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If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
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1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
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Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

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https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

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https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/749768
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

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http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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Is there a good equivalent to ShareX on Linux?

I mostly want to be able to screenshot a particular area, and then automatically upload it to e.g. puush while also saving a copy locally, then gain easy access to the puush link once it's uploaded - ideally by putting it in the clipboard. Easy access to recent links is a bonus.

I'd be open to throwing a script together myself to achieve that if there's no good existing solution. What tools would I need to use in that case?
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I plan on installing Gentoo tonight.

I have a python/scipy application that needs to run for another month. My PC tends to overheat pretty easily.

I need to limit my CPU speed (i7 3770, non K) without underclocking (since my mobo doesn't allow it). On windows I can just set a global CPU usage cap (I have it set at 60% right now). Is there anything equivalent for linux?
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>>60354095
>>60354006
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>60354095
tlp allows you to do exactly that. I have my thinkpad limited to 70% performance right now to lower temperatures.
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>when winfags get ransomware but you jump that ship long ago
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>>60354130
sorry, friend
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>>60354130
*Linux
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>>60354165
GNU/Linux*
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>>60354159
>when you're a winfag but you literally don't care because all you'll lose are some game saves and if it does happen it'll finally persuade you to jump ship
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>>60354130
>I'm available tonight
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>>60354095
>installing Gentoo tonight.
haha, you plan to *start* installing
>>60353504
/g/uys, is running GUI apps as another user (KDESU) sandbox it strong enough 4daily use? (i mean diffrent user 4 firefox, diif 4 media etc). or should i use "normal" sandbox eg firejail?
>>60354159
this
>>60354209
kys nig
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>>60354193
*Linux
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>>60354233
GNU with Linux installed
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>>60354240
What if I have busybox with linux installed though
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>>60354233
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>>60354006
I do not know of a program as robust as ShareX, but I know xfce4-screenshooter lets you snap particular areas and instantly upload to imgur.

There is also Gyazo on Linux but that is proprietary software.
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>>60354295
nu-Linux
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>>60354275
I don't know, anon. Busybox would propably still say GNU/Linux since it emulates GNU/Linux.
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>>60354314
GNU/Linux*
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>>60354316
lmao, it actually does
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>>60354360
Thank you for correcting me
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>>60354409
You should use busybox for serious business tho. It's too much stripped down and buggy, especially things like awk, grep and sed may fuck up things. Good enough for a router or something like that.
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>>60354481
shouldn't*
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>>60354160
/g/ wont be the same
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>>60354275
I guess you could call this a linux system, since there aren't two different OSes involved, just the Linux part.
>>60354481
>buggy
For example?
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>>60354226
bump
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>show up out of nowhere after 18 months and change the fucking version number to make it appear like the project isn't abandoned
>prior to that it was abandoned for 5 years
>it's been virtually untouched for 7 years

threadly reminder to stop using deprecated dmenu and upgrade to based rofi
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>>60354634
good advice t.b.h.
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>>60354314
Looks good, but then
Conflicting options: --upload and --save cannot be used at the same time.

Dangit.

I know I'm not using anywhere near the full capabilities of ShareX - I literally only need what I described in my post. What could be the best way to go about that?
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What's the best lightweight and user friendly distribution of GNU (with Linux added)?
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l-lads
cheeky linux user here
am I safe from wannacry?
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>>60354738
Emacs
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>>60354738
>lightweight
on my old netbook i use debian with lxde. just werks.
>>60354767
also this
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>>60354601
The main problem is that most options (GNU extentions) simply don't exists because busybox wants to be as small as possible. xargs for example can't do stuff in parallel, grep has no perl regex, cat has no options at all, etc. Then there are actual bugs like integer overflows
>awk 'BEGIN { printf "%d\n", 10240000000000/1024 }' will return a minus value
and some regex differences with grep and sed.
There things aren't "really" a problem when you write portable scripts, but it's useful to be careful.
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>>60354738
Try GuixSD buddy. I can't await the 1.0. The package manager is amazing.
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>>60354738
Source Mage GNU/Linux
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>>60354843
How is it better than pacman, apt, zypper or dnf? I mean it's just a syntax thing.
sudo 'package manager' install 'package'
 How does guix improve upon this?
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Will someone please tell microsoft to lay off the coke no one wants to tun an entire 3d engine on their desktop
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>>60354738
There's no such thing as a "lightweight distro", unless you're actually trying to run it on sub-1GB RAM toasters or something.

The DE is the main thing that can be light or heavy. I'm an xfce shill, or you can go lxde for even less weight, or just screw it all and use a tiling WM
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>>60353504
http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-is-windows-10-s/http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-is-windows-10-s/

looks like year of GNU/Linux comin faster!
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>>60355049
This is nothing new. WindowsRT was the same thing.
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>>60354006
scrot -s
allows you to select with the mouse the part of the screen you want to screenshot

scrot in general is quite a powerful command line screenshot tool
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>>60355162
>not using import
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>>60355162
Nice, but can I then save it to a folder, upload it somewhere, and get the link to the uploaded file in my clipboard?
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>boot live cd
>xcfe looks better than expected, icons are neat, menu search great, shortcuts working out of the box
>install
>garbage ass ugly shit menu doesn't have a search and no shortcuts whatsoever
What kind of bait and switch is this?
Seriously though, is there a way to just load the settings and stuff that manjaro has in the live cd? I don feel like spending half a day to put this is a working state.
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>>60355296
>I don feel like spending half a day to put this is a working state.

Good. One less idiot tainting the xfce userbase. Especially when you can fix most of the problems in 3 minutes flat or less.
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What's the best file manager?
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>>60355296
Pleb
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>>60355439
I mean, if people don't spoonfeed me I'll just have to figure it out one way or the other.
I'm just shocked about the decision there, why would they show how good it is just to strip it out a minute late? The other Manjaro distributions kept the same theme in the live cd and after installation.
Also do keep it friendly.
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>>60355523
bash
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>>60355286
>can I then save it to a folder
yes, scrot can specify the folder and filename

>upload it somewhere
basically you will want to make a bash script to do everything you want. the screenshotting, saving, and naming of the file would be done with scrot. to upload the file, Im not sure if its the best option for you, but you can use the ftp command

>get the link to the uploaded file in my clipboard
this should be easily able to be implemented in your bash script. This whole thing you want to do can be implemented in a bash script that is only a few lines in length
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What is the best Navy rating or Army MOS if I want to work with Linux in the military?
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>>60354634
rofl is bloat
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>>60353504
Hello gentoomen
I booted the minimal gentoo installation CD and lo and behold I have no ethernet driver.

My laptop is an acer and its nic is called Acer Nplify.

How do I get the driver?

>inb4 read the handbook
It is literally not in the handbook.
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>>60356031
>google it
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>>60354947
>light weight
>sub 1GB RAM

get the fuck out you new cunt. I have Debian with a fully functioning GUI on my netbook (which only has 442MB RAM) and it boots into less than 40MB RAM use
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>>60356005
How
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How can I overdrive the colors based on distro on screenfetch? I'm uncommenting this line:

textcolor="\e[1,34m"
labelcolor="\e[1;34m"


But it does nothing. Not even when I change the values. What am I doing wrong?
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>>60355574
That is odd because I just installed Manjaro Xfce the other day and it was fine. Something fucked up for you
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>>60355994
11x since it sounds like X11
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Which is the best distro for a 1GB RAM toaster?
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>>60356556
Never mind, I'm an idiot, you can change the colors with -c.
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>>60357020
Debian Stable with LXDE
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>>60357020
debian with xfce or lubuntu (or solus)
it won't be much fun in either case though, since any browser will eat it all up
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>>60357020
puppy
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>>60357130
That's only if he tries to use a browser like Firefox or Chromium. If he choose Midori and tweaks the settings so it doesn't load unecessary elements, he'll be just fine.
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Are AMD drivers good yet?
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>>60357537
Never
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>>60353504
>Arch Linux
installed plasma KDE
uninstalled Gnome login screen
uninstalled Gnome
rebooted
dropped into emergency console, cant even ping?

hlep -- donot wanna have to install this pain in the ass again
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>>60358056
You fucked with your boot loader somehow.
Boot livecd and use pacman.log to revert your mindless uninstallting
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gtk+ or qt?
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>>60356918
>undetermined infantry
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>>60357020
>>60357130
Debian with OpenBox or IceWM
Why waste RAM on a full DE when a WM works better
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>>60358377
qt has chromium botnet
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how stable is gentoo testing (~amd64)?
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>>60353504

Check Fb group Linux if you need help ....
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>>60358704
What is "Fb"?
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>>60358792
normiebook
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I'm using MATE desktop with openbox as a window manager, and I'm trying out firefox for the first time. But i'm being driven crazy by the panel at the top of the screen. It's ugly and it removes screen space for no reason. Is there any way to remove it and have the min/max/close buttons be on the same panel as the tabs? I know chrome/chromium has an option to bring it back to the default appearance, but I'm not sure if that's available on firefox.
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>>60358704
This must be bait.
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>>60358901
Turn off borders.fine the keybind using openbox man
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I've seen the statement "Xfce is to Gnome what Lxqt is to Plasma" on the net. Can someone explain it to me? Does it mean Xfce/Lxqt is a lightweight fork of Gnome/Plasma? Or does it refer to the fact that one pair uses gtk and the other qt?
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>meanwhile on reddit
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>>60358949
Thanks for the advice, but I must be blind cause I am not seeing anything about disabling borders in the man page. Do you happen to know what it is?
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>>60359180
delet
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With this recent malware stuff going on I kind of want to go a distro again. I had Arch but my friends kept pressuring me to play games not able to be played through WINE or natively, so I went back. Don't want to dual-boot either, so it's one or the other.

I can probably get everything I play to work, but I have yet to find a way to play Victoria 2 on a distro. One of my favourite games and I'd hate to leave it behind.

I'm also curious if I can use torrented DLC on CK2 natively on Linux since it's just files, but apparently you also need to use the activator. Would I be able to use the activator through WINE but then play natively? I don't know if this makes sense what I'm asking.
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I recompiled the kernel to support audit framework. But now my tty and log is being spammed with ~1 million lines per second.How do i use auditing without this nonsense?
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>>60359702
https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/29f9ft/it_took_four_hours_but_i_finally_got_victoria_ii/
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>>60359702
install ubunut
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>>60359876

Shit. My copy is torrented.
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I'm trying to set up my HP 8610 printer to my recent arch install. I've installed the needed CUPS packages, and I'm now going through the configuration in the browser gui config those packages come with. But I can't find my printer listed when it asks me to select my printer. So what's my next option? I see an option to add a PPA file, but how do i get that?
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Should I drop Gnome for KDE?
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>>60354130
>>nda declined

WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS?
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>>60359983
Idk, anon. What would be better for you?
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>>60360066
my laptop is old, Gnome uses too much RAM
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>>60360192
try xfce
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>>60360203
I also use XFCE, but lacks in extensions, and I've heard good things about KDE; I'm downloading the ISO to try it out
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Anyone here use lemonbar? Not interested in ricing discussion, I'm more interested in if anyone has some clever scripts, cool buttons, etc.
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>>60360231
Why would you download an ISO for a DE?
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>>60360329
to try it out live, and also my / partition is at 90% lol
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>>60360231
Try MATE. Super lightweight, but still easy to make look good, and a decent amount of extensions or applets
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>>60360255
just browse some dotfiles on github to get some inspiration
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>>60360370
I'll try KDE and then MATE

I only tried Cinnamon in the past, and it was buggy for me; wished Gnome was as fast as xfce...
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>>60360371
that's what I have done and continue to do, just wanted to have a conversation with likeminded people if they're here
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>>60354738

antiX is my go to lightweight distro.

Debian based, runs in about 200MB of RAM, systemd free if that matters. Installs easily and comes in two pre-configured versions, Base and Full. ISOs are less than 700MB. Base comes with fluxbox and Full comes with IceWM,JWM,fluxbox and some weird tiling WM I can't remember.
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>>60355550

What in the fuck?
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>>60360548
I love lemonbar. I also abuse it as notification daemon like this.
{ echo '%{c}ur a fagget' && sleep 3 ;} | lemonbar -b -B '#111' -F '#ddd' -f fixed
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>>60360710
>WM Theme: Chicago95
>Icon Theme: Chicago95
>Font: Sans 10
learn2rice
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>>60361024
>Font: Sans
wat
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>>60353504
What's the USE flag for only open-source software (Gentoo)?

I was never able to find it back when I used Gentoo but if such a flag exists, that would make me choose Gentoo over Arch.

Is there any other way to make Portage only look for Open-Source/Libre software?

If I don't find out in this thread, I'm installing Arch Linux.
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>>60361347
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/make.conf#ACCEPT_LICENSE

Arch doesn't allow you to filter by license.
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>>60361376
Looks like I'm installing Gentoo.

Is it possible to do Hardened with an LTS kernel?
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>>60361416
> have to manually reinstall the kernel every single time

Screw that. Arch Linux for life.
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>>60359702
Considering Paradox uses the same engine for all their games I kinda doubt Victoria II should give you much problems.
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Trying to install sol2 for lua work, but I'm struggling (still a new user). Now, when I try to install something usually sudo apt-get install is all I need for libraries like SFML etc, but sol is something from github.

Is there any way to install this so that when I compile I can do -lsol2 instead of finding the path to it? Thankyou!

Sol2: https://github.com/ThePhD/sol2
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>>60362014
Maybe use a makefile or bash script to simplify compiling it?
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>>60362124
Would this help? I tried using it but I'm not very good with new things without much to go off :(

http://sol2.readthedocs.io/en/latest/cmake.html?highlight=install
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>>60362149
Yeah, I'm not familiar with build systems but you should be able to use that script with cmake to link sol.
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>>60362249
```
CMake Error: Could not find CMAKE_ROOT !!!
CMake has most likely not been installed correctly.
Modules directory not found in
/home/ashley/Desktop/share/cmake-3.5
CMake Error: Error executing cmake::LoadCache(). Aborting.
```

I'm not doing so well with cmake :/
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>>60354409
>Using busybox on a desktop

The fuck is the matter with you? That's for embedded systems, jfc...
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>>60355574
>I'm just shocked about the decision there, why would they show how good it is just to strip it out a minute late?
They don't. Did you do an install while keeping your /home partition?
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I need a software recommendation!

I've been using sketchup on windows, and need something similar for linux.
What's good? FreeCAD?
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Wait so can I convert all my ogggs to mp3 now?
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>>60364235
Yes but why would you?
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Just wondering if you guys hvae any tips to help me break my addiction of using root for everything

Typing sudo then my password every time is so annoying, especially when Keepass is closed
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>>60364327
because it's free now
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what's the difference between
 chmod +x file 
and
 chmod u+x file 
?
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>>60364338
that doesn't make it good
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>>60364331
>having your sudo password in a keepass file
wow

Just chose a password that you can actually remember and type out quickly. It takes me less than two seconds to put in my sudo password.

To avoid being pissed off by sudo, use sudo !! or thefuck alias wrapper.
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>>60364386
I suppose that would be fine but I'm a Windows user and most the time I'm using Linux is on my Dedi/VPS(s)

I don't really want to compromise my security in any way
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>>60364411
fine on the desktop*
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>>60364411
>I'm a Windows user
>I don't really want to compromise my security in any way

You what?
>>
Is there more to a distro than just %CurrentLinuxKernel% + Bundle of programs + Preconfigured desktop environment?
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>>60364438
The security of my Dedi
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>>60364446
Preconfigured everything.
Amount of that depends on the distro though.
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>>60364411
>I don't really want to compormise my security in any way
>runs everything as root
u wat

If you're really anxious, you could do this:
- disallow ssh for every user except one dedicated ssh user (w/ keys only ofc)
- as that (non-sudo) user, su to root w/ your supersecure keepass password
- as root, su to your regular, sudo-enabled user with a memorable password.
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>>60364577
>>runs everything as root
So privilege escalation is impossible. So clever.
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>>60364577
Thanks for the tips
I also randomized my SSH port
is there anything I can do to stop sudo -i granting immediate root access?
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Daily reminder for all you debian ubuntu fags

If you burn CDs use cdrtools, NOT cdrkit
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>>60359322
right click the fucking bar and toggle 'decorate'
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>>60364873
I use cdrecord, because it works.
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This feels so good!

Will install i3 on it.

Can anyone explain the added security of disabling automatic mount of the boot partition in fstab and how it should be done.
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>>60353504
So I wrote this service that turns cpu boost off.
Basically does this:
xecStart=/bin/sh -c '/bin/echo "1" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo'
The problem is it only works when I start it manually ( systemctl start n shiet ) it fails ( there is not 1 but 0 in the file ) on reboot yet systemctl status is patting itself on the back how successful it was. How do I fix this without switching to different init system?
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>>60364873
Why?
real q btw
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My toaster died yesterday and I will probably inherit Asus G550JK (2 yo but with i7 and GTX 850). I work at entry level IT position with RHEL. Should I install Fedora to get more familiar with Redhat after work or try Ubuntu... or something else? I know it's not adv but I'm looking for some friendly input. I plan to work with linux in the future. [spoiler]or should I fuck everything and install box on windows
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https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nosudo/
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>>60365152
was meant to
>>60364740
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>>60364913
pacman -Qo cdrecord
/usr/bin/cdrecord is owned by cdrtools 3.02a07-2

>>60365025
because if you don't you'll whine
>braserro killed my CDs, foss sucks
and the reason for this was some debian sperg
http://cdrtools.sourceforge.net/private/cdrecord.html
your cd burns fail, your distros know this and tell you nothing
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Is Fedora a good choice for my piece of shit HP laptop?
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>>60365263
ubuntu net install with openbox is the only good choise 4 your pos laptop
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>>60365230
>/usr/bin/cdrecord is owned by cdrtools 3.02a07-2
I never know the package name. I only know my binaries because I spend my life on GNU Bash.
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>>60365170
Thanks
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>>60365364
be sure that you're not calling a cdrkit symlink (or whatever its binaries are)
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>>60365502
Don't worry anon. I know what I'm doing.

By the way, what are the cons of cdrkit? (I do not really care, I do not have a CD burner).
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>>60365575
it's cdrtools from ~ 2006 with maybe a few debian patches that make it buggier
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>>60365622
>debian patches
Ha OK. Those are an abomination.
>>
I've been using Windows for years with all kinds of botnet software. Am I still able to protect my privacy despite all these years? I will move to another place in few months and I was thinking of switching to Linux when I get there.
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>>60365708
Switch to Linux, set up firewall, install gpg, generate new keys and voilà.
>>
Thinking of switching to Fedora. 26 seems to be right around the corner, if I downlaod the 26 Alpha will it freeze to26 or will it contineu rolling as Rawhide?

Should I install 26 Alpha or 25 and upgrade when 26 gets released. Does shit break when upgrading?
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What's up.
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I have a ripped album, but it's all a single .flac file. A .cue is provided with the song lengths- what's the easiest way to split it into songs on GNU/Linux with no quality loss?
>>
>>60365962
I'm a pleb so I'd write a Python script to fetch the track starting points from the .cue, then call ffmpeg several times with the -t and -s arguments as necessary. There's probably a more efficient way.
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>>60358056
Most likely the bootloader got fucked somehow
>>
>>60353504
============================
>>> ARCH WITHOUT SYSTEMD <<<
============================

1/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/runit/
> makepkg -cirs

2/ runit 1 2 3
check either ignite, void or obarun github for boot script inspiration BEFORE you restart

3/ re/boot with kernel parameter
init=/usr/bin/runit-init


4/ now you can safely get rid of lib/systemd and libgudev
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/eudev-git/
> makepkg -cirs
done

5/ get most of these
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=nosystemd
>mine for reference
pacman -Qqs nosystemd
dbus-nosystemd
libpulse-nosystemd
libutil-linux-nosystemd
mkinitcpio-nosystemd
procps-ng-nosystemd
util-linux-nosystemd
xdg-user-dirs-nosystemd
xorg-server-common-nosystemd
xorg-server-nosystemd


>troubleshooting libsystemd.so.0 error
rebuild using aur or abs disabling lib/systemd flags
>notable mentions
qt5-base mpv - both have aur pkgbuilds
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>>60365870
>using packages that are even more outdated than debian stable

wew
>>
>>60365962
Look into cuetools, bchunk and shntool.

I have done this several times in somewhat different ways, let me make some sense of my shell history.

One option goes like this:
cuebreakpoints album.cue | shnsplit album.flac


I think bchunk is only for bin/cue or wav cases, not flac.
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>>60358056
maybe you removed systemd along with gnome since it's a dependancy
remember when you want to remove
sudo pacman -Rsn

>>60357020
ubuntu network install with no additional pkg groups
apt install openbox after reboot
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>>60365979
Yes. You could use bash.
>>
>You switched to linux last week
>You see all the ransomware madness around you
>>
Hey, I never installed arch before and I want to try it. I plan on doing it in Virtual Machine first. Will all stuff like DE or WM work?
>>
>>60366106
put this in the OP my dude everyone needs to know how to do this
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>>60366485
>Will all stuff like DE or WM work?
Yes.
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>Debian
>Stable
It's been sitting here for the last 20 minutes
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>>60361213
It means the font doesn't have serifs :^)

Actually I don't know why screenfetch fucks it up. It's called "Less perfect DOS VGA" and it comes with chicago95.
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>>60364960
Stop using systemd
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>>60365088
How much work are you willing to put in to learn Linux?

You could always try unironically installing Gentoo if you want to have fun. But until you get really familiar with it and get it working as you like it, you might find it awkward to use your system day-to-day.
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>>60366106
>you can easily use runit on arch
wtf I love arch now
>>
>>60366159
>packages
>not compiling your free software yourself
>caring about datedness when the alternative is being nonfree
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>>60366949
just use parabola lmao faget
>>
Just installed ArchLinux with lxde desktop enviroment and it looks pretty shit, i also deleted the launchbar by accident and can't make it look right.... Can i get like a theme or something to actually look decent?If there is something like that.
>>
Does anyone in /fglt/ use Alpine? How is it?
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>>60367034
LXDE takes performance > visuals
use another DE if you want it to look good
>>
>>60367034
If you are looking for both eyecandy and lightweight VM you should go with lxqt which is made by the same developer. It's basically lxde based on QT.
>>
>>60364339
Read the manpage.
+x sets the execute bit for user, group and all others. u+x just sets it for user.
>>
>>60367034
>gnome-themes-standard
>breeze-icons
looks fine
plus your theme wont break on the next gtk3 update
>>
>>60367482
I am download gnome right now to check it's performance.Do you know how i could restore the default launchbar of lxde?I have googled and i couldn't find anything
>>
about DEs, how is enlightenment? I like the fact it's extremely light on resources but also has tons of features and decent wayland support but I've got the (wrong?) impression the development is pretty slow and so may suffer from instability and security issues.
>>
>>60354006
vendace.
but that uses imgur.
>>
>>60367661
it's good if you use the bodhi repos
>>
>>60367612
>right click on the panel
>add menu launcher
or
lxpanelctl start
or just lxpanel idk what you did

anyway you don't need more than openbox tint2 pcmanfm dmenu gpicview lxappearance
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>>60366840
I'm crawling towards system administrator but I don't have IT background. So far watching seniors at work and doing internal courses. As for home computer I want something that works at least for movies, music and internet, I will use additional virtual machines for experiments and education (CentOS). Gentoo is way out of my league at the moment.
>>
>>60355286

#!/bin/sh

file=$(scrot -s "$HOME/Pictures/%F-%T_\$wx\$h.png" -e 'printf $f')
url=$(curl -F "c=@\"$file\"" https://ptpb.pw/|awk '/url:/{print $2}')
printf "$url"|xclip -selection c
notify-send "Screenshot Taken" "$url"

You can turn this into something slightly better which can take a parameter to take either a screenshot of the whole screen, a screenshot of a selection or a screenshot of the current window (technically the -s option allows to do this last one as well as the second one).

If you don't have xclip use xsel or something else.

The notify-send is only useful if you have a notifcation daemon.

If you want to upload to somewhere other than ptpb.pw then find out how to do that via curl.

If you don't have curl - get curl.

ptpb.pw also allows you to delete uploads, so you could technically > the output of curl to a file associated with the image and then parse the file so you have all the info required to delete.

P.S. these google captchas are fucking retarded.
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>>60356005
it's literally 250Kb and only depends on xlib.
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>>60353504
Is http://wiki.installgentoo.com/ Down?
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>>60367830
works for me
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>>60367846
It has been down for over 24 hours for me, what's goin on?
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>>60353504
I'm fairly new to GNU/Linux and I was wondering if there is any documentation for beginners on how to build and install Linux-hardened on Debian.
>>
Do we all agree that linux on desktop is a dead end?
>>
>>60367948
what do you mean anon?
you mean running a hardened kernel on debian??
>>
>>60353504

I have just installed VLC on fedora 25. The window decorations of VLC look like out of WinXP. Whay is VLC not liik like other GTK apps ?
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>>60367980
Santosh, my son. You have to release now.
>>
How to install Debian on iPhone 7? Thank you.
>>
>>60366506
>everyone
eh, probably not
>>
>>60368004
I was trying to figure out how to build and install this:
https://github.com/thestinger/linux-hardened
>>
xfce is literally the best DE
>>
>>60367830
>>60367933
It's been having problems all week
>>
>>60368123
use this guide, but replace the sources with those you get from git. do remember to not download the zip, use git to download it.
>>
>>60368204
What guide.
>>
>>60368123
hold on lads
the last update for this repo was almost a year ago. you really don't want to be using this.

>>60368213
oops
https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch08s06.html.en
>>
OBS repo down for anyone else?
>>
>>60368233
Oh ok. What should I use instead?
>>
I want to learn how to install arch, but my proc doesn't support 64 bit virtualization so I can't use Virtual Machine to install it. Can I make like a 10GB partition and install it there without any chance to fuck my current system?
>>
>>60368240
Is their a newer hardened kernel I should use?
>>
Hi /g/. Choose a distro for me. I program all day and do some web development for living. I don't give a fuck about games, proprietary drivers or any of that shit. Netflix and Spotify would be nice though. I also hate KDE with passion.

I will not bother with Gentoo and I do not like Arch.

Thank you.
>>
>>60353504
>/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/749768
Thanks. Currently installing Dark Forces. Wish me luck, /dpt/
>>
Best free as in gratis pdf viewer on linux?
>>
>>60353504
What file managers other than dolphin have the file picker meme been fixed for so thumbnails fully work?
>>
>>60368857
GNU/Linux*

mupdf, or the frontend zathura
>>
>>60368688
it does work ! but it's a damn dosbox game ( ̄ヘ ̄ )
>>60368857
chromium or firefox
>>
>>60368895
The filemanager isn't related to your filepicker. It just looks like it because it's using the same theme. The filepicker is part of the toolkit you're using.
>>
Guys what distro should i choose?

I never ever touched linux
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>>60368947
So if a file manager uses GTK they'll all look the same with the thumbnails?
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>>60368995
Ubuntu Cinnamon
>>
>>60369002
Yes. There's a patch that adds thumbnail preview to GTK. Check the community repos of your distribution or compile it yourself (link is in the OP pasta). Alternativly install KDE.
>>
>>60368995
install ubunut
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>>60368995
windows 10 with the linux subsystem
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>>60369024
I know there are QT based filemanagers other than dolphin and I think GTK3 is better with thumbnails, but most are still GTK2.
>>
>>60369074
You don't understand, the filemanager != the filepicker. These are completly unrelated.
>>
>>60369052
>linux subsystem
>>
>>60369106
>You don't understand, the filemanager != the filepicker. These are completly unrelated.
They shouldn't That's one of the rare thing that Windows get right.
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>>60365870
Why don't you edit you i3status.conf? That looks retarded.
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>>60369106
>>60368909
hey, wait a moment.
>you play as commander Katarn
>you must steal the death star plans located on the planet Danuta
what the fuck is this? It's Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor who stole the plans on the planet Scarif.
give my money back!
>>
>>60369160
maybe you should go back, you don't get it
>>
What does /fglt/ think of the terminology terminal?
>>
>>60369002
I actually prefer this file picker. I used KDE for a while and the Windows like file picker was one of the main things I didn't like.
>>
>>60369175
I did, I removed what information isn't needed and added the volume thingy. I don't care if it looks aesthetically repulsive (that's subjective anyway) as long as it's functional.
>>
Is there a clean way to stop daemons like tor or the isc-dhcp-server from starting at boot? Or is taking the startup script out of /etc/init.d/ the cleanest I can get?
>>
Should i install ubuntu on dual boot or use it with virtual box ?
>>
>>60369610
Use it with virtual box to see if you like it then dual boot if you do.
>>
>>60369386
i know right
you can just type the file name and it selects it for you
>>
I'm giving my friend an old laptop and I'm thinking of putting mint on it since he's new to computing and all. Is mint the most entry core distro?
>>
>>60369610
don't do this >>60369624
ubuntu's shit in virtualbox
and it's pointless -- ubuntu can live cd
>>
>>60369675
Mint is for people who want Ubuntu but are too hipster to actually use Ubuntu.
>>
>>60369609
systemctl disable tor.service
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>>60369675
kde neon would be better
official ubuntu lts base
official kde support
best kde experience
>>
>>60369609
Touching the scripts in /etc/init.d is not particularly clean.

I've always used
sudo update-rc.d SERVICE disable
, where SERVICE matches the name of a script in /etc/init.d. I think this is for sysvinit, whereas systemctl as >>60369712 says is for systemd. Find out which is the appropriate one.
>>
>>60369718
I've tried Kde neon before and it was all over the place. Is it actually something people use to do work on?
>>
>>60369712
>>60369759
Thanks!
Sorry for bothering
>>
another day with no debian 9
it should be soon right?
they even gave up on secure boot to release it sooner
>>
>>60370501
Don't you like your stable systems? Why are you so eager to update now?
>>
>>60370501
There is only 111 more bugs left that need to be fixed before testing can be moved to stable.
>>
Which is better for ricing, LXDE or XFCE?
>>
>>60370855
none
>>
>>60370855
both
>>
>>60370855
>not writing your own desktop environment that works just the way you want it.
>best

Pick one.
>>
>>60370855
xfce, need to ask?
>>
Why should I use Debian over Ubuntu?
>>
>>60371162
-stability
-if you prefer not having to put up with the various shit of canonical
>>
>>60371162
No non-free software unless you explicitly allow it.
>>
>>60371217
>>60371223
I have a programming course coming up which recommends Fedora or Ubuntu. Would I be fucked if I decided to fully install Debian?
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>>60371245
Ubuntu is literally a repackaged Debian.
>>
>>60371245
not really, in case you need software not yet in debian stable (like docker), then you can install it form the backports or testing.
>>
>>60371162
Its Ubuntu minus retard-friendly trolling.
- no software center that tells you "free" means "free of cost" (and is acutally proprietary)
- no fear of spyware
- no cannonical dick up your but in general
- a nice community, where developes give back
- no kernel blobs by default, unless you ask for them

Ubuntu is nice for beginners, but when you feel save, it's better to use Debian (testing or unstable).
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>>60365870
you need to update the pasta
>>
>>60371778
How so?
>>
So i just installed Ubuntu, what do now ?
>>
>>60371868
install gentoo
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>>60371784
Typos, etc.

Have this one.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60371778
Depends. I think the typo pasta is the original, the updated one came later.
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>>60371919
Updated. Thanks.
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>>60370855
lxde because wm is openbox and it's window borders are easier to make a theme for
for example search gist for openbox adwaita theme
xfce is kinda similar still but not really for ricing, it's more of a ootb
>>
>>60371868
1.
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

2. Install a web browser, continue shitposting just as you did when you were using whatever OS you were using before.
3. Repeat step one every now and then.
>>
Is Dropbox really free software, or even open-source software?
I don't think so, because what you download is not the actual client, it's just a stupid command-line interface that you can use to download the actual client (
dropbox start -i
).
>>
>>60370855
fluxbox
>>
>>60354750
No. Send me monies.
>>
>>60371868
1. install gentoo
sudo apt-get install gentoo -y

2. start using your computer goddamnit. Browse the internet, listen to music, watch movies, write text, write programs, play games etc.
>>
>>60355162
>>
>>60372090
>play games
>>
redpill me on "load"

I don't get it

this is what my brain saved, please correct what is wrong

- "load" means the average cpu usage
- when you run update, the three load numbers mean average: 5 minutes 10 minutes 15 minutes
- percentages like on windows (cpu 100%) isn't a thing on gnu+linux

now... I'm used to think in 0%-100% cpu usage, isn't there a way to get this info?

help
>>
>>60372189
htop
>>
Plasma or Gnome for Debian?
>>
>>60372334
fluxbox
>>
>>60372188
>not playing supertux, xsok, gnome freecell and kmahjongg

SERIOUSLY HOPE
>>
>>60372334
GNOME
But it's a personal preference thing, try out other DEs if you can.
>>
>>60372359
Also extreme tux racer, 0ad, wesnoth, minetest, xonotic (good quakelike but harder to install).
>>
>>60372405
>minetest
How playable is that actually?
>>
>All these GUI games
It's like you guys don't even want your possessions identified.
>>
>>60372405
>not mentioning superior RTS warzone2100
>>
Just built a pc with some pretty good specs, which distro should I install in it?
>>
>>60372550
arch
>>
>>60372557

Sigh.. Back to Arch then
>>
>>60372718
Consider Fedora if you want up to date software/kernel with 6 month releases.
>>
>>60372531
this
>>
>>60372771
>6 month releases.
Sounds terrible
>>
What is the best terminal to use?
>>
Yall niggas need to check out the cube engine and games using it like sauerbraten, tesseract, red eclipse. It's heavenly. Imagine a would of cubes like minecraft, but more fine, and you can edit it together with others, even programmically since the clients for this game are free software (just the artwork have some different licenses) and at the same time it's an fps shooter, so you can play god, build a world shaped as mandelbrot and headshot your friend because why not.

I wasted 3 years of my life with this engine. It made me learning C/C++. It's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fOpHRrOBJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJRZHjyj7Zg
>>
>>60372771
Yeah.. thanks but no thanks. Can't trust Red Hat.
>>
>>60372863
That's impressive. How good is it on the performance side?
>>
>>60353504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBJQ4Lsodtg
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>>60372863
i guess there are lots of cheaters, kek
>>
>>60372865
had redhat ever did something wrong (telemetry? backdoors?)
>>
>>60372914
My single core laptop with integrated intel graphics got like ~60 fps, so you can imagine how smooth it is on a modern PC.

>>60373057
There are, actually most of them. But nobody cares when you're editing worlds. The community is basically 80% hackers.

One of the guys who made this thing is Wouter van Oortmerssen, the guy who made the esolang "false", which inspired languages like Brainfuck and Befunge, so can imagine from what corner these people come from.
>>
>>60373082
I don't know but I don't feel good using something that is backed by a huge corporation.
>>
I'm running low on disk space in my main partition where my OS (Arch GNU/Linux) is installed, but I have another partition on another disk where I can store data.
The problem is, the other partition is NTFS, and doesn't have Linux's file modes and all, I just made all the files 644 and all the directories 755 via mount options.
What I need to do is store packages for my package manager (*.pkg.tar.xz files).
If I I just move my /var/cache/pacman/pkg to the new partiotion, and then symlink it, would that work?
>>
>>60373162
same
>>
I'm about to inatall Mint because I'm not smart enough to install Arch/Void/Gentoo.
>>
>>60373207
It's not hard. What problems are you having. Don't joing the faggot side
>>
>>60373207
install ubunut
>>
>>60373185
Or delete your old archived packages
>>
>>60373185
Probably. Try it and if it breaks your package manager just move it all back.

>>60373207
It's fine but Ubuntu MATE may be a better choice.
>>
thread: >>60373225
>>
>>60373235
I've installed it multiple times on virtual machines, but i'm afraid to fuck everything up on the real system.
>>
>>60373207
Arch is not that hard, you can load a youtube video to assist you during installation or read a guide.

No idea with Void.

Gentoo.. Well let's just say you can try to install it through a VM for practice and then experiment on your actual machine.
>>
>>60373237
How do I know which are old and which aren't?
>>
>>60373185
If you're willing to try convoluted solutions, why not create a huge file in that NTFS partition, then make an ext4/whatever filesystem in that file and mount it? More steps, but you get an environment closer to what your package manager expects.
>>
>>60373264
Compare the version numbers?
>>
>>60373262
>No idea with Void.
It has an installer, it's pretty simple to do.

>>60373253
Dual boot? Make a separate boot partition to store the grub, unlikely anything will fuck up and if it does it's pretty simple to fix
>>
>>60373282
Can you explain you to do that?
Will I be able to add/remove files from the huge file?
>>
>>60373282
Why can't he just make another partition on the big disk?
>>
**DISCLAIMER: I'm working through this on my own already. The reason I'm asking here is for suggestions, but ultimately I am already going to figure it out.
--

Lads. I'm using i3. I'm trying to find a way to let tiles overlap floating windows. I've done a few searcherinoes for info on this, consulted i3 documentation, but I can't quite grep anything useful.
Has anyone here ever tried this? Does anyone here use i3 at all?

Any replies would be helpful, even if calling me a cuck or such for using i3 - I just need some direction on where to go on this.
>>
>>60373330
rtfm
>>
>>60373350
Piss off, you fuckin wanker
>>
>>60373376
Wow your fonts suck (no offense)
>>
>>60373376
>solarized colors
>>>/r/eddit
>>
>>60373376
Wow your fonts suck (Total offense)
>>
>>60373406
That's a baseless criticism. Unless you provide why my fonts suck using factual, logical explanation, it does not provide me any insight other than your distaste for my fonts. Thank you god bless :~]

>>60373412
The fact that you dislike solarized colors, and attributing them to "Reddit" does not provide me any insight, nor make any logical sense to me. Please fix this problem by MAY 13th 2017, 15:10 [UTC-04:00] thank you godbless :~]

>>60373440
Go away stinkey boy
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>>60373477
>>60373412
Solarized colors are alright.
>>
>>60373306
The general idea is:

1. Create empty file by reading bytes from /dev/zero:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/PATH/TO/NTFS/VOLUME/bifgile bs=1M count=1000

That should give you 1MB * 1000 = 1GB. man dd before you run dd, especially before you paste commands from 4chan.

2. Make a filesystem in that file:
mkfs.ext4 bifgile


3. Mount.
sudo losetup /dev/loop0 bifgile

sudo mount /dev/loop0 /mnt


As far as I know, losetup is some magic to bind normal files to device files so you can mount them and shit. Better run
losetup -f
first to find an unused loop device, lest you pick one that is in use and fuck something up. Run
losetup -d /dev/loop0
to unbind after you unmount.


>>60373318
The way he puts it, he has room in the NTFS partition but no unpartitioned space in the disk. He'd have to shrink the NTFS partition - does NTFS even support that?
>>
>>60373576
Thanks anon, I'll try this.
>>
>>60373576
>does NTFS even support that
Yes but windows tends to make some immovable files limiting how much it can be safely shrunk (assuming this is a windows boot drive, if not it can be any size).
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>>60373185
One thing I found out by looking at that folder is that TeX is really big.
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>>60373555
solarized is for people without taste who copy common taste based on common tastes based on shit people think which is common
its shite
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>>60373376
nice needles
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>>60373207
install this
https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
>Network installer
you'll have a working base systemd in minutes
you'll just apt install what you want after install
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>>60373892
>s/systemd/system
curse you poettering
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>>60373914
>linux torvalds
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>>60374003
RMS/torvalds*
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>>60372550
Slackware.
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>>60374003
GNU/Linux
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>>60354601
I know, for example, the busybox vi lacks basic
functionality like d1G or dG. I seem to remember
something like %s/something/else/ is broken.
I can't imagine using busybox sed to run a
200 line script on 500 files.
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