/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>60585902
I sold a guy a used pair of HD 600's once. To show off their durability, I yelled "SNAP INTO A SLIMJIM!!!" and bent that shit as hard as my nerdy little noodle arms could. To my surprise, it actually snapped in half. He still bought it for 50% off.

Anime a shit

>>60585902
That silly snapheiser meme.

>Budget
$75

>Location
Mexico.

>Source
Laptop.

>Type of headphone
Full Size.

>Open or closed
Closed.

>Comfort level
Comfy.

>Sound signature
Neutral or bright.

>Past headphones
Literal trash $5 generic earphones.

I'm deciding between Superlux hd660 and hd661. Yes i'm poor, and these would be my first decent headphones. Thanks in advance.

>Budget
~$250
>Location
USA
>Source
Iphone 6s
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Good enough for comfy three hour train rides
>Sound signature
Comfy
>Past headphones
I've used m40x's for desktop use and I've never bothered buying a pair of nonstock iems until now.

>>60586038
I have hd668b and think they'd be perfect for you, bright signature with lots of detail.

I love Kumiko and my HD600

>>60585902
From the last thread:

>Most expensive
Kek. Then I guess I can't convince you

I don't give a shit about money, I assumed you were talking about incredibly expensive headphones. I've owned nearly all the good headphones before the 600/650 interms of price. Are you actually going to say what headphones are better, or just be an absolute faggot like most people with no argument on here tend to do.

>>60585974
Wow, so it literally is the same anti 600 guy who makes nearly every single /hpg/ thread. wtf. How long have you been doing this? Seriously.

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>>60585902

>Budget
$200 USD

>Source
Desktop

>Type of headphone
Full

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Don't care

>Sound signature
Neutral?
Whatever is closer to 'True Sound'

>Past headphones
M40x

>>60586150
>Best headphones anon owns are HD 600s
>Claims they're end games
What the fuck? Seriously? Why do people do this?

About to pull the trigger on Magaosi K3 Pros, I'm not about to do a fuck up am I lads ?

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>order IEM
>consider moistening the tip before insertion
Did you fags trick me into ordering an expensive anal toy? wtf is this shit

>>60586389
>He won't answer my question

Why do people do this?

>>60586648
>>consider moistening the tip before insertion
Nice meme, but nobody has ever done this.

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>>60586648
Welcome to the club.

>>60586388
Sennheiser HD380 Pro.

>>60586655
See
60576065
Now quit shilling HD 600s as literal end game headphones when the most expensive headphones you own are fucking HD 600s.

>>60586389
Do you know someone, or even someone who knows someone, who has full-sized headphones which are actually better than HD600?

>>60586752
>>60576065

>>60586752
lol planar meme.

>>60586779
>He doesn't own planars
kek. Spot the dynamiclet

>>60586815
Electrostatic masterrace.

>>60586388
DT250

>>60586752
Please name ONE fucking headphone that is clearly better than the 600, that doesn't cost three times as much.
I'm still waiting lol

>>60586839
nigga

>>60586882
>Moving the goalpost
>>60586150
>I don't give a shit about money, I assumed you were talking about incredibly expensive headphones
What are you now, a poorfag?

>>60586888
Bass?

>>60586882
For now, even without the price restriction, none has been named.

>>60586907
?
>>60586766
>Inb4 muh planar meme

>>60586894
I have spent a lot of money on this hobby. Why wont you name one fucking headphone? You are an absolute pace of shit on every level. That, or a decent troll.

>>60586934
>I have spent a lot on this hobby
>>60585791
>What? the most expensive headphones I have tried /own are the 600s and 650s
Lmao. You haven't even TRIED anything more expensive than HD 650s. Much less, own.

See
>>60586766
and
>>60583299

>>60586996
Clearly not the same anon.

Idol trash here, just taking a quick look before going to sleep. There's at least 3 distinct anons with HD600 I am aware of, other than myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NV06VXCkkk

Opinions on the Apple Earpods?
Serious question. Obviously compared to the one's around its price range.
I think they're okay.

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>>60587076
Night night, anon.

>>60587118
I'll try and sleep snug, smug.

>>60586996
I haven't tried a more expensive headphone than the 600.

Here is your last chance.. Name one headphone that is clearly better than the 600. It seems as if you're struggling.

>>60587256
Thank you. Now quit shilling.

Here; i'll do it for the last time.
>>60583299
and
>>60576065
Can you click on those for me?

>>60587311
Fucking hell you're an absolute mong.

Name ONE headphone that is better.

>>60587427
Stax SR-404. I fucking pulled that out of my ass.

You have to be autistic if you unironically think HD 600s are end game headphones, especially after >>60587256

>>60586648
you ordered etys? they aren't too bad but the only thing to take into account is how deep they go.

>>60587539

When I said endgame, I mean reasonable endgame. I Have no idea about stax, as I previously mentioned. How much do they fucking cost? I still stand by the fact that the 600's are the best headphone within reason/cost

>>60587652
What was that, anon? Did you forget about your original statement? I'll remind you.
>>60586150
>I don't give a shit about money, I assumed you were talking about incredibly expensive headphones
Fucking faggot

>>60585902
Just got my HD 558 lads. Wonder what they'll sound like after they're burned in. They sound very clear and punchy in the right places.

>>60588369
>after they're burned in
Just wear them for 2 weeks and get used to the sound. Burn in is a reddit myth.

>>60588369
Who told you this "burn in" meme?

>>60588524
$10 on Reddit or Head-Fi.

>>60587652

That's a better clarification of what you mean, and you are welcome to your opinion. Many people will share it, and many may disagree, but no one can say that you are wrong because it is an opinion.

Binky taught me this yesterday.

>>60588467
>>60588524
Yeah I suspected. I knew it was going to a response though.

What's the closed endgame? Something high end fostex?

>>60588746

That or probably Mr. Speakers Ether C

>Budget
$200ish

>Location
Merica

>Source
Phone, laptop, maybe desktop in the future

>Type of headphone
Full size, over ear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Comfy

>Sound signature
Bassy

>Past headphones
Noontec Zoro HD and some cheap IEMs. The Zoros sound breddy gud, but fuck they hurt my ears if I wear them for any amount of time. Can't get them to seal for shit so I lose out on dat bass which kills me.

The M-Audio HDH50s are looking real good. Solid choice?

>>60588832
DT770 pro 80 ohm. Great bass and super comfy.

I've asked for a recommendation multiple times but as a different "samefag" with almost the same specifications in the past few threads to collect the most info.

And with that, I've been recommended all of these:
beyerdynamic DT-770 80 Ohms
beyerdynamic DT-250 250 Ohms
Sennheiser HD 598
Sennheiser HD 380 Pro
Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7
AKG K545BLK

I can purchase them all, but what is the 'Best' for closed neutral setting for Desktop use?

>>60588904
Shit. Should have mentioned I want an in-line mic. I'm dumb. Thanks for the rec though man.

What would the logical upgrade to my AKG K712s be? I've had them for like 4 years now and absolutely love them and would like to get a new pair of headphones in the future.

>>60585902

What's the best way to connect an AMP to a DAC? Laptop->DAC->Amp->Headphones

I get static from current Laptop->Amp->headphones setup, but looking at DACs, I see the small ones only output to 3.5. Could I use the RCA->3.5 cable from the amp and plug into the DAC 3.5 output? Stupid question I know.

Are Bluetooth earbuds a meme? On the fence about getting a decent pair, but most of them have a fucking wire running from ear to ear, so they're not really wireless.

>>60589160

True bluetooth headphones are getting better, but I'd wait for the tech to mature a bit more.

>>60589185
Earbuds*

>>60586085
1more quad driver

>>60589064
for neutral the best out of those is the 380 pro

So I've been a fairly big audiophile for a little while but a friend has gotten me itching for Bluetooth headphones that I can use for portable use. Trying to find one that isn't a meme and it's proving difficult.

>Budget
$200

>Location
America

>Source
Phone

>Type of headphone
Wireless Bluetooth

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Doesn't matter that much, but would prefer comfier.

>Sound signature
V-shaped or Bass Heavy

>Past headphones
Audio Technica ATH-M50, HIFIMAN HE-400I

>>60589292
Also, I have a preference towards over ear headphones, but I'd look into any type if it fit my needs better.

>>60589112
You've more or less reached the point where you'll have to blow a lot of money on something like HD800s to get an appreciable upgrade. There's not really a 'logical upgrade' from K7__s.

>>60589314

More than $200, but I like my Crossfade Wireless 2s.

>>60589281
Is there a way to check "benchmarks" of each headphone like you would with Video Cards?

>>60589386
Errr... Frequency response graphs?

>Budget
$25
>Location
Illinois, USA
>Source
Desktop
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Neutral, I guess.
>Past headphones
Some $20 pair from Walgreens.

>>60589064
380's have boosted bass, MSR7 might be the best of the bunch you've mentioned, but they're slightly bright.
If you want pure neutrality, DT250 is probably the way to go.

>>60586389
I dunno man, I think the HD600 is the best headphone I've heard besides the ER4SR.

I use an equalized HD800 because it's superior for comfort. The HD800's stock sound signature is literal dogshit.

>>60589079
You could just clip a mic on to the DT770 cable, they're the best value closed under $300.
Otherwise, go for CB-1 and get the status flat cable with a mic, or any 3.5 cable with a mic.
They're real comfy stock, neutralish with boosted bass.

>>60589126
The dac goes to the amp, the reverse would make no sense.

I need recommendations for headphones to use with my phone when I'm out and about, nothing fancy.

>Budget
20€

>Location
Europe

>Source
Phone

>Type of headphone
Earphones or in-ear

>Past headphones
Whatever 10€ earphones where available at the store or the ones included with the phone

>>60589064
Best for closed neutral are DT250 and Sony MDR-V6.

DT250 on the warm side of neutral, the Sonys are on the bright side of neutral.

The HD380 is garbage. I'm in a foul mood today. I'd get the DT250 because the velours last long unlike the Sonys, there might be a variation in channel balance among units, I've had two pairs, one is perfect, the other sounds like shit.

>>60589126
What's your amp? A Modi 2 would output RCA to the amp and should clear up static issues.

>>60589640

Beyer A20

>>60589547
Tascam TH-02, get new pads once you're not poor.

>>60589616

I know, but I'm asking does it matter what method matters to connect the dac to the amp? Would 3.5 work? Or would I have to get a DAC that also uses RCA so I can connect the dac and amp via rca?

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>>60589554
>>60589638
>DT250
Thank you anons.

>>60589663
>Spends nearly $400 on amp and doesn't know how to use a DAC
Why?
Just grab a Modi 2 Uber.

i bought audio technica m40x's 2 months ago and they are about to break because of how flimsy the earmuff supports are

the fuck do i do ;(

>>60589677
Thanks.

>>60589696
Get the 80 ohm DT250 you dumb animu faggot.

I had the 250 ohm which I returned because the channel balance was shit, the 80 ohm is perfect that I own.

I know this is by no means a conclusive test but I think the 80 ohm might be the more consistent of the two.

Also you need a tiny screwdriver to set up the headphones.

>>60589720
>Get the 80 ohm DT250 you dumb animu faggot.
Will do.

>>60589602
>>60589079
You could also get a Beyer Custom Studio and throw in a BoomPro mic.
>>60589547
TH02 or Monoprice 8320
>>60589626
Check out what KZ has to offer. Their new ZS5 look like an inprovement over the ZS3's. VE Monk Plus with the Expansion pack imo is some of the best bang for your buck.

>>60589704
Thanks for answering my question


It's $180 for a relatively irrelevant piece of tech. If I can get away with spending $100 or less for a simple one to remove source distortion and static, I'd rather go that route.

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I'm getting an OPPO PM-3. Is an amplifier necessary for it? Thanks lads.

>>60589810
No, it isn't.

Shit gets really loud from my cellphone.

>>60589759
>It's $180 for a relatively irrelevant piece of tech
Irrelevant if you don't mind staticy audio. Kek
Modi 2 is cheaper, just doesn't have as many connectivity options. I dunno if I'd trust anything less.

An e10k can't function as a dac only so it's useless to you.

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Im a slut for details, is the SR-l700 the best option for liquid/transparent sound?

>>60589907
>STAX
>transparent

Nope.

>>60589973
Any other recommendations?

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These arrive next week. What should I expect? Anyone try them yet?

>>60590084

They look like Chi-fi bootlegs of Campfire Audio units. Not sure what to expect, let us know what you think when you get them.

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Hi /g/ I'm looking for a pair of headphones in the $200-$350 ish range with the following characteristics

>very low bass extension
>smooth mids
>detailed highs
>open, overear

I'm planning on purchasing headphones for the near sole purpose of using them for pipe organ music and recordings. I am waiting warmly for your replies.

>>60590254
Your budget?

Anyone on here tried the monster turbines before? Experiences?

>>60590290
Re read the post.

>>60590254
HE400i or HD650.

>>60590254
>$350
>very low bass extension
>open, overear

I'm sorry, you can only pick two.

>Budget
$200 - $300AU flexible

>Location
Australia

>Source
Phone/PC

>Type of headphone
IEM or Full Size

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Comfy

>Sound signature
Neutral-Bright

>Past headphones
Sennheiser Momentum In Ears

>>60590966
Wireless would be extremely preferred

>>60590966
MDR1R-BT/MSR7-BT

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>>60589554
>>60589638
Turns out that the DT250 is not available in Canada.

How are the DT-770s?
Is there a giant difference between the 80 and 250ohms?

>>60589907
"Liquid" is a pretty ambiguous term. But yes, the lambdas will be quite transparent.

>>60587652
Holy shit this HD600 poorfag
If you seriously think spending $1000+ on headphones is unreasonable you are either a NEET or third worlder. HD600 is endgame if you're a teenager saving up his allowance and birthday money.

Reminder that STAX is garbage that will fail in months and is unrepairable unless you go to Japan and have it fixed in person.
Nips can not into headphones

>>60589759
There are some sub $100 standalone DACs from China you could buy

Redpill me on the DT880s

>>60591300
harsh treble

>>60591091
DT770 is V-shaped. Not very neutral, they're still very good headphones.
>>60591144
No Lambda is close to transparent.
>>60591154
There isn't really anything better even into the +$1000 territory. You've been conditioned to think that more expensive headphones are better by the marketers but it really isn't, what matters is the individual headphone's sound quality. Even so, I see nothing wrong with someone buying some $30 chink shit and using EQ to make it sound to their tastes or more neutral.
>>60591300
A bit bright and sibilant, otherwise solid choice.

>>60586671
I do with canalphones.

>>60591724
Status OB1 is literally better than the HD600 in THD and only requires a simple +5db bump from 1000hz to 8000hz to make the sound signature almost exactly the same. The HD600 is literally a meme.

>>60589386
There are measurements of the frequency response but it isn't as clear cut as something like video card benchmarks where you easily see which card performs the best. What is good ultimately depends on your preferences.

>>60590084
Something bad like their influence. Uncomfortable, bulky housings with a boring bassy sound signature.

>>60591724
>A bit bright and sibilant, otherwise solid choice.
I've been comparing this with the 770s

And I've read that the 770 suffers from shitty mids, should I just grab the 880s for my vocal preference or do you have any other recommendations?

These discussions about which headphone is better than the other are retarded. You are arguing with your own preferences. Who gives a shit if you like HD 600? Who gives a shit if you don't?

Please stop shilling your favorite pair of anything into every single rec just because you liked it.

Please stop being idiots who judge headphones based on their technology or price point.

>>60591769
Talking about THD without any metric to assess its audibility is pointless. With the information we get now the OB1 might have more audible distortion or it might not. We don't know.

>>60591874
>Talking about THD without any metric to assess its audibility is pointless. With the information we get now the OB1 might have more audible distortion or it might not. We don't know.

Prove it.

>>60589907
keep them away from dust and high humidity

For Australia, is this a good price for HD600? https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/collections/headphones/products/sennheiser-hd600-audiophile-reference-hifi-stereo-headphones

>>60592561
would a hd600 and fiio e10k be a fine headphone/amp combo for beginner?

Is it safe for headphones to be used loud?
I'm not talking about ear safety, but about the driver safety itself, to not fuck it up, like in old cars where all the speakers are torn to shit
I usually use my HD558 at 20 or 30 on the PC settings, while the youtube, players, etc are at 100, which I know isn't harmful in any way, it just sounds loud enough for me to hear everything I want but won't make me deaf to outside world (I like being aware of my surroundings, can't understand the people who have now idea what's happening around them when they have their closed back headphones turned to max)
But so I was wondering, if I do turn my headphones to 100 on PC and 100 on everything else too, would it be damaging to the headphones themselves ?

How do i get sure that i don't go above 80db ?

>>60585902
Budget
100 euro

>Source
Desktop

>Type of headphone
Full

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Don't care

>Sound signature
Whatever is neutral

>Past headphones
HyperX Cloud 2

Side note: Would prefer if they headphones had a pretty good built in mic

>>60590966
Baseus El-01 off aliexpress.

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>>60592561
>>60592600
Looks like an excellent price to me. I don't recommend buying an E10K for it. If you can't afford a decent amp+dac right now, get just the HD600 and start saving up.

>>60592600
Either get a good amp+dac combo (Schiit Modi+Magni or Fulla 2) or get just the headphones for now. e10k is too shit.

>>60592561
Crazy good price.

>>60592600
No. As other anon suggested, either buy hd600 and decent dac/amp or don't buy it at all and get one later. You want to spend at least $100 on dac/amp, otherwise there is very little point. Only times you want cheaper dac/amp is when the only reason for getting one is static noise from onboard, and your headphones don't actually require or profit from getting one.
If that is not affordable to you get cheaper headphones, such as AKG k612/702/712/7xx depending on your sound signature preferences.
Actually there is very little difference between good $100 headphones and hd600.
Anyway if you want budget hd600 get k612 pro, very different sound signature (balanced, medium sound stage). hd600 is objectively better though so if you think you will end up craving more then get it straight away.

"buy the hd600"

>>60592943
Buy the HD650.

>>60590084
Apparently they're pretty decent for the money in terms of sound. Build is eh and it uses the stock garbage stock KZ cable.

Can anyone explain to a dumb what's the point of AMP/DAC if the PC can provide enough power for headphones ?

>>60593050
It's only a problem if your headset spikes on certain frequencies.

>>60593050
>if the PC can provide enough power for headphones
Well you have already answered your question. The point is that there are headphones that cannot be properly powered from PC onboard audio.

>>60592913
>>60592907
>>60592897
>>60592864
Thanks.

Thinking of getting. https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/products/shure-se215-sound-isolating-earphones?variant=16063947523
https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/products/sennheiser-hd600-audiophile-reference-hifi-stereo-headphones?variant=16064102531

>>60593072
I just thought there are some other benefits, as I've seen them at few of my friends very long time ago, but they sure as hell didn't have any good headphones or speakers

I just got my shanling m1 and listening to it with my se535. Wtf it's noisy as fuck i think it's worse than my phone. Any other users having this problem? Is my shit defective?

>>60586671
B a c t e r I a

>>60593111
>chinkling

>>60586882
HD 800?
HD 650?

>>60587652
If you play runescape and you say endgame is level 60 then you're being a faggot. And if you tell people level 99 isn't the fucking endgame because it's too hard to get there or its not reasonable then you're being a fucking noob faggot.

So if you say hd600 is the endgame because anything better has an unreasonable price then you're just a fucker who can't afford anything better. The definition of endgame is not the best price to quality ratio, it's the maximum quality disregarding the price. So stop redefining shit to feel like you're fucking accomplished you piece of shit.

>>60593088
Well, actually there are but that's more like side benefits.
What you need most is amp that can power headphones properly, everything else is optional. Some dac/amps have added benefit of swapable operational amps and there are also tube amps. Those things are very often used to change sound signature of output.
For instance in theory if you have dark headphones you can bring it to be more neutral by pairing it with bright source. But this is all bonus staff, almost in audiophool territory. Most of the time it doesn't matter and majority of people on /g/ just want source that color sound in any way, and lets headphones sound like engineers wanted them to. Also if needed most of the time you can do any balancing with good equalizer, such as equalizer apo with peace gui.

>>60588369
Burning in is just you getting more used to the sound and accepting that you spent a lot of money on something that will not improve your quality of life by a considerable amount.

I need to buy headphones for my brother
>Budget
20-25 yuros
>Location
Italia
>Source
Smartphone
>Type of headphone
In-ear
>Sound signature
I guess something fun to listen to
>Past headphones
literal dogshit, come with phone earbuds

>>60589694
A quality dac would have output by rca

>>60589323
Honestly I tried on some HD 800 and they were not that impressive. The highs were fking annoying. Maybe it's the source at the store, idk.

>>60593183
JVC HA-FR202(or FX102, but the buttons/mic on-line is really a must I would say, after having used in ears with my phone and they don't have in-line)
Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision (doesn't have controls) or some other CX would be good too
QuadBeat 3, don't know about newer, but these came with LG G4, comfortable, cheap, good

>>60593220
>>60593183
Also take a look at Takstar HI1200, wanted to buy them, but at the time they were pretty much unheard of(not the company, the model) and I found no reviews, maybe it's changed

>>60593181
>and accepting that you spent a lot of money on something that will not improve your quality of life by a considerable amount.
Memes aside. Having quality headphones improved my quality of life. $60 is not a lot of money.
On the other hand, HD 558 are not good headphones, but that's a different story. And I guess for someone coming from gayman headsets and stock earbuds those sound amazing so still good investment.
You would have a point if anon actually spent a lot of money on those headphones, but this is not the case here.
I agree about burn in being a superstition though.

The relentless sennshilling has made me feel like I need to buy HD600s to replace my K7XXs

what headphones should i buy if i don't listen to music anymore

>>60593220
>>60593236
Thanks for the input! Went with the Quadbeat

>>60593200
>Maybe it's the source at the store, idk.
HD 800 don't have an impedance swing in the treble.

>>60593130
HD 800 maybe. It also costs over a fucking grand. The 650 is literally worse, but close.

>>60593295
Hi friend. Good decision. AKG headphones are shit and have ear raping treble.
Don't listen to snap and mud trolls and join elite group of HD600 users today.

>>60592768
Status CB-1 with a boom pro is better than any gamer headset

>>60593638
>HD800
Better or worse? Very subjective.

But they are definitely way less neutral.

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>>60585902
can anybody recommend any affordable wireless closed back over ear headphones for commuting.

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Anyone got the manual for the Bottlehead Speedball kit?

Thinking about DIY'ing a Crack for my dt880 600 meme edition.

>>60593161
You got any 99's anon? That's a pretty big goal for me, to get a 99.

>>60594496
It would be nice if anon listed his "99".
Spoiler: It actually isn't better than HD600.

desperately need cash

tell me im idiot to not sell my HD800's especially when i never use them

>>60588832
K545 if you want the inline mic my man

>>60591724
Prove to me you've owned higher-end headphones and i'll believe it.

>>60594496
>>60594748
>I haven't owned anything higher than a 60
>I don't know what 99s are like thus my 60s are still the king
Not anon btw, you massive faggot

>Budget
$50ish USD could go up to $100 i guess
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone, laptop
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Past headphones
Sennheiser hd202

>>60595641
CB-1, XPT100, HM5

>Budget
110$

>Location
Bulgaria, Europe

>Source
macbook pro, I might buy a portable DAC in the future

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
closed

>Comfort level
They should be comfy as I'm planning to use them for 2-4 hrs during work. Ear sweatiness is my main concern desu

>Sound signature
neutral (even bass and treble)

Sound quality (clear and detailed sound) is really what I'm looking for. I prefer over ear.

>>60595753
Thanks m8

>>60595753
>>60595878
Status CB-1 is also called the NC27 on Amazon.de. You probably won't need a dac unless you hear audible static, noise or distortion from your source.

>>60593814
Your tripfag should have snap at the beginning just for the keks.

Anyway, HD600 is the world's best headphones. Stay mad.

>buy SHP9500s without looking into it
>just know its super comfy
>they really are super comfy
>music leaks through
Debating if I should return it or not. Anyone know of headphones around ~$50-60 that are comfy as fuck like these, but dont have sound seaping through its speakers?

600 or 650, which is the better snapcan?

I personally like the HD600 more because I don't like to justify my shitty, muddy tastes with an "audiophile" brand because /g/ won't like it if I buy beats

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Anyone have experience with the AiAiAi TMA-2? Ignoring the benefits of what it brings with being modular; are they actually good headphones, or are you just paying for the modular benefit?

>>60597061
There aren't any other headphones as comfy in its price range. Also, you should start looking at closed headphones instead of open.

>>60597080
You're paying for modularity. None of the modules are that good and that shit has QC issues.

>>60597038
At least state a price range you mongoloid. Prove to me you have owned headphones for expensive than your Snapheisers.

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>>60597157
Shame. These Beyerdynamic 880 chromes looking much better then.

Have you guys tried Beats before? Im just curious how they compare to headphones in its price range, or even some that way below it.

>>60585902
>Budget
100 - 150

>Location
Europe

>Source
MixAmp with PC, PS4 and Xbox, also Fiio X3

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
If opens have better sound quality, then that's what i want

>Comfort level
Will use for more than 6 hours so, yes they need to be comfortable

>Sound signature
Not sure, i like a punchy bass and crisp, crunchy treble

Thanks

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>>60597209
My brother won some beats wireless some years ago. Absolute and utter garbage. A muddy shitfest.

Now kindly fuck off.

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Do I "need" an amp?
Otherwise convince me not to pull the trigger on this.

>>60593876
>Better or worse? Very subjective.
Well, yeah. That's my point, a top tier headphone that costs over a grand isn't even clearly better than the 600. That's how good the 600 is.

>>60597274
With 250 ohm version yes, with 16/32 ohm no.

>>60597294
Frequency response is subjective, you autist. That's what he's trying to say.

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>Budget
$100
>Location
America
>Source
Desktop
>Type of headphone
Full headset
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
um, neutral?
>Past headphones
Logitech G-430's, they're alright but I want to get more out of muh music

>>60597306
Damn.

>>60597165
Showing ownership doesn't prove anything. Based on objective metrics, the HD600 is the best full-sized headphone that money can buy.

>Budget
$130 or less

>Location
USA

>Source
Anything from DAC to phone.

>Type of headphone
Full size pls

>Open or closed
Closed, but open to open.

>Comfort level
Comfy and roomy. I have a large head.

>Sound signature
Neutral, warm - I really only care that they don't sound like ass, and that all frequencies are represented. May use them for audio engineering.

>Past headphones
Senn HD 449, which I love, but I'm an oaf and I've broken what keeps the right earpiece attached to the frame. They still work, but I don't feel comfortable taking them places. I'd get another, but I'm looking to try an different set.

Detachable cord would be a nice bonis.

thanks

>>60597413
What genres of music do you listen to?

Any feedback on the HD579?

>>60597540
I heard it's basically hd 558 even though hd 559 also exists.

>budget
$75>
>location
US
>comfy
Maximum comfy
Closed

>>60597445
>Money can buy
>Evidence free shilling
What the fuck? Based off of what? Kek.

>>60597413
Sennheiser HD 449

>>60597352
>Frequency response is subjective, you autist. That's what he's trying to say.

Well that's already implied at this stage, you fucking mong.

>>60597655
>My headphones are neutral
>His aren't
Therefore, his headphones are barely better, if at all.
RMA yourself, you fucking clown.

I need a headphone, mic combo for gaymen.

>Budget
250EUR (hard limit) including mic and (if necessary) external sound card
>Location
Germany
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
maximum comfy
>Sound signature
neutral

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Reminder that neutrality depends on your preferred listening volume. FR doesn't mean shit unless you know what volume you're listening at.

>>60597772
I never mentioned any headphone being neutral, retard.

>>60597972
brb buying beats for dat bass

>>60597972
You need to listen at average 85dBSPL like the engineer aka pretty loud

>>60597413
>>60597468
>>60597590
Status CB-1 or HM5/XPT100 for neutral with slightly boosted bass.
DT770 for v shape and max comfort.

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>>60592290
This article basically sums up what we know and understand about distortion audibility:

http://www.audioholics.com/loudspeaker-design/audibility-of-distortion-at-bass/total-harmonic-distortion-thd

The plots you see measured on IF sum up all harmonics into one value at a certain frequency. If you read the article you should understand why is summing the harmonics poor from perception point of view. Audibility is complex to gauge even with masking thresholds known against a sine tone and with the full distortion spectra at that frequency visible.

>>60598689
So basically all measurements out there are useless. Nice. I guess we have to go by subjective experiences now.

>>60597445
There isn't an objective metric to tell something like that and there will never be as both value and preference are subjective.

>>60597274
We don't know. You'd need to tell how much voltage your gear provides and how loud you want the headphones to be. 250 Ohm version is less sensitive than those others so the likelihood that you need more amplification(=volume) is higher.

>>60597209
Yes. They are all over the place. Specify a model.

>>60598049
A lot of them aren't that bassy. None adhere to the equal loudness contour.

>>60598775
That's not what it says.

>>60598828
It basically says that THD plots are useless except in cases like Shure. FR plots are also useless because they're reliant on volume.

So I brought the HD650.
>you should have brought the HD600 instead
I wanted well behaved drivers with lowish distortion (high volume headroom) and a treble smooth enough to EQ the headphones easily. Both fit the bill but I find the paint job on the HD600 puke inducing and they cost nearly the same in my country.

On your desk, the HD650 looks somewhat plasticky and brittle. Most lower tier AKGs look much more robust. Quite disappointing desu. Once on your head they don’t clamp as hard as some are saying here. After a few minutes you won’t even notice they’re on your head unless you’re a pussy.

Without EQ, they sound decent for unEQed headphones, but that's all. Better than most but not great either. I’m coming from speakers EQed to the Harman house curve so I’m usually unimpressed by most unEQed stuff now. Two things are problematic: low bass is inexistent, and mid-highs are too forward thanks to the bullshit diffuse field response. The "veil" is nowhere to be heard though. The "mud" qualifier is highly exaggerated but I understand why some might prefer the HD600.

EQing wasn’t that simple. I measured them and got results very similar to most amateur measurements. I then EQed them to the Harman headphones house curve, with mixed results. Then listening to sine tones, I found that the spike around 5KHz sounded worse than measurements would make it seem, but the 3.5-4KHz range was in fact recessed and didn’t need trimming down. Or maybe my ears are fucked up. Anyway, factoring those findings into EQ settings, results are excellent. Balance is very natural and speaker-like, and they don’t crumble at all at higher volumes. Also soundstage is vast and precise.

tldr: great for my needs, would buy again. But if you're rich and don't want to/can't EQ, you might want to consider something from Audeze or Focal instead.

>>60590254
There is HD600/650 but their bass extension won't go low. There is also Audioquest night hawk/owl with smooth, smooth mids and excellent sub bass but rolled off highs. You can get them for 350$ on amazon, maybe try them out, boost highs and if you don't like it use Amazon's return policy.

>>60598988
You sound like an idiot. Show us your EQ. I want to have a laugh.

>>60597996
>>60597996
>Better or worse? Very subjective.
>Well, yeah. That's my point, a top tier headphone that costs over a grand isn't even clearly better than the 600. That's how good the 600 is.
Then what are you implying you fucking retard?

>>60585902
>Budget
$75-100
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer, so USB
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy and for large ears
>Sound signature
Bassy or Neutral
>Past headphones
https://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Beach-Force-Amplified-Gaming-Headset/dp/B00KSVXSZU?th=1

Also needs a mic that isn't garbage.

>>60598905
THD is still nice to have with harmonics laid out individually. You can't instantly make any claims on audibility but it can help with weeding out truly poor performers. We need to know the loudness level here as the amount of distortion heavily depends on it. It really just comes down to understanding what the measurements do and can tell.

FR is far more from useless. The equal loudness contour does not factor in in the measurements. It's inherent to everything we hear. We don't need to mind it or equalize to it. Our brains do that filtering for us automatically. The Fletcher-Munson curves are measured with sine tones. They would take a different shape if they were to be collected from noise for example.

It's true that large loudness differences change the tonality. Turn down the volume and you'll notice how the bass gradually disappears. Sound goes from full and extended to mid-centric and bright. Music is usually within 80-100 dB where bass isn't challenging to hear.

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>>60598988
>mid-highs are too forward thanks to the bullshit diffuse field response
HD 650 lacks the gain required for DF but it matches really well to Harman. The ear resonance compensation is very important. Maybe you are more sensitive to that range more than most are.

>>60599268
>measurements do and can tell.
Which is not a lot. Barely anyone measures harmonics separately and you can't directly compare a measurement from one person to another because their measuring rigs may be inherently different. Basically, THD is "if it doesn't look like shure, it's probably fine". So not very useful.

>We don't need to mind it or equalize to it. Our brains do that filtering for us automatically.
>It's true that large loudness differences change the tonality.
>Music is usually within 80-100 dB where bass isn't challenging to hear.
So again, tonality and FR perception is altered by listening volume. If someone listens at exclusively 65db, their perception is going to be quite different from someone who listens exclusively at 85db. So FR isn't much use either, except for determining general tonality and highlighting large flaws.

HD558 $75 at Best Buy should I jump on these?

>Budget
$50-70
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible
>Sound signature
Warm and Bassy.

Amp recommendation for HD 800 less than $500?

>>60600326
>>60598218
>doesn't read the thread

>>60600459
I saw that, but they're a little over my budget.

>>60600079
Laid back headphones? Easily.

So I'm looking at HD558 since they're like $60 on amazon.
Anything similar except Closed?
Also, you guys seem to bash Sennheiser a lot. Is it a meme like the Thinkpad?

>>60600719
HD 600 shills recommending them to everyone no matter their sound or headphone preference.

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r8 my latest cop

>>60600719
Thinkpads are unironically good though. HD600s are just okay.

>Budget
$300

>Location
US

>Source
Keyboard, desktop

>Type
Full sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Irrelevant

>Sound signature
Prefer neutral/warm, anything is fine

>Past headphones
Fell for the ATH-50x meme cause it was on clearance for 60 bucks. Decent but I'd like to use something more premium.

>>60600719
>60 on amazon.
Used ones. Also they are shit anyway.

So I can get these Sennheiser momentum Wireless cans for half the price. I don't actually need new headphones but the price seems like a steal. Are they worth it? I currently own HD595's, ATH M50X and some Sony EX650 in ears. Anyone have a clue how they compare to those?

>>60600829
2.81/10

>>60597061
Mod them.

>>60600516
Worth saving up 10 bucks more for the CB-1. Somic mm185 is the same thing for cheaper but without a detachable cable.

>>60601134
My sides. Did you actually really follow retarded ideas of this clueless shill Zeos?
I'm actually somewhat impressed.

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Help me /g/ you're my only hope!

>Budget
$50 US life points

>Location
Why do you need this info? US

>Source
Several, mostly smartphone & other portable electronics

>Type of headphone
earbuds

>Open or closed
wat

>Comfort level
This is my sticking point, I have oddly shaped ears, many earbuds just hurt too much to tolerate

>Sound signature
Balanced or V

>Past headphones
The only earbuds that I can stand are ErgoFits
I just want something that doesn't sound awful any longer

I mainly use hs5, but have SHP's when I need to be quiet. They're probably the best headphones I've owned, sound is pretty perfect to me after eqing in some bass.
Been thinking about upgrading to HD600's while they're cheaper.
Would I notice a drastic difference?

>>60601342
What you want are iem's.
Carbo tenore fit your requirements, get some comply foam tips if they're not comfy enough for you.

>>60601370

So are all sub $100 earbuds Chinese these days?

>burn in

>>60601420
What isn't Chinese these days? They sound great for the price.

>>60601501

Not arguing just confirming

>Budget
$100

>Location
Canada

>Source
Laptop, iPod, Desktop

>Type of headphone
Full Size.

>Open or closed
Closed.

>Comfort level
Comfy.

>Sound signature
Neutral

>Past headphones
apple earbuds. $25 Chinese 'gaming" headphones

>>60600719
>Also, you guys seem to bash Sennheiser a lot. Is it a meme like the Thinkpad?
They make the best headphones, beyercucks and akgcucks are angry.

has anyone of you guys tried the custom cans mass loading mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=god9h6sR3GI

is it worth it or just snake oil

Are these overkill for a beginner? One for home and the other for outside.
https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/products/shure-se215-sound-isolating-earphones?variant=16063947523
https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/products/sennheiser-hd600-audiophile-reference-hifi-stereo-headphones?variant=16064102531

Why does no one recommend modded Superlux HD 668B. It costs like 50$ with the mod and beats most 150$ -
200$ headphones easily?

>>60601657
CB-1/XPT100/HM5, all neutral with slightly boosted bass
>>60602048
Can you explain what 'the mod' is?

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>>60602020
Do people unironically pay more then 20$ for earbuds? My brother had SE112 and I told him the cable will fuck up in a month.
MFW they lasted 2 weeks and it was not even the cable that fucked up.

>>60602134
Change the horrible stock pleather pads with velour ones and put one of those treble dampening circle thingies between the driver and the pads or some toilet paper.

>>60601910
it will change the sound, for the better? i'm inclined to say no

Following up on the HD600 no bass nonsense, as a simple experiment, I tried to eq the bass up a little (just fb2k's eq, raise bass then auto-level).

Nigger bass. And the rest of the spectrum doesn't seem to suffer for it.

10/10. HD600 masterrace.

Will play with it for a little more, then back to normal. Flat is justice.

>>60602247
You get bass quantity, but not quality. Have you listened to a real planar before? Even the HE400i will do, but the LCD-2 or HE560 are much better.

>>60602257
LCD-2 is on the shopping list. I'll get one of these eventually, just to fuck around. I'm curious about planars, but I sadly know nobody who owns any as to to loan them to me.

I'm not a bass head, but the HD600 is a huge improvement in bass quality over my HD598 and HD380 Pro.

>>60602247
If you have the headroom you can add retard levels of bass to the HD600 and most open headphones.
>>60602257
Fuck off to head-fi.

>>60602297
You loose so much sound stage compared to HD 598. Also I find HD 598 to be much better with EQ than HD 600 with EQ.

>>60602297
>HD598 and HD380 Pro.
HD600 is better than these in almost every way, no wonder why. I've heard a couple of planars and the bass is just different, nicer in my opinion.

>>60602315
You first, retard.

>>60602186
>Change the horrible stock pleather pads with velours
Check.
>put one of those treble dampening circle thing between the driver
Check though there wasn't much of a difference with and without them in so I took them out. What I did do was take the thin felt cover behind the driver (the side with the holes) and that made a bit of a difference in soundstage which I kept. The treble didnt bother me to begin with. EQ in more bass below 50Hz and down whats bloated above 50Hz and they,re pretty good.

>>60602321
I own both and the only thing HD 600 has over HD 598 is slightly better lows and less sound leak.

>>60602316
>You loose so much sound stage compared to HD 598
When I got my HD598, it was my first open set, and I liked the soundstage gimmick.
I've been on HD600 for a while now and I don't miss the soundstage at all. It doesn't have the somewhat annoying "right on your head" feel the HD380 and every closed I tried do seem to have to some extend. It feels just right.

>>60602337
If you haven't used the HD598 for a while, try them back.
I did briefly back and forth the first couple days or so and they didn't feel so different. But now, after months, the HD598 somehow do sound so shit.

>>60602321
Fuck off you planar bass meme spouting idiot.

Planar bass isn't real. It's just frequency response at play.

>>60602374
Prove your claim.

>>60602370
Jaw dropped @ the bass line @ idolm@ster - next life @ slightly bass-bumped eq HD600.

>>60602370
DESU it really depends on what you are listening to. I'd take my HD 598 for classical music and gaming over my HD 600 any day. However if I listen to something more bass intensive like metal I prefer going with my HD 600. Also the lack of strong bass on HD 598 makes them really nice for long listening sessions since lows tire my ears really fast, but that's just me.

>>60602497
>for classical
I understand the gaming, but why classical?

>>60602497
I prefer my HD600 for everything at this point. HD598 does imho make a meal of classical, metal, idolm@ster/lovelive/otheridoltrash's female voices, and anime and video game OSTs.
As this is what I listen to most of the time, I'm not using HD598 much anymore, except for nostalgia reasons.

rec receiver for <750?
wanna plug my headphones n speakers in

>>60602497
Just try something like METHOD_METAFALICA or EXEC_OVER_METHOD_SUBLIMATION (particularly part 3) on HD600 vs HD598.
I used to think HD598 were good, but when compared to HD600 they just throw some odd grain thing all over the midrange and add some coloring in the overall which seem to just hide the detail, make everything sound the same, and I have a hard time tolerating anymore.
The imaging on the HD600 just outclasses the HD598.

>>60602523
Just EQ the HD598 you faggot.

Literally everything everyone describes about sound quality in this thread goes back to frequency response.

>>60602584
I've played with EQ on the HD598 before. This is why I'm surprised HD600 seems to have no problem whatsoever with EQ. The HD598 is fucking mud if you try to stretch it with EQ.

>>60602517
They simply sound better to me. Must be that super tight and 0 treble bass which is perfect for classical instriments.

>>60602611
upping the lows a bit till 128 hz and fixing that bump at 8k actually changes a lot for HD 598

>>60602612
I find the neutrality of the HD600 to fit classical much better than the HD598. I'm enjoying my old favourites so much more now.
This is particularly true whenever strings are involved. The strings on the HD600 are simply above anything I've heard before, save live performances. It's as if I can touch the strings themselves and feel their texture directly.

>>60602584
Care to back up that bold claim? Or the one I asked you to earlier?

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I thought my dt770s were busted like four years ago but they work just fine so now I added them to my setup :^)

>>60602675
Similar to female voices, and how it's as if I can touch the idols' silky skin. Aaaahh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgPvuZCEMhg
There's no un-hearing the HD600. I'm fucked for life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRHvd7sVEVU

>>60602754
Now if only women made good music.

>>60602783
Yet there's some awesome female composers!
Such as... huh... I'm drawing a blank here.

>>60602803
But their voices can be lovely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9zwdK2yopA

>>60602821
omfg @ ~4:00
https://youtu.be/oosDgjlM_rQ?t=240
umi, rin, eli voices are the real deal.

>>60601871
>Best headphones
Name a price range and kill yourself, faggot.

>>60602727
He can't, yet he'll keep shilling his precious HD 600s.

>>60586882
he-560

>>60602803
>there's some awesome female composers!

Huh. I've never heard of a single female composer in my entire life. It never really occurred to me.

>>60602993
Oh. that's a no-no!
HD600 belongs to everyone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlNOMWQPG28

>>60602803
Maria Theresia von Paradis

Mozart agreed, don't bother him about it

if I was to get Koss PortaPro, which model should I get? There's like 6000 different ones; 2.0, 3.0, D-master, Classic, Premium Original, Red Hot, Ice cool, KTC, Pro Premium, iPorta pro..

I can't find proper articles comparing them..

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what would be a worth upgrade from HD595? power wont be a limiting factor.
Open.
Budget 400-800€

>>60603626
There's only 3 models to consider: The standard $40 Blue/Black and the 2 Special Edition colors (Beige, Gold/Black) that have inline controls. There's other colors you can get if you're willing to import if you want variety.

>>60603682
Sound signature? Headphone usage?

>>60603682
if you like Sennheisers, get HD600 or HD650's with proper amp+dac. They are worth it and will last for years and years.

>>60603699
Is there any difference between them? Marketing blurb is saying the KTC model is most upgraded or some shit.

>>60603699
oh yeah, also I can get other colors like the red, black, white from where I live. I just don't get what the difference is between 2.0 and 3.0 and all the other fucking things. Few of them are 15hz-25khz and others 20hz-25khz, but somehow the 3.0 are from 20hz.. And the KTC are 15hz, just like classic and 2.0..

>>60603716
The KTC and Special Editions (Beige, Black/Gold) are the same other than colors. The other models are just different colors like Red Hot, Ice Cool, Darth, etc.

>>60602611
You're shit at EQing then.
>>60602727
Feel free to prove your statement about 'quality' bass. Fucking buzzwords memer with no knowledge of audio technology. Your kind belongs on head-fi.
>>60603716
>proper amp+dac
Jesus, kill yourself already.

>>60603773
To be honest, he asked you first, twice, anon. You still have yet to prove yourself. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

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>>60603716
I do like sennheisers very much. Are 650 much better than 600? How about hd 700?

>>60603756
I see. I guess the mic is the difference between the few, though the 20hz->15hz thing is somewhat weird.

>>60603773
Go to bed kiddo, you're getting cranky.

>>60603801
Don't care you faggot. He should prove his statement here:
>>60602257

But then again, he can't because he's a buzzword spouting head-fi faggot memer with zero knowledge of audio and solely uses his shitty ears and faulty brain to make judgements.

>>60603841
People say the 600's are more neutral, but I've tried them both and love the 650's. I've been using them for the past 7 years. The 700's aren't really my thing, they sounded.. odd. These have a nice, lightly warm, yet neutral sound. It's a definite upgrade from the 598's.

>>60603846
>I can't prove i'm correct, thus, he should prove he should be the one to prove himself correct
Kill yourself, faggot.

>>60603866
>hurr durr muh buzzwords
Literally you.

>>60603844
All the PortaPros measure the same anyways. Just depends on what colors you want and whether you want a mic or not.

>>60603875
>Buzzword spouting
>Head-fi faggot
>Memer
You're literally using more buzzwords than the entirety of Reddit and Head-Fi. Please shut up if you can't prove yourself correct.

>>60603892
>still can't prove his original claim
Just stop responding already.

>>60603888
good to know! Thanks for the info. I haven't ever owned them myself, and I honestly really dislike how IEM's feel. I've tried them ~12 years ago, and remember them sounding rather nice. I was just wondering if they'd done anything to them since, but guess not. The price is just so fucking good..

>>60603846
I didn't make a claim, I just shared my personal experiences. That should be obvious to any non-autists. Now prove your claim.

>>60603931
You made a claim, you retard.

Just stop responding already, save yourself the embarrassment.

>>60603912
>>60603944
Kek. What was that, anon? You still haven't proved yourself correct? Lmao.

Do you remember this post, anon?
>>60602584
It's an unproven statement.
How about this?
>>60602315
Some anon who can only spew "muh Head-Fi"
And this?
>>60602410
It's some anon asking for proof. Too bad he never got his proof back.

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What would he the best in ear for riding a motorcycle. It has to be low profile cause I don't want the foam of my helmet pushing it into the depths of my brain and as close to total noise cancelation as possible so I don't go deaf from wind noise. Budget is 300 dollaridoos. Thanks

>>60603944
>keeps trying to put words in my mouth
>still can't prove his original claim
Kek.

>>60603963
>300 dolaridoos
Does it really matter for in-ear? I got mi piston something for $25 last year.
Bretty good, no complain.

NEW BREAD
>>60603986
NEW BREAD
>>60603986
NEW BREAD
>>60603986

>>60603958
He is right though but very rude.

>>60604109
Maybe you'll be able to provide the proof he couldn't?

>>60604109
Maybe? But I still have yet to see any proof.

>>60604129
Can't be bothered to.

>>60604132
Nice cop out.

>>60604132
Heh.

I'm looking for some headphones as comfortable as the HD 558s but with more bass. Honestly, all Sennheisers are a little weak on bass for me.

>>60604509
There's a new thread
>>60604003