/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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MOAR LIKE DIS

>>60547509
Why do mods allow these shill/spam threads?
disgusting

How bad is tn screen on x60/x61. Should i go for ips if it costs 50% more?

Considering a T540p. The sticky pastebin link says
>takes a 15.5" 3K IPS display
How difficult is it to swap in a new higher resolution screen?

Is it basically following the screen replacement instructions in the official maintenance manual? Or are there extra complications due to this being an upgrade rather than a straight replacement?

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>>60547579
we just want you to have nice enterprise laptops for cheap

join us

>>60547579
fuckin retard its becuz of these threads i have my favorite laptop.

get a X220 and see why everybody likes thinkpads


just dont get anything other than T420 and X220 otherwise you'll get aids and die from autism

Libreboot is too insane for me, so I'm planning to indpendently RE and reimplement the proprietary T400 BIOS from the ground up.
goals:
-option rom support
-tp_smapi compatibility
-bios boot support
-normal bios config
-microcode loading
-emebbed controller firmware?

is anybody else interested?

>>60547560
made my willy tingle

>>60547579
>>60547779
this
because of /tpg/ I got memed into T420 and I love it.

>>60547608
I mean the board has decent speed so getting the timing right would be annoying. If it dies before the new thread can be made then you can't post a link to the new one and everyone is gonna have to go back to the catalog and search for it which is annoying.

>>60547703
If the T540p you buy has a shitty 768 resolution display, you actually need a new top lid and bezel. The FHD/3K are swap ins between each other (plus cable change but that's for literally any resolution swap).

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What kind of battery life do you folks get with your x230s?

What kind of battery life do you folks get with your t430s?

what kind of battery life do you folks get with your >t530s?

What kind of battery life do you folks get with your w530s?

>>60547945
Thanks for the reply.
I'm looking at a 1080p machine, so if I understand you correctly, I only need a 3K screen & a new video cable as far as parts go.

In the maintenance manual, there's a bunch of scaremongering about running PanelReplacementUtility.exe or the replacement won't work.
What's the deal with that? Does this mean I have to keep Windows on there until after the screen swap, just to run the exe?

I'm about to start to study CS engineering in Uni and I'm getting a thinkpad t420 for cheap(150$). What upgrades from the following would you recommend to a student like me---
1)ssd
2)ram(4gb present at the time of buying)
3)CPU(from i5 2520m to i7/i5 quadcore like i7 2670qm)
Do u think that CPU upgrade is necessary at all.I just want to play dark souls 3.Also I don't have a desktop computer?
4)battery-9 cell

>>60548222
Also is x220 better? Personally i think the customisability of t420 gives it an edge over x220.

>>60548084
dual core T530 here
about 4-5hrs of intense shitposting
about 6-7 episodes of 1080p 10bit chink cartoons
all at 70% brightness

>>60547779
X220 vs t420, which one wins? Does CPU upgradation in t420 gives it an edge over x220, considering a person owning x220 is screwed if his CPU fails while someone owning t420 can just replace it?

>>60548222
>I'm about to start to study CS engineering
>I just want to play dark souls 3
You're hilarious.
Also, how do you think a AAA title from last year will fly on a 6yo iGPU?

Trips gets you an attempt at a serious answer.
If you actually plan on using this to study, SSD & 8GB RAM are relatively cheap & potentially comfy upgrades, but together will cost almost as much as the whole laptop. Just try it out before committing to that.
I doubt the CPU upgrade will be worth your while/shekels.

>>60548084
T430 Quad Code OC faggot here.

3 hours if I'm compiling heavy code non stop.

up to 8 hours with light activity.

>>60548285
forgot to mention, I have a chink 48Whr battery

>>60548285
>>60548366

both better than I expected

>>60548174
That's just to calibrate the screen initially I believe. My 3K panel hasn't come in yet but I'm planning on doing the same upgrade to mine.

>>60548117
retards like you are why I pick up the slack

>>60548403
T530 fag desu, I could probably do better if I turned brightness way down. If you're running Linux make sure to install tlp to get more battery life.

I have 5 minutes to decide wether to buy a T420 for 140€.

4gb
i7 2620m
500gb hdd

what do????????

>>60548360
Thanx for the advice m8! Guess
>>60548439
I'll have to do without DS3

>>60548439
Buy it m8!

Just bought a w530 this month and I feel like it's giving me eyestrain. Is there anything I can do about this?
I've heard it's from PWM/shitty backlighting. Can I replace the panel?

>>60548485
With the 1080p AUO panel? Worx for me m80, just make sure to keep brightness low enough.

>>60548514
1600x900. I figured I'd replace it with a 1080p later.

>>60548467
looks like I just got literally meme'd into buying a thinkpad.
let's see if it's worth it.

>>60548569
You can always sell it, if you don't like it.
Also, order an ssd and a caddy(optional), with an 8gb ram stick for the ultimate experience.

>>60548563
Never seen a 1600x900 panel on T5xx/W5xx, I don't know what backlighting they use or cause eyestrail.
Keeping brightness adequate for your environment should still apply.

Anyone with Coreboot + Windows here that can post their boot up times?

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Thoughts on my temps? I got youtube playing and oldschool runescape. its a x230. Using it with a dock and 2 external screens.

>>60548300
They are pretty much the same laptop only size is different. It's all about preference

>>60549038
This is totally wrong, the CPU is soldered on the X220.

>>60548300
T420 can upgrade as high as a 3940XM if you flash coreboot.

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Why do you live in the past, anon?

Anybody here use an x200? Thinking about grabbing one and using it for mobile shitposting

>>60548300
replacing a cpu is very niche. if you want to upgrade, get T. if you care more about small size, get X. cpu failure is not very common afaik.

Anybody got experience with the X140e? I need a small laptop and I found one for $89. Didn't buy yet but is it any good? Thanks in advance. I'm living in Germany, and all I want is a ThinkPad with an AMD CPU (sorry for my fucking autism) that can handle Arch Linux, programming, chinese cartoons and maybe some light gaming like osu! or emulators.

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>>60549346
4 generations of Quad Core CPU "improvements", and the latest T series quad cores are weaker than an upgraded IvyBridge, and the dimensions are still the same.

I'm not living in the past, Lenovo is just going backwards.

>>60549629
if you want an underpowered plastic consumer laptop, sure

a little bit more would get you a proper X220

>>60547560
i still remember when sammy !pantsu made their own thinkpad ass pic along with that stupid yellow bird

hey guys, this is a purchasing advice request

first off, im currently using a t61 but something seems to be wrong with it (possibly just age as ive had it about 7 years) as it gets very hot quickly, the fan is very loud and programs run very slowly

so im thinking of getting an upgrade

-my budget is around £300
-location is UK (is that specific enough/what that question means?)
-size (does that mean screen?): i think my t61 is 14" and that seems fine
-performance: i just tend to be browsing the internet mostly so id like it to be able to handle potentially many tabs at once including ones playing video

thanks for any help guys

>>60549038
>>60549530
>>60549079
Thanx

>>60549079
How feasible in terms of heat is 3940xm? Is it manageable?

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Okay, I'm a complete noob to buying laptops. I have a budget of around $400 so I'm looking for some advice. The T420, X230 and Thinkpad X 11.6 seem like good deals for the price, or could I get something with a bit more muscle around the same price?

I mostly want something with plenty of space on the hard drive that also can play some decently demanding games like Payday 2.

>>60550346
No it's a shitty idea unless you never overclock.

It's been done though, and I run a 3840QM which is just a step down and I run it just fine at the same heat the XM would generate. There's just no point in spending extra on the XM.

>>60550233
Literally just T420

Or X220 for 12''

why do you retards shill these garbage decade+ old computers

IBM hasn't been good since the 90s

you are shilling for the company that invented Pajeetism.

Bumping >>60547902 because it was posted just as the old thread died

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>>60550426
Thanks, based anon. Here have a pic of my doggo that I recently adopted as a gesture of gratitude

>>60550456
thanks
with the t420, are there many variations (like different cpus you have to choose from etc) or are they all the same?

>>60550465
Sorry Stacy, applel and dell don't usually make good laptops

>>60550519
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T420

these are all OEM options

>>60547634
Worse than the T420 screen, so go for the FlexView if you want a square laptop.

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>newer thinkpad workstations
>i7...U

for what purpose. ree

>>60550504
nice doggo

This may sound like something super stupid;

I'm thinking about replacing the speaker mesh on my t430 with copper cloth, mostly for ""aesthetics""

However, it should be pretty easy to solder a wire to the copper mesh/fabric and run these wires to the wifi, acting as an additional antenna and hopefully extending wifi range a bit.

I've done quite a few homemade antennas before, but I've never bothered to read up on the particulars of antenna design. I'm thinking some secondary copper mesh antennas could cause unwanted interference effects of some sort> Is this the case, or will I see a decent net gain by having 2 additional mesh antennas?

Yes I will probably just try it out anyway and see what happens.

>>60549653
>look a the wattage
>those scores
>this is 5 years of jewtel "progress"

>>60550553
>recing the 420 when the 430 has full coreboot support now

There is literally no reason for going with a dankpad when you can get the 430, unless you are too much of a pussy to manually flash the bios. And if you cant do that then you are a fucking normie and need to fucking leave.

>>60550785
You want the T4xxp variant, anon. It's the continuation of the old quad machines.

>>60550785
Battery life, I'd imagine.

>>60550465
>reddit spacing

>>60551091
There is one reason - price.

But the T420 loses out on USB3 ports (I think the i7 comes with a single port).

Everything else is the same given that you can use IvyBridge with coreboot.

>>60550465
Go buy your alienware and fuck off back to plebbit you no effort shitty bait fag

>>60549653
kaby lake is pretty sexy though, it's not ivybridge

>>60551070
trololo

Okay, this is silly, but I'm right in the middle of disassembling my X120e, and I can't disconnect the internal mic. I even looked it up in the manual and it just says pull it out, but I've been pulling at it for 20 minutes and it won't come out.
I've never taken apart a laptop beyond adding RAM or an drive. Am I doing something completely retarded?

Not sure if it's related, but what are your opinions on ThinkCentre, Optiplex and whatever HP's desktop line was?

>>60551803
Make sure you lift a small plastic piece if there's any, and try pulling harder.

So this might be a rather biased place to ask but... are Thinkpads really that much better than other laptops that have the same hardware?

I will probably end up getting a Thinkpad because they offer nice discounts to my school but I was wondering either way.

What to do with a T60 in 2018-1?

What to do with a fully upgraded T60 in 2018-1?

>>60552084
Play around with meme OS's like FreeBSD or plan9, alongside Windows XP (just to have comfy XP still installed on something) and Debian. Take out to Starbucks to be a hipster.

>>60552039
Trade A E S T H E T I C S for modability, resistance and easier servicing.

>>60552084
Shitposting/Retro emulation machine

Can I replace the screws for the ram/msata slot?
The previous owner fucked up the head of the screws so it's a pain to open and I'm afraid that eventually I won't be able to open it again.

>>60552039
which "other" laptops?

the plastic consumer garbage you see out front in best buy and compared to Lenovo Ideapads? yes, ThinkPads are much better than those

ThinkPads are Lenovo's enterprise/business line of laptops and brand new hold a premium price ($1000-2500+, depending on model, specs, etc.)

other manufacturers also have their own enterprise line of laptops which are also miles ahead of their cheap consumer laptops, such as HP Elitebooks and Dell Latitudes/Precisions

really those are pretty much the same when it comes to quality, it depends what specific features one brand has that the other might not and what kind of good deals you can find

ThinkPads are just a meme carried on from the old days when they were owned by IBM

>>60552182
yes they are a standard screw size

depends on the laptop but most are m2x3

>>60552222
I can seem to get it out though.
It looks like it's locked into place by a metal clip.
It's a t420 btw.

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So the TSA broke my t420 screen. Any advice on where to get a new screen?

>>60552282
Yeah, the lawsuit check.

>>60552282
>>60552287
or insurance money

Just bought a Thinkpad t400 for 120 canuck bucks (around 90 usd) with a 128gb SSD; did I fuck up? Gonna be using it for word processing/youtube/web browsing.

>>60552319
is it a good ssd?

>>60552343
No idea what brand.

Is this adapter compatible with all T530s or just ones of a certain processor?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/90W-AC-Adapter-Charger-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430s-T530-2352-CTO-239242U-i5-3320M-/282078893572?hash=item41ad365604%3Ag%3Ajo8AAOSw1-RUYyw8&_trkparms=pageci%253A0eb3fba8-4005-11e7-b414-74dbd1804259%257Cparentrq%253A375f502915c0a99be97d7c4affffbd83%257Ciid%253A1

>>60552363
you can use any 20v 90w power supply as long as the port is the same size

>>60552382
I'm buying a laptop online and it hasn't come in yet, how do I know it's the same size?

>>60552293
I had to check it, even though I knew this would happen. I had it packed nicely, but they opened and searched my bag, leaving the laptop in the top part of my bag.

No way in hell are the TSA or the airline giving me any money.

>>60552432
all relevant thinkpads use the same port

except for the newer ones use a square port, and some W-series have a little notch thing in theirs because they need the big power supplies

>>60552455
Thanks, so there's no reason to worry about compatibility issues even though the battery names a specific model and processor differebt from my own?

>>60552489
correct the model is irrelevant

What's the consensus on the P50? I know this thread is supposed to be for older used thinkpads but I want to upgrade from my T430 to something with a lot more power.

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What thinkpad is this North Korean child using?

>>60552543
Nobody here has it but apparently they have some firmware problems, use google

>>60552685
>Nobody here has it

That's not true, there was definitely a guy here flaunting it less than a month ago.

>>60552671
Probably Tx30 or Tx50

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W530 - $300

i7-3740QM
8gb ram
nvidia quadro k1000m 2gb
1920x1080
no hard drive

is this a good deal

just tell me yes so I can buy it, already have an X220 but I want something slightly more powerful, so the lack of mobility is not a concern

>>60552671
R500 or W500. No way to tell beyond that, as the chassis are so similar.

>>60552886
Wrong.

>>60552938
>Spend $300 on a new computer when my current computer already does 85% of what I want it to do

Consider suicide, consumerist.

>>60552971
actually the opposite there is things I can't do with the i5-2520m and hd3000 graphics, it's not just 'inefficient' at doing them

>>60552971
If you already have an X220 but have a legitimate need for power beyond what the X220 can do only inefficiently, consider getting a desktop and not another ThinkPad.

>>60552257

what?

check their support page
https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t420_and_t420i_ug_en.pdf#page=145

Which will also tell you exactly what screws you need

>>60553021
>there is things I can't do with the i5-2520m and hd3000 graphics

aka gaymen in which case why the fuck do you think a laptop will be decent at that?

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>>60553416
no ive given up gaymen and got rid of my gaymer rig

but I occasionally render videos, which X220 can do but is slow and thermal throttles

and play some low-power indie games which X220 can do, but it can't stream it which I'd like for my pals and that small community

and only have 1 computer right now, X220, which is kind of scary if it dies I would die

>>60552938
Go for it, but be sure to have some change in hand for at least a cheap 500GB HDD or something

I've been looking around and the X230 seems good for a first thinkpad. Any downsides?

>>60553416
>>60553491
same here, mostly im doing video rendering, editing stuff in photoshop or lightroom.

>>60553776
depends what ur looking for

but it's probably a solid choice yeah

I was thinking about buying a new thinkpad.

It is for business, portability is important but not highest prio.
I think the X270 or T470 would be fine.

Any thoughts or recommendations?

>>60554015
is someone else paying for it or are you paying for it

>>60554058
I am paying for this.
The limit is about 1k (max. 1.2k)

>>60554083
not worth 1k of your money

>>60554508
What's your suggestion then?

>>60554563
used thinkpad

>>60554633
I really hate to buy used electronics.
Are there any reliable places to buy things like this?

>>60554876
Thrift/charity/whatever stores, your local garage sale, ask an enterprise/business if you can buy one off them and have it not collecting dust in the storage room.
The advantage of those scenarios is that 95% of the times you get to test your product before you purchase it.

If you can even consider online shopping, then eBay or a local selling site (for example MercadoLibre in Mexico) will do, just have a bit of common sense and don't expect to get a P71 for just 5 freedombucks.

>>60554876
If you shop around, you can find ones that are "used"; in the sense they've been sitting in a shelf in an office for years without being deployed, then bought in bulk by the resaler.
The one I just bought was like this. Cosmetic wear and tear on the lid, but otherwise untouched.

>>60551597
>kaby lake is pretty sexy
>its not ivybridge
what did he mean by this

>>60548084
T420s with ultrabay battery gets me about 6 hours running Ubuntu 16.04
You should expect more with the other models with bigger batteries especially the x230/x220 with slice.

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time to brick my t430 with a shitty coreboot config.

wish me luck, testing it on a donor board first.

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>>60553416
Sorry I meant that I can't actually remove the screw to replace it. Do you know how?

>>60548990
no one?

>>60556055
it's made to go up to 100C

Hey /tpg/, I bought a used IBM ThinkPad R51 2888WTA for $50 bucks today, it's a little scratched up but it boots and runs perfectly fine. It runs Windows XP Professional but it says the OS isn't verified by Windows.

The problem I'm having is the previous owner didn't wipe his hard drive completely, and due to my fear of there being hidden kiddie porn on it, I'm poised to factory reset it. Ordering a new hard drive is my last resort.

I can't navigate to the factory default restore. I read multiple articles on how to do it and followed the instructions but the option can't be found. I tried BIOS and Systems Management - nothing.

As soon as I bought it I disabled the WiFi antenna in case of hidden scripts or viruses, then took it home.

Any tips? Should I just get a new hard drive and bathe the old one in acid?

>>60556695
As an added note, this is my first thinkpad.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-1-amp-034-320GB-Intel-Core-i5-2-5GHz-4GB-Wv-/182589023389?hash=item2a8327649d:g:lrUAAOSwlMFZJMii

Who wants to take a gamble.
Apparantly the business is hot garbage.

>>60557068
They just copied the item description from another seller.
I wouldn't even bother.

Anyone here have any experience buying non lenovo branded batteries?

>>60557256
I hear generic batteries are usually poor quality and have a short life span.

X1 4th gen or T460s?
Same price, (nearly) the same hardware.

What are the pros and cons for each model? How is the /g/ opinion on the x1 series?

>>60556695
boot a live cd and wipe the drive.

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does it make sense to buy a thinkpad with a locked BIOS at a discount if you plan to flash coreboot on it anyway?

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>x220/x230
corelets shouldn't be allowed in these threads

>>60557630
Thanks m8

>>60555315
turn it over and slam it down on your desk. it should pop the screw through the clip.

>>60557634
yes

>>60555315

Are the threads stripped?

Does the screw just turn with no resistance?

Has anyone tried overclocking their displays?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/psa-you-can-now-overclock-your-laptop-monitor-intel-intel-optimus.802167/

This guide claims that Ivy Bridge "may" work

>t520 with dGPU heatsink, i5-3320m and thermal grizzly kryonaut
>31C at idle

Doesn't this seem a bit high, shouldn't I be able to achieve <30C idle temps?

>>60557634
Yes you could also unlock it.

>>60559032
>>60558499
wew you can get around supervisor locks by merely flashing the bios? I thought that stuff was controlled independent of the bios chip. Or do you need to actually run coreboot permanently, e.g. going back to original bios after a reflash will have the supervisor locked again?

>>60557637
No, elitebooks shouldn't be allowed in these threads.

>>60559165
I've made the same with a T400, but I've always unlocked the BIOS before flashing, so I had a clean backup.
Since coreboot or libreboot does not uttilise the BIOS pss, I think flashing core/libre makes it disabled untill you flash the factory BIOS back for some reason.

>>60559191
Might be some money to be made in buying locked thinkpads and flashing coreboot with a lenovo bios splash image. Most fools would be none the wiser.

>>60559219
Just short circuit the security chip's two legs just after entering BIOS and it won't be able to read the password.

www.ja.axxs.net/eeprom_location.htm (SDA and SCL is what you need)

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>>60559243
The chip usually looks like this, L08, has a litle dent on on side, and has always the sam positioning of the legs.

>>60552282
eBay or Amazon are where I typically get mine.

How do I patch Intel ME on Linux? What the hell am I supposed to do with an exe?

x200 vs x220
wich on should I get

>>60560381
two very different machines

>>60560445
how are they very different?
one uses core2duo other uses 2gen i5 or i7

>>60559655
https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner

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>>60555282
If you "brick" it, you just flash again with a better conf.

>>60560541
yeah exactly, that's two generations, one is 3~ years older

How hot should an x220 get?
Mine can go as high as 90°C when doing something CPU intensive. Is it time to consider reapplying thermal paste?

>>60560901
that won't help much

Can I run android studio on a t420?
How smoothly would that be?

HP tablet convertibles.
More specifically the 2710p, 2730p, 2740p and 2760p.

What do you guys think of them?
How do you compare them against the thinkpads (x60t, x61t, x200t, x201t, x220t, x230t)?

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Any recommenation on wich SSD or msata is the best option on T430? Also, need to upgrade to 16gb of ram. any suggetion??

>>60562063
I have a Transcend M370 mSATA on my x230, 128gb. It's alright, not the fastest out there, but cheap and it saturates the SATA II connection, so who cares about its speed.

>>60562063
https://pcpartpicker.com/

840 EVO mSATA

and most good RAM has lifetime warranties like G.Skill and Kingston, so whatever is cheaper

>>60548404
>retards like you are why I pick up the slack

that is extremely fucking rude and non sequitur, and the thread hadn't even died yet when you made that reply ITT you actual coward

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>seller doesn't accept questions

well ok guess you don't want me to buy your junk

>>60547509
Anyone have a copy of the T430 VGA BIOS?

Coreboot refuses to display output without it and I can't seem to find it properly.

Anyone have an X230 in the UK on 4G? What's the WWAN card to get?

>>60559167
But they are and always were.

>>60562827
You didn't backup vbios before flashing freetardboot?
jokes on you. lmao

>>60563050
GOBI3000
of course it has to be branded by lelnopevovo

>>60562827
Would a T530 bios be fine?

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>>60562207
>>60562332

The only way to keep my HDD is a msata? Or a PCIe would replace the HDD? And what are the difference between msata and PCIe?

>>60563339
You have space for three strage devices.
1 in the mSATA slot
1 in the HDD bay
1 in the Optical bay, with a caddy

Just choose what you want to do. Use an mSATA, be limited to SATA II speeds and keep both the optical drive and HDD, or use two HDDs and an SSD, or whatever.

Are small capacity mSATA ssds reliable? I want to get 16-32GB ssd just for system, but I'm worried that it will be like first SSDs with Sanforce controllers allover again.

>>60563497
You should always leave 40% of free space for wear leveling and trim function to work.
So don't be such a cheap nigger and get at least 120GB SSD.

>>60563505
Y tho? 32GB should be plenty considering even a bloated Linux install would take up to 10-15GB.
I plan to keep my data on a separate 1TB HDD.

>>60563541
>keeping data on hdd
>2017
>in a motherfucking mobile device
kys

>>60563376
Ok, thanks for the info. In a real world experiece, could I feel the difference between sata II and III? i mostly work on CAD and photoshop

>>60563554
>pretending 120GB is enough for a laptop in 2017
or alternatively
>blowing money on high capacity SSDs
kys

>>60563569
No.
You'l just have slightly less sequential read and write speeds (copying a large file from the disk to whatever).
Random reads and writes are still fantastic.

>>60563592
Ok, thanks you anon

>>60563648
The best thing you can do to save battery life is getting an mSATA and completely discarding the HDD and optical drive.

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Man summertime is wonderful

>>60563690
>that PWM frequency

>>60563188

Thanks. Are you using such a setup? If so, what carrier are you on?

>>60563585
>being poor
kek

>>60564204

poverty is not a vice, comrade

>>60547509
Would this https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-2-5-Inch-Internal-ST1000LM048/dp/B01LYNQXCP/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495651555&sr=8-2&keywords=7mm+2.5+hdd

Work on my ThinkPad x220?

>>60565934

>would a standard 2.5" 7mm SATA drive work in my X220

Yes...

>>60565934
>2017
>hdd's

just got my first ThinkPad, a T420.
what OS should I install? I want the ultimate meme machine.

>>60566033
Sorry if it was such a stupid question. I researched online and some autists said it would bottle neck.
>>60566119
-_-
>tfw no money for ssd

>>60566199
w10 enterprise

>>60566219
if you're considering putting a $50 HDD in it as your main hard drive you are making a huge mistake

>>60566272
I'm open to suggestions

>>60550124
show?

>>60566287
a 120gb ssd, or whatever you can afford

once you use a machine with an ssd you will never go back

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>>60548431
I would just like to interject for one moment. What you're proclaiming to be Linux, is really, GNU/Linux, or as I just the other day began to call it, GNU + Linux. Linux isn't an OS by itself, but actually another free component of a fully working GNU system fashioned into something practical by the GNU core libraries, shell tools and essential system components comprising a full OS .

Many computer owners use a subspecies of the original system everyday, without knowing it. Through a strange happenstance, the edition of GNU installed now is often called "Linux", and many of its owners have no knowledge that it is in actuality the GNU system, created by GNU developers.

There is in fact a Linux, and this population do have it installed, but it is but a part of the system they use. Linux is the core: the program in the system that gives out the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The core is an essential part of an OS, but cannot work on its own; it will work only in the shadow of a whole OS. Linux is normally installed in combination with the GNU OS: the whole system is in actuality GNU with the addition of Linux, or GNU/Linux. Every one of the alleged "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60566219

>some autists said it would bottle neck

The drive would bottleneck the computer or the computer would bottleneck the drive? I'm assuming the former. A HDD bottlenecks anything due to the nature of it. If you don't have the cash, either just wait, or use a small capacity mSATA SSD as a boot drive and any HDD in the SATA bay for storage. While the X220's mSATA slot will operate at SATA 2 speeds, it'll still be way, way more responsive than the HDD.

>>60566337
>>60566315
https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-SP120GBSS3S55S25AE-120GB-Internal/dp/B01M61OXRM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495653172&sr=8-1&keywords=120gb+ssd+7mm+2.5

That a better option? What do you guys use?

>>60566369
i wouldn't buy anything other than samsung/intel/kingston

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Look at what piece of shit I just got
A pretty comfy 12" ultraportable

>>60566452
What's that?

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>>60566322
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

>>60563165
I did, I wanted to confirm and narrow down an issue.

Everything is fine now.

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>>60547509
Since ssd drives are getting cheaper i'm thinking about upgrading my T530 wit a ssd
Any recommendations or things i need to take into consideration?

>>60566833
>SSDs
>getting cheaper
They aren't, you know.

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>>60566582
HP NC4010
12 inch, about as big as an X60 I guess

>>60567013
Horrible.

>>60567013
Mah nigga
I also have one of these except it's a fucking project
>dead battery
>no hdd or hdd cage
>no ram, or wlan card
>usb ports broken off
>power on password
and I payed 10€ for this shit
FML

>>60567187
Well, the password problem can be fixed in 5 minutes
Unplug the rtc battery and power it on without the main battery

which thinkpad should i purchase if my goal is to be more cyberpunk?

must be coreboot eligible (no t440 heheh)

>>60567228
Yeah, I found the solutions on its manual but otherwise god fucking damn it. I pray to god that PCMCIA usbcard works on it so I can get usb ports. Of course I could true to solder those usb ports back on but it would require a fuck ton of disassembly to get the mobo out.

Oh well, at least it has a nipple

>>60567257
T30 or T60 for ultimate cyberpunk because reliable and well built machine with Libreboot option and no inte me. Downsides are that it only got 3gb-4gb ram depending on your chipset.

>>60567263
Make sure to clean the fan and reapply thermal paste
You are going to need a torx screwdriver

>>60548640
>>60548563
i have a w520 that came with a 1600x900 panel. i also had eyestrain; i think it's from the fact that letters look so fucking garbled on it, even after configuring cleartype.

just replace it with a 1080 panel, it will feel so much better.

>>60548485
Just run intelpwmcontrol.exe, dim the backlight and install flux

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>>60565934
yes, but seagate has some of the worst reliability of all the major hdd manufacturers, just get a hgst and call it a day.

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>>60567392
Alright, this should be nice and easy
>5.14 and 5.15
Nope fuck this, I'm not going to disassembly this much because it's 1am. Jesus christ, this is why I love thinkpads

>>60567475
Fuck me because I could buy a seagate 4tb hdd for 80€ but after seeing the reviews in amazon, it's a one hell of a piece of shit like holy shit. I think I'm just going to use more of my money to get hgst instead.

>>60567596
You only need to remove the single keyboard screw and the two screws for the bar on top of the keyboard

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>>60567638
Oh gee I wonder which one of these is it. What an useless arrow that is.

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>>60566617
Actually, Linus, what you're referring to as Linux, is in actuality, GNU/Linux, or as I simply the other day began to call it, GNU + Linux. Linux isn't an OS on its own, but rather another free section of a completely functioning GNU system fashioned into something proper by the GNU core libraries, terminal tools and essential system components completing a full OS as stated by POSIX.

Quite a few computer holders use a subspecies of the true system regularly, but do not know it. By a strange chance, the edition of GNU that is broadly used currently is often called "Linux", and its holders are not aware that it is really the GNU system, created by GNU.

There actually is a Linux, and they are using it, but it is simply a part of the system they use. Linux serves as the core: the program in the system that gives out the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The core is an essential part of an OS, but useless by itself; it is only operational in the shadow of a whole OS. Linux is often paired with the GNU OS: the whole system is really GNU with Linux added on, or GNU/Linux. Every single-called "Linux" releases are really releases of GNU/Linux.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01I37108W/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495658967&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=T530+adapter&dpPl=1&dpID=51GPi9HCBJL&ref=plSrch
This charger says:
>Compatible with Lenovo ThinkPad T530 Win 8 Model: ThinkPad T530 2392, 2392-ARU, 2392-APU, 2392-ANU, 2392-6HU, 2392-6CU, 2392-6BU, 2392-65U, 2392-B3U, 2392-ASU, 2392-AQU, 2392-68U, 2392-67U

Will it work on a non-Win8 T530 with a different MPN?

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Wait what?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-60GB-5400RPM-Hard-Disk-Drive-325524-001-Seller-Refurbished-/132175620938
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT CONNECTOR? THAT AIN'T PATA. Fuck I dun goofed real good.

What is that weird connector this NC4010 even uses? Proprietary connector? gosh darn it.

>>60567918
sure they are all the same

but I would just get a used genuine adapter over whatever the hell chink shit that is

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01L9RKM5K/ref=olp_sort_tax?ie=UTF8&f_used=true&f_usedAcceptable=true&f_usedGood=true&f_usedLikeNew=true&f_usedVeryGood=true&sort=taxsip

>>60567918
It should, no idea if that's a good quality psu though

>>60568017
It's PATA with a passive adapter stuck on it, don't worry.

>>60568057
Nevertheless, it's a piece of shit, because I have to use extra money for this nonsense. T30 has it a lot better system.

>>60568178
Doesn't the T30 have flexing though?

>>60568275
Flexing in what regards?

>>60547509
is buying a refurb better than used x220?

>>60568520
same shit

>>60568568
Thank you

>>60566199
Gentoo for ultimate meme capacity
Arch or Debian if you don't want to spend 2 hours compiling firefox

>>60561667
Any help here?

>>60568793
Nobody here has them

Just read the reviews

>>60566199
>meme
gotta be either Gentoo or Windows 10

>>60557637
Elitebooks are more clunky than thinkpads

>USPS lost my thinkpad
JUST

>>60567427
This. 1366x768 and 1600x900 panels on W/T520/530 are fucking eye cancer. Auo 1080p panels are worth every penny.

Im thinking of making a coffee table book with pictures of thinkpads.

anyone interested?

>tfw can't decide between w540withtrackpadmod and w530

>>60547560
wtf, I WANT SOME!

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been searching for an X220 in decent condition that has a 9-cell battery and fingerprint reader

why are 9-cell batteries so hard to find why did people order these niggers with the smaller battery on purpose what the FUCK

I specifically want the 9-cell because I want to replace the cells myself

but so many 6-cells WHY

>>60570700

>doing things with batteries other than plug 'em in
you'll shit your eye out kid...

>>60570735
we'll see who's shittin their eyes out when I have a 120Wh battery

>>60570998
Enjoy destroying the microcontroller inside the battery pack o, alternatively, explode your hand trying to solder the cells together.

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can you put a *30 keyboard on a *20?

>>60571215

inb4 vitriol

>>60563592
>>60562063
>>60547509

How are the sandisk and kingston SSD?? Could I consider it like an option?

I got an x230 recently, only $80 (no hdd or battery)

got battery, installed SSD, installed arch, its great

however the volume up/down and mute keys don't work, and neither do the brightness keys. what do?

Idk if relevant but I did flash the EC firmware because the battery I got was a x220 battery (same design for both x230 and x220 but x230 rejects x220 """smart""" battery auth code) I flashed it to disable that, but I don't think that should have an effect on keyboard

>>60547509
[embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEgxCg3pSyU[/embed]

Which one of you faggots is this?

>>60572075
did the keys work in windows?

>>60572161
never had windows installed on it (came with no hdd, like I mentioned)

>>60572161
nothing would suggest the keys should be malfunctioning, laptop is in great condition

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>click pay with paypal button
>error this listing has ended!
>what
>check listing
>sold 2 minutes ago

if only i wasn't so retarded and slow

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How'd I do? Planning to put Trisquel and Libreboot on it.

>>60552084

My t61p is still chugging along. Upgraded to 8gb memory, SSD, and it still kicks a little ass.

>>60569599
Also enjoy your keylogger audio driver on your elitebooks...

>>60571986

Fuck kingston, sandisk is pretty okay. Are you looking for msata or 2.5"? SK Hynix makes a really good 2.5" if you don't want to pay for a Samsung.

would an X230 be fine now?
how about with an SSD?

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>>60573889
yes I just got one and i fucking love it

pic related, mfw

>>60572099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEgxCg3pSyU

FTFY

>>60572075
pls halp

i enabled thinkpad_acpi, I can see the volume keys work (if I press them before login I get ^@)
I install tpb but i don't really know what I'm doing

My optic drive died.
Should I get a new one? or should I get HDD caddy?

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Anyone using their thinkpads to run VMs?
I'm looking to get x220 to use it to run WinXP/Win7 VM on Manjaro Guest
Is Core i5 2520M + 4 GB RAM enough to run VM?

>>60576063
Sure, I'm running a vm with T61 (3GB ram)

>>60575979
Do you use DVDs/CDs often?
If yes, buy external and caddy.
If not, just caddy.

Honestly, I would trade my DVD Drive for a caddy if I was given the chance; I have another one lying around and I could maybe plug it into a USB port, anyways...

>>60576107
What's the host and guest?

>>60576149
I test different distro frequently.
And I usually burned the ISO to DVD and boot from it.
Will burning the ISO to USB flash drive, provide better performance from internal optic drive?

Can i buy the B125HAN02.2 panel for my X260?

>>60576063
yes but you'll want more than 4gb ram

>>60576767
yes flash drives are faster than cd's, and easier to burn to and rewrite and more convenient

>>60577346
>more than 4gb ram
And what I don't have?
Are there ways to minimize RAM usage by VM?

>>60577380
alocate less ram to the VM, performance will be dogshit though once you drop below the 1gb mark depending on what your doing.

>>60571215
It would fit, but there's no EC patches to make it work correctly.
Also why the fuck would you put inferior *30 keyboard in a *20?

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Did I do good /g/?
Does the P51 come with the M2 caddy? I tried looking for it on their forums, but couldn't find anything.

Is there a difference between ibm thinkpad x200 and thinkpad x200 or is it a same thing?

>>60578767
same thing

>>60576717
Lubuntu and Linux mint. On my experience, windows 7 should run fine with 1gb ram, but you might not be able to run butter smoothly nor the video playback is very laggy. I personally would reconsider using any of those weird arch alternatives such as manjaro or antergos due to their still quite bloated nature even if it's basically an arch distro.

Nevertheless, you should be good think. Don't except too much from it tho.

>>60571986
I think I would go for a 2,5" becuase I only have 320gb of 5200rpm and have a few external hard drive if I need more space. It's just an option I wanted to analyze

>>60578926
What about running slimmed down versions like MicroXP?
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4254053/MicroXP_v0.82_-_eXPerience

>>60578964
I have thought of that as my go-to eroge OS. Even thought I already have one win7 32bit on my T60 for ultimate 4:3 eroge.
Tbh, this is my "babbys first" virtualization" which is why I went this retarded config of two pretty much same distros with different DE.

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>>60578764

I'm jealous (not in a malicious way. I mean to say that the laptop you ordered is one that I find to be very desirable, and wish that I could buy one as well). Hope you enjoy it.

>>60572775
Shit since x220 will have libreboot by end of year and x200 already does.

>>60578764
Okay I guess. Too bad the processor benches lower than ivybridge.

has anyone been far as decided to successfully put a 1st gen x1 carbon screen on their t430 yet?

Does linux support active protection system on T430?

can my t430 (hd4000) handle dual-monitor daisy chaining over displayport while docked?

>>60580632
I believe you need displayport 1.2 to do daisychaining and I'm pretty sure T430 (and other *30's) do not have dp 1.2

I think, not sure, but that info should help you

worst case is you would need to plug one dp into the laptop

>>60580652
Or i could use dvi on my dock to run the monitor on dvi --> hdmi. I was just wondering whether i should source the 4338 dock (i have 4337 with one dp, dvi and vga).

>>60580688
assumed you needed 2x dp for 1440p

but yeah dvi or dvi to hdmi would work for anything 1080p and under

>>60580700
i just bought two dell u2414h monitors. i was deciding whether to get one 1440p or two 1080p monitors and i went with two. hdmi should be ok then.

>>60580632
HD4000 only supports one external display

>>60580981
it supports 2 up to 1440p

Do thinkpads without camera have thinklight ?

>>60581003
No, that's the Optimus model.

>>60581397
At least my X200S and X60s does

>>60581575
no, hd 3000 and hd 4000 can support two monitors up to 2560x1600 over displayport

I know because I have one sitting in front of me

>>60581768
With or without dock?

>>60581397
My T61 has a light and no camera.

>>60581780
well no thinkpad has 2x displayports built in as far as I'm aware

I need a laptop for college. I'm a computer science major so good compile time would be nice
Budget: 500
Location: usa
Size: I don't care
Performance: I'm a computer science major so a bit more power would be nice
Other requirements: none

Thanks guys

>>60563690
coxwizards?

Bumpin bread

>>60582164
VGA + DisplayPort or HDMI + DP

>>60582858
vga can't do 1440p and dvi->hdmi can't do 1440p either

>>60582871
oh and the dvi port is not a dual-link dvi, so it can't do 1440p

>>60582871
Okay smart ass - can you run two of any display combination without a dock? Any resolution.

I don't think it works, but if it does please let me know because I'm fairly certain you can't.

hey there
im wanting to upgrade the ram on my t61 but im struggling to understand how to identify which ram is compatible and which isnt
would anyone mind telling me how to determine this
thanks

>>60582928
You need DDR2 in SO-DIMM (laptop) form factor. You can install 1, 2 or 4 GB modules, one in each of the two slots.

Is it normal that the ThinkLight shines a tiny little bit when it's not turned on?
I mean, it isn't on, but it kind of shines a little.

Also, I saw a T43 (or whatever the model with a Pentium M @2.13 GHz is) for sale for about $40, the seller says that the problem seems to be that the screen turns on for a bit, then turns off, but that it can be used with an external monitor just fine. What are the chances he has a setting on the BIOS that tells the system not to use the internal LCD?

I am currently in the process of buying a Thinkpad. The choice stands between T430, T420 and T420s.
I will do upgrades, if i get a 430 I will upgrade the keyboard to a T420 back-lid keyboard. I've got some ssd's that I will use, I will get rid of the optic drive and replace it with something that I will actually use. I will upgrade the ram to a suffisant lvl . Probably get a chink battery, and I might replace the screen further down the road. Screen of the ones I've looked at are all 1600x900 res.
Usage is mostly shitposting and surfing, watching vids, writing assignments for my masters degree so not heavy usage at all.
Any pointers as towards what I should go for is most appreciated. Are the T430 significantly better in terms of upgradability? Any disadvantages to the T420s vs the T420? I live in Scandinavia, so the market is somewhat scarce, I am looking to spend between 180-240 USD, I have found some alternatives, but did not decide which model I should go for.

>>60582899
don't care, the Intel HD 4000 graphics support two displays up to 2560x1600 over displayport

>>60583156
There is literally no choice other than the T430.

T420s can't have its CPU upgraded.

T430 can do EVERYTHING a T420 can but better. The only reason you get a xx20 is price.

how hard would it be to replace the monitor of an X220T?

after five+ years of usage, i have burn in like a motherfucker.

>>60583311
it's not hard but the new display will probably have the same problem after a few months

use a screensaver, it helps a bit

>>60547509
New Thread

>>60583331
>>60583331
>>60583331
>>60583331
>>60583331

>>60583304
Ty anon, this actually helped me a lot.
It's decided. I am getting a T430.

>>60582978
cheers, thank you for being so thorough
for some reason ive got the suspicion that if you have 2 ram strips(?) in the same laptop they have to be the same size (GB); is that true?