/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>60652430
wh-where did you get that picture of me?

>>60652443

Fuck off, you pedophilic weeaboo manchild

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I don't know if this question belongs here, if not, ignore me or let me know

I've just purchased these nice headphones, and now I need a DAC
I don't have tons of money so the best price/quality DAC that you can think of may be helpful.

Something good enough to boost the quality to acceptable levels, not too expensive and for PC use

Thank you beforehand

>>60652464
anime website

>>60652465
Yeah but at least it's not bass heavy. All the frequency graphs I looked at for closed back over ear headphones show that the ones with prominent treble also have prominent bass. To be expected because the seal of closed back lends it's self to bass

>>60652506
You don't need an external DAC.

>>60652506
>now I need a DAC
no you don't

>>60652513
It's a mongolian knitting site you autistic weeaboo.

>>60652538
anime website

>>60652540
Lmao. Full defence.

>>60652568
anime website

>>60652568
>>60652573
oh wait ur british u probably cant read that
aenime webcite

>>60652520
>>60652525
are you saying that an external DAC isn't worth it?
wouldn't it boost quality comparing it to an average laptop?

>>60652581
Lmao. Faggot brits btfo'd.

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>>60652513
>>60652540
>>60652573
Name one (1) anime.

>>60652609
aria the animation

>>60652597
Nope. If you don't hear any audible hissing/static/noise, you don't need a DAC.

Is it true that shitty audio (Jewtube tier) sounds even worse with decent hardware or is that another audiophile meme?

>>60652621
that's good to know, thank you fella

>>60652644
The better the headphones, the more shit you can pick up, I think.

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>Budget
200 tops
>Location
Canada, unfortunately must be from Best Buy (using gift card)
>Source
FiiO E10K Olympus 2
>Type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Prefer Closed
>Comfort level
Not an issue, really don't care
>Sound signature
Not a big deal
>Past headphones
ATH M40X, loved them so much, were stolen and might buy again but are there better options?

Also I listen to a lot of post punk, art rock, noisy stuff, but also lots of vidya

pic related is an awful pair I wore for a year before I ascended

>>60652644
It sounds better on better equipment but you can hear the flaws with better clarity.

>>60652581
jej

>>60652663
hd569

Aww shucks.
Pls read.
>>60652865

HD600.

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I need need more opinions, /hpg/. AKG Q701s, or...

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>>60653063
...BeyerDynamic DT 880 Chromes.

What do you guys think about Audio-Technica ATH-PRO700MK2 or something in the range of $230. Also no DAC

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/7315cfab0d558604/

>>60653063
>>60653073
DT880 blacked.

Q701 has inconsistent earpad sealing and a wonky treble response.

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>>60652883
I can't help you at all but I want you to know you're not being ignored.

So I bought the SHP9500S few days ago.
These headphones are actually alright. I don't really have any some form of regret after buying them anymore. Just had to listen to some other genre of music to appreciate these bad boys.
Super comfy and the sound feels good.

>>60653327
Thank you. That's actually very kind.
Uhh to offer my 2 cents I really enjoyed my Sony MDR 7506. Just a heads up. If you're at a desk where the cord really doesn't have anywhere to sit, you're gonna knock them off a lot. They took a hell of a beating before one of the ears stopped playing.
Loving my sennheiser hd 598 cs right now. Although I don't enjoy the short cord, the longer one is only for the big headphone jacks, of which, my computer has none and since I'm a faggot and can't fix my computer's front headphone jack, it now sits sideways so it can reach. But this is because I'm too lazy to order a plugin so it'll fit my computer.

I'm hoping you guys can help me since I got no replies in the stupid question thread.
I got a pair of sennheiser 558's and I'm confused about which bit and hz to choose in windows.
The default is 16 bit 44100hz (cd quality)

>>60653575
Just choose the highest one and get it over with

I'm trying to choose between the NVX XPT100 and the ATH-MSR7 for an entry into this meme.
Are the extra shekels worth it, or is it well past the point of diminishing returns?

Are Dacs and such worth it? I have the X2, and its generally ok, but will a dac improve my sound or is it just placebo?

>>60653628
Lie to yourself like this. Say you're going to buy the NVX XPT100s this week, but don't. Then when next week rolls around, I hope you get to keep at least $100 of what you make a week for toys, buy the ATH-0MSR7s on the principle that you would have spent ~$100 last week, but you didn't and now you have it + your cash now to buy the better ones.
Plus the retail therapy will kick in and you'll feel better for buying big boy headphones, nothing against the NVX XPT100s, but when you spend more money you feel like you have nicer stuff.

At least that's how I do it.

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Sleeved my K7xx and ModMic cable together today.
Worked pretty well but I couldn't find a good way to seal the ends of the mesh.
Don't think I can get shrink wrap big enough and the Velcro cable organizers look tacky.

What do you guys think?

>>60653828
i think that velcro actually looks fairly nice.

Did the ATH-M50x go up in price or what? It's $50 more compared to a few years ago...

Looking for a replacement for my shitty JVC HARX700's btw. Preferably something with a removable/easily replaceable audio cord, since I've had two HARX700's and each time the cord/plug went fubar on me.

>>60653522
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/accessories--adapter--jack-plug--gold

>>60653897
Oh shit! Thanks, mate!
Last one I looked at was $20.

>>60653671
Actually read the thread friendo, the answer will be revealed.

>>60653928
You're welcome, Anon. It's the same one that comes with the HD 650, and it's quite nice and flexible.

That link actually seems to be out of stock, so you could order this one instead: https://en-us.sennheiser.com/adapter-hd-650

It's a different model number, but seems to be the same thing.

>>60653870
M40x is the better deal now.
If you don't want shitty pads, go for the CB-1. A lot of people recommend the XPT100/HM5.

For a step up, DT770 is how the M50x tries to sound and very comfy.

>>60654039
Purchased.

Is snapheiser anon at school lel?

>>60654367
Oh, is he absent from your class?

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>>60652430
I can see it.

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>>60650258
Thank you, anon.

>>60652430
I wonder what she listens to...

>>60652625
I liek Boruto.

Sony MDR-1A currently 124€ on sale on Amazon.de in case someone cares.
Bought them as portable headphones and thought i share the sale.
What am i in for?

>>60656058
>MDR-1A
Disappointment.

>>60652506
Schiit Fulla 2 is very good value per price.

>>60656328
That's what i fear. I'm used to DT770/990 but wanted something cheap and mobile. Decided on those after Zeos review and sale.

>>60656388
>unironically watching z review
You deserve it.

>>60656464
What's wrong with it? Is it simply because your autism doesn't like it?

Are multi driver IEMs a meme

>>60656388
Did you watch any other Z review? They do strongly recommend every product they review, no matter what.
In short, they're useless for determining which product to actually get.

>plug in headphones
>no noise
>plug in earphones
>unbearable white noise
Would a DAC fix this? Since I don't get any noise with my phone that means it has a much better DAC doesnt it?

>>60657169
>Since I don't get any noise with my phone that means it has a much better DAC doesnt it?
Or not. The computer's might be better. But that's irrelevant if they screwed up and didn't isolate it properly. Effectively, you're getting shit noise, so yeah... your phone does it better.
Thankfully, solving this issue is as easy as spending a little money. I suggest the Schiit Fulla 2. Note they don't sell these on amazon, Schiit is a company that does direct sales, which is why its devices do not cost twice as much as they do. And yes, the name really is a joke on shit, but they make good hw.

>>60657145
No, only because the guy is tech illiterate and a shill.

BTW upvoted you bro!

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>starting the thread with a retarded anime girl

>>60657149
You obviously haven't watched a vid of him. He shits all over the MX50 for example.

>>60657255
>tech illiterate shill
Nice opinion, retard.
Simply because i watch YouTube reviews i am not from reddit you retarded fuck. Take your autism back to >>>/b/.

>>60657296
I did watch a bunch, they were as I described. I obv didn't watch every last video of him, because pointless.

>>60652506
>I've just purchased these nice headphones
Hope those M50x weren't what you bought.

>>60657310
>t. Z review guy

>>60657339
>hurr i dont know what to say so i better start name calling him durr
Pure autism. Explain why exactly you dislike it or gtfo you braindead tool.

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How harsh or treble-heavy are the Sony MDR 7506s for casual listening? The only reference I have are Creative Aurvana Live headphones which are mellow but break easily time and time again which is why I wanted to switch.

>>60657211
Fuck off Schill
Schitt has been caught astroturfing and they do it frequently on 4chan

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how long do headphone drivers usually last? I've had my hd25s for about 8 yrs now, 8-12 hrs every day max volume pretty much. wondering if they'll just poop out on me soon.

>>60657749
>unironically suggests some company called shit would shill @ 4chan

Is Steelseries Artic 3 any good.

>>60658149
Nope

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>>60658166
Please explain.

How long will the 600's be selling for 288? Should I jump on the deal now or do they sell for cheap often?

>>60658048
It's always the cables that die before the drivers at least for me.

>>60658481
well the cables cost $20 to replace, had to twice now. but that's not a big deal, the drivers are $100 each.

Thank god we're back to 2D OPs

>>60658381
>How long will the 600's be selling for 288?
Not long.
>should I jump on the deal
Yes. It's the fucking HD600, and that cheap.

Hey hpg, my old amplifier just came, i am the guy who decided to get the hd600 for music, vr, asmr use
and hook them to a good old amplifier that my father used to use for his speaker system.
So the model is hk6300 and now i'm looking on how to connect it to my computer.
He used to use a 3.5mm male - 2x RCA male for audio input for his phone/laptop, would that work well?
The amp on the back just has a bunch of RCA females so there doesn't seem to be any alternative to that.

579 or 569?

>>60659646
Fair enough, will order them soon then.
I know I've seen people say otherwise, but is the Fulla 2 enough to drive them?

>>60658048
If you treat them well and arent exposed to moisture often, they can last decades. I've had my 770's for nearly two decades now.

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Just bought these. Did I fuck up?

>>60660804
probably

>>60660670
care to post a picture dad?

>>60661079
of what

>>60660804
No,not at all.

>>60661091
He probably wants a picture of your DT770's

>US
> budget around >100
anyone know any good travel/commuting headphones?

>>60661475
I'm a fucking idiot. <$100 I mean

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>>60652430
So are we all just going to pretend we can't see this anime whore's cunt?

Why is the k712 so much more expensive than the k7xx?

Some grey party importer has then for $225, do they make counterfeit ones or am I just giving up on the warranty?

>>60661925
You're just giving up the warranty

>>60652430
why is she crying
what did you do

>>60660255
Plenty.

Need iems, budget ~150$, MMCX connectors preferred, good build cause i'm a little careless with my stuff, also would help if you can tell me the diameter, cause i'm also gonna get some tips.

>>60661690
sakurako u lazy cunt >>60655155

>>60662024
sound signature?

Would a k702 for $120, relatively new, be a good deal?

Using an X2 with Fulla 2 now, wanted to try out a different signature and fit.

>>60662565
That's a pretty damn good deal

>>60662064
Neutral, also soundstage is a big plus.

>>60662611
Etymotic makes really good neutral iems, you could try researching them.

>>60662611
GR07 Classic/Bass Edition with detachable cable

Oh god, first time using my hd 600s after 10 years of shitty headsets...
Requesting audiophile tearing up pic.

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>>60662929

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>>60662982
Close enough

>>60654518
I gave up since the streak was broken. Shame too; I had new OC to post.

>>60662929
They're a little too tight on my head tho, hopefully i can open them up a bit more.

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>>60663469
HeheheheSNAP

>>60663469
Bend the metal adjusters a little to helo with the clamp
https://youtu.be/iNxK-NwSR5U

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Poorfag version of these?

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chiru.no radio brought to you by the SR-007s of superiority

https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

You will be blessed with better headphones but only if you listen to Cirno Radio

>>60662929
You've reached the peak, anon.

>>60663844
Oh god, what a hideous design.

>>60663844
Depends how poor you wanna go.
$170 - Custom Studios
$150-$100 : AKG K545/550/553 or M50X or M40X + new pads
<$50 : Superlux HD 669

>>60661690
I can't see it.

>>60652655
he's retarded, don't listen to him. any good dac is miles ahead of onboard audio.

>>60664222
Thanks.

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Come have fun while we hopefully figure out how the Bottlehead Crack Speedball is put together. Dubs are guaranteed as well.

>>60663831

>>60664222
How are those even similar?

Any way to know for sure if my headphones are slightly louder on the left driver ? Ive tried switching sides but I really can't tell because I feel like it's a really small difference, or maybe the songs i'm listening to are unbalanced, anyway, any advice appreciated. Cans in question are hd600s.

>>60664730
are you sure it isn't your ears, anon? i have similar experiences listening to music sometimes on a lot of headphones

>>60664724
V-Shaped, Detachable cable (depends on the AKG Model) and somewhat portable.

>>60664730
The HD600s are known to have bad channel matching. I wouldn't worry about it.

>>60664431
Can you stop these shitty blanket statements? Nothing inherently wrong with "on board". Motherboards can have a good DAC, an excellent even. The chip being inside your PC isn't telling of the the quality just like having an external unit isn't necessarily any better. DA-converter is just about the least of the worries in a modern audio setup. Being better is relative, nobody knows a damn thing about the gear at question here.

>>60664793
Known based on what? The three graphs on the Internet which have been endlessly posted here?

>>60664845
>Known based on what? The three graphs on the Internet which have been endlessly posted here?
Yes.

>>60664730
And also shoud I contact Sennheiser about it ? How is their RMA ? Purchased them on December in Europe but i'm not currently there.

>>60664730
Listen to it in reverse, is it still there?

Trolls aside, the HD600 has excellent channel matching:

https://clarityfidelity.blogspot.com/2016/04/sennheiser-hd-600-over-ear-headphones.html

>>60664922
>1 measurement
>vs many others which show the opposite
Nice cherry picking brev

>>60664997
https://www.0db.co.kr/xe/REVIEW_0DB/534?ckattempt=1

Have another.

>>60664859
Nice sample size.

>>60664905
help p p p

>>60665440
do more testing and determine if it's really there

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>>60665149
That's pretty bad, anon. Look at that treble.

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>>60665567
Yeah, HD600 is pretty garbage, just look how great these Q701s are at driver matching.

Can we please not start posting these plots again? They don't tell you shit about how a specific headphone that has been mass produced in tens of thousands will be matched L/R on average.

Are high quality closed headphones a meme?

I-I just got a pair of Samsons SR850 , did I fug up?

>>60666042
If you don't mind bright headphones, they're good

>>60666320
Thanks. I'm taking my first steps into this. I'm liking their sound although I prefer warmer/fuller sounds if that makes any sense? I EQ'd the two highest frequencies a bit down and two lowest a notch up.
My first time listening to open ears too, it's a bit weird not being "hugged" by the sound

>>60665857
You can't use those words in that order to form a question. Try again.

>>60666422
When you get used to the soundstage, there's no going back.

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>>60665661
hah

>>60665661
>Yeah, the HD600 is pretty garbage
>Just take a look at these unrelated headphones
What the fuck?

>>60662929
I probably recommended HD600 to you. I'm glad it went well :)

Re-asking: Where the hell do I put an antlion modmic base on the superlux 668b?

>>60663469
Day 0 they're like that. In a couple days they'll stop hurting. In a few weeks, they won't feel pressing anymore.
Don't force-stretch anything like some people will surely suggest. Just let them stretch naturally on your head.

>>60663935
if you heard binetsu kara mystery, aa mujou and/or blue symphony today, you know who to blame. :^)

>>60652597
Yes it would, as the average computer audio output is crap. Just don't spend $1k on it. A dac+amp usb combo works best.

>>60664730
>>60664793
>bad matching.
Only very old HD600. They do match them well these days.
>how do I ensure...
Most likely your ears, particularly as you reversed them.
>I can't tell...
The lower the volume, the most likely you'll notice volume differences.

>>60667137
Probably on the Superlux logo or the little bit thatsays 668B (Left or right tip of the cups, whichever you prefer)

>>60667208
>Only very old HD600. They do match them well these days.
Prove it, bitch nigga. You can't. You won't. Pussy.

At what price point do headphones go from reasonable, objective gains to tiny increments and crystal lithography voodoo?

>>60667391
It's already been proven in this thread, faggot.

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Anyone know where I can get another legit pair of these? Seems like they got discontinued but I've heard the new model is a lot worse quality.

>>60667704
Anything more expensive than HD600.

>>60667897
>t. never owned anything more expensive

>>60667938
>t. not made stupid purchase such as something worse than HD600 at 5x the price
>t. no need to try and justify such a dumb thing.

>>60667957
I rest my case :)

>>60667704
Probably anything past $400 or so

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What's the best chink USB sound card mates?
I heard the SOMAKE one used to be good, but that the newer version dropped in quality? Honestly, it seems like it would be too wide regardless and would make the adjacent port impossible to use anyway.

>>60667866
/csg/ can probably help you

>>60667850
What you meant to write was
>I can't
Bitch nigga.

If HD600 is such shit why hasn't anyone posted a better alternative?

>>60668614
Sennheiser shills will pull the "muh neutrality" out of their ass. It's all about preferences when it comes to headphones, some people may prefer a different sound signature to others.

>>60668614
HD600 bass is below average as far as I'm concerned. HE400i has great bass and is the same price. Only issue is QC.

>>60668614
There have been suggested alternatives, SennShills just keep shitting on then either way because 'Hurr durr HD 600 Endgame'. It's all just different preferences and signatures. I'd might as well list some alternatives.
K702/712
DT880
R70X
AD1000X/2000X
HD 650
A900Z

HE-400S or HD600? Pros and cons on both? They're priced the same where I'm from.

>>60668809
great bass but shit mids
>>60668940
hd600

>>60669282
mids are fine, retard

>Budget
$250, maybe? $300? I have no idea what I'm doing.
>Location
D.C.
>Source
Chinkpad
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy enough for all day use.
>Sound signature
I have no idea. I don't know what I have or want. I found one guide on Jewgle which was basically "just be urself :)".
>Past headphones
Shit. I'm currently using some cheap IEMs I found at the grocery store. White box. No labels. I have no idea. This entire post can be summed up as my lack of an idea. Don't drag me into the audiophile meme market. I want to buy one and be done until the death of the 3.5mm jack.

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>>60669303
>HE400i
the midrange is garbage

On a frequency chart, how can I tell the difference between midrange, treble and such?

>>60669449
I wouldn't waste time looking at a frequency response graphs. They are inherently flawed. You cannot possibly display all the traits of a headphone on a single visual plot. Headphones need to heard. Frequency response graphs don't tell you about the soundstage, the speed, the detail, the imaging of a headphone. If anything, it should be used as a basic idea of how a headphone's sound signature is.

>>60668940
shit meme headphone with shit QC vs legendary headphone unbeaten even after 20 years.

>>60669315
Check out the over $200 link on the /g/ wiki.

>>60669546
>Unbeaten even after 20 years
Lmao.

>>60669282
>>60669546
I keep reading about the sennheiser veil, its poor soundstage, and no bass.

Can all of those be alleviated by EQing?

>>60669587
Soundstage? No. Bass? Yes, but the crispiness still won't be there.

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>>60669563
I already tried that.

>>60669349
mids are fine, retard

>>60669895
>rollercoaster mids
>fine

jej

>>60669947
You really need to learn how to read these graphs.

>>60669967
>he doesn't know that upper mids are considered mids

Full. Fucking. Retard.

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>>60670048
Different strokes for different folks.

>>60670048
>rollercoaster mids
>fine

jej

>>60670092
Kek. What's up with the HD 600's driver matching?

>>60670092
What's the right one from?

>>60668893
Second on AD1000X. They sounded similar to HD600, own them, but with more emphasis on highs than bass. Not overdone highs tho, just with more focus really brining female vocals eps in weeb songs to the max. Main problem they have retarded pricing here in Europe.

>>60670139
HE 400i.

>>60670127
>Mids
>The only thing the HD 600 has
Feels bad

>>60670158
https://clarityfidelity.blogspot.com/2016/04/sennheiser-hd-600-over-ear-headphones.html

HD600's mids and treble conforms perfectly to the Harman curve.

>>60670214
Nah, it's way to bright for the harman curve. The harman curve's treble is all off anyways.

>>60669602
Damn. Is the lack of bass really that bad?

>>60670250
Ye, HD600 is basically unusable for EDM and that type of music.

>>60670250
The HD 600's using bass more as texture than anything else is probably the best way to describe it, if you can picture it that way.

HD600 has more sub-bass than my LSR-305s.

But I prefer the LSR-305s.

Just letting you faggots know that.

>>60670261
>>60670267
What does this mean for music with bass guitars? Even if they're not the focus, I want to at least hear them being plucked.

What about the soundstage when listening to classical music reproductions? Watching movies?

What are some headphones that come close to HD600's tonal balance but without its weaknesses?

>>60670387
How can the LSRs have literally less than no sub-bass?

>>60670415
There is more sub-bass on the HD600.

I ain't even meming.

>>60670404
>What does this mean for music with bass guitars? Even if they're not the focus, I want to at least hear them being plucked.
Bass guitars are fine, it's just EDM which focus on a lot of fast and I guess differently textured bass notes which suffer on the HD600.

>What about the soundstage when listening to classical music reproductions? Watching movies?
Soundstage is straight up shit on the HD600. If you like soundstage, look elsewhere.

>What are some headphones that come close to HD600's tonal balance but without its weaknesses?
HE400i, AKG K612, DT880, but they all have different weaknesses of their own.

>>60670404
Sorry, let me make this clearer; there is still bass on the HD 600s, but sub-bass is basically non-existent and bass as a whole isn't exactly hard hitting. The bass is still there, and you would still hear it, but it is never fully present. That's probably the best I can describe it; sorry.
>Soundstage
It's extremely narrow. Straight up. They're nice headphones for music, but for gaming, watching movies, and other activities, I would use other headphones.

>>60653575
24 bit 441 if possible

>>60670485
>but sub-bass is basically non-existent
Would disagree here, and see:
>>60670214

The sub-bass is rolled off, it's not non-existent. Get your terms right.

>>60670544
Nah, i'd still put it that way.

>>60670560
Then that's spreading misinformation.

>>60670569
Just an opinion; if you disagree, then that's fine.

>>60670576
Regular people get what you're trying to say when you say "sub-bass is non-existent". This autist on the other hand, I don't think he can be helped.

What sound signature do I want?
https://youtu.be/doEwWzMz99A

>>60667152
I tried doing that with my HD650, and was having daily headaches because of it. I think it was because of the pressure being put on my manly jawbone. I gently and evenly bent the metal clips a bit, and haven't had any issues since. Very comfortable now, and I love it so much!

>>60670465
>>60670485
>>60670544
HD600 bass and subbass is nonexistent and masked by its midbass hump. Your brain can actually perceive pitch without the fundamental frequency, so the bass HD600 shills hear is actually harmonic distortion. However, because your ears are bad at localizing low frequencies, HD600 autists will claim the harmonic distortion is "tighter, more accurate bass" and that it "sounds better and not muddy."

>>60670849
>the harmonic distortion is "tighter, more accurate bass" and that it "sounds better and not muddy."
I can't believe HD600 shills unironically believe this. What a joke.

>>60668059
Why don't you just get an external amp+dac? Or is that what you're referring to?

>>60670849
This is literally headphone broscience at its finest, I won't even bother responding to such levels of shitposting and misinformation.

Am I shilling the HD600? No. Defending it? Perhaps, as I own one. It has sub-bass, rolled off sub-bass. More than my JBL speakers.

Then again my phone earphones has more sub-bass than both of these items.

>>60671406
>it's broscience because I don't like it
Explain where he's wrong then.

>>60670465
From what I've gathered, the HE400i sounds very good but poor build quality.

I'm eyeing the DT880 now, but I've read contradicting review about tonal balance and the beyer's 8k peak.

I mainly listen to electronic, rock, pop---all mostly with female vocals, and classical.

I'd like to hear the thoughts of someone who have owned both the DT880 and HD600.

>>60672111
Also, wtf do people mean when a headphone is "fun" sounding. A fucking buzzword if I ever heard of one.

>>60663935
Nice iceland made amp there.

>>60672111
>From what I've gathered, the HE400i sounds very good but poor build quality.
Rather than poor build quality, it's more like a lottery. If you get a pair which works perfectly it'll most likely last quite a long time.

As someone who has owned all three, the HD600 handles sibilant songs much better than the DT880.

>Budget
$100 max
>Location
U.S.
>Source
Standard Aux port or preferably Bluetooth enabled.
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
No preference, borderline deaf anyways
>Comfort level
Comfort needed, glasses-freindly needed as well.
>Sound signature
N/A
>Past headphones
Turtle Beach XL1 (comfortable, goes over the ear)

My taste in music varies a lot, I listen to almost every genre.
I usually don't have much to spend, so shitty headphones in the past. My turtles I have plugged into my desktop and use on my Xbone.

>>60672133
V-shaped I think

>>60664730
Go check ears, thought my HD600 had imbalance, it was actually my ears kek.

>>60668614
Opinions are really hard to understand for this general.

>>60673080
So neutral and well-balanced it makes your ears the bottlenecks.
HD600 does never cease to impress.

seriously talking
I love my shure SE 215
but I'm listening to so much music every day
I wonder if it's worth getting more expensive equipment/in ears

I'm listening through my LG G4 phone or PC (I also have a FiiO portable amp but I can't notice a big difference so I don't use it)

is it possible to bring my listening experience to another level? What would I need? like a seperate high quality mp3 player or some shit? I'm a noob

>>60670250
It isn't. It has roll off, it notably lacks sub bass but it has boosted upper bass. It does not sound like "no bass" at all, not even bass light because of the boosted upper bass and rest of the response being quite neutral. This is /hpg/ hyperbole yet again. The headphones have extension down to 20 Hz with lowered sensitivity depending on the seal you get. Due to the design and clamping the headphone seals very well once realized ears. If you are worried, use an equalizer or pick another pair of headphones that has different performance in lowest octaves. The sub bass range in general has a pretty small impact on overall tonality and does not make it unsuitable for specific types of music, especially with the sort of roll off you see with HD 600.

>>60673439
The "literally no bass" troll literally interpreted sennheiser's logo as the HD600 FR.

>>60673439
On real ears*

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>>60670415
Because HD 600 has sub bass. Roll off doesn't mean no sub bass. It might indicate bass light response but the HD 600 doesn't sound like that either because the midbass is a bit forward. Does it lack sub bass? Yes, clearly, although measurements might lie a bit here due to additional ear pad leakage. Does that it mean you can't hear sub bass? No. Is it something you could fix with an equalizer? Yes.

Can't believe this sort of shit is an argument here. Ported loudspeakers with their sharp cut in bandwidth after the port resonance can actually sound like there is no sub bass at all. It's the type of listening experience where you hear every other note in a dnb bass line. Pic related doesn't happen with headphones.

>>60673734
Why spend 300$ to EQ something when you can get much cheaper but still comfy headphones like K701 or HD 598 and EQ them instead?

>>60670849
What headphones for less than 300€ have sub bass?

What's the best pair of headphones for watching movies that's less than $350

>>60673734
>Pic related doesn't happen with headphones.
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD424.pdf

>>60674073
HD600.

>>60652430
looking to buy a pair of cans around $300 AUD.
I like bassy headphones, but i've only ever owned shit headphones and some very basic senheisers, so the sennheisers sound very bassy compared to the rest, I'm hesitant to say I want bass heavy headphones in case good headphones that are bass heavy are extremely bass heavy, if you know what I mean.

Anyway, 300aud is about my limit can wiggle a little either way

>>60674875
If you're ok with sennheisers, you should probably just grab HD600 with that sort of budget.
These are good. If you're uncertain, just go watch/read a bunch of reviews. They have enough bass (nevermind "literally no bass" haters), particularly when compared to other sennheisers, including those "basic" ones you've probably used.

>>60674912
alrighty ill take a look, i've got sennheiser hd 449s now for reference, just found the model number.

going to be a noticeable improvement?

>>60674929
From anything else than 600 to 600? Yes.

>>60652644
from what i've noticed yes

>>60674978
>>60674912
do you recommend a dac/amp for these headphones?
If yes, do you also consider it required or just preffered?

>>60675383
>required or preferred.
Preferred. The device works no matter where you plug it to. An amp+dac will probably sound better than your computer's builtin sound because they tend to suck, but there's no guarantee. It's nice for peace of mind if anything.
>which amp/dac...
Schiit Fulla 2 (sold direct at schiit.com) is my go-to recommendation. Best value/price of the cheap dac+amps. You'll likely never need any other device.

>>60673734
>>60673439
Any bass centric song will sound like shit due to the garbage FR in the lower octaves and distortion in the bass. HD600 shills simply can't accept that their "perfect" headphones are actually far from perfect.

>>60675531
>literally no bass!!

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>>60675567
>m-muh perfect headphones

>>60673188
Lmao. Almost there, my man.

>>60674645
>Movies
>No bass
>No soundstage

>>60675811
>literally no bass!
>literally no soundstage!

>>60675567
>He can't accept the no-bass
Sad!

>>60675827
>literally.
>no.
>bass.

Are my HD 681 bass-light compared to HD600's? I have the filter mod as well to tame the highs.

>>60676023
Best is to just get the HD600 and try them yourself.
You can't go wrong with HD600.

>>60676023
Less bass than the HD600.

I'm using SR80i headphones with my ASUS monitor over HDMI. Monitor has SonicMaster Technology. My laptop headphone jack has lots of noise that's why I'm not using it.

I was thinking about getting some Logitech Z623 Speakers, will the audio to my headphones just pass through the speakers or will they do something to my headphones like give more bass?

Is it worth getting an external amp+dac over using my monitor?

>>60676346
>Is it worth getting an external amp+dac over using my monitor?
If you have doubts, just get one. It's not like they're that expensive.
In my experience, monitor headphone outputs are shit.

>>60676346
Those speakers probably suck, I'd just save up for Micca PB42X and a Fulla 2 or any cheap dac

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KGK5I38

Bought this $20 DAC/amp for my headphones, just as good as my >$80 Fiio E10 amplifier that had a busted headphone jack.

Really needed some kind of amplifier because built-in audio was way too quiet with my headphones, this is loud enough for ATH M50x.

Works out of the box with Linux.

>>60675824
>Implying that's an argument
Lmao.

>>60675835
I rest my case :)

Do IEMs with coiled cables exist?

>>60675531
>-3dB @ 40Hz compared to 100Hz
That's acceptable bass response for an open dynamic headphone.

The bass distortion isn't audible.

>Budget
Under $100
>Location
'Murica
>Source
Pc
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter
>Sound signature
Preferably V-shaped, but anything that sounds nice is fine

>>60676346
>Logitech Z623 Speakers

JBL LSR305 for the best value per dollar choice, Micca PB42X for the cheapest half-way decent choice.

>>60652430
Could you please stop including /csg/ in the OP? It's turning up in search results.

I currently have an mdr-v6 and an M50.
Hate the M50, love the v6.
Looking to replace them both with something "better".
Source is an o2+odac.
Used to have sennheisers many years ago (forgot which) and hated the sound so I'm a bit turned off by them in general.
Suggestions?

>>60680995
DT250 for Closed
DT880 for Open

>>60680949
We don't want poorfags in our threads, I'm keeping it in the OP.

>>60680610
Wrong.

>>60681382
Prove that it is audible since you made the claim.

>>60681277
That's why you should remove it. /hpg/ is the first result for /csg/, which attracts poorfags.

>>60681212
Thanks. Are there any tangible or noticable advantages/disadvantages for open/closed besides sound leakage and isolation?
I've only ever owned closed headphones.

>>60681398
I'm sorry you're deaf, anon.

>>60681398
I would just ignore his posts because he doesn't understand the relationship between THD and audability.

>>60680867
https://www.reddit.com/r/BudgetAudiophile/comments/39s1m5/australia_anyone_looking_for_micca_mb42xs_you_can/
https://voll.com.au/product/b44/

Looks like they are branded as Voll B44 here in Australia. Any idea what amp/dac I should get? I don't know much about them.

They have a bundle option here
https://voll.com.au/product/voll-b44-bundle/

>>60681415
More natural, airy sound usually. Wider soundstage usually comes with this though some openbacks are the exception (HD 600/650). One of the bigger problems with open dynamics is sub bass extention. They sort of lack it and kinda fall short depending on the headphone like X2's, HD 600, K612, etc.

>>60681477
ahh these are MB42X not PB42X, I'm lost with this shit

>>60681548
>natural
>airy
>soundstage

Buzzwords: The post.

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I've lost weight and my CIEMs don't seem to fit anymore. I guess it's time for a reshell.

>>60680624
M40x.

>>60681477
>>60681567
never mind looks like MB42X / PB42X are basically the same, still don't know what amp/dac to get, something under $80 would be fine right?

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Got these for like $100, there not half bad

>>60681574
>M-muh buzzwords!

>>60681781
They're not the same. MB are passive and will require an amp, PB don't.
Some anon posted a cheap dac with a volume knob earlier, might be all you need.
Fulla 2 has a variable preamp out you could use with powered speakers.

>>60681574
>M50X's have accurate soundstage

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What do /hpg/ think about DENON DA-300USB + Schiit ASGARD 2 combination?
And any thoughts about Schiit production in general? All this talk about high quality not just a meme?

Does anyone here have the Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 and can tell give me a short personal opinion?
I'm thinking about getting them but reviews are mixed. Some say they are great, some say they suck.
What i'm looking for: good, clean, precise and not muddy/bloated bass, decent mid range, clear treble and all of it packaged in a closed, portable headphone. MSR7's should fit that.. kind of, right?
Some more info: I like DT770/880/990 sound signatures, dislike Bose and Beats, Rock Zircons are nice but fragile, Sony MDR-1A is too mudy imho, ATH-M50x.. idk, only listened once to them, Fidelio X2's are nice, but can't remember much since i only listened once to them, liked them though.
If MSR7's aren't quiet what i'm looking for, does anyone know a good alternative for portable, closed, full-size headphones? Budget is 200 Euroshekels.

>>60682154
Comfort can be hit or miss.

>>60682070
Schiit is literally a headfi/reddit meme brand. Avoid.

So I want black 600ohm dt880s. Are these legit?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MSYSFPQ/

>>60682381
yes

>>60682227
>Comfort can be hit or miss.
As long as it's decent i'm fine with it. I won't be weaing them for 4 hours straight. My main concern is sound.
For example, i directly compared my DT990's against a friends MDR-1A's and on some (mostly rock/metal) songs with heavy/constant bass guitar the MDR's turn the music into a mudshitfest.
Sabaton - Attero Dominatus turned into Attention Domyanus muddfest and Rammstein - Zerstören was literally zerstört by the constant mud being pumped into my ears.
From what i've read the MSR7's are not muddy at all, they are refined and precise and should be closer to Beyerdynamic bass. I prefer precise, hard hitting quality bass over a sloppy, muddy shitfest.
On the other hand, i've also read that the bass can be a little too little and that the headphones might sound a little thin.
I can live with bright headphones, after all i like DT990's and those chink Boarsemen CX98 or whatever they are called.

You may ask why i chose MDR-1A's as comparison, that's because they were available to compare and also a possible candidate. Also compared to Bose but don't get me started on Bose aka buy other sound equipment.

>>60682381
Yes they are, it's just a special edition. Also great choice.

>>60652430

HD 600s or R70x?

>>60682485
hd600

>>60682500
New thread.

>>60682381
get the chrome dt880

>>60682154
There was some talk of them towards the end of last thread.

>>60682070
>>60682275
>A meme
They're fine, I think the higher priced stuff may not be worth the cost, but the Fulla 2 and Modi/Magni are good values.

>>60682154
Beyer Custom One pro has the DT770 drivers with a detachable cable and leather pads for better isolation.

>>60682971
So Asgard 2 not worth it? Any alternative suggestion with this price tag?

>>60683069
Magni 2 / Objective2

>>60679086
I don't know of any.

>>60682012
>soundstage
>real

>>60683260
>HD 600 Soundstage
>Wide

>>60681849
How is it thus far?

>>60683301
>soundstage
>real

>>60683260
Prove it. You can't, cuccboi.

>>60683352
Prove soundstage exists.

>>60683332
EQ in that soundstage, senpai

>>60683364
I never claimed it existed. Second post in the thread. Now prove it doesn't, cuccboi.

>>60683378
I have no business with you, redditor, the burden of proof is on the faggot to prove that soundstage exists.

>>60683421
But I didn't make any claims, cuccboi so the burden of proof is on you.

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>>60683421
>>60683426
Burden of proof always lies on with the one able to present proof, who made the initial claim is irrelevant. There is no such thing as anti-proof, you simply cannot prove something doesn't exist. At best you can prove there is currently no way for us to measure it or that our current understanding of the universe does not logically allow for it to exist. Neither is a resolution. On the other hand, verification of existence through irrefutable objective reality (the Oxford definition of existence) is possible.

>>60682070
>asgard 2
Waste of electricity for no audible benefit.
Instead, consider Fulla 2, Magni2 or Jotunheim.