>60731102

Take a pic of your setup with a temp email address on a sheet of paper, I can paypal you £30 for the parts.

>>60728403
>>60728549
vwestlife you fucking faggot

>>60731153
he isn't vwestlife, he's ittfami

>>60727827
I'm pretty sure that this isn't actually retro, it's just some guy's attempt at a DIY sound card.

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Here's something heartwarming.

An autoshop in Poland used a homemade setup for balancing driveshafts for the last 25 years. It uses RC oscillators and piezoelectric sensors for picking up vibrations and a C64C that survived leaking roof and pigeons shitting on it.

https://youtu.be/fJAB0_D6WJQ

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>>60731133
Pls be real

>>60731262
And the monitor is commie-made Neptun 156 CGA monitor.

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>>60731283

sent ;^)

>>60728268
Bella la ps2 affianco

>>60731283
Welp, I guess it was all an elaborate ruse.
My PayPal address is on my youtube channel anyway.

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>>60728617
Nice. I used to have a Quadra 950 with DayStar PowerPro, 80MHz PPC601 with 4x 72 pin RAM expansion slots. So my 950 had 20 RAM slots total and supported 384MB RAM

I had to sell that extremely rare card when I lost my job in order to support myself, along with pretty much my entire vintage computer collection

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Many many many thanks mate.
Want me to mention you in a video? Make a specific video about something?

>>60731729

Nah jts okay, just post a pic once you tidy your PC up ;)

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>>60731719

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>>60731763
Not a computer but an awesome power supply. Got it for only $75. It has more amps and volts than new power supplies which cost $300, while having lower ripple. Its not very energy efficient though. Its neat though because it has a built in variac (variable transformer)

>>60731758
You got it.
Hell, I'll take the picture with my analog SLR even.

>>60728281
>>60728282
I can smell dad's tobacco from here.

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>>60731763
I would to play with one of these

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>>60731858
I feel bad because it got damaged in shipping to the guy I sold it too. Fucking 3 corners got dented in.

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>>60731966

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>>60728294
I have the strangest love for pre-OSX Macs. It's weird because at first I thought it was just linked into some vague fantasies about the San Francisco Bay Area circa 1999 planted in my mind by Flight Unlimited 2 (Thanks Looking Glass!) but now I'm not so sure that's really the cause.

There's just something very nice about them, even if emulation has been relatively tedious and prices are creeping up. Perhaps for the hardware itself in particular, it's the weird way they came and went. "Hey, we're not beige anymore, let's be colourful > Actually this is pretty Gaudy, we're white now > Nah silver is cooler.", although even the pre-jobs-return stuff like the trackball powerbook and the 520C are also pretty great.

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>>60732003
Loved this machine. Dual 200MHz (or maybe 300MHz?) SPARC CPUs, I think 2GB RAM, a 15MB video card. I ran Debian on it, and it was surprisingly peppy. Surfed the web just fine

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>>60732136
Absolutely wonderful. That mid-90s Sun aesthetic is the best.
Yesterday I got my E250 up and running with Debian, finally. Now it's compiling the latest 4.11 kernel for mad internet cred points. It's a dual 400MHz UltraSPARC II

>>60731966

It's your fault for not packing it properly.

>>60732272
I labeled it fragile and kinda just assumed they wouldnt fucking throw the thing around. I mean it was so heavy it would practically be easier not to throw it around. But yes, lesson learned.

At the time, i had no car. I had to sell pretty much everything I owned, car included. I had to literally walk to the post office carrying this stuff. Not to mention walk to get all the packing material in the first place.

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>>60732417
Heres the box to that ultra-rare DayStar 80MHz PowerPro

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>>60732431

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>>60732386
>I labeled it fragile and kinda just assumed they wouldnt fucking throw the thing around.
aw that's cute

>>60731205
If I had to guess it's either ISA or S100 which is in fact retro.

>>60731966
If that's the damage it doesn't really look that bad, can always order some new plastics from a reseller.

I need to get some for mine, the entire front is fucked and needs a door and an XZ badge anyway.

>>60731205
> ISA tho

>>60732386
Yeah, no. Warehouse/shipping/receiving guy here. Never, EVER do this. If you want anything to survive shipping you need to pack it to survive a 5 foot drop. I wouldn't have used less than two layers of heavy bubblewrap and packed the rest of the box space with paper.

No such thing as too well packed.

Does anyone know if drivers still exist for gameport Sidewinder Force Feedback sticks?

>>60733122
No that pic was before the damage. Im not sure if I have any after pics. But it looked like it got dropped on 3 separate corners

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>>60734093
Sucks shit, is it still just plastic damage at least?

>>60733292
>I wouldn't have used less than two layers of heavy bubblewrap and packed the rest of the box space with paper.
Pretty sure I did this, but since its so heavy it probably popped through the bubbles

> need to pack it to survive a 5 foot drop
It probably would have if it was dropped flat, spreading the load. But it was clearly dropped directly on the corners

>>60734117
The buyer seemed convinced the hard-drive must have been damaged from the heads getting jerked, but I think he ended up testing it and it was OK. So yeah I think the damage was ultimately cosmetic and the machine still functioned

>>60734147
I never felt comfortable with the idea of shipping a system with the drives still in it, I'd pull it and ship separately.

If it is just the plastic then that's good, better than having to fix the fucking frame.

>>60734163
Im just glad the Ultra2 I shipped to Russia arrived in good condition. I spent alot of time and money on that machine, maxing out RAM, putting in dual CPUs, installing a 10k rpm SCSI drive, and putting in the best video card available for its video slot.

>>60732008
Having lived that time period (90's Macs) all I can say is that they were comfy.

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>>60728206
I can hear my dad's office computer's system sounds in my head. He still rocked 95 for spreadsheets well into a couple years ago.

Used to play this fucking game during tax crunch time with my brother while we tried to be quiet.

>>60732008
i thought those looked neat when i was 12, my school had a few

>>60728193
I love Kojima

>>60728281
I think pretty much the only thing missing from this picture is a set of oldschool rabbit ears on one of the TVs.

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OS-9 was my first experience with a unix like OS. It claimed to be a real time OS but for what I was doing that wasn't really important.

>>60734514
>February 14, 1901
damn, how old are you?

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I would show you my 760ED... but it has a shitty hard drive adapter that won't recognize anything.

Does anyone smart with elecktronwicks know what the wire mod to the adapters do at all to help recognize them at all?

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>>60734523
Older than the universe itself.

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Streaming some old Computer Chronicles episodes, if anyone would like to join and talk about it:

https://sync-video.com/r/c0mpu73rchr0n1clez

First Up:
>OS/2 Warp (1994)

>>60734514
so you're japanese or what

i don't think the fujitsu computers made it out of japan

>>60727573
Cool clock, Ahmed.

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>>60734595
I'd like to know too, I got a 760L

I'm ordering a CF card and ide adapter, but a lot of people online with my model say that the adapter needs to be modded just like what you're saying.

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>>60734734
how... improbable

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> tfw can't find a ROM image to replace the existing junk video ROM

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Just finished building this case out and setting up OS last night, I have never seen one like this before.

> 1/2

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>>60735115
Now, to retrobrite the shit out of it

>>60734595
Got a bigger/cleaner image? It's hard to tell which pin is on the end of the wire going to the center.

Also, I'm under the assumption that the connector behind the white tape is a 50-pin scsi?

>>60735130
You should install Gentoo.

>>60731205
This is the first ever soundblaster card. A very crude but iconic prototype.

Educate thyself mein negro.

>>60735198
>drilling all those holes by hand
madmen.

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>>60735198

>>60735198
Fuck off with condescending bullshit and google before you post faggot.

http://www.deep-shadows.com/hax/wordpress/?page_id=364

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>>60734595
>>60734938
OMG IS THIS WHY I CANT GET MY 240X TO BOOT FROM A CF CARD?!?!?!?

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>>60727427
Dell Dimension 4300 I got at a yard sale today for $10 that I ended up using for parts after I couldn't reset the BIOS password (tried replacing the CMOS battery and removing the jumper).

Here are the parts I got out of it:
>1.7GHz Socket 478 Willamette Pentium 4
>Aluminum CPU cooler that had one of those retarded pink thermal pads instead of thermal compound
>A 128MB PC133 RAM stick
>16MB ATI Rage 128 Ultra
>20GB IBM DeskStar 60GXP
>A CD-ROM and a CD-RW
>A floppy drive

>>60734431
OH MY GOD WHAT IS THIS GAME I REMEMBER IT

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>>60735616
Let's Explore the Airport

>>60735331
that smoke

TURN IT OFF dumb arse.
clearly you didn't change the thermal paste

>>60727573
cool suitcase, Mahmud.

>>60735762
its a vape cloud settle down its fine

>>60735331
>GTX 960 on an LGA775 board
Core 2 Quad? If so, what kind?

>>60727827
This is what a Sound Blaster would look like if it was made in the 60's.

>>60735906
Its actually a Xeon thats been pin modded to work in an LGA775 socket. Model number is X5460. Stock speed is 3.17GHz on a 1333MHz bus, and has 12MB L2 cache. For almost the entire time I had it I ran it overclocked to 3.8GHz on a 1600MHz bus. However, recently when I tried to encode a video, my computer would lock up, and running back at stock speed fixed the issue. You can get these things for like $25 or less on eBay

>>60735906
Not him, but when one of my roommates needed a desktop I found a Q6600 for about $50 and directed him to a GTX950 to makeup for it. Runs about as well as my FX6350 did with my OC'd 650Ti SSC.

>>60735983
That is, the entire machine was $50.

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Remember that Toshiba i saved from the recycling center?

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>>60736119

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>>60736119
>>60736149
>Satellite
Not as good as this.

>>60736160
>>60736149
>>60736119
Still mad about the T3100.

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>>60736119
Nah but still

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>>60736119
>>60736149
>>60736174
cute shitbox

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>>60736174
>energy star logo
Now there's something I haven't seen in quite a while.

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>>60736160
I got one of dees

>>60736367
Are there any applications for those things on the web or a dev kit worth a shit for CE 1.x/2.x? I really want to pick a 360 up to use as a PIM device/simple document processor.

>>60736408
Not really honestly but its just neat unto its own right. I'd say find a Jornada or one of the 8086 dos palmtops like the 200lx

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>>60736408
As far as applications go there's tons for ce 2.x, not so much 1.x. Thankfully mine has a 2.x rom

>>60736422
Already got a 95LX but I'd like something with a little more storage, a better built-in PIM suite, backlighting and I'm kind of fearful of the known screen problems with them, though mine's extremely intermittent at worst. It seemed like the best thing you could get that still ran on AAs.
>>60736444
I've looked around a lot but have never found a definitive site for CE applications, where do you get yours from?

>>60736444
>blundertale
stop

>>60736367
Oh hey, I have one of those too.

Could never get the serial port working, rather annoying since I couldn't even get paint or anything on it so it was basically useless.

>>60736444
Once you get into proper windows mobile it's great, if only tangentially retro thanks to the following sentence
>tfw discretely playing age of empires 1 in math with the ol' "it has a calculator and i forgot my actual calculator" trick.

>>60736664
Just had to get the proper software for mine and data transfer worked like a charm. Love these little things

>>60736664
>not just playing games on your actual calculator
WHat did he mean by this?

>>60731205
it's from the mid 90's tho

>>60733800
kek

>>60734938
>I'm ordering a CF card and ide adapter, but a lot of people online with my model say that the adapter needs to be modded just like what you're saying.

If your computer has a 44pin ATA drive, you don't need to mod a CF-ATA adapter for it to work, CF cards are identical electronically to IDE/ATA drives.

>>60734985
Sure it's the ROM and not RAM?
Garbage screen is always one of the two.

>>60735983
>Q6600
>FX6350
Owned both CPUs once, the FX6350 has almost double the single core speed (stock speed) as the Q6600 does and it has two more cores also. Also it overclocks easily up to 4.8-5.0GHz while the Q6600 struggles getting anything 3GHz.

>>60731133
>>60731283
>>60731362
>>60731729
Such bromance in /retro/<3

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>>60731763
this some slavshit?

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>>60732034
What do you do for a living anon?

>>60732508

angry

>>60737479
are you retarded?

>>60737421
Indeed. I fucking love you, guys.
t. ITTFami

>>60737496
get outta here sysadmin

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Such a comfy thread, tnx guys

>>60738057
c:

>>60733560
Can't wait for my Apple IIc to arrive!

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>>60727427
>>60728268
>>60731477

>>60727427

Is an iBook G4 classed as retro now?

>>60740082
There's no autistic retro list like /vr/ wants to make you believe. Definition of retro is anything old and/or nostalgic.
So yes, I'd say it's pretty retro, special points for being one of the last non-Wintel consumer computers.

>>60740198

I paid £70 for it off Ebay. It is in very nice condition. The Battery holds a good charge. At the moment it is running OSX Tiger and it can run "Classic" games.

I'm pleased with it. It is a very comfy computer to use.

>>60740350
It is indeed, I have a iBook G4 too, mostly for dicking around with MorphOS and PPC Linux distros, does have Tiger on a partition too but I leave dicking around with OS X to the desktop Macs.

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>>60740413
Are you being speciesist against ants anon? That's not very nice.

To be fair, this is a picture of my connector. It wires up to a regular 44 pin PATA cable, not SCSI 50-pin, but the solder points look tricky as fuck to accomplish.

I got the whole thing fot $5 though, so what do I have to lose?

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Woops.

>>60728630
what OS use this ?

>>60740824
I had Debian 7.9 running on it at the time. Couldn't install 8.x because of something to do with the newer version of X.org not supporting draw calls that are used in the Chips & Technologies driver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c5GKiz8ZFg

g-guise i am europoor with an Amstrad PC1640 HD20 with a failed hard drive (it was forgotten on the balcony for over 10 years) i took it apart even though it was filthy as fuck and it actually worked even though all the internal shieldings were full of rust but i cant do nothing because i dont have find the keyboard. Also i have a zenith z-note 325l laptop with a 386 and a broken screen and hard drive... Any recommendations ? Are they even worth messing around ?

>>60740507
>>60740524
What's the problem? Why do you have to solder?
As I understand the big connector goes to the motherboard of the laptop? You connect the CF card adapter to the 44pin header.

>>60741153
How do you know the drive is dead? Does it spin up? I've seen keyboards for those Amstrads on ebay for ~€20
I think your odds for finding a replacement screen for the laptop are pretty much nonexistant.

>>60741313
well it tries to spin for one sec and then it stops and flashes a red light. Well it was not rusty outside but the medal had a blueish powder over it when i opened the machine.

>>60741603
Probably sticky heads. Try rotating the disk by hand (by violently rotating the case, do not open it up) and see if that fixes it. You have nothing to lose, anyway.

>>60741201
I have to solder wires in order to get the adapter to work. Specifically on the proprietary header, pin 27 to 59 and pin 53 to 60.

While I know this will probably make it work, but I do not know the magic behind it as I do not know the pinout of the proprietary header.

>>60741866
Why do you have to solder?
Is it broken?

The adapter is made for 44pin 2.5" hard drives? If so, CF card adapters work out of the box.

>>60741974
Well, it's broken in the fact that the computer can't detect anything, no matter what I insert that is a 44 pin hard drive.

Even if it were a 12 gigabyte hard drive, it should have detected at least something of 100 or 504 MB (due to CHS limitations).

The drive powers up, but once again, nothing works. And I've tested the drives I've tried on other systems, and they all work fine.

>>60742052
Oh, I see, it's a shitty adapter, nothing to do with CF cards.
That fucking sucks and that's from a ThinkPad? Man, all of the "quality" laptops out there and it has to have such a flaw.

>>60727827
why not drill one big hole for the speaker instead?

>>60735331
I think your 240X has a different hard drive adapter....
Have you tried forcing the master or slave jumpers on the CF board?

In fact, I think that's what the wire mod for the 760 does. Force the opposite polarities for the master and slave selections.

>>60742493
Didn't have the tools? Most likely.
Second idea is that he wanted some kind of protection.

Or both.

>>60741534
Pretty cool, not very useful tho?

>>60741866
Might be some sort of hack to force the drive to function as master or something. Without the mod in place, the drive is probably defaulting to slave or some other invalid state.

>>60742553
Yeah, I tried that. Next thing Im going to try is booting an installer from floppy disks

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Post your most special (not just rare, but the machines you are most proud of, most beefed up, most expanded, etc) retro machines! I'm curious.

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>>60744832
My most distinguished retro machine is the same as pic related (not my picture). I -think- it's the same model, but I'm not 100% sure. Looks exactly like it though. 486DX2-66 and 12MB RAM IIRC.

No special work done to it, in fact it's been sitting in storage non-operational for the past decade and a half. No expansion cards or HDD, just the floppy drive, mobo/CPU/RAM, PSU, and an old mouse in a bag stuffed in the drive bay where the CD-ROM used to be. I'd pulled the drives and sound card to use in the Pentium 100 machine that replaced it, which is also sitting in storage right next to it.

Part of me wants to restore it, but I don't really have the time, money or space to do so right now.

>>60735551
that isn't retro, that's just junk.

>>60745058
>DEC
Muh DIK! Restore it!

>>60745105
One mans junk is another mans retro.
Most people would say that everything in these threads is junk.

>>60739060
Not trying to be mean, but that looks really bad for a monochrome monitor, old age?

>>60745340

Probably using the C64's composite video out rather than RGB, the former looks like utter arse.

>>60736281
been running lubuntu on one of these machines till this february got it way back in 2005? worked like a champ ... i look for a way to repurpose the hardware

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>>60744832
I've rescued a lot of cool weird shit over the years that I'll never part with but this motherfucker is hands down my favorite. When it was still the fastest Windows system you could waste five figures on in 1999 it was the centerpiece of some shiny new school media lab/tax money laundering operation and 15 years later I ended up paying $5 for it at a thrift store hundreds of miles away, this summer it's getting tricked out with two more Xeon 500/1Ms, a pair of Barracuda 50s and maybe a RAM upgrade along with the 1600SW and all the other peripherals I'm missing for it.
>>60745105
People said the same about the fleets of XTs, ATs and PS/2s that were lining the crusher in the '90s, or the dumb terminals, or the mass market 8-bits, or the entry level 386 and 486 consumer systems lots of people love to play with and post about in these threads. If it's too old to justify discussing in a typical thread, it belongs here.

>>60727573
Is this a woz original?

>>60745939
The most retro thing I own by that standard is a 2.4Ghz P4 NetVista that's only retro because 'muh IBM badge'.

>>60746029
And the 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 is 15 years old since April, not very capable of running new software and is old enough to carry some nostalgic attachment for some /g/ posters. If you've got a nice one you really love messing with and want to post about, I wouldn't complain at all, and if it's uninteresting to others, they don't have to reply.

Bitching about what is and isn't "retro" is the reason the /vr/ threads were fucking circlejerking garbage.

>>60746094
No, the reason /vr/ is shit is because it's a SA exclave.

>>60746113
Whatever, I really don't give a shit. Just take that bullshit somewhere else.

>>60746149
What you don't like console vs PC shitstorms?

>>60746198
Did that actually happen in those threads? Every time I visited it was just a bunch of boring 8-bit discussion and it felt like mentioning anything else would get pretty much no response or be shitposted out of the thread unless I worded it right. I never really cared for games anyway.

>>60746198
>>60746273
I don't know if /vr/ has/had PC vs console arguments but I distincly remember seeing shitflinging identical to modern /v/ dated as far back as 1989 mailing lists and BBS.

>>60745390
C64 never had RGB only separate luma/chrome (nonstandard s-video) and that also looks like ass for monochrome composite. Monochrome composite is indistinguishable from RGB.

/g/ /retro/ only goes to shitpost in /vr/ /retro/
that is a autistic place and the rules are the biggest part of it

>>60746273
I followed a link to a retro PC gaming thread there like a week ago where someone asked if PCs were more powerful than consoles in the 90s. Someone tried to explain the difference between raw horsepower and task-dedicated hardware and the concept flew right over everyone's heads. I closed the tab after that.

>>60746554
/vr/ is mostly tech illiterate, it's useless to talk about such concepts with them

>>60746475
>that also looks like ass for monochrome composite.
I'm talking about the picture and not luma/chroma, just saying to avoid confusion.

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>>60744832
That would be a hard pick but I'd probably go with my Dell Dimension XPS D266, because that's the one I've upgraded the most.

I'm still hunting for an IBM PC/AT 5170 because that's the machine of my childhood. That machine was completely maxed out. Cpu overclocked, max ram, and a whole bunch of high end cards.

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>>60746734
Reminds me of the Dimension XPS 766r I gutted to build my current computer. Thing used RAMBUS, which angered me

>>60747616
Hows the 960 FTW? I used to run a 650Ti SSC, which solidified me as an EVGA shill forever. Over three years at 88c+ and a pretty hefty OC. I have a GTX1070 FTW now.

>>60747616
I have a soft spot for old beige cases

Kind of a shame no one makes new beige retro-styled cases.

>>60747821
Oh boy, I'd use my Spectra a lot more if the film packs weren't so god damn expensive.

>get a mid-age Pentium case dated around 1995 or so
>"perfect, this will fit my 486 board just fine"
>3 thin plates hold the board up, only two standard screw sockets are present
>rest of it looks like it was held by some weird buttons
>"what could possibly go wrong"
>the front plate is too far that it budges and prevents ISA cards from going in
>can do nothing about it, no attempt to move the plate slightly back works
>don't have anything to cut the metal
Welp, there goes my enjoyment for this week

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>>60741774
Thank you srsly thank you. It kinda worked. It spinned correctly this time but with this plugged in the PC said that the controller or the HDD was damaged. I tried all the possible connections (because the cables were reverseble) but it didn't change The HDD spinned it made some clicking noises. I guess its dead but you were actually right. The pic is with the HDD and the card removed.

>>60748323
Maybe you just have to enter the geometry settings in the BIOS setup. Now, doing that without a keyboard may prove quite a hard thing to do.

>>60747673
I like it. Its got the best performance of any video card Ive ever owned, and it runs pretty cool, so no complaints there. Im on Linux though, and my biggest issue is the closed-source firmware/driver

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>>60748562
I am total noob on these kind of PCs what are the geometry settings ? Does this photo helps ? Also i should mention that when i plug the HDD and the controller card it does not prompt the bios menu but it prints an error message. So i should change the bios settings before entering the HDD ?

>>60748662
that label is just a factory defect chart (sectors that were bad ootb)
check if the bios of your machine support auto-detection of CHS settings, maybe there's DOS software that can do it as well, not sure

>>60743521
as useful as any server with a 80x25 text terminal connected to it. i use it with an sdf.org unix shell account

>>60748848
But something like a N900 can easily do that too without all the extra dongles

>>60747963
Those cases are not hard to come by though

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>>60744832
This question is still relevant!
Tnx for the interesting reads btw!

>>60747913
Get a Fujifilm instant camera. Film is a lot cheaper.

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>>60749143
OK

>>60749193
Those things are humongous and ugly as fuck. Also, I'm not too keen on the fixed focus thing. I went from a 635 to the Spectra and it made a world of difference.

Also, Instax are fucking expensive for what they are. Oh, and the prints are tiny.

>>60747616
>Thing used RAMBUS, which angered me
Sounds like the best part of it, every Rambus box I've ever owned kicks the shit out of SDRAM systems for most every day tasks. Who cares about the jewry in 2017 when the entire system is worth $20 now?

>>60749595
That latency, though. Also it got BTFO by DDR immediately afterward, and given it was already DDR itself it couldn't rely on that trick to catch up.

>>60750180
Is it just me or is sys.4chan.org timing out on larger posts?

ASUS PVI-486SP3
Enh. Am486DX4-120
(Rev.B4 chipset is crucial for >500mb support. Also PCI jumper left on full clock because fuck running it at 20MHz)
64MB RAM
2x 4GB CF cards w/CF to IDE adapters
CDROM
5 1/4" & 3.5" floppy
SB Awe32
Matrox Millenium
Macronix 100-Fast
USR V.90
Standalone MSDOS 7.1 for FAT32 support
Also WFW 3.11 for shiggles and CoTW

>>60750257
Meant to link >>60744832
Nevermind, I think 4chan doesn't like mentioning a certain ini file by name. Weird it didn't throw back an error page though.

Abit BH6
Slot-1 PIII 1GHz
786MB RAM (ini vcache tweak'd)
120GB SSD w/ IDE-to-SATA adapter
DVD-RW
LS-120 & regular 3.5" floppy
Aureal Vortex 2
Voodoo5 5500
Realtek GigE
Win98SE

...and C64 w/JiffyDOS and 1541 Ultimate-II cartridge.

Considering getting an Apple IIgs to rice the fuck out of, but while I wanted to get one when I was younger I never actually did so I have no nostalgia for it.

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>>60727427

>>60749071
Anything older than the Pentium 4 is rarer than unicorn tears in the midwestern U.S.

>>60751391
same here in the south

the only place where beige boxes grow on trees is in silicon valley

>>60752428
Same for north east US, ain't see shit round here

>>60742493
>>60742568
I think it's supposed to be a Speaker Grill

>>60747893
Same here anon

>>60728281
>>60728282
>>60728358
the funny thing is that even despite all of this 90s tech you can tell that it isn't a genuine setup from that decade, precisely because back then no one had all of this shit at once in a given time.

>>60728294

>files last modified in 1956

wew

>>60732008
It looks like something you'd find in some fancy toilet. Still comfy though.

>>60731719
Sweet. This system was purchased form a PC recycler for like $35 bucks. Had to reseat the motherboard, added in a SCSI drive and works like a champ.

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>>60752804
yeah it looks more like a museum exhibit

>>60752804
idk, in the early 2000's i had a 14" crt tv in my room, and on shelves around it i had a bunch of consoles mostly hooked up (didn't have AV switches, just plugged in what i wanted to use manually)
psone, master system II, n64, snes, saturn..

>>60753777
my point is, in almost every household you have some tech that originated in different times, often decades apart from each other. You rarely have tech exclusively from one specific point in time, especially when it's a cross-section of everything available in that given time. That's what makes it look like an exhibit.
I'm sure you had something that didn't fit the era, like no rotary phone and a cell phone instead, router or a modem, etc.

>>60753908
>I'm sure you had something that didn't fit the era
well my setup wasn't intended to be any kind of era thing, the psone in particular was pretty new
it was just like that for convenience and the fact i liked to play older games

>>60753961
-- oh, and a 14" colour crt tv wasn't out of place at the time either
they were pretty common for bedrooms actually, could still be bought in stores, etc
mine in particular wasn't very new, but it didn't really mean anything, there's really not much difference between one 14" colour PAL tv and the next 14" colour PAL tv

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>>60753908
yeah I'm kinda going for that museum look >>60753546 just to display the things I've collected. It gives it a nice aesthetic atmosphere.

at least it's more presentable than when everything was on folding tables and rubbermaid bins kek

>>60752804
I had several computers in the 90's, proper hi-fi (several grand), a few consoles and a Sony Trinitron CRT.

So yeah, that's the least unrealistic part.

>>60753908
Bitch please, he has a Apple IIc and a Mac 3G, how the fuck is it "from one specific point in time."
You're really bad at noticing things and specially from what time they are from.

>>60754558
well, I didn't examine those pics thoroughly desu, just gave it an overall look

>>60754019
Comfy!

>>60750330
>120GB SSD w/ IDE-to-SATA adapter
why not use a PCI SATA controller? way faster then the adapter

Not really retro but I thought I'd let out some steam and this thread seems perfect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBfDlXZBSgo

Why the fuck gut it and replace it with a different display if it IS a CRT already? Holy shit what's wrong with hipsters(?) today that they can't hack shit but only do sleeper builds.

>>60755735
was it dead or something?

>>60755827
everything is "dead" for them if it doesn't turn on the first time, like the faggot gutting a Osborne 1 because hurr faulty DRAM too hard to replace

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>>60755735
>widescreen display
>for a retro gaming emulator box

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>>60755928
>gutting a Osborne 1 because hurr faulty DRAM

>>60756312
this

>>60755956
You ain't seen shit.

>>60746554
Reminds me how they argued that PAL is 20% slower, that all PAL games run 20% slower (actually it's just shitty ports), they could not comprehend the idea that a game can run at the same speed internally with just drawing 10 less frames to the display.

>>60755586
Resource conflicts.
It's already way faster than the old IDE drive anyway.

>>60736160
>made with real sugar is a "throwback" to americans

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>>60755735

>>60728282
80's/90's were super comfy because tech actually furnished homes easily. nowadays people's homes look depressing with their "minimalism"

>>60758471
I unironically get angry whenever I look at anything beige. For some reason the more I stare at it the more I want to wreck it.

What's a cool vintage computing youtube channel? I just started following the 8-bit guy.

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>>60758767
meme-grade
>druaga1

review-grade
>Lazy Game Reviews
>TanRu Nomad
>8 bit guy
>techmoan
>The Obsolete Geek
>PhilsComputerLab
>Jason's Macintosh Museum
>Dan Wood - kookytech.net
>databits

tinker-grade
>bbishoppcm
>vwestlife
>appleontheapex
>WaybackTECH
>Devin2277

legit-grade
>CuriousMarc
>cccbdexter (Philipp Maier)

>>60759408
you forgot ITTFami

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>>60762542
falls under meme-grade

>>60758007
>Resource conflicts.
How come, by your list nothing should conflict that isn't easily remappable.

This isn't a PC-XT with hardware mapped resources.

>>60762647
>win 9x
>simple remapping ever

The PCI adapter I've got insists on either clobbering the Vortex in DOS mode or taking the parallel port. Try to move those and the Matrox tries to eat the parallel instead. I just said fuck it and used the adapter. I need that ECP port for my Zip disks and an old Gameboy linker.

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>>60758707

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3OlkwESmYM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8okeQTarLs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT22nWCSH9U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drj6PwbzEk4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp_xAXKkhTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO-DZBpVv8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwymyb6gZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA3Y28jCbps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC3j2_EqNis

Enjoy.

>>60763203
Fair enough, not _perfect_ but does the job

>>60763203
>Matrox
Derp. Meant the Voodoo.

>>60763336
You sure love your Matrox

>>60763205
*hugs nearest beigebox and slowly moves it away from your post*

>>60759408
>no goddamn uxwbill
How could you

>>60758101
>famously still made with sugar in Mexico
>didn't call it Pepsi Wetback

>>60763203
>IRQ conflicts
>Handled by the OS
Uwot? You should be able to change PCI IRQs in the BIOS.

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Those have been some nice threads over the last couple of days.
Anyways I'm going to sleep.

Would be nice to see a new threads when this one reaches bump limit!

>>60763402
Best fucking 2D card ever. I've had it for years, used to be paired with a voodoo2 on my Celery way back.

>>60763205
I love how these videos are always made by spoiled kids who just got their parents' old Macs. Really stimulates my neurons.

>300 posts
you know what that means

>>60763774
I know what 310 posts mean

>>60763645
I checked my BIOS options thoroughly. The BH6 bios allows you limited shuffling only and some ports are shared no matter what so certain cards have to go in certain physical slots to avoid that. That and it's pants on head retarded about dealing with conflicts between the PCI and ISA busses. Believe me, I know exactly what this board is capable of and how it works. I've had it for around 18 years, originally to run a heavily OC'd Celeron 300A.

>>60735115
It always bothers me that modern cases have all these builder-friendly features like thumbscrews and drive rails, but the slide-out motherboard tray has completely died out. My first PC build was in a case like that I found in my mom's basement, and I credit the mobo tray with my success at never crushing a bare Athlon die.

>>60755735
Unlike this guy, at least I had a good reason to disassemble my Dimension (see >>60735551 ).

>>60763572
>Not knowing there's actual Mexican Pepsi sold in the US in glass bottles.

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>>60736119
hey fellow person without color can I borrow your trackball?

>>60763205
at least they only do it to low-end shitboxes they can buy with their tendie funds

>>60766648
Wut.
Quadras were high-end. Performas and machines like the LC III were low-end.

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>>60755956
>>60757109
>You ain't seen shit.

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>>60767004
that ones even worse, as it's not even your average dev kit, but an early, pre-final-hardware kit

this is what a typical dev kit looked like

>>60767004
It's over memed though, the addition of the data from that drive would not have helped much with anything. Like implied that it would have magically spawned an emulator and several game source ports, just imagination of hippy tippy hipsters. Several people who have worked on projects for the original Xbox emulator have had access to development kit data.

But it is retarded to see that he did wreck it without any (he did know it was a devkit) knowledge what it was worth, specially because he was poor and wanted a gayming rig but didn't know how much he could have gotten for selling it instead.

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Alright Ladies(boi) and Retroman!

NEW THREAD BITCHES!

>>60767122

>>60767122

>>60767122

>>60767090
the contents of the hdd would be cool to have, but i'm more annoyed by the mistreatment of rare hardware

and while it doesn't happen every time, people have found games, released or unreleased, in incomplete or effectively-complete form on dev hardware before
the XDK has been leaked since forever though, that much isn't a concern

>>60766648
There was this retard that destroyed an Apple IIe, (which isn't that bad by itself because the IIe is the least rare), BUT it was chock full of extremely rare and expensive expansion cards.

He should be hanged by the neck until dead for his crimes

>>60767150
>the contents of the hdd would be cool to have, but i'm more annoyed by the mistreatment of rare hardware
Amen, brother.

>>60767153
>He should be hanged by the neck until dead for his crimes
Amen, brother.

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>>60767004
>dat custom xbox-only nvidia geforce3-like gpu on a plain AGP card
>lying on fucking carpet

>>60766948
only looked at he first few that were shit like classics and LCs, even then there were some really shitty late era quadras too, they occupied pretty much every segment by the end

>>60767366
dosen't matter, Quadra = high end, even if it's a low end line of a high end product

>>60767449
there was even the Quadra 605, which used the same case as the LCII...

>>60767776
It's just similar, but it's actually one of the only Macintoshes to have it's own case that didn't share it with another lineup.

The 605 is a entry level Quadra, aka entry level high-end machine.

>>60767449
>>60767893
>Quadra = high end
that's just marketing, I'm talking about reality, the Quadra may have been their "high end" line but in terms of what they actually had and what they could actually do the likes of the 605 and 610 for example were maybe lower mid-range at best and their offerings were all over the fucking place and pretty cheap, there's nothing high-end about anything you could have for under $3000 back then

>>60768279
Except the price and that's the point

>>60768300
what do you mean by "except the price"? entry-level Quadras were incredibly affordable, the 605 base price was only $900 and a usable configuration would probably still only have run you under $2,000, that's fucking nothing

>>60768630
>incredibly affordable
Did you work at Apple in the '90s? Seriously, I've never seen anyone defend their old three billion overlapping product lines this much before. And nobody outside the Apple marketing team uses terms like "Incredibly Affordable™"

>>60768279
In reality they where high-end. Doesn't matter they where actually not capable. It does not make your claim that they are "low end shitboxes" true.

>>60767776
>which used the same case as the LCII...
it did not

>>60768279
they where low-end for Quadra lineup, but they where way more expandable than their lower end lineup counterparts

>>60768720
???
the marketing position of the later Quadras were incredibly confusing and that's my point, they weren't necessarily "high end" just from the name in anything but how they were marketed
>>60768732
>Doesn't matter they where actually not capable.
yeah it does, that's the whole fucking point of "high end", fucking nobody, not even Apple would tell you that a piece of shit fleet box like the 605 was "high end"
>>60768755
the entry-level Quadras were practically LCs with '040s in them, that's a bullshit claim

>>60768806
>the entry-level Quadras were practically LCs with '040s in them, that's a bullshit claim
>bigger max RAM and VRAM
>a '040 instead of a '030
>i-its b-bulshit
k

>>60768826
>"but they where way more expandable than their lower end lineup counterparts"
>literally just a PDS slot and no room for additional storage, once again, practically a fucking LC with a 68040
what you're talking about isn't "expandability" beyond the point about RAM capacity, which is certainly true but not usually what comes to mind