/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Is this the best budget setup for casual linux gaming (xonotic, 0ad, minetest) and web browsing?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HnDgxY

>>60331360
not a usual op, but last op, and at request instead of old op used the new op
i dont really fucking care if this is wrong anymore

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$615 option
May be better off spending more money for a 500gb+ SSD, or hold off for it for later.

>Upgrade path is to switch out the CPU and mobo, get ryzen 2 with a mobo, and add 8gb ram.
>Then you start to upgrade the graphics card until you come to a point where your CPU is a bottleneck.

>>60331370
>asus prime a320m-k motherboard
That's not am4, so your mobo isn't compatible with your CPU.

>>60331376
>No storage
>No case
>No PSU

>>60331360
>rx 560 for around 130-140 euros
or
>gtx 1050ti for around 140-150 euros

what to pick? I think the rx 560 already comes with zero fan modus in that price range. for the gtx it's around 160 euros.

>>60331450
This is if one already has those things. Besides they can basically be anything and still work fine, especially since there is no overclocking/blinkenlights ricing.

monitor guy here

Is that person still here? I have a 5000pixel (height) image of the chats with support. I want someone to review it as a rough draft.

what happens when moore's law is up?

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What's the word on hybrid HDDs?

>>60331599
no is the word youre looking for

>>60331599
don't bother it's bullshit
just get an ssd if you can afford it

>>60331570
It already is. Intel slowed way down with process size shrinking and the 4th *lake is still 14nm.

>>60331599
Doesn't seem like a good choice when you can get a 120gb ssd + 1tb hdd under $100.

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Am I going to have bottleneck issues if the only thing I want to do is upgrade the GPU to a 1070 or so? I think I've waited long enough (over 5 years now) as to where the current GPUs are not just a marginal upgrade, and the prices are more enticing than ever.

My 480 and 2600k are water cooled, so I'm OCing them as much as I can while maintaining stability. I think I got unlucky on the cpu though, as I've seen heard others easily push their i7s to 4.5ghz or higher on water, but I hit the limit there even while increasing the voltage.

Essentially, not sure if I can just get away with changing the GPU or if I should just scrap it all and go with a new build, this time only putting the CPU underwater instead of the mess of a full CPU/GPU loop.

>>60331599
>>60331644
I don't think there's anything wrong with them.
They're the exact same price, sometimes cheaper, than non-hybrid hdds.

If you have save files on the hybrid it'll probably start storing your save files to the flash nand.

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>>60331630
>>60331634
>>60331644
Well I'm glad I asked first.
I'd get an SSD but I don't like the idea of choosing what will get better performances over something else.

I want to dualboot Win7 and Win10, I'm not sure if filling up an SSD with just fucking Windows is all that worth it, when I never turn off my computer anyway.

Also if any of you happens to know any ways to install Win10 in such a way that it can only "see" the partition it's installed it and never even notice there's more storage available on the system, I'll be even more grateful.

>>60331778
>I'm not sure if filling up an SSD with just fucking Windows is all that worth it

yes it's worth it. one of the best upgrades you can make

>>60331649
You won't bottleneck too hard, but the next time you upgrade it'll be the CPU.
And yeah, seem like a bad silicone then, my 2500K is 4.4ghz with 1.312v at max.

It's kind of a waste to stick around with a bad GPU for that long though... That pretty much nullifies the money spent on the CPU, you never got to use it capabilities, it just stayed bottlenecked by the GPU.

>>60331898
So basically ACER completely fucked me over in every way possible. It's just a dead pixel but the worst part is the fucking shit support.

They tell me it will be fixed, they know it is a single dead pixel. I tell them I sending it back in exact original package.

They then take the product. Destroy the packaging so I can't send it to newegg. Send it back a week later saying nothing is wrong with it and that a dead pixel is not something they repair or care about. DESPITE the fuckers telling me to send it in because of the dead pixel.


They then tell me to take pictures of a 1080p screen with a shitty camera to prove it's a dead pixel. They then get pictures of the dead pixel and say I am lying because the shape (because it;'s a shitty camera).

what in the fuck is wrong with aCER

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noob question

does the the pc case usually come with the mounting screws for drives?

I have $400 to spend, what should i upgrade. I'm thinking just my monitor for now or maybe a new case until i have more cash to upgrade internals all at once

Current specs:
i5 2320
gtx 660
Samsung 23" SA350 monitor
OEM 8gb ram from 6 year old gateway desktop

>>60331972
404 fix your link

need more thots

XFX AMD RADEON RX 480 8GB GTR XXX or

GIGABYTE AMD RADEON RX 580 AORUS TXR, 8GB?


price is almost identical

>>60332054
yes. always

>>60331854

I was a stupid kid back then, jumping into watercooling for an incredibly retarded reason. I don't regret it though, since it was thrilling building a working loop.

Would I have any issues if I splurged and went for a 1080 with this CPU?

I figure that if all I upgrade is the GPU, I don't mind dumping the extra cash if it doesn't bottle neck too hard. I'll sell my watercooling kit (360 Rad, cpu block, fittings, drive bay pump / reservoir) and buy a Corsair since I still like the idea of water cooling, but I don't have the time to maintain the loop.

>>60331898
You should have read the pixel policy. A single dead pixel isn't ground for repair or replacement, unless it has a delux pixel policy.
Monitors are the scariest parts to buy, because of the dead pixel issues.

>>60332099
>dead pixel issues.
Fuck. How frequent is this? What type of monitors have more dead pixel issues?

Was literally about to start choosing one

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so ive been using a shitty dell inspiron for the past 5 years and im sick of it

would this be a good first build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/PK3bt6

id like to not spend more then a 1200 dollars on it (not including monitor or anything)
i live in the us and would like to play overwatch and bf1 and maybe some light video editing


id like to us this monitor with it

https://www.amazon.com/LG-32MA68HY-P-32-Inch-Monitor-Display/dp/B01IA9FXAO/

am i retarded for wanting this?

>>60332087
Is this for 60fps gaming? I think it would be able to keep up with 60fps, although it's not that highly clocked.
You might dip below 60fps sometimes, but I don't think it'll be that bad of a bottleneck.

Just look for 2600k benchmarks, like "2600k vs 7700k".

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This is my build

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rCLmjc

I'd like some input on it thanks.

Concern one is the ram clearance for the cooler, i can get 2400mhz ram cheaper ($150 that doesnt have a heatspreader on it, though I guess I can remove it on the 3200? Or would it get too hot?

Also ryzen cpus seem pretty bad for emulation but at the same time better for a lot of other stuff. Why is that? I plan to emulate a bit and want to be able to use cemu when its better optimised for lower end gpus like the 480.

Then another thing on the gpu. From my understanding the fans will turn off when its not gaming right? I read that was a feature on the gaming x gpus.

Thrn with the gpus theres also the 3gb 1060 and the 4gb 580 for the same price, am I falling for a trap by going for the 480 just because it has 8gb gddram?

Also I dont need anything else to set up the hard drives in raid 1 right?


Thanks

>>60332117
I don't know how common it is, I too am dreading a new monitor buy for that reason.

I'm hoping I can just buy one in a store, and ask them if I can test the monitor in the store.

>>60332138

With just the cpu underwater and a new gpu, I'll try pushing the cpu a bit more and see if I can sneak a bit more ghz out of it. Maybe I was too cautious when I was younger.

I don't mind if I dip a few FPS below if it means I don't have to replace the entire build.

Thanks.

could you order a refurbished one online and then go into bestbuy and buy identical and switch monitors and then return refurb in store box?

do they check serial #?

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- Dead Pixel on new ACER monitor
- Support says to send it in to have it fixed or replaced
- Ask if I should send it in original packaging, they say to do so.

20 days later
- comes back with dead pixel still there
- contact them, they say they do not fix dead pixels, can't answer why they said to send it in
- can't get a refund or send it to newegg due to lacking original package (mainly wanted a refund because I was so pissed at ACER)

so basically ACER is a scumfuck company that lies and fucks customers over. Tells them to send new monitor in if it has dead pixel, then destroy packaging, and send it back so they can't refund with newegg.

>>60332099
I did. I fucking ASKED their support.

The fucking service order literally says "DEAD PIXEL" on it.

I am upset they told me to send it in and said "we will fix it or replace it"

>>>60332148
>ryzen cpus seem pretty bad for emulation

I checked quickly and the R5 1600 doesn't seem bad at all, you just need to overclock.
I'm also buying that cpu.

>>60332127
that build is pretty bad and the monitor is outright terrible

>>60332208
Look up some benchmarks, they usually have very aggressive overlcocks though.

If you do go for a 1080, get it before you start going at higher volts. I think around 1.5v is supposed to be safe though?
Might be easier to sell if the buyer knows you haven't pushed it too far, once the time comes to sell the 2600k.

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Is amd cool n quiet still a thing with ryzen or do these chips modulate the fan pulse on their own according to the current workload (i think i've read something to that effect on some site earlier)?

Do AM4 motherboards even have the BIOS option to punch in the target temp?

>>60332127
>>60332274
https://www.amazon.com/LG-25UM58-P-25-Inch-21-UltraWide/dp/B01BV1XB2K/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1494531923&sr=1-5&keywords=lg+monitor

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>>60332242
well besides from tgis not being against their dead pixel policy you need better formatting to get people reading in the first place. Short title at the top, box in each segment, white out your name in this blue so you come off as a good guy.

>>60332264
Have you tried nudging it?
Pretty reasonable to be upset... How expensive of a screen was this?

Always read dead pixel policies though, some cheaper screens have pretty bad dead pixel policies, like needing 4 dead pixels close to each others, or have more than 16 dead pixels on the screen... On a 1920x1080 screen.

>>60332307
21:9 is a meme unless you're into racing simulators. iirc overwatch still doesn't have a proper support for it.
imo 27" 1440p ips display would be better. for 32"+ you want 4k resolution.

>>60332333
order from amazon. they take everything back

>>60332307
so thats better? thanks

do you guys have a link to a build thats good on pc parts picker?

>>60332354
>overwatch
ya who cares

>>60332127
get this

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-U28E590D-28-Inch-LED-Lit-Freesync/dp/B00YD3DBOC/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1494532204&sr=1-3&keywords=4k+monitor

>>60332333
I am not upset over the expense. I am upset over the support. I asked them what I should do about the dead pixel and they told me to send it in.

then I get it back with dead pixel and they insult me over sending it in. They made me take like 3 pictures of the screen and send it to them. Telling me how the shape of the dead pixel is wrong. etc

It's more the fact they told me to send it in. I send it in. Then they give it back and say "nothing is wrong with a dead pixel we don't fix those"

It's the fact I was doing what they said. That they said the would fix it or replace it. Then after 20 days of shipping + service they tell me nothing is wrong with a dead pixel and they don't service them.

>>60332366
I had all the original packaging. The thing is I talked to support and asked if I should use the original packaging and they said yes.

they sent it back in a brown box with all that stuff destroyed and then tell me to contact newegg. Newegg can't take it back without packaging.

Acer basically fucked me over as hard as possible over this. They told me to send it in over the dead pixel and then say 20 days later they looked at the dead pixel and it's not something they care about. I can't return it to newegg now either.

I looked up the amazon reviews for the Asus Prime X370 and there are a couple of negative reviews about getting one with old bios which can't be updated or the motherboard being bricked. I also checked the qualified vendor list for that board and it doesn't show the ram I got (F4-3200C14D-16GVR) or the m.2 ssd I want to get (MZ-N5E500BW).

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/HelpDesk_Download/

Can someone help?

>>60332386
thats a 180 dollars more then i want to spend

>>60332280

I looked up some various posts among some of the usual tech forums and I found that there was a generally favorable consensus that the 2600K would be fine, even with a clock of around 4.4 to 4.5. I think it's completely reasonable to think believe I could push just a bit more.

There's not denying that I'll be giving up some FPS, but mostly anywhere between 5-15 FPS depending on the game, which is totally acceptable to me if it means I don't have to buy a new CPU, mobo, ram, etc.

I'll definitely wait for the 1080 before I do anything crazy and see how it goes, then play with the OC after that. I'd be surprised if I could still sell this 2600K when I ever upgrade, but then again, it would be my first time trying to sell any old parts.

Thanks for your help.

are WD or OCZ m.2 SSDs good? or should I pay the Samsumg/etc premium?

>>60332148
>Also ryzen cpus seem pretty bad for emulation
An anon asked how they fared a few threads back and someone answered saying it was pretty good with PCSX2 and Dolphin with an image.

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- Buy brand new ACER monitor
- Has a dead pixel so contact their support for what to do
- They tell me to send it in, in the original packaging.
- 20 Days later get it back with the same dead pixel and original packaging all destroyed and a note that "It turns on for 24 hours with no trouble"

- Contact ACER for what happened. They tell me dead pixel is not a problem. They then accuse me of making it up, lying, and to get a refund with newegg.
- Contact newegg and can't get refund because ACER destroyed all the fucking packaging before sending it back

DO NOT BUY ACER ESPECIALLY MONITORS.

>>60332242
I feel sorry for you anon, but why you ever thought that cheap af chink shit company would provide quality products or good support is beyond me. Acer is basically the most chink shit company ever

>>60332127
i5 7600k is retarded because the R5 1600 dominates him, and that's exluding video editing / encoding performances
In video editing / encoding, i5s should not even be thought of at all. 6 cores 12 threads vs 4c4t, guess what happens?
Get an R5 1600 with a b350 motherboard, the cooler isn't needed unless overcrlocking

>>60332386
No point in getting a freesync monitor with an nvidia card.

>>60332449
https://jet.com/product/ASUS-MX259H-25-inch-Wide-Screen-LED-Monitor-with-built-in-speakers/9cbb6dfaec3b463abc6da023d9195a17

use their spring promo code and it's only $150

$189 on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/MX259H-25-Inch-1920x1080-ICEpower-Frameless/dp/B00UFCVKI4

>>60332547
gl finding a nice monitor without that useless freesync shit

>>60332068
please reply

>>60332572
gigabyte because it's a 580
xfx did a great job with their 4xx cards but a 5xx card still outperforms it

>>60332535
>>60332557
thanks

Are there any good mATX motherboards for Ryzen yet?

>>60332462
oh really? I might go with it then. I dont see any other benefits to an intel core at all.

>>60332528
literally because
It's a dead pixel in the top right (my perspective) of the monitor.
Rosa H.: Alright
Rosa H.: It is okay.
Rosa H.: In this case , since this is a hardware issue and we will not be able to fix it from here, the best solution would be to schedule your device for repair. Is important for you to know that the process of the repair takes from 7 to 10 days, (once we receive the device) and also, we fix everything that is wrong with the device (unless physical damage). Your warranty is up to date and I will be more than glad to assist in creating a repair case for you. And, due to the inconvenience that the device is presenting, we will provide you with the shipping label, so it means that you will only have to package the device.
Rosa H.: We will fix it and if we are not able to fix it, then we will send you a replacement.

>when an item you really want that's in your cart gets replaced by something several times more expensive because it's sold out
Fuck you amazon
This makes me want to buy the rest immediately just to be sure this won't happens again.
Do you guys just wait until you're set for everything before actually buying?

>>60332657
I sure hope the Gigabyte GA-AB350M-GAMING 3 is good.. getting that for my R5 1600

>>60331468
n-no one?

>>60331468
>>60332757
look at benchmarks for games you want to play
considering the difference in price is up to 20 dollars you cant fuck up that hard

>>60332719
buy when price is low. things fluctuate so much on amazon. monitor i wanted went from 250 to 400 in 2 days. missed my chance

>>60332788
>went from 250 to 400 in 2 days
jesus christ,
Will do just that, thanks. I just hope they won't get mad if I order several things every day or every 2 days

>>60332757
It isn't even out yet.

What's the point of buying 1700x and 1800x over 1700?

>>60332855
the only one that will hate you is the ups driver

>>60332242
Try buying from a brick and mortar store. Canada Computers in-store offers a $5 insurance policy for any dead/stuck pixels.

>>60332884
if you have money to throw around / big budged and want the best possible performance

>>60332884
>What's the point of buying 1700x and 1800x

Good question when Intel exists

>>60332884

1800x is to ensure you get a 4ghz capable chip. The 1700x is the bad buy - no certainty it will hit 4ghz and leakier than the 1700.

Will I run into problem if I reuse the RAM from my current PC, 8GB DDR3 666 MHz, in my new build, 8GB DDR4 2133 MHz?

>>60333012
you can't mix and match ddr3 with ddr4.

>>60333012
DDR3 doesn't go into DDR4 slots.

>>60333012
I dont understand the question, the socket types are not compatible with each other

>>60333030
>>60333034
>>60333037
Well that certainly is a problem, I just hate how expensive RAM is nowadays but I still want to get 16 GB since it's both for video editing and gaymen

>>60333060
>I just hate how expensive RAM is nowadays
everyone does

anyone help.

Bought a MSI B250m Bazooka from Amazon, the mobo works but the audio is muffled, im assuming its the mobo?, can it be anything else. The sound works but its got some muffled /scratching in the background.

is there any wires i should check, or its only the mobo and get it replaced?

>>60333120
are you using a monitor's speakers or headphone/external speakers

>>60333144

monitors speakers, im using display port, but also tried HDMI, and both having the same issue

>>60333155
does the same thing happen when you use headphones?
also try updating the audio drivers

>>60333060
>tfw just missed an amazing ddr4 deal
Fuck

>>60333060
ya why is ram so much now? shouldn't the opposite have happened?

>>60333167

good call man, just tried with my earphones and they are working fine, so does that narrow it down to my GPU?

>>60333060
Yep, I managed to get 16gb of 2400mhz DR ram, for "only" 114€.
In a couple of months I think the prices will be 2x of what it was during the lows last year.

>>60333238
might be, if you have an igpu you could try without your gpu to see if it's better

>>60333259

I just built this PC today, and I havent downloaded GPU drivers, its a RX 480, should I, could that be an issue?

>>60331360
Why does Gsync make the 1070 not worth it? How is gpu worth affected if I have neither Gsync or freesync and don't care to pay the extra cost for either?

>>60333224
There are only 3 main manufacturers and they are moving to a new node so they have low yields, and cellphones are adopting ddr4l and the manufacturers are shifting production to that so less ddr4 is being made for desktops.

>>60333284
It could help, my audio drivers were actually made worse when I updated mine with my 480 lmao

>>60332438
Don't buy AM4 Anus boards.

What type of overclocking and temps can you expect out of the 1700's stock cooler?

>>60333307

damn, I did have this in an AMD build before upgrading today, and i just swapped it out and stuck it into the Intel build, could that also affect it?, or thats what GPU should be able to do?

>>60333393
gpus shouldn't be affected by going from one system to another as far as I know

>>60333382
I haven't tried OC'ing my 1700 on the stock cooler, it can hit 71C under load. I would imagine 3.8Ghz max, if you're comfortable with temps in the 80s under load. I am quite content right now, I don't think i'll push it until I get another cooler in a year or two.

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>Stress test my 6600K at 4.5GHz/1.35V for 2:30 hours
>CPU-Z and Intel ETU disagree about the voltage
What am I missing?

What are your favorite mATX cases for under 100 bucks? The Fractal Design Define Mini C seems like the most popular one on PCPartPicker, should I just go for that? I don't need any fancy features or watercooling and stuff, just something that doesn't look like a 14 year old designed it and is easy to build in.

>>60333634
inwin 301 is probably a contender, should be out in a few days, if it isn't already out.

Handy overview discussing B350 boards and their VRM/heatsink/phase designs. In short:

>1. MSI Gaming Pro Carbon and Krait Gaming
>2. ASRock
>3. ASUS
>4. Rest of MSI minus the Gaming Pro
>5. GIGABYTE
>6. MSI Gaming Pro

If you're getting a 1400, boards without heatsinks are fine buys.
ASUS is coming out with another B350 soon (I believe the 18th) modeling their STRIX GPU design and is supposedly 6+2 phases.

>>60333727
Forgot link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI

>>60333727
Do bad VRM really prevents you from getting decent overclock?
I don't want 4Ghz+ stuff

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>>60333727
>ASUS is coming out with another B350 soon
Meanwhile I'm in pain waiting for a real manufacturer making an ITX board... They're coming out juni/july...

>>60333494
I honestly don't ever want to change my stock cooler after how much of a pain in the ass it was to get on for me, unless i'm an idiot and missed something

Yo what the fuck, peoples weren't kidding about the Gsync prices

>>60333767
I think it's down to how far you have to push your CPU/V. core voltage to get your desired clock based on your draw of the lottery.
For 3.6-3.8GHz the ASRock AB350 Pro4 is enough and is the cheapest ATX board where I'm from. The guy in the video noted that it's fine, too. The more expensive options are really if you intend to push 4GHz/squeeze the most out of your CPU.

>>60333771
why is it in thai?

>>60333811
It was probably the easiest part of my build. Just put it on and screw it down. Unless the adhesive came off your backplate, then that would be a pain.

>>60333824
When you're leading the market, you can shovel out whatever you want. Up to AMD to create even more competitive cards.

>>60333742
Does and overheated vrm shut the computer down? Or will it just break the board/cpu?

>>60333880
I see. The number of cores matters too, so I hope I'm fine with the Gigabytes mob with a R5 1600 running at 3.8/3.9 Ghz

>>60333889
Looks like japanese though... Probably because the manufacture company is japanese...

>>60333901
Well that would explain it, my backplate didn't even come with adhesive. It just plopped right off when I unscrewed the plastic piece that came with the mobo initially

If I'm only getting a 1080p monitor, would an rx 580 still be worth it over a 570.

Will ryzen 1600x bottleneck rx 580 or will it be good combo?

is a 600W XFX PSU enough for a Ryzen 5 1600 and a 970?

>>60333961
Technically, there should be some VRM auto-shut down protection by the manufacturer if it hits dangerous temps. It'd have to go pretty high though like 130C+.

>>60334019
I've seen that reviewers who change out the cooler often have lost the adhesive, but never on a fresh board. Bad luck.

>>60334004
no fucking shit.

>>60334039
Depends on the desired refresh rate.

>>60334075
Could I put my own on there? Like double-sided tape or something

>>60334055
yes but why the hell would you get an xfx psu

>>60334052
no, get a 1600 and oc though

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>>60334004
>>60334081

>>60334110
aren't they good?

I heard XFX and Seasonic and I guess are the best, but where I live I can't find any Seasonic ones over 300W.

I don't want to get another Corsair one because I'm having problems with a 650HX one, only 4 years old and my PC randomly shuts down while playing games, normal temps. Fucking bullshit.

>>60334130
I recognize that smily face as a japanese letter.
Maybe it was just a presentation in japan.

Either way, best mobo manufacturer.

>>60334157
and I guess Antec*

>>60334157
It's entirely dependent on product line to product line. Some XFX uses seasonic blueprints, with mostly the same components. Some won't, and they may be shit.

Coarsair also has that variance, some PSUs are shit, others are great (vengeance PSU for example is great).

>>60334195
Aren't the Corsair HX series supposed to be good?

Kinda bummed about having issues with my HX 650. I mean I guess that's the source of the problem, other than temperatures only the PSU could make your computer shutdown while under load, right?

>>60334085
Possibly. I wouldn't though, just get someone to hold the backplate for you if you need to swap coolers.

>>60331430
Get yourself a gtx 1060 3gb

>>60334295
Not a build I'm going to make, but I think somebody asked for a $600 build in the previous thread.

I'm getting RX 580 + r5 1600 + x370 mitx mobo + 16gb ram + 525gb ssd + 1tb 5400 rpm 2.5" hdd. For a modified raijintek metis build.

>>60331360
>R5 1500X will keep above 60fps in every game. No i5
>no i5
>i7-7700k is bad value but good; may have heat issues even at stock clocks
>lying about minor and isolated defective thermal sensor issues

Jesus fucking Christ the AMDrone shilling is off the charts here.
It should be
>G4560 for poorfags/MOBAshitters
>i3-7100/7300 for normies
>i3-7350K for entry level gaymers (DX11 or older, 1080p and lower)
>i5-7400/7500 for regular poorfag or Linux users
>i5-7600K for mid-tier gaymers (DX11/12, 1080p and up)
>Xeon E3-1240 v6 or i7-7700 for serious users
>i7-7700K for high-tier gaymen (1440p and 4K) or poorfag production (i.e. 1080p videos at near lossless or high bitrate compression, mostly H.264)
>i7-6850K or Xeon E5-1670 for medium production (1080p lossless/non compressed videos at H.265/VP9 or 4K medium compression)
>i7-6900K or Xeon E5-1680 for heavy production (all resolutions with HEVC/VP9)
>Ryzen 7 if you're a hipster douchebag who wants to alt-everything in their lives
>Ryzen 5 for dumpsters

Motherboard tiers (by quality)
>A320 - Garbage status
>B350 - Barely functional status
>H110 - Poorfag/beginner status
>X370 - Hipster/Almost functional status
>B250 - Smart buyer status
>H270 - Poweruser/moron status
>C232 - Mage status
>Q270 - Wizard status
>Z270 - Poweruser status
>C236 - Master Grand Wizard status
>X99 - Workstation status
>C612 - MemeMaster Warlock status

I need to transcode 5TB of H264 to HEVC as cheaply as possible. What can I buy/build/use to do this?

>>60334427
Anything, pretty much, it'll just be about the time it takes.

>>60334295
>>60334372
Also, 3gb is too little for gaming. Most games go above 2gb vram now, often hitting 3gb vram or above.

I wouldn't even get a 4gb card, unless it's budget, like 1050ti and rx 560.

>>60334398
Why would you recommend an i3 when g4560 is basically the same thing at half the price?
>no AVX
>HD610 instead of HD630
>0,4 ghz clock difference

Literally the only differences. 400 mhz, marginally better integrated gpu and instruction sets home user won't be using anyway are not worth twice the money.

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Where my mexibros at?

Have a budget of around $11k MXN (around $600USD)

Want to build something to play modern games on high/ultra. Need the parts to be available to buy in mexico. Any ideas?

>>60334628
I heard mexico prices were way way higher than US prices?
Don't think you can get such a computer for that amount of money.

Is there any meaningful difference between the various RX 580?

>>60334893
Some overclock better (they'll also be cooler if you undervolt and underclock them), some will have worse cooling, some will be louder, etc.

>>60334937
I see, thanks.
I'll check some comparisons when I have the time then, I'm mainly concerned about noise.

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Worth it for 1080p gaming?

So I just finished building a new PC, it turns on but when I connect the motherboard or the GPU with HDMI or DP I don't get a signal on the monitor. What could be the cause? Already tried booting with only one RAM stick.

>>60335028
um hello?
1080ti, worth It for 720p?

>>60335067
drives

>>60331649
>thermi

>>60332068
the 580
>>60332127

>>60332127
>intel
its shit

>>60335067
are the ram sticks in position 2 and 4?
if not put both in in slots 2 and 4 and try booting again

>>60335107
You mean drivers for the GPU?
>>60335133
Yeah they are.

>>60335144
try making sure the case power cables are plugged in properly, try flipping the switch on the psu (you never know)

>>60335028
the 580 is perfect for 1080p gaming. It's also a good price. The only games you might have to turn down the graphics settings on are large poorly optimized games (Console ports). Other than that you will be able to run everything fine on 1080p. Some things to make sure are good are that your psu has enough power for it and that it wont get too hot.

>>60332148
looks good, go for it

>>60332657
Literally almost any b350 mobo

>>60332984
>Intel
AHAHAHAHHAHAHA nice joke anon

>>60333120
you bought intel, you are beyond help

>>60333889
>thai
retard murifat

>>60334398
>the intelaviv shill is back

>>60335161
The CPU fan, the GPU fans and the case fans are working.

>>60335028
yes

>>60331360
Looking for feedback on these gaming builds.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/


Case recommendations would be appreciated. Requirements:
>black or neutral
>windowless
>no LEDs
>mid tower
>30-60USD

finished my new build but having one minor problem. the case I'm using, a DIYPC D480 comes with 5 fans installed hooked up to a fan controller. If I try to change the fan speed using the switches on the top of the case my system hangs. What would cause this and what should I do to avoid this? Because the fans run through the fan controller in the case I can't adjust their speed through software I'm assuming. Should I unplug them from the controller and use splitters to attach them to the 2 sys-fan headers on the motherboard?

1500 oc and rx 570 4gb or 1400 and rx 580 4gb for 1080p?

>>60334628
here you go mexi-bro I just put this together. It should run most games decently well. With the lga1151 socket if you want to upgrade to a better cpu later you will be able to.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/3NpsYJ

>>60335278
1400 and rx 580 4gb

>>60335262
this board has on board Ethernet so if you have access to your router you could take out the internet card and save a little.

>>60335289
wtf is that? Why no g4560? Why dvd drive?

>>60335289
Thanks a lot bro.
To be honest I think I just want to run old games up to the 2014~ era, and I'm in college so I barely have time to play. The only game I have on mind that I'd like to run on very high is Dark Souls 3, I think. Let me check the build out.

>>60335322
>>60335350
Thanks realized I put the wrong cpu will fix. DVD drive because some people like it, including me. You can always buy it without the dvd drive if you want

>>60335354
>>60335350
>>60335322
with your budget you might be able to get a 570 but it might bring you too close to over. But if you can save money now and upgrade to better parts in the future it's worth it.
>Updated parts list with g4560 and no optical drive
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/3NpsYJ

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Can a 520W PSU support a 1080, two hard drives and an OC'ed i5 3570k?

>>60335403
Plug in your build to pcpartpicker.com and you can see full details of your wattage and part compatibility

>>60331376
bump

>>60334398
Sorry but your CPU thoughts are borderline retarded. Mid range has been eaten by AMD, although the G4560 is still budget king.

>>60335278
1500X+570

>>60335403
Yes

>>60331376
for core components it is a good set up that will be able to run old games on ultra and new games on medium-high. Of course you will need to add case, psu and a hdd/ssd

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>>60331360
How did I do now? Is it better?

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>>60335434

I plugged in my parts on NewEgg's PSU calculator and it told me 620W recommended, but PCParts says only 376W?

>>60335498
It's fine

>>60335498
This might be a better motherboard for you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NdtWGX/msi-b250-pc-mate-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b250-pc-mate

>>60335511
I would get a 500 watt psu then. It doesn't hurt to have more power for OC'ing and expansion. Here is one that would be good for you.
>Modular
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8P7CmG/evga-bq-500w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-110-bq-0500-k1
>better efficiency
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DkL7YJ/rosewill-power-supply-valens500

Can you guys rate my build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gYVvFd

>>60335591
Looks good good price and good parts. If you're looking to buy this is solid

>>60335381
Is it too important that I get the CPU cooler?

>>60335575
I already have a 520W PSU

Trying to find out if it can support my current system with a 1080 swapped in.

>>60335623
can you post what 1080?

>>60335634
on second thought can you just post the parts list you put together

>>60334500
Yeah... I'm talking about doing it quickly, either as fast as possible or bang:buck.

>>60335613
yes you should always get a cpu cooler

Anyone see anything dead wrong with this list?


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J2F2LD

Purpose is to be the brain of an augmented reality sandbox and will be running Linux Mint.

More info on the ARS is here: http://idav.ucdavis.edu/~okreylos/ResDev/SARndbox/

Best keyboard+mouse combo with a budget of 30-40?

>>60335682
Kinect detects at 30fps so if its sole purpose is to run the ar sandbox it should be fine. If anything upgrade the cpu to a quad core ryzen, they are better for functions such as that
>>60335704
here is a good wireless combo

>>60335682
such a generic build ehy even ask. that program looks pretty cpu intensive if anything. make go for a 1600 and 1050ti instead.

>>60335704
none, youll only get membrane and chiclet

>>60335771
>none, youll only get membrane and chiclet
Even if I buy them individually? How about 45-50$?

>>60335704
Just werks

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Devastator-II-SGB-3030-KKMF1-US/dp/B01CDYAF28/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494547453&sr=8-1&keywords=cm%2Bstorm&th=1

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>>60335653
>>60335634
Got a deal on this 1080 so I figured I'd give it a go in my old system while I slowly work towards a brand new PC.

Just wanna know if my current PSU will be an issue or not. Not sure if I picked the exact cpu cooler and case tho.

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What's the best GTX 1050 Ti ?
Zotac, Gigabyte, Asus or MSI?

>>60335818
but you asked for combo and a lower price, you cant just change both parameters. just get the cheapest mechanical keyboard with your preferred switch type and whatever mouse you like.

>>60335758
>>60335771
So Ryzen 1500 or 1600 rather than an i5.

Which'll mean a different mobo anyway...

>>60335871
that order zo < giga < asus = msi

>>60335882
yes... get a 1600 and oc it. graphics could probs run off a 710 honestly

>>60335905
Wait a GT 710?

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What's with red having a monopoly on PC parts? 70% of what I look at have red accents or LEDs. I just want a subtle monochrome build, but it's hard with a lot of the highly rated/better priced stuff being so flashy.

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I don't know what you'd call this shape, oval or cylindrical maybe? Question is whether rubber isolation fan mounts will fit/work in these none circular holes?

>>60335498
>intel
>i5
its shit

>>60335591
looks good

>>60335871
the one thats a 570

>>60335882
1600

Why you dumb niggers think 1600 is better oc than the superior bin model

>>60335922
yes, its a cpu intense programme from yhe looks of things

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Hey guys.

If I have a 3rd gen i3 can I just pop in a 7th gen i5 without doing anything at all?

Thanks.

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So what's THE CPU to go with a 1080 these days?

>>60336181
7700k the best CPU on the market right now

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So I spent all day building this and it won't start up now. Am I doing something wrong? Can anyone help me out here?

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>>60336195
>7700k
nice try intel merchant

>>60336176
go away you dumb niggerposter

>>60336010

So other than that, should roll out fine?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v6DWd6

>>60336203
you plug it in?

>>60336203
Do you have a lower Res picture?

>>60335855
I think it should be fine. intel processors are efficient the mobo doesn't draw that much power. 520 watts is more than enough

>>60336224
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v6DWd6
no

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RyggxY
this is better

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>>60336218
2D better for you fucking weeaboo?

>>60336203
Boot it with a single stick of RAM and then enable XMP in the bios. Common mistake.

>>60336244
so long as it isnt disgusting niggers

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Do I need to uninstall all my AMD Drivers/Softwares first if I'm switching to an Nvidia card?

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>>60336253
Whatever floats your white ass boat. Now answer my question pls.

>>60336266
uninstall yourself from life

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>>60336278
Rude

>>60336266
Probably not, but I wouldn't recommend have two conflicting drivers installed at the same time. It's not like uninstalling the AMD driver is going to cause you any hastle either, just play it safe.

>>60336243
I'm trying to keep it as close to 500 at possible because the build is for a grade school off in the sticks. They aren't exactly rolling in cash and they already blew through the grant for the sandbox in the first place.

the only reason I'm even having to do a build is because the computer the tech departmet died after a power surge and I haven't figured out what component god fucked over the most.

>>60336266
nope, you can keep them installed even while your using your nVidia card

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>>60336229
Yes it is plugged in and on.
>>60336233
I can attach one.
>>60336245
Tried it. Didn't work.

>>60336315
Is the motherboard receiving ANY power i.e on-board LEDs turning on ect?

>>60336362
No, nothing is turning on. I can feel slight heat from the PSU though so I can only assume power is getting sent to the PSU.

>>60336376
WhaT did you expect buying second rate shit like amd

>>60336397
Shut up Intelshill, I want some help, not jewing.

>>60336376
If your motherboard isn't receiving power then you may want to check your ATX cable, most modern Mobos have some type of visual indicator to let you know that they're receiving power. What model do you have?

>>60336464
Asrock AB350 Pro4

>>60335268
any ideas?

>>60331376
This is bait.

>>60336482
Don't adjust the fan. Update bios

>>60335575
Is that motherboard considerably better?
It's hard to tell when a mobo is better or not desu

>>60331778
SSDs can now be 256 GB to an entire terabyte and still be priced reasonably now.

The game has changed since 2013 when they were a gaymur only item and had only 60 GB on them

>>60332242
I bet a place like imgur could lap this up with the right format. Honestly worth a shot.

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>>60336176
Help pls

>>60336473
Gonna sound retarded and I'm sure you've already done it but make sure all your PSU cables are clicked on, especially if you have a modular PSU, also what video card are you using and what is the wattage of your PSU?

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>>60336520
2013?
I have had my 240gb SSD since early 2011

albeit it was $480 back then

>>60336584
Will check for my cables, CPU and mobo cables are already plugged directly into the PSU though (its a semi-modular). I have a RX 580 4GB MSI Gaming X and the wattage of my GPU is 550W.

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>>60336595
>albeit it was 480 dollars back then
My point.

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I'm the "Dwarf Fortress build" guy.

I've finalized a ryzen CPU build. Final price is 3k. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RpDHjc

As I understand it, it will be some time before BIOS updates churn out so I can use even faster RAM effectively, so should I just cought up and buy 4133 and expect to be able to use that speed properly in time or should I just call it at 3600 MHz?

This is my first actual self-built PC, so I am open to suggestions from more experienced builders.

>>60336624
Remove your video card/RAM and everything but the PSU and Mobo, if your power it on and you're still getting no beeps/lights then it may just be that your mobo is DOA.

>>60336624
Also, your case/fans aren't spinning either I assume?

>>60336739
Mobo doesn't take that ram, has to be 3400,3000, or 3600 for the speed ram you want.
Are the dual ssd's for dual booting?
You probably won't need the liquid cooling for your build unless you plan on serious OC'ing. How do you plan on using the server?
would reccommend this monitor instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/D8KhP6/benq-monitor-xl2730z
benq monitors have better picture imo

>>60336739
What on earth are your intentions with that PC?

16GB ram is well enough, anything faster than 3200mhz is very cost ineffective, you can most likely overclock them a bit anyway.

1800x isn't really worth it, getting 100-200mhz out of it extra isn't worth the premium cost. 1700 is a better pick, especially since there may not really be any overclock difference.

Absolutely no reason to have 2 SSDs, just keep one.
The HDD seems fishy, probably enterprise HDD... Those are extremely loud, like the loudness of 10 year old HDDs. I'm assuming it's only for storage, like movies, due to it's size. If that's the case, you can use a 5400rpm instead.

Liquid cooling is a bit overkill too, imo there's no point in using it unless you're doing sff (small form factor). It's louder as well, and more prone to failure. Especially the one you picked, as it's a single fan radiator, so the cooling performance really isn't a premium with it.
Just get a good cooler, like bequiet dark rock 3, or something similar.

If you don't think you need a better graphics card than GTX 1060, then I'd suggest you go with RX 580 instead, an 8gb version. If you want something beefier, then you might want to wait for VEGA (avoid the "deep learning" variants), due to freesync being so much cheaper.

Now that you've saved so much money elsewhere on your build... You can buy a 1440p 144hz freesync monitor. I'm not too knowledgable about monitors, but I think you want to avoid IPS panels. They have good viewing angles, and good colors, but they're prone to having issues, like "bleeding", and "ghosting".

>>60336805
>>60336787
Ok I figured out the issue. Its my CPU input. Everything else works just fine but when I put in my CPU power cord it alll powers down. What should I do?

>>60336315
>ugly stock cooler
Do you even rgb?

Any way, what happened to the wraith max cooler that AMD was shilling?

>>60336937
Only for the R7s.

>>60336937
Maybe it'll be for the 16 core CPU.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4

buying ram tomorrow, what should I get that would pair well this this motherboard?

Do SSD read/write speeds make a noticeable difference or should I focus on price and storage size?

>>60336873
So you're getting power/fans spinning ect u till you plug in your CPU power cable? Sounds like MOBO/PSU is fine and I reckon your cables are fine. Issue is with the CPU itself most likely. Have you inserted it correctly? Take it out and check if any of the pins have bent and carefully re-insert it.

>>60336965
Is it that difficult to go to asrock site and check the supported ram by yourself?

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>>60336739
>750D
My nigga. But adding a DVD drive is going to make it look uggos.

>>60337093
>Implying full tower isn't already super ugly

>2k17
>Buying a full tower/mid tower
We really need to get this stuff going, people really need to get with the times.

>>60337093
>2017
>Disc drive

Why?

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>>60336576
>>60336176
Anyone?

>>60336987
I took the CPU out, put it back in, put the heatsink back on. Now it won't start up again. All I have plugged in is the mobo power cord.

>>60337121
>he can't fit eatx mobo's in his case for a dual cpu naples build
pleb, are you even trying?

>>60337149
>any year
>no method of watching dvd's or burning data on dvd's/mdisc's for safe keeping.

>>60337201
bruh, naples builds are supposed to be in a rack "case".

>>60336946
I keep hearing they will be coming, but nothing so far.
>>60336953
Those are for their server boards no? Which will probably not come with it either.

>>60332480
>DO NOT BUY ACER

I learned that a long time ago when I bought one of their laptops.. damn buggy thing didn't even last a year.

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>>60336846
>Mobo doesn't take that ram, has to be 3400,3000, or 3600 for the speed ram you want.

The site claims it's compatible. From what I understand you can use higher frequency ram but it will just downclock to a supported frequency.

>Are the dual ssd's for dual booting?
I plan to run them at RAID 0 with a backup Operating system and files on the main HDD.

>You probably won't need the liquid cooling for your build unless you plan on serious OC'ing. How do you plan on using the server?

I simply want the components to last as long as possible and yes I do OC the GPU.

>What on earth are your intentions with that PC?

>>60336856

>16GB ram is well enough, anything faster than 3200mhz is very cost ineffective, you can most likely overclock them a bit anyway.

My intention is to use RAMdisks for many applications. Which is why full 64 GB is necessary.

>1800x isn't really worth it, getting 100-200mhz out of it extra isn't worth the premium cost. 1700 is a better pick, especially since there may not really be any overclock difference.

I'm just going to stick with it.

>Absolutely no reason to have 2 SSDs, just keep one.

Explained.

>HDD

Alright, I switched to a 8 TB 5200 RPM

>Liquid cooling

AFAIK the case comes with an entire fan system +filters so more fans would be rather redundant though the stock ones are probably lower quality.

Please recommend a better liquid cooling choice.

>Graphics card GTX 1060 to RX 580

I'll switch it for now but can you justify this better? Why would I switch exactly?


>>60337093
I care little for aesthetics regarding the desktop itself.

>>60337243
ayy, then what are those 16 core cpu's that AMD is always cockteasing?

>>60337256
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JgKrCy

Forgot to include link to changed build.

>>60336176
You obviously need a new mobo dumb faggot.

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Ah yes, I can already feel the regret setting in.

>>60337195
What was the setup that previously showed signs of power? Could you describe which components were plugged in and what signs you were getting, like fans spinning briefly/beeps/lights ect?

>>60337201
>no method of watching dvd's or burning data on dvd's/mdisc's for safe keeping.
>le ebic hacker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3KPSyNxnL8

>>60337256
RX 580 gives you access to freesync, which is much cheaper than gsync.
I think it also has more cuda cores, but not sure, which should give you an edge in 3d rendering, afaik.

>>60337267
Those are naples, pretty sure they're server CPUs.

>>60337195
you're using standoffs right? almost sounds like electrostatic discharge issue

>>60337309
I only knew the PSU had power flowing because it felt hot. I unplugged everything except the power button, mobo power, and GPU power cables which made it spring to life. Once that happened, the GPU's fans and lights started spinning, as did the CPU cooler. I plugged in the hd audio and case fans after that before plugging in the CPU power cable, which broke it again. I then re-put in the CPU and cooler and tried booting it up again, but to no avail. I unplugged everything except the mobo power and cpu fan and it still won't turn on. Should I just send the mobo back at this point? It seems like the rest of the build works just fine.

>>60337384
Yeah I have screws in the standoffs. Would it be an issue of a screw being under the mobo? I did hear static discharge when I attempted to plug in the CPU power cable.

>>60337425
might as well reassemble and test with another PSU if you can.

>>60337278
Can you elaborate?

>>60331360
Is this a good build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mtCYBP

Is the ssd compatible with the motherboard?

>>60337443
>test with another PSU if you can
I don't have another PSU laying around.

>paying almost 200 bucks for ram
i hate canada and i hate ram prices

>>60337406
Not sure if I'm just misreading but I'd highly advise you not to plug in/remove components while the system is still powered on. If you can't replicate the previous situation were you were getting results then it's probably the mobo, if you CAN get fans spinning again then the mobo is receiving power and it's probably the CPU. Besides the Mobo being dead RAM/CPU are two of the biggest culprits when you can't even get to the boot stage.

>>60337256
>I'm just going to stick with it.
good. and don't let shills tell you otherwise. You have a higher chance of winning the silicon lottery with the 1800x and xfr does a pretty good job on it's own.

>580
might as well WAIT(tm) for vega. Choose nvidia card's for CUDA, or AMD cards for freesync.

>uggo
I peeled the metal veneer off the plastic slot over and I plan to stick it on the dvd slot tray with doubled sided tape.

>>60337425
Are you posting and reaching the bios screen? Have you tried to clear Cmos? Have you plugged in your case speaker and heard the beep code?

>>60337551
I didn't do it while it was on. Sounds like I should just get a replacement mobo in that case. Should I just replace my CPU while I'm at it?
>>60337552
I haven't reached the bios once.

>>60337602
clear cmos or take the button cell out and plug it back it in.

>>60337551
Even if LEDs show, a mobo can be dead.
I forgot to discharge the capcitors when I was cleaning, and it lodged watery compressed air onto the mobo. Which killed the mobo... But it would still show leds.

>>60337481
If you're building a gaming PC the first thing you want to do is not buy RAM that costs more than other components. Seriously, fuck that high end Ryzen CPU, fuck the RAM, buy a I5 with good single core performance and pump more money into a better GPU. You can probably cut corners with the mobo too.

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>>60337477
>>60337278
Is he trolling?

>>60337602
pug in your case speaker, and listen to the beep code. refer to your mobo manual for beep code errors.

http://asrock.pc.cdn.bitgravity.com/Manual/AB350%20Pro4.pdf

>>60331360
Bitchin'

>>60337629
I was just trying to determine if it was receiving power period, anon initially said that nothing was showing signs of working so I wanted to know if his PSU was fucked.

I bought a Datotek Dimm Ddr3 Pc1333 8gb ram stick a while back and got it working with my Asus M5A97 LE R2.0. Recently it stopped recognizing it altogether, what do?

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what do you guys think of my build? i want something cheap but also reliable

main use is overwatch and bf1 and maybe some light video editing


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yGRWd6

also im this guy>>60332127

>>60337602
Absolutely take of advantage of your warranties, you aren't going to be doing shit with your CPU/Mobo out of the picture so send them both back at the same time if you don't diagnose the problem tonight.

>>60337718
>case speaker
I don't have one I think. I'm using the Eclipse P400.
>>60337769
Yeah I think I've given up on fixing the problem. The computer won't even boot. I might just get a replacement for the PSU while I'm at it, since that might be causing problems too. Get a fresh build going because the rest of my parts functioned fine honestly.

So I'm going to get a replacement request going for my CPU, mobo, and PSU. How does that sound?

>>60337761
Pretty standard, I don't see any problems besides you being a poor mofo.

>>60337529
Feels bad to be a leaf.

>>60337811
Sounds good but you may want to do what
>>60337718
suggested first, it won't take long and may worth double checking.

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>>60337813
i have to save monye for my other autistic building obsession

>>60337848
Which one gets you the least amount of pussy?

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>>60337761
>no dvd drive
>case can't support dvd drive
>case has no speaker for beep code diagnostics
>1600 non x version
>drip drip drip cooler

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>>60337856
;_;

>Hey guys check out my new gaming rig with a 310 dollar Ryzen CPU
Why do people do this?

>>60337842
I have no idea how to do that, all it says in the mobo manual is that I need to plug in a buzzer and select the option to have a boot beep from the bios.

>>60337877
What's that chambered for?

>>60337848
>Uggo rail
>cut in half foregrip
>flip down iron sights but no scope
>non folding stock
>no carry handle
>surefire
>no pressure switch for torch
3/10 have someone else build a rifle for you

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>>60337876
>>case has no speaker for beep code diagnostics

i thought that was on the mother board?

>no dvd drive
>case can't support dvd drive

ill us a usb one if i need it that bad

>drip drip drip cooler

is that one pron to leaking?

>>1600 non x version
should i get the x version?

>>60337963
223/556

>>60337967
come back when you know what you're talking about

>>60337919
http://www.asrock.com/support/faq.asp?id=286

>>60337986
>should i get the x version?
yes
>is that one pron to leaking?
I dunno but modern air coolers are now on par with water coolers so there's no point imo

>>60337919
a varmint round

>ar15 platform
Not even once.

>>60338059
>>60337986
You may want to add that ryzen isn't really thermally limited.

>>60331430
$220 is too much money to spend on a GPU that'll be bottlenecked by the G4560.

Even a 1060 3GB or 570 4GB will be bottlenecked by it in some games.
And get dual channel.

And yes, I'd get a big SSD now.

>>60331468
The 1050Ti will be better on older games, generally. The RX560 should be better on games from the past 2 years.
But I'm not entirely sure. Look at benchmarks.

>>60329670
GOOD question.
If you're desperate, you can get a magnifying glass and follow the wires.

hey guys so i built my pc two days ago and everything turned out fine except the case fans. They wont turn on. i plugged them in to the system fan pin on the mobo and they still wont turn on

>>60338059
Well I got no sound at all so no idea what that means.

>>60338189
>>60338189
>>60338189

>>60338158
The point is that you don't want to buy a budget comp, that has to be completely changed out for every upgrade.

>>60337761
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yGRWd6
>H100i.
>1050Ti
>overpriced PSU with too high of wattage.
meh.. it seems like you're on a budget and getting really suboptimal parts.
It's better than your last one but could use a lot of improvement.
Maybe look through the thread and see if someone posted a better R5 1600 build in your budget.

>>60338211
I did figure maybe that was the case, and it is a good strategy.
But... Imo the better way to do that would be to get the 1500X+RX460 then upgrade to a better GPU later.
You're limited to upgrading to a 6700k, 7700, or 7700 with that build. And even then you'll be limited to 2400MHz RAM since you need Z270 for faster RAM.

what's a good cooler that:
>doesn't cost a fortune (so under $100, preferably under $60)
>cools well enough to OC an i5 2500k
>fits both 1155 and AM4 so I can use it on a future build

currently I have a shitty h50, an old hyper 212 with no brackets left, and nothing else

>>60338254
Some anon wanted suggestions for a $600 build, so I tried to keep in budget, really only g4560 could keep in budget.

Might work out if you skip out on SSD, and get a ~500gb 7200rpm HDD instead, to get extra money for a 1400/1500x... Probably a better idea.

>>60338264
>fits both 1155 and AM4
That's a tough one. Look for a 1155 cooler that has an adapter for AM4. If coolermaster sells an AM4 adapter for the 212 EVO then get that

Does compatibility list mean anything in regard to ssd m.2 compatibility. I want to get 500gb m.2 but it only shows the 250gb version of that m.2 ssd.

>>60338279
1500X+RX460 would cost the same or less, actually.

$140 cheaper GPU. $100 more expensive CPU. ~$15 more expensive board and RAM.

>>60338326
RAM can stay the same, I think Ballistix sport LT has pretty good compatability with most boards, and it's DR.
DR appears to be very good for ryzen, so you can "overclock" it to 2993 or 3200mhz, and you have a pretty good set up. Though, you'd have to wait until you get another stick for that.

But yeah, 1500x + RX 460 is probably the better way to go.

>>60338371
Eh actually, better wait for RX 560, RX 460 is a bit too weak. I'd say the minimum is 1050 ti, but RX 460 can't keep up with it.

>>60338264
check out the cryorig h5 ultimate or thermalright true spirit 140 direct

>Get my ryzen PC close to finish.
>Decide to make sure it will post.
>It won't.
>Can't figure out why.
>Eventually realize its likely a ram issue.
Well, I ordered the Flare X ram since it was the stuff Newegg would have bundled with the CPU and Mobo. Here's hoping round 2 will work out for me.

My CPU casing has white spots growing in it. Looks like mold. Is it time to get a new casing? Or just reuse one?

Also what is a good step up from the i5 4600? I finally have a real job and can afford to buy real stuff now.